AN UNPROVEN METHOD OF EXECUTION, NOW PROVEN IN ALABAMA.

DOORBELL CAMERAS AND THE POLICE.

PRIVATE COMPANIES SAY GET A WARRANT.

AND JON STEWART MAKES A COMEBACK •IS JOE BIDEN WATCHING?

STAY TUNED, IVORY TOWER IS NEXT.

AN UNPROVEN METHOD OF EXECUTION, NOW PROVEN IN ALABAMA.

DOORBELL CAMERAS AND THE POLICE.

PRIVATE COMPANIES SAY GET A WARRANT.

AND JON STEWART MAKES A COMEBACK •IS JOE BIDEN WATCHING?

STAY TUNED, IVORY TOWER IS NEXT.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO IVORY TOWER.

I'M DAVID CHANATRY, FROM UTICA UNIVERSITY.

I'M JOINED THIS WEEK BY CHAD SPARBER FROM COLGATE UNIVERSITY, TARA ROSS FROM ONONDAGA COMMUNITY COLLEGE, BEN BAUGHMAN FROM GANNON UNIVERSITY AND LUKE PERRY, FROM UTICA COLLEGE.

IN ALABAMA LAST WEEK, A CONVICTED MURDERER NAMED KENNETH SMITH BECAME THE FIRST KNOWN PERSON TO BE EXECUTED BY NITROGEN GAS.

SMITH OPTED FOR IT AFTER THE STATE TRIED AND FAILED TO KILL HIM BY INJECTION TWO YEARS AGO.

THIS TIME, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BECOME UNCONSCIOUS WITHIN SECONDS, BUT REPORTEDLY STRUGGLED FOR AT LEAST 2 MINUTES, AND DID NOT DIE FOR SEVERAL MINUTES MORE.

THE ALABAMA ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID 43 MORE DEATH ROW INMATES HAVE CHOSEN THE SAME METHOD OF EXECUTION, AND ADDED "IT'S NO LONGER AN UNTESTED METHOD."

SHOULD THE DEATH PENALTY BE ABOLISHED, OR AT LEAST HAVE STRICTER RULES ABOUT METHOD?

>> THE NOBEL LAUREATE GARY BECKER ARGUED IF CAPITAL PUNISHMENT IS A DETERRENT TO MURDER BECAUSE IF IT IS NOT, THE DEATH PENALTY IS JUST VENGEANCE AND PUBLIC POLICY SHOULD NOT BE BASED UPON VENGEANCE.

IF YOU ACCEPT THAT PREMISE, THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE EVIDENCE ON DETERRENTS IS WILDLY INCONSISTENT.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THE DEATH PENALTY IS A RARE EVENT AND THAT'S GOOD FROM A SOCIAL POINT OF VIEW, BUT BAD FOR STATISTICAL ANALYSIS.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO STATISTICS, IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, VERY SMALL DIFFERENCES IN APPROACH OR METHODOLOGY CAN LEAD TO VERY, VERY BIG DIVERGENT OUTCOMES.

AND CONCLUSIONS SO FUNDAMENTALLY, WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

IN THE ABSENCE OF ROBUST EVIDENCE ABOUT THE EFFICACY OF THE DEATH PENALTY AND DETERRING VIOLENT CRIME, I WOULD SAY YEAH IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE ABOLISHED.

>> IN TERMS OF THE WAY WE ADMINISTER IT, SHOULD IT BE MORE UNIFORM, BEN?

>> I KNOW VETERINARIANS HAVE BEEN TOLD NOT TO USE ON THE ANIMALS TO PUT ANIMALS DOWN.

SO THE FACT THAT WE THEN TURN TO THAT FOR DEATH PENALTY IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

THE BOTTOM LINE COMES DOWN TO ARE YOU TRYING TO SERVE JUSTICE?

IS IT A DETERRENT?

AND THAT IS REALLY THE QUESTION BECAUSE IT DOES REMAIN INCONCLUSIVE WHEN YOU LOOK AT STUDIES ACROSS THE BOARD, META DATA.

IT IS A DETERRENT IN THE SENSE THAT LIFE IN PRISON AND DEATH PENALTY ARE BOTH DETERRENTS TO SOME EXTENT.

