>>> HI I'M KYLE DYER AND WELCOME TO "COLORADO INSIDE OUT" ON THIS FRIDAY, DECEMBERÂ 2ND, 2022.

19 PEOPLE WERE KILLED INSIDE A NIGHTCLUB IN COLORADO SPRINGS.

THE SHOWING OF SUPPORT FOR THOSE AFFECTED CONTINUES TO SHINE BRIGHTLY.

FROM THE COLORS OF THE RAINBOW AND LIGHTS OUTSIDE TO THE PRIDE FLAG OUTSIDE OF COLORADO SPRINGS.

SENATOR MICHAEL BENNET SAID TUESDAY COLORADO IS HURTING.

WE ARE TIRED OF THIS.

THAT IS WHEN THE SENATE APPROVED SAME SEX MARRIAGE.

WE RECOGNIZE THE SECOND AMENDMENT OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.

THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS.

THIS SHOW WILL ADDRESS HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO KEEP US ALL OF US SAFE AND WELL AND PREVENT FURTHER GUN VIOLENCE.

WE HAVE PATTY CALHOUN, GEORGE BRAUCHLER, ALSO COLORADO STATE SENATOR RHONDA FIELDS AND ALSO CALEB DAVID.

SO PATTY, PLEASE START US OFF TODAY.

>> YOU CAN'T HEAR THIS ANYTHING THAT IS AS HORRIBLE THAT WE HEARD ON THE 20th.

HOW MANY TIMES WE HEARD IT IN COLORADO.

HOW IT HAS CHANGED COVERING THESE EVENTS BACK IN 1999 WHEN COLUMBINE FIRST HAPPENED PEOPLE WERE BARELY USING THE INTERNET.

WE HEARD ABOUT THAT ON THE RADIO.

WE COULDN'T DO MUCH ABOUT IT.

YOU COULDN'T IMMEDIATELY PUBLISH.

YOU HEAR THIS AGAIN AND YOU COULDN'T BELIEVE IT AFTER THE AURORA THEATER SHOOTINGS.

AFTER THE KING SOOPERS SHOOTING.

AND IN BETWEEN OTHER INCIDENTS THAT DIDN'T GET AS MUCH ATTENTION OR WEREN'T AS DRASTIC AS THIS.

YOU SEE HOW INTERNET HAS CHANGED THINGS.

HOW YOU FIND OUT INFORMATION SO QUICKLY, HOW YOU HEAR RUMORS SO QUICKLY.

THE VICTIMS HERE THEIR NAMES DIDN'T COME OUT RIGHT AWAY.

YOU BEGAN TO SEE CELEBRATIONS OF THE VICTIMS.

WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT THEM.

WE HAVE SEEN THE COMMUNITY PULL TOGETHER.

WHAT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS SHOOTER.

WHERE THERE INCIDENTS IN COLORADO SPRINGS THAT WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT.

>> GEORGE YOU PROSECUTED TWO MEN WHO PROVIDED THE WEAPONS TO THE COLUMBINE SHOOTERS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS HURTING, WHAT GOES THROUGH YOUR MIND.

>> IT HAS BEEN MY HOME AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.

IF YOU HAD TOLD ME 25 YEARS AGO THIS PARTICULAR AREA IN THE GREAT STATE OF COLORADO WOULD SUFFER SOME OF THE BIGGEST MOST NOTORIOUS MURDERS I WOULD SAY YOU WERE CRAZY.

I DO BELIEVE PART OF IT.

THE OTHER THING A SENSE OF ALMOST RESIGNATION AND DEPRESSION.

YOU HAVE THAT INSTANT GASP OF HORROR.

YOU THINK ARE WE EVER GOING TO TURN THE PAGE FROM THIS?

ARE WE GOING TO READ IT IS SOMEONE ELSE AND NOT HEAR IT FROM OURSELVES?

THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN UNIVERSAL.

THAT HAS BEEN AWESOME.

COLORADO SPRINGS HAVE A CLUB Q WHO WAS IN ATTENDANCE.

AT A TIME WHEN THERE IS A DEMONSTRATION OF REAL EVIL THERE IS ALSO REAL GOOD.

I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING THOSE IN THE RECEIVING END OF THIS.

HAVING TO BE THE DA THAT HAS TALKED TO THE VICTIMS.

I KNOW WE ARE IN THE SAME PLANET, BREATHING THE SAME AIR.

