[♪♪♪] >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."

I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.

BRANDIS FRIEDMAN HAS THE EVENING OFF.

ON THE SHOW TONIGHT... >> WILL THIS INSTITUTION SURVIVE THE STENCH THAT THIS CREATES?

>> THE SUPREME COURT TAKES UP A CONTROVERSIAL ABORTION LAW THAT COULD POTENTIALLY OVERTURN 50 YEARS OF LEGAL PRECEDENT IN ROE VS. WADE.

>> STIGMA IS PREVENTING A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM GETTING WHAT THEY NEED.

>> 40 YEARS SINCE THE FIRST CASES OF AIDS WERE REPORTED A LOOK WHERE THE EPIDEMIC STANDS NOW.

>> TO TELL THIS EPIC STORY WE TAKE TO THE SKIES.

>> AND A NEW WTTW SPECIAL EXPLORES ILLINOIS' HISTORY AND ITS LANDSCAPE FROM THE AIR.

WE TALK WITH GEOFFREY BAER AHEAD OF TONIGHT'S PREMIER.

>> BUT FIRST, SOME OF TODAY'S TOP STORIES... >> A LONGTIME CHICAGO ALDERMAN ANNOUNCES SHE IS HANGING IT UP.

CARRIE AUSTIN WILL NOT SEEK REELECTION WHICH WOULD END A 20-YEAR RUN IN THE SEAT AFTER SHE TOOK IT OVER FROM HER LATE HUSBAND.

CARRIE AUSTIN IS UNDER FEDERAL INDICTMENT FOR ALLEGEDLY TAKING BRIBES FROM A DEVELOPER THAT SOUGHT BUSINESS IN HER WARD.

AND THE ANNOUNCEMENT COMES AS THE DEADLINE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE A NEW WARD COMES AND GOES WITHOUT ANY AGREEMENT.

SO NOW, ANY 10 ALDERPEOPLE CAN FILE A WARD MAP TO BE OUT FOR PUBLIC REFERENDUM THIS COMES AS MEMBERS OF THE RULES COMMITTEE UNVEILED THEIR MAP.

AND THAT IS ONE SUPPORTED BY THE COUNCIL'S BLACK CAUCUS.

RULES COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON MICHELLE GUNDERSON SAYS ALDERPEOPLE WILL DELAY A VOTE.

EARLIER TODAY MEMBERS OF THE LATINO CAUCUS SAY THEY FAVOR A MAP THAT INCREASES THE CITY'S LATINO MAJORITY WARDS AND THEY BLASTED THIS NEWLY RELEASED MAP.

>> THIS WOULD BE A JOKE.

IF IT WASN'T SUCH AN INCREDIBLE FAILURE AND BREACH OF TRUST.

>> AND TODAY'S SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS PRESIDED OVER BY ALDERMAN BRENDON REILLY WHO SERVES AS PRESIDENT PRO-TEM OF THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE MAYOR LORI LIGHTFOOT SPENT THE DAY ON A PRESCHEDULED TRIP TO WASHINGTON D.C. MEETING WITH MEMBERS OF ILLINOIS' DELEGATION TO TALK ABOUT NEW FEDERAL INVESTMENTS FOR THE CITY.

THE MAYOR DEFENDED MISSING TODAY'S MEETING.

>> WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO ME IS TO MAKE SURE I CONTINUE ADVOCATING FOR THE CITY OF CHICAGO ON A NATIONAL STAGE AND I'M GOOD AT MULTITASKING.

>> HEALTH OFFICIALS ANNOUNCED THEY HAVE DETECTED THE OMICRON VARIANT IN THE U.S.

THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS THE CASE WAS DISCOVERED IN CALIFORNIA AND THE PERSON WAS VACCINATED BUT NOT SHE HAVE RECEIVED THEIR BOOSTER SHOT AND TRAVELED FROM SOUTH AAFRICA ON NOVEMBER 22.

IT WAS ANNOUNCED TO BE DISCOVERED IN THAT COUNTRY BUT CASES HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED IN TWO DOZEN OTHER NATIONS AS WELL.

>> UP NEXT THE SUPREME COURT HEARS AN ABORTION CASE CHALLENGING ROE V. WADE.

PLEASE STAY WITH US.

