>> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETS.. THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.

>> CHILLY DAY IN ST. LOUIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION OF "DONNYBROOK".

IT'S GOI.. WE HOPE, IN MAY WHEN WE HAVE DONNYBASH, AND WE WILL INVITE YOU TO JOIN US BEFORE THE HOUR IS OVER.

I HOPE YOU STAY TUNE.. SURE YOU CONTRIBUTE TO NINE PBS.

LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS BEFORE WE GET INTO THIS WEEK'S TOPIC, STARTING WITH WENDY WIESE, THE MEDIA VETERAN.

JASON ROSENBLUM SETTING IN FOR BILL MCCLELLAN.

THERE IS SARAH FENSKE JOINING US FROM ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE AND ALVIN REID FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.

WEND..

SURPRISING WEEK WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT THE HEAD OF THE BIG BUSINESS ORGANIZATION, GREATER ST. LOUIS INC. HAD DECIDED TO LEAVE TOWN.

JASON HALL HAD BEEN AT THE TOP OF THE ORGANIZATION.

HE WAS QUOTED IN THE NEWS ALMOST AS MUCH, I THINK, AS A LOT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.

HE WAS ALSO THE GUY WHO WAS THE TOP CHEERLEADER FOR ST. LOUIS TRYING TO EXPAND THE POPULATION AND PROMOTE ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND HE WAS ALSO TRYING TO DEM THE BRAIN DRAIN.

IS IT KIND OF WEIRD FOR A REGION WHEN THAT KIND OF GUY MOVES OUT OF TOWN?

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT UNUSUAL, BUT I THINK THAT ANYBODY WHO BELIEVES THAT THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HIS RECENT POWER STRUGGLE WITH MEGAN GREEN AND THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN AND HIS PLANS FOR THE RAMS MONEY, I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE SHORTSIGHTED.

I THINK THAT THIS HAD BEEN BREWING FOR A WHILE.

I THINK I SAID TWO WEEKS AGO TONIGHT THAT HE'S A MAN WITH A PLAN, AND I DON'T KNOW OF IF HIS PLAN AT THE TIME WAS TO LEAVE ST. LOUIS.

HE HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE.

OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE VERY DIFFERENT CAMPS ON HOW EFFECTIVE HE HAS BEEN.

BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF THE WHOLE SETTING US UP AS NOT SO MUCH AS THE BREWERY ERA BUT THE GO SPACIAL ERA, BUT WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS ALL THE STATEMENTS FROM THE BOLD FACED NAMES IN THE NEWS, IT WAS FIVE STARS.

..

EXPERIENCE.

I WI..

THIS HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH MAYBE STEPPING ON TOES.

>> I THINK THAT -- I MEAN, PEOPLE TAKE OTHER JOBS.

>> EVERY DAY.

>> THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT TH.. YOU LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY, AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE PAID.

SOMETIMES YOU JUST DECIDE I'M GOING TO GO FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT'S WHAT'S BEST FOR MY FUTURE.

I'..

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS AT ST. LOUIS PUBLIC RADIO OR BUSINESS JOURNAL, I HAD NO IDEA THE CONFLICTS WERE GOING ON IN THE OFFICE, THAT THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT MANAGERIAL STYLE AND ALL OF THAT.

I HAD NO IDEA UNTIL I READ THAT.

I THINK THAT COULD HAVE PLAYED THE PART IN IT, ALSO.

I THINK HE DID A GREAT JOB FOR WHAT HE WAS BEING ASKED TO DO.

I LIKE RAY, WHO WAS ON THE SHOW, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT GREATER ST. LOUIS THING FROM THE JUMP, AND ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWERED, BUT I THINK HE DID A GOOD JOB.

ONTO THE NEXT JOB.

THAT'S ALL I SAY.

>> PROOF OF THE GOOD JOB HE DID IS THE FACT HE'S THE BOLD FACED NAME WHERE WE FEEL KIND OF SHOCKED HE'S LEAVING.

BEFORE HE HELPED CREATE THE ORGANIZATION TO SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE ON BEHALF OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY AT THE TABLE AND PART OF THE CONVERSATION IN THE SAME KIND OF DOMINANT WAY THAT HE PUT THEM INTO THE TABLE AND THAT KIND OF CONVERSATION.

A LOT OF PROGRESSIVES HAVE BEEN ANNOYED ABOUT THAT, AND HOW THEY TELL THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS TO SPEND THE MONEY, BUT SINCE JASON WAS SUCH AN ENERGETIC PRESENCE AND SO GOOD AT WORKING THE ROOMS HE WAS IN, HE GOT IN THOSE ROOMS, AND HE CHANGED THE CONVERSATION.

I THINK .. MISS HIS ENERGY.

PART OF WHAT MADE HIM SOMEWHAT CRCONTROVERSIAL, HE WAS A GO GETTER.

>.. GOVERNMENT MENTAL ARENA, I THINK HE ALMOST BECAME THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT STAR.

AND IT GOT BLOCKED, AND HE DECIDED HE HAD A HIGHER THRESHOLD FOR PAIN AND WANTED TO BE PART OF ST. LOUIS.

AND THEY ARE BOTH PRETTY PAINFUL IN THEIR OWN WAYS.

I THINK ANYBODY WHO REPLACES JASON HALL HAS A REALLY MONUMENTAL CHALLENGE JUST BECAUSE THE REGION IS SO FRAGMENTED.

THER.. COMPETITION FOR BUSINESSES, LIKE NOT ONLY DO ST. LOUIS AND ST. LOUIS COUNTY OFTEN COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER FOR LARGE JOBS BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE LOOMING PRESENCE OF ST. CHARLES WHICH NOW HAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE PEOPLE THAN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS AND IT TRYING TO BECOME KIND OF ITS SEPARATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POWER HOUSE IN THE REGION.

I .. IS REALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO STOP A LOT OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE THINGS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH PERSUASION OR GOVERNMENTAL POLICY BUT THE REALITY.

>> IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

YOU ARE RIGHT.

YOU HAVE THREE STRONG CO.. YOU HAVE GOT ANOTHER STATE.

EVEN WITHIN THE CITY, THE POWERS DISPURSE SO MUCH NO ONE HAS IT, SO AS THE HEAD OF GREATER ST. LOUIS INC. YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND AND SHAKE HANDS AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS.

IT'S ALM.. SULLIVAN SHOW WHEN THE GUY WAS RUNNING AROUND KEEPING THE PLATES ON THE STILTS, WHATEVER IT WAS.

I THINK ALVIN HIT THE PO.. MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE REASON.

ACCORDING TO ST. LOUIS BUSINESS JOURNAL, HIS MANAGEMENT STYLE WAS QUESTIONED AND SO THE BOARD OF GREATER ST. LOUIS INC. MADE HIM GO THROUGH SOME MANAGEMENT TRAINING.

I THINK THAT'S PRE.. TO THE HEAD OF AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THAT.

I'VE.. >> IT'S SOMEWHAT INSULTING BUT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM BEHIND THE SCENES, IT WAS NOT THE REASON.

IT WAS AN INTERESTING SCOOP THAT THEY HAD HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STORY.

WHEN IT BROUGHT FIVE ORGANIZATIONS TOGETHER, THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THEY.. TO GET RID OF AND DID GET RID OF.

BEEN PUSHED OUT.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT HE SET OUT TO DO.

