[ THEME MUSIC ] >> ON THIS WEEK'S EDITION OF "NEW YORK NOW," NEW YORK ENTERS A NEW EMERGENCY.

THIS TIME OVER GUN CRIME.

WE'LL HAVE DETAILS.

THEN KAREN DEWITT FROM NEW YORK STATE PUBLIC RADIO AND JON CAMPBELL FROM THE "USA TODAY" NETWORK ARE HERE WITH MORE ON THE NEWS OF THE WEEK.

PLUS, ANDREW GIULIANI JOINS US TO DISCUSS HIS RUN FOR THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR GOVERNOR AND WHY HE'S NOT GIVING UP.

AND LATER, ADULT VICTIMS OF SEX CRIMES SAY STATE LAWMAKERS DROPPED THE BALL ON LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HELP THEM.

DARRELL CAMP HAS THAT STORY.

I'M DAN CLARK AND THIS IS "NEW YORK NOW."

[ THEME MUSIC ] >>> WELCOME TO THIS WEEK'S EDITION OF "NEW YORK NOW," I'M DAN CLARK.

CRIME IS THE THEME OF THE WEEK IN NEW YORK.

SOMETHING THAT MANY NEW YORKERS ARE NOW EXPERIENCING FIRSTHAND.

GUN CRIME, IN PARTICULAR, HAS BECOME A MAJOR ISSUE IN MANY OF THE STATE'S URBAN AREAS.

ACCORDING TO STATE DATA, THERE WERE ABOUT 3,200 MORE VIOLENT CRIMES WITH A GUN LAST YEAR COMPARED TO 2019 IN NEW YORK.

THAT'S A JUMP OF 40%.

AND WE KNOW THAT SHOOTINGS ARE STILL ON THE RISE HERE.

IN NEW YORK CITY ALONE, THE NUMBER OF SHOOTINGS WERE UP BY MORE THAN 50% THROUGH AT LEAST MARCH COMPARED TO LAST YEAR AND CITIES LIKE ALBANY AND ROCHESTER ARE EXPERIENCING THEIR OWN PROBLEMS WITH GUN VIOLENCE.

BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM.

NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO FIX IT AND THERE'S A LOT OF DISAGREEMENT OVER STRATEGY.

GOVERNOR CUOMO THIS WEEK UNVEILED HIS OWN PLAN TO CURB GUN CRIME IN NEW YORK WITH THE STATE LAW COMMITTING $138 MILLION TO THE EFFORT.

THAT MONEY WILL BE USED ON INTERVENTION SERVICES, JOBS PROGRAMS, OUTREACH AND MORE, AND CUOMO ALSO DECLARED GUN VIOLENCE AS A DISASTER EMERGENCY IN NEW YORK, GIVING HIM MORE POWER TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.

>> TIME IS NOT ON OUR SIDE.

BEGIN BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE PROBLEM.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS?

IT IS A STATEWIDE PROBLEM AND IT IS AN EMERGENCY.

AND I WANT THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE TO UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I WANT THEM TO RESPOND TO THE EMERGENCY FOR THE WAY IT IS.

>> BUT NOT EVERYONE'S HAPPY WITH CUOMO'S STRATEGY TO CURB GUN VIOLENCE AND NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL HE WILL TISHA JAMES ALSO HAD A PRETTY BIG WEEK.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT AND MORE WITH OUR PANEL THIS WEEK.

JON CAMPBELL IS FROM THE "USA TODAY" NETWORK AND KAREN DEWITT IS WITH NEW YORK STATE PUBLIC RADIO.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE >> SURE THING.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> LET'S TALK FIRST ABOUT CUOMO'S GUN PLAN.

EITHER OF YOU.

JON, WHAT DOES THIS GIVE THE GOVERNOR POWER TO DO?

BECAUSE IT'S A NEW EMERGENCY IN THE STATE.

WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL EMERGENCIES IN THE STATE.

NOW WE'RE AT THREE.

>> HE DOESN'T HAVE QUITE AS MUCH LATITUDE AS HE DID DURING THE COVID EMERGENCY WHICH HE GOT ADDITIONAL POWER FROM THE LEGISLATURE THROUGH.

ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IT LETS HIM DO IS MOVE MONEY A LITTLE EASIER.

IT ALLOWS HIM TO SET UP THE OFFICE OF GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S WHAT HE ANNOUNCED.

HE SAID HE'S GOING TO HAVE-- DECLARE HOT SPOTS WHERE HE CAN MORE EASILY SEND RESOURCES, WHETHER THAT'S STATE POLICE RESOURCES OR SOME POTS OF MONEY AND THEN HE HAS AN ABILITY TO MOVE, AND SO IT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE THING LARGELY THAT ALLOWS HIM A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY.

>> THAT'S WHY IT'S PUZZLING.

BECAUSE NONE OF THIS NEEDS AN EMERGENCY ORDER.

