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LET'S MEET THE PANELIST.

STARTING WITH THE NO LONGER VACATIONING WENDY WIESE WHO'S BACK.

SHE'S 50% OF THE WENDY SHOW ON KTRS.

BILL McCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

RAY HARTMANN FROM SUBSTACK.

ALVIN REID WITH THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.

MUCH DESERVED VACATION.

YOU FOLKS WERE TALKING ABOUT BOEING.

BOEING WOULD GET FOR HIS $1.8 BILLION EXPANSION IN ST.

LO THEY WENT UP BY $47 MILLION.

IT'S NOW $155 MILLION.

WE ALSO LEARNED THIS WEEK WHEN BOEING REPRESENTATIVINGS AND OTHERS WENT &g ST. LOUIS COUNTY COUNCIL, THE COMPANY WILL GET THE TAX BREAK EVEN IF IT REDUCES ITS 16,000-PERSON WORKFORCE BY 4000 PEOPLE.

GET THE TAX BREAKS.

YOU SAID AT THE TIME O PROGRAM, WE NEED THE NUMBERS.

WE NEED THE GUARANTEES HOW DO YOU F >> I FEEL VINDICATED.

CANDY MAN.

[ LAUGHTER ] I MEAN, I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.

THE SUPER SECRET AIRCRAFT PROGRAM.

TRACK OF.

THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY WAS WORKING WITH NUMBERS FROM 2021.

THERE'S JUST A WHOLE LOT OF UNCERTAINTY WHEN IT COMES TO THE FUTURE, THE FACT THAT NOW IT'S $155 MILLION AND YES, THEY CAN STILL GET THAT IF THEY CUT 4000 JOBS.

NO COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR LARGEST.

>> CANDY MAN IS GOING TO -- I STILL THINK THAT BOEING IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE REGION.

I NEVER THOUGHT ANHEUSER-BUSCH WILL BE SOLD, I NEVER THOUGHT THAT THE POST DISPATCH WILL BE SOLD.

COMPANIES GOING AWAY UNTIL THEY GO.

MY BIG QUESTION TO BOEING WILL BE, IS THIS ENOUGH?

>> THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID LAST TIME.

>> IT WASN'T.

>> WHILE SITTING IN YOUR CH AND THROWING THE TOPIC OUT THERE, WENDY, I GIVE YOU YOU SAID DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS.

GOOD TO BE TRUE, PROBABLY IS.

THIS ONE FOR SOME REASON I HAD NO LOGIC BEHIND IT.

THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THIS THAT'S MAKING THE HAIR ON MY NECK STAND UP.

WHEN THAT STORY WAS RELEASED, IT WASN'T THE TOP SECRET.

I KIND OF FELT LIKE I KNEW IT WAS SOMETHING.

WHEN THE S MONEY GOT INCREASED BUT I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH, THIS DEAL, YOU'LL STILL GET ALL THIS AND YOU WILL REDUCE, 4000 PEOPLE GO.

WHATEVER HAPPENED TO GUARANTEED 500 JOBS.

ON THE IF COME ON A DEAL LIKE THIS.

GENERATION.

TO DEVELOP SUCH A PLAN.

YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO G LOCKHEED COULD GET IT.

TH THAT'S MY POINT.

>> I SAID AT THE TIME TH WAS SORT YOU TALK TO A TEENAGER WHO'S TWIRLING THEIR HAIR AND THEY TONI SPECIFICS.

>> I THINK BASICALLY, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LONG VIEW OF THIS AND WHILE THESE THINGS ARE VERY DISTASTEFUL FOR THOSE WHO DON'T LIKE CORPORATE WELFARE.

THE BIG PICTURE YOU HAVE TO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO TO KEEP BOEING.

I TALKED TO FOLKS ME SINCE THEN, THERE ARE CIT I'M LOOKING INTO THIS, THAT FIGURED OUT WAYS TO DO IT WHERE YOU CAN STILL TAKE STEPS TO PROTECT SCHOOLS.

YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE JOBS, YOU HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE T THERE ARE WAYS -- ST. LOUIS SEEMS TO BE TOO EASY, TOO MUCH, NOT MAKING ENOUGH, NOT DRIVING HARD ENOUGH BARGAIN, PERHAPS.

