Donnybrook
December 28, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 71 | 27m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Joe Holleman, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
Charlie Brennan debates with Joe Holleman, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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Donnybrook
December 28, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 71 | 27m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Joe Holleman, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOININ DONNYBROOK, THE LAST OF THE YEAR.
LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS STARTING WITH WENDY WIESE, THE HALL-OF-FAMER FROM THE BIG 550, KTRS.
LIST, JOE FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.
OF RIVERFRONT TIMES, AND FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN WHERE HE EDITS THE PAPER AND HAS SPORTS COLUMN, ALVIN REID.
NO THAT YOU MOVIE FANS OUT THERE MIGHT ENJOY, AND THAT IS, WENDY WIESE, THAT BRADLEY COOPER, THE DIRECTOR OF MAESTRO, HAS STOLEN THE LONG-TIME MUSIC FOR THE CREDITS ON THIS SHOW AND USED THEM IN THE CREDITS FOR MAES >> FOR HIS OWN CREDITS.
DID HE CALL YOU?
>> NO.
I DON'T THINK 9 PBS HEARD FROM HIM.
WATCHING IT, AND I THEN STARTED LOOKING AT MY PHONE AS I USUALLY DO, AND I HEARD THE DONNYBROOK CREDITS.
THING.
BERNSTEIN AND THE NEW YORK PHILHARMONIC.
HOWELL HIGH SCHOOL WHERE FRANCIS HOWELL HAS AGAIN BEEN IN NEWS.
BOARD DECIDED TO TAKE CURRICULUM PUT TOGETHER BY THE SOUTHERN P WHICH WAS INTENDED TO TEACH AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY, AND THEY VOTED THIS WE THAT CURRICULUM, AND THEN 3,000 STUDENTS GOT INVOLVED.
THEY WROTE THEIR SIGNATURES ON PETITIONS, AND NOW THE SCHOOL BOARD SAYS, OKAY, CURRICULUM FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY IN THE FALL.
KIDS WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PROVIDED BY THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER.
>> WELL, I WHERE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SCHOOL BOARD DID T FOR THE RIGHT REASON, WHICH THEY CALLED INTO QUESTION MUCH NEEDED COURSES ON BLACK LITER BLACK HISTORY IN THE UNITED STATES, COURSES THAT MOST DISTRICTS, MY GU ARE SORELY LACKING IN.
BUT IF THEY CALLED IT INTO QUESTION BECAUSE THEY HAD CONC POVERTY LAW CENTER, I BELIEVE THOSE CONC PLACED.
TH IN MY MIND WITH THE ACLU ORGANIZATIONS THAT HISTORICALLY I ALWAYS APPRECIATED THEIR OBJECTIVITY AND UNFAILING ADHERENCE TO A PRINCIPLE, AND I THINK BOTH HAVE EVOLVED OR DEVOLVED INTO POLITICAL ACTIVIST COMMITTEES.
QUESTIONS ABOUT A CURRICULUM DEVELOPED BY SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER WAS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WAS ACCEPTED.
SO I DID THEM SAYING, LET'S PUT O BRAKES.
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VOTE IS.
THE ORIGINAL VOTE TO K PROGRAM WAS 5 TO 2.
I HAVEN'T BEEN WHAT THE VOTE WAS ON RES IT, AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND PUT THOSE COU IN, WHICH I THINK IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
IF IT WAS DONE SIMPLY BECAUSE STUDENTS WROTE PETITION, GOOD LUCK ON THEIR SCHOOL BOARD WITH ANY OTHER DECISIONS WHEN THEY COME UP WITH A DECISION AND STUDENTS START PETITIONING F IT.
RESPECTFULLY, ON THAT LAST POINT, HEADLINE ON THAT POINT IS -- THIS IS ONOLD STUDENT AC TALKING, THE HEADLINE IS 3,000 STUDENTS STANDING UP FOR WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS R I'M NOT GOING TO WEEDS ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD A THEIR JUDGMENT ABOUT T PARTIC THING THAT YOU'VE GOT -- AND AGAIN, FORGET ABOUT THE SPECIFICS.