HE CAN DO ALL OF THIS.

THE $138 MILLION THAT HE WANTS TO SEND TO PROGRAMS WAS ALREADY IN THE STATE BUDGET.

>> RIGHT.

THIS IS NOT NEW MONEY.

>> ALL HE'S DOING IS SUSPENDING THE PROCUREMENT LAWS AND OVERSIGHT TO MAKE SURE THE MONEY GOES TO THE RIGHT PLACES AND IS SPENT PROPERLY.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

IS IT THAT THE MONEY CAN GO FASTER BECAUSE IT HAS LESS REVIEW BY THE COMPTROLLER?

>> THE COMPTROLLER WILL BE SHUT OUT OF IT.

THERE'S NO REVIEW TO IT.

ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AT IT AT FACE VALUE, OBVIOUSLY, HE WANTS TO CALL ATTENTION TO AN ISSUE THE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.

HE FEELS LIKE POLITICALLY HE HAD A LOT, YOU KNOW, SUCCESS, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A TERRIBLE TIME DURING COVID.

HE WAS VERY POPULAR WHEN WE HAD A STATE OF EMERGENCY.

EVERYBODY KIND OF HAD TO LISTEN TO HIM.

IS SCHOOL GOING TO BE OPEN TODAY?

DO I GO TO WORK?

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PART OF IT IS WANTING TO REGAIN SOME OF THAT LOSS BECAUSE NOW MOST NEW YORKERS DON'T WANT HIM TO RUN FOR ANOTHER TERM.

>> RIGHT.

>> HE'S EMBROILED IN A LOT OF SCANDALS AND HE'S TRYING TO GET ON TOP OF THE NARRATIVE HERE FOR A LEGITIMATE ISSUE BUT OF COURSE, BEING ANDREW CUOMO, THERE'S ALSO POLITICAL CONCERNS AS WELL.

>> YEAH.

>> I THINK HE COULD HAVE EASILY SAID I'M TAKING SEVEN STEPS AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE TODAY.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO GET THIS UNDER CONTROL, BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE SPECIAL POWERS TO DO IT.

>> IT'S-- YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF EMERGENCY IS SOMETHING THAT KIND OF STOPS YOU IN YOUR TRACKS.

>> UH-HUH.

>> AND IT'S-- IT'S-- THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT WAS PART OF THE CALCULATION.

YOU KNOW, IN REALITY, IT'S MUCH MORE BUREAUCRATIC.

>> RIGHT.

>> IT DOESN'T-- IT'S NOT A STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LIKE THAT A COUNTY LEVEL CAN DO WHERE YOU CAN'T TRAVEL UNNECESSARILY, THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> RIGHT.

>> IT'S MORE BUREAUCRATIC THAN THAT, BUT IT HAS A REALLY JARRING NAME THAT GETS PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.

>> I'LL TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS HE'S NOT DOING IS REVISITING A NUMBER OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORMS AND CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS UNDER THE DEMOCRATS IN THE LEGISLATURE.

>> GOOD POINT.

>> INCLUDING THE BAIL REFORM, YOU KNOW, CHANGES TO PAROLE, SO-CALLED RAISE THE AGE, TREATING 16 AND 17-YEAR-OLDS NOT AS ADULTS IN THE PRISON SYSTEM BUT AS JUVENILES, WHICH REPUBLICANS AND DISTRICT ATTORNEYS SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS MIGHT BE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

WELL, REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.

YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT PERHAPS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS PART OF THIS.

THAT WAS NOT MENTION AT ALL.

>> RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM ANDREW GIULIANI IN A FEW MINUTES.

HE MAKES THAT CASE AS WELL.

REPEALING BAIL REFORM WOULD LOWER THE CRIME RATE.

THAT'S A TOUGH TOPIC, TOO.

I TALKED TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS.

THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY IMPERICAL RESEARCH OR DATA ON WHETHER BAIL REFORM OR DISCOVERY REFORM HAS CAUSED THE CRIME SPIKE.

>> RIGHT, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO STOP IT FROM BECOMING A MAJOR ISSUE.

YOU'VE GOT EVERY STATE LAWMAKER UP FOR RE-ELECTION NEXT YEAR.

EXCUSE ME.

EVERY STATE OFFICE-- STATEWIDE OFFICEHOLDER UP FOR RE-ELECTION NEXT YEAR INCLUDING THE GOVERNOR.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO MAKE IT A CENTRAL THEME.

ALSO WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN CRIME AND A RISE IN CRIME EVEN IF IT'S ONLY A PERCEIVED RISE IN CRIME BECOME A MAJOR ISSUE IN THE NEW YORK CITY'S MAYOR RACE.

IT HELPED PROPEL ERIC ADAMS TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

>> YEAH.