[♪♪♪] >> Announcer: "CHICAGO TONIGHT" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY... >> THE U.S. SUPREME COURT HEARD A CONTROVERSIAL CASE TODAY THAT COULD POTENTIALLY OVERTURN ROE VS. WADE THE LANDMARK 1973 DECISION THAT GAVE WOMEN THE RIGHT TO HAVE AN ABORTION UP TO 24 WEEKS OF PREGNANCY CONSIDERED WHEN A FETUS IS VIABLE.

HERE IS AUDIO FROM TODAY'S ORAL ARGUMENTS.

>> YOUR FIRST QUESTION AND THE ONLY ONE ON WHICH WE GRANTED REVIEW WAS WHETHER ALL PREVIABILITY PROHIBITIONS ON ELECTIVE ABORTIONS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY WHEN YOU GOT TO THE BRIEF ON THE MERITS YOU SHIFTED GEARS AND TALKED A LOT MORE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT ROE AND CASEY SHOULD BE OVERRULED.

>> THE HARDER QUESTIONS ARE SHOULD THE COURT OVERRULE AND TAKE THAT MOMENTUS STEP?

AND THAT IS WHY WE DEVOTE A LOT OF SPACE TO THAT IMPORTANT ISSUE.

>> AND JOINING US ARE ANN SCHEIDLER PRESIDENT OF PRO-LIFE ACTION LEAGUE AND COORDINATOR OF THE OVERTURN ROE.ORG COALITION.

GEOFFREY STONE AT THE SCHOOL OF LAW AND CLERK FORWARD BRENNAN WAS ROE IN 1973.

PETER BREEN VICE-PRESIDENT AND SENIOR COUNCIL WITH THE THOMAS MOORE AND CAROLYN SHAPIRO PROFESSOR AT KENT COLLEGE OF LAW AND THE CODIRECTOR OF THE SCHOOL'S INSTITUTE ON THE SUPREME COURT AND SHE IS ALSO A FORMER CLERK FOR JUSTICE STEVEN BREYER.

CAROLYN SHAPIRO LET ME START WITH YOU.

TELL US WHAT THIS CASE IS ABOUT IN A NUTSHELL?

>> THE CASE IS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT MISSISSIPPI'S BAN ON ABORTION AFTER 15 WEEKS IS CONSTITUTIONAL.

BUT AS YOU HEARD IN THE CLIP, WHAT MISSISSIPPI HAS ASKED THE COURT TO DO IS GO FURTHER THAN UPHOLDING THAT LAW WHICH UNDOUBTEDLY THEY ARE GOING TO DO.

AND TO OVERRULE ROE ENTIRELY.

TO ELIMINATE THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION FOR WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS.

>> AND GEOFFREY STONE YOU WERE A CLERK TO JUSTICE BRENNAN WHEN ROE WAS DECIDED.

TALK ABOUT WHY THAT COURT DECIDED THE CASE THE WAY IT DID, GIVEN THE FACT THAT FIVE OF THE SIX REPUBLICAN APPOINTED JUSTICES VOTED WITH THE MAJORITY?

>> WELL, TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, ONE THING THE JUSTICES CAME TO UNDERSTAND NOT POPULARLY UNDERSTOOD IS THAT ABORTION WAS LEGAL IN THE ANCIENT WORLD UP TO THE TIME THE CONSTITUTION WAS ADOPTED AND IT WAS LEGAL IN EVERY STATE IN THE UNITED STATES AT THAT TIME.

AND IT WAS ASSUMED TO BE AN ORDINARY RIGHT THAT WOMEN HAD.

THAT WAS ONE THING THE JUSTICES CAME TO UNDERSTAND.

THE SECOND WAS THAT BECAUSE OF ABORTION HAS BEEN ILLEGAL SINCE THE LATE 19TH CENTURY FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS PEOPLE DID NOT SPEAK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES BECAUSE IT WAS A CRIME.

AND IN THE LATE 1960s WITH THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT WOMEN BEGAN SPEAKING OUT AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH ILLEGAL ABORTION WAS.

AND IT WAS TRULY HORRENDOUS.

IT WAS BACK ALLEY AB.S, SELF ABORTION.

MANY WOMEN DIED FROM THESE EXPERIENCES AND THE JUSTICES LEARNED ABOUT THIS AND READ ABOUT IT, AND THEY CAME TO UNDERSTAND THIS WAS A FUNDAMENTAL INJUSTICE IN OUR SOCIETY.