THERE'S A MIDDLE GROUND YOU CAN'T DISARM ON SOME PRINCIPLE AND JUST LOSE A COMPAN BOEING OR THIS PROJECT FOR WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, WHATEVER IT IS.

I TH PROTECT SCHOOLS, YOU HAVE TO DO SOME THINGS THAT WITH DETAILS.

>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ANOTHER ISSUE.

HAD A PARTY FOR KIDS ON SATURDAY NIGHT.

SEVERAL ABOUT THE NEED FOR PLA KIDS TO GATHER IN ST. LOUIS AND WHERE THEY ARE NOT CAUSING DEMOTION.

NIGHT EVENT AT THE REC CENTERS.

ONE OF THEM ON CHEST NUT AND MARKET IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.

EVERYTHING WENT FINE.

AT 11:00, THE KIDS.NET GO HOME.

THEY HUNG OUT DOWNTOWN CAUSING COMMOTION AND DANCING ON CARS UNTIL 3:00 IN THE MORNING.

WAS IT WISE TO HAVE -- GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES IN HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS YEAR, WAS IT WISE TO HAVE AN EVENT FOR YOUTH IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS?

>> NO.

ARE YOU REALLY SURPRISED?

CAN'T BLAME THE KIDS.

WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT THEY WEREN'T ALL GOING TO GO HOME.

OF COURSE YOU WANT TO DO THINGS.

I'VE BEEN ADVOCA WE NEED MORE REC CENTER AND THINGS FOR KIDS.

IF YOU DO THAT KIND OF PARTY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE KIDS WILL BE KIDS.

KNOW THE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS WERE UNHAPPY, THEY SEEM MOST CITIES TODAY UNDERSTAND YOU GOT TO BUILD FROM THE DOWNTOWN RESIDENCE, BE THEY CONDO OWNERS, APARTMENT OR SMALL BUSINESSES, YOU GOT TO BUILD FROM YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND THEY ARE PIVOTAL.

HOMELESSNESS OR WHATEVER ELSE, YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND THEM FIRST.

GOVERNMENT AND THE BIG BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN JUST TREAT THEM LIKE THEY'RE >> AT 11:00, THE PARTY IS OVER.

YOU'RE NOT ROAMING THE STREETS, YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS.

THERE'S NO KIDS YOU'RE GOING TO ACT IRRESPONSIBLING.

>> IT'S AMERICA.

>> AMERICA WHAT?

AT 11:00, I'M CL FOUR-BLOCK RADIUS OF THIS PLACE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE ARCH.

YOU'RE NOT DANCING ON CARS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR EVERYBODY TO SAY, OKAY, FUN TIME OKAY.

GO HOME!

>> THE PROBLEM -- WAS A TERRIBLE IDEA TO INVIT BUNCH OF KIDS DOWNTOWN AND TELL THEM TO GO HOME AT 11:00.

THE PROBLEM IS, WHAT A GOING TO DO?

IT'S NOT OFFICER FRIENDLY ANYMORE.

GO.

IF THE >> OKAY, IF YOU WANT TO BE BELLIGERENT, YOU GET ARRESTED.

YOU GET USHERED OUT OF THE STREET.

OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO INVITE DOWNTOWN AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER 11:00, WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

TAKE CONTROL OF THE SITUATION.

>> I SAY JUST DON'T INVITE THE KIDS.

>> YOU NEED A PLACE FOR THE KIDS.

IF THE -- HOW ABOUT THE MUNY PARKING LOT.

>> THEY WOULD >> IT WON'T BE NEAR RESIDENCE.

>> THERE'S DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRYING TO DO THINGS -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] OF THE BAD PRESS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN DOWNTOWN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

HAVE THE MANIACS CONVENTION AT THE SITE OF THE FIRE, GREAT FIRE OF CHICAGO.

YO CAUSED SO MUCH TROUBLE INVITED BACK DOWNTOWN FOR A PARTY.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

>> CHARLIE, I WANT TO DISAGREE WITH ALVIN.

I DON'T NECESSARILY CHARAC THESE KIDS CAUSING SO MUCH TROUBLE.

