COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON: A PUSH FOR RANKED-CHOICE VOTING BY DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS .TONIGHT: A GLOBAL PANEL HIGHLIGHTS UNIQUE VOICES DISCOVERING NEW METHODS FOR CONSERVATION.

.AND, WE'LL LEARN ABOUT AN INITIATIVE TO CREATE COMMUNITY GARDENS IN PHOENIX SCHOOLS.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE, NEXT, ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M STEVE GOLDSTEIN IN FOR TED SIMONS.

DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS AND ACTIVISTS ARE QUIETLY LOBBYING TO BRING RANKED-CHOICE VOTING TO THE 20-28 PRIMARIES.

TONIGHT, WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT THIS MOVE COULD MEAN FOR FUTURE ELECTIONS AND ARIZONA VOTERS.JOINING US NOW IS MATT GRODSKY, VICE PRESIDENT AND PARTNER AT MATTERS OF STATE STRATEGIES.

AND, CHUCK COUGHLIN, PRESIDENT AND C-E-O OF HIGHGROUND INC.

>> MATT, WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO DO IT?

>> SOME DEMOCRATS WOULD LIKE TO DO IT BECAUSE IT GIVES PEOPLE MORE OPTIONS.

THERE ARE PROS AND CONS FOR BOTH.

IT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA.

THERE ARE RAMIFICATION FOR IT IN STATES LIKE ARIZONA WHERE RANK CHOICE IS PROHIBITED.

THERE IS A LOT OF COST SHOULD THIS BE A THING THEY DECIDE TO DO.

>> THE NEW YORK CITY MAYORAL ARAISIN FLEWANCED THIS A BIT.

A MAYORS RACE IS DIFFERENT.

>> PRIMARIES ARE DIFFERENT THAN GENERAL ELECTIONS TOO.

THIS IS A DISCUSSION BY THE PARTY FOR THEIR PRIMARY AND PERHAPS ELECTING OFFICERS TO THEIR OWN SLATE OF DEMOCRATIC PARTY CANDIDATES.

YES, AS MATT SUGGESTED IT'S VERY DIFFERENT WAY TO ELECT PEOPLE.

THERE IS MASSIVE FRAUD.

THIS IS GETTING INTO THE COMPUTERS.

THIS IS A FAIRWAY TO ALLOW A CANDIDATE TO SOLICIT THE SUPPORT FROM A BROADER CROSS SECTION OF THE ELECTATE THAN THE POST MODEL OF 50% PLUS ONE.

>> IN THE TIME WE HAVE, I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL-TAKEN IN THE SENSE THAT EVERY STATE, WHEN IT COMES TO THIS.

THEY HAVE DIFFERENT RULES.

MANY STATES DO HAVE DIFFERENT RULES.

COULDN'T THIS COMPLICATE A SYSTEM?

>> YES, THE DNC COULD DECIDE WE ARE DOING THIS BUT THE STATE PARTIES HAVE TO DECIDE AMONG THEMSELVES.

WE HAVE A STATE COMMITTEE AND THEY HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT GET A MAJORITY TO APPROVE IT.

THEN THEY ARE LIKE GREAT, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT IT'S NOT FEASIBLE IN PRACTICE.

>> CHUCK, YOU WERE INVOLVED IN AN EFFORT THAT MIGHT HAVE HAD RANK CHOICE VOTES.

>> THERE WAS A CONCERN AS PEOPLE WANT TO THINK IT IS.

WE HAVE TO TEACH THE ELECTATE SOMETHING.

YOU THINK, MAYBE THERE IS MODIFICATIONS BUT WE HAVE TO JUMP INTO THAT RIGHT NOW.

>> TOP TWO IS AN EASIER CONCEPT.

THAT'S THE TOP TWO VOTEGETTERS RUNNING OFF AGAINST EACH OTHER IN A THEN SUBSEQUENT ELECTION OR GENERAL ELECTION.

ALASKA DOES A RANK CHOICE VOTING MODEL TO ELECT STATE LEADERS.

THEY DO THIS RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHY LISA IS THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA AND MARY IS THE CONGRESSMAN.

TWO DIFFERENT PARTIES IT'S WORKED WELL.

ALASKA HAS 500,000 VOTERS.