EQUIVALENT IN SOME WAYS TO SEPARATE BUT EQUAL.

IT WAS A COMPLETE DISCRIMINATION AGAINST WOMEN AND THE FREEDOM AND THE CLICHE WAS IF YOU MEN COULD GET PREGNANT ABORTION WOULD BE LEGAL.

>> AN UNDERSTANDING FROM THE JUSTICES.

PETER BREEN THIS MISSISSIPPI LAW IS BANNING ABORTIONS AT 15 WEEKS.

ALTHOUGH CAROLYN SHAPIRO MENTIONS THE STATE WANTS TO GO FURTHER THAN THAT AND OVERTURN ROE VS. WADE.

WHY 15 WEEKS WHY IS THAT THE MISSISSIPPI LAW?

>> YOU ARE ON MUTE, PETER?

STILL HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU.

OK PETER WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU.

ANN SCHEIDLER I WILL POSE THAT QUESTION TO YOU WHY 15 WEEKS?

>> 15 WEEKS IS PLENTY OF TIME FOR A WOMAN TO HAVE FOUND OUT SHE WAS PREGNANT.

I MEAN YOU KNOW I KNOW SOME STATES HAVE TRIGGER LAWS IN PLACE TO BAN ABORTIONS MUCH EARLIER THAN THAT.

AND THE ARGUMENT AGAINST THAT FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW YOU MIGHT NOT REALIZE YOU ARE PREGNANT YET.

15 WEEKS GIVES YOU PLENTY OF TIME TO HAVE FOUND OUT YOU ARE IN FACT CARRYING A BABY.

SO THAT I GUESS IS PROBABLY WHY THEY SETTLED IT AT 15 WEEKS.

>> AND THE U.S.

SOLICITOR GENERAL ARGUED TODAY SAID THE REAL WORLD EFFECT OF OVERRULING ROE AND CASEY WOULD BE SEVERE AND SWIFT.

CAROLYN SHAPIRO WHAT COULD THE REAL WORLD EFFECTS BE NOT JUST LEGAL -- PROHIBITING ABORTION AFTER 15 WEEKS, COULD IT BE BEYOND THAT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THERE ARE MANY, MANY STATES THAT HAVE TRIGGER LAWS THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT INSTANTLY IF ROE IS OVERRULED THAT COULD BAN ABORTION ENTIRELY.

WE WILL SEE ENORMOUS SHIFT IN THE AVAILABILITY OF THIS KIND OF HEALTHCARE FOR WOMEN AROUND THE COUNTRY.

SOME STATES LIKE ILLINOIS HAVE LAWS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO PROTECT ACCESS TO ABORTIONS.

BUT MANY, MANY STATES DO NOT.

AND IN FACT HAVE LAWS THAT WILL IMMEDIATELY GO INTO EFFECT.

THERE WILL BE A DRAMATIC CHANGE IN THE EXPERIENCE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING THAT KIND OF HEALTHCARE.

>> AND ILLINOIS IS ONE OF THE STATES THAT HAS THE TRIGGER LAW THE OTHER WAY, THAT ABORTION WOULD BE LEGAL HERE IN ILLINOIS.

GEOFFREY STONE ROE IS A 50-PRECEDENT AND SCOTUS HAS OVERTURNED THE PRECEDENT.

HOW LEGIT IS OVERTURN PRECEDENT?

>> I THINK THE COURT DOES OVERTURN PRECEDENT IN FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES.

THE EXAMPLE THAT KAVANAUGH GAVE ALMOST ALWAYS THROUGH ALMOST TO RECOGNIZE THAT [INAUDIBLE] THAT DENIED CRIMINAL DEFENDANTS A RIGHT TO COUNSEL OR THAT ALLOWED POLICE TO INTERROGATE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACCUSED OF CRIME WITHOUT GIVING THEM WARNING OF THEIR RIGHTS OR ALLOWED TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE SEIZED IN UNLAWFUL SEARCH AND SEIZURE.

THESE WERE ALL KAVANAUGH RATTLED OFF IT DOES IT IN A WAY THAT EXPANDS THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF OUR CITIZENS.

>> THAT IS AN ARGUMENT -- >> OVERTURNING ROE WILL EXPAND THE RIGHTS OF UNBORN RIGHTS OF THE CHILD WHOSE RIGHTS HAVE BEEN IGNORED FOR 49 YEARS.