>> CRIME, RIGHT NOW, IS A MAJOR POLITICAL ISSUE AND I HAVE LITTLE DOUBT THAT IT WILL BE NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

>> THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE ACTUALLY.

SO ATTORNEY GENERAL TISH JAMES WAS IN SYRACUSE THIS WEEK.

SHE ALSO HAD A GIANT OPIOID SETTLEMENT.

>> RIGHT.

>> SHE WAS IN SYRACUSE THIS WEEK.

SHE WAS IN ALBANY A FEW WEEKS AGO FOR A SIMILAR EVENT WHERE SHE WAS ANNOUNCING TAKEDOWNS OF DRUG RINGS AND INDICTMENTS OF LIKE TENS OF PEOPLE.

I THINK IT WAS MORE THAN 80 PEOPLE IN SYRACUSE OR MORE THAN 70.

IT MADE ME WONDER IF SHE IS TRYING TO DO THESE EVENTS BECAUSE SHE KNOWS POLITICALLY CRIME IS POPULAR.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ALL POLITICS.

I THINK HER OFFICE IS WORKING VERY HARD ON THIS.

I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR HER TO POSITION HERSELF FOR A RUN FOR GOVERNOR NEXT YEAR.

>> WHETHER OR NOT, IT'S FITTING INTO THE TIMES.

SHE'S DOING TANGIBLE THINGS WORKING WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, HAULING PEOPLE OFF WHO MAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THESE SHOOTINGS.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S REALLY JUST A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN EACH COMMUNITY WHO ARE COMMITTING THESE CRIMES.

IT'S NOT LIKE EVERYBODY'S GONE WILD.

IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON CERTAIN PEOPLE FOR THIS THAT ARE ACTUAL CRIMINALS AND NOT PUNISH PEOPLE WHO AREN'T.

YEAH.

IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING SHE'S DOING.

SHE'S GETTING ATTENTION FOR.

COULD THAT POSITION HER FOR A RUN FOR GOVERNOR?

AS JON JUST SAID, IT WORKED FOR ERIC ADAMS.

YOU KNOW, ERIC ADAMS ALSO HAD THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

HE HAS CREDIBILITY BECAUSE HE WAS AN EX-COP.

HE CAN TALK ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT MORE AND IN THE SAME WAY THAT I THINK SHE CAN DO THAT, TOO.

I'M ATTORNEY GENERAL.

I'M THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN WHO WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL.

SHE CAN WALK THAT LINE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

BUT YEAH.

I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE OVER A YEAR UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION.

IF CRIME REMAINS AN ISSUE, SHE IS POSITIONING HERSELF VERY WELL FOR THAT.

>> I THINK SO, TOO.

>> ALSO, THESE DRUG BUSTS THAT THEY'RE DOING VERY PUBLICLY AND THEY'RE HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE BIG PRESS CONFERENCES WITH THE GUNS LAID OUT AT THE TABLE.

>> RIGHT.

>> IT IS A TACTIC THAT WE'VE SEEN A-- FOR A LONG TIME FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A WAY TO SEND A MESSAGE TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO MAY BE INVOLVED IN THE DRUG TRADE.

THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE SEEN WITH ANDREW CUOMO, AS WE'VE SEEN WITH ELIOT SPITZER, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE CAN BE USED AS A PLATFORM TO RUN FOR HIGHER OFFICE AND IN LARGE PART BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU'RE DOING THE DRUG BUSTS.

YOU'RE DOING THE OPIOID SETTLEMENTS WITH THE SACKLER FAMILY AND PURDUE PHARMA THAT IS $4.5 BILLION.

IT'S VERY EASY TO LOOK LIKE THE WHITE KNIGHT COMING IN TO SAVE THE DAY.

>> EXACTLY.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN STATE GOVERNMENT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN THE SUBWAYS WHICH ARE FILLING WITH THE WATER THIS WEEK AND IT'S ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA.

YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE YOUR ISSUES.

>> YEAH.

LISTEN, THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY CALL THE AG'S OFFICE ASPIRING GOVERNOR.

THERE'S A REASON.

(LAUGHTER) >> ANDREW CUOMO DID THE SAME THING.

HE WAS AG BEFORE HE BECAME GOVERNOR.

I AM WONDERING WHAT HER STRATEGY IS.

WE DON'T KNOW.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

AS FAR AS GUN CRIME GOES, AND I SAID THIS EARLIER IN THE SHOW, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS.

YOU CAN CHOOSE FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND HOPEFULLY ONE WORKS.

I THINK CERTAINLY ALL OF US HOPE THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN FOR CURBING GUN CRIME WORKS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT MORE THAN EVER NOW.

>> YEAH.

IT SEEM LIKE THEY NEED TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING.

INCLUDING SOME OF THE LAWS THEY PASSED.

>> YEAH.

>> POLITICS ASIDE, THERE'S NO HARM IN HE TAKING A LOOK.

>> RIGHT.

WE'LL SEE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DOES.

THEY MAY COME BACK IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

WE DON'T KNOW.

>> CUOMO SAID HE DIDN'T 'EM.

>> RIGHT.

WHO NEEDS 'EM.

WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.

KAREN DEWITT FROM NEW YORK STATE PUBLIC RADIO AND JON CAMPBELL FROM "USA TODAY" NETWORK.

THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>>> LAST WEEK, WE TOLD YOU HOW REPUBLICANS PLANNED TO CAMPAIGN IN NEXT YEAR'S ELECTIONS AND THE BIG RACE TO WATCH IS THE RACE FOR GOVERNOR.

IF GOVERNOR CUOMO IS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE HE COULD BE VULNERABLE AFTER A WAVE OF SCANDALS ROCKED HIS POLITICAL FUTURE THIS YEAR.

AND THAT'S WHAT REPUBLICANS ARE COUNTING ON HEADING INTO THE RACE.

BUT FIRST, THEY'LL HAVE TO PICK A NOMINEE AND LAST WEEK, REPUBLICAN COUNTY CHAIRS SAID THEY PREFER THAT NOMINEE BE CONGRESSMAN LEE ZELDIN.

BUT OTHER REPUBLICANS SEEKING THE NOMINATION ARE NOT GIVING UP.

SAYING THEY'LL TAKE THE RACE TO A PRIMARY NEXT JUNE.

THAT INCLUDES ANDREW GIULIANI, A FORMER ADVISOR TO DONALD TRUMP IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE SON OF FORMER NEW YORK CITY MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI.

I SPOKE WITH HIM THIS WEEK ABOUT HIS CAMPAIGN AND HIS STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD.

[ THEME MUSIC ] ANDREW GIULIANI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

>> YEAH.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING US.

IT'S A GREAT PLEASURE TO BE ON WITH YOU.

>> OF COURSE.

SO YOU WERE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE ON LONG ISLAND.

TELL ME HOW IT'S GOING.

HOW IS THE CAMPAIGN GOING?

YOU JUST ANNOUNCED RECENTLY A FEW WEEKS BACK-- NOT TOO RECENT, BUT HOW HAS IT GONE SO FAR?

>> IT'S BEEN GOING REALLY, REALLY WELL.

IT'S BEEN-- I THINK WE'RE ON DAY 50, DAY 51, AND WE'VE BEEN TO ALL 62 COUNTIES AND WE DID THAT WITHIN THE FIRST MONTHS.

I PROMISED NEW YORKERS THAT WE WOULD GO BACK TO ALL 62 COUNTIES AGAIN BY LABOR DAY.

THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO RUN THE CAMPAIGN FOR THE NEXT 16 MONTHS.

WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO ALL AROUND NEW YORK STATE.

I ALWAYS LOOK AT IT THIS WAY.

IF I AM GOING TO ASK NEW YORKERS TO GO OUT THERE AND VOTE FOR ME TO GET THEIR FRIENDS TO GO OUT AND VOTE FOR ME, I NEED TO SHOW THEM THE RESPECT OF COMING TO THEIR HOMETOWN, TO THEIR HOME COUNTY AND TALKING ABOUT ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT WITH THEM.

THAT'S HOW WE PLAN TO RUN THE NEXT 16 MONTHS.

THAT'S HOW I PLAN TO GOVERN THIS GREAT STATE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT.

LAST WEEK, REPUBLICAN LEADERS WERE IN ALBANY.

THEY TOOK A STRAW POLL AND MADE CONGRESSMAN LEE ZELDIN THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE.

IT'S A LONG WAYS AWAY FROM A PRIMARY, ABOUT 11 MONTHS.

WHAT'S YOUR STRATEGY LEADING UP TO THAT?

TO GET REPUBLICANS TO CHOOSE YOU AS A CANDIDATE?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I'LLL TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID, WE HEARD THE CONGRESSMAN HAD A POLL IN THE FIELD A FEW WEEKS AGO.

WE NEVER HEARD ANY NUMBERS BACK FROM IT.

IT TRIGGERED US AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO PUT A POLL OUT THERE TO SEE WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE.

WE AIDE DID A POLL OF THE COMMISSION OF 600 REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN NEW YORK STATE AND WE'RE WINNING BY 8 POINTS, BEATING THE CONGRESSMAN BY 8 POINTS.

SO THE TRUTH IS, THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT IS WE WANT 3 MILLION REGISTERED REPUBLICANS TO HAVE A VOICE OF WHO THEIR NOMINEE IS NOT JUST A FEW PEOPLE IN A BACK ROOM IN ALBANY.

I ONLY WISH THEY WOULD HAVE LIT A CIGAR UP SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN A SMOKE-FILLED BACK ROOM IN ALBANY; AND I THINK THE ONLY THING PEOPLE IN THE STATE HATE MORE THAN A BACK ROOM IS A SMOKE-FILLED BACK-ROOM DEAL IN ALBANY.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> YOU KNOW, IT'S A TRICKY SITUATION.

