Donnybrook
December 21, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 70 | 27m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Sarah Fenske, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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December 21, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 70 | 27m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Sarah Fenske, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BE THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND TH >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION OF "DONNYBROOK."
LET'S HOPE OUR PANELIST WITH CONSPIRACY THE DARKNESS WITH THEIR WISDOM.
STARTING WITH WENDY WIESE KTRS.
SARAH FENSKE.
RAY HARTMAN FOUNDER OF RIVER FRONT TIMES.
THEN FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, ALVIN REID.
THAT IS THAT WENDY WIESE THIS WEEK ANNOUNCED WILL BE INDUCTED INTO THE MISSOURI'S BROADCASTERS HALL OF FAME IN 2024.
CONGRATULATIONS.
A MISTAKE HAS BEEN MADE ADMINISTRATIVELY.
ATTENTION.
>> HE SAID LOCK HER UP!
>> WE MADE THE NATIONAL NEWS, ST. LOUIS DID.
NBC, NEW YORK POST, "NEW YORK TIMES" LOOKING AT A STORY THAT YOU SEEN POLICE CAR JUST MONDAY MORNING A 12:20, WENT INTO A BAR ON SOUTH BROADWAY.
CRASHED THERE.
IT HASN'T HAPPENED EVERYDAY.
BUT, THEY ARRESTED THE BAR OWNER.
HAS BEEN CHARGED NOW WITH MISDEMEANOR ASSAULT.
IS THERE ANY VIDEO COVERAGE TO TELL US THAT THERE WAS AN ASSAULT?
OVERALL, THE POL SAID ANYTHING REALLY ABOUT THIS.
YOU WOULD THINK GIVEN THE ATTENTION THIS STORY HAS RECEIVED, THE CHIEF OF POLICE IN THE CITY WOULD DO SOMETHING.
SAY SOMETHING.
> HE'S LAYING VERY LOW.
HIS REPUTATION AS A GUY THAT LAYS LOW.
HE'S PROACTIVE AND FRIENDLY AND OUT THERE IN THE COMMU HE SEEMS T HE CAN TO WHIP THAT DEPARTMENT IN SHAPE.
SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
EVEN JUST TO SAY, SERIOUSLY.
GOVERNOR PARSONS SAID, I THINK THEY SHOULD RELE CAM FOOTAGE.
HE WENT FARTHER THAN MAYOR AND THE POLICE CHIEF.
>> IT WAS BIZARRE.
AS Y NORMALLY ACCESSIBLE.
IT'S REALLY NOT COOL THAT HE HASN'T SAID ANYTHING.
CHARGED LIKE HITTING THE POLICE CAR WITH HIS STORE.
AT SOME POIN THING WE'VE HEARD OF CONSEQUENCE, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT ASSAULT THE COP.
REALLY?
>> THERE'S SOME VIDEO THAT MY REPORTER WAS ABLE TO VIEW.
THIS SEEMS TO SHOW PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE INTERACTION.
HE REACTS TO HIS PARTNER BEING HANDCUFFED.
BECAUSE HE PUSHED ANYBODY, HE CREATED A DISTURBANCE.
HE WAS REA WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS.
>> AFTER THE >> AFTER THEY HIT HIS BAR.
>> EXACTLY.
>> THERE'S GOT TO BE MORE TO THE STORY.
GO TO THESE NATIONAL NEWS OUTLETS.
UNBELIEVABLE.
I THOUGHT, THIS IS SO CITY IN THE WEST IN 1823.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, THE VIDEO, THE SURVEILLANCE VIDEO OF THE CAR HITTING OUT.
THAT.
TAKEN BY A BYSTANDER RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC SO WE CAN MAKE SOME ACCURATE OPINIONS ON THIS?
>> ATTORNEYS HAD COME TOGETHER FROM ACROSS THE UN THEY WERE SAYING ST. LOUIS THING BUT A NATIONAL THING.
SAID, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A LIBERAL TOWN A CONSERVATIVE TOWN, THIS OR THAT HE SAID GET TO SEE THAT, IMMEDIATELY, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
I'M THINKING THERE MUST BE SOME INSURANCE MANIFESTO.
>> THE BYSTANDER VIDEO.
WHICH IS BEING S REPORTERS BUT NOT PUBLIC.
HE'S PLAYING THE LONG GAME HER HE INTENDS TO GET A VERY F SETTLEMENT FROM THE CITY.
MANY PEOPLE JOKED, THERE GOES THE RAMS MONEY.
HE HE HAS A VERY GO THE POLICE HAVE NOT DONE THEMSELVES BY FAVORS B TO RELEASE THE VIDEO.
IF YOU VEERS TO HIT NOTHING.
KIND OF SEEM BAR.
THEY DIDN'T GIVE TOXICOLOGY TEST TO THE DRI THEY S REASONABLE SUSPICION THAT THE OFFICER WAS >> I'M I BET ANYTHING THEY WILL RUN A TOXICOLOGY TEST.
FIRST ASSUMPTION IS, YOU'RE GOING TO T IT HAS TO BE IT.
>> THE FELLA WHO OWNS THE BAR, WHO ENDED UP IN JAIL, 36 OR SO HOURS.
HIS BODY.
DID HE GET THOSE HE GET THOSE BEFORE HE WENT TO JAIL?
WENT TO JAIL.
THE OFFICER ON THE SCE REACTING VIOLENTLY.
>&g RELEASED.
>> THAT ALLEGEDLY HAPPENED IN THE GANG VIDEO.
&g HAPPENED IN THE CITY J CENTER WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEATEN ROUTINELY, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CITY WOULDN'T BE LIABLE EITHER CASE.
THIS IS THE KIND OF STORY POLICE CAR RUNS INTO -- CRASHES INTO GAY BAR.
STORY.
NEWS.
WE HAVE SUCH A DIFFICULT REPUTATION TO PUT IT NICELY.
IF DOESN'T HELP TO ADD ONE MORE THING WHEN IT'S ST. LOUIS.
IT MAY NOT BE FAIR -- >> IT'S NOT IT'S OUR FAULT BEC TALK ABOUT THE HEROICS OF THE POLICE AND GREAT THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
IT'S >> PEOPLE THINK THE ONLY TIME POLICE REACT IS IN A BAD SITUATION.
CAPITAL THAT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY.
I'M JUST PERSPECTIVE.
ANOTHER NATIONAL STORY.
WHICH ACTUALLY I THAN THIS BAR IN THE CAR.
THAT IS THE NURSIN LARGEST NURSING HOME IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, NORTHVIEW, 170 RESIDENTS TRANSFERRED WITHOUT NOTICE, ALL 175 EMPLOYEES FIRED ON FRIDAY.
THE RESIDENCE BELONG LEFT BEHIND.
GOING.
AT LEAST ONE NEWS OUTLET F ONE OF THE RESIDENTS WALKING THE STREETS.
ESTABLISHMENT BEHIND BARS?
>> HOPEFULLY, HE OR SHE WILL BE BEHIND BARS VERY SOON.
THIS HAPPENED TO MY MOTHER AFTER MY LATE MOTHER AFTER THE HURRICANE.
STATE.
WE DIDN'T KN LITTLE ABOUT WHERE ESH SHE WAS GOING.
THEY CAN'T FIND THEIR LOVED ONES.
NOT TO K WITH THEM IN THAT MOMENT.
THERE HAD BEEN 12 STATE VIOLATIONS SINCE 2021.
WHAT WAS REALLY SAD WAS A FEW OF THE WORKERS WERE QUOTED IF THE PAPER SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR DIRECT DEPOSIT ON THURSDAY BUT ON FRIDAY, HOPING THAT MAY BE THERE HAD BEEN SOME TECHNICAL PROBLEM.
THEY FOUND O THAT'S SUCH A VIOLATION OF TRUST.
>> THEY HAD THE CHRISTMAS PARTY LIKE THE DAY BEFORE THEY FOUND OUT THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO GET PAID.
TO GET PAID.
>> THIS WAS THEIR CHRISTMAS MONEY.
MEDICAID PATIENTS.
PER YEAR DEFICIT.
OKAY, I KNOW I SAID THIS BEFORE.
BUT THE CITY IS $260 MIL RAMS DOLLAR FROM THE SETTLEMENT.
WHY NOT SUBSIDIZE THIS ENTERPRISE.
NURSING HOME BY A SHYSTER.
>> MEDICAID PAYMENTS -- >> ALLEGED.
>&g LOW.
DIFFER FROM THE HALL OF FAME, I WILL SAY BEFORE WE START SAYING CRIMINALITY, I DON'T KNOW WILL BE.
IT IS BEYOND I GOOD FOR MAYOR TISHAURA JONES OUT THERE.
HAVING A BULLY PULPIT.
MAY BE ALL SHE CAN DO.
IN TERMS OF CRIMINALIT DON'T KNOW.
MY IT'S NOT A PRACTICAL USE -- IT'S NOT A PRACTICAL SOLUTION.
I I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT'S A FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY AND YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, HERE'S SOMETHING OUTRAGEOUS.
LET'S THROW MONEY AT IT.
IT'S HORRIBLE.
I THINK WE >> THERE'S A CIVIL PURSUIT.
HEY, TO THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY IF THEY TOOK MY LOVE ONE TOOK THEM NO PLACE WHERE I HAD NO IDEA WHERE THEY WERE, THAT'S KIDNAPPING.
>> I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT.
>> KIDNAPPING DEMANDS MONEY.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
-- SETTLEMENT, THERE ARE REPORTS THIS WEEK THAT MEGAN G THE MAYOR TISHAURA JONES SEEMS TO IN SORT OF INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNT AND WILL LIV INTEREST.
YEAR WILL GO TO VARIOUS PROJECTS.
IMAGINATION?
JUST STOCKING THE MONEY.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT, THE WORD ENDOWMENT USED TO BE CHARMING TO ME.
LIKE IT.
BECA CHARGING FORTUNE FOR COLLEGE WOULD BRAG THEY HAVE HUGE ENDOWMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE HANDING OUT LIKE THIS MONEY FOR THIS PROGRAM AND THAT MONEY FOR IN PROG HOW ABOUT WE DO SOMETHING WITH THE MONEY IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.
LET DO THAT.
I WASN'T IN REMEMBER WHAT I SAID.
I SAID WHAT WAS MY TIMELINE.
IF THEY HAVEN'T TOLD ME A PL BY JANUARY 1st -- I SAY, IF WE GET TO JANUARY 1 AND THERE'S NO ANNOUNCEMENT OF THIS IS THE PLAN FOR THE MONEY, I AM COMP NO I'M ALL FOR IT.
>> THE PROBLEM IS, WHY TH EY DO SOMETHING NICE FOR EVERYONE IN THE CITY OF ST LOUIS WITH THIS $250 MILLION.
THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO DO SOMETHING NI $250 MILLION IS ACTUALLY NOT THAT MUCH MONEY.
IT'S NOT.
NEED.
REPAY ONE THIRD OF THE CITY OR, WE CAN PUT IT IN THIS FUND W IT WOULD HELP US WITH ALL THESE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.
WE CAN'T DO AN THIS ANYWAY.
TO LIVE HERE.
>> I DON'T THINK THE EN TODAY IS A B THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE CO IT REMAINS -- I THREW OUT AN IDEA.
ABOUT THE SPECIFICS, IT WAS A CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT WILL PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE AN ONGOING.
PAY.
SOMETHING.
WHICH COULD HAVE H THOUGH THERE WASN'T POLITICAL WI HAVE THE CITY COUN SOMETHING, I SUGGEST SOME MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES.
MY CRITERI IT WILL BE SOMETHI WOULDN'T DO OTHERWISE.
THEY JUST NO ONE -- THERE'S NO IMAGINATION OR LEADERSHIP.
>> IT'S NOT REALLY IMAGINATION.
IT HAS BEEN TRIED OR IT'S BEEN DONE FOR YEARS.
MINERAL RICH PLACES LIKE WYOMI AND ALASKA AND TEXAS.
I DON'T THINK OF CRIME CAPITOLS WHEN I THINK OF THOSE THREE STATES.
FACE IN WYOMING AND ALASKA.
AS MUCH AS THIS IS CER SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD INVESTMENT, I THINK WE HAVE PRESSING ISSUES.
>> YOU KNOW RAY HARTMAN, SPEAKING OF MONEY.
DEAN PLOCHER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE IN JEFFERSON CITY, TOOK $60,000.
TOOK DEN WITH EXPENSIVE FURNITURE.
THIS IS THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT HASN'T ADEQUATELY FUNDED MEDICAID.
GUYS HAVE TO HAVE TO A DRINK DON'T THEY?
>> FROM 40,000 FEET, THE MOST ALARMING THING IS DEAN PLOCHER ISN'T ONE OF THE CRAZY ONES.