IT'S SMALLER THAN ARIZONA'S 5 MILLION PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.

>> GOING BACK INTO IN.

THE CONCEPT INTO THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY SITUATION.

IT'S, WITH THE DELEGATES AND TRYING TO COLLECT THEM.

WHY WOULD YOU WANT A RANK CHOICE SYSTEM IN A PRIMARY?

>> I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT.

BRING MORE YOUNG PEOPLE IN AND LESS NEGATIVITY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT'S A NIGHTMARE.

YOU HAVE DIFFERENT DELEGATES AND RULES.

WHERE I COMBAT IT AS A CONCERNED DEMOCRAT AT CONSULT TAN.

WE HAVE A LARGE PLANE TO LAND.

WE CAN HAVE THE FUN CONVERSATIONS.

>> AS A FORMER REPUBLICAN NOW.

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS OFF THE STAGE.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT.

>> I THINK, AS MATT SUGGESTED IT'S TOO MUCH TO BITE OFF AND CHEW INTO RIGHT NOW.

IT'S A GOOD LONG-TERM CONVERSATION.

I BELIEVE THE SYSTEM PROMOTES A FAIR INCLUSION OF VOTERS AND OTHER CANDIDATES.

IT REPRESENTS A MAJORITY OF THE ELECT ATE.

I THINK IT'S A VERY VALID WAY TO CHOSE PEOPLE.

MAN, HE'S RIGHT.

IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.

>> WE'LL LOOK AHEAD TO 2028.

>> LET'S THROW OUT WHITMER, NEWSOM, RUNNING FOR 2028.

ANY ADVANTAGE OF THEM COMING FROM A PARTICULAR STATE WITH RANK CHOICE VOTING.

>> ADD AN EXTRA DOZEN TO THE LIST.

SURE THERE ARE SOME ADVANTAGES WHEN IT COME TO ARIZONA.

WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL APPRECIATE FROM A CANDIDATE COMING FROM THAT AREA.

THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT ADVANTAGES.

>> IT WOULD CREATE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INTEREST.

IT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY, INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE IMMEDIATE EXPERIENCE WAS WITH THAT AND HOW, IF THEY COULD BE DONE, HOW IT COULD BENEFIT A CANDIDATE.

>> HOW MUCH TIME DOES A CONSULTANT HAVE TO SPEND TIME AND MONEY IN EXPLAINING THIS.

EVEN AN ELECT ATE IN THE CITY COUNCIL RACE.

>> YES.

>> WE ARE A TOP TWO SYSTEM.

INSTEAD OF RANK CHOICE, IF IT'S RANK CHOSE TALKING FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE ISEN THAT A LOT OF WASTE AND TIME.

>> YOU HAVE TO RUN YOUR OWN CAMPAIGN.

THAT WILL DRIVE YOUR PORTION OF THE ELECT ATE.

WE WOULD ALL BE DOING THAT ALL OF THE TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS WHERE.

>> THE ONLY THING I ADD, INDIVIDUAL CAMPAIGNS, YES, YOU MUST EXPLAIN THIS TO THE BEADER ELECTATE.

THERE IS A BROADER CHALLENGE.

YOU HAVE THE COUNTIES THEMSELVES THEY ARE NONPARTISAN.

THEY HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS, A LOT OF VARIABLES.

>> I RECOGNIZE ONE AND TWO.

>> I'M SHORTER.

>> OH, THANK YOU.

>> A NEW GENERATION OF CONSERVATION LEADERS IS MEETING TO DISCUSS AND EXPLORE SYSTEM-BASED VISIONS.

THIS WILL HELP RESHAPE THE WAY WE UNDERSTAND AND PROTECT EARTH'S INTERCONNECTED SYSTEMS.HERE TO DISCUSS HOW TO DISCUSS HOW THIS COULD CHANGE THE FUTURE OF CONSERVATION IS PETER SCHLOSSER, VICE PRESIDENT AND VICE PROVOST OF A-S-U'S GLOBAL FUTURES LABORATORY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT VISION AND WHAT THAT VISION COULD BE IF IT EVOLVES.

>> A BIT OF CONTEXT, WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT CONVERSATION.

WE LOOK AT DIVERSITY IT'S HAPPENING AT AN AMAZING RATE.