>> I THINK BEYOND DETERRENTS THERE ARE ETHICAL QUESTIONS AND POLITICAL AND SOCIAL QUESTIONS, RIGHT?

WE KNOW WE HAVE WRONGLY PUT PEOPLE TO DEATH THAT WE LATER FOUND INNOCENT AND THIS IS THE ONLY TYPE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT WHERE THERE IS NO REMEDY TO TRY TO CORRECT MISTAKES.

SO THAT, TO ME, SUGGESTS THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS WITH DOING THIS TYPE OF THING.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE EXECUTE BLACK PEOPLE AT A MUCH LARGER RATE THAN WE DO WHITE PEOPLE, WHICH IS A HISTORICAL PROBLEM THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER.

AND LASTLY, FOR ME, I THINK OF THE GLOBAL CONTEXT.

THREE QUARTERS OF THE WORLD HAS DONE AWAY WITH THIS PRACTICE BECAUSE THEY VIEW IT AS BARBARIC, INCONSISTENT WITH INALIENABLE RIGHT TO LIFE.

WE ARE ALIGNING OURSELVES MORE WITH CHINA AND RUSSIA AND THEIR TYPE OF GOVERNANCE HAVING THIS OPPOSED TO THE WEST OF THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION AND THE DEMOCRATIC WORLD.

>> THERE IS ANOTHER ISSUE, AND THIS GOES BACK TO ONE OF THE COMMENTS MADE EARLIER, ABOUT THE INCONSISTENCY IN THE DATA THAT WE HAVE.

ANECDOTALLY, IF YOU TALK TO PRISONERS ON DEATH ROW, THEY OFTEN WILL TELL YOU THAT IT IS HARDER SIMPLY BEING CONSTANTLY ON DEATH ROW AND SORT OF LIVING YOUR LIFE KNOWING THAT DEATH MAY COME OPPOSED TO KNOWING THAT, OKAY ON SUCH AND SUCH A DATE ON SUCH A TIME, I'M GOING TO DIE.

FOR MANY OF THE PRISONERS ON DEATH ROW, ONCE THEY HAVE A DATE, IT BECOMES A RELIEF BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE OVER; THAT THERE IS AN END POINT.

SO ACTUALLY, IF USUAL TRYING TO PUNISH ACTUALLY GIVING THEM THIS OPEN ENDED, OKAY YOU ARE ON DEATH ROW, WE MAY PUT TO YOU DEATH AT SOME POINT BUT YOU HAVE NO MORE APPEALS AND YOU ARE ON DEATH ROW IS MORE OF A PUNISHMENT, AT LEAST ANECDOTALLY.

>> SO THAT OPEN ENDED, YOU KNOW, SWORD HANGING OVER YOUR HEAD, IF YOU WILL, DOES THAT BECOME CRUEL?

I MEAN YOU TALK ABOUT CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT, THAT SEEMS RATHER CRUEL IN A SENSE.

>> IN A SENSE, IT IS MORE CRUEL AND CERTAINLY IN A PSYCHOLOGICAL SENSE IT'S MORE CRUEL.

BUT IF YOUR IDEA IS TO DETER CRIMINALS THAT NOTION THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE AN OPEN ENDED, OKAY, WE WILL PUT YOU TO DEATH AT SOME POINT BUT YOU ARE JUST GOING TO HANG OUT ON DEATH ROW, OR YOU ARE GOING TO HANG OUT IN A MAXIMUM SECURITY WHERE YOU HAVE LIMITED ACCESS TO ANYTHING, ACTUALLY IS MORE OF A PUNISHMENT AND MIGHT BE MORE OF A DETERRENT.

>> CRUEL IS A QUESTION OF HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT VENGEANCE.

ON THE UNUSUAL PART, TO LUKE'S POINT, OF THE 40 MOST DEVELOPED ECONOMIES IN THE WORLD, ONLY FOUR STILL HAVE THE DEATH PENALTY.

THE U.S., JAPAN, SINGAPORE AND TAIWAN.

RUSSIA ACTUALLY TECHNICALLY HAS THE DEATH PENALTY, BUT HASN'T USED IT, I GUESS, SINCE THE 1990S.

