Donnybrook
December 7, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 68 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Bill McClellan, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Bill McClellan, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann. Topics include Lindenwood Univerity, St. Louis County Council proposed budget cuts, Liberty North High School, the St. Louis City Justice Center, Former Alderman Jeffrey Boyd, and more.
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Donnybrook
December 7, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 68 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Bill McClellan, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann. Topics include Lindenwood Univerity, St. Louis County Council proposed budget cuts, Liberty North High School, the St. Louis City Justice Center, Former Alderman Jeffrey Boyd, and more.
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A LADUE RESIDENT AND ALSO HAPPENS TO RUN SOME MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES OR SOMETHING OF THE LIKE, WELL, HE HAS A LAWSUIT WITH THE STA BUSINESSES DOES, AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR THE STATE, ANDREW BAILEY, IS REPRESENTING THE STATE IN SOM LAWSUIT ACTION, AND IT ALSO TURNS OUT THAT ANDREW THE BENEFICIARY OF A FUNDRAISER AT THE HOME OF JOSH FERGUSON IN LADUE.
IN FRONT OF THE STAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS PART OF THE LAWSUIT, A GENERAL IS BENEFITING FROM THIS FUNDRAISER AT THE FERGUSON HOME.
ANY PROBLEMS THERE?
>> WELL, ANDREW BAILEY IS KIND OF SHAMELESS.
THAT'S FIN REPUBLICAN FUNDRAISERS.
BECAUSE I JUST WONDER IF THEY WERE SMOKING POT THERE.
REALLY, IT WAS ABOUT POT.
WERE THEY COKING THEM OUT?
WHEN I GREW UP, THE REPUBLICANS WERE KIND OF ANTI-DRUGS AND ANTI-- JUST SAY NO.
>> FERGUSON PUT STEVE TILLY IN CHARGE OF MARIJUANA, AND JOSH FERGUSON IS RUNNING POT.
I WISH I HAD BEEN THERE.
I WOULD HAVE LIT UP.
>> IT IS LEGAL NOW.
>> I'M NOT OFFEN THAT ANDREW BAILEY SEEMS TO HAVE A SOFT SPOT IN HIS HEART FOR POT SMOKERS.
WHO WAS DISCIPLINED FOR PULLING A FIRE ALARM.
THIS IS CONGRESS.
I TH DYSFUNCTIONAL LEVEL IN LEADERSH I'M NOT OFFENDED REALLY ALMOST -- IT TAKES A LOT TO OFFEND ME.
THIS >> IT SHOULD REALLY, THAT THERE WAS A TIME THAT NOT THAT LONG AGO, CERTAINLY WITHIN THE LENGTH OF TIME WE'VE B DOING THE SHOW THAT THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A HUGE SCANDAL, JUST THE IDEA.
I THAT IT'S JUST WELL KNOWN, BUT THE IDEA THAT A CAMPAIGN FUNDRAISER IS BEING DONE BY A LITIGANT TO THE GUY THAT'S PRESUMABLY -- ANDREW BAILEY'S BEST DEFENSE IS HE DOESN'T REALLY GET INVOLVED IN L IN MISSOURI.
HIS BRIEFS FOR TRUMP WORLD.
THAT'S ALL HE DOES.
AGAIN, IT'S SCANDALOUS, BUT IT'S SO NORMAL NOW.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT >> YOU WERE JUST QUOTING BOB DYLAN SO WELL.
YOU WE BUT I THINK WITH HIM THE EVERY CASE HAS TO BE JUDGED DIFFERENTLY, AND PEOPLE GET INVOLV YOU SAY, YEAH, THAT'S POLITICS, OR YEAH, THAT'S THIS.
THEN SOME PEOPLE, THERE'S JUST A LITTLE ALARM THAT GOES OFF.
HE SETS ONE OFF WHERE ALLEGEDLY -- I THINK ALLEGEDLY, I THINK HE'S CROOKED.
THIS IS BEYOND -- >> POTENTIAL SCANDAL.
MACHINES.
ILLEGAL GAMBLING MACHINES, SLOT MACHINES, BUT HE TAKES FROM STEVE TILLY.
>&g IS IT ANY DIFFER WHEN DAYS AND PAIGE TOO MONEY FROM BOEING THIS SUMMER AT THE SAME TIME THEY WERE SUPPORTING TAX BREAKS FOR BOE >> BIG DIFFERENCE.
&g >> ONE OF TH ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI IN A PROCEEDING.
>> NO, NO, NO.
>> (INAUDIBLE).
WHEN WESLEY BELL GETS ATTORNEYS WHEN HEATS RUNNIN HE'S RUNNING F OR U.S. SENATE, HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT?
>> I BOEI OR SANTA CLAUS.
THEY STOP AT >> THE POINT IS CONF INTEREST.
IF THERE IS INTEREST WITH JOSH FERGUSON, WITH BOEING AND WITH T WHO GIVE TO WESLEY BELL.
>> PHILOSOPHICALLY, MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, YOUR HONOR.
THAT'S ONE THING, THAT'S ANOTHER.
POINT, THE HIGHEST LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN THE STATE SHOULDN'T >> APP >> YOU THAT THE ENTIRE CA SYSTEM IS A FORM OF LEGALIZED BRIBERY, AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT'S STRUCTURED.
GUYS GIVE MONEY, JUST TO BE NICE?
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A ENFORCEMENT OFFICER -- >> (INAUDIBLE).
&g THAT'S -- I THIN VERY INAPPROPRIATE FOR SOMEONE THAT IS ACTI AGAINST.
>> I THINK H TAKING MONEY IN AN ACT >> YOU'RE HARDER ON REPUBLICANS THAN YOU ARE DEMOCRATS.
WHEN DEMOCRATS DO FREAKED OUT.
>> THAT'S TOTALLY FAIR.
>> WHAT?
FUNDRAISER FOR WESLEY BELL, AND HE WAS, TOMORROW I'LL SEE COURT BECAUSE I'M DEFENDING THIS MURDERER, WE WOULD SAY, WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?
>> I I WOULDN'T.
>> NOT HAVE ANY BUSINESS IN FRONT OF THE PROSECUTOR SAME TIME.
IF MR. FERGUSON DID NOT -- WAS NOT INVOLVED ALL OF THAT, I COULD CARELESS, BUT HE HAS A PENDING -- >> CHARLIE, IT MIGHT BE THAT JOSH FERGUSON AND ANDREW GET TOGETHER.
>> SMOKED A >> THEY FIGURED THINGS OUTSIDE AND THEY REACH A SETTLEMEN >> NOW WE'RE OUT OF THIS.
BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.
YOU ABOUT LIN LI IN ST. CHARLES, WELL REGARDED, BUT IT'S CUTTING 10 ATHLETIC PROGRAMS JUST A YEAR OR SO AFTER IT WENT D 1.
THE GYMNASTICS TEAM WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP THIS AND THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GYMNASTICS TEAM AT LINDENWOOD IS BEING CUT.
THAT'S WORD.
WEBSTER UNIVERSITY IS HAVING HUGE FINANCIAL PROBLEMS, AND HARRIS STATE UNIVERSITY IS ON THE VERGE OF LOSING ACCRED WHAT IN ST. LOUIS?
I THINK THEY ARE ALL COLLEGES OF A CERTAIN BILK, A CERTAIN PROFILE, AND I JUST DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS CAME WITH A FAIRLY HEFTY, YOU KNOW, TUITION.
AND ONCE UPON A TIME, THAT WAS OKAY, BUT TODAY WITH THE ADVENT OR THE CONTINUING GROWTH OF ONLINE SCHOOLS, I JUST THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE ADAPT SITUATIONS, AND I THINK MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN -- LIKE IN THE CASE OF LINDENWOOD, THINKING THAT THAT D 1 WOULD SOMEHOW PROPEL THEM ABOVE THE WATERLINE, WHEREVER THEY WERE, AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
LATE.
TH EY'LL SURVIVE THE ACCREDITATION THING COMING IN FEBRUARY.
FILL OUT A FORM ON TIME, AND THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS NOW GONE AND IT JUST STARTED IN JANUARY.
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE GREAT PLANS, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO FILL THE FORMS OUT AND DO MINUTIA STUFF.
>> AND THAT'S THE GOVERNMENT.
THAT'S HAPPENING AT EV OF SOCIETY.
>> RIGHT.
