>> Ted: NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, WE LOOK AT THELATE ELECTION NUMBERS AND WHAT THOSE NUMBERS SAY ABOUT ARIZONA'S POLITICAL LANDSCAPE AND LATER IN THE HOUR ON CRONKITE NEWS, HUNDREDS OF NEW AFFORDABLE APARTMENT HOMES WILL BE UP FOR RENT.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

THE U.S. SUPREME COURT REJECTED AN ATTEMPT BY CHAIR KELLI WARD TO KEEP HER PHONE AND TEXT RECORDS AWAY FROM THE HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE TACK ON THE U.S. CAPITOL.

WARD HAD ARGUED THAT THE COMMITTEE SUBPOENA WAS TOO INTRUSIVE AND VIOLATED HER FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND THE JUSTICES HAD PUT A FREEZE ON THAT TO CONSIDER WARD'S ARGUMENT AND THE COURT DECLINED WARD'S REQUEST AND IT WAS.

TONIGHT CLEARS THE WAY FOR WARD'S ROLE UP TO THE RIOT ALONE WITH ACTIONS AS A FAKE ELECTOR FOR TRUMP.

>> PROP 308 WHO ATTENDED ARIZONA'S HIGH SCHOOLS AND SECRETARY OF STATE, ADRIAN FONTES, DELIVERED A VICTORY SPEECH AS THEY DECLARELE DECLARED HIM THE WINNER AND FINCHEM SAID SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG IN ARIZONA.

AND VICTOR OVER JULIE GUNNEGLE.

MITCHELL IS AMONG THE TOP REPUBLICAN VOTE GETTERS IN MARICOPA COUNTY.

AND NATIONAL HEADLINES, PRESIDENT BIDEN MET WITH XI JINPING AND THE FIRST MEETING BETWEEN THE TWO LEADERS AND REPORTEDLY TOUCHED ON EVERYTHING FROM CLIMATE CHANGE TO INCREASING CONCERNS THAT CHINA IS PREPARING TO INVADE TAIWAN.

>> I BELIEVE THERE NEEDN'T BE A NEW COLD WAR.

I'VE MET MANY TIMES WITH XI JINPING AND WE WERE CANDID AND CLEAR ACROSS THE BOARD AND I DO NOT THINK THERE'S ANY IMMINENT ATTEMPT ON THE PART OF CHINA TO INVADE TAIWAN AND I MADE IT CLEAR THAT OUR POLICY IN TAIWAN HAS NOT CHANGED AT ALL.

>> BOTH LEADERS EXPRESS CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM AFTER THE MEETING TO IMPROVE WHAT HAS BEEN A DETERIORATING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES.

>>> IT'S ALMOST A WEEK NOW SINCE ELECTION DAY AND A NUMBER OF MAJOR RACES ARE STILL TOO CLOSE TO CALL.

FOR THE LATEST ON THE VOTE COUNT AND WHAT THE RESULTS THUS FAR MEAN, WE WELCOME PAUL BENNETT AND WE'RE TAPING AT 4:15 AND LATER TONIGHT, AFTER 6:00, IS THERE SUPPOSED TO BE A DUMP OF VOTES, CORRECT?

>> 150,000 TOTAL VOTES AND MARICOPA COUNTY, THIS IS THEIR FINAL DROP OF THE DAY OF DROP-OFF BALLOTS, IN THE 70,000 TO 80,000 RANGE AND THE BALLOTS THAT THEY'RE CURING CHECKING SIGNATURES ON.

>> Ted: I THINK ABC 15 VOTING THE EARLY BALLOTS HAVE BEEN COUNTED AND DROPPED OFF AT THE VOTING CENTERS AND COULD THIS DECIDE IT TONIGHT?

>> IN ADDITION TO PIMA, WHICH IS EXPECTED ANY MOMENT NOW AND MARICOPA, IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY, A LOT OF RACES WILL COLUMN COME INTO CLARITY.

>> Ted: DO YOU THINK REPUBLICAN COUNTY CANDIDATES CAN STILL MAKE UP GROUND?

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GOVERNOR'S RACE AND AT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S RACE?

>> THEY HAVE A SHOT AND KARI LAKE NEEDS 57% AND HAHAMDE NEEDS 47% AND HORN NEEDS 54%.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING HOW THE NUMBERS PLAY OUT.

LAKE IN THE LAST TWO BALLOT DROPS, THE FIRST ONE, SHE NEEDED 54 AND GOT 52 AND NEEDED 56 AND GOT 54 AND FALLS BEHIND.

>> Ted: SHE'S GETTING MORE.

>> SHE'S CATCHING UP AND NOT MUCH RUNWAY.

>> Ted: FOR THE OTHER RACES AND LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ATTORNEY GENERAL, ESPECIALLY AND SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION.

IS THIS TO CALL FOR A RECOUNT?

>> I THINK HIGHLY LIKELY AND THEY CHANGED THE RECOUNT LAW AND NOW ABOUT A HALF A PERCENT AND THAT'S THE THRESHOLD AND IN SOME OF THE TIGHT RACES, IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY WE WILL SEE A RECOUNT.

>> Ted: THE VOTE TOTALS, WHAT ARE THEY TELLING YOU ABOUT THESE CANDIDATES, ABOUT THIS RACE?

>> YOU TALKED ABOUT RACHEL MITCHELL, SHE FAR OUTDID SOME OF THESE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES, ESPECIALLY ON THESE LAST FEW DROPS AND MARICOPA COIN IS COUNTY AND SPEAKS TO THE STATEWIDE COUNTIES THEY HAD IN THE REPUBLICAN BASE.

OUR POLLS SHOWED 10% CROSS-OVER AND HIRE THAN THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY OF REPUBLICANS CHOOSING NOT TO VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE AND VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS.

>> Ted: THE INDEPENDENTS LOOKED LIKE THEY DID A DEEP SWEEP.

>> THE INDEPENDENTS THAT DROPPED OFF OR VOTED EARLY DID BREAK AND THE INDEPENDENTS MOO VOTED WHO VOTED PHYSICALLY DID VOTE AND LEANED MORE TOWARD REPUBLICANS AND THE REST APPEARED TO BREAK DEMOCRATICALLY.

>> Ted: KIMBERLY YE HAS THE MOST VOTES, IT LOOKS LIKE OUT THERE, AND WHAT'S GOING ON?

IS THAT BECAUSE SHE RAN A QUIET CAMPAIGN?

>> SHE'S THE HIGHEST CONTESTED REPUBLICAN AND IT SPEAKS TO THE DEFAULT NATURE AND ARIZONA STILL TRENDS RED AND COMPETITIVE SPOTS THAT MAKE IT MORE PURPLE AND SHE RAN -- DID NOT SPEND TIME FOCUSED ON SOME ELECTORAL ISSUES THAT SEEMED TO DRAG DOWN THE OTHER REPUBLICANS.

>> Ted: IS THIS NORMAL TO BE WAITING THIS LONG FOR VOTE COUNTS?

I'M SEEING ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA AND WHAT'S WRONG WITH ARIZONA?

MARK FINCHEM SOMETHING WRONG IN ARIZONA.

THIS ISN'T NEW?

>> WE HAVE 650,000 BALLOTS LEFT TO COUNT AFTER ELECTION DAY AND IN 2020, IT WAS 659 AND IN 2018, IT WAS 600,000 AND IN 2016, 629,000.

IT'S ABOUT 600,000.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT SEVEN DAYS SO FAR.

THE DIFFERENCE IS WE ALLOW PEOPLE WHO DROP TO HAVE THEM COUNTS.

PLACES LIKE FLORIDA DON'T ALLOW THAT.

THE PROCESS NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE, REVIEW THE BALLOTS AND MAKE SURE EVERY VOTE IS COUNTED.

IT ENSURES ACCURACY.

>> Ted: IF YOU HAVE AN EARLY PLOT, VOTE EARLY AND OPPOSED TO THE ILLUSIVE THIRD SPOT.

>> IS IT THE NEW NORMAL FROM NOW ON, WHEN WE GET ELECTION RESULTS, THE EARLY BALLOTS WILL MOSTLY LEAN DEMOCRAT AND WE SEE DEMOCRATIC LEADS AND MOVING BACK TOWARD REPUBLICAN.

IS THAT THE NEW NORMAL.

>> THIS IS THE MASSIVE SHIFT PRIOR TO 2020 AND 2018.

IF YOU RECALL, WE WERE ON THE ELECTION NIGHT SHOW AND YOU TALK ABOUT HOW MARTHA MCSALLY WAS IN THE LEAD AND DROP-OFF WAS YOUNGER AND MORE PROGRESSIVE AND WE NEW IT WAS LIKELY KYRSTEN SINEMA WOULD WIN AND 2020, WE SAW REPUBLICANS UNDERPERFORM WITH EARLY VOTING AND CHANGE TO ELECTION DAY AND DROP-OFF VOTES AND WE SAW THE MOST EXTREME VERSION IN THIS CYCLE.

>> Ted: IS THAT THE TRUMP PHENOMENON THAT IT WAS RIGGED, MAKE SURE YOU GO IN-PERSON.

>> DON'T TRUST AND SHOW UP IN MINISTER.

IN-PERSON.

>> Ted: I THINK THE PARTY ITSELF, VOTER SUPPRESSION REARED ITS UGLY HEAD AND ANYONE BUYING THIS?

>> THEY CLAIMED THAT THE ONLY CENTERS WERE IN REPUBLICAN CENTERS.

WE LOOKED AT THE MAPS IN SWING AREAS, DEMOCRATIC AREAS AND IT'S THROUGHOUT MARICOPA COUNTY AND THAT COMBINED SAYING WE SHOULD BE WINNING 70% AND 80% AND I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TOWN STALL MORETRYING TO INSTALLPOINT TO AND SAY WHEN THESE THINGS DON'T COME BACK AND SEE, I TOLD YOU THIS IS FRAUD AND NOTHING THERE.

>> Ted: I ASKED WHAT THE VOTE COUNT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR ABOUT CAMPAIGNS AND WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT THE VOTERS?

TO ME, IT SAYS WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION.

>> IT SAYS CANDIDATES MATTER AND CAN'T PUT AN R OR D. YOU HAVE TO RUN A GOOD CAMPAIGN AND APPEAL TO THE UNDECIDED VOTERS.

THAT'S WHAT WE SAW WITH REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES.

IT WAS NARRATIVE AND HOSTILE.

I DON'T FEEL THEY DID VERY MUCH TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR THEM AND JUST VOTE AGAINST THEIR OPPONENTS.

I THINK THAT WAS A MISTAKE.

REPUBLICANS HAVE HAD A LOT OF LUCK GETTING UNDECIDED VOTERS IN THE PAST AND THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO BE INTERESTED IN THAT THIS CYCLE.

>> Ted: KARI LAKE WAS TRASHING HER OWN PARTY, THE PARTY OF McCAIN AND DRIVE A STAKE THROUGH THE HEART OF McCAIN.

THOUGHT THAT'S SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT.

>> LAST I CHECKED JOHN McCAIN NEVER LOST A CAMPAIGN IN ARIZONA.

TO GO AFTER PEOPLE IN YOUR OWN PARTY TRYING TO BE MORE POSITIVE, IT DIDN'T JIVE WITH WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING ON DOING.

>> Ted: ANYTHING GENUINELY SURPRISE YOU SO FAR?

>> I THINK THE GAP OF THE ELECTION NIGHT EARLY DROP FOR DEMOCRATS, 250,000 OR SO FOR MARK KELLY WAS SHOCKINGLY HIGH.

WE SAID DEMOCRATS NEEDED A HUNDRED THOUSAND VOTE LEAD INTO THE POLLING PLACE VOTES AND WAS MUCH HIGHER AND CONVERSELY, THE POLLING PLACE VOTES FOR REPUBLICANS WERE SHOCKINGLY HIGH.

WE CREATED A DIVIDED ELECTION SYSTEM TO YOUR POINT, WE'LL SEE EARLY VOTES TREND DIRECTLY.

>> Ted: IF THEY STAND, ARIZONA MORE PURPLE THAN IT WAS BEFORE ELECTION DAY?

>> ARIZONA DISCERN DISCERNINGLY AND PURPLE.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN REPUBLICANS COULDN'T WIN IT BACK IF THEY ELECTED MORE JOHN McCAIN FACTS IN THE FUTURE.

>> Ted: GREAT INFORMATION AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.

UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, EFFORTS TO HELP VALLEY LATINO CHILDREN IMPACTED BY DIABETES.

DIE BEE TEASE.