BUT I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE DEATH PENALTY IS CRAZY EXPENSE EXPENSIVE.

IT'S LIKE FOUR TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A REGULAR APPEAL AND THOSE COSTS ARE LARGELY BORN BY COUNTIES AND THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT, BECAUSE OF THE DEATH PENALTY, THOSE COUNTIES END UP RAISING THEIR PROPERTY TAXES AND THEY REDUCE THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY EXPENDITURES AND SO THERE IS THIS SORT OF, I DON'T KNOW, COUNTERINTUITIVE RESULT THAT COULD YOU INCREASE CRIME AS A RESULT OF HAVING CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.

>> SPEAKING OF INTEREST INTUITION, IF WE THINK ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY, IT'S CONFINED CURRENTLY ALTHOUGH THIS MAY CHANGE, TO PREMEDITATED MURDER.

BEN WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE IN LAWSUIT LAW ENFORCEMENT.

DO WE THINK SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING TO PLAN OUT A MURDER IN ADVANCE AND WILLING TO EXECUTE IT IS GOING TO SAY AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW WHAT?

I'M NOT GOING TO DO THIS BECAUSE I COULD FACE THE DEATH PENALTY.

>> ABSOLUTELY THERE ARE.

>> YOU THINK THAT'S THE NORM THOUGH?

>> SERIOUSLY THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO THE CONSPIRACY WHERE THEY PLAN A MURDER AND ONE OR MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED GET COLD FEET.

SO, YES, IT HAPPENS.

>> GET COLD FEET BECAUSE OF THE CONCERN ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY?

>> I'M SURE IT'S NOT JUST ONE THING.

I'M SURE IT'S NOT JUST THE DEATH PENALTY.

THERE IS ALSO YOUR CONSCIENCE AND OTHER THINGS, OTHER LAYERS THAT KEEP PEOPLE FROM DOING THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT GOING BACK TO THE DETERRENT COMPONENT, THERE IS THE INDIVIDUAL DETERRENT AND JUSTICE AND THEN OF COURSE THERE IS THE GROUP, MAKING SOMEBODY AN EXAMPLE FOR THE GROUP.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER ASPECT THAT WE SEE.

BUT WHAT WE ARE REALLY MISSING IS SWIFT, CERTAIN AND SEVERE CONSEQUENCES TO HELP PREVENT CRIME.

AND THAT'S WHAT SHOWS TO ACTUALLY PREVENT CRIME.

AND OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM IS NOT SWIFT AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT CERTAIN.

THE ONLY THING THAT'S LEFT IS THE SEVERE.

>> NOW WE DO HAVE ANOTHER CRIM STORY TO DISCUSS.

VIDEO FROM RING HOME SECURITY SYSTEMS WILL NO LONGER BE PROVIDED TO POLICE, UNLESS THEY HAVE A WARRANT.

THE COMPANY ANNOUNCED THE CHANGE LAST WEEK, DESPITE HAVING PREVIOUSLY PUSHED THE IDEA THAT THIS KIND OF SURVEILLANCE COULD HELP POLICE.

GOOGLE MAPS HAS ALSO CUT BACK ON HELPING LAW ENFORCEMENT.

BEN, SHOULD THIS MOVE BY RING-- WHICH IS OWNED BY AMAZON-- BE REVERSED SO POLICE CAN EASILY AND QUICKLY OBTAIN THESE VIDEOS?

>> WILLING TO HELP, YES, BUT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR CONSTITUTION.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE LEFT ALONE AND THE RIGHT TO HAVE PRIVACY.

IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT RING'S CAMERAS THAT ARE ON THE DOOR BELLS THAT ARE FOCUSED ON THE OUTSIDE WORLD WHERE YOU HAVE VERY LIMITED EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY, WHERE YOU ARE WALKING DOWN THE STREET, WALKING UP TO A DOOR, ANYBODY CAN DRIVE BY AND SEE THAT, THAT'S ONE THING.

VERSUS IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CAMERAS INSIDE OF HOMES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

>> CERTAINLY THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DOOR BELL CAMERAS THAT'S SHOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE.

I MEAN IF WE WERE INSIDE THE HOME, OF COURSE, I THINK YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT THAT TO HELP SOLVE A CRIME.

