- I often say this it's so unfortunate what opera has become in this country, this notion that you have to go into gilded halls in your tuxedo and arrive by limo to arrive there and pay hundreds, if not thousands of dollars for great seats.

$10, why is that significant?

- It's significant for me because I just think opera has to go in the opposite direction, you know, I love a fun opening night, but I honestly think that opera's, you know, opera has, was always, I feel like I was always fed as a student this narrative that opera is where all of the arts converge, why has it been ignored cinema for so many years?

You actually have the ability to reach more people, create more digital content that can be in front of more people and I think opera in the next decades, I think it has to be something that feels more open and less, I want it to lean less into a sort of elitist, you know, exclusive art form.