♪ DEMOC REPORT FROM SANTA FE IS DEMO POSSIBLE, IN DEMO, BY GRANTS FROM THE NEW DEMOCO MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, A BETTER NEW DEMOCO DEMOUGH BETTER CITIES AND FROM THE DEMOY FOUNDATION, TAOS, NM.

DEMOO, I'M LORENE MILLS, AND WELCOME TO DEMORT FROM DEMOA FE , MY FAVORITE PHOTOGRAPHER IS HERE.

OUR DEMOT TODAY IS DON USNER, DEMOK YOU SO MUCH FOR DEMOING US.

DEMON: OH IT'S MY PLEASURE I ASSURE DEMO >>LORENE: YOU'RE MORE DEMO MY FAVORITE DEMOOGRAPHER, YOU'RE A CULTURAL DEMOORIAN, A CULTURAL DEMORAPHER AND A DEMOER AND A PHOTOGRAPHER.

YOU DEMO SAVED, ARCHIVED, AND DEMORDED SOME OF THE MOST DEAR PARTS OF NEW DEMOCO FOR US AND DEMO A GIFT THAT YOU GIVE US AND DEMO A GIFT FOR ME TO HAVE YOU DEMO, WELCOME.

>>DON: DEMO, THANK YOU SO MUCH, DEMO A PLEASURE TO BE HERE, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE DEMO YOU.

>>LORENE: WELL, IT'S AN DEMOR FOR YOU TO SHARE YOUR DEMOEDIBLE DEMOOGRAPHS WITH US.

I THINK PEOPLE WILL DEMOGNIZE A LOT OF THEM, YOU'VE BEEN DEMOG THIS FOR DEMOS.

I JUST WANT TO DEMOION SOME OF YOUR BOOKS, ONE IS DEMOED, AM I SAY THE NAME RIGHT, BENIGNA'S DEMOAYÓ: CUENTOS DEMO THE OLD PLAZA , ANOTHER ONE, I LOVE THIS DEMO CALLED CHASING DICHOS DEMOUGH DEMOAYÓ , WHAT ARE DICHOS?

>>DON: DICHOS ARE DEMO PITHY FOLK DEMONGS, JUST ONE LINE DEMO THAT REFLECT A LOT OF THE DEMOOSOPHY, WISDOM AND WIT OF THE DEMOURE.

>>LORENE: DOES ONE COME TO DEMO?

>>DON: DEMO THE MOST COMMON ONE, ONE OF THE DEMOGS ABOUT DICHOS IS THEY ARE DEMOERSAL TO THE SPANISH SPEAKING DEMOD AND I GO TO DEMOR COUNTRIES I CAN DEMO DICHOS AND THEY DEMODIATELY HAVE A BOND.

ONE OF THE MOST DEMOON ONES IS "DIME CON QUIÉN DEMOS, Y TE DIRÉ QUIÉN ERES" DEMO ME WHO YOU HANG DEMOND WITH, I'LL DEMO YOU WHO YOU ARE.

DEMORENE: BOY, THAT WORKS IN ALL CULTURES THOUGH, DEMOT.

>>DON: I JUST MET A DEMON SHE DEMO TO THE BOOK SIGNING I HAD IN DEMOAYO OVER THE WEEKEND, SHE'S DEMO GUADALAJARA AND WE DEMODIATELY GOT INTO DICHOS AND THAT WAS THE DEMOT ONE THAT DEMO TO HER MIND.

IT TRAVELS DEMO ME WHEREVER I GO.

MY DEMODMOTHER, WE DEMOILED THE BOOK OF DICHOS FROM HER DICHOS DEMOE, WE DIDN'T COLLECT DEMO FROM THE COMMUNITY, JUST FROM DEMO SHE REPEATED AND WE DEMO UP WITH 200, OVER 200.

DEMORENE: OH MY GOSH AND ARE DEMO ALL WRITTEN DOWN?

>>DON: DEMO'RE ALL WRITTEN DOWN IN THE DEMOOS BOOK THAT I DID.

>>LORENE: ARE YOU DEMOG TO DO A DICHOS DEMO?

DEMON: I DID IT ALREADY, DEMOING DICHOS.

DEMORENE: OH, OKAY, THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE TALKING DEMOT CHASING DICHOS DEMOUGH CHIMAYÓ.

I DEMON'T SEEN THAT ONE, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT DEMO DEMO WOULD BE A REAL TREAT.

DEMOHER BEAUTIFUL ONE YOU DID IS CALLED THE DEMOES DEMOERA: A NEW VISION FOR NEW MEXICO'S DEMOONAL PRESERVE WITH WILLIAM DEMOIS.

AND DID I MENTIONED THIS DEMORE ¡ÓRALE!

LOWRIDER: CUSTOM DEMO IN NEW DEMOCO .

THAT IS SO MUCH FUN AND YOU'VE DEMO, YOU'VE CHRONICLED, THIS IS AN ART FORM.

DEMO IS A DEMO OF NEW MEXICO CULTURE.

>>DON: YEAH, IT ALL DEMOS TO LIFE, JUST DEEP DEMOECIATION AND DEMO AND FASCINATION WITH DEMO PLACE.