>> FOR SURE.

BUT I DO THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU EVEN HAVE THE ASPECT OF A LEVEL OF EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY AROUND YOUR IMMEDIATE COMPONENT OF YOUR HOUSE, SO YOU DO HAVE THAT ASPECT AS WELL.

LIKE POLICE OFFICERS, THEY CAN DO A TRASH PULL WHEN IT'S ON THE CURB VERSUS GOING TO THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE WHERE YOU KEEP YOUR TRASH TO GO THROUGH YOUR TRASH AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT YOU ARE COMMITTING CRIMES.

SO THERE ARE LAYERS OF PROTECTION.

SO I DO THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT MOVE.

>> THAT THEY SHOULD-- IT'S THE RIGHT MOVE THAT THEY SHOULD... >> THAT THEY SHOULD REQUIRE A COURT ORDER.

IT CAN BE A SUBPOENA, IT CAN BE A WARRANT.

>> TARA?

I'M SORRY, CHAD, JUMP RIGHT IN.

>> I MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AS WELL AS I COULD.

BECAUSE TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S THE WRONG POLICY FOR VERY REAL PROBLEMS.

MAYBE I'LL FOCUS ON THIS ONE ISSUE WHERE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS IS CHAT EFFECTIVELY, RING'S NEW POLICY IS AN ADMISSION THAT IF I'M USING THEIR PRODUCT, THE RECORDINGS AND THE DATA BELONG TO AMAZON, NOT TO ME.

AND TO ME THAT'S ALARMING.

LIKE IF I SET UP MY OWN SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM WITH CAMERAS AND SERVER IN MY HOUSE AND WHATEVER, I COULD SHARE THAT WITH THE POLICE AT WILL.

BUT IF I'M USING RING'S EQUIPMENT FOR THE DOOR BELL AND THE POLICE ASK, LIKE HEY, CAN WE HAVE ACCESS TO IT, I CAN'T SAY YES BECAUSE IT'S AMAZON'S EQUIPMENT?

I MEAN THAT STRIKES ME... >> I BELIEVE INDIVIDUALLY YOU CAN SAY YES.

IT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTION THAT THEY HAD.

SO AND YOU RAISE A GREAT POINT.

PEOPLE THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ON GOOGLE AND THEY'RE SEARCHING STUFF THAT IT'S ALL PRIVATE.

IT'S PRIVATE UNTIL THEY CROSS A LINE AND THEY'RE SHARING KIDDIE PORN OR SOMETHING THAT IS ILLEGAL.

AND THEN RED FLAGS ARE THROWN UP.

SO EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE USING ANOTHER PRODUCT, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT IS STORED, AND EVEN IF YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT, IT STILL DOESN'T ALLOW TO YOU COMMIT CRIMES.

>> SHOULDN'T WE BE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO HELP POLICE SOLVE CRIMES, TARA?

>> WE SHOULD WITHIN REASON.

AND THE WITHIN REASON IS IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RING AND THE POLICE HAVE A CONCERN, THEY'RE CANVASSING, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IF THEY ASK FOR IT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD REASONABLY GIVE IT TO THEM, YOU KNOW.

AND I WOULD ASSUME IF YOU ARE A POLICE OFFICER, THERE IS A RED FLAG IF SUDDENLY SOMEONE SAYS YES, I HAVE RING AND YES, IT PROJECTS WHAT IS GOING ON ACROSS THE STREET AT MY NEIGHBOR'S BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO YOU.

THAT MIGHT RAISE SOME RED FLAGS FOR THE POLICE.

ON THE OTHER HAND, I DO UNDERSTAND THE INDIVIDUAL CONCERN THAT OKAY, I'M NOT SURE I WANT MY NEIGHBORS SHARING INFORMATION ABOUT WHO IS COMING TO MY FRONT DOOR SO I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO GIVE OUT INFORMATION ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO MY NEIGHBOR'S DOOR EVEN IF THE POLICE HAVE A REALLY LEGITIMATES REASON FOR WANTING THAT INFORMATION.

>> AND LEGITIMATE REASONS THE ISSUE HERE BECAUSE THEY COULD GET A WARRANT TO GET IT AND IF THEY GET THE WARRANT, THEN OBVIOUSLY HAVE YOU TO GIVE IT TO THEM.