DIE DIE DIABETES.

A SIX-YEAR STUDY LOOKING AT THE IMPACT OF EDUCATION AND EXERCISE ON VALLEY LATINO CHILDREN AFFECTED BY PRE-AND TYPE 2 DIABETES AND RESULTS RELEASED.

FOR MORE WHAT THEY FOUND, WE WELCOME ASU'S EDISON COLLEGE OF NURSING AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE IVY CENTER OF WELLNESS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

GABE, HOW BIG OF A PROBLEM IS DIABETES IN LATINO FAMILIES?

>> IT REALLY ADDRESSES THE ENTIRE FAMILY AND WE TALK ABOUT THE KIDS AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF KIDS WITH TYPE 2 2 DIABETES, PARTICULARLY SEVERE OBESITY.

>> Ted: LATINO YOUTH IN THE VAM VALLEY AND WHY?

>> UPSTREAM FACTORS IN ADDITION TO THE BIOLOGY AND WE KNOW THERE'S BEHAVIORS AND A COMPLEX ISSUES WHY CERTAIN GROUPS ARE AT RISK.

>> WE STARTED THE PROGRAM IN 2005 BECAUSE OF THE HIGH AMOUNT OF REFERRALS WE WERE RECEIVING FOR CHILDREN WHO WERE OBESE AND MAJORITY LATINO POPULATION AND BECAUSE THEY HAD ALL OF THESE HEALTH RISKS OF DEVELOPING TYPE 2 DIABETES, WE FELT THERE WAS AN INTERVENTION NEEDED FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES TO DELAY OR PREVENT THE ONSET TYPE 2 DIABETES.

>> THAT SHOWS YOU, THAT SHOWS THEM THIS IS REAL AND INTERVENTION IS DEFINITELY WARRANTED?

>> YEAH, I THINK THAT THE STUDY ITSELF REALLY SUPPORTED THE INTERVENTION THAT WE WERE TRYING TO PUT FORWARD TO HELP THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE AND SO, FINDING WAYS TO VALIDATE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS CAN WORK AND CAN HELP IF THE COMMUNITY, IT WAS IMPORTANT.

>> Ted: EDUCATION AND EXERCISE SEEM LIKE THE BIGGIES.

>> WE THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU PUT INTO YOUR BODY AND THEN THE TYPE OF PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT AND THAT'S WHY WE BRING THE ENTIRE FAMILY TO THINK ABOUT CHANGING AND SUSTAINING BEHAVIORS OVER TIME.

>> Ted: HOW WAS THE TRIAL CONDUCTED?

>> WE TAKE 117 KIDS AND ALL OF WHO HAVE PREDIABETES AND FLIP A COIN AND TWO-THIRDS INTO A LIFESTYLE INTERINTERVENTIONLIFE INTERVENTION.

AFTER THE INTERVENTION OR AFTER WHAT WE CALL USUAL CARE AND ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO SEE HOW LONG THOSE EFFECTS MAY HAVE MAINTAINED OVER TIME.

>> Ted: DID YOU GET THE RESULTS YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD GET FROM THIS?

>> I THINK WE DID GET SOME OF THE OUTCOMES AND SAW IMPROVEMENTS IN QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE FAMILIES WHO PARTICIPATED IN BOTH AND IN BIGGER IMPACT OF QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE KIDS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE CLASSES.

, AS WELL AS BOTH GROUPS IMPROVED THE BLOOD SUGAR MEANING THEY REDUCED A RISK FOR TYPE 2 DIABETES.

>> OBVIOUSLY, FOCUSING ON KIDS AND FAMILIES ARE INVOLVED HERE, AS WELL AND SHOW THE NUMBERS, AND THE BLOOD SUGAR NUMBERS AND THAT HAS TO BE POWERFUL STUFF.

>> I THINK THE FOCUSING ON THE FAMILY IS REALLY IMPORTANT WITH BEHAVIOR CHANGE.

KIDS ALONE ARE ABLE TO MAKE THE CHANGES AND THEY NEED THE SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE IMPACT IN THEIR DAILY LIVES.

>> Ted: WHAT PREVENTION SERVICES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT IS RECOMMENDED AND SUGGESTED?

>> SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, HOW MUCH INTERVENTION IS NECESSARY?

WE THINK WITH THIS PROGRAM, IT'S 50 HOURS AND HOW DO YOU DELIVER 50 HOURS OF EDUCATION?

WE THINK IT'S THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS.

NO ONE SECTOR IS ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT AMOUNT OF EDUCATION TO FAMILIES.

AND THAT'S WHERE THIS RESEARCH STUDY IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE BROUGHT SECTORS TOGETHER AND WE BRING YMCA AND TO DELIVER INTERVENTION THAT OTHERWISE IN ANY ONE AVENUE WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED.

>> Ted: HOW DOES IT AFFECT AN AVERAGE STUDY?

>> WHAT'S INVOLVED, IN OTHER WORDS?

>> SO THE INTERVENTION PART OF IT, THEY HAD A TOTAL OF 12 CLASSES AND THEY HAD CHARGES THAT WERECLASSES ONNUTRITION AND HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THEMSELVES AND TALKED ABOUT SELF-ESTEEM AND TALKED ABOUT HOW THE FAMILY CAN COMMUNICATE BETTER WHEN IT COMES TO CHANGES, AS WELL AS PHYSICAL ACTIVITY PART.

>> Ted: YOU LEARNED CLASSROOM AND YOU HAVE, I WOULD IMAGINE, YOU HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND MOVE, TOO.

>> KIDS I ARE WITH THEIR FAMILIES AT THE Y FOR SIX MONTHS AND AN ADDITIONAL THIRD DAY THAT THEY'RE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE PRESCRIBED THAT.

GO OUT WITH YOUR FAMILY AND AT LEAST GET 60 MINUTES IN AND THREE DAYS OF PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AS AN ENTIRE FAMILY IS EFFECTIVE EFFECTIVE.

>> Ted: WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH THIS INFORMATION.

>> WELL,?

>> PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW THIS PROGRAM CAN BE SENT TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND HOW WE CAN DUPLICATE IT AND JUST EMPHASIZE THAT PREVENTION PART.

PREVENTION IS KEY IN A LOT OF THESE FAMILIES AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED AND DESERVE.

>> Ted: THANK YOU BOTH, GOOD STUFF AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>>> SAM, WHERE DOES THIS 2.

2.1 BILLION PROJECT STAND.

>> SO WHATSTAND?

>> THE CITY COUNCIL VOTES TO SEND THIS TO THE BALLOT AND BASICALLY, THE CITY WILL HAVE TO APPROVE THE PLANS LATER ON IN NOVEMBER AND I THINK NOVEMBER 29th IS THE DATE AND THEN AT THAT POINT, DURING THE SAME MEETING, THEY'LL VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO JUST SEND THAT TO A SPECIAL ELECTION IN MAY.

AND IF THAT HAPPENS, VOTERS WHO GREEN LIGHT IT OR DON'T.

>> Ted: IT'S GOING TO VOTERS IF IT GOES AT ALL.

THE COUNCIL WON'T VOTE WITH THAT VOTE APPROVAL.

>> LET'S GET PARTICULARS, THE EXACT LOCATION.

>> THE EXACT LOCATION IS TEMPE TOWN LAKE.

IT'S ONLY A COUPLE MILES AWAY FROM SKY HARBOR.

IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE TOWN LAKE DAM IS.

IT'S >> Ted: IT'S A DUMP RIGHT NOW AND IT HAS A CITY MUNICIPAL OPERATION'S YARD AND NOT GENERATING TAX MONEY AND BEEN ONE OF THE BIG ARGUMENTS FROM THE COYOTES AND WHAT DOES THE CITY HAVE TO LOSE.

THEY WANT WHAT?

CONDOS AND WHAT ELSE?

>> IT'S A WHOLE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AND THEY HAVE RESTAURANTS, STORES THEY PLAN THE HOCKEY ARENA, OBVIOUSLY, AND APARTMENTS AND THE APARTMENTS ARE THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL PIECE, BUT ALL OF THAT TOGETHER IS NEEDED TO SORT OF MAKE THE STADIUM ARENA FINANCIALLY DOABLE.

>> Ted: TALK ABOUT WHY THE APARTMENTS ARE CONTROVERSIAL.

>> THERE'S AN AGREEMENT FROM WAY BACK IN THE '90S BETWEEN THE CITY OF PHOENIX WHICH OWNS SKY HARBOR AND TEMPE EXIT AND IT HAS TO DO WITH WHERE HOUSING CAN BE BUILT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF ANGRY RESIDENTS SAYING IT'S TOO LOUD.

AND SO, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OF WHAT THAT RULE SAYS.

TEMPE DOESN'T THINK THEY'RE BREAKING RULES BY PUTTING THESE APARTMENTS THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE SOUNDPROOF AND CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT AND SOUND PROOFED.

AND PHOENIX IS SAYING, WELL, IF YOU DO THAT, IT WILL CANCEL OUT THIS NIGHT PATH THAT WE HAVE, THAT IS CURRENTLY QUIET ENOUGH TO NOT DISTURB RESIDENTS.

>> Ted: PHOENIX IS SAYING IF YOU PUT THIS UP, SEND PLANES OVER AREAS THAT WEREN'T GETTING IT BEFORE AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT.

>> I WROTE A STORY AND IT'S AN INTERESTING THREAT BECAUSE THE FAA, THE AGENCY THAT DECIDES WHERE PLANES FLY AND ONE OF THEIR BIG CRITERIA IS IF WE CHANGE THE FLIGHT PATH, WILL WE ANNOY MORE RESIDENTS OR FEWER.

TO CHANGE THE FLIGHT PATH SO YOU'RE FLYING OVER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT DON'T HAVE NOISE CANCELLATION INSTEAD THE APARTMENTS IS A QUESTIONABLE THING.

>> Ted: I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

ALSO, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CRITICS ARE SAYING WHAT PHOENIX IS WORRIED ABOUT, THESE COMPLAINTS WILL KEEP SKY HARBOR FROM FURTHER EXPANSION.

>> ABOUT KEEPING RESIDENTS HAPPY.

IF YOU HAVE RESIDENTS WHO COME OUT AND OPPOSE AGAINST AN EXPANSION, THEN THIS IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION FOR SKY HARBOR.

>> Ted: A 30 YEAR PROPERTY TAX ON THE ARENA AND ALL SORTS OF TAX EXEMPTION.

WHAT KIND OF SWEET DEAL DO WE HAVE?

>> SO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY, THE COYOTES WERE IN GLENDALE AND GLENDALE OWNED THEIR ARENA AND THEY PAID RENT AND THIS WON'T BE THE SITUATION.

THE COYOTES ARE PAYING THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS PROJECT AND COLLECTING A SMALL PORTION OF SALE'S TAX STUFF THAT'S GENERATED ON SITE TO PAY FOR, LIKE, THE LAN CLEAN-UP AND START-UP COSTS.

AND THEN, THEY'RE COVERING THE REST.

WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS THE PROPERTY TAX BREAK FOR 30 YEARS.

SO THAT'S COMPARED TO OTHER STADIUMS LIKE IN PHOENIX, LIKE PHOENIX IS GIVEN A 99 YEARS TAX BREAK.

THIS IS A MODERATE ASK IN THE CITY.

>> Ted: LET'S SAY THEY SEND IT TO A SPECIAL ELECTION IN MAY, WHAT IS THE PRO ARGUMENTS AND CONARGUMENTS.

>> RANDY KEATING IN SUPPORT, HE THINKS IT'S A SLAM DUNK AND THE CITY ISN'T ON THE HOOK.

IT'S THE COYOTES AND IF YOU TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE, THEY MIGHT QUESTION, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE COYOTES AND NOT TO GET TOO DEEP SPOT GLENDALE THING.

AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT PIECE OF LAND, WHICH IS TEMPE'S LAST BIG CHUNK OF LAND TO DEVELOP, IF THEY'RE USING IT PROPERLY OR GETTING THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT OF THAT DEAL.

>> Ted: AND I WOULD IMAGINE THE TAX BREAKS WOULD BE A PROBLEM AS FAR AS OPPONENTS ARE CONCERNED.

>> AND THOSE TYPES OF TAX BREAKS, THE GOLD WATER INSTITUTE AND WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVOCATES BECAUSE, IN THE LATTER CASE, THERE SHOULD BE MORE PUBLIC UTILITY THERE.

AND SO, YEAH, YOU'LL HEAR FROM THOSE GROUPS.

>> Ted: WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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