OKAY, THEY CALL THESE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ATHLETES, TO THE GYM AND ANNOUNCE ONE BY ONE, YOUR SUPPORT ISPORT IS CUT, YOUR SPORT IS CUT.
NOW, THEY CAN STAY AND FULFILL THEIR SCHOLARSHIP I, BUT THEY WON'T PLAY THE SPORT.
I DON'T THINK LINDENWOOD THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THIS.
THEY KNEW THEY WERE GOING DIVISION 1 IN BASKETBALL.
THEY KNEW THIS WAS COLLEGE ALLEGEDLY.
COMING.
GOING TO DO?
THEY KNEW.
>> THEY THOUGHT FOOTBALL WAS A REVENUE PRODUCER, A BIG REVENU PRODUCER, NO?
>> I YET.
BECAUSE EVEN THO THAT D 1 STATUS, OF SCHOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN DOING IT A LOT LONGER, AND S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.
>> TO YOUR POINT, CHARLIE, IT FEELS KIND OF HEARTLESS THE WAY THEY DID THIS AND THE FACT THAT THEY'VE GOT THESE KIDS T GOT THE CHAMPIONSHIP.
AND I AGREE IN GENERAL, THERE'S A TENSION BETWEEN THE BIG MONEY PRODUCING SPORTS PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE ACROSS AMERICA WITH THE ON THAT ARE NOT AND THEY TEND TO RESENT ONE ANOTHER OR WHATEVER.
AGAIN, ON ONE LEVEL, YOU KNOW, THIS IDEA -- I THINK ALVIN IS RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THEIR -- THEIR JUST DID COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING.
>> YOU DID THE D 1 THING FIRST AND THEN YOU DID THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN?
I THINK ALVIN IS ON TO SOMETHING.
BIT OUT OF TURN, BUT L NORTH WON THE STATE FOOT CHAMPIONSHIP THIS PAST WEEKEND OVER CBC.
THE GAME WAS CAL AND A HALF OR SO M ALVIN, BECAUSE OF TOO MANY UNSPORTSMAN-LIKE CONDUCT CALLS IN WHEN WAS THE L HEARD OF A CHAMPIONSHIP ENDING EARLY BECAUSE THE KIDS COULDN'T BEHAVE?
>> I'VE NEVE NOW, LIBERTY NORTH W 38 TO 7.
SO I THE GAME WITH ONE TEAM ON THE 1 YARD LINE TO TIE THE GAME.
BUT NONETHELESS, STILL UNEXCUSABLE.
GOODBYE TO PREP AND OTHER FOOTBALL SEASONS THIS YEAR, BECAUSE IT S RAMPAGE.
LIMITED FANS BECAUSE OF FIGHTS IN THE SCHOOL.
LASHAWN HAD A GAME CALLED OFF ALSO BECAUSE OF FIGHTS IN THE SCHOOL, SCARED OF VIOLENCE AT THE THING.
WAS SHOT BY A DISGRUNTLED PARENT BECAUSE HIS SON WASN'T PLAYING ENOUGH.
LET'S JUST -- WE'VE DOWN WHEN IT COMES TO ESPECIALLY YOUTH SPORTS.
AND BO SHOULD FACE SOME PUNISHMENT FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATION.
SLIDE.
THIS, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO CARDINAL RITTER FOR WINNING THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, PLAYING A CLEAN SEASON.
>> DIFFERENT DIVISION.
>&g SHOULD PAY A PRICE.
ON THE OTHER JUST REFLECTING SOCIETY.
I MEAN, EVER CONTROL.
DEBATES.
SELF-CONTROL IS VANISHED.
>> BUT YOU'VE GOT TWO HEAD COPES, ANCOACHES, AND THERE WAS 3 MINUTES 15 SECONDS LEFT.
WE'VE THAT AREN'T GOING TO SEE THE FIELD PROBABLY THE W THAT THEY PUT A VARSITY UN ON.
LET'S HAND THE BALL OFF OR TAKE A KNEE, BUT THESE KIDS OW COULD SAY I PLAYED IN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP.
>> RAY, I WANT TO THE ST. LOUIS COUNTY COUNCIL WHICH IS APPROVING $14 MILLION IN BUDGET CUTS FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
WHOLE BUDGET, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WONDER WHY THEY ARE CUTTING MONEY IF THERE'S SETTLEMENT MONEY, $170 MILLION ON THE SIDELINES.