>> THERE ARE TWO ISSUES HERE.

ONE IS RING GAVE OUT PEOPLE'S VIDEO WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT 11 TIMES, RIGHT?

AND THEY SAID THERE WAS AN EMINENT THERE IT.

I WOULD BE CURIOUS WHAT AN I AM PLENTY EMINENT THREAT WHERE THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.

I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE DO THAT WITHOUT A WARRANT.

>> THAT'S NOT CHANGING.

IF IT'S AN URGENT NECESSITY WHERE SOMEBODY'S LIFE IS ON THE LINE... >> HOW IS THEIR LIFE GOING TO BE ON THE LINE WHERE DOOR BELL VIDEO IS GOING TO SAVE THE LIFE?

LIKE I HAVE A HARD TIME ENVISIONING-- I GRANT YOU THERE MIGHT BE SITUATIONSES WHERE THAT HAPPENS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE APP.

BEFORE THE PLATFORM WORKED WHERE THE POLICE COULD DIRECTLY REQUEST FROM RING CUSTOMERS THEIR VIDEO.

AND THE COMPANY SAID AFTER A WHILE AND SOME PUBLIC OUTLASH, LIKE OKAY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT AS PART OF OUR PLATFORM ANYMORE.

POLICE COULD STILL ASK FOR IT AND PEOPLE CAN STILL GIVE IT TO THEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE SHOULD FEEL COMPELLED TO DO THAT.

THEY SHOULD MAKE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS.

>> IS THAT TRUE?

AGAIN, MY READING OF THE QUOTES THAT THE C.E.O.

OR WHOMEVER PUT OUT IS THAT NO, POLICE CAN NO LONGER ASK THE INDIVIDUALS FOR ACCESS TO THE RING VIDEO.

>> THROUGH THE APP.

>> IT'S JUST THROUGH THE APP.

>> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

>> THE NEIGHBORHOOD APP.

>> YOU CAN STILL GET CONSENT FROM THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS THE SERVICE.

>> OKAY.

THERE IS ALSO BEEN CONCERN THAT THESE DOOR BELL CAMERAS LEAD TO A SENSE OF SOME RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.

WHY IS THAT?

DOES ANYBODY HAVE A HANDLE ON THAT?

APPARENTLY NOT.

>> MY THEORY, LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY, IS THAT PEOPLE ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY IF THE DELIVERY PERSON OR, YOU KNOW, THE POSTMAN, LET'S SAY IT'S SOMEBODY SUBBING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO, SADLY, ASSUME THAT THIS PERSON MAY BE DOING SOMETHING NEFARIOUS AND REPORT IT TO THE POLICE AS OPPOSED TO SIMPLY SAYING THAT'S A DELIVERY MAN, YOU KNOW... THAT'S MY AGLUPTION THAT BRINGS MIF HIVE THAT'S MY ASSUMPTION.

>> THAT BRINGS TO MIND IN MISSOURI, THE YOUNG BOY WENT TO THE WRONG HOUSE TO PICK UP HIS YOUNGER BROTHER AND WAS SHOT AT THE DOOR.

I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, THE GUY WHO DID IT HAD ONE OF THESE HOME CAMERAS, SOME SORT OF SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM.

OKAY.

LET'S MOVE ALONG.

JON STEWART IS RETURNING TO HOST THE THE DAILY SHOW ONE DAY A WEEK THROUGH THE ELECTION.

THOUGH A COMEDIAN, STEWART IS A SHARP POLITICAL COMMENTATOR AND HIS SHOW WAS A SOURCE OF NEWS FOR MANY YOUNG PEOPLE.

SOME MEDIA CRITICS THOUGHT HIS DAILY SHOW WAS MORE INFORMATIVE THAN MANY NEWSCASTS.

I'M WONDERING, TARA, COULD HE ACTUALLY HE AND HIS PROGRAM ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION?

>> I DON'T THINK IT-- I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT CAN'T, BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE AN INFLUENCE OR WHO KNEW THAT TAYLOR SWIFT WAS GOING TO HAVE SO MUCH INFLUENCE ON YOUNG PEOPLE.

