Thanks for coming back fo more overtime with House Speaker Matt Hall.

We appreciate it, sir.

So let's let's talk about Donald Trump.

The governor made a request for financial aid for the ice stuff up north.

And he left the utilities out.

Bad call on the president's part.

I support the president.

You know, we went to an Oval Office.

Governor Whitmer and I, we asked for help for Northern Michigan.

He gave us that help, just like he delivered for Selfridge Air National Guard, a new fighter mission.

And also, he' helping us with the Great Lakes.

So I support what he did.

you know, he's been filling the hole in and give the utilities some money.

Well, I don't know if we'll give the utilities money, but we, we, you know, in the house, we did pass a, a bill to, to put more funding into it.

you know when we were doing the budget, we the, the final deal, we put less in of state money that I wanted to.

We only put in enough to do the the match.

and the reason for that was, I think the the governor wanted to see ho this federal thing was resolved.

and, you know, we'll see.

I mean, you never know with President Trump.

He may, you know, he may decide to do more, but, you know, he granted the request.

he gave us, quite a bit of money.

We have a match and if we need to do more for from the state of Michigan, I'm supportive of doing that.

What do you think of the Mitchell poll and what's your prediction on next year's races?

Well, I you know, I, I think it's been consistent with other polls.

We've seen, you know, I know John James is a clear frontrunner.

you know, Eric Nesbitt, my colleagues, Tom Leonar are all running good campaigns.

but but ultimately, you know, if John James continues to be above 45% in the Republican primary in every poll, you know, he's going to win the nomination.

So I think if the candidates aren't bringing down his numbers, you know, so I, you know, I'm I'm very happy.

John James is running.

I, you know, if he's the nominee, I support him fully.

And I look at this and say, okay the benefit of the Republicans right now, the Republicans are a very unified party behind Donald Trump.

When Donald Trump endorses that Republican nominee, you're going to se a coalescing of the Republicans around that candidate.

On the Democrat side they don't have a central figure who can unify the Democrat Party the same way.

I view Mike Duggan as kind of an extension of the Biden type Democrats.

and and then you have Benson, who's, who's kind of the more I mean, it's I'll just say the man Donnie type wing of the Democrat Party, the further left and you have this divide and the Democrat Party, I believe Dorgan will pull more votes from Democrats than Republicans.

And the reason is, when Trump leans in, the Republicans will go with the nominee.

And therefore, I think the Republicans will win this race with less than 50%.

You have a favorite candidate or will you stay out of this?

I'm trying to help all the candidates.

you know, I, I'm, I'm what we're working on, right?

I mean, you notice we've been moving a lot of bills through the House.

Our focus has been oversight.

we're trying to hold the Whitmer administration accountable, blockin a lot of the bad Democrat bills.

I mean, we're in year seven and year eight of Whitmer's administration.

let's just face it.

A lot of their good ideas have already been done.

the stuff that's left over, is just not stuff that that I want to do.

So what we're doing is we're building the future of the Republican governance in Michigan.

We're lining up all that policy and we're getting ready to start running this stuff very quickly, with a new governor.

So that's what I'm focused on.

So then I'm updating each of the candidates, you know, helping them with their policy proposals so that they're ready to no matter who it is, sort of the top.

I'm sorry.

Go ahead.

Speaking of 2026 you know, you're already talking about policy priorities to implement with perhaps a new Republican governor.

But for 26, what are you focused o policy wise in the legislature?

Well, you know, we're going to work we're working on developing a next proposal, a like a modern proposal.

A and I want to put that, up for a vote next yea as the education funding piece.

it's a it's, Well, we want it.

We want to cut property taxes.

so, you know, so what I'm looking at is, you know, potentially two competing proposals, you know, working through the legislature to put that on the ballot and giving the people of Michigan two choices kind of like they did back then on how we're going to reduce property taxes, because I believ we need to cut property taxes.

Affordability is going to be probably the biggest issue in the election.

And we hear so much from peopl about their property tax bill.

So what are we going to do to reduce property taxes bu also fund the local governments.

And we've been working on this.

So there's actually going to be two proposals.

We'll try to get that through the legislature and let the people decide what's really should.

Wait a second, what are the two funding options in those two proposals?

We're developing that as one of them, the income tax.

I don't think you'll see us raise the income tax.

But you know this, we're going to have to I mean, in order to get this done, we're going to put forward a proposal and then, you know we'll have to make a sales tax.

Well, one of them may deal with the sales tax.

Yes.

I mean, you're going to have I mean, sales tax is one of the ways that you could deal with it.

but but again there going to be two proposals.

I'm evaluating a lot of different options.

I have a very strong policy team that's put probably 20 options in front of me, and I'm in the process of whittling it down.

To which two, I think we should put before the voters to reduce, or you have to decide to do what would the second one be?

We'll see.

I don't know, see, I can't make with I don't I, I want to come on your show again and tell you, Tim, I kno there may not be another show.

I, I know I Ricky I'm sorry.

so I've actually had a couple of questions, but the first one is.

So, I mean, proposal both of them, where you were choosing voters, were choosing their tax shifts so that, you know, that that there was still you know, sort of net revenue.

It was just how you were going to, divvy up.

And when you look at what the revenue projections are for the state, are you perceiving this as a tax shift on how the revenue is raised or are you seeing a net tax cut?

I think it'll be a shift on how revenue is raised.

I mean, you look so, you know, we want to reduce people's property taxes.

we also want to start you know, eliminate the personal property tax that a lot of the small businesses pay.

I mean, even the utilities are paying a big purse, you know, so when we're saying, why won't you invest in the grid, why is it that, the grid is one of the least reliable in the country?

Well, they get a huge tax bill every time they make new investments.

So it's how can you you know, finish out that phase out of the personal property tax that started under Snyder.

But mostly how do you give people that relief?

And then capping their growth in the future in a way, because the growth is like 5 a year under Biden's inflation.

So I think we need, you know, we need to reduce the amount it can grow each year because that, you know, the problem is right.

I mean, if you look at seniors, they they're living in some big house.

If they sell their house and, and move into a much smaller house their property taxes are higher.

so we need to do something about that.

The other issue we're working on is health care affordability.

That's been a big one.

there are a lot of ways we can do that.

you know, I'm looking at potentially proposing a new, like, like a public service commission, but for the hospitals to regulate, their price increases.

I think we'll look at price transparency, something Jonathan Lindsey has been working on.

and then whether we need fee schedules, you know, we might need fee schedules because, you know, I've been reading a lot of this stuff, and, and you look at, like what the Blue Cross CEO came out and said about these hospitals and how they're charging more and more and more.

And we see these big Taj Mahal as they're building.

and I'm just saying, like, it's out of control.

I read a story that said, you know, these these small businesses, their health care costs are going up.

It's like 50%, you know, this year, so we have to do something to bring down the cost.

And that's why we're looking at some of those things for next year, because we have to ge you out of here.

But one final.

Are these two ballot proposals revenue neutral?

I think they'll be revenue neutral.

Yeah.

I don't I' we're not going to raise taxes.

what we want to do is we want to fund the, the the important services, right.

Local governments and schools.

But we're looking at a way to do it that is more equitable than, than the property taxe which are getting way too high.

Thank you sir, as always good to see you.

Thank you Tim.