>> WEL JUST OPPOSJUSTOPPOSE IT IF THE GIVE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T NEED IT A TAX BREAK.
I HAVE MAYBE SOME OF THESE ARE CUTS THAT NEEDED TO BE MA I DON'T KNOW T BUT IT JUST SEEMS LI NO VISION.
SHOW THAT POINTS OUT THAT WE COLLECTIVELY IN THESE CONTEXTS SPEND PROBABLY OUR IDEAS FOR RAMS MONEY PROBABLY ADDED UP TO $20 MILLION, WHICH IS -- I'M NOT DONE WITH.
EVERYBODY SAYING HE SAID THAT.
I THINK THAT'S A POINT FROM OUR VIEWER.
AND I THIN MAKE A CASE IF I RUN THING.
IT OF THE RAMS MONEY.
IT JUST DO THERE'S ANY VISION, AND I WONDER WHY WHEN YOU LOOK AT A COU EXECUTIVE THAT DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP AT THE MEETINGS >> I WAS JUST GOING TO CO UNTY PEOPLE, THEY ARE THERE, AND WOULDN'T YOU THINK THAT BEFORE WE GO LINE ITEM ELIMINATE STUFF, WHY -- CAN WE HAVE 2 MILLION OF THE 170 MILLION TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM GOING OR TO DID THIS OR KEEP THESE PEO EMPLOYED?
THROW ALL THE MONEY IN GENERAL FUND AND JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE CHRISTMASTIME, BUT I THINK YOU COULD DO IT -- >> SOME THINGS NEED IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.
&g IN RESERVES, SO THEY'RE AFRAID THEY'RE GOIN DOWN TOO MUCH.
BUT IT'S BEEN THE AVERAGE DEPARTMENT IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY IS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF LACK OF WORKERS WITH 163 VACANT POSITIONS OPEN IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT A WE 'RE BROKE, OR WE'VE GOT PROBLEMS -- WHY AREN'T YOU LOBBYING RIGHT NOW TO LEGALIZE GAMBLING IN MISSOURI OR ALREADY HAVE A PLAN AND -- >> MAYBE YOU JUST PAID YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX THIS WEEK, BECAUSE IT'S D THE MONTH.
HO EXPIRED TAGS ARE NOT PAYING THEIR SALES TAX AND THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX?
MAYBE WE W IN BUDGET CUTS IF PEOPLE JUST STARTED COLLECTING.
>> TECHNICALLY, I DI THINK AB HAVE AN EXPIRED TAG, THA PROBABLY MEANS YOU HAVEN'T PAID YOUR TAXES.
>> SOMETIMES BUDGETS CUTS ARE LEGIT.
THEIR USEFULNESS OR BECAUSE OF STAFFING ISSUES.
JUST BECAUSE THE DOESN'T MEAN THEY DID SOMETHING WRONG, BUT IT'S SURE S TALK ABOUT THIS ENVIRONMENT WE'RE IN.
PROPERTY TAXES FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE A HALF BILLION DOLL HOMES.
ANOTHER DETAINEE DEATH.
I THINK YEARS AT THE CITY'S JUSTICE CENTER IN DO IT'S SAID THAT THIS WAS AN ATTEMPTED SUICIDE THAT RESULTED IN DEATH, KNOW.
OVERSIGHT BOARD HAS NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO TALK TO INMATES CORRECTIONS OFFICERS OR VI HOSPITAL OR THE KITCHE YOU JUST WONDER, OKAY, WHO IS OVERSEEING THE JAIL, AND SHOULDN'T WE THERE ARE 11 DEATHS IN TWO YEARS?
ONE, AND THE SECOND ANSWER IS YES, WE SHOULD BE ALARMED.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT A CONSTITUENCY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GREAT ADVOCATE AT THIS POI AND IT'S PARTICULARLY SOME THAT -- I THINK HE WAS ACCUSED OF MURDER, THIS PERSON.
IT'S JUST NOBODY HOME TO S UP FOR THEM.
AND IT HONESTLY.
IT'S LIKE THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AFTER A MASS KILLING.
AT SOME POIN IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY.
THERE IS A JAIL DIRECTOR ON WHOSE WATCH THIS KEEPS HAPPENING.