WE LOST ABOUT 73% BETWEEN 1970 IN 2020.

WE ASK WHAT WE CAN DO TO STOP THAT AND THE ADVERSE EFFECT OF THAT LOSS.

IN THE PAST, WE LOOKED AT THAT IN A STATIC WAY, IT'D CAN FOLLOW THE PACE OF CHANGE.

THE SERVICES THAT NATURE DELIVERS TO US AND ECONOMY.

>> WE THINK ABOUT HOW WE EXPLORE CONCEPTS.

PUTTING THE DATA IN A CONCEPT.

HOW IS THAT GOING FORWARD.

>> IF WE LOOK AT HOW TO PREPARE PEOPLE FOR THAT, YOU COULD TAKE A COMPARISON WHERE YOU SAY IF SOMEONE IS PREPARED THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO.

THEY ARE PREPARED IN PRACTICE THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WORK IN CONSERVATION.

WE HAVE TO HAVE IMMERSIVE LEARNING AND WE HAVE TO GET ALL OF THE LEARNERS WHICH IS STUDENTS, UNIVERSITY STUDENTS.

ALSO LIFELONG LEARNERS.

WE HAVE TO GET THAT ON THE GROUND SO THEY ARE READY TO KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY GO INTO THE FIELD.

>> I ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT MULTIGENERATIONAL.

SOME THINK THE YOUNGER FOLKS ARE MORE INFORMATIONAL.

HOW DIFFERENT DOES THE MESSAGE HAVE TO BE IN SOMEONE IS 15 OR 80.

>> THE MESSAGE IS THE SAME.

WE HAVE TO, THERE IS ONE DIFFERENCE, ACTUALLY.

THERE IS ONE DIFFERENCE.

THE YOUNGER GENERATION, THEY WILL LIVE TO THE END OF THE CENTURY.

THEY WILL LIVE-IN A WORLD THAT HAS MORE OF THE EFFECTS OF THE CHANGE.

THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, HOW TO REACT WITH SPEED, SCALE, FOR IMPACT.

IT NEEDS A CONTRACT.

WE CAN'T SAY WE ARE JUST BANKING TO SOLVE IT.

WE HAVE TO DISTRIBUTE POWER FROM OUR GENERATION TO THE COMING GENERATION.

>> A BIG QUESTION I'M ASKING YOU TO BE FAIRLY BRIEF ON IT.

IT HAS TO INVOLVE A LOT OF IT.

HOW DOES THE COMPATIBILITY WORK.

>> WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE ECONOMY IMPACT AND IMPACT ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND FOOD SECURITY.

YOU CAN SEE, HOW THIS IS SUPER LINKED AND WE HAVE TO DEFEAT FROM THE APPROACH OF ONE DISCIPLINE AND THAT BRINGS IN ALL OF THE OTHER DISCIPLINES IF WE PUT THEM TOGETHER WE HAVE THE TRADITIONAL DISCIPLINES.

>> A PLACE WHERE THERE IS CLIMATE CHANGE ARE ON MANY SPECIES AS WELL.

IT'S GETTING DRIER.

THAT HAS IMPACT ON NATIVE PLANTS THAT CAN SURVIVE.

IT'S A GOAL WE ARE TIPPING OVER BECAUSE OF THE HEAT.

SO, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PROTECT THE FUNCTIONS OF THE ECOSYSTEM WITH THE REGION.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU TIME.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GREEN DESERT IS A LOCAL NON-PROFIT FOCUSED ON MAKING SUSTAINABILITY SIMPLE AND ACCESSIBLE.

RECENTLY, THEY TOOK THEIR INITIATIVE INTO ONE SCHOOL TO TEACH KIDS HOW TO BUILD AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR VERY OWN GARDEN.

WE.

WELCOME QUITA JACKSON, PRESIDENT AND CO-FOUNDER OF GREEN DESERT.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING MAINE.

>> TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PASSION.

>> THE MISSION TO MAKE SUSTAINABILITY EASY AND NOT FEEL LIKE A CHORE.

WE GOT INTO THE SCHOOLS SIX YEARS AGO.

WE STARTED OVER AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

IT'S AN UNDERLINE STYLE OUT THERE.