HAVING SAID THAT, I'M TRYING TO THINK, I GUESS YOU COULD HAVE WORSE OPTICS THAT'S SPENDING BUNCH OF MONEY.
SPENDING THE MONEY THAT'S ON FURNITURE THAT SOUNDS REALLY EXPENSIVE AND A BAR ACROSS FROM THE HOUSE LOUNGE, IF THERE'S A -- IF HIS GOAL WAS TO HAVE THE WORST POSSIBLE OPTICS HOW TO SPEND THIS MONEY, DEAN PLOCHER HAS SUCCEEDED.
>&g >> I'M KIDDING.
HE'S SUCCE >> HE SPENT $60, MONEY FOR A ROOM.
>> WOULDN'T YOU HAVE OUR STATE LAWMAKERS BEING THERE AT THE CAPITOL ENJOYING A DRINK WITH EACH OTHER THAN BEIN STREETS SMASHING INTO GAY BARS?
[ LAUGHTER ] >> >> I THINK IN LIEU OF THAT WE HAVE A STATE LEGISLATURE THAT DID NOTHING LAST YEAR THAT REALLY MEANT ANYTHING.
TIMES THAT $60,000 TIME 10.
THAT'S A RED FLAG.
YOU'RE GONG TO GET WHO MORE NONSENSE IN THIS COMING SESSION.
PUT IT ON THE WALL.
>> THAT WILL BE POPULAR.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS TOO, THERE'S VERY LITTLE SPACE AT THE CAPITOL.
TO THE DISABLE TO MANY OFFICES BECAUSE OF THAT.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT -- IT'S ONE OF THOSE LITTLE STORIES IN THE SENSE OF THE TOTAL A MONEY.
PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICAL IS AWFUL.
>> THE STATE TEST SCORES WERE TAKEN LAST SPRING.
ANNOUNCED IN AUGUST.
WHOLE SEMESTER COME AND GONE.
THE SCHOOL PERFORMANCE S HAVE BEEN RE THEY USED IT'S CALLED SCHOOL PERFORMANCE THAT INCLUDES ATTENDANCE, IS IMP THEY FOUND OUT THAT WITH THESE SCORES, ONE OUT OF SIX SCHOOLS IN THE STATE DO NOT MEET THE STANDARDS FOR ACCREDITATION AND WHEN IT COMES TO CHARTER SCHOOLS, HALF OF THEM DO NOT MEET THE STANDARDS FOR ACCREDITATION.
ITS PLAN TO REALLY CHARGE UP THE READING FOR YOUNG KIDS IN OUR AREA.
ARE READING AT APPROPRIATE LEVELS BY THE YEAR 2030.
I DON'T HEAR TOO MANY PEOPLE SOUNDING THE ALARM A I APPRECIATE THE A PAPER.
THEY'VE GONE TO SCHO MEETINGS AND KIND OF LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WELL.
TODAY, THERE'S A STORY THAT SLPS, ST. LOUIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THIRD TO FOURTH, DID INCREMENTALLY BETTER IN READING AND ANOTHER IN MATH.
IF YOU GOING TO ST THIRD GO FOURTH GRADE IS SOME PLACE WHERE YOU CAN SAY, WE CAN JUST KEEP WHATEVER GROUP THIS KID IS GOING BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE, EIGHT YEARS FROM NO MAY BE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING.
THEY GOT LOT WAY TO GO.
THERE'S A GLIMMER OF HOPE THERE.
ALSO, ON THE STATEWIDE, THERE'S A SCHOOL DISTRICTS ST. C WAS ONE AND OTHERS THAT WERE DOING REALLY WELL AND THEN THEY KIND OF CHANGED THE AS THE TEST.
NOW THEY ARE DOING REALLY NOT WELL.
HOW DO YOU -- 25 POINT DROP.
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GETTING THE ATTENTION IT ACCIDENTS I DON'T THINK THE EDUCATION COMMISSIONER YELLING THIS.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDE SCORES.
COMMUNICATE WITH JARGON, MOST OF US OUTSIDE THE EDUCATION DON'T UNDERSTAND.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID POINT OUT SOME THINGS LIKE WITHIN THE CITY.
LIKE ALGEBRA.
DOING LITTLE BIT BETTER ON THE ALGEBRA.