AND THERE IS -- WE HAVE A PROCESS OF OVERSIGHT THAT FOR REASONS NOBODY CAN SEEM TO FIGURE OUT, THIS ADMINISTRATION, WITH THE BLESSING OF THE BOA OF ALDERMEN, CONTINUES TO RESIST, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
WITH YOU, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, I DON'T THINK THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS I THINK IF W EFFICIENTLY RUN JAIL, IT'S JUST LIKE PRISON, IT HAPPENS.
AND I JUST CAN'T PIN THIS ON OVERSIGHT.
JAIL EVERY DAY TWICE A DAY, AND I THINK THIS PERSON WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE HERE.
>> WELL, THAT'S TRUE, ALVI STILL, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY WATCHING.
I MEAN, WE HAVE SCANDAL AFTER SCANDAL AT THE JAIL.
>> >> I THINK PEOPLE KI THEMSELVES AT THE JAIL.
>> BUT THA HEARING, ALVIN.
WH OF GO IN THERE AND D THAT THE DEATH DID RESULT FROM HOMICIDE.
MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM, THEY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, T HAVE SOME KIND OF RESOURCES.
>> WE ARE GETTING WO ATTORNEYS REPR INDIVIDUALS THERE THAT THE KIDS SAY OSAY -- A LOT OF T PEOPLE.
BECAUSE THEY WOULD GET BEATEN UP.
WE KNOW SOME OFFICERS WERE GET BEAT UP.
WE KNOW THERE WAS A RIOT LAST TWO YEARS.
>> THAT THESE DEATHS ARE AT FAULT OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S ACTUALLY TH HAVING OVERSIGHT, YOU WOULD THINK, IF YO ADMINISTRATION WITH ALL OF THIS HAPPENING THAT THE ONE THING YOU WOULD WANT IS TO LOOK, WE HAVE OVERSIGHT, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST, THESE HAPPEN.
IRRATIONAL RESISTANCE TO HAVING REASONABLE OVERSIGHT WITH THIS NONSENSE, OH, WE'VE GOT TO TRAIN THESE PEOPLE.
YO TO DO OVERSIGHT.
THE PO >> THERE IS A DEAD PERSON.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S THEIR FAULT THAT THIS GUY IS DEAD.
>> NO, I'M NOT.
I'M SAYING JUST I'M SAYING THE OVERSIGHT WOULD AT LEAST GIVE THE APPEARANCE THAT THEY WE TRANSPARENCY.
PART OF THE REVIEW BOARD SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TOUR THE JAIL, JUST LIKE BILL HAS TOURED JAILS, I HAVE TOURED JAILS.
I WOULD IMAGINE YO TOO.
GO THROUGH TRAINING.
>> YOU DON'T NEED MY POINT IS IT'S NOT THE FAULT, BUT IT'S THE CITY'S FAULT THEY WON'T ALLOW OVERSIGHT.
>> SPEAKING OF JAILS, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF J HE WENT TO JAIL FOR BRIBER I THINK THERE WERE ALSO FRAUD CHARGES, BUT BRIBERY IS THE BIG ONE, AND HE WENT ABOUT AGO ON A THREE-YEAR SENT BUT NOW WE'RE FINDING OUT HE MIGHT GET OUT AS SOON AS FEBRUARY BECAUSE SOME OF THE SENTENCING GUIDELINES HAVE CHANGED SINCE HE ENTERED.
SO A GUY WENT IN BUT MIGHT COME OUT IN 13 MONTHS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> IT'S WHITE COLLAR CRIME.
I KIND OF WANT TO SAY HE SHOULD STAY IN JAIL, BUT HE SHOULD STAY IN JAIL.
WHAT AM I?
LI NO.
JE THREE YEARS, AT LEAST HALF.
>> I THINK JEFFREY BOYD ISN'T BEING TREATED ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
THE FE DRIVEN BY GUIDELINES AND ALSO IF THERE IS A SENTENCING COMMISSI THAT REVIEWS THESE, AND IF HE'S NOT RECEIVING DIFFERENT TREATMENT THAN OTHER CRIMI WHETHER THEY NOT, I THINK HE'S -- HE'S ASKED FOR HIS -- YOU CAN'T EXACTLY BLAME HIM FOR ASKING TO GET OUT AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE, AND I THINK IT'S ALL DRIVEN PRETTY MUCH BY BOILERPLATE GUIDELINES AND DIRECTIVES.