>> IF YOU TOOK A SURVEY OF DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS AND DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A BIG PARTY ON SATURDAY NIGHT FOR KIDS, I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE -- >> I'M SAY, I'M AG THIS PARTY.

I CHARACTERIZE THESE KIDS HAVING CAUSED TROUBLE.

>&g >> ANY GROUP OF TEENS - -- PEOPLE IN THEIR TEENS AND EARLY 20s HAVE A RIGHT AS AMERICANS TO WALK DOWN THE STREET.

YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, YOU'RE OUT OF HERE.

>> UNLESS THER >> THERE ISN'T.

>> IN ALVIN REID, ST. LOUIS HILLS DID SOMETHING THAT HOLLY HILLS LAST YEAR.

CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

ON TUESD INCREASE THEIR PROPERTY TAXES BY $180 TO $200 TO PAY FOR SURVEILLANCE C TO MONITOR IT.

IT'S TO INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY AND REDUCE CRIME.

SOME I QUESTIONED WHETHER THAT'S ETHICAL OR FAIR IF AFT POORER NEIGHBORHOODS CAN'T TAXES FOR SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.

>> DIFFERENT ARGUMENT.

BEING POOR MAY NOT YOU GET TO A SITUATION IN LI MAY NOT BE -- IF A NEIGHBORHOOD DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO SHELL OUT IT TO HAVE EXTRA SECURITY, I HAVE TO APPLAUD THAT.

THERE'S SIMPLY NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

>> I ADORE SARAH FENSKY.

I WOULD RATHER SEE THIS THAN FOR SALE SIGNS AND ANY FURTHER EROSION IN TERMS OF THE RESIDENTIAL LIFE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SHE WROTE A NICE STORY IN THE "RIVERFRONT TIMES."

SHE DID NOT QUESTION THE ETHICS.

SHE SAID YOU CAN'T BLAME ST. LOUIS HILLS.

WHAT SARAH POINTED OUT -- >> THE ETHICS OF RICH NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS A POOR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SHE'S RIGHT.

TH IN OTHER WORDS, NO ONE -- ST. LOUIS HILLS PASSED PROP S. NO ONE CRITICIZING ST. LOUIS HILLS.

ONE, YOU CAN BE UNDERSTANDING OF THE FACT THAT NE TO HAVE EXTRA PROTECTION.

ALSO POINT OUT, THERE'S TWO TIERS HERE IN THE CITY AND THA WE NEED TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WE HAVE THIS TERRIBLE UNJUST SYSTEM.

>> YOU TO COVER THE ENTIRE CITY THE W IT OUGHT TO BE COVERED.

LIKE ALVIN SAYS, IF THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CAN AFFORD EXTRA POLICE ON THE SIDE, GOOD FOR THEM.

>> G >> THE ARGUMENT IS THE FOLLOW-UP.

LOUIS NOW LIKE NEVER BEFORE.

THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF MONEY TO PUT UP SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.

THERE'S THE LACK OF WILL.

WHAT YOU DO MS. FENSKY MISSED THE KROENKE MONEY IS $250 MILLION.

$500 MILLION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

YEAR.

MAYOR OR OTHERS TO PUT UP THESE CAMERAS ELSEWHERE, THEY COULD DO IT.

>> ALSO, LET'S SAY I WAS LUCKY YOU HAVE IN TO $1.5 BILLION POWER BALL.

AF GOING TO HIRE EXTRA SECURITY FOR NORTH ST. LOUIS.

HOLLY HILLS WOULDN'T PROTEST.

ST. LOUIS HILLS WOULDN'T PROTEST.

YOU KNOW WHO WILL PROTES ST. LOUIS.

THEY'L THEM LET LOOSE ON US.

WE NEED THIS AND LAST THIN NEED IS THE POLICE.

I WILL NOT BE MAD AT ANYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY TOOK STEPS TO WHAT THEY >> SARAH FENSKY -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> MOVE ON TO BILL.

THIS WEEK, I WEIRD ON AUGUST 4th LAST FRIDAY, ANHEUSER-BUSCH GAVE $30,000 TO THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN AFTE DECIDED THEY WOULD BOYCOTT BUD LIGHT, CAUSING 10% REDUCTION IN THE SECOND QUARTER IN REVENUES.

HUNDRED OF LAYOFFS AND THEY GIVE THE ENEMY $30,000.

WHAT'S GOING >> BUSINESS AS USUAL.

BUSH BEER PEOPLE DON'T CONSIDER CONSERVATIVES THE ENEMY.

$30,000 ISN'T A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IN THIS GAME.

OF COURSE THEY WILL GIVE MONEY TO THE REPUBLICAN.

THEY WHATEVER INFLUENCER NAME WAS, WE'RE NOT MONEY.

>> THEY ALWAYS HAV I THINK ANHEUSER-BUSCH, AB INBEV, YOU WOULDN'T NEED MUCH TO GET THEIR BOARD TO ADMIT THAT WAS AN IMPLOSION FROM INSIDE THEIR MARKETING DEPARTMENT.

THEY GROSSLY OVER ESTIMATE REACTION OF THE BEER DRINKING PUBLIC TO A NUMB IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS.

BOTH SIDES AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE.

>> RIGHT.

VERY FEW PROTEST HAVE THE IMPACT THAT THIS ONE.

WASN'T JUST -- THERE'S A LOT OF ADS THAT PROMOTE THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.

NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING.

THIS ONE TOU ISSUE.

REPUBLICAN ISSUE AS MUCH AS ACE A RIGHT WING MAGA ISSU [ LAUGHTER ] >&g >> UNFORTUNATELY.

MY POINT IS, THAT THE PERSECUTION THE HATRED OF TRANS PEOPLE INTERSECTED, IN MY OPINION, WITH THIS AD AND THE POLITICIAN.

&g -- >> IT'S NOT HATRED.

THERE TH FOR TRANS PEOPLE.

>> I WOULD SAY THAT, AB GAVE MONEY TO THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION.

COUNTY EXECUTIVE WILL TURN D ANYTHING THAT AB DOES FOR THEM.

EVEN THOUGH WE GOT PROBLEM WITH GUNS.

AB BECAUSE YOU'RE SUPPORTING THE NRA.

IT KEEPS IT IN THE NEWS JUST TAKE IT OUT.

HERE, TAKE YOUR $30,000.

>> I KNOW TH HATRED, THERE'S YOUR BUMPER STICKER.

ATTENTION WHEN YOUR MARKETING CHIEF SAYS WE DON' SEGMENT OF THE MARKET ANYMORE.

DRINKING BUD LIGHT.

PEACE OUT.

>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE PRESIDENT OF EXPLORE ST. LOUIS, SAID THAT WITH 28 EVENTS SCHEDULED IN 2024 FOR THE DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS CONVENTION CENT NUMBER THIS YEAR.

I LO CONVENTION CITIES LIKE LAS VEGAS ARE GOING TO HAVE NEXT YEAR, THAT ARE BETTER THAN 2019 BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

DALLAS DOING WELL TOO.

WHY IS ST. LOUIS NOT DOING WELL ATTRACTING EVENTS NEXT YEAR?

>> ACCORDING TO KITTY RADCLIFFE SPEAKING AT THE MONTHLY MEETING, SHE WENT DOWN THE LIST OF $200 MILLION EXPANSION THAT HAS BEEN DELAYED, FOOT TRAFFIC FROM BUSINESSES THAT'S MOVING OUT TO THE SUBURBS OBVIOUSLY THE PANDEMIC, WHICH LOOMS LARGE.

THESE LARGE GROUPS MAKE THEIR PLANS WELL IN ADVANCE.

WAY DOWN THE LIST OF POSSIBLE REASONS WHY THINGS ARE SO AWKWARD AS SHE SAID WAS THE FACT THAT THE NATIONAL HEADLINE SPLASH WAS THE GIRL WHO LOST BOTH OF HER LEGS WHILE SHE WAS VISITING ST. LOUIS.

I THIN THIS TABLE IS IN AGREEMENT, CRIME WILL BE A PROBLEM FOR US FOR A WHILE.

IT'S IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AGGRESSIVELY.

&g I HAPPEN TO BE A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH THAT INDUSTRY.

I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT EXPLORE ST. LOUIS, I THINK THEY DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB GIVEN WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

I'M AMAZED WE GET ANY SHOWS.

I DIDN'T FOLLOW CLOSELY WHAT SHE SAID.

WHICH IS JUST OVERWHELMING.

THE FACT THAT IT GET DIRECT FIGHTS INTO LAMBERT, WHICH IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR CONVENTIONS.

I THINK IT'S HARD TO MEASURE -- NONE OF US HAD THE DATA SAYING WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

IT'S AMAZING WE GET AN CONVENTIONS NOW.

I THINK IT AHEAD.

>> THAT'S ATTITUDE FAILURE.

I'M SURPRI CONVENTIONS.

THE OBJECT IS TO F THERE'S FIVE TEAMS IN THE DIVISION, WE FINISH FOURTH.

GOOD JOB, NO WAY.

WE NEED FRESH FACES AND FRESH IDEAS.

POLICE CHIEF THAT CAME FROM COME PLAY ELSE.

WE NEED TO SCRATCH.

INDIVIDUAL.

IS FRESHER, DOESN'T CARE WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE, THEY WERE CONFERENCE AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR.

>> WE HAVE MORE NONSTOPS TO ST. LOUIS THAN KANSAS CITY DOES.

I DON'T KNOW WHA CONVENTION BUSINESS IS NOW.

I DO THINK KANSAS CITY IS ON A ROLL.

PLACE A CONVENTIONER WILL WANT TO GO TO.

THAT'S NOT HAPPENING IN ST. LOUIS TOO MUCH.

>> I MISST ALVIN IS RIGHT ABOUT THA I OVER STATED.

I WILL SAY THAT >> MISCHARACTERIZED YOURSELF.

>> I T I DON'T THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT THE OBSTACLES WE HAVE AND JUST ASSUME THAT WE CAN OVERCOME IT.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE DIFFICULT.

>> TWO MINUTE WARNING ON FLOOR.

BILL SERVICE IS NOT GETTING BETTER AND MARIA REPORTING THAT ONE FAMILY FROM CAPE GIRARDEAU WAS ON HOLE FOR 30 MINUTES WHEN THEIR SON HAD A SEIZURE.

THE DISPATCH ADVENTURE SAID MAY BE YOU SHOULDN'T COME TO ST. LOUIS.

&g THE COVID MONEY THE MAYOR TALKING ABOUT HAVING PEOPL DOOR-TO-DOOR TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SPEND THIS MONEY.

WE HAVE A 911 SY DOESN'T WORK AT ALL.

, PEOPLE CALL AND NO ONE ANSWERS.

ALL THIS DOUGH WE WE O WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS THING FIXED.

MAYOR JONES OR C CHIEF TRACY, TO ME, THE SECOND PRIORITY IN THIS TOWN SHOULD BE A DISTANT SECOND.

ADMINISTRATION AND ANYONE WHO'S PART OF TH EMERGENCY.

THIS IS AN EMERGENCY.

NO PUN INTENDED.

THIS IS AN EMERGENCY.

WHETHER IT'S THE -- WHATEVER IT IS, WE HAVE TO DO IT YESTERDAY.

IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE.

>> I KNOW SCHOOLS ARE TH ERE AND OBVIOUSLY, CRIME BUT, IF YOU WERE -- I WOULDN'T LIVE IN THE SAFEST PART IN ST. LOUIS IN THE PENTHOUSE IF IT WILL TAKE A HALF AN HOUR.

>> I REM NOW.

WIFE, ANYTHING HAPPENS CALL DOMINO'S.

IN 30 MINUTE.

LATE NIGHT PARTIES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.

WHAT CAN GO WRONG WI THAT'S FROM BILL OF WELDON SPRING, MISSOURI.

WI REQUIRING SCHOOLS INSTRUCTION ON NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY, STATES ALREADY HAVE SIGNIFICANT INPUT INTO CURRICULUM R AND SCHOOL SCHEDULES ALL BACKED UP BY CONTROL OF FUNDING.

FOR MARY OF ST. PETERS, AS AN 80-YEAR-OLD VIEWER, I FIND YOUR OPPOSITION TO JOE BIDEN CAMPAIGN SOLELY ON THE BA FOR CLEAR EXAMPLE OF AGEISM.

I WISH ALL YOU YOUNGSTERS IS CABLE OF JOE BIDEN IF AND WHEN YOU REACH HIS AGE.

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