>> WHAT ABOUT AN ARMY OF VOLUNTEERS FROM OASIS TO GO INTO THE SCHOOL AND SIT DOWN WITH THE KIDS ONE-ON-ONE ON DO READING?
MAKE IT A MAJOR EFFORT LIKE THE WPA OF THE 1930s.
>> THEY DO HAVE VOLUNT I DON'T THINK WHAT'S IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO HELP.
IF YOU EVER DEALT WI VOLUNTEERS, THEY DO TAKE A OF TIME AND ENERGY TO WRAN AND COORDINATE WITH AND MAKE SURE THAT'S WORKING.
WE HAVE TO RELY ON FULL-TI PAID TEACHERS.
SO MANY KIDS ARE COMING IN WITH SUCH NEEDS FAR BEYOND THE CLASSROOM.
READING.
PROBLEMS AROUND THEM THEIR LIVES TO GET THEIR HEAD IN THE GAME.
SO MANY KIDS POST-PANDEMIC ARE STRUGGLING.
>> WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE VOLUNTEERS?
MONEY.
LET' >> THEY DID THAT IN TEXAS.
THERE THESE ARE VERY LAYERED STORIES THAT LOT OF THESE KIDS HAVE.
ISSUES, OBVIOU OBVIOUSLY, IT'S HARDER TO LEARN.
>> LET'S ADD IF YOU REMOVE PROPERTY TAX, THE STATE OF MISSOURI IS EITHER AT OR NEAR THE BOTTOM NATIONALLY.
I'M TALKING APPLES TO APPLES, ALL 50 STATES ARE INVOLVED IN PUBLIC EDUCATION.
WE ARE LITERAL BOTTOM STATE EFFORT TO SUPPORT THE SCHOOL.
WITHOUT DISRESPECT TO OASIS, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DO.
>> THEY ARE GOING IN NOW.
>> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE TESTING SHORTAGE.
>> MIKE BLOOMBERG MAYOR OF NEW YORK HAS BEEN SOUNDING ALARM.
I DON'T HEAR THE CLAMOR IN THIS STATE.
A CLAMOR.
WHATEVER, WE NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY.
WE NEED TO INVEST.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE ST. CHARLES CITY-COUNTY LIBRARY WHICH HAS BEEN BATTLING SOME OF THE RESIDENTS IN ST. CHARLES WITH THE BOOKS ON THE SHELVES.
IF THERE'S SEXUALLY PHOTOGRAPHS IN THE BOOK, THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE, THEY WON'T BE ON THE SHELF.
THEM IN THE CARD CATALOG.
IS THAT A FAIR COMPROMISE?
>> I'M ALL FOR COMPROMISES.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS A COMPROMISE.
LEARN FROM THESE BOOKS AND HAVE ACCESS, ARE THE PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY LEAST LIKELY TO GO UP AND ASK A LIBRARIAN.
THEY CAN'T EVEN HAVE THE BOOK THERE ON SITE.
YOU HAVE ORDER I AND THEN THEY'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND THEN YOU HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT.
IT'S LIKE WAY TO INCONVENIENCE PEOPLE WHO TRYING TO GET THIS INFORMATION.
HAVE SEX EDUCATION HARDLY AT ALL.
BOOKS AT THE THE LIBRARY AND BEING ABLE TO PULL T SHELVES WITHOUT HAVING TO TALK TO AN ADULT.
>> I THI COMPROMISE.
RESPECT, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE RUNNING A LIBRARY IN ST. CHARLES.
MAINTAIN ANY AVAILABILITY TO THE BOOKS THAT ARE ASKED IS ASTONISHING TO ME.
FORCES, PARTICULARLY IN A CONSERVATIVE COUNT THEY ARE, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO ANY BETTER THAN WHAT THEY DID.
TH SOME FASHION.
THIS IS ST. CHARLES COUN I THINK THEY DID THEIR BEST.
>> ELOQUENTLY SAID.
I'M READY TO DISPLAY SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS FROM STOPPING PEOPLE FROM TAKING ANY BOOKS OUT OF ANY LIBRARY.
THE BOARD NOT VERY TRUSTING OF.
>> I WILL SAY TWO WEEKS AGO, FRIDAY, I DID SPEAK AT THE ST. CHARLES CITY COUNTY LIBRARY.
I HA WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
STAFF AND >> NOBODY CRASHED.
>> RESIDENTS?
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