IF HE'S NOT GETTING TREATED SPECIALLY.
>> -- FAVOR.
YOU NEED TO DO YOUR TIME NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT THE CIRCUMSTA BECAUSE WHATEVER THE GUIDE ARE, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERYBODY WHO MAKES THIS REQUEST GETS IT.
SO MAYBE HE'S A GOOD C TO TURN DOWN.
>> I PROGRAM NOW WHERE PEOPLE DO GET TIME CUT OFF OF THEIR -- THEY DIDN'T USED TO.
IT USED TO THREE YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO DO PRETTY MUCH THREE YEARS.
BUT I THINK THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR THINKING ON IF YOU GET THREE Y PROBABLY ARE GOING TO DO TWO.
>> AND I THINK JEFFREY BOYD -- I MEAN, HE'S NOT A THREAT TO ANYBODY.
>> IT'S NOT IT'S THE PUN THINK?
REPRESENTING HIS CONSTITUENTS.
>> I UND >> AND I MONEY.
ANYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THESE STORIES, WHE IT'S WHY DOWN OR THE ONE AT THE PETRO MART, PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE IN JAIL AREN'T IN JAIL, AND A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S NO ROOM FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE IN JAIL BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE JEFFREY BOYD.
THERE MA THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW THE SYSTEM THAT WELL, BE CROWDING ISSUES IN THE FEDERAL PRISONS, AND ONE OF THE WAYS YOU ADDRESS PRISON OVERCROWDING IS BY HAVING THE EARLY RELEASE OF NONVIOLENT PEOPLE.
>> AND BUDGETARY >> NOT JUST WHITE >> THE MORE PEOPLE YOU CA OUT, THE LESS EXPENSIVE.
>> IF IT'S OVERCROWDING, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN REPORTED.
I THOUGH WHITE COLLAR CRIMINALS SHOULD DO TIME JUST LIKE -- >> HE IS >> A THREE-YEA INTO 13 MONTHS?
> GOTTEN TO DO WITH WHITE COLL PRISONERS IN THE FEDERAL SYSTEM ARE ENTITLED, WHET SHOULD BE OR NOT, UNDER TH EXISTING GUIDELINES -- >> WAIT.
CAPITOL?
>> NO.
I COVERED THOSE.
MOST O ANY TIME.
>> ONES ARE IN THERE FOR 3 TO 5 YEARS AND WON'T GET OUT IN 13 MONTHS.
>> BEFORE WE BREAK, BILL MCCLELLAN, GABE GORE, WHO HAS BEEN ON THE JOB -- WITHIN MINUTE TO GO.
GABE GOR ATTORNEY FOR ST. LOUIS, GAVE HIMSELF A PRETTY GOOD REPORT CARD AFTER SIX MONTHS.
I THINK HE'S DON WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> OH, S AND HE'S RUNNING AGAIN, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY RUNNING AGAINST HIM, A SERIOUS CANDIDATE.
SO FAR, HE'S DONE SO M WELL.
BANTIED ABOUT TO BE U.S. ATTORNEY WHEN JOE BIDEN WON.
>> I JUST FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, HE HAD SUCH A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW.
(L >> YOU SAID ONE THING B THAT WAS GOING TO ASSEMBLE A DREAM TEAM OF LAWYERS FROM THE COUNTY AND PRIVATE ENTERP POO-POOED THAT, WHO COULD DO THAT?
HATS OFF TO YOU ALVIN REID.
LET'S FIND OUT WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY ABOUT L PROGRAM, SHALL WE?
>> THE DOW REPORT WAS YEAR OVER YEAR, AND THERE HASN'T BEEN A CH 2022 TO 2023.
IT MAY EVEN BE UP DEPENDING ON HOW YOU MEASURE IT.
THIS IS GOOD NEWS.
ACCEPT THE POSITIVE AND MAYBE COMPLIMENT THE POLICE AND PATROLS.
THE CITY DID NOT COLLECT TAXES FROM POT SALES YET, BUT IT CAN SURELY GET OUR EARNED INCOME TAXES FROM THOSE OF US THAT ACTUALLY WORK.
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