THE SCHOOLS, SADLY, THERE ARE KIDS WITH ELEMENTS.

HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THINGS THAT LIFESTYLE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

THAT GOT US INTO THE SCHOOLS WE DID A CONTEST RECENTLY.

THE SCHOOL WON FAIRFAX HIGH SCHOOL.

IT WAS A NO-BRAINER BECAUSE THE ESS CLASS CAME AND IT WAS AUTHENTIC AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THEY COULD USE.

IT'S TEACHING THEM REAL LIFE SKILLS.

IT'S INDEPENDENCE AND COOKING AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S GARDENING.

>> I'D LIKE TO GET INTO THE GENERATIONAL ASPECT.

PEOPLE SAY, YEAH, I BELIEVE IN THAT.

THERE IS INCONVENIENT FOR ME.

HOW HAVE YOU WORKED TO CHANGE THAT PERCEPTION.

PART TWO, IS IT EASIER TO DEAL WITH YOUNGER PEOPLE.

IT'S NOT AS GROUNDED IN.

>> WE START WITH THE PART TWO.

IT'S SO MUCH MORE FUN.

WE MAKE THINGS DIFFICULT.

IT'S CONVINCING.

I'M ABOUT I WANT TO HAVE FUN.

WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

WITH THE KIDS, IT'S FUN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LEARN AND THEY ARE REALLY EXCITED.

THEY WANT TO TOUCH WORMS AND THINGS.

SOMETHING I WASN'T INTERESTED IN.

THEY WANT TO TASTE THE FOOD AND LEARNING ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.

THEY ARE OUT THERE PLAYING WITH DIRT AGAIN.

THESE KIDS HAVE GARDENS AT HOME.

>> THEY TAKE IT FROM THE GARDEN HOME.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.

THE KIDS WERE HEAVILY INVOLVED.

WERE WE ABLE TO GET A FEELING THAT THE KIDS WERE THEY EAGER RIGHT AWAY OR DID THEY NEED GENITAL PRODDING.

I'M OBJECT ACCESSED WITH THE GENERATIONAL PART.

IF THEY WEREN'T EXPOSED TO GARDENING.

I DON'T THINK I CAN UNDERSTAND THIS.

THIS IS SOMETHING NEW I COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE THAT WAY TOOK THE THEM AROUND THE CLASSROOM AND THAT'S THE MOTION EXCITING THING FOR THEM.

THEY ACTUALLY GET TO HELP.

THEY ARE COOKING AND GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.

THEY GOOD ET TO TAKE FOOD HOME AND TOOK IT HOME AND TOOK PICTURES AND SHOW US THEY ARE USING IT AT HOME.

IT'S SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY CAN DO.

>> DON'T RUSH IN THE ANSWER, I'D LIKE TO KNOW REDUCING YOUR CARBON FOOTPRINT.

IT'S A PASSION OF YOURS FOR A LONG TIME.

WHAT OBVIOUS WAYS HAS IT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

>> I WOULD SAY I STARTED WITH GARDENING.

I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE HAPPY AND HAVE FUN.

THE MORE I DID IT AND LEARNED I LEARNED WE SHOULD CONSERVE WATER.

IT TOOK IT ANOTHER LEVEL FOR ME.

MY GARDEN IS MY PEACE.

I'M ALL ABOUT THAT THE CHICKENS AND NATURE.

I'M SO EXCITED AND PASSIONATE.

IN FAIRFAX, THEY HAVE A MUIAL AND NAMED THEIR GARDEN BETTY'S ROOT.

WE WILL HAVE IT OPEN THIS COMING MONDAY.

THEY ARE INVOLVED IN THE WHOLE PROCESS.

THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

I'M TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO AND GIVING YOU A SAY IN IT.

IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.

>> THEY EXPAND THE PROGRAM.

>> YES, IF I HAD IT MY WAY WE'D HAVE ONE IN EVERY SCHOOL.

WE ARE A NONPROFIT AND DEALING WITH DONATIONS.

ONE COMPANY SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

DONATIONS AND VOLUNTEERS MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

EVERY SCHOOL, THEY CAN CONTACT US AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WAN TO DO.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION OF ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M STEVE GOLDSTEIN IN FOR TED SIMONS.

THANKS FOR