>> I THINK SHE MAY BE A PART OF THIS STORY AS WELL.

>> EXACTLY.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT CAN'T.

BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE FIRST AND FOREMOST JON STEWART HAS BEEN AWAY FROM THE SHOW FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS AND SO HIS DEMOGRAPHIC HAS CHANGED.

THE PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY SPENT THE MOST TIME WATCHING HIM, THEY ARE OLDER, SOME OF THEM HAVE GONE FROM BEING, YOU KNOW, YOUNG ADULTS TO NOW BEING PEOPLE WITH CHILDREN WHO, YOU KNOW, MIGHT STAY UP AND WATCH HIS SHOW, BUT MIGHT NOT BECAUSE I'VE GOT TO GET UP, GET THE KIDS READY FOR SCHOOL, ET CETERA.

SO THAT'S ONE FACTOR.

ANOTHER FACTOR IS THE FACT THAT HE HAS HAD A SOCIAL MEDIA SHOW THAT HAS NOT DONE THAT WELL.

SO YOU CAN'T AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THAT HE IS GOING TO BRING-- CERTAINLY HE WILL BRING SOME OF THOSE WHO WERE ONLINE WITH HIM TO THE DAILY SHOW, BUT MAY NOT BRING ALL OF THEM.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER FACTOR.

AND THEN THERE IS THE FACTOR THAT HE HAS GOTTEN OLDER, SO, YOU KNOW, IS HE SORT OF THE MAN NOW IN THE WAY HE WAS BACK THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TUNED IN FOR VARYING REASONS.

WILL HE STILL GET THAT SAME SUPPORT?

>> NO.

I AM AGREEING WITH YOU IN ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

DEMOCRATS ARE WORRIED ABOUT LOSING THE NEXT ELECTION TO DONALD TRUMP.

THEY VIEW THAT AS AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS.

THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT YOUNG ADULTS NOT TURNING OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE DISENGAGED IN POLITICS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE 20 YEARS OLD LIVED THROUGH 9/11, A GREAT RECESSION, A GLOBAL PANDEMIC.

THEY'RE NOT HAPPY AND THEY DON'T THINK HIGHLY OF WHAT GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO DO.

TO THINK THAT JON STEWART GOING BACK TO THE DAILY SHOW IS GOING TO HELP I THINK IS KIND OF SILLY.

HIS AVERAGE ABLE OF HIS AUDIENCE IN 2010 WAS 48.

THE AVERAGE AGE FOR THE DAILY SHOW IS 63.

THEY USED TO HAVE 2.2 MILLION VIEWERS.

THEY NOW HAVE OVER 500,000.

ONE NIGHT A WEEK, HE WILL PROVIDE CUTTING CRITIQUES OF DONALD TRUMP BUT HE IS NOT GOING TO RALLY YOUNG PEOPLE AROUND JOE BIDEN.

IT WON'T WORK.

>> ABSOLUTELY, LIKE 63?

IT'S WONDERFUL.

63.

HIS AUDIENCE IS NEITHER YOUNG NOR LARGE.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, HE HAS INCREASED COMPETITION FROM THE LATE NIGHT HOSTS, I MEAN AT THE TIME HE WAS ON, IT WAS THAT AND SNL DOING POLITICAL COMMENTARY AND NOW ALL THE LATE NIGHT HOSTS ARE DOING IT.

AND EVEN WITH THE BENEFIT OF LIKE TIKTOK AND YOUTUBE CLIPS NOW, YOU ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT AN OVER SATURATED MARKET OF LEFT WING WHITE MEN REALLY COMPETING FOR THE SAME SORT OF LIKE MINDED EYEBALLS.

YEAH, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A BIG EFFECT.

>> YEAH, SO WE'VE DISMISSED JON STEWART HERE, BUT TARA, YOU MENTIONED TAYLOR SWIFT AND THAT'S PART OF THE SAME IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY TO REACH YING YOUNGER VOTERS IS PERHAPS THROUGH CELEBRITIES AND, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO BIGGER CELEBRITY THAN HER AND APPARENTLY SHE ENDORSED JOE BIDEN LAST TIME.

IS THIS GOING TO BE AN EFFECTIVE STRATEGY TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE THROUGH TAYLOR AND JON.