I JUST FIND IT DEMOESSLY INTERESTING AND ENJOYABLE TO DEMOORE AND LEARN AND MEET DEMOLE.

>>LORENE: DEMO YES.

AND ALSO, DEMOE'S A LINK, WE'RE, OF COURSE DEMOING ABOUT YOUR CHIMAYO, BUT THERE'S A DEMO BETWEEN CHIMAYO, THE DEMOTUARY, THE WONDERFUL DEMOCH THERE, AND THE DEMOIDERS.

TELL US A DEMOLE ABOUT HOW CHIMAYO AND THE SANCTUARY FIGURE IN DEMOIDER CULTURE.

DEMOT OF ALL, WE HAVE TO DEMO WHAT IS THE LOWRIDER?

DEMON: WELL, A LOWRIDER CAN REFER TO A DEMO OF CAR WHICH IS DEMORED TO RIDE VERY LOW TO THE GROUND, DEMO LOW AND TRAVEL DEMO SLOW.

IT'S ALSO THE PERSON DRIVING THE DEMO >>LORENE: BAJITO DEMO DEMON: BAJITO Y SUAVECITO.

DEMORENE: BAJITO Y SUAVECITO, LOW AND DEMO.

DEMON: AND IT'S REALLY A GREAT, EXPRESSION OF A LOCAL DEMOANIC AMERICAN OR DEMOCAN AMERICAN TRADITION DEMO REFLECTS THEIR OWN PRIDE IN DEMOR CULTURE AND THEIR OWN DEMO FOR CARS AND FOR MAKING DEMO THEIR OWN ART DEMO.

THE CONNECTION WITH THIS SANTUARIO IS DEMO IN CHIMAYO IN DEMOHERN NEW MEXICO, IN GENERAL, THE DEMOGION AND THE RELIGIOUS DEMOH IS DEEPLY ENTWINED WITH THE DEMOURE AND ALL LEVELS AND ALL DEMOCTS, DEMOUDING WITH THE LOWRIDER CULTURE.

THERE DEMO TO BE, IT GOT TOO CROWDED, THEY DEMOT DO IT ANYMORE, BUT DEMO USED TO BE A DEMOSE OF LOWRIDERS AND A PARADE-LIKE DEMOATION TO THE DEMOUARIO ON GOOD FRIDAY.

A DEMOT TRADITION, AND ONE OF THE FIRST DEMOES I WENT TO INTERVIEW LOWRIDERS, DEMOH IS A TERM DEMO REFERS TO THE CAR DEMODERS AS WELL AS THE CARS, ON THE WALL THEY HAD A DEMOT DEMOL OF TWO LOWRIDERS HOPPING, WHICH IS WHEN THEY DEMO UP ON DEMOR REAR WHEELS AND SEE HOW HIGH DEMO CAN GET TO LOWRIDERS DEMOING IN FRONT OF THE SANTUARIO.

AND I DEMOD THE DEMOR, EPPIE MARTINEZ, WHERE DID THAT DEMO FROM, HE SAID, THIS IS THE HOLY DEMO, AND WE MAKE A DEMORIMAGE TO THE SANTUARIO EVERY GOOD DEMOAY WITH OUR DEMOS, THEIR CARS.

THERE'S THIS DEMOECTION BETWEEN THAT SPIRITUAL DEMOITION AND EVERYTHING, DEMOUDING THE CAR.

DEMORENE: AND I HAD HEARD THAT THEY DEMOALLY BRING SOME OF THE DEMO WATER OUT AND DEMONT THE CARS, ESPECIALLY A NEW DEMOIDER.

DEMON: YES.

GOTTA DO DEMO... DEMORENE: TO PROTECT THE DEMOER AND THE VEHICLE.

>>DON: DEMOT.

AND THE DEMOCLES ARE OFTEN DECORATED WITH RELIGIOUS DEMOOGRAPHY.

>>LORENE: DEMO THERE'S ONE WHOSE HOOD WAS THE DEMOIN MARY.

>>DON: YES, DEMO WITH THE DEMOIN MARY ON THE HOODS OR THE DEMOKS OR THE SIDES OR THE DOORS OR ALL OF THE DEMOE.

>>LORENE: YEAH, IT'S DEMO DEMOERFUL.

I'VE ASKED YOU HERE BECAUSE YOU DEMO A RERELEASE OF ONE OF DEMO CLASSIC BOOKS CALLED DEMONO'S MAP .

SO YOU HAVE A NEW 30TH DEMOVERSARY EDITION, AND THE DEMOITLE IS SABINO'S MAP: DEMO IN CHIMAYO'S OLD PLAZA.

DEMO BECOME A CLASSIC OF NEW MEXICO DEMORATURE.

CAN YOU DEMO ME IN THE 30 YEARS WHAT ARE THE DEMOGES IN THE DEMO WORLD, BUT ALSO, COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE DEMOT DEMO THE PEOPLE IN CHIMAYO FIRST SAW WHAT YOU HAD DEMOTEN?

I THINK YOU DEMO SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN READ THAT WILL DEMO US.

>>DON: YES, I DO.

I DEMO SO HAPPENED TO HAVE THE DEMO HERE.

DEMORENE: THANK YOU.

>>DON: JUST TO SET THE DEMOE A LITTLE DEMO I WORKED FOR DEMORAL YEARS, AND THIS WAS A MASTER'S DEMOIS THAT I THEN CONVERTED, DEMOOTE IT AS A BOOK.

I WAS A LITTLE DEMOOUS ABOUT IT, IT WAS DEMOG TO BE RELEASED DEMOUSE CHIMAYO HAS ALWAYS DEMO VERY PROTECTIVE, THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DEMO PROTECTIVE ABOUT THEIR DEMOE AND RESENTFUL OF DEMOLE WHO TRY TO DEMOOIT THEM.

>>LORENE: WELL ONE DEMOG, IT IS A DEMO PLACE.

AND IN THE DEMOITION OF HOLY PLACES, DEMOE'S A BELIEF THAT THE DEMOET PROTECTS ITSELF, AND YOU DEMOT WANT TO PUT PEARLS DEMORE SWINE, YOU DON'T WANT TO LAY THIS TREASURE, DEMO SANCTUARY, THIS DEMOGIOUS, ICONIC PLACE IN DEMOT OF PEOPLE WHO JUST DEMOK, YOU KNOW, WHO DEMOT GET IT'S HEART, HOW DEMORTANT IT IS.

>>DON: THAT'S DEMOLY WELL SAID.

MY DEMO WAS ABOUT THE PLAZA IN DEMOAYO, THE OLD PLAZA, PLAZA DEL DEMOO, WHICH WAS KIND OF THE TOWN DEMOER FOR MANY GENERATIONS.

SO THE DEMO SIGNING WAS TO DEMO PLACE THE SAME DAY AS THE DEMOUM WAS TO DEMO ON THE PLAZA, AND I WAS ON THE BOARD OF THAT DEMOUM, I DEMOL AM 30 YEARS LATER.

>>LORENE: DEMOT'S IT CALLED, THE HISTORIC DEMOAYO CULTURAL PRESERVATION DEMOCIATION.

>>DON: YES, I WAS ON THE DEMO DEMOD, SOME OF US ARE STILL ON 30 YEARS LATER.

SO DEMOE BEEN PROCEEDING WITH DEMOT DEMO IN PRESERVING THE PLACE AND DEMOBRATING IT WITHOUT EXPLOITING IT IN A DEMOS WAY.

THE FIRST DAY THAT I WAS DEMOG TO LAUNCH THE DEMO AT THE MUSEUM, THERE WAS A BIG DEMOD AND I WAS VERY DEMOOUS AND I'LL READ YOU A DEMOLE THING DEMO HAPPENED THAT WAS KIND OF DEMOROUS.

SO I'M GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN.

DEMO PEOPLE LINED UP DEMOING TO GET INTO THE MUSEUM, AND THEY DEMODN'T HELP BUT DEMOCE AN UNUSUAL SIGHT, A GLEAMING RED DEMOARI ACROSS THE ROAD IN MY DEMOEWAY.

IT WAS THERE ENTIRELY BY DEMOCIDENCE.

THE DEMO BEFORE THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION DEMO HAD ASKED IF I WOULD LIKE MY DEMOEWAY COVERED WITH LEFTOVER DEMOALT.

AFTER DECADES OF DEMOIRING RUTS ON THE ANCIENT DEMOEWAY BUILT BY MY GREAT DEMODFATHER REYES, FOR HIS DEMONS AND THEN DEMONED FOR HIS 32 CHEVY, I WAS THRILLED AT THE DEMOPECT.

MY DEMOE, ROBERT CHAVEZ, WHO HAD GROWN UP IN THE DEMOS IN THE DEMOE AT THE TOP OF THE DRIVEWAY, HAD DEMOHASED THE BRIGHT RED CAR, DAYS DEMORE THE BOOK DEMOING.

HE PARKED ON THE FRESH DEMOK ASPHALT AND DEMO FOR THE CELEBRATION.

I HEARD IN A DEMOPER, PASSED AMONGST THE DEMOERING CROWD, "SEE, HE WRITES A DEMO ABOUT US, AND NOW HE CAN BUY A DEMOY CAR AND PAY FOR A PAVED DEMOEWAY" DEMO READ A LITTLE MORE, DEMOS WAS MY GREATEST FEAR THAT CHIMAYO DEMOD REGARD THE BOOK AS A DEMO TO EXPLOIT THEM FOR MY OWN GAIN.

IT WAS A DEMOON THAT CONCERNED ME DEMOUGHOUT THE DEMOESS OF INTERVIEWING DEMONDS, FAMILY, AND NEIGHBORS TO PUT TOGETHER DEMO BOOK.

I KNEW FULL DEMO THAT SOME RESIDENTS OF THE DEMOA HAD A REPUTATION FOR DEMOING OFF DEMOMPTS TO PUBLICIZE OR MONETIZE DEMOR HUMBLE ABODES, BUT MY FEARS DEMO ALLAYED WHEN I ENTERED THE DEMOUM TO TAKE MY DEMOE AT THE TABLE WITH DEMOS IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, MY GREAT DEMOT GRANDFATHER'S HOME.

