SCHOOL COUNCILS HAVE BEEN GRAPPLING OVER WHETHER POLICE SHOULD BE IN PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL SINCE 2019.

THAT'S WHEN FORMER MAYOR LORI LIGHTFOOT PUT THAT DECISION IN THEIR HANDS.

NOW, THE CHICAGO BOARD OF EDUCATION SAYS THE DEBATE IS OVER IN A UNANIMOUS BUT VOTE BOARD MEMBERS DECIDED TO ELIMINATE UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICERS FROM THE 39 PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOLS THAT STILL HAVE THEM.

WE'RE GOING HEAR FROM 2 VERY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON THIS.

STARTING FIRST WITH WESTSIDE ACTIVIST AND FORMER CHICAGO BOARD OF EDUCATION MEMBER DWAYNE TRUSS.

AND OF COURSE, WE'LL HEAR FROM ANOTHER GUEST ON THE SAME TOPIC IN JUST A FEW MINUTES TO INTEREST.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU HAPPENING SO YOU LIVE IN THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD.

5 CHILDREN.

2 NIECES HAVE ALL GRADUATED FROM CHICAGO.

PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOLS.

YOU HAVE GRANDCHILDREN IN CPS, HIGH SCHOOLS IT.

HAVE YOU WORRIED?

DO YOU WORRY ABOUT THEIR SAFETY?

>> YES, EVERY DAY.

A LITTLE LATE TONIGHT, WE PRAY FOR SAFETY OF DAY.

WE PRAY TO THE SAFETY FOR ALL OF OUR KIDS AND CHILDREN BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE UNDERSTAND ENVIRONMENT WHICH WE LIVE IN.

WE CHOSE TO LIVE IN AN ENVIRONMENT.

WE USED TO RUN A NEW PROGRAM FOR KIDS BECAUSE THE FACT THAT THERE WAS THAT BACK IN 2 AND WE DECIDED TO THE VILLAGE OF STEPPING >> DO YOU THINK THAT THE HIGH SCHOOLS IN YOUR WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP POLICE OFFICERS IN SCHOOLS IS NOT WHAT I THINK IS WHAT THE LOCAL SCHOOL COUNCILS BELIEVE.

THE BEST DAY BEST POSITION, WORK TOGETHER WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS.

PRINCIPAL COMMUNITY STUDENTS, STAFF TEACHERS TO COME UP WITH THAT DECISION IS NOT ABOUT ME.

IT'S ABOUT THE LOCAL SCHOOL RIGHT HAVE TRYING TO STATE LAW.

>> YOUR ARGUMENT IS, OF COURSE, MORE ABOUT HAVING LEFT WITH THE LSU AS DID FORMER LORI LIGHTFOOT VERSUS WHAT THE CURRENT SCHOOL BOARD IS DOING.

NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS IN CHICAGO, SCHOOLS HAS DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY IN TWENTY-TWENTY CPS WAS PAYING THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

33 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR SORROWS THIS YEAR.

ONLY 10 MILLION DOLLARS IS BUDGETED FOR POLICE IN SCHOOLS.

BUT CRITICS SAY THAT'S 10 MILLION DOLLARS THAT COULD BE SPENT DIFFERENTLY ON TEACHERS AND AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS MAY BE SOCIAL WORKERS.

DO YOU THINK THAT THAT IS MONEY THAT SHOULD OTHERWISE BE DIVERTED TO SCHOOL RESOURCES EFFECTIVELY FOR YOU TO THE WHOLE SCHOOL DASHBOARD.

THOSE SCHOOLS WHO HAVE VOTED TO REMOVE ROLLS A SHIP MONEY INTO SECURITY OFFICES.

>> THOUGH SECURITY OFFICER COULD POSSIBLY BE COULD BE OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS.