>> I'M GOING TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK JON STEWART IS GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE IN THIS PLATFORM, NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR BIDEN PER SE, AND I HOPE THAT THAT IS NOT THE REASONING BEHIND IT.

MAYBE I'M BEING A LITTLE BIT TOO INNOCENT.

BUT THIS PLATFORM SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE PROBLEM, WHICH WAS A PROBLEM FOR JON STEWART.

HE IS A COMEDIAN BY HEART THAT SITS BACK AND POINTS OUT ISSUES IN AMERICA.

AND IF THAT WHAT IS HE IS GOING BACK TO, THAT ITSELF GOING TO BE MUCH MORE INFORMATIVE THAN TIKTOK AND INSTAGRAM AND THE OTHER CRAP THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING "FACTS" FROM.

>> AND PEOPLE DO GET NEWS-- WE SEE THIS ALL THE TIME NOW, YOUNG PEOPLE GET A LOT OF NEWS OR A LOT OF THEIR INFORMATION FROM TIKTOK.

WHICH CAN ACTUALLY BE, SOMETIMES IT CAN BE VERY EFFECTIVE AND ARE INTERESTING BUT THEN THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS.

THERE IS NO GATEKEEPER.

>> AND JON STEWART IS LEVERAGING TIKTOK TO TRY TO GET THE CROWD BACK TO THE DAILY SHOW BUT THE DAILY SHOW REALLY DID GO VERY FAR TO THE LEFT AND THAT LOST A LOT OF THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.

>> IF YOU GO BACK TO 2015 AND LOOK AT THE HEADLINES, LIKE SLATE HAD A HEADLINE WHY JON STEWART WAS BAD FOR THE LIBERALS WHO LOVED HIM.

TIME HAD A HEADLINE, THANKS JON STEWART FOR MAKING US ALL DUMBER.

ALL OF THAT RHETORIC AT THE TIME WAS ABOUT HOW HIS PREACHING MIGHT HAVE LIKE, YOU KNOW, HELPED THE CHOIR FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEIR OWN SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS.

BUT IT WASN'T DOING ANYTHING TO SWAY VOTES.

>> I THINK ALSO FROM AN ELECTORAL ANALYSIS PERSPECTIVE, ON THE LEFT, THERE IS THIS HOPE IN YOUNG PEOPLE THAT THEY WILL TURN OUT IN GREAT NUMBERS AND HELP THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SECURE THE-- YES, THEY'RE A PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC CONSTITUENCY BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THEY VOTE AT HALF THE RATE OF ADULT AMERICANS AT LARGE, RIGHT?

SO THIS ELECTION IS GOING TO COME DOWN, FOR THE DEMOCRATS, IF THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT PRIMING THEIR BASE, WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR, RIGHT?

THOSE ARE THE TWO DEMOGRAPHICS I WOULD BE MOST FOCUSED ON AND IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SWING DEMOGRAPHICS IT'S PARTICULARLY SUBURBAN WOMEN WILL BE THE TIPPING POINT IN THE KEY SWING STATES.

YOUNG PEOPLE NEED TO TURN OUT FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO WIN BUT THEY'RE NOT AS CRUCIAL AS SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE.

>> THEY WILL PROBABLY BE LOOKING FOR YOU TO PUT YOU ON-- >> I LOVE YOUNG ADULTS TOO.

WE ALL WORK WITH THEM.

>> WE NEED TO GO TO OUR AS AND FS AND CHAD YOUR F. >> TO KAMALA HARRIS FOR ARGUING WITH THE BIDEN'S APPROVAL RATINGS WOULD IMPROVE IF PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT ITS HISTORICAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

"WE GET THINGS DONE AND WE HAVE DONE IT" COMING FROM A PERSON WHO BIDEN PLACED IN CHARGE OF SOLVING OUR SOUTHERN BORDER CHALLENGES IN TWON SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GETTING DONE.

>> MY F GOES TO INVESTMENT FIRM ALDEN GLOBAL CAPITAL WHEN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS BOUGHT UP 36 BUS STATIONS, CONTRARY TO WHAT MOST OF US THINK, GREYHOUND OWNS THE BUSES NOT THE BUS STATIONS.