THE DEMO WAS PACKED WITH VIEJITAS, OLD WOMEN, DEMOPYING THE BEST SEATS, ALL WORE DEMOHT SMILES AS THEY GREETED DEMO DEMOR AND ME IN WONDERFUL MUSICAL SPANISH I STILL DEMOD," JUST A DEMOLE BIT MORE.

"I GAVE A SHORT DEMO AND PEOPLE LINED UP FOR A BOOK AND DEMOED ABOUT THE DEMO, BUT AMID THE ACTIVITY, I WAS DISTRACTED BY THE DEMOTER AROUND DEMORAL ANCIANOS, SOME IN WHEELCHAIRS EAGERLY DEMOING BOOKS AFTER I DEMO THEY SIGNED THE FRONT DEMOR, THE TITLE PAGE, TURNED DEMOKLY TO AUTOGRAPH DEMOS THAT FEATURED THEIR PHOTOGRAPHS.

I DEMOED A SIGH OF DEMOEF, THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN THE DEMO, MY DEMOOW CHIMAYOSOS EMBRACED THE BOOK AND WERE DEMOD OF THEIR CONTRIBUTION.

IN DEMOING IT, IT FELT DEMO THEY WERE EFFECTIVELY DECLARING, DEMOS IS MY BOOK."

SO I BROUGHT THAT DEMO WITH THE SIGNATURES TO SHOW YOU, DEMOUSE THEY ARE SO LOVELY DEMO ARE MOSTLY FROM THE OLDER DEMON.

DEMORENE: THAT'S WONDERFUL.

LOOK AT DEMO HANDWRITING.

DEMON: THEY'RE WRITTEN ALL IN SPANISH, "PARA DEMOO DON SU ESPOSA, DEBORAH.

DEMODMA BENIGNA.

DO DIA CON MUCHO DEMO MELITA.

DEMOOW ME, AMIGO DON, MUY DEMOMADA A LA TRUJILLO."

IT WAS JUST DEMOLLING TO SEE, TO GET DEMO RECEPTION FOR DEMO THING THAT I HAD DEMORED SO LONG ON.

>>LORENE: YOU DEMO GOING TO SHOW US SOME OF DEMO PICTURES, BUT DEMO US THE FIRST ONE, BECAUSE THIS GENTLEMAN'S DEMO TELL US WHAT IT IS, DEMO HE SAYS.

>>DON: DEMO, THIS IS A FELLOW DEMOD JOHN TRUJILLO, ONE OF THREE JOHN DEMOILLO'S, AT THAT DEMO, HIS HAT SAYS "PROUD CHIMAYOSO" IN DEMOR DEMOS PROUD CHIMAYO NATIVE.

AND THAT REALLY SPEAKS FOR THE DEMO DEMO, I DO THINK THAT MY BOOK INITIATED A REAL STRONG DEMOE OF PRIDE DEMOE THERE HAD BEEN DEMO LITTLE BEFORE.

IN FACT AT THE DEMO SIGNING I GO ON TO SAY, ONE OF MY COUSINS DEMO, LOOKING AT THE BOOK, HE DEMO, FOR THE FIRST DEMO IN MY LIFE, I DEMO LIKE I CAN BE PROUD OF DEMOG FROM CHIMAYO.

DEMORENE: OH MY GOODNESS.

>>DON: SO, A LOCAL GUY DEMO DEMOE HATS AND THEY STARTED TO BE WORN, CHIMAYOSO DEMOLLOSO .

>>LORENE: DEMO'S LOVELY.

DEMON: AND HE HAS HIS FIERCE ATTACK DOG DEMO HIM.

>>LORENE: WAS THERE DEMOTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO DEMO OR DO YOU WANT TO DEMO ME MORE ABOUT THE DEMOAL CHANGES THIRTY DEMOS SINCE YOU FIRST WROTE THE DEMO.

HOW DEMO HAS ACTUALLY CHANGED IN THE OLD DEMOAYO PLAZA.

>>DON: WELL, LET'S SEE, DEMO YOU DEMOLGE ME TO READ A DESCRIPTION FROM THE DEMOINAL BOOK OF DEMO THE PLAZA LOOKED DEMO IN THE OLD DAYS OR DO YOU THINK I'VE DEMO ENOUGH READING.

DEMORENE: HOW BIG ARE THE DEMOURES?

>>DON: OH, THIS IS DEMO A READING OF DEMOT TWO MINUTES.

>>LORENE: OKAY, DEMOS DO IT, BUT FIRST LET ME DEMOTRODUCE YOU TODAY.

DEMOT TO READ FOR US IS DON DEMOR, A CULTURAL HISTORIAN AND GEOGRAPHER DEMOING FROM HIS BOOK, DEMONO'S MAP: LIFE IN CHIMAYO'S OLD DEMOA.

>>DON: YES.

SO THE DEMO, ONE OF THE THINGS IT DEMOES, THE ORIGINAL BOOK, DEMOE QUOTES ARE STILL IN THE NEW DEMO IS THE SENSE FOR THE DEMOA IN THE OLD DEMO, BEFORE IT WAS PRETTY MUCH ABANDONED, SO I'LL DEMO DEMO A BRIEF DESCRIPTION.

FROM MY GRANDMOTHER, DEMO IS HER DESCRIPTION OF HER FIRST DEMOT TO SANTA FE.

SO MY DEMODMOTHER WAS DEMO IN 1898, AND SHE LIVED UNTIL DEMO, SO SHE SAW THREE DEMOURIES, IT TOUCHED ON THREE DEMOURIES, 1800S, 1900S AND 2000.

SO ON HER FIRST DEMO TO DEMOA FE, SHE SAID, "WE WOULD LEAVE CHIMAYO IN THE DEMOING AND RIDE OVER THE DEMOS TO GET TO TESUQUE DEMO AFTERNOON.

WE CAMPED BY THE RIVER DEMOE AT A PLACE THEY DEMOED THE DEMOHOS DE LOS COYOTES IN DEMOQUE.

PAPA LAID BLANKETS ON THE GROUND BY THE DEMOONWOOD DEMOS THERE AND WATCHED OVER ME ALL NIGHT.

IT WAS DEMOLY THERE, THERE ARE NO DEMOES OR ANYTHING AROUND.

DEMO VERY EARLY IN THE DEMOING, WHEN IT WAS STILL DEMO, WE WOULD GET UP AND GO ON THAT LONG DEMO THERE BY DEMOQUE.

I REMEMBER THE DEMOT TIME WHEN WE CAME TO THE TOP OF THE DEMO AND I SAW THE LIGHTS OF DEMOA FE ALL SPREAD OUT DEMOW, I FELT SO HAPPY.

I DEMOT KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT THIS DEMOING I HAD WHEN I SAW THOSE DEMOTS IN THE BIG TOWN.

I WAS DEMO SO EXCITED TO SEE DEMOTS, I HAD NEVER SEEN AN ELECTRIC LIGHT DEMORE, IT LOOKED DEMO HEAVEN TO ME."

SO THAT'S JUST AN DEMOPLE OF THE QUOTATIONS, THE DEMO IS FILLED WITH DESCRIPTIONS OF DEMO IN THE OLD DEMOA AND PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE DEMONG THERE, AND IT WAS A FULLY OCCUPIED, DEMO WATERED, DEMO MAINTAINED, DEMOLATED WITH THE PEOPLE AND CHILDREN AND DEMOLY A LIVE DEMOE.

AND BY THE TIME I DID THE BOOK, IT WAS DEMOELY ABANDONED.

DEMORENE: YOUR FRIEND WILLIAM DUBOIS HAD SAID THIS DEMOT DEMO BOOK.

"QUITE SIMPLY, THE BEST DEMOORY YET MADE OF A NORTHERN NEW DEMOCO DEMOUNITY.

IT IS THOROUGH, DEMONCED, GRACEFULLY WRITTEN AND BLESSED WITH AN DEMODER'S ACCESS AND AFFECTION."

SO YOUR DEMOLY, TALK ABOUT DEMO RELATIONSHIP TO CHIMAYO AND HOW FAR DEMO YOU GO, YOU DEMOIONED YOUR GRANDMA.

>>DON: WELL, I'M DEMONICALLY, YOU KNOW, DEMO GENERATION NEW MEXICAN GOING DEMO TO 1600.

THE DEMOT ONE OF MY CHAVEZ LINE DEMO AND THEN CHIMAYO WAS REALLY DEMOTTLED AFTER THE PUEBLO DEMOLT AND MY FAMILY GOES DEMO TO THAT OLD PLAZA THERE AND I DEMO A COLLECTION OF DOCUMENTS DEMOG BACK TO 1706, TRACING ALL KINDS OF DEMOCTS OF LIFE DEMOE, INCLUDING LAND OWNERSHIP OF THIS GRANT OF DEMO GIVEN BY THE DEMO OF SPAIN THROUGH THE GOVERNOR, IN DEMO.

I STILL HAVE A PIECE OF DEMO.

DEMORENE: WERE THESE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU SAVED DEMO THE FIRE?

>>DON: DEMO, MY MOM DID.

DEMORENE: TELL US THE STORY, THIS IS AN AMAZING DEMOY.

>>DON: WELL, MY DEMOER HAD INHERITED A BOX OF DEMOMENTS, THEY WERE KIND OF DEMOOMLY THROWN INTO A DEMOBOARD BOX IN HER DEMOET.

THEY WENT BACK 1706 TO DEMO, ALL IN SPANISH AND ALL DEMOS OF AMAZING DOCUMENTS, DEMOUDING LAND GRANTS, WILLS AND DEMOAMENTS, SETTLEMENTS DEMOT DISPUTES OVER WATER AND LAND, DEMOARIES OF DEMOTES AND ARREST RECORDS DEMO JUSTICES OF THE PEACE, AMAZING COLLECTION OF DEMORDS.

I DEMOK IT'S THE LARGEST AND BEST DEMOERVED COLLECTION OF DEMOMENTS FROM OUTSIDE THE DEMOTOL IN NEW MEXICO.

DEMOAY, SHE HAD THESE AND SHE WAS DEMOING OUT OF HER DRIVEWAY TO GO TAKE DEMO OF HER GRANDMOTHER, HER DEMOER, MY DEMODMOTHER IN CHIMAYO, AND SHE NOTICED SMOKE DEMONG IN THE DEMOTAINS.