YOU HAVE BEEN AN INJUSTICE IN PLACE FAR, FAR TOO LONG AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN AT THE MERCY OF LOTS AND LOTS OF PRESSURES THAT PUSH WOMEN INTO CHOOSING ABORTION WHEN THERE ARE PLENTY OF VIABLE OPTIONS AVAILABLE.

AND THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT IS PRIMED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE WOMEN THE SUPPORT AND THE HELP THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO CHOOSE LIFE SO MOTHER AND BABY BOTH GET A CHANCE TO LIVE.

>> PETER BREEN, CAROLYN SHAPIRO -- [ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> I WANT TO GET PETER BREEN BACK.

CAROLYN SHAPIRO IS MENTIONING SHE BELIEVES THE COURT WILL OVERTURN ROE V. WADE IS THERE A DECISION THAT WOULD AND NARROW AND DECIDE ON THE 52-WEEK-WEEK LAW?

>> CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS TRIED TO GET AT THAT.

BUT IT APPEARS, BOTH THE FOLKS ON THE ABORTION SIDE AND THE FOLKS ON THE PRO-LIFE SIDE AGREED THE COURT'S GOT TO STRIKE THE 15-WEEK LAW OR STRIKE THE ROE AND CASEY FRAMEWORK.

THERE WAS SOMETHING OF AN AGREEMENT THERE.

AND WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE WAY THE JUSTICES WERE DOING THEIR QUESTIONING IT DOES APPEAR THEY WERE LEANING THE MAJORITY IS LEANING TOWARD STRIKING ROE AND CASEY.

I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE POINTS THE MISSISSIPPI SOLICITOR GENERAL MADE WE HAVE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF MILLIONS OF ABORTIONS.

AND THERE ARE CERTAINLY ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF FOLKS WHO HAD BEEN PRO-CHOICE LIKE RONALD REAGAN HAVE BEEN PRO-CHOICE AND SAW THE OUTCOME TO HAVE OVER THE PAST YEARS AND THEN CHANGED THEIR POSITION.

SO THAT WAS OFFERED BY THE MISSISSIPPI SOLICITOR GENERAL AS WELL.

THE HISTORICAL RECORD THIS WAS BROUGHT UP, HAS BEEN CORRECTED SINCE 1973 THROUGH MORE DEEP RESEARCH WHERE ABORTION WAS OUTLAWED IN MOST OF THE STATES IN THE UNION AT THE TIME THAT WE ENACTED THE 14TH AMENDMENT SOMETHING THAT GOING BACK TO ENGLISH COMMON LAW ABORTION WAS NOT BLESSED IT WAS FROWNED UPON FOR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

ALL OF THAT TOGETHER, I WOULD SAY ONE THING, EVEN DURING THE ARGUMENT TODAY FOLKS WERE NOT TRYING TO DEFEND THE LOGIC OF ROE AND CASEY BUT TO SAY WELL THEY HAVE BEEN IN PLACE SO LEAVE THEM IN PLACE LESS THEY WERE CORRECTLY DECIDED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>> I WOULD PROFOUNDLY DISAGREE WITH THAT THE DESCRIPTION OF THE ARGUMENT AND I WANT TO PICK UP ON WHAT ANN SCHEIDLER SAID WHICH IS WHEN SHE RESPONDS TO THE IDEA THIS WOULD BE RESTRICT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS SHE SAID NO IT WOULD EXPAND THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF UNBORN.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE AGENDA HERE IN THE LONG RUN IS ACTUALLY NOT TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE STATE WHICH IS WHAT THE RHETORIC AROUND REVERSING ROE VS. WADE IS GENERALLY BUT TO GO FURTHER AND DECLARE THAT A FETUS OR EMBRYO IS A HUMAN BEING THAT IS A PERSON UNDER DUE PROCESS CLAUSE AND THE EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE WHICH WOULD HAVE MASSIVE -- [INAUDIBLE] [ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> ANN, SINCE I WILL SILL A STATE THAT DOES PERMIT ABORTIONS ARE YOU SAYING THIS DECISION COULD OPEN UP ILLINOIS' LAW TO BE CHALLENGED?

>> LOOK, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO CHANGE ILLINOIS' LAW.

IT IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.

OVERTURNING ROE WON'T AFFECT ILLINOIS FOR NOW.

THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT IS NOT WALKING AWAY.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 49 YEARS.

I'M NOT QUITTING AND I'M ALREADY OLDER.

WE HAVE LOTS OF YOUNGER PEOPLE COMING UP AND WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT FOR THE UNBORN CHILD UNTIL EVERY CHILD IS PROTECTED.

>> THIS IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION THAT CONTINUES POSSIBLY A DECISION IN THE SUMMER.

THANKS TO ANN SCHEIDLER, GEOFFREY STONE, PETER BREEN AND CAROLYN SHAPIRO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AMID THE COVID PANDEMIC THERE IS AN ONGOING EPIDEMIC.

HIV/AIDS AS WITH EVERY DECEMBER FIRST TODAY IS WORLD AIDS DAY.

AMANDA VINICKY JOINS US WITH A LOOK AT WHAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE AND THE CHALLENGES AHEAD WHEN IT COMES TO HIV.

AMANDA?

>> YES, PARIS, IT HAS BEEN 40 YEARS SINCE THE FIRST CASES OF WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS HIV/AIDS WERE FIRST REPORTED IN THAT TIME, 700,000 PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE DIED.

BACK IN 1981, Dr. CATHY CRETICOS WAS GRADUATING FROM MEDICAL SCHOOL AND SHE WAS SERVING AS AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE FELLOW AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS CHICAGO ONE OF SENTENCE SITES AND THE ONLY ONE IN THE MIDWEST SELECTED TO STUDY THE ANTIVIRAL DRUG AZT.

>> TO THIS DAY I REMEMBER MY PATIENTS EXTREMELY WELL BECAUSE IT WAS MY FIRST ENCOUNTER WITH PEOPLE WHO HAD SO MANY DIFFERENT -- THEY CAME FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

BUT THEY ALL HAD A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN THEIR LIFE.

AND OF COURSE THEY WERE DEALING WITH A DEADLY DISEASE.

AND WHICH THEY ALL EVENTUALLY SUCCUMBED TO.

>> THERE WAS A WOMAN IN HER 30s A BANKING EXECUTIVE WHO LIVED ON LAKE SHORE DRIVE WHO HAD GOTTEN HIV FROM HER PARTNER DEFYING STEREOTYPES AT THE TIME.

A MAN WHO KEPT A POSITIVE ATTITUDE AS HE WENT BLIND FROM AN INFECTION THAT KILLED HIM.

>> AFTER I LEFT THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS, I CAME TO ILLINOIS MASONIC HOSPITAL WHICH WAS THE FIRST INPATIENT HIV/AIDS WARD.

AND WE HAD 35 BEDS THAT WERE DEDICATED JUST TO HIV PATIENTS AND THEY WERE ALWAYS FULL.

SO YOU KNOW WE WOULD BE STAYING LATE INTO THE EVENING EVERYDAY WITH THESE VERY CHALLENGING PATIENTS AND DEATH EVERYDAY.

>> DESPITE THE DEATHS Dr. CATHY CRETICOS WAS INSPIRED TO WORK WITH THE PATIENTS AND LEARNED WHAT A PROVIDER COULD DO AND THEN THE DRUGS DID BEGIN TO WORK.

AND THE RATE OF DEATHS DECREASED.

NOW, SHE IS BEEN WORKING WITH PATIENTS FOR 25-30 YEARS AND SAYS THEY ARE DOING FINE.

WHEN A NEWLY POSITIVE PATIENT COMES IN NOW SHE TALKS ABOUT THE HOPEFUL SITUATION THAT THEY ARE IN TODAY.

>> THAT WE CAN RESTORE THEM TO HEALTH.

WE CAN GET THEM ALMOST NORMAL LIFE EXPECTANCY.

THAT THEY CAN HAVE FULL RELATIONSHIPS.

THEY CAN HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE SAFE AND THEY CAN HAVE FAMILY.

BIOLOGICAL FAMILY.

>> THAT IS LARGELY THANKS TO DRUGS.

ILLINOIS NOW REQUIRES MOST INSURERS COVER PREP THE PREVENTION DRUG GIVEN TO THOSE AT HIGH-RISK.

STATE LAW REPEALS A STATUTE THAT CRIMINALIZED WHEN SOMEBODY HAD UNPROTECTED SEXUAL RELATIONS WITHOUT DISCLOSING THEIR HIV STATUS.