>> ULTIMATE IR.. BROUGHT UP THE PROGRESSIVES, PROGRESSIVES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE TRYING TO GET RID OF US DINOSAURS AND YET THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE NOW MOVING COMFORTABLY INTO THE ROLE OF THE DINOSAURS AND PROTECTING -- THAT'S GENERATIONAL.

>> SUDDENLY I WAS THE EDITOR.

>> HERE IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.

YOU CAN FIND ON THE NINE PBS YOUTUBE CHANNEL, WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHO SHOULD REPLACE JASON HALL AS THE HEAD OF GREATER ST. LOUIS INC.

THE QUESTION SHOULDN'T THERE BE A REPLACEMENT AT THE I.R.S.

DONALD TRUMP, THE PRESIDENT ELECT, THINKS SO JACE SON, AND RIGHT NOW DAVID WUFFLE IS THERE.

HE WAS APPOINTED IN 2017 BY PRESIDENT BIDEN.

SINCE 1998, IT'S BEEN EXPECTED THAT THE I.R.S.

COMMISSIONER WOULD BE APOLITICAL AND SERVE FIVE YEARS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE PRESIDENT ELECT WANTS TO APPOINT A MISSOURIAN, BILLY LONG, A CONGRESSMAN, WHO WAS AN AUCTIONEER AT THAT TRADE.

IS THAT THE SKILL NEEDED TO BE THE NEXT COMMISSIONER OF THE I.R.S.?

>> EVERYBODY WHO TWE..

THIS POINTED OUT THAT HE AUCTIONED OFF LAURA LOOMER'S PHONE, WHICH WAS AMAZING, AND I THINK IT PROBABLY MAKES HIM VERY QUALIFIED TO RUN THE I.R.S.

IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, I GOT TO KNOW BILLY LONG WHEN HE RAN FOR THE U.S. SENATE IN 2022, AND HE CLEARLY HAS THE FOLK SILVER LINING SHICT.

HE'S ACTUALLY VERY SHARP.

HE WAS IN CONGRESS FOR, I THINK, OVER A DECADE, WHICH KNOWS THE OVERSIGHT STRUCTURE THERE.

IS HE INSANELY QUALIFIED FOR THIS POST?

I MEAN, IS HE LESS QUA.. THAN THE GUY HE APPOINTED FOR DEFENSE SECRETARY WHO WAS A FOX NEWS HOST?

I WOULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT BECAUSE HE'S A FORMER MEMBER OF CONGRESS, I THINK HE'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BETTER CHOICES.

I KIND OF FUNNY AND ENTERTAINING, AND MAYBE I HAVE A BIAS THERE.

BUT I .. A PICK.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST BILLY LONG.

I OFTEN FIND HIS SCHIT A LIT.. CHARMING.

IT'S.. SOMETHING WHERE A PRESIDENT SWEEPS IN, PUTS THE GUY IN CHARGE OF THE I.R.S.

AND GO AFTER THE ENEMIES, WHICH TRUMP KEEPS SIGNALING HE WANTS TO DO.

BUT BILLY LONG PASSED THIS LAW THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO CRACK DOWN ON PUPPY MILLS, AND IT ENDED UP BEING APPROVED BY THE VOTERS.

AND BILLY LONG COSIGNS WITH THE I.R.S.

SAYING TAKE AWAY THE TAX EXEMPT STATUS.

IS TRUMP INTERESTED IN HIM BECAUSE HE'S WILLING TO GO AFTER TRUMP'S ENEMIES?

IT MAKES ME A LITTLE NERVOUS.

>> PRESIDENT OBAMA, HE ALSO WEAPONIZED THE I.R.S.

>> IT'S TERRIBLE.

YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT.

>> IT IS TERRIBLE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING NEW.

>> LARRY CONNERS?

>> YOUR POLITICAL ENEMIES.

>> WHATEVER NORMS WE HAVE IN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT ARE NOW ALL OFF.

GET SOME POPCORN.

WATCH THE SHOW.

THAT'S IT.

BILLY LONG, HE AIN'T NO WORSE THAN THESE OTHER FOLKS.

>> I THINK HE'S BETTER THAN RFK JUNIOR, AND WE COULD TALK FOR HOURS ABOUT HIM.

>> HE'S NOT A MISSOURIAN, SO WE WON'T, BUT WE WILL DO IS TALK ABOUT YOU JOINING US IN MAY FOR THE NEXT DONNYBASH.

IT'S THE BIG FUND RAISER.

HERE ARE THE DETAILS.

.

INVITE YOU TO DO TWO THINGS.

BECOME A MEMBER.

IF YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT BECOMING A MEMBER, IT SOUNDS COOL, YOU ARE BEST RIGHT.

AND I WILL TELL YOU A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS HOW TO BECOME A MEMBER, AND WHAT YOU WILL GET IN THAT.

AND MY SECOND THING IS TO DONNYBASH.

ON MAY 8..

BECOME A MEMBER RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN BE INVITED AND ATTEND DONNYBASH LIVE.

EVERY CONVERSATION YOU'VE SEEN ON "DONNYBROOK", TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION, IMAGINE THAT LIVE AT THE SHOW IN THE CONCERT HALL.

AND THE TICKET AT THE 95-DOLLAR LEVEL YOU WILL GET A TICKET TO DONNYBASH ON MAY 8th.

AND IT'S MY FAVORITE PLACE.

I LOVE THAT CONCERT HALL.

BUT THE 15-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE A COMBO OF TWO TICKETS AND THAT BEAUTIFUL NINE PBS MUG.

70 YEARS IS OUR BIRTHDAY MUG AND OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BUT YOU ..

I REALLY WANT THAT MUG.

AND YOU CAN GET THAT MUG.

YOU CAN GET THAT MUG AT $75.

SO WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN BECOME A MEMBER.

SO GIVE US A CALL AT 1-800-568-9099 OR TEXT US AT THAT NUMBER.

YOU KNOW WHAT, THOUGH.

DONNYBASH IS MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE THING HERE IN ST. LOUIS.

PEOPLE, WE HAVE HEARD .. LOUISIANS ALL OVER THAT ABSOLUTELY ADORE THIS AND GET TO SEE THE DOO "DONNYBROOK"ERS, AND 6 "DONNYBROOK"ERS ARE GOING TO BE AT THAT TABLE.

IF YOU HAVE A FAVORITE PERSONALITY, ALL OF THEM WILL BE THERE.

GIVE US .. AT 1-800-568-9099.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER TO MY FRIEND HOLLANDER AND A COUPLE OF VERY FRIENDLY FACES.

>> WE ARE HERE IN THE "DONNYBROOK" STUDIO WITH 3/5 OF "DONNYBROOK" PANEL TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT DONNYBASH COMING UP MAY THE EIGHTH, 2025, AND MAKES A GREAT STOCKING STUFFER, PROBABLY THE SECOND BEST STOCKING STUFFER BESIDES A FOOT.

LET'S BE HONEST.

WITH THE HOLIDAYS COMING UP, YOU'VE GOT EXAMINATION, HANUKKAH, KWANZA, AND LOBSTER FEST, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE OCCASION IS, ALWAYS A GREAT GIFT TO HAVE A TICKET TO DONNYBASH AT THE WONDERFUL SHELDON AUDITORIUM.

IT IS A PUBLIC MEDIA HOLIDAY, I THINK, IS A FAIRWAY TO PUT IT.