BECAUSE RUNNING IN THE PRIMARY, YOU HAVE TO APPEAL TO YOUR REPUBLICAN BASE, BUT IF YOU GET THE NOMINATION, YOU HAVE TO APPEAL TO BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE BECAUSE NEW YORK IS OBVIOUSLY A PREDOMINANTLY DEMOCRATIC STATE, 2:1 REPUBLICANS.

HOW DO YOU DO THAT GOING INTO THE GENERAL IF YOU ARE THE NOMINEE?

HOW DO YOU GET THAT CROSS-PARTY SUPPORT TO ELECT YOU OVER WHATEVER DEMOCRAT IS ON THE TICKET?

>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IS FOLLOWING THE DATA AND THE NUMBERS HERE.

THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ASSOCIATION HAS GREAT STATISTICS ON DEEP BLUE STATES AND WHETHER OR NOT-- WHETHER THEY RUN A PRIMARY OR DON'T RUN A PRIMARY.

WHENEVER WE RUN A PRIMARY, WE PERFORM FAR BETTER IN DEEP BLUE STATES WHETHER THEY RUN A PRIMARY OR DON'T RUN A PRIMARY.

THAT'S WHY FOR US, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT A PRIMARY TO BE HONEST.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE AN ANOINTED CANDIDATE OR HAVE AN ANOINTED CANDIDATE.

WE WANT TO SEE THAT PRIMARY.

WE WANT TO GET INTO THE BATTLE.

WE ULTIMATELY BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO HELP US ACTUALLY WIN NOT JUST THE NOMINATION BUT HELP US WIN THE GOVERNOR'S RACE IN-- ON NOVEMBER 8TH OF 2022.

YOU ASKED HOW ULTIMATELY WE WOULD CROSS OVER AND GET INDEPENDENT AND DEMOCRATIC SUPPORT.

WELL, SCHOOL CHOICE IS A MAJOR ISSUE THAT A LOT OF DEMOCRATS ARE FURIOUS ABOUT RIGHT THERE.

THE RISING STATISTICS IN CRIME, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT AND WE HAVE SOLUTIONS TO.

I KNOW THAT ANDREW CUOMO DOES NOT HAVE ANY SOLUTIONS TO THAT.

>> SO WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS TO THAT CRIME PROBLEM THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT?

I KNOW THAT BAIL REFORM IS A BIG ISSUE FOR REPUBLICANS >> YEP.

>> A FULL REPEAL OF THAT IS WHAT REPUBLICANS TEND TO LEAN TOWARD.

WHAT ELSE ARE YOU LOOKING FOR AS OPTIONS?

YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION ON NEW YORKERS' MINDS.

WITH THE CRIME SPIKE IN A LOT OF AREAS ACROSS THE STATE, HOW DO WE LOWER THAT BACK DOWN?

>> YOU MENTIONED IT RIGHT THERE.

BAIL REFORM IS A NUMBER ONE THING.

THIS IS AN ISSUE GOING ON ALL AROUND THE STATE.

NOT JUST IN NEW YORK CITY.

FOR US, REPEALING BAIL REFORM IS NUMBER ONE.

SECONDLY WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR OFFICERS' QUALIFIED IMMUNITY.

THEY NEED TO GO IN TO SOME OF THESE MORE CRIME-RIDDEN AREAS AND PROACTIVELY POLICE.

I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY OFFICERS NEED TO KNOW THAT IF THEY ARE GOING TO GO IN AND PROACTIVELY POLICE, AS LONG THEY'RE NOT WILLFULLY TRYING TO HURT THE PUBLIC, THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN TO MAKE OUR CITY STREETS AND OUR RURAL STREETS A SAFER PLACE, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A FRIEND IN THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION THAT WILL STAND UP WITH THEM.

EVEN IF THE POLITICAL WINDS ARE AGAINST THEM.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL HAVE WITH A GOVERNOR GIULIANI.

>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT THAT YOU MADE.

IF YOU ARE IN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT DEMOCRATS MAY STILL CONTROL THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE ONES THAT PUT FORTH THE BAIL REFORM AND HAVE DONE ALL OF THESE POLICE REFORMS.

HOW DO YOU SEE YOURSELF WORKING WITH DEMOCRATS IN THE LEGISLATURE IF THEY STILL HOLD THE MAJORITY?

DO YOU THINK YOU CAN HAVE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP THERE?

>> YEAH.

I THINK WE CAN HAVE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP BUT ULTIMATELY FOR US DID,-AND THIS IS THE SAME WAY WE'RE RUNNING OUR CANDIDACY, RIGHT?

WE'RE NOT ULTIMATELY TALKING TWO-PARTY BOSSES, TO LEADERS IN REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

WE'RE TALKING TO 2.9 MILLION REGISTERED REPUBLICANS AND WE'RE TALKING TO 19.5 MILLION NEW YORKERS.

I WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM.

ULTIMATELY, LET'S SAY WE HAVE AN ASSEMBLYMAN OR WOMAN OR STATE SENATOR WHO ARE PUSHING POLICIES THAT CONTINUE TO SEE OUR CRIMES SPIKE AND CONTINUES TO PUSH THESE POLICIES THAT REALLY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR CRIME-- IT'S OUT OF CONTROL, WHAT I'LL DO IS I WILL GO DIRECTLY TO THEIR AREAS AND I WILL ULTIMATELY TALK TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND EXPLAIN THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HELP KEEP YOUR CITY STREETS SAFER.

THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT.

THIS IS WHY ULTIMATELY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE REPEAL BAIL REFORM, WHY WE PROTECT THEIR OFFICERS' QUALIFIED IMMUNITY.

>> ANOTHER BIG ISSUE THAT I'M SURE YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL IS COST OF LIVING IN NEW YORK.

WE HAVE PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF NEW YORK.

OUR POPULATION IS RISING BUT NOT AT THE SAME PACE AS OTHER STATES, LIKE FLORIDA AND CALIFORNIA AND TEXAS.

SO IF YOU ARE ELECTED GOVERNOR, WHAT DO YOU SEE YOURSELF FOCUSING ON IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO STAY HERE?

TRYING TO LOWER THAT COST OF LIVING.

I KNOW TAXES ARE A BIG ISSUE, BUT FOR SOME PEOPLE TAX DECREASES MAY NOT BE ENOUGH.

>> WELL, I WOULD SAY TAXES AND I WOULD SAY PROPERTY TAXES AND I MEAN, LOOK AT ULTIMATELY GAS.

ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL IS THE COST OF GASOLINE OVER THE LAST SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS AND HOW MUCH THAT SPIKED.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF SOMEBODY FILLS UP THEIR TANK TWICE A WEEK, HE'S SAY AT 20 GALLONS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER $50, $60 A WEEK THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY IN ORDER TO LIVE IN NEW YORK THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM, LET'S SAY A FLORIDA OR A TEXAS RIGHT THERE.

SO THAT IS A MASSIVE ISSUE.

NOT NECESSARILY IN THE DOWNSTATE AREAS BUT IN THE NORTH COUNTRY, IN THE SOUTHERN TIER, IN WESTERN NEW YORK WHERE ULTIMATELY YOU DRIVE FURTHER TO WORK.

THAT'S A MASSIVE THING AND THAT IS CERTAINLY A COST OF LIVING ISSUE RIGHT THERE.

PROPERTY TAXES ALSO.

PROPERTY TAXES HAVE GONE OUT OF CONTROL IN NEW YORK.

I WANT TO SEE NOT JUST A REDUCTION IN INCOME TAXES BUT ALSO A REDUCTION IN PROPERTY TAXES.

>> RIGHT.

PROPERTY TAXES ARE LIKE THE NAIL ON THE HEAD FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF INCLUDED.

I'M LOOKING FOR A HOUSE RIGHT NOW AND THE ONLY THING PREVENTING ME FROM BUYING A HOUSE IN ALBANY COUNTY IS THAT THE PROPERTY TAXES ARE OUT OF CONTROL.

>> YEAH.

>> WE HAVE A CAP ON PROPERTY TAXES, BUT DO YOU SEE ANY SPECIFIC APPROACH TO LOWERING PROPERTY TAXES IN THE STATE?

THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT, OBVIOUSLY.

>> YEAH.

ULTIMATELY, IT HAS TO START RIGHT HERE FROM THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.

WE KNOW ULTIMATELY THERE WILL BE A FIGHT AMONG ASSEMBLY MEMBERS AND SOME STATE SENATORS.

BUT THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO BUILD UP A COALITION.

IT STARTS WITH THE GOVERNOR TO BE ABLE TO PUSH THAT THROUGH.

THAT'S WHERE REALLY THE ADVANTAGE OF THE GOVERNOR'S BULLY PULPIT EXISTS.

WE'RE SIEGE THE AMOUNT OF OVERREGULATION THAT EXISTS FOR BUSINESSES.

THAT'S WHY BUSINESSES ARE SETTING THEIR FOOTPRINTS IN THE SOUTH CAROLINAS, TENNESSEES, FLORIDAS OF THE WORLD AND NOT IN NEW YORK.

THAT'S LESS JOBS FOR NEW YORKERS.

THAT JUST IS A SNOWBALL EFFECT THAT ROLLS RIGHT DOWN 95.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TURN THOSE YOU ALLS AROUND AND CREATE A GREAT BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT AGAIN IN NEW YORK.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ANDREW GIULIANI, I AM SURE WE WILL SPEAK TO YOU MANY TIMES AGAIN BEFORE THE PRIMARY NEXT YEAR.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS WEEK.

I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING WITH YOU OVER THE NEXT 16 MONTHS UNTIL WE TAKE DOWN GOVERNOR ANDREW CUOMO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[ THEME MUSIC ] >>> WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO CONGRESSMAN ZELDIN FOR AN INTERVIEW BUT NOTHING IS SCHEDULED JUST YET.

IN THE MEANTIME, LAWMAKERS ARE FACING PRESSURE FROM ADVOCATES TO SUPPORT A RELATIVELY NEW BILL CALLED THE ADULT SURVIVOR'S ACT.

IT'S TARGETED AT HELPING ADULT VICTIMS OF SEX CRIMES.

DARRELL CAMP IS HERE WITH MORE.

DARRELL?

>> NEW YORK'S LEGISLATIVE SESSION ENDED IN MID-JUNE BUT MANY LAWMAKERS AND NEW YORKERS SAY THEIR WORK IS NOT DONE.

THAT'S BECAUSE A NUMBER OF BILLS THAT SEEMINGLY HAD THE SUPPORT TO PASS WEREN'T VOTED ON IN BOTH HOUSES OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

ONE OF THOSE MEASURES IN THAT CATEGORY IS THE ADULT SURVIVORS ACT THAT WOULD CREATE SOME LEGAL RECOURSE FOR TIME-BARRED CASES OF SEXUAL ABUSE.

TAKE A LOOK.

[ THEME MUSIC ] WHEN IT COMES TO SURVIVING SEXUAL TRAUMA, THE ROAD TO RECOVERY CAN BE A LIFELONG PROCESS.

MANY SURVIVORS FEEL SHAME OR EVEN GUILT WHEN COMING FORWARD.

EVEN IF THEY DO, IT'S OFTEN YEARS LATER WHEN A VICTIM'S LEGAL OPTIONS HAVE EXPIRED.

THAT'S WHY LAWMAKERS IN NEW YORK ARE PUSHING THE ADULT SURVIVORS ACT.

THE BILL WOULD CREATE A ONE-YEAR LOOKBACK WINDOW FOR ADULT SEXUAL ABUSE TO SUE THEIR ALLEGED ABUSERS.

IT'S MODELED AFTER THE CHILD VICTIMS ACT, A RECENT NEW YORK LAW THAT DID THE SAME THING FOR VICTIMS OF CHILD SEX ABUSE.

BUT THE LAW HIT A SNAG BEFORE LAWMAKERS LEFT ALBANY FOR THE YEAR IN JUNE.

THE STATE ASSEMBLY DIDN'T BRING IT UP FOR A VOTE, BUT THE STATE SENATE DID AND PASSED IT UNANIMOUSLY.

BRAD HOYLMAN, A DEMOCRAT FROM MANHATTAN, SAID THE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR THE BILL SHOWS HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS FOR LAWMAKERS IN THE CHAMBER.

>> NOW WE RECOGNIZE THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING ABLE TO SEEK JUSTICE PERSPECTIVELY SHOULD HAVE IT RETROSPECTIVELY.

WE'RE PROPOSING A ONE-YEAR LOOKBACK WINDOW WHERE ONE COULD REVIVE CLAIMS THAT HAVE SINCE BEEN TIME BARRED THROUGH THE ADULT SURVIVORS ACT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEW JERSEY HAS DONE RECENTLY AS WELL, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEW YORK DID FOR SURVIVORS OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE.

>> LAWMAKERS HAVEN'T SAID WHY THE ASSEMBLY DIDN'T CONSIDER THE BILL BEFORE THEY LEFT IN JUNE, AND THE BILL SUPPORTERS SAY THAT EVEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHY SOME OF THEIR COLLEAGUES DON'T WANT TO PASS IT.

ASSEMBLYMEMBER LINDA ROSENTHAL, A DEMOCRAT ALSO FROM MANHATTAN, WAS THE MAIN SPONSOR IN THE ASSEMBLY.

>> SOME OF IT IS MYSTERIOUS TO ME AS WELL.

I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK FOR -- TO THOSE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE SAID, WELL, IT WAS TOO SOON TO CONSIDER THAT.

THEY NEEDED MORE TIME AND WELL, THERE WILL BE MORE TIME, SIX MONTHS UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN IN JANUARY.

AND I THINK THEN PEOPLE WILL TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THE ADULT SURVIVORS ACT IS SO IMPORTANT.

>> IN THE FINAL DAYS OF THIS YEAR'S LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN JUNE, ADVOCATES FROM THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE GROUP, SAFE HORIZON, WERE AT THE CAPITOL PUSHING FOR LAWMAKERS TO PASS THE MEASURE.