I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS, BUT A LOT SHIP THAT A SECURITY BECAUSE SECURITY IS STILL A CONCERN OF THOSE LOCAL SCHOOLS, WHICH PARTICULAR HIGH SCHOOLS IN MIND THAT THAT COME TO MIND WHERE THEY'RE STILL SECURITY OFFICER A LOOK AT THE PUPS TALK MY HEAD.

I WANT TO SAY WITH MARSHALL HIGH SCHOOL MARSHAL VOTED TO MOVE SRO AND THEY SHIFTED THOSE FUNDS INTO FORCE SECURITY OFFICER BECAUSE SECURITY OBVIOUSLY STILL CERTAINLY MARSHALL HIGH SCHOOL.

SO SOME OF IT PUT THE MONEY INTO CLIMATE CULTURE, SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL, SUPPORTS, BUT A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEEN BEST OF THOSE HAVE HAD TO BEEN.

YOU HAVE TO SECURITY THINK THAT THAT SORT OF HOLD A SCHOOL SAFETY APPROACH.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH, BUT THAT THAT THOSE SCHOOLS BELIEVE THAT THEY STILL A SECURITY OFFICER OF SOMETIME PRESENT ON THE SCHOOL GROUNDS.

YES.

>> YES.

JUST THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE FOR YOUNG MEN'S 4 BY, LIKE I SAY, OUR BABIES MURDERED JUST OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL.

I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE WITH SARLES PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.

BUT THAT HAS HAPPENED IN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE OUT THERE BECAUSE I KIDS, ESPECIALLY MICHELLE CLARK.

AND SINCE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE THAT 5 CHILDREN MURDERED OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL.

AND THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR THE KIDS THERE.

SO WE HAVE TO CREATE THIS SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

AND THE LOCAL SCHOOL COUNCIL SAID, YEAH, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE ALL THESE COMPONENTS HERE TO MAKE KIDS FEEL WHEN IT COMES SAFE WHEN THEY COME TO SCHOOL.

>> THERE'S SOME DATA THAT SHOWS COPS.

THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE CONCENTRATED IN MAJORITY BLACK SCHOOLS ON.

HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE ARGUMENT THAT HAVING POLICE OFFICERS IN SCHOOL CONTRIBUTES TO THE OVER-POLICING OF BLACK AND BROWN STUDENTS AND LEADS TO SORT OF CREATES A PIPELINE.

WELL, I WILL LET US BE REALISTIC.

IS THAT?

OVER THE SEA OF THE MURDERS WE HAD LAST YEAR.

CHICAGO.

OVER 90% OF THE PERPETRATORS WAS BLACK.

PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE YOU IS THAT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME IS REAL IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

PARENTS COME INTO SCHOOLS, ATTACK AND STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AND STAFF IS VERY REAL IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I'M NOT HERE TO DISPARAGE STEP, BUT JUST A REALITY.

SOME SCHOOLS HAVE IT.

WHERE PARIS?

ANYBODY COME SCHOOL HAVE TO HAVE THAT A RESERVATION ON THE APPOINTMENT BECAUSE PARENTS BECOMING A SAYING WHAT APPEARED TO DROP OFF SOMETHING AND IT'S LIKE, OK, WHERE IS HE WISHED SHE AND THEY START FIGHTS WITH STUDENTS AND THEN STUDENTS THAT WILL FIGHT STAFF AND THAT THERE'S A VIEW GET ASSAULTED.

YOU KNOW THAT YOU GET US ALL TO AND YOU WANT SWEAT TO REPORT A THAT'S A RIGHT.

AND SOMEBODY WOULD DO THAT.

THE QUESTION IS ALWAYS WHO IS CALLING THE POLICE ON THESE KIDS?

A COUPLE SECONDS LEFT.

WHAT?

WHAT'S NEXT?

WHAT WHAT RECOURSE DO YOU HAVE A DEEP CONTINUING TO OBJECT TO THIS?

>> WELL, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE RIGHTS OF LOCAL SCHOOL COUNCILS.