SINCE ALDEN GLOBAL CAPITAL PURCHASES, IT HAS CLOSED AS MANY STATIONS AS POSSIBLE SO THEY COULD SELL THE LAND AND BASICALLY EITHER ALLOW FOR CONDOS OR HIGH END RESTAURANTS, ET CETERA.

AND INCREASING NUMBER OF GREYHOUND PASSENGERS NOW MUST CATCH BUSS ON STREET CORNERS, EMPTY SHOPPING MALLS OR SMALL CRAMPED TEMPORARY STATIONS LIKE THE ONE YOU ARE LOOKING AT COLUMBUS OHIO.

CITY LEADERS SEEM TO HAVE VERY LITTLE CONTROL WHERE THE STATIONS ARE MOVED AND OVER WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

>> BEN.

>> SPEAKING OF TIKTOK, MY F IS GOING TO A MAN WHO IS FILMING HIMSELF DRINKING AND DRIVING AND LIVE STREAMING IT BEFORE FLIPPING HIS TRUCK.

IN THE VIDEO, THIS AUSSIE CAN BE SEEN TAKING BIG SWIGS FROM BEER AND THEN WHILE HE WAS DRIVING, WHILE HE FLIPS THE CAR, THEN YOU SEE HIM UPSIDE DOWN AND ALL OF THIS WAS PUT ON TIKTOK EVEN THOUGH HE WAS DRINKING AND DRIVING AND FLIPPED HIS TRUCK.

>> LUKE.

>> MY F GOES TO THE NEVADA REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR SCHEDULING THEIR PRESIDENTIAL CAUCUS AFTER A STATE MANDATED PRIMARY CREATING CONFUSION FOR VOTERS AND CANDIDATES.

>> AND OUR AS, CHAD.

>> SO I'M GIVING AN A TO NEWS CHAT CHOBANI HAS ACQUIRED COLONES COFFEE.

THIS IS A GREAT ACQUISITION OF THE SIGN FOR POTENTIAL FOR CONTINUED GROWTH.

ITS FOUNDER IS A CURD WHO LEFT TURKEY DUE TO THE OPPRESSION OF THE CURDISH PEOPLE AND AN EXAMPLE, PERHAPS OF THE VALUE OF WELCOMING IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES TO THE UNITED STATES.

>> TARA.

>> LONG OVERDUE A TO THE LIFE AND WORK OF ACTRESS ELLEN HOLLY.

MOST OF YOU PROBABLY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF HER BUT SHE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN TO HAVE A RECURRING ROLE ON A DAYTIME DRAMA, "ONE LIFE TO LIVE" AS A FAIR SKINNED AFRICAN-AMERICAN, SHE ALLOWED THE SHOW TO EXPLORE A NUMBER OF ISSUES INCLUDING INTRAGROUP RACISM IN CLASSES, INTRARACIAL MARRIAGE AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR BLACK WOMEN BEYOND BEING A MAID.

>> BEN.

>> MY A GOES TO A SPECIAL UNIT THAT TRACKS DOWN $30 MILLION WORTH OF STOLEN VEHICLES JUST THIS PAST YEAR.

UTILIZING APPLIED INTELLIGENCE METHOD.

THIS ESSEX BASED UNIT SPECIALIZES IN RECOVERING VEHICLES BUT ALSO DISRUPTING THE ORGANIZED CRIME BEHIND IT.

>> AND LUKE.

>> MY A GOES TO NEW YORK CITY.

THIS WEEK THEY BECAME THE FIRST MAJOR CITY TO DECLARE SOCIAL MEDIA A PUBLIC HEALTH HAZARD.

>> OKAY.

TARA YOUR F WAS TO ALDEN GLOBAL CAPITAL FOR THEIR ACQUIRING THE BUS STATIONS AND ALL.

ALDEN CAPITAL THAT HEDGE FUND ALSO HAS BEEN INQUIRYING ABOUT LOCAL NEWSPAPERS AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE SEE A LOT FEWER LOCAL PAPERS AND LEADING TO THE DIRTH OF LOCAL REPORTING AND JOURNALISM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE BUGS IN MY BONNET.

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I'M DAVID CHANATRY AND FOR ALL OF US AT "IVORY TOWER," HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

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