DEMOCRACY SEEMS TO BE LESS VALUED ALL THE TIM STAND FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE AND BEING HEARD BY THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE TO BE -- >> IF WE'RE APPLAUDING DEMOCRACY -- >> I'M APPLAUDING THE FACT THAT STUDENTS CARED ENOUGH, G INVOLVED, AND GOOD FOR THEM.
>> I WAS 59 YEARS OL BEFORE I LEARNED ABOUT THE TULSA UPRISING.
AND SO IF YOU ARE RIGHT, JOE, THEN CERTAINLY THEY DID NOT DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE.
BACK TO THE ORIGINAL DECISIO DON'T THINK IT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE POVERTY CENTER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK THAT WAS A R BECAUSE THEY WERE FOLLOWING A LINE O SOCIALLY RIGHT NOW, AND IT BLEW BACK IN THEIR FACE, AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER.
AND I KNOW 3,000 INVOLVED AND ALL OF THAT THINK PROBABLY ABOUT 3 VER INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE WHO PUT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ON BOARD GAVE THEM A CALL A LIKE, YOU'RE OUT OF LINE.
SO I DON'T THINK THEY SAW THE LIGHT.
DO WITH THE SOUTHERN LEADERSHIP POVERTY CENTER.
>> MISTAKE BASED ON THEIR POLITICAL AND SOCIAL FEELINGS.
I'M NOT IT, BUT I DO WELL THINK THAT PLAYED A -- >> BEYOND, ALVIN, THAT THE SOUTHERN AN ISSUE FOR THEM, AND I AGREE WITH JOE.
>> THEY'RE BRINGING IT BACK, BUT WITHOUT THAT GROUP, WHIC ACTIVIST GROUP, AND I DON'T THINK THAT SCHOOLS SHOUL CURRICULUM THAT'S WRITTE ACTIVIST GROUPS.
QUESTION, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE ACLU AND SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY WERE ACTIV >> THEY ARE.
>> THAT'S WHAT -- DO YOU WANT YOUR STUDENTS' CURRICULUM WRITTEN BY ACTIVIST GR EDUCATORS?
CONSTITUTION WRITTEN BY THE NRA.
>> ALVIN IS RIGHT.
THE WHOLE MYTH FROM THE RIGHT, THIS IS ALL CRT, WHICH DOESN'T EVEN EXIST IN MISSOURI SCHOOLS.
IT'S A NONEXISTENT RED HERRING.
AND ALVIN IS RIGHT, THIS IS PART OF THE CULTURE WAR.
I'LL STICK TO MY GUNS THAT IT'S GREAT THESE KIDS MADE THEIR STAND.
GENERAL TERMS, THIS ACTIVIST GROUP.
WE'RE GOING TO TEACH ACCURATELY THE HISTORY.
>> EXACTLY.
POVERTY LAW CENTER, IT BRING THE ACCURACY QUESTION.
>> I DON'T T >> ON MY FIRST STATEMENT AND SAY I THOUGHT THE SCHOOL BOARD ORIGINALLY DID THE WRONG T >> THEN I WILL MOVE THANK YOU, ALVIN REID YOU HAD A BIRTHDAY STORY, I THINK, FRONT ON YOUR WEBSITE OF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE FERGUSON FLORISSANT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
DR. JOE DAVIS IS CONCERNED THE AM IN THE SCHOOLS.
WE T WEEKS AGO, GAMES BEING THE STATE CLAMP SHI CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL GAME HALTED WITH THREE OR SO MINUTES LEFT IN THE GAME.
ALSO FIGHTING BECA DECIDED TO GO VIRTUAL.
WE KNOW THE MCCLURE HIGH S TEACHERS WALKED OUT IN MARCH BECAUSE OF TOO MUCH FIGHTI AMONG THE KIDS, SO W DR. DAVIS SAY?
FIGHTING GOING ON ALL OVER THE AREA.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT REALL EXPECT.
VERY CORDIAL, JAMPACKED, AND SCORES OF PEOPLE WERE ON ZOOM.
HE JUST PUT IT OUT THERE.
HE SAID, LISTEN, NO SECRET, I CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT YOU.
NOW, FIGHTING IS PART OF SOCIETY, WHICH IS BEING BROUGHT INTO THE SCHOOLS.
PARENTS SHARED THAT.
JOE DAVIS SH AND ONE OF THE OVERWHE THINGS THAT WAS IN THE DISCUSSION WAS IS ZERO TOLERANCE THE WAY TO GO.
AND I FIND M I'VE OFTEN SAID THIS, EVERY DISTRICT IS DIFFERENT.
THEY HAVE TO COME TO WHATE CONCLUSION THEY CAN WITH HOW TO STOP THIS KIND OF TH IS A PROBLEM A REGION.
USED TO HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR, I'M KIND OF MOVING THE OTHER WAY.
TO WHERE, LIKE, NO, YOU CAN NO LONGER GO TO SCHOOL HERE, AND I THINK A LOT OF PARENTS SHARE THAT.
> AND TO HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE ATTENDANCE, THAT SHOULD MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL VERY OPTIMISTIC.
BUT I THINK THAT THE OPINION OF SOME PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE TO MAYBE HAVE A COOKIE CUTTER OR BECAUSE TEAGUBOUTIQUE SCHOOL DISTRICT APPROACH, DISCIPLINE IS DISCIPLINE STANDARDS, AND THE TO ACCOMMODATE, OKAY, THESE ARE SAGITTARIUS WITH AQUARIUS RISING, I THINK WE MUDDY THE WATERS AND WE MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR KIDS TO KNOW WHAT IS EXPECTED OF THEM.
>> MUCH LIKE THE 3,000 KIDS KEPT MAKING THEIR VIEWS, JOE DIFFIES DIDAVISDID WHAT MORE NE ED TO, DO WHICH IS TO ENGAGE EVERYBODY.
I AND I THINK EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.
IT'S NOT COOKIE CUTTER.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, T GOING TO HAVE TO F OUT, AND THEY HAVE TO FIGU OUT WITH THE PARENTS AND WITH THE KIDS AND WITH THE TEACHERS A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS HERE.
HE'S DOING THE RIGHT THING BY ENGAGING THEM.
TO ME.
YOU'VE GOT TO DO SOMET ADDRESSES -- HAS TO BE A RECOGNITION OF -- THERE HAS TO BE AN ABSOLUTE THAT AT SOME POINT THESE STUDENTS WHO CONSISTENTLY DISOBEY THE RULES CAN NO L SO I AGREE TO WHERE YOU CA APPROACH IT IN A SORT OF COOKIE CUTTER WAY.
TO BE A RESULT OF YOU MY MISBEHAVING IN SCHOOL, FIGHTING IN SCHOOL, AND WHERE HE'S ASKING I NEED PARENTS TO GET INVOLVED.
IF WE COUL INVOLVED, A THINGS IN SOCIETY DIFFERENT FACE ON HIS MESSAGE IS NOT LOST.
THE THING IS, WHAT AFRAID OF, THE PARENTS W AREN'T PARENTING NOW ARE GOING TO PARENT JUST BECAUSE DR. DA >> REAL QUICK.
ARISEN HERE LATELY IS PARENTS ADDRESSING THE PROBLEMS THAT THEIR KID IS HAV IE, THE PARENT GOING TO THE BUS OR THE SCHOOL TAKING ON THE BULLY OR WHATEVER.
WE DEFINITELY CAN'T HAVE THAT.
>> NO.
O'FALLON, MISSOURI.
67-ACRE TRAINING FACILITY THAT WI VEHICLE DRIVING COURSE, SWAT TEAM INSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS TWO FIRING RANGES, ONE INSIDE, ONE OUTSIDE.
WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR BULLETS BEING FIRED, HOWEVER WORTHY THE PRACTICE, SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS ONE?
IS TRAINING CENTER?
>> SPECIFICS IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING TO SEE THE CONCEPT OF THIS MAJOR POLICE TRAINING FACILITY THAT CERTAINLY WOULD MAKE SENSE IN THE ABSTRACT.
DOOR TO IT, JUST LIKE A LO PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO A HALFWAY HOUSE OR TH THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
I THOUGHT THE STORY IN THE STOOD OUT.
WAS A NV STORY SAYING TO THE POLICE, GET OFF MY LAWN.
IT WAS LIKE -- WHICH YOU JUST DON'T HEAR EVERY DAY.
IT WAS INTERESTING.
AGAIN, I DON'T KNO SPECIFICS, BUT I THINK PEOPLE DON'T REALLY LOVE THE IDEA OF THE COMFORTING SOUNDS OF GUNSHOTS ACROSS THE BACKYARD.