TODAY CHICAGO PREVIEWED A ANY AIDS GARDEN SET TO OPEN THIS SPRING.

IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCED FUNDING FOR HOUSING FOR LOW INCOME PERSONS LIVING WITH HIV OR AIDS.

THE DIRECT BRANDI CALVERT SAYS THAT WILL MEAN 40 NEW HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE IN THE CHICAGO AREA.

>> WITHOUT ADEQUATE HOUSING PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO FOCUS ON THEIR HEALTH NEEDS.

WITHOUT A STABLE HOME YOU DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO STORE YOUR MEDICATIONS.

YOU DON'T HAVE A PLACE WITH WHICH TO PLAN OUT THE ACTIVITIES FOR YOUR LIFE.

>> OFTEN HOMELESSNESS IS PRECIPITATED BU A MEDICAL SITUATION OR EMERGENCY.

SHE SAYS THE NEED FOR HOUSING SUPPORTS STILL VERY MUCH OUTWEIGHS THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING FOR IT.

NOW, GOING FORWARD, THE WHITE HOUSE DOES HAVE A GOAL OF ENDING AIDS AS A HEALTH THREAT BY THE YEAR 2030.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE GOAL IS TO HAVE NO NEW CASES BY THAT POINT.

Dr. CATHY CRETICOS SAYS IT IS POSSIBLE.

BUT SHE SAYS THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE MORE TESTING, MORE ACCESS TO CARE AND MORE PREVENTION.

>> DESOCIAL DISTANCING MY HIV TESTING, DESTIGMATIZE HAVING HIV AND JUST REMEMBER IT IS NOT A PROBLEM LIKE SO MANY OTHERS AND WE HAVE EFFECTIVE TREATMENT AND STIGMA IS PREVENTING A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM GETTING WHAT THEY NEED.

WE NEED TO DESTIGMATIZE IT.

STILL 40 YEARS INTO THIS WE STILL HAVE TO DO THAT.

>> IF YOU ARE AT YOUR ANNUAL CHECKUP AND THE DOCTOR ASKS TO TEST YOU DO NOT BE OFFENDED THAT IS A KEY PART OF PREVENTION AND THAT DESTIGMAIZATION.

>> THANK YOU.

AND UP NEXT, WTTW'S LATEST SPECIAL RETURNS TO THE SKIES.

BUT FIRST WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE WEATHER... >> CHICAGO MAYBE KNOWN FOR ITS SKYLINE BUT THE REST OF THE STATE IS ALSO MARKED BY BREATHTAKING VIEWS FROM THE STATE PARK AND THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER TO THE ABRAHAM LINCOLN NATIONAL CEMETERY.

GEOFFREY BAER'S LATEST SPECIAL EXPLORES ILLINOIS' LANDSCAPE AND LANDMARKS FROM THE AIR USING DRONE FOOTAGE TO TAKE VIEWERS ACROSS THE STATE.

HERE IS A CLIP FROM BEYOND CHICAGO FROM THE AIR.

>> IN AN 1886 INTERVIEW WITH THE TRIBUNE, MARK TWAIN SAID IT IS STRANGE HOW LITTLE HAS BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI.

THE RIVER BELOW ST. LOUIS HAS BEEN DESCRIBED TIME AND AGAIN AND IT'S THE LEAST INTERESTING PART.

ALONG THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI, EVERY HOUR BRINGS SOMETHING NEW.

THERE ARE CROWDS OF ODD ISLANDS.

BLUFFS.

PRAIRIES.

HILLS, WOODS AND VILLAGES.

EVERYTHING ONE COULD DESIRE TO AMUSE THE CHILDREN.

>> AND BEYOND CHICAGO FROM THE AIR PREMIERS TONIGHT AFTER THIS SHOW.

BUT GEOFFREY JOINS US NOW.

GEOFFREY BAER GREAT TO SEE YOU IN-PERSON.

>> IN THE STUDIO.

>> YOU BEGIN THE SPECIAL INSPIRED BY THAT MARK TWAIN QUOTE EXPLORING THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

WHY?

>> IT WAS GREAT TO TALK ABOUT THINGS I'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IN MY SHOWS NOTABLY THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

YOU KNOW, THE LURE OF MISSISSIPPI AND YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT MARK TWAIN AND IF YOU TALK ABOUT MARK TWAIN YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT HANNAH BILL MISSOURI.