BE SURE THEY HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD ON NOT JUST THIS MATTER, BUT ALL THAT IS.

>> BECAUSE WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS THE A LOCAL SCHOOL COUNCIL POTENTIALLY COULD BE COMPLETELY ROAD WAITRESS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU FROM.

AND WE JUST FROM AN OPPONENT OF THE CHICAGO BOARD OF EDUCATION'S PLAN TO REMOVE POLICE OFFICERS FROM PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

JOINING US NOW WITH ANOTHER OPINION IS ASIA TATE, A SENIOR AT HYDE PARK ACADEMY AND STUDENT ACTIVIST WITH THE NONPROFIT GROUP STOP OR SOUTHSIDE TOGETHER, ORGANIZING FOR POWER ASIA.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

SO WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS MOMENT TO REMOVE POLICE FROM SCHOOLS?

WELL, I FEEL LIKE POLICE OFFICERS SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN SCHOOL BECAUSE AS WE CAN SEE THAT THEY CAN'T DO NOTHING ACCORDING TO THE CODE OF CONDUCT.

THEY CAN THERE AND NOT DO ANYTHING WHERE THERE'S A FIGHT ON THIS.

THERE'S A MOB ACTION AGAIN.

FI.

>> OR THERE'S A REAL KIND THAT IS BEING COMMITTED.

SO I FEEL AS THOUGH THEY CAN'T DO NOTHING.

WHY SHOULD THEY BE GETTING PAID 100, $180,000 A YEAR JUST TO NOT TAKE SAYS LIKE THEY ARE.

THEY'RE JUST FOR THE IMAGE LIKE.

THEY ARE GETTING PAID TO DO IS BEAT IT TO SEEM LIKE THEY ARE PARTAKING AS WHEN THEY REALLY WHEN THEY REALLY OK, FEEL LIKE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING.

IT'S IT'S NOT SO MUCH IN THE END THAT YOU'D RATHER NOT SEE THEM GET PAID THAT MUCH.

>> IN YOUR OPINION THERE, THEY'RE NOT REALLY DOING MUCH.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE EVEN JUST THAT PRESENCE I GUESS HOW DO YOU AND HOW TO GET FELLOW STUDENTS FEEL ABOUT PRESENCE OF A POLICE OFFICER JUST BEING IN THE SCHOOL?

WELL, I FEEL AS THOUGH NOW A MAJORITY OF BLACK.

STUDENTS IN OUR SCHOOL.

SO THIS TIME THAT WE'VE SEEN ON THE NEWS IN THE ARTICLE LIKE THE JEWISH QUESTION SHUN, I WE WE WOULD FEEL MORE THREATENED BY THE BY THEM.

IT FEEL LIKE THEY ARE THERE TO HELP US.

BECAUSE WHEN I SUPPOSE I WAS, I HE'S TRYING TO KILL ME OR I I'M GOING TO DEALERS GOT TO FEEL MORE THREATENED IS LIKE, OH, HE'S HERE TO HELP ME.

SO, YOU PROTECTED BY POLICE OFFICERS IN THE INTERVIEW THAT WE JUST HEARD WITH FORMER BOARD MEMBER DWAYNE TRUSS.

HE AND OTHERS ARE CRITICAL OF THE DECISION TO TAKE AWAY WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE A DECISION THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE BY YOUR LOCAL SCHOOL IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR EACH INTO EACH INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL.

>> WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT LEFT TO THE LSE?

NO.

I FEEL LIKE DUDE IS IN PARIS TO HAVE THAT AND PUT IT ON AS WILL.

>> IS WHAT THEY THINK IS RIGHT FOR US BECAUSE WE ALSO COULD USE THAT MONEY TO.

FOR OUR RESOURCES FOR NEW PROGRAMS WEST, WE HAVE TO GO TO A DIFFERENT SCHOOL TO.