THERE IS SOME GAP WE CAN'T GET TO.

>> A YOUNG MAN AND HIS FIANCEE WERE GUN DOWNED IN AURORA.

YOUR PURPOSE OF LIFE SHIFTED.

YOU ARE THE LEADING VOICE IN OUR STATE.

WHEN YOU HEAR ANOTHER BIG ACT OF VIOLENCE, HOW DO YOU FEEL?

>> YOU KNOW THERE IS A SHOOTING, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS A MASS SHOOTING OR A SHOOTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT CAUSES ME TO REVISIT MY PERSONAL TRAUMA.

YOU NEVER GET OVER, YOU GET THROUGH IT.

HOW WE CAN HEAL FROM SOME OF THE TRAUMA THAT WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING.

WE HAVE HAD BOULDER.

IT IS UNSETTLING WE SEEM TO HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A TREND OF SHOOTINGS WHERE PEOPLE ARE USING THESE GUNS, THESE RIFLES IN INAPPROPRIATE MANAGE Â -- MANNER.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE, GOING TO THE THEATER, OR THE MALL.

THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY SAFE PLACES.

I LIKE FOR US TO START LOOKING BEYOND THE BULLET AND LOOK HOW WE CAN HEAL THE TRAUMA AFTER THE TV CAMERAS HAVE LEFT.

WE SEE THE DEVASTATION WITH NOT HAVING THE RESOURCES OR THE COUNSELLING TO MOVE ON.

>> CALEB WE THANK YOU FOR DRIVING UP FOR THE SHOW.

HOW ARE PEOPLE DOING DOWN THERE?

>> IT IS A MIX.

THERE IS SO MUCH SUPPORT WHICH IS RARE FOR OUR COMMUNITY WITHIN THE COLORADO SPRINGS AREA.

SEEING THE AMOUNT THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT.

THEY ARE STILL ONGOING.

THERE IS SO MUCH UNKNOWN AS WELL.

MANY OF US GREW UP IN FAITH COMMUNITIES THAT TOLD US WE WERE NOT GOOD.

WHEN WE FIND SAFE SPACES WE CAN GO GATHER, WHEN THAT GETSÂ -- WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE HEALING AND HOWÂ -- THE RHETORIC.

THERE ARE WAYS WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS WHERE WE CAN PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RED FLAG IN COLORADO.

THAT IS A TOUGH ANGLE.

IT PASSED IN 2019.

IN 2020 IT ALLOWS FAMILY MEMBERS OR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO REQUEST A CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS WHO POSE A STATE TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS.

WHAT YOU READ IT IS NOT ENFORCED EVERYWHERE IN COLORADO.

WHY IS THAT?

WHAT ARE YOU HEARING?

>> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON.

THERE WAS A 2018 VERSION OF THIS LAW WHICH WAS FAR MORE CONSERVATIVE.

IT WAS FAR MORE DUE PROCESS PROTECTING.

IT WAS ANOTHER BLUE WAVE OF SORTS.

ONE OF THE LEST PROTECTED IN THE COUNTRY.

I THINK A LOT OF SHERIFFS OBJECT TO IT.

HOWEVER, YOU SWEAR AND UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES THE CONSTITUTION OF COLORADO AND ALL OF THE ORGANIC LAWS.

YOU DON'T GET TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH LAWS TO ENFORCE AND WHEN.

I STRUGGLE WITH FRIENDS OF MINE WHO SAY I WILL NEVER USE THIS TOOL IN MY TOOLBOX IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

IT CAN PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE.

WE DON'T GET TO KNOW HOW MANY SUCCESS STORIES GREW OUT OF IT.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS NOT USED.

WHAT WE CAN'T KNOW WHAT DID IT PREVENT.

WE DON'T GET TO KNOW THAT.

WE CAN'T REALLY KNOW.

I THINK IN PART WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THE STATES STRUGGLE HOW DO WE MAKE THIS TOOL WORK WITHOUT VIOLATIONS THE CONSTITUTION.

>> HOUSE DOES IT FEEL WHEN YOU PASS A LAW AND IT IS NOT FOLLOWED.

>> WHEN YOU PASS LAWS YOU EXPECT IT TO BE FOLLOWED.

EVER SINCE THE PASSING OF THE RED FLAG LAW SOME SHERIFFS VOICING THEIR OPINION AND SAYING I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT.

IF THERE IS A LOOPHOLE, IT NEEDS TO BE CLOSED.

I DON'T KNOW THE SCENARIOS BEHIND THIS.

WE NEED TO DIG DEEP.

WE KNOW THERE IS A FORMULA.

IF THERE IS A GUN IN THE HOUSE AND ISSUES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOMEONE GETTING HURT IS PRETTY HIGH.

SO THERE IS ENOUGH DATA TO THAT SAYS WE NEED TO TAKE THE GUN OUT OF THAT HOME EVEN IF THERE IS A POTENTIAL SUICIDE OR HOMICIDE.

>> YOU MENTIONED SUICIDE.

MORE THAN HALF OF DEATHS ARE SUICIDE.

THIS LAW IS MEANT TO PROTECT PEOPLE WHO CAN HARM THEMSELVES.

THERE ARE MANY CASES, HIGH NUMBER OF CASES IN THE LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY WHO GO THE ROUTE OF DEATH BY SUICIDE.

>> THEY DO.

THEY KEEP TELLING US THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT WE ARE LESS THAN HUMAN.

I DIDN'T COME OUT UNTIL I WAS 40 YEARS OLD.

I LOST EVERYTHING.

I LOST 85% OF MY BUSINESS.

I LOST FRIENDS, I LOST COMMUNITY.

YOU NEED TO LIVE YOUR BEST AUTHENTIC LIFE.

I WAS DRINKING SO MUCH THAT I WAS SUBCONSCIOUS KILLING MYSELF.

IN THE STATE OF COLORADO THE NUMBER IS HIGHER FOR SUICIDE TO 75% OF THE GUN DEATHS IN COLORADO.

COUNTRY-WISE 58%.

IN OUR STATE IT IS 75%.

IT IS THREE QUARTERS OF THE DEATH BY GUNS.

>> I HOPE WHAT HAS HAPPENED INLIGHTENS EVERYONE IN OUR STATE AND EVERYWHERE TO WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS FACING.

HOW WE CAN PROTECT EVERYBODY IN COLORADO.

>> THIS IS A MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM.

I NEEDED HELP.

OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS HELP.

I'M PROUD OF HOW THIS PULLED TOGETHER.

I'M PROUD OF THE LOCAL SYNAGOGUES AND CHURCHES THAT HELD VIGILS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

>> IT IS INTERESTING TALKING ABOUT COLORADO SPRINGS 30 YEARS AGO COLORADO SPRINGS WAS THE FOCUS OF AMENDMENT TWO.

IT WAS THE REASON WE BECAME THE HATE STATE.

IT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A SPECIAL PROTECTION.

SOME READ ANY PROTECTION FOR GAYS AND ANYONE IN THAT COMMUNITY.

COLORADO CREATED THEIR OWN PROBLEM WHEN THEY ATTRACTED THE CHURCHES.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE HATE STATE.

THAT IS TOO BAD IN COLORADO.

WITH COLUMBINE WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST STATES THAT HAD TO GRAPPLE WITH IT.

IT IS NOT ALL YET.

WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT IS CAUSING THIS?

CAN THINGS STOP IT?

THAT'S WHY WE WILL SEE THE RED FLAG LAW CHANGE.

>> SENATOR FIELDS YOU AND OTHER STATE REPRESENTATIVES FORMED THE INTERVENTION CAUCUS.

>> THE OBJECTIVE OF THE CAUCUS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED TO FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT HOW CAN WE DO THIS RIGHT?

IF WE ARE GOING TO RUN POLICIES THAT ADDRESS GUN PREVENTION AND GUN SAFETY WHAT SHOULD IT LOOK LIKE?

MAKE SURE WE HAVE MORE EYES, EARS AND PEOPLE INVOLVED.

YOU THROW THE BILL OUT THERE AND EVERYONE IS COMING OUT OF THE WOOD WORK TO TRY TO MODIFY THE BILL.

WE ARE TRYING TO BE FORWARD THINKING AND BE STRATEGIC IN ANY KIND OF LEGISLATION THAT WE RUN AS IT RELATES TO GUN SAFETY REFORM SAFETY.

>> JANUARYÂ 9TH.

CALEB WHEN YOU WERE COLORADO GOVERNOR LEADERSHIP PROJECT WAS ALL ABOUT PREVENTING GUN VIOLENCE.

>> IT IS NOT ABOUT TAKING PEOPLE'S GUNS AWAY.

WHAT WE FOUND IN OUR DISCOVERY.