>> I THINK IT'S THE DOGS BARKING.
>> I THINK IT SHOWED THE WONDERFUL WAY -- (LAUGHTER).
>> HE IT COMES DOWN TO BEING NEXT TOOR TO ME.
I LOVE ALL O REHABS, FIRING RANGES.
>> CACANNABIS, R IT'S LIKE A GIANT RETAILER DISTRIBUTION CENTER WITH GUNS AND BARKING DOGS AND RETENTION PONDS, WATER TRAN TRAININ TRAINING AND THAT KIND OF THING.
I THINK EVERYB TACTICALLY PREPARED POLICE FORCE, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THOSE POLICE OFFICERS WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEMSELVES, IF THIS WERE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD -- >> ABOUT POINT.
>> -- CHILDREN PLAYING THERE.
>> THE ANSWER IS, IF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS PICKED FOR THE RECYCLING CENTER, THE PO TRAINING CENTER, THE HOMELESS SHELTER OR WHATEVER, YOU GET SOMETHING THAT THE REST OF THE PEOPLE IN YOU GET A SWIMMING POOL.
YOU GET AN EXTRA PLAYGROUN YOU GET A POLICE SUB-STATI SOMETHING -- SOME CARROT THAT MAKES IT W IT'S SO SIMPLE, WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT WITH HOMELESS SHELTERS IN THE CITY.
>> I HATE TO G THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT THAT IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
>> LET ME SAY THIS -- (INAUDIBLE).
QUICKLY, AND THAT IS THAT IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME.
IN THI TO ME THAT THIS KIND OF A MEGA FACILITY HAS TO BE REMOTE ENOUGH BECAUSE OF ITS NATURE, WHEREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETHING FOR THE -- A HALFWAY HOUSE, THEY BE DEFINITION NEED TO BE PART OF A COMMUNITY, SO IT'S NOT THE S THING.
I DON'T.
HAND, ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE CITY R ONE, LAST YEAR, TRAGICALLY PEOPLE WERE KILLED CROSSING CHIPPEWA AT TED DREWES.
IT TURNS OUT IN EARLY DECE A WOMAN WAS HIT BY A CAR.
YOUR PAPER HAS RAISED THE QUESTION, OKAY, WHERE'S THE CROSSWALK THAT WAS PROMISED 18 MONTHS AGO, OR WHATEVER THE CASE.
ON A POOR GUY WHO BOUGHT A DILAPIDATED PROPERTY IN THE CITY FOR $20,000.
IT ONLY TO FIND THAT THE DEED WAS NEVER PROCESSED, AND T HOME WAS SOLD FROM UNDER HIM TO AN ISRAELI COUPLE, AS IT TURNS OUT.
MONEY INTO A HOME THAT HE DOES NOT OWN.
ST. LOUIS?
>> IT'S THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT IS -- AND I ALWAYS FALL BACK ON WHAT'S A VARIANT OF AWK HAM'S RAZOR, WHICH GOES, NEVER ATTRIBUTE TO EVIL THAT CAN BE EXPLAINED BY STUPIDITY.
NIGHTMARE STORY.
SPEND ABOUT 4 OR 5,000 IN FIXING IT UP, AND EITHER THE RECORDER OF DEEDS, HE DIDN'T GET THE RIGHT MESSAGE, THE SHERIFF DIDN'T G THEY NEVER FILED THE PAPER SO THE PEOPLE WHO OWN TH WENT, OH, WE'LL SELL IT TO THESE PEOPLE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS NO MAL MALI INTENDED BY THIS COMPANY.
THIS GUY WAS, LI SOLD MY HOUSE.
THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE IT RIGH INSTEAD OF SOME POINT IN TIME INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT CONVENIENT EXCUSES, AND PLEASE DON'T USE COVID ANYMORE, THAT' GONE, STOP WITH THAT.
YOU NEED TO IN, JUST PUT IT DONE, AND THE SAME WITH THIS GUY'S HOUSE.
THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE HIM WHOLE, FIX WHATEVER THEY NEED TO, DO AND NEEDS TO COME OUT IS MY FAULT, BECAUSE T OFFICE, AND WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT.
DIDN'T GET THE NOTICE, I DIDN'T GET THE E-MAIL.