LEARN ABOUT COSMETOLOGY IN ALL THE OTHER PROGRAMS WHERE WE NEED IT.

I DON'T SEE YOUR OWN FAMILY BUT ALSO HAVE SIBLINGS BUT THE CALL SO HELP REPAIR THEIR FOR THEIR FUTURE.

YOU ATTEND HIGH PARK ACADEMY DO FEEL SAFE IN GENERAL.

NO, I DON'T FEEL SAFE AT ALL.

EVEN WITH THE POLICE OFFICER SO I THOUGHT THE POLL IS MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.

BUT IF THEY WERE I FLY WITHIN THIS FAMILY IT TO.

PROGRAMS AND LIKE PEACE WE HIT PIECE ROOMS AT WILL FEEL MORE SAFER COMING TO THE PEACE ROSE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN'T GO HOME AND TALK TO THEIR PARENTS.

PEOPLE RATHER GO THERE LIKE WE HAVE.

I HAVE MORGAN OPEN EYES.

ARE THERE THAT WORKS FOR STOP.

PRETTY SANTA.

A LOT OF PEOPLE GO THERE AND TALK TO HER ABOUT THEIR PUMP, EVEN I DO BECAUSE I CAN GO ANYBODY OWES.

SO SAID THAT WHEN WE GET IN TROUBLE INSTEAD OF PUTTING PUTTING LIKE POST-OP SHOWN ANYTHING LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK TO HIM.

GO TO TO HELP US WHEN WE NEED.

AND YOU MENTIONED YOU DON'T REALLY FEEL SAFE AT YOUR SCHOOL.

WHAT?

WHAT?

WHY DON'T YOU FEEL SAFE?

WHAT MAKES YOU FEEL UNSAFE?

WILL ESPECIALLY THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND I DON'T FEEL SAFE AROUND THERE BECAUSE IS HIGH PARK.

SO LIKE IN.

MOSTLY THE POST OFFICE OR I LIKE I SAID, I FEEL THREATENED BY THE POLICE OFFICER BECAUSE IS LIKE I KEEP GETTING THESE IMAGES IN MY HEAD ABOUT THE JOYOUS WENT THEM, HIT ABOUT SO IS LIKE I DO IS SCARE LIKE YOU LIKE HOW RIGHT THE OWNERS THIS HAD LIVE ON A POLICE OFFICER TOTALLY I'M NOT A COP.

SO CAN YOU DO A THE BOARD OF EDUCATION'S DECISION?

IT MUST FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, A SATISFYING VICTORY FOR YOU DOES.

GET YOU THINKING ABOUT MAYBE OCCUR.

ERIN ORGANIZING CELEBRATING WHAT THE BOARD HAS DECIDED.

I WAS ACTUALLY VERY HAPPY WHEN ASKED.

>> BECAUSE I'M LIKE, OH, MY GET THE PROGRAMS.

WE CAN GET THE MONEY WE GET INTO THIS BECAUSE SCHOOL IS BASICALLY LIKE LAKE WHEN THE POLL YOU THERE IS GIVING SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE HAS ACCORDING A CLOSE.

THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH ABOUT HOW THE SCHOOL CONNECTS TO THE PRISON PIPELINE CAUSE FLIGHT WHEN THE OFFICER THERE.

STUDENTS ARE MORE MOST LIKELY TO GO TO JAIL BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO START CALLING ON THE OFFICERS TO DO EVERYTHING LIKE BECAUSE SOME SCHOOLS WITH POLICE OFFICERS IN SCHOOL TEND TO HAVE HIGHER RATES OF ARRESTS OF OTHER STUDENTS.

AND IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS?

AND I THAT LIKE.

EVEN IF IT'S NOT LIKE A SERIOUS CAUSE, GRUESOMELY FIND, THEY WOULD LOWS THAT WE GO TO THE POLLS.

I'VE SAID BEFORE GO TO A BUY, IT WAS PEOPLE WILL MAY BE