WE FOUND MENTAL ISSUE.

WE FOUND THAT ACCESS TO GUNS IS A HUGE THING.

IT IS ABOUT THE SAFETY.

IT IS ABOUT THE PREVENTION.

THE BIGGEST WAY WE LEARN ABOUT THAT IS BY PROXIMITY.

THAT US TALKING TOGETHER.

USING DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AROUND THIS ISSUE.

THERE IS A LOT OF COMMON GROUND.

WE TALKED TO PEOPLE 100% PRO-GUN.

WE WANT TO HEAR THE WHOLE STATE OF COLORADO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

THE WAY WE DO THAT IS PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS AND EDUCATION WITHIN COMMUNITIES.

>> DO YOU FOCUS ON WE NEED TO GET ALL DIFFERENT SIDES.

YOU DO WITH EVERY STORY.

REALLY DO DEEP DIVES INTO THE COMMUNITY.

ALL OF US KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

>> YOU WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHY IT HAPPENED.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHY IT HAPPENED YOU CAN'T STOP IT.

YOU DO SEE SOME CHANGES OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.

A NO NOT RYETY MOVEMENT.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE POSITION WE NEED TO KNOW WHY HE DID IT IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT CAN BE STOPPED.

SO MAYBE WE WILL LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE HEARING VERY LITTLE.

IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TWO YEARS AGO WITH HIM.

HOW WILL WE KNOW CAN WE STOP THIS WITH PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE?

AS A NEWSPAPER PERSON, YOU WANT TO HONOR EVERYONE.

YOU WANT TO HONOR THE VICTIMS.

YOU WANT TO SEE IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP IT IN THE FUTURE.

>> NOT MUCH IS KNOWN IN THIS CASE.

>> NOT MUCH IS KNOWN.

PART OF IT ISÂ -- EVEN THE CONVERSATIONS WE ARE HAVING HERE ARE PREDICATED ON A PREÂ -- WHEN THIS CASE GETS UNSEALED.

I TALKED TO PATTY ABOUT THIS A LOT.

I THINK WHAT WE WILL FIND OUT THOSE HANDGUN AND THE RIFLE OBTAINED WAS LIKELY NOT OBTAINED THROUGH A FEDERALLY LICENSE DEALER.

IF THAT IS TRUE THEN THE FACT THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NEVER SAW A RED FLAG PROTECTION ORDER IS IRRELEVANT.

AS LONG AS REFUSES TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW THE ORDER IS MEANING LESS.

IF THAT IS TRUE, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO TRY TO MINIMIZE ACCESS TO FIREARMS TO PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEM.

IT IS A VERY TRICKY THING.

I THINK THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO IS WHAT CALEB TALKED ABOUT.

THAT'S THE MENTAL HEALTH PIECE.

WE HAVE GOTTEN RID OF SIGH LEMS.

WE NEED TO HAVE TRUE INVESTMENT IN MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES SO THINGS LIKE THIS CAN BE HEADED OFF.

>> I'M LOOKING AT SENATOR.

IS THAT SOMETHING BEING TALKED ABOUT?

>> I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IMPRESSION THAT ANYONE DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE IS GOING TO BE VIOLENT.

I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO SEEK COUNSELLING, THERAPY, AND THEY ARE NOT VIOLENT PEOPLE.

WE WANT TO PUT A SPOTLIGHT THAT THE WEIGHT OF SIX MASS SHOOTINGS IS ON BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT.

I BELIEVE LEGISLATION DOES WORK WHEN IT COMES TO POLICY.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE RED FLAG LAW.

THERE ARE OTHER POLICIES WE CAN DO TO CURVE THE TREND AS IT RELATES TO ACCESS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WHO ARE FIT MENTALLY TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THAT GUN IN A SAFE MANNER GETS ACCESS TO IT.

IF YOU LOOK AT IT NATIONALLY, MANY OF THESE SHOOTER BY THE GUN AND KILL PEOPLE THE SAME THING.

IT IS HOMICIDE AND SUICIDE AT THE SAME TIME.

THE SAME DAY.

>> A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO STATISTICS SHOWED HATE CRIMES IN COLORADO HAVE DOUBLED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

THE NUMBERS ARE HIGHER.

IN COLORADO IT IS ESPECIALLY HIGH WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MOTIVATION BY SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

>> IT WAKES US UP TO THE NEED FOR CONVERSATION.

A LOT OF THE PEOPLE UNLESS IN THIS CASE DROVE THIS PERSON TO CLUB Q.

THERE IS ALWAYS HATRED INVOLVED.

THERE IS RHETORIC WE ARE TIED WITH.

UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEIR LIFE, THERE IS NO POINT IN TALKING.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE TO PULL TOGETHER AND SIT WITH PEOPLE WE WOULDN'T NORMAL SIT NEXT TO AND LISTEN.

>> WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE INTERNET.

THAT IS A HUGE PART.

YOU MENTIONED COLUMBINE THAT WASN'T AROUND.

THAT CONTINUES ON THE INTERNET.

>> THAT'S WHERE YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THE ALLEGED SHOOTER.

YOU FIND THE GROUPS WHERE THEY ARE SHARING THE SAME RUMORS.

THEY ARE TALKING TO EACH OTHER IN THIS SAME BLACK HOLE.

GEORGE MENTIONED EVIL.

IT IS EVIL OUT THERE.

WHERE THESE KIDS GREW UP.

THESE ARE YOUNG MEN FOR THE MOST PART GAVE SIGNALS THEY WERE PROBLEMS.

THERE ARE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH LISTENING AND TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT IT.

>> IT SEEMS THAT WOULD BE A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO PROSECUTE?

>> IT IS VERY DIFFICULT.

MOTIVATE IS ALMOST A COMPONENT BUT NEVER AN ELEMENT OF THE CRIME UNLESS YOU CHARGE A BIAS MOTIVATED CRIME.

THAT IS TOUGH.

YOU ARE TRYING TO GET IN SOMEONE'S HEAD.

WAS ARE ACCUSTOM TO THINGS LIKE GREED, ANGER TO ADD ON TO IT THE REASON FOR THE ANGER, THE REASON FOR THE REVENGE IT IS CHALLENGING.

YOU HAVE TO RELY UPON PAST STATEMENTS, PAST CONDUCT, PAST RIGHTINGS UNTIL THEY SAY THING TO VICTIMS.

THIS IS IMPORTANT.

I AGREE THAT LEGISLATION MATTERS.

I AGREE WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY, EVERY TIME SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS WE NEED TO SEE HOW THE LAW COULD ADDRESS THIS.

IF FOR EXAMPLE A UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK HAD ALL EXISTED BACK IN 1998.

NONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE PREVENTED COLUMBINE, THE AURORA MASSACRE.

HOW THE WEAPONS WERE OBTAIN AND WHAT WAS KNOWN ABOUT THE PEOPLE BEFOREHAND.

SO YES, IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

LET'S NOT CONVINCE OURSELF THAT LAW WILL PREVENT EVIL FROM SHOWING ITS UGLY HEAD.

>> IN COLORADO 2021.

THESE WERE NAMED TO BIAS MOTIVATED CRIMES.

>> YES.

I WAS ONE OF THE SPONSORS OF CHANGING THE LEGISLATION TO INCLUDE BIAS MOTIVATED CRIME.

BASICALLY THERE IS A HISTORY.

MANY OF THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HATE IN THEIR HEART OR WANT TO KILL OR HURT OTHER PEOPLE, TYPICALLY IT IS ON THE INTERNET.

I THINK WE NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME LOOKING AT HATE AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH STRATEGIES.

NOT LEGISLATION.

NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE LEGISLATED.

ESPECIALLY MORALITY.

HATE IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO CONTROL IF WE CAN BECAUSE A PERSON IS INNOCENT.

JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE POOR YOU SHOULDN'T BE BULLIED.

JUST BECAUSE OF YOUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

PEOPLE DECIDE TO BULLY BECAUSE YOU ARE PRETTY.

AND THEN SOME PEOPLE HURT THEMSELVES.

ESPECIALLY YOUNG KIDS, THEY CAN'T PROCESS THAT IN REFERENCE TO DEMEANING THEMSELVES.

THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR LIFE DOESN'T HAVE VALUE.

SO MY GOOD FRIEND SAID IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE OUTCOME.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THOSE CASES.

WE DON'T KNOW THE CASES WHERE IT HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

>> IF YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON THE ONES THAT THOSE HAPPEN LIKE CLUB Q AND OTHERS IT DIDN'T PREVENT THOSE.

WE CANNOT KEEP COMING UP WITH REALISTIC SOLUTIONS TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING.

THAT'S WHY I SAID, BACKGROUND CHECKS.

AT LEAST IT IS SOMETHING.