IT'S A PUBLIC MEDIA HOLIDAY, AND WE ARE HERE WITH ALVIN AND CHARLIE AND WENDY WHO WILL ALL BE THERE, AND I GUESS WE WILL LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG OR THE CAT OUT OF THE STOCKING.

THIS TABLE IS GOING TO BE VERY FULL AT DONNYBASH, BECAUSE THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER THERE ARE GOING TO BE 6 "DONNYBROOK"ERS AT THE TABLE.

THE THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ASSEMBLED HERE AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE BILL MCCLELLAN AND SARAH FENSKE AND JOE HOLLEMAN.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE EVENT.

SHOW.

NO..

BUT IT'S ALSO LIVE.

WHAT WITH A GOES INTO THE PREPARATION?

>> HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK WE PREPARE MUCH DIFFERENTLY.

OFTEN WE'RE THE BENEFICIARIES OF THE LOCAL NEWS.

WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD A GREAT CAST OF CHARACTERS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT WHO HAVE HELPED US PUT THIS PROGRAM ON SINCE 1987.

GENERATING STORIES WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT.

THAT'S THE ONE THING.. A PROBLEM, FINDING SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT BUT IT IS A BIG FUND RAISER OF THE YEAR.

LIVE NEWS TALK PROGRAM IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE AS A FUND RAISER.

I THINK IT'S REALLY UNIQUE.

>> IF THEY DO DO IT, THEY CERTAINLY DON'T SPEND TIME WITH THE AUDIENCE LIKE WE DO, TALK ABOUT THE HOUR-LONG SHOW BEFORE THE SHOW AND AFTER THE SHOW, I THINK ALL OF US ARE GETTING OUR CARDS AND IT'S A GOOD TIME.

IT'S A FUN EVENING.

MAY 8th, PROBABLY SPECTACULAR WEATHER, REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

>> THE ENERGY IS REALLY SOMETHING.

IT'S.. PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY YOU HAVE TO BE THERE TO FEEL IT TO UNDERSTAND IT, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT IS.

FROM THE MINUT..

THE RECEPTION, IT'S JUST PEOPLE ARE SO HAPPY TO BE THERE.

IT IS DEFINITELY THE COMING TOGETHER OF ALL DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPALITIES, PEOPLE WHO LIVE ACROSS THE RIVER.

IT'S A GREAT CELEBRATION OF EVERYTHING THAT WE LOVE AND MAYBE STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT OUR HOMETOWN.

>> IT REALLY IS.

IT TRULY IS A COMMUNITY EVENT.

IT'S JUST A MUCH A PART OF ST. LOUIS AS THE AVERAGE, AS THE CARDINALS, AS DRIVING ON EXPIRED TAGS.

RIGHT, CHARLIE?

>> THOSE ARE THE BIG TRADITIONS IN ST. LOUIS.

>> IT'S A ST. LOUIS TRADITION, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE VERY EXCITED TO BRING IT TO YOU, BUT NOW WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT BACK TO THE OTHER STUDIO.

>> THE ENERGY IN THAT RING AT DONNYBASH IS REMARKABLE.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THAT, RIGHT?

OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER OF NINE PBS WE GET TO OFFER YOU ONE OF OUR THANK YOU GIFTS.

IT'S OUR WAY OF OFFERING OUR EXTENDED HUG AND APPRECIATION TO YOU Z.

LET ME TELL YO.. ABOUT WHAT YOU WILL GET WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER.

AT THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE THE MUG, NINE PBS BIRTHDAY MUG.

IT'S ABS..

IT'S A BEAUTY.

I CAN'T WAIT TO DRINK MY HOT COCOA OUT OF THAT EVERY NIGHT AFTER A LONG DAY WITH THE CHRISTMAS TREE UP.

AT THE 95-DOLLAR LEVEL YOU WILL AT THE SHELDON HALL.

THAT SHOW IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

IF YOU ARE AT HOME, AND YOU SAY OH, MY GOODNESS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL THE DONNYBROOKERS LIVE ON STAGE AND ENGAGE WITH THEM.

COME ON TOWN.

AT THE 15-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU GET A PAIR OF TICKETS, AND ALSO THAT BEAUTIFUL NINE PBS 70t70th70th BIRTHDAY MUG.

LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE CELEBRATED 70 YEARS AT NINE PBS, AND WE CAN CONTINUE 70 MORE YEARS BECAUSE OF VIEWERS LIKE YOURSELF.

WHEN WE READ THE FEEDBACK ..

LISTEN TO ALL THE COMMENTS ABOUT PAST ATTENDEES TO PAST ATTENDEES, THEY LOVE IT SO MUCH.

GIVE US A CALL OR TEXT US AT 1-800-568-9099, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING TO HOP BACK INTO THE SHOW.

>> WE WILL SEE YOU IN MAY.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF NINE PBS.

SARAH, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A STORY THAT BROKE TODAY, AND THAT IS THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A VP PARADE THIS JULY 4th.

THE ORGANIZATION THAT FOR A LONG TIME HAS RUN THAT PARADE, VP ST. LOUIS HAS DECIDED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PARADE, NOT SURE WHERE, MAYBE DELMAR IN OCTOBER.

BIG LOSS FOR DOWNTOWN IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS?

>> I'M KIND OF BUMMED OUT.

I LIKED THIS PARADE COMING DOWNTOWN.

IT H.. HIGH SCHOOL MARCHING BANDS, AND YOU MEAN, IT WAS A GREAT ST. LOUIS TRADITION.

I'M BUMMED ABOUT THIS.

PART OF THIS, WHAT'S GOING ON IS VP ST. LOUIS IS TRYING TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM THE VEILED PROVE IT THING, AND RIGHTLY SO, AND THE GREAT IRONY IS THEY ARE MOVING THEIR PARADE TO FALL, THE ORIGINAL VP ST. LOUIS FAIR.

AND THAT WAS IN OCTOBER.

>> THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM THE HISTORICAL ISSUES WITH THE VEIL PROFIT ORGANIZATION FOR 25, 30 YEARS.

>> OR MAYBE .. >> I'M LIKE YOU.

IT MAKES ME SAD BECAUSE WE NEED SO -- IN THE SAME WAY WE WENT DOWNTOWN AND SAW THE CHRISTMAS DISPLAYS IN THE WINDOWS AND THAT KIND OF THING, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CHILDREN THAT WE FOSTER A LOVE FOR DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS, AND I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT BETWEEN THE CARDINALS AND -- IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN HAPPENING A LONG, LONG TIME.

WHETHER IT'S THE CARDINALS OR THE VP PARADE AS SARAH IS SAYING, THIS IS A PART OF OUR HISTORY, AND LET'S NOT SANITIZING TOO MUCH.

>> THE ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE, THE LABOR DAY PARADE, THE VETERANS DAY PARADE, AND YOU HAVE THE PRIDE PARADE.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FOURTH OF JULY PARADES THERE ARE.

IT'S POSSIBLE THAT PUTTING IT IN OCTO-IS THAT WHEN YOU SAID?

IT COULD POSSIBLY GET MORE ATTENTION.

>> GER..

THE NATION'S INDEPENDENCE?

>> I'M POLISH BECAUSE I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED THAT BECAUSE THEY REMAIN IN-HOUSE.

YOU KNOW.

>> LOOK.