AMONG THEM WAS A SURVIVOR NAMED MARISSA HOECHSTETTER WHO SAID SHE WAS ABUSED BY ROBERT HADDEN, A GYNECOLOGIST IN MANHATTAN.

>> I KNOW WOMEN IN MY CASE WHO HAVE BEEN ABUSED BY THE SAME MAN WHO CHOSE NOT TO HAVE MORE KIDS, WHO LOST THEIR SEXUAL INTIMACY, WHO LOST MARRIAGES.

I SENT A LETTER ON BEHALF OF OVER 200 VICTIMS OF ROBERT HADDEN, THE SAME PERSON WHO ASSAULTED ME, ASKING FOR THIS COMMON SENSE LEGISLATION, AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE LEGISLATION DOES?

IT GIVES US THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT.

WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO VALIDATE EVEN OUR CONCERNS.

WE'RE ASKING TO BE SEEN AND TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE COURTS FOR ALL OF US.

>> SENATOR HOYLMAN AGAIN.

>> ONE PHYSICIAN WHO SINCE HAD HIS LICENSE REVOKED, DR. ROBERT HADDEN, VIOLATED THE TRUST AND ABUSED INDIVIDUALS RANGING FROM AGE 12 ALL THE WAY TO WOMEN WHO ARE OLDER THAN 65 YEARS OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL DECADES.

IT'S AN OUTRAGE THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS, THOSE SURVIVORS HAD SUCH A NARROW WINDOW IN WHICH TO FILE CLAIMS AGAINST THEIR ABUSERS.

>> ANOTHER SURVIVOR, TOM ANDRI0LA, SAID THE ONLY OPPOSITION HE HEARD SHOULDN'T STOP THE BILL FROM BECOMING LAW.

>> THE ONLY OPPOSITION TO THE ADULT SURVIVORS ACT, IS IT WON'T PROVIDE RELIEF TO EVERY SINGLE SURVIVOR OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.

BUT DOING NOTHING UNTIL WE CAN DO EVERYTHING IS UNCONSCIONABLE.

WE CAN HELP THOUSANDS OF SURVIVORS WHO HAVE BEEN DENIED JUSTICE FOR SO LONG, AND THERE'S NO GOOD REASON WE SHOULD MAKE THEM WAIT ANY LONGER.

>> ULTIMATELY, HOECHSTETTER SAYS THAT IF LAWMAKERS ARE LOOKING FOR REASON TO SUPPORT THE BILL, THEY SHOULD ASK VICTIMS WHAT IT WOULD MEAN TO THEM.

>> WHAT YOU SEE STANDING HERE IS ME, ONE WOMAN.

WHO I HEAR FROM AND WHO I REPRESENT ARE HUNDREDS OF WOMEN FROM THE AGE OF 15 TO 70, WHO HAVE BEEN ASSAULTED BY THE SAME DOCTOR.

EVERY RACE, EVERY AGE, EVERY STAGE IN THEIR LIFE.

IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, IF THAT IS NOT ENOUGH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.

>> THE BILL'S OPPONENTS IN THE ASSEMBLY HAVEN'T ACTUALLY MADE THEIR POSITION PUBLIC SO WE DON'T KNOW WHO HELD IT BACK FROM COMING TO A VOTE AND IT'S NOT CLEAR IF THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO RETURN IN THE COMING WEEKS TO ADDRESS THEIR UNFINISHED BUSINESS BUT IF THEY DO, SUPPORTERS OF THE ADULT SURVIVORS ACT SAY THE BILL WILL BE AMONG THEIR TOP PRIORITIES.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT STORY, DARRELL.

SO VERY QUICKLY, WE HAVE 30 SECONDS.

WHAT ELSE DID THE LEGISLATURE GO HOME WITHOUT PASSING?

>> SOMETHING LIKE CLEAN SLATE THAT HAD THE VOTES TO PASS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THIS, BUT MY EARLY DAYS IN THE LEGISLATURE WERE IN 2017 WHEN WE HAD A SPECIAL SESSION FOR THINGS LIKE THE MARIO CUOMO BRIDGE.

THEY MUST HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT WAY BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THERE WAS ACTUALLY REPUBLICAN CONTROL IN ONE OF THE HOUSES AND THEY WERE LIKE, HEY, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE SUPPORT WE NEED OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE THINGS TO GET DONE.

SO WE NEED TO SORT OF GO BACK TO THE OLD GOOD DAYS, IF YOU WILL.

>> YOU KNOW, I WONDER WHY THEY'RE NOT COMING BACK.

I GOT IT BEFORE THE NEW YORK CITY PRIMARY BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTED TO CAMPAIGN.

NOW I'M WONDERING WHEN WE SEE THEM AGAIN.

I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE THAT FAR AWAY.

WE'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, DARREL.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING THIS WEEK'S EDITION OF "NEW YORK NOW."

HAVE A GREAT WEEK AND BE WELL.

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