HE DIDN'T DO JUST, YOU KNOW, STAND UP,.
>> BUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CORRECT?
AUCTIONS.
GOES BACK TO A STORY WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLEFU WHICCOUPLE OF YEAR COMPUTER SYSTEM.
TROUBLE, IS THE COMPUTER SYS JUST SORT OF LIKE, O COMPUTER SYSTEM, OR IS IT BEING ADDRESSED?
I DON'T KNOW.
THE CROSSWALK, I DON'T GET THAT.
I THINK THERE ARE ENOUGH POLITICIANS AROUND THERE THAT THEY CAN GET THA I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HO UP.
TALK OR POLITICRY OR WHATEVER.
BUT RECORDING DEEDS, BUY SOMETHING, A PIECE OF LAND.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T LIKE MARSHAL DILLON, BUT, HEY, A MAN BOUGHT A PIECE OF LAND AND THEN YOU SOLD IT.
WITHIN AN HOUR OF ME BUYING A PROPERTY, THAT SHOULD BE -- HE OWNS THAT PROPERTY.
WE CAN'T H I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF T WE CAN'T HAVE, OBVIOUSLY.
>> IS IT BECAUSE WE HAVE REQUIRED, UNTIL RECENTLY, EMPLOYEE THE CITY, AND WITH THE DECLINING POPULATION, YOU JUST HAVE FEWER -- >> THE CROM COM COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE IS UNDERSTAFFED.
TOO.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS END OF OUR 37th SEASON, THIS STRIKES ME AS A STORY THAT IS TIMELESS.
CONVERSATION IN 1987 ABOUT SOMETHING, AND I BET WE DID.
THIS STORY JUST -- >> BUT BACK IN 1987, LOOKING AT A PILE OF MONEY THAT WE'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT GAINING INTEREST FROM THE PILE OF MONEY THAN WE ARE PUTTING IT TO WORK.
>> RAY'S POINT IS WELL TAKE I GUESS WHERE I BRISTLE AT REFERENCES TO PROGRESSIVE POLITICS, THIS REALLY GOES BACK TO THE WHO.
MEET THE NEW BOSS, SAME AS THE OLD BOSS.
>> THAT'S RI WE YOU STILL APPARENTLY CAN'T GET A DEED FILED.
YOU'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THE BASIC BUSINESS, AND THE CITY HAS ALWAYS HAD PROBLEMS WITH BUREAUCRACY, POLITICSY.
>> I LIKE IT.
>> JUST FIX IT.
>> I COTTON BOWL.
MIZZOU UP AGAINST TOMORROW NIGHT.
TOMORROW NIGHT THE QUARTERBACK FROM FROM OHIO STATE WON THERE, KYLE MCCORD HAS ALREADY TRANSFERRED TO SYRACUSE, AND THERE ARE QUESTI PLAYERS WHO ARE EITHER NOT G TO PLAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T W TO GET INJURED B DRAFT OR THEY TRANSFERRED TO OTHER SCHOOLS.
MIZZOU AS WELL.
DOESN'T TH IMPORTANCE OF THIS BIL GAME?
ANYTHING THA GET MIZZOU THE W IS FINE WITH ME.
I CAN SEE WHY THE PLAYERS, IF THEY ARE ABOUT TO ENTER INTO THE NFL DRAFT, BECAUSE THAT WO THE GAME WHERE THEY HAVE AN ACL INJURY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND IT WOULD PUT THEM OU WRECK THEIR WHOLE WHATEVER.
BUT NO, I WISH I COULD GET EXCITED ABOUT WHO IS NOT GOING TO BE PLAYING.
I'M JUST EXCITED THAT MI THERE, AND I THINK THEY'RE TO WIN.
>&g I AGREE WITH I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH MY ALMA MATER, MIZZOU.
WE'VE GOT ONE KID, ONE OF OUR TOP -- KEY QUARTERBACK IS GOING TO GO HALFWAY -- PROBABLY IS PROJECTED TO BE 15th OR 16th EVEN IN THE FIRST ROUND OF THE DRAFT, AND THEY ARE HAS AN UNDISCLOSED INJURY.