LOVE IT, HATE IT, I FEEL LIKE WE REALLY WERE SOMETHING BACK IN THE '80s ON THE FOURTH OF JULY WEEKEND.

>> HUGE.

NATIONAL.

>> NATIONAL.

ONE OF.. SHOWS IN THE NATION.

IT WAS COVERED.

LET'S NOT GIVE THAT AWAY.

LET'S TRY TO RECLAIM THAT.

CALL THE PARADE SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT LET'S HAVE THE PARADE.

>> IT'S UNGODLY HOT.

>> IF I WAS VP ST. LOUIS, I WOULD SAY EVERY CHANCE YOU GET, YOU CRITICIZE ME FOR HISTORICAL PROBLEMS I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH, AND YET YOU EXPECT SO MUCH OUT OF ME.

WHY DON'T YOU PUT YOUR OWN PARADE UP?

WHY DOESN'T ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE HOST SOME SORT OF PARADE?

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

LET'S STILL HAVE A PARADE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE VP.

BUT LET'S RECLAIM THE FOURTH OF JULY FOR ST. LOUIS.

>> SO THE AMERICAN WILL BE TAKING THE LEAD WITH THIS PARADE.

>.. FENSKE PARADE.

>> BACK IN THE '80s, YOU HAD A VIRTUAL WAR BETWEEN SOME MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA, RAY HARTMANN, AND CIVIC PROGRESS.

THAT WAS.. NOBODY SAID I'M GOING TO TAKE MY TOYS AND GO HOME.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

>> THEY ARE NOT DOING IT, BUT THEN AGAIN, WHAT DO THEY OWE YOU AT THIS POINT?

>> I WAN.. ST. LOUIS, THEY ARE GOING TO DO TWO FULL NIGHTS OF MUSIC AND FIREWORKS, AND I AM REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

MY FAVORITE THING IN THE WORLD IS FIREWORKS.

>> I CRITICIZE THAT HEAVILY.

>> THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE VP CELEBRATIONS HAD ELTON JOHN, RAY CHARLES.

.. WITH THE PARADE.

>> COMING BACK TO THE ARCH GROUNDS AND COMING BACK TOO TWO NIGHTS.

THAT'S R.. FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE.

>> ALVIN, IT'S REPORTED BY THE ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH THAT THE ST. LOUIS AREA SCHOOLS JUST ON THE MISSOURI SIDE, ST. LOUIS CITY HAS LOST 6,000 STUDENTS IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

COMBINE THAT WITH 3,000 FROM THE COUNTY AND ABOUT 872 OUT OF ST. CHARLES COUNTY.

YOU ARE ALMOST TALKING 11,000, 10,000 STUDENTS WHO ARE NO LONGER IN CLASSROOMS.

DO YOU THINK IT'S BECAUSE MORE KIDS ARE MOVING OUT OF TOWN, PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING KIDS, OR MOMS AND DADS ARE HOMESCHOOLING?

>> I GUESS IT HAS TO BE ALL THREE, BECAUSE 11,000 KIDS AREN'T GETTING HOMESCHOOLED.

MOST FAMILIES LIVE IN METROPOLITAN AREAS AREN'T HOMESCHOOLING.

I ACTUAL..

NUMBER.

KIDS DON'T EVAPORATE.

I REALLY HAVE TO SEE, WAIT A MINUTE.

I'M JUST NOT BUYING THAT N..

IT MAY BE CORRECT, BUT I'M NOT BUYING IT.

>> I THINK THE NUMBER .. DISCOVERABLE BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE REIMBURSED PER STUDENT.

.. INFORMATION.

I TH..

SOLID.

.. 52,000 PEOPLE LIVE IN KIRKWOOD.

>> THERE'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT STUDY THAT JUST CAME OUT OF, I BELIEVE, ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY THAT SAID THE NUMBER OF KIDS HOMESCHOOLING IN MISSOURI IS WAY UP.

THE PANDEMIC, AND YOU SEE THERE'S SOME FACTORS THAT BEGIN TO EXPLAIN PART OF THIS.

>> THAT'S THE LARGEST NUMBER.

>> IT'S ACROSS THE REGION, AND IT EVEN INCLUDES SCHOOLS IN ST. CHARLES.

>> ANONE OUT OF FIVE..

KIDS MOVED OUT.

>> WHAT WAS SO INTERESTING, A COUPLE POINTS THAT REALLY JUMPED OUT, 2014 IS WHEN THE REALLY STEEP DECLINE BEGAN.

IT WAS THE SUMMER OF MICHAEL BROWN.

CONNECTION WITH THAT.

THE OTHER THING WAS UNIVERSITY CITY IS ONE OF THE 8 SCHOOL DISTRICTS DOING VERY WELL AND ACTUALLY PERFORMING IN TERMS OF POPULATION OR CENSUS WITH PREPANDEMIC -- THEY HAVE PREPANDEMIC NUMBERS OR THEY ARE EXCEEDING PREPANDEMIC NUMBERS AND ST. LOUIS CITY IS CREDITING THEIR BOOM TO ST. LOUIS LANGUAGE COURSES AND THEY CONSOLIDATED PARENTAL TEACHER ORGANIZATION WHERE ALL THE SPLINTER GROUPS HAVE COME TOGETHER AND THEY SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE.

>> I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERPRET.

I MAKE THIS POINT ALL THE TIME, AND YES, IT PERSONALLY AFFECTS ME.

LOUIS BECAUSE OUR DOCTOR TOLD US WHEN OUR SON WAS DIAGNOSED WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY THAT WE NEED TO GO TO A SPECIAL SCHOOL DISTRICT IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY.

I ACTUALLY TALKED WITH THE PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF SPECIAL EDUCATION FUNDING FOR A LONG TIME.

THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT A LOT OF PARENTS IN ST. LOUIS CITY ENCOUNTER, WHITE, BLACK, HISPANIC, WHATEVER.

THE SOLUTION IS NOT THAT EASY.

I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT 60 YEARS AGO IF THE CITY WAS PART OF SPECIAL SCHOOL DISTRICT SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PART OF BRAIN DRAIN.

WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE -- WHEN I SAY PEOPLE, POLITICAL LEADERS DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM, BECAUSE AS LONG AS THERE IS A SPECIAL SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT HAS 5 OR $600 MILLION TO PAY SPECIAL EDUCATION PERSONNEL, THEY ARE GOING TO GO THERE, AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GO TO SLPS, AND THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T MOVE ARE GOING TO SUFFER.

>> JASON, VERY GOOD POINT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING THAT.

AND CORT VAN.. AGAINST ANN WAGNER IN 2018 AND LOST, AND SHE WAS REELECTED TO HER SEAT IN CONGRESS, HAS BEEN NOMINATED BY DR. SAM PAGE THE ST. LOUIS COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO BE THE NEXT PROSECUTING ATTORNEY SUCCEEDING WESLEY BELL WHO OF COURSE IS GOING TO CONGRESS.

IT'S BEEN REPORTED THAT VANOSTRAN HAS QUIT HIS JOB WITH THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

BUT THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO APPOINT THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY.

DO YOU THINK VANOSTRAN QUI.. LITTLE TOO EARLY?

>> I ASSUME WE WILL FIND OUT.

NO.

1, THE JUDGE THAT'S DEALING WITH THE CASE COULD SAY THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS THE RIGHT TO APPOINT BELL'S REPLACEMENT.