WE SHOT A WIND FARM THIS CRAZY HOUSE IN OAK PARK AND THE DRONE GIVES YOU THE CONTEXT OF HOW THAT HOUSE LOOKS.

HERE IS THE INDIANA DUNES.

WE GOT TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO SOME THINGS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND SEE IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FROM THE AIR.

WE WENT TO JOLIET PRISON ONE OF THE FACTS THE PRISONERS THEMSELVES QUARRIED THE STONE AND WERE LIKE WALLING THEMSELVES IN.

I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THINGS I NEVER GOTTEN TO EXPLORE >> THE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES LEAD US TO GREAT UNKNOWN FACTS OR FORGOTTEN FACTS.

TELL US ABOUT THE DRONES USED TO CAPTURE THAT FOOTAGE?

>> I DIDN'T WANT THIS TO BE VIDEO WALLPAPER.

SO OUR DRONE CAMERA CREW HAS A BIG DRONE AND THEY CAN SHOOT THE BIG SWEEPING SHOTS AND THIS IS FIRST PERSON VIEW WHERE THE DRONE CAMERA PUTS ON GOGGLES AND FIES LIKE IN A VIDEO GAME.

AND THESE ARE THE TEMPLE LIPISONS IN THE NORTHWEST REGION AND THE CHAIN OF LAKES.

WE GOT TO USE THIS FIRST PERSON.

THAT IS SKI JUMPING IN FOX RIVER GROVE AND WE SHOT IN SEVERAL SEASONS.

YOU SAW THE -- THERE'S JOLIET PRISON AND YOU SAW THE FALL COLORS AND SHOT SNOWMOBILING RACING IN THE WINTER AND THE SKI JUMPING.

I WANTED TO HAVE EXCITING FOOTAGE.

>> I WISH WE HAD WTTW 3D OR META WE COULD EXPERIENCE THAT.

YOU ARE -- IT'S NOT ALL FUN AND GAMES.

YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE DARKER PARTS OF ILLINOIS' HISTORY.

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

>> I THINK WE WANT TO TELL A FULL STORY.

YOU KNOW, NATIVE-AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE NOT WELL TREATED.

AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT NATIVE-AMERICAN HISTORY AND INDIGENOUS HISTORY IN THIS SHOW.

WE TALK ABOUT BLACKHAWK OUR HOCKEY TEAM IS THE BLACKHAWKS BUT THE FIGURE BLACKHAWK THE WARRIOR, WAS VERY MISTREATED HE WAS BANISHED WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI BY A TREATY.

HE TRIED TO COME BACK AND PLANT CROPS ON HIS LAND WHICH HAD BEEN TAKEN BY SETTLERS.

AND THE MILITIA WAS MUSTARDED AND HE WAS CHASED DOWN AND PEOPLE WERE SLAUGHTERED TRYING TO FLEE BACK ACROSS THE MISSISSIPPI AND PARADED AROUND THE COUNTRY INCLUDING A VISIT TO ANDREW JACKSON, THE ANTI-INDIAN PRESIDENT.

>> THERE IS A LOT TO LEARN AND VIEWERS SIT TIGHT IT WILL BE IN FULL IN A FEW MINUTES.

GEOFFREY BAER THANK YOU.

>> GLAD TO BE HERE.

>> AND BEYOND "CHICAGO FROM THE AIR" PREMIERS IN A FEW MINUTES RIGHT HERE ON WTTW.

BE SURE TO CHECK OUT WTTW.COM/BEYOND CHICAGO FOR MORE INCLUDING A MAP OF ALL THE SITES FEATURED IN THE SPECIAL.

AND WE'RE BACK TO WRAP THINGS UP RIGHT AFTER THIS.

>> Announcer: "CHICAGO TONIGHT" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY... >> AND THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS WEDNESDAY NIGHT ABBREVIATED TO BRING YOU BEYOND "CHICAGO FROM THE AIR".

AND JOIN US TOMORROW NIGHT LIVE AT 7:00 P.M. PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNS THE FIRST BILL IN THE MOMNIBUS PACKAGE ADDRESSING MATERNAL MORTALITY AND OUR "IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERIES" SERIES FEATURES A POP-UP SHOT PREPARING FOR THE HOLIDAYS.

FOR ALL OF US HERE AT "CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.

STAY HEALTHY AND SAFE AND HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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