I MEAN, I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT, BUT I THIN HAS ABSOLUTELY EVERY RIGHT, FOR THE SAME REASON A LOT OF FIRST ROUND DRAFT CHOICES, TO NOT WANT TO RISK INJURY IF IT COSTS HIM UNRECOVERABLE MILLIONS.
YOU CAN' >> BUT WHAT ABOUT PLAYING WITH YOUR TEAMMATES?
DON'T YOU OWE YOUR SCHOOL?
>> NO.
THEY WERE PART OF SOME BIGGER THAN THEMSE >> I REALLY HAVE COME 180 ON THIS.
ME, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, OKAY, YOU'VE GOT A FUTURE IN PLAYING BALL.
EVERYBODY OUT THERE, WHE AT KU, WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, W WENT TO THE 1981 HALL OF FAME BOWL.
I STILL HAVE ALL OF THAT.
IT REALLY MEANT SOMETHING TO ME.
I WENT OUT TO PHOENIX FOR OUR BOWL GAME.
THERE, AND IT'S A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
FIVE DAYS THAT THOSE KIDS ARE OUT THERE.
IT'S STILL SPE IT'S S WE WON.
I MEAN, I WAS ECSTATIC, BUT IT DOESN'T DIMINISH ANYTHING, BECAUS BOOSTERS GOING,.
TOPIC IN 2023.
THE ANNOUNCED ITS PERSON OF THE YEAR, AND HE OR SHE IS GABE GORE.
THROUGH, ACTUALLY WAS STILL BASICALLY FUNDAMENTALLY UNKN AT THIS TIME LAS HIS JOB IN THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD THAT I GUESS WOULD GET THE DEEDS FILED.
WE'RE GOING TO AND HOW.
>> G >> IT'S HARD T HE COULD CHOICE THIS YEAR.
HE'S DONE -- BAR TO FOLLOW, BUT I'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE THAT -- THIS IS NOT DIMINISHING GABE GORE.
I'D LIKE T IT'S A NAME YOU DON'T KNOW.
HIS NAME IS MATTHEW DRUMMOND, AND HE IS A GUY WHO IS MAKING 100,000 BUCKS AT A PRETTY EASY JOB AS THE CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT COMMISSIONER, APPOINTED BY MAYOR JONES, AND HE DID SOMETHING REMARKABLE, AND TH ON PRINCIPLE, WASN'T PRESSURED, HE WALKED AWAY AND HE HAS SET IN MOTION AT LEAST AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE JAI TALK WAS JUST THAT, TALK.
AND HERE'S ONE GUY WALKING JUST CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY ELSE DOING THIS.
YEARS AND DEEMED UNTRAINED BY THE BUREAUCRACY TO DO THE OVERSIGHT JOB, A KNOW WHAT?
WITH THIS BECAUSE THERE TO BE ANY APPEARANCE THAT WE'RE DOING OVERSIGHT WASN'T, AND I SAY GOOD FOR HIM.
>> QUITTING.
>> N YOU DON'T SEE THAT KIND OF PRINCIPLE.
PRINCIPLE.
BASKETBALL IN FOREST PARK.
SO ERIC NEWMAN AND HIS WIFE PEGGY HAVE GIVEN MONEY TO THE BASKETBALL COURSE.
IT'S IN NICHOLAS BOOKER, WHO TRAGICALLY DIED FROM AN ASTHMA ATTACK W HE WAS A FRESHMAN AT THE UNIVERSITY.
NIEWNEWMANS AS WELL AS THE MAYO AND GREG HAYES OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND LESLIE, BECAUSE THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BASKETBALL, A GREAT SUPPOR WE ALL KNOW, IN LEAST THE REGION THAT GAVE THE WORLD JASON.
GENTLEMAN'S NAME, BUT HE WAS BEHIND REALLY THE FUND PART OF IT.
GOSH, I'M SORRY.
>> >> NO.
THAT'S GOOD, CHARL >> VERY GO >> ANYBODY?
>> I'M IN THE GABE GORE.
>> I'M WITH GABE GORE TOO.
>> WE ALL ARE.
>> DON'T FORGET, WA THEY BECAUSE YOU'LL HEAR THE MUSIC LEONARD BERNSTEIN, WHICH IS ALSO AT THE END OF TH LET'S FIND OUT WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO IF THEY WANT TO ABOUT US, WHICH IS A P ACTIVITY IN ST. LOUIS.
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