BY THE WAY, I TALKED WITH THE GOVERNOR TODAY.

HE HAS NOT INTERVIEW.. SAN FRANCISCO, HAS INTERVIEWED THREE PEOPLE AND VANOSTRAN IS NOT ONE OF THEM.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE THE MIND MEDAMELD BETWEEN SAM PAGE AND MIKE PARSON.

HE.. JUMP OVER BUT I LIKE CORT VANOSTRAN.

FULL.. AND A HALF AWAY FROM ME AND HAS GIVEN ME MY KIDS HALLOWEEN.

HE'S WELL LIKED BY A LOT OF DEMOCRATS PARTICULARLY IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE HE WOULD RESIGN IF HE DIDN'T KNOW SOMETHING.

HE'S TOO INTELLIGENT.. THAT JOB BEHIND AND ITS SALARY TO GO BACK TO PRIVATE PRACTICE.

HE WANTS TO BE OBVIOUSLY INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY SERVICE POLITICALLY.

I DO.. HIS JOB.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FI..

BUT I THINK THE FIX IS IN.

>> YOU ARE OPTIMISTIC.

I DON'T LIKE TO QUIT A JOB UNTIL I HAVE THE NEXT ONE LINED UP.

>> I THINK ALVIN IS RIGHT.

>> YOU ARE CONCERNED HE HASN'T SERVED IN THE PROSECUTORS OFFICE.

AND I ..

GRAYING OF THE TEMPLES.

>> HOW ABOUT CREDENTIALS AND EXPERIENCE?

>>.. PEOPLE TO JAIL.

THAT'S PRETTY EASY.

KIM GARDNER NEVER HAD IT.

>> SPEAKING OF QUESTIONS, OUR QUESTION IS WILL YOU JOIN US IN MAY?

IT'S DON.. WE HOPE YOU DO.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AGAIN FOR THE WONDERFUL EPISODE OF DONNYBROOK.

IF ALREADY..

SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE EXTRA DIVE AND BECOME A MEMBER, I WANT TO TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THE THINGS WE WANT TO OFFER TO YOU TONIGHT AT THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE THE LOVELY PBS NINE MUG.

IT'S CELEBRATING 70 YEARS.

WE TURN 70 THIS YEAR, YOU ALL.

I CANNOT BELIEVE IT.

IT'S ONLY BECAUSE OF VIEWERS JUST LIKE YOURSELF.

WE CAN ONLY DO 70 MORE YEARS WITH YOUR SUPPORT.

SO THAT'S THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL.

AT THE 95-DOLLAR LEVEL, WE CAN OFFER YOU THIS AMAZING TICKET TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE ON STAGE.

IF YOU ARE LOVING THIS EPISODE THAT YOU'RE WATCHING RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN IMAGINE YOURSELF LIVE IN THE AUDIENCE AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL ON MAY 8th.

IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT WEATHER, FINGERS CROSSED.

IT'S AT 5:30.

ATTEND A COCKTAIL PARTY BEFORE AND COCKTAIL PARTY AFTER.

GUESS WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE?

THE DONNYBROOKERS.

AT THE 15-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE TWO TICKETS, AND THAT LOVELY MUG THAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT.

AND YOU ARE CELEBRATING 70 YEARS, BUT YOU ARE ALSO GOING TO DONNYBASH.

WHO WOUL.. THAT.

ALL TH.. YOU WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER.

GIVE US A CALL OR TEXT 1-800-568-9099 AND BECOME A MEMBER RIGHT NOW.

I WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO MISS DONNYBASH.

IT'S.. YOU GET TO HEAR THE CONVERSATION, MUCH LIKE YOU ARE HEARING TONIGHT.

YOU GET TO HEAR THAT..

PERSON.

IT..

RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER TO THE TABLE WITH MY FRIEND YALE AND THE DONNYBROOKERS.

>> THANK YOU.

WE ARE BACK AT THE BIG TABLE.

WE HAVE GOT CHARLIE.

WE HAVE GOT ALVIN.

WE HAVE GOT WENDY, AND WE HAVE GOT DONNYBASH 2025 COMING UP, MAY 8, 2025.

THE GREAT THING ABOUT DONN.. IS IT'S MULTIPLE EVENTS WRAPPED INTO ONE THING.

YOU OF COURSE ARE COMING TO SEE A LIVE 6-0 MINUTE VERSION OF DONNYBROOK.

BUT ..

HAPPY HOUR BEFORE WHERE YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MIX AND MINGLE NOT ONLY WITH YOUR FELL ON DONNYBROOK ENTHUSIASTS BUT ALSO THE PANEL.

THERE WILL ALSO BE EXECUTIVES FROM NINE PBS THERE.

SO YOU GET TO MEET THEM AND GET TO TALK WITH THEM.

THEN AGAIN YOU'VE GOT THE SHOW ITSELF, AND ONE OF THE REALLY FUN PARTS ABOUT WATCHING A LIVE DONNYBROOK IS THAT YOU GET TO SEE ALL OF THE WORK THAT GOES IN ON THE PRODUCTION SIDE, ALL THE WORK WITH THE PRODUCERS AND WITH THE CAMERA PEOPLE AND WITH THE SOUND AND SEEING HOW EVERYTHING KIND OF FITS INTO PLACE TO BRING YOU THIS SHOW EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT IS REALLY VERY, VERY COOL.

THEN AFTER THE SHOW IS OVER, YOU GET TO GO AND HAV HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MIX AND MINGLE WITH EVERYBODY AT THE POST SHOW, THERE'S USUALLY A DESSERT BUFFET, AND IT'S JUST A REALLY, REALLY GOOD TIME, AND THEN YOU ALSO AS PART OF THE SHOW GET THE LIVE Q AND A, YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A PART OF THE DONNYBROOK EXPERIENCE.

THE MICROPHONE WILL BE PASSED BACK AND FORTH ALL THROUGH THE SHOW SO THAT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK WHATSOEVER, YOU GET TO GIVE IT RIGHT TO THE DONNYBROOK CREW.

THAT'S A LOT OF STUFF.

>> CAN YOU GO OVER THOSE ONE MORE TIME?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>>..

THINGS THAT HAPPENS EACH YEAR IS THIS ENTIRE SET MOVES OVER THERE, AND PEOPLE -- THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE SHOW FOR THE FIRST TIME WHO SOMEHOW DON'T THINK THAT THIS SET IS REAL.

THEY ARE SO YOU ARE ACTUALLY REALLY AT A SET?

AND I SAID YEAH.

THEY MOVE IT OVER HERE.

YEAH.

NOW, I THINK IT'S ONE REASON WE HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY MAKE ONE MORE TRIP.

PEOPLE THINK THAT'S COOL.

YEAH.

PICK THE WHOLE THING UP AN..

IT.

>> DESAY THE STATION EXECUTIVES ARE GOING TO BE THERE?

>> WE HOPE SO ANYWAY.

>> I FORGOT.

I GO..

SORRY.

..

EARLIER, IT'S A GREAT HOLIDAY GIFT.

IT'S SO DIFFIC.. FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE EVERYTHING.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, GET ANOTHER TIE?

IT'S AN EXPERIENCE, AND WHO KNOWS HOW LONG THIS DONNYBASH WILL BE GOING ON.

>> WE ARE ALWAYS VERY SURPRISED BY THE HUSBANDS AND WIVES WHO EXCHANGE, AND THIS IS THE GIFT THAT THEY GIVE EACH OTHER.

AND YOU THINK THERE'S NOTHING MORE ROMANTIC THAN SPENDING THE EVENING WITH THE DONNYBROOKERS AT THE SHELDON, BUT THEY DO IT EVERY SINGLE YEAR, AND THAT'S REALLY FUN.

>> GOOD POINT ABOUT TH.. BECAUSE WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING CREW BEHIND THE SCENES LED BY OUR EXECUTIVE PRODUCER AND DIRECTOR ANN MARIE BERGER.

WHEN YOU ARE AT DONNYBASH, YOU CAN SEE IT BEHIND THE SCENES.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

YOU GE..

MANY MILES SHE PUTS ON HER FEET GOING ALL AROUND SHELDON MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS RUNNING SMOOTHLY.

IT'S REALLY CO.. >> THERE'S GREAT PARKING, AND IT'S IN MAY.

SO THE SUN WILL STILL BE UP WHEN WE ARE DRIVING HOME, WHICH FOR ME ANYWAY IS A BIG DEAL.

>> WE ARE HOPING IT WILL BE NICE, AND COOL SPRINGLIKE, AND IT COULD BE 100 DEGREES.

WE COULD HAVE SNOW.

>> YOU JUST NEVER KNOW, AND YOU WILL JOIN US ON MAY 8th TO FIND OUT.

AND WE WILL SEND IT BACK TO THE STUDIO.

>> THEY MENTIONED THAT STAFF WOULD BE THERE AS WELL.

I WILL BE THERE, AND YOU KNOW WHAT?

AND MINGLE WITH ALL OF YOU, GET TO KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE GET TO TALK TO.

AND I JUST INTERACT WITH SOME OF YOU ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT IT'S SO NICE TO SEE YOUR WIL LOVELY FACES.

GI.. 1-800-568-9099, AND WE GOT A COUPLE OF LOVELY GIFTS WE WOULD LOVE TO OFFER YOU AS OUR THANK YOU.

RECEIVE THAT AMAZING NINE PBS 70th BIRTHDAY MUG.

LOOK AT THAT.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.

I USE IT ALL THE TIME, DRINK MY HOT COCOA, COFFEE, TEA, OUT OF IT, AND I ADORE IT.

AT THE 95-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE A TICKET TO SEE Z DONNYBASH LIVE AT THE AMAZING SHELDON CONCERT HALL MAY 8th AT 5:3 5:30 P.M.

IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT SUMMER NIGHT.

YOU WILL RECEIVE 2 TICKETS AND THAT MUG.

SO YOU CAN TREAT ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS, FAMILY MEMBERS, WHOEVER YOU LOVER AND ADORE, TAKE THEM TO THIS RIGHT NOW.

TEXT US AT 1-800-568-9099.

DONNYBASH IS ABSOLUTELY AN AMAZING TIME.

WE READ ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS.

WE TELL YOUR STORIES, AND WE LOVE TO BUILD THAT SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY.

RIGH.. BACK INTO THE REST OF THE CONVERSATION WITH DONNYBROOK.

>> WENDY, I WANT TO ASK YOU A STRANGE STORY.

SOMEONE BY THE NAME OF MICHAEL ROTH WENT TO THE NEW CAM CATHEDRAL, CATHEDRAL BASILICA, AND HE LEFT HS 9-MILLIMETER GUN IN HIS VEHICLE.

.. TO THE POLICE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT IN A LOCKBOX WHICH WAS THE LOCAL ORDINANCE, AND HE WAS ISSUED A CITATION, WHICH WAS LATER DROPPED.

AS.. SUE THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

HE SAID THE CITY CANNOT REGULATORREGULATETHE HANDGUNS, THAT'S EITH ER THE STATE OR THE GOVERNMENT.

>> I AGREE WITH HIM.

I WAS TAKEN ABACK, AND MY JAW ACTUALLY DROPPED WHEN I WAS READING PARTICULARS WHEN HE WAS INSIDE THE CATHEDRAL BASILICA IN MASS, AND THE WEAPON THAT WAS ON HIS CAR SEAT OR WHATEVER IT WAS IN HIS VEHICLE, AND HE WAS PRAYING THE ROSARY, AND YOU KNOW, THE TWO ARE NOT -- YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T CANCEL EACH OTHER OUT.

THERE ARE A ..

GUN OWNERS WHO GO TO CHURCH WHO PRAY FOR THE WORLD.

AND I MEAN -- IT MAKES GREAT COPY.

I DO THINK AS FAR AS THE STATE IS CONCERNED, IN MY WORLD THE STATE'S GUN LAWS WOULD BE PARAMOUNT O.

>> THERE WAS AN ODDITY.

APPARENTLY THE DOOR WAS LOCKED.

I DON'T THINK THE GUN WAS ACTUALLY STOLEN THERE.

HERE IS THE THING, THAT GUN IS OUT THERE ROLLING AROUND, AND IT'S NOT FUNNY IF THAT GUN ENDS UPTAKING SOMEONE'S LIFE.

WOULD I SUE HIM?

I THINK I WOULD.

>> THE CEO OF UNITED HEALTHCARE WAS KILLED.

THE HOCKEY PLAYER FROM HIGH SCHOOL.

NO.

YOU ..

YOUR GUN IF IT'S STOLEN, AND IF THAT'S BY STATUTE OR THAT'S BY WHATEVER.

>&g.. >> THE CITY HAS VERY FEW WAYS OF CRACKING DOWN ON GUNS BECAUSE OF STATE LAW AND BECAUSE OF -- THIS WAS ONE OF THE FEW, AND IT WAS A GOOD COMMON SENSE ONE.

IT WOULD BE SAD TO SEE A LAWSUIT TAKE THIS ONE THING AWAY FROM US.

>> MASSACHUSETTS HAS THI.. BOSTON, AND IF YOU ARE FOUND IN VIOLATION OF IT, IT'S A $5,000 PENALTY AND POSSIBLY IMPRISONMENT, AND THEY HAD 21 HOMICIDES IN ALL OF BOSTON IN 2024, AND THE POPULATION IS DOUBLE OR TRIPLE.

>> CITY ORDINANCE, ALL THEY CAN DO IS A 400-DOLLAR FINE.

>> ALVIN, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT TEACHER STANDARDS.

IN ITS WISDOM .. DECIDED TO LOWER THE GPA THAT A TEACHER HAS TO HAVE IN HIS OR HER FIELD OF TEACHING.

IF YOU'RE TEACHING PHYSICS IN MISSOURI SCHOOLS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST A 2.5 NOW TO TEACH PHYSICS.

.. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT LOWERING THESE STANDARDS?

>> STANDARDS AND DOUBLE STANDARDS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TECHNICALLY TODAY.

IF YOU MAJOR IN ENGINEERING IN THOSE COURSES, DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 3.0 IN YOUR ENGINEERING COURSES TO GRADUATE?

I'M NOT REALLY SURE.

I THINK THAT MY FIRST REACTION WAS THIS, THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO TEACH KIDS IN YOUR EDUCATION CLASSES, GOING TO TEACH MATH IN THE COURSES THAT YOU TOOK, YOU SHOULD HAVE A 3.0GPA.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO ATTAIN.

PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WERE AT LEAST REALLY CLOSE.

I JUST -- BOY, THAT BOTHERS ME.