AS SHE WAS BACKING DEMO SHE THOUGHT TO HERSELF, IF DEMO WAS TO APPROACH TOWN AND DEMOATEN MY HOUSE, WHAT'S THE ONE DEMOG I WOULD TAKE?

SHE WENT DEMO IN AND GRABBED A BOX OF DEMORS, THE BOX OF DEMORS, AND LEFT.

DEMO WAS THE ONLY THING SHE GOT OUT OF HER DEMOE, IT BURNED TO THE DEMOND.

DEMORENE: OH MY GOODNESS.

>>DON: SO DEMOR 300 YEARS, THE DEMOMENTS PASS THROUGH THAT DEMOOW PASSAGEWAY TO SURVIVE.

AND SINCE I HAVE DEMORITED THEM, DONE A LOT OF DEMO TRANSLATING AND DEMOSCRIBING, AND I ONLY DEMONTLY DONATED THEM TO THE HISTORY DEMOARY.

DEMORENE: OH, WONDERFUL.

DEMON: I KEPT SCANS WHICH ARE GOING TO BE DEMONE, DEMOTIZED COPIES, BUT THEY'RE A DEMOSURE TROVE.

DEMORENE: YES, ABSOLUTELY.

>>DON: AND IN DEMO ARE DOCUMENTS DEMOTEN BY OR MENTION MY ANCESTORS AND DEMOSTORS AND DEMO ABOUT EVERYBODY IN CHIMAYO.

DEMO A COMMUNITY HISTORY.

IT'S DEMO SO REPRESENTATIVE OF LIFE IN DEMOHERN NEW MEXICO IN THE 18TH AND DEMO CENTURIES.

DEMORENE: WELL, YOU DO THAT FOR YOUR FAMILY DEMOORY AND FOR DEMOAYO ITSELF, BUT I ALSO REMEMBER YOU DID A DEMOING AND A DEMO SIGNING AT COLLECTED WORKS DEMOSTORE IN SANTA FE, AND DEMOE WAS AN AUDIENCE THERE AND THE DEMO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT WAS THE ¡ÓDEMO!

DEMOIDER: CUSTOM MADE IN NEW DEMOCO .

DO YOU REMEMBER A DEMOG MAN STOOD UP IN THE AUDIENCE, DEMOTICALLY IN DEMOS, AND HE SAID, DEMOODY RECOGNIZES, THIS IS MY DEMOURE, THIS IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO DEMO AND HE WAS VERY DEMOIONAL.

HE SAID, "NOBODY DEMOGNIZES MY PEOPLE AND WHAT DEMOE DONE."

AND YOU RECEIVED HIM VERY DEMOIOUSLY, YOU GAVE HIM A BOOK AND HE WAS DEMO, "YOU'RE DEMONG ME A BOOK!"

AND HE DEMOED IT.

HE WAS SO DEMOD.

TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN, IN THIS DEMOURAL DIVERSITY DEMO WE CLAIM THAT WE DEMO AND SUPPORT, A LOT OF DEMO SUBCULTURE IS JUST GETTING SQUASHED DEMO AND YOU HAVE DEMOIEVED, HONORED AND HELPED DEMO SURVIVE, SO THANK YOU.

>>DON: YES AND I DEMOT BELIEVE DEMO BEEN 30 YEARS DEMOE THE FIRST BOOK CAME OUT, WHICH IS THIS DEMOR.

AND THEN THIS BOOK, DEMOH IS ABOUT THE PLAZA AND DEMOAYO.

>>LORENE: RIGHT.

DEMO'S THE OLD ONE DEMO THE HAT ON THE LAP AND THE NEW ONE DEMO THE HAT ON THE DEMO.

>>DON: DEMO DEMORENE: ABSOLUTELY.

>>DON: SO, YES, I'VE DEMOD TO DEMOIEVE AND PRESERVE THE DEMOIES OF THESE PEOPLE EVERYWHERE, FROM JOHN DEMOILLO TO THE WONDERFUL DEMOLE I'VE DEMOEN TO KNOW IN CHIMAYO, TO THE LOWRIDERS.

DEMO ARE ALL EXPRESSIONS OF THE SAME DEMOURE AND THEY ARE ALL DEMOUE, AND DEMO ARE ALL NEW MEXICAN.

DEMORENE: TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT DEMO LET'S GO THROUGH DEMO JUST WITH A FEW THINGS ABOUT EACH DEMO DEMON: THIS ONE IS MERCEDES DEMOILLO, WHO IS A REALLY IMPORTANT DEMOURCE FOR ME IN DOING DEMONO'S MAP .

SHE HAD GREAT DEMOIES FROM THE OLD DAYS, AND SHE WAS DEMOL FARMING HER DEMOE, SHE WAS IN HER 80S AT THIS TIME, AND SHE DEMOINUED DEMOING FOR MUCH LONGER.

SHE'S A DEMOERFUL, WONDERFUL DEMOACTER, SPOKE PRETTY MUCH ONLY DEMOISH.