>> USUALLY AT THIS POINT WE HAVE A LIGHTNING ROUND WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE GOOD AND THE BAD THAT TRANSPIRED DURING THE WEEK.

I THINK WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE BAD AND THE LIVES LOST AND LIVES AFFECTED.

LET'S GO AROUND AND TALK ABOUT THE LIGHT THAT HAS COME OUT OF THIS TRAGEDY.

OR THE LISTENS THAT WE CAN BUILD ON.

ANYTHING THAT CAN FIND.

>> I'M GOING BACK TO ANOTHER TRAGEDY.

THE SAND CREEK MASSACRE WHICH WAS THE DARKEST CHAPTER.

SOME LIGHT COME OUT OF IT.

THERE IS AN EXCELLENT EXHIBIT WHICH PUTS IT IN CONTEXT.

PEOPLE GO TO IT.

IT SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH UNDERSTANDING IS NEEDED FOR EVERYTHING.

>> GEORGE?

>> IN EVERY ONE OF THESE DARK HORRIBLE EVENTS IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A GLIMPSE OF GOODNESS AT ITS PUREST FORM.

THEY TRADED THEIR LIVES FOR THE WOMEN THEY WERE WITH.

AT S.T.E.M.

WE HAD CASTILLO.

HERE AT CLUB Q WE SAW PEOPLE STOOD UP TO EVIL AND DID THINGS COULDN'T BRING THEMSELVES TO DO IN THAT MOMENT.

IN THOSE THINGS, I THINK YOU CAN FIND A CERTAINTY BEAUTY IN THE HUMAN SPIRIT.

I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT RICHARD IS AN ARMY VETERAN.

THAT IS THE RIGHT BRANCH.

THINGS LIKE THAT MAKE YOU THINK I HAVE HOPE FOR HUMANITY.

THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE LIKE THAT THAN THE EVIL THAT SHOWED UP.

>> I JUST WANT TO THANK LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE FIRST RESPONDERS.

IN THE STATE OF COLORADO WE DON'T HAVE THIS HESITATION NOT TO RESPOND.

WHEN I THINK WHEN WE HAD IN TEXAS WE HAD OFFICERS JUST HANGING OUT, WE HAD IN MANY SITUATIONS AURORA, COLUMBINE THEY WERE THERE IMMEDIATELY.

THEY WERE THERE IMMEDIATELY.

WHAT WE CAN EACH DO AS INDIVIDUALS, AS CITIZENS IS TO BE MINDFUL OF OUR OWN SPEECH AND OUR OWN LANGUAGE AND OUR OWN WAY THAT WE WALK IN THIS WORLD.

THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T TOLERATE SOMEONE BELITTLING SOMEONE.

IF SOMEONE USING HATE SPEECH WE NEED TO STOP AND CORRECT THAT RIGHT NOW AND JUST DO WHAT WE CAN DO CHANGE THE COURSE OF CONVERSATION.

WE CAN'T LET THEM GO ON ALONG THEIR WAY AND THEY HURT SOMEONE.

WE DID NOT CHECK THAT HATE OUT THAT WE JUST HEARD.

>> I THINK I'M REALLY PROUD OF MY CITY.

I'M PROUD FOR THE CITY THAT SHOWED UP TO HAVE THAT FLAG ON CITY HALL.

I MOVED THERE TEN YEARS AGO.

IF YOU WOULD TOLD ME IT WOULD BE HANGING THERE I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE OUT OF YOUR MIND.

THE INTERFACE COMMUNITY IS COMING TOGETHER SUPPORTING NOT JUST UP BUT OTHER MINORITIES THAT NEED TO BE DEFENDED.

WE HAVE A WAY FORWARD.

WE DO THIS TOGETHER.

>> THANK YOU ALL FOR SHARING.

I KNOW IT WAS A TOUGH SUBJECT.

IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO COME TOGETHER TONIGHT TALK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD AND WHAT WE CAN DO PERSONALLY.

RIGHT?

WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT OF AMERICANS IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS.

WE ALSO LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER, UNDER OUR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES MAKE SURE NO MORE INNOCENT LIVES ARE TAKEN.

WE WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS SHARE THEM WITH US ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES.

ONE MORE REMINDER YOU CAN CATCH THIS SHOW ON YOUTUBE AND PBS12.

THANK YOU I'M KYLE DYER.

WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK ON "COLORADO INSIDE OUT."