>> IT'S TOUGH, BECAUSE THERE'S A NATIONWIDE TEACHER SHORTAGE, AND DESPERATE TIMES CALL FOR DID HE DESPERATE MEASURES.

GRADE POINT AVERAGES DON'T ALWAYS ALIGN WITH BEING A GOOD TEACHER, BUT I WOULD HOPE THIS IS TEMPORARY, AND MAYBE IF YOU GET MORE PEOPLE, THEN YOU RAISE THE STANDARD.

>> IF YOU HAVE A 2.5 AT HARVARD, IF THEY ALLOW YOU TO STAY AROUND WITH THE 2.5, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S BETTER THAN IF YOU GO TO.

>> NO ONE AT HARVARD IS GETTING A 2.5.

THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THAT WE HAVE THE TEACHER SHORTAGE TO THE POINT THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO THE HAZELWOOD SCHOOLS HAD WORKERS IN THE ROOM, AND THE TEACHER WAS COMING IN ON THE SCREEN.

A TE..

LEARN.

I WOULD RATHER HAVE A LIVE TEACHER, THAN SOMEBODY WHO IS MASTER TEACHER.

>> YOU HAVE GOT TO PAY THESE PEOPLE.

TH..

IT'S WAY TOO LOW.

IF YOU WANT TO GET THE 4.0 KID TO TEACH GIVE HIM $85,000 A YEAR AS SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO.

>> I THINK THIS IS GOING TO DRAW PEOPLE.

IT SOUND.. TO MAKE IT WORK.

THEY ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT WAYS WITHIN THE MATH AND SCIENCE DISCIPLINES, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK AND STILL BE-FOR THE CHILDREN A POSITIVE THING.

BUT THE WOMAN FROM DESE WHO IS VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO IT AND HAS COME AROUND, THAT GAVE ME A LITTLE HOPE.

BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GRADE POINT AVERAGES WERE.

WHEN THE TEACHERS WERE ENGAGED, THE KIDS WERE, TOO.

>> A PROPOSAL BY MONICA BUTLER, ST. LOUISIAN TO ESTABLISH THE GOSPEL HAL HALL OF FAME AND HUE SEEM IN THE OLD SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH NORTH KINGSHIGHWAY.

SHE'S NOW PARTNERING WITH PGAV WHICH HAS MUSEUMS AND VISITOR CENTERS AROUND THE WORLD.

THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

>> I HOPE SO.

IF SOMEBODY CAN PULL IT OFF, IT'S DR. MONICA BUTLER.

SHE'S SO SMART AND SO ENGAGING AND IT EXPLAINS WHY SHE'S GETTING THE HEAF HITTERS LINED UP FOR THE PROJECT.

ONE OF THE ESTIMATES WAS IT WOULD COST $22 MILLION.

THAT'S NOT A TON OF MONEY.

I GET IT'S CRAZY I'M SAYING THAT.

BUT REALLY IN THE GRAND SC.. OF WHAT WE WANT FOR VARIOUS ATTRACTIONS AND WHAT DONORS ARE WILLING TO PONY UP FOR, IT'S SOMETHING THAT SEEMS DOABLE AND COULD BE REALLY COOL.

>> I DON'T WANT TO BE A NAYSAYER.

22 MILLION FOR THE OLD CHURCH IN NORTH KINGSHIGHWAY, I JUST DON'T KNOW.

TEACHER GRADE POINT AVERAGE, INITIAL REACTION IS I DON'T KNOW.

..

BUT HOW DO YOU PULL THIS IDEA OFF?

>> IF WE COULD USE BOBBY PINS AND PAPERCLIPS AND MIRRORS ARE FALLING OFF THE TROLLEY, AND WE KNOW WHAT THE BOONDOGGLE COST, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE LOCAL ENTITIES, AND THEN I SAY YOU BETTER BELIEVE WE NEED TO GIVE THIS A CHANCE.

BECAUSE THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

BUT I REALLY DO THINK THIS WOULD BE A HUGE DRAW WITH THE BLUES MUSEUM.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT INTERESTS, AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE HUGE, AND WE ARE SIGNALLY LOCATED, TOO.

>> WE WILL SEE IF IT HAS A PRAYER.

LET'S SEE WHAT VIEWERS HAD.. SAY ABOUT OUR MOST RECENT SHOW.

CHARLIE, REGARDLESS THE FLORESCENT POLICE OFFICERS ACCUSED OF STEALING STEWED PHOTOS FROM THE VICTIMS HE PULLED OVER.

I LIKE IN THE COMMENT SAYING THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE NUDE PICTURES IN THEIR PHONES.

SHAME ON YOU.

WE HEARD FROM KAREN OF ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI, WHO WROTE HOW DARE YOU TELL WOMEN OR MEN WHAT TO HAVE ON THEIR PHONE.

IT'S NOT ANYBODY ELSE'S PHONE.

AS LONG AS IT IS LEGAL, IT'S NONE OF YOUR OR ANYONE ELSE'S FRICKING BUSINESS.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUERY WHERE WOMEN WOULD HAVE SUGGESTIVE NUDE PHOTOS ON THE CELL PHONES, AND I THOUGHT THE SAME THING.

I FOUND IT'S A COMMON HAPPENING NOWADAYS.

I'M .. OBVIOUSLY.

NICE..

THINKING.

AND .. MULLINS OF ST. LOUIS WHO WROTE I AM ABSOLUTELY APPALLED AT CHARLIE BRENNAN BLAMING THE VICTIMS FROM HAVING NUDE PHOTOS IN THEIR PHONES.

THANK YOU, MS. MULLINS.

AND WRITE CARE OF NINE PBS, AND USE THE ZIP CODE 63108.

WE LOVE THE E-MAILS, DONNYBROOK AT NINE PBS.ORG AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA USE HASHTAG DONNYBROOK STL, AND CALL THE NINE LINE, AND LISTEN TO US ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCAST SOURCE, AND MAKE SURE AFTER THIS PROGRAM GO TO THE NINE PBS CHANNEL ON YOUTUBE WHERE WE WILL DISCUSS POSSIBLE REPLACEMENTS FOR THE DEPARTING JASON HALL.

SPEA.. IS DEPARTING.

AND THANKS, EVERYBODY, BUT DON'T GO AWAY YET, BECAUSE WE ARE STILL ASKING YOU TO JOIN US FOR DONNYBASH.

>> DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE AMAZING CONVERSATION WITH DONNYBROOK JUST AS MUCH AS I DID.

IT'S NEVER A DULL TIME AT DONNYBASH.

IT'S..

WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER.

BECOME A MEMBER OF THE NINE PBS FAMILY, AND WE WILL OFFER YOU SOME GREAT, GREAT THANK YOU GIFTS, BECAUSE IT'S OUR WAY OF SAYING THAT WE APPRECIATE AND LOVE YOU JUST AS MUCH AS YOU DO US.

SO WE WILL DIVE IN WITH THIS.

AT THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE THE BEAUTIFUL MUG THERE.

DRINK YOUR HOT COCOA.

PERFECT TIME OF YEAR.

$75 FOR THE 70th BIRTHDAY MUG, NINE PBS.

AT THE 95-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE A TICKET TO DONNYBASH LIVE AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL ON MAY 8th, THURSDAY MAY 8th AT 5:30 P.M. AND SHELDON IS ONE OF MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE PLACES HERE IN TOWN.

MEMBERS JUST LIKE YOURSELVES.

YOU DO NOT WANT TO MISS THIS TIME.

.. MONTH SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE TWO TICKETS TO DONNYBASH AND THE MUG.

OFFER TO YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR FAMILY, PERFECT HOLIDAY GIFT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S COMING UP, RIGHT?

GIVE US A CALL AT 1-.. 1-800-568-9099.

TEXT US .. WE WOULD LOVE TO INVITE YOU TO DONNYBASH.

IT.. YOU GET TO MEET THE STAFF HERE.

YOU GET TO MEET DONNYBROOKERS.

IT'S A PHENOMENAL TIME.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THERE'S NOT ONE BUT TWO COCKTAIL PARTIES, TOO.

YO.. STARS, MIX AND MINGLE WITH THE STAFF.

GIVE US A CALL OR TEXT 1-800-568-9099 RIGHT NOW.

BECOME A MEMBER.

FOR RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER TO MY FRIEND YALE HOLLANDER AND THE DONNYBROOKERS.

>> OKAY.

I JU.. RECORD, CHARLIE, THAT I DO NOT FIND YOU DISGUSTING; BUT EVERYBODY IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION.

GU..

OPINIONS?

THAT.. DONNYBASH 2025, AND MAYBE AT THE SPECTACULAR SHELDON AUDITORIUM.

GOING TO BE A GREAT EVENT.

A TICKET IS A GREAT GIFT FOR THE HOLIDAY SEASON, FOR NO SEASON WHATSOEVER, NO REASON AT ALL OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT WILL GIVE YOU THE SATISFACTION FOR MAKING THE DONNYBROOK FAN VERY HAPPY AND ALSO THE SATISFACTION OF KNOWING THAT YOU ARE SUPPORTING A VERY IMPORTANT INSTITUTION IN NINE PBS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

>> NINE PBS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE QUALITY PROGRAMMING; THE BBC, THE NEWSHOUR, AND IT'S ALL COMMERCIAL FREE.

SO NICE.

>> THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE.

WE ARE RAISING MONEY, AND THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL THE THINGS WE DO HERE, ESPECIALLY THE LOCALLY PRODUCED PROGRAMS, NOT JUST HOURS BUT "LIVING ST. LOUIS" AND CLASSROOM 9, AND THERE'S JUST THROUGHOUT THE DAY YOU SEE ST. LOUIS ON ST. LOUIS'S PBS CHANNEL.

I THINK WE ARE ALL PROUD OF THAT AND ALL PROUD TO SHARE THAT WITH THE AUDIENCE.

>> WE ARE ALL PROUD TO BE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.

IT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF OWNERSHIP.

I THINK .. YOU WATCH THE PROGRAMMING AND WHEN YOU'RE ENJOYING THE PROGRAMMING, THEN YOU DO HAVE THAT, WELL AT LEAST I DIDN'T SIT ON MY HANDS.

I PICKED UP THE PHONE.

I CALLED, AND YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE A PART OF IT.

AND YOU ARE.

>> WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER AND GET THE PASSPORT, THERE ARE PROGRAMS YOU CAN WATCH WHEN YOU WANT TO WATCH THEM ON DEMAND.

>> AND SOME SHOWS THAT AREN'T AVAILABLE ONLINE.

THERE'S FRENCH SERIES AND OTHERS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT FIND INTERESTING.

>>.. ENVELOP THAT WAS IN CHANNEL 9.

>> IT WAS LIKE OH, MY GOSH.

I REMEMBER READING MY FIRST DONNYBROOK COFFEE MUG, ANN CEEF, WHEN SHEAFS ON THE SHOW.

>> ONE OF THE GREATS.

>> YES, INDEED.

>> THERE'S A PICTURE OF YOU ALL.

THERE'S A PICTURE OF YOU ALL OUT IN THE HALLWAY.

I SAID I THINK THIS IS.

>> I THINK IT WAS DONNYBROOK FULL CIRCLE.

>> WE OWE A SET OF GRATITUDE TO THOSE FOUNDERS.

RAY, BILL.

>> WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BLUES?

I DON'T KNOW W.. >> CHRIS ZIMMERMAN.

>> I THINK HE'S STILL THERE.

>> FRANK INTERVIEWED HIM, AND HE SAID ALMOST EVERYTHING -- HE WAS PROUD TO SAY ALMOST EVERYTHING HE LEARNED ABOUT ST. LOUIS WHEN HE WAS NEW WAS BECAUSE HE WATCHED DONNYBROOK.

WE HEAR THAT FROM SO MANY PEOPLE WHO MOVED TO ST. LOUIS AND SAY WHAT A GREAT PRIMMER IT IS.

>> WHEN I MOVED BACK.

>> YOU WERE FROM HERE.

>> AND YOU JUST PICKED UP ON THAT.

BUT TO T.. PEOPLE COME TO ME AND SAY YOU KNOW, YOUR PROGRAM IS REALLY GOOD.

WERE.

THANKS, WE DO ..

PRETTY GOOD.

BUT THEY ARE VERY SINCERE.

THEY SAID NO, YOUR SHOW IS GOOD, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, I DIDN'T KNOW THE PLAYERS, AND YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.

THESE PEOPLE WERE YOUNGER, AND I REALLY FEEL GOOD.

IF WE ARE HELPING YOU, YOUNG LADY, YOUNG GUY, IF WE ARE HELPING YOU ALONG WITH YOUR CAREER BY ACTUALLY HAVING SOME KNOWLEDGE, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT.

>> AND YOU WILL FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT WHEN YOU SEE THEM AT DONNYBASH 2025 MAY 8th AT THE SHELDON.

BA.. >> I SIMPLY CANNOT STRESS TO YOU ENOUGH HOW ABSOLUTELY FUN DONNYBASH IS.

YOU WILL NOT REGRE..

I HAVE BEEN READING SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS.

IT'S NOT ONE BAD THI..

PIECE OF PAPER.

IF YOU ARE HEARING FROM ME AND YOU, AND DONNYBROOKERS RIGHT NOW, AND YOU SAY IT'S A REALLY GREAT TIME, JOIN US ON MAY 8, 2025, AND I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NEXT YEAR.

IT..

CORNER.

BECOME A..

WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER, WE CAN GIVE YOU FABULOUS THANK YOU GIFTS.

RECEIVE THE LOVELY NINE PBS BIRTHDAY MUG.

I CANNOT BELIEVE NINE PBS HAS BEEN AROUND 70 YEARS, AND IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE OF MEMBERS AND VIEWERS JUST LIKE YOURSELVES.

YOU WANT TO HELP US GET TO 70 MORE YEARS, BECOME A MEMBER RIGHT NOW.

AT THE 95-DOLLAR LEVEL YOU WILL GET THE TICKET TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE IN PERSON AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL.

IT'S A GREAT SUMMER NIGHT, MAY 8, 2025 AT 5:30.

IT WILL BE A LOVELY NIGHT.

AT THE 15-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE TWO TICKETS AND THAT MUG.

TWO ..

MUG TO SEE DONNYBASH AND CELEBRATE 70 YEARS HERE AT NINE PBS.

I CA.. DONNYBASH IS AMAZING AND HOW MUCH YOUR VALUABLE SUPPORT AND MEMBERSHIP IS TO US.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT TO US.

.. 1-800-568-9099 RIGHT NOW.

DON'T MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU, AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.