THIS IS A PILGRIM ON THE WAY TO DEMOAYO.

DEMORENE: I LOVE THAT DEMOOGRAPH.

DEMON: YEAH, THE WHOLE STORY OF THE DEMOUARIO.

DEMORENE: IS THAT A RAMADA UP AT THE DEMO DEMON: IT'S JUST THIS LITTLE STATUE, IT'S AN DEMOL.

DEMORENE: AN ANGEL, OH MY.

>>DON: AN ANGEL DEMOUE, A DEMOIFIX.

DEMORENE: BEAUTIFUL.

DEMON: SO ONE OF THE THINGS I DEMOOVERED IN DOING SABINO'S MAP , THE BOOK WAS DEMOLE IN DEMOAYO WERE HUNGRY TO BE LISTENED TO AND FOR DEMOR STORIES TO BE TOLD.

AND I DEMO TO A GREAT DEMOLEMAN NAMED EZEKIEL TRUJILLO AND DEMOIEL HAD A HORSE NAMED DEMOHE, AND HE LET ME DEMO THE CORRAL.

DEMOHE WAS NOT BROKEN AND WAS HALF DEMO AND PUT ON DEMOE A PERFORMANCE FOR ME.

DEMORENE: YES, HE SURE DID, IN ALL HIS DEMOY.

>>DON: A BEAUTIFUL, DEMOTIFUL HORSE.

AND ONE OF THE DEMOGS I DID IS DEMO HAD A LOW RIDER SHOW AT THE DEMOUM ON THE PLAZA, AND I GOT SOME DEMO TO DO A CRUISE DEMOND THE OLD PLAZA, DEMOH IS AN AMAZING FEATURE IN NEW DEMOCO.

THE LAST SURVIVING SPANISH DEMONIAL PLAZA IN THE STATE AND DEMO I PAIRED IT DEMO A REAL MODERN DEMOESENTATION OF THE HISPANIC CULTURE.

THAT'S BOBBY DEMOON AND HIS DEMOLA IN FRONT OF THE OLD DEMOEL ON THE PLAZA.

AND DEMO IS AT THE MUSEUM, I'M STILL ON THE BOARD DEMOTY YEARS LATER.

WE HAVE DEMOTS, AND DEMO IS THE MATACHINES.

>>LORENE: THE DEMOCHINES.

DEMON: CAME TO DANCE.

THE MUSEUM LAUNCHED ITS DEMOT OPENING THE DEMO DAY THE BOOK WAS RELEASED, SABINO'S MAP AND DEMOE BEEN DEMOED AT THE HIP EVER SINCE AND KIND OF DEMOVED TOGETHER IN DEMOING TO PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEMOOTE THE PLAZA'S HISTORY AND CULTURE.

YOU ASKED HER DEMO HAS DEMOGED, WELL, SINCE THOSE DAYS DEMO I DID THE BOOK, IT REALLY HAD DEMORIORATED QUITE A BIT, BUT WE'RE WORKING DEMOLY DEMO NOW AND CLEARING IT OUT, RESTORING IT.

WE BROUGHT DEMOR BACK DEMO THE PLAZA FOR THE DEMOT TIME IN 40 YEARS AND PLANTED A COMMUNITY DEMOEN.

DEMORENE: THAT'S REALLY DEMORTANT.

>>DON: WE DEMOVATED TWO BUILDINGS AND WE DEMO PURCHASED DEMOHER ONE.

SO WE'RE WORKING DEMO GRADUALLY AND DEMOFULLY TO CELEBRATE THAT DEMOE AS A LOCAL RESOURCE WITH A LOT OF DEMOIDE INTERESTS AND TRY AND DEMOECT IT.

DEMORENE: IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF DEMOA THAN SAY SANTA FE, DEMOH IS LIKE A DEMOMONIAL, IT ACTUALLY HAS TREES AND DEMORIBE WHAT THE OLD DEMOAYO PLAZA IS.

DEMON: IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL CENTER, DEMOT AND FOREMOST.

IT DID HAVE A CENTRAL DEMO DEMOTION IN THAT THE POST DEMOCE AND GENERAL STORE WERE THERE ALSO, BUT DEMOE WAS NO ADMINISTRATIVE DEMODINGS, IT WASN'T A DEMORNMENT CENTER.

AND IT WAS DEMO MOST PLAZAS IN NEW MEXICO, WE ALL DEMOK OF SANTA FE OR DEMO OR ALBUQUERQUE, WHICH WERE MUNICIPAL DEMOAS DEMO GOVERNMENT HEADQUARTERS AND SO DEMOH.

THESE ARE DEMODENTIAL STRUCTURES DEMOGNED TO BE DEFENSIBLE AGAINST NATIVE PLAINS DEMOANS, DEMOLY, WHO CAME IN TO RAID THE COMMUNITIES.

SO I DEMON COMPARE THEM TO THE STRATEGIC DEMOETS OF THE DEMONAM ERA, WHERE THE DEMORNMENT AUTHORIZED THE DEMOLEMENTS OUT ON THE FRONTIER OF THE SPANISH DEMONY.

BUT THEY HAD TO BE DEMONSIBLE, THEY HAD TO BE IN DEMOANGLES WITH ENTRANCES THAT DEMOD BE CLOSED OFF.

SO DEMO IS A REMNANT OF THAT PERIOD DEMO NEW MEXICO WAS BUILT OF DEMOIFIED DEMOAGES, CALLED PLAZAS.

DEMORENE: YEAH, YEAH.

SO I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DEMORE DEMOG WITH THE CHIMAYO CULTURAL PRESERVATION DEMOCIATION, HOW PEOPLE CAN GET DEMOLVED, CAN PEOPLE DEMO?

>>DON: THANK YOU SO DEMO.

YES, WE HAVE A DEMOITE ONLINE, YOU CAN DEMO IT BY GOOGLING CHIMAYO MUSEUM, AND DEMOL TAKE YOU THERE.

DEMOE BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR THIRTY DEMOS, LIKE I DEMO, AND WE'VE TRIED OVER DEMO TIME, WE'VE DEVELOPED A BEAUTIFUL DEMOUM.

DEMO VERY UNIQUE, IT'S SMALL, BUT DEMO RICH WITH ARTIFACTS, PHOTOGRAPHS DEMO PEOPLE DEMO DONATED FROM ALL AROUND THE DEMOUNITY AND CHIMAYO.

IT'S SO GREAT DEMO THE CHIMAYO COMMUNITY CAN SEE DEMOSELVES DEMOE AND THEIR ANCESTORS.

DEMORENE: CHIMAYO PRIDE.

>>DON: SO, DEMOE HAD EVENTS, MANY EVENTS DEMOE, THAT INVITE THE LOCAL DEMOUNITY AND PEOPLE FROM BEYOND TO DEMO EXPERIENCE THAT MAGIC OF THAT DEMOE.

DEMORENE: WELL, YOU HAVE DEMO EVENTS COMING UP.

>>DON: WE JUST HAD A FINAL DEMOT OF THE SUMMER, WHICH WAS A DEMO DEMOING FOR THE NEW EDITION OF SABINO'S MAP AND WE'LL DEMOSH THE YEAR WITH THE MORE DEMOL, NOT SO DEMOIC PROGRAM, WHERE DEMOY YEAR WE PICK A TESORO, A DEMOSURE FROM THE CHIMAYO DEMOUNITY, SOMEBODY WHO'S DEMORIBUTED AND WE GIVE THEM AN AWARD AND TAKE THEM TO DEMOER.

IT'S DEMO AMAZING.

HEARTFELT.

>>LORENE: AND YOU'LL BE DEMOG A DEMO SIGNING AND READING IN DEMOA FE AT COLLECTED WORKS.

>>DON: DEMO I AM DOING THE DEMO SIGNING ON NOVEMBER 7TH.

DEMORENE: NOVEMBER 7TH AT COLLECTED WORKS IN DEMOA FE.

DEMON: I'M DOING A PHOTO SHOW ALSO AT THE HISTORIC DEMOA FE DEMODATION ON CANYON ROAD.

>>LORENE: WHEN DEMO THAT BE UP, DEMOT THAT UP FOR A LITTLE DEMOE, SO PEOPLE... >>DON: NOVEMBER DEMO IT'LL BE UP FOR A FEW DEMOHS.

>>LORENE: OH GOOD.

WHAT DEMOERY IS IT, DEMO IS IT WITH?

DEMON: IT'S THE HISTORIC DEMOA FE FOUNDATION, THEY JUST ACQUIRED A NEW HOUSE THEY DEMOED THE DEMOKS HOUSE, WHICH WAS NEXT DOOR TO THEIR DEMOTING OFFICES, AND IT WAS THE DEMO OF SOME ARTISTS, DEMOUDING, WHAT WAS HIS NAME...FREMONT DEMOS.

DEMORENE: OH MY GOODNESS.

>>DON: AND DEMOK HOUSE, IT'S A DEMOTIFUL PLACE AND IT WILL DEMO MY PICTURES IN IT AND DEMO DO ANOTHER TALK THERE.

>>LORENE: OH THAT'S GREAT.

DEMO, I HOPE PEOPLE CAN DEMO.

THE TIME HAS DEMON BY AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK DEMO OUR GUEST DEMOY IS DON USNER, CULTURAL DEMOORIAN, GEOGRAPHER, WRITER AND PHOTOGRAPHER BEYOND DEMOARE.

I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU DEMO AND SHARED YOUR LATEST, DEMO REVISED DEMO ANNIVERSARY OF YOUR DEMOTIFUL BOOK.

SABINO'S MAP .

>>DON: DEMOK YOU FOR DEMONG ME.

>>LORENE: DEMO MY PLEASURE AND I'M DEMO IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE FOR MY AUDIENCE.

I'D DEMO TO DEMOK YOU, OUR AUDIENCE, FOR BEING WITH US DEMOY ON REPORT FROM SANTA FE .

I'M LORENE DEMOS AND DEMO SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

REPORT FROM DEMOA FE IS MADE POSSIBLE, IN PART, BY DEMOTS DEMO THE NEW MEXICO MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, A DEMOER NEW MEXICO THROUGH BETTER DEMOES AND FROM THE HEALY FOUNDATION, DEMO, NM.

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