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UNOFFICIAL SUMMER OF 2023.

KIND OF.

LABOR DAY, AND ALVIN'S BIRTHDAY, THAT'S FOR SURE.

LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS A DIVE INT WENDY WIESE, COHOST OF THE JENNIFER AND WENDY SHOW ON BIG 550 KTRS.

BILL McCLELLAN, COLUMNIST WITH STL TODAY.COM AND THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

TIMES AND DONNYBROOK ALONG WITH BILL AND OF COURSE YOU SEE COLUMN ON SUB STACK.

AND MR. ALVIN REID FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, WHERE HE'S A SPORTS COLUMNIST AND NEWS EDITOR.

WENDY, THIS WEEK, THERE FUNDRAISER SCHEDULED FOR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE VIVEK IT WAS ANNOUNCED BY THE RESTAURANT BECAUSE HIS VIE DIDN'T NECESSARILY ALIGN W THEIRS, AND THEY WANT A BALA OF OPINION WITH THE PEOPLE WHO HAD PARTIES, THAT WAS TH INITIAL REASON T CANCEL HIS FUNDRAISER, WHERE TICKETS WENT BETWEEN 500 AND $3300.

WELL WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS A PRIVATE EVENT AND IT SEEMED LIKE THI WE DIDN'T WANT OUR MONIKER OR OUR LOGO IN ANY OF THE LITERATURE HE WAS SENDING OUT.

ONCE IT WAS BOOKED, SHOULD HIS FUNDRAISER HAVE BEEN CANCELLED?

>> ONCE IT WAS BOOKED, I THINK HIS FUNDRAISER SHOULD HAVE BEEN CANCELLED.

IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, THEN THAT'S ON YOU.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

I MEAN, NOTHING POLI IT -- I MEAN NOTHING POLITICAL BY IT.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND OWNER, THE PROPRIETOR OF ANY ESTABLISHMENT SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, NO SERVICE, THAT KIND OF THING.

BUT THIS IS JUST -- TO ME THIS SMACKS OF CENSORSHIP.

THAT PART OF IT MAKES ME REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE.

ANYMORE, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO BE WRONG IN THIS COUNTR ICE OF OTHER PEOPLE -- IN THE EYES OF OTHER PEOPLE.

THES POINT HAVE ADVOCATED ANYTHING THAT IS HEINOUS OR, YOU KNOW, SO TO ME -- > I THINK THAT A RESTAURANT HAS TO SERVE ANYBODY.

I MEAN, YO I'M NOT GOING TO SERVE YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE BLACK OR I'M NOT GOING TO SERVE Y YOU'RE JEWISH, BUT I T OWNERS OF A RESTAURANT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WELL, WE DON'T WA TO HAVE THIS OFFICIAL FUNCTION WITH SOMEBODY, AND MAYBE SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE DILIGENCE, BUT MOST OF US -- OR AT LEAST PEOPLE LIKE ME HADN'T REALLY BEE AND I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM UNTIL HE STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW 9/11, YOU KNOW, LET'S SEE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN THAT WAS AN MANY AGENTS ARE ON A PLANE AND GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX, AND STUFF -- AND I CAN SEE WHERE A PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNER COULD SAY, HEY, I DON'T WANT M YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME IN AND HAVE DINNER, BUT I DON FUNDRAISER.

FUNDRAISER.

ALREADY BOOKED THIS EVENT.

I'M ONE WHO YOUR CASE.

LEAST PROBABLY FAMILIAR WI RESTAURANT WANT TO HAVE TH EVENT HERE.

I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE PLACE SANDBLASTED AFTER THIS IS OVER, BUT IF I -- YOU ARE WELCOME IN MY RESTAURANT AS LONG AS YOU DON'T TE THIS PERSON OR DON'T SUPPO THAT PERSON, BUT YOU'RE NOT WELCOME IF YOU'RE OUTWARDLY SAYING I SUPPORT THIS PE JUST OPEN YOUR DOORS TO YOUR RESTAURANT.

HAVE AN EVENT HERE.

I HAVE A N I WILL ALL BECAUSE THAT'S THE AMERICAN OKAY?

I DON'T BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY STAND FOR.

BUT I AM NOT THAT THEY CANNOT HOLD THIS EVENT AT MY RESTAURANT, AND BY THE WAY, IF IT'S 500 TO 3300 DOLLARS FOR A TICKET, YOU JUST TOOK MOUNT OF YOUR EMPLOYEES -- YOU JUST TOOK MONEY OUT OF YOUR EMPLOYEES' POCKETS BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU THE TIPS WIL PRETTY G THE RESTAURANT OLIVE OAK IS A TERRIFIC RESTAURANT.

THING.

THERE IS NO ISSUE THERE.

THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC CAMPUS WHERE THE REPUBLICANS WANT T CAMPUS AND I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THEM SPEAKING O IF THIS WAS BECAUSE -- RESTAURANT HAVEN'T SAID SO -- IF IT'S BECAUSE OF RESTAURANT WERE UNHAPPY THAT THEIR FAVORITE RESTAURANT IS HOSTING A FUNDRA IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE BOYCOTT OF BUD LIGHT.

I NEVER SAID PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BOYCOTT >> THAT'S NOT THE THE QUESTION IS -- >> YES >> LEGAL RIGHTS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CIVIL DISCOURSE LIKE THIS PROGRAM WHERE PEOPLE WITH OPPOSING VIEWS GET TOGETHER AND THEY DISCUSS ISSUES.

NOT GOING TO BAKE A CAKE FOR YOUR WEDDING BECAUSE Y AND I DON'T LIKE YOUR BEHAVIOR?

OR ST. JOSEPH ACADEMY SAID TO CLAIR McCASKILL YOU CAN'T SPEAK AT YOUR DAUGHTER'S GRADUATION BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE YOUR DAUGHTER'S VIEWS -- BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE YOUR VIEW >> I T IF A PRIVATE HIGH SC DON'T LIKE YOUR VI DON'T WANT YOU TO SPEAK HERE - >> WE END UP -- I'M NOT SAYING LEGALLY.

ANYTHING IT WANTS -- >> THIS IS A GUY -- [SPEAKING OVER EACH OTHER] >> ALV CIVIL DISCOURSE -- >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK THE ARGUMENT IS THAT REGARDLESS, OKAY, IF IT'S A PUBLIC RESTAURANT, ALL ARE WELCOME IN THIS PUBLIC THAT THE PROPER WAY TO GO ABOUT DOING YOUR BUSINESS IS JUST TO SAY IT UP FRONT, THIS IS NOT MY BELIEF.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M GOING TO TELL THESE PEOPLE THEY CAN'T -- HE WAS CONSERVATIVE, BUT HE HA JAY NIXON AND OTHERS HAD FUND-RAISERS THERE.

>> WE DIDN'T HAVE TO USED TO DO THAT.

REPUBLICAN DEBATE STAGE AND SAID HE WAS THE ONLY ONE NOT BOUGHT AND PAID F >> HE YOU SAID CRAZY THINGS SHOW.

>> THEY DIDN'T BAN HIM.

THEY JUST DON'T WA FUNDRAISER.

>> THAT'S NOT BANNING.

THEY DON'T WISH TO HOST HIS FUNDRAISER.

> CANCELLATION.

CANCEL CULTURE?

>> I DIDN'T LIKE IT.

>> AFTER ALL ANHEUS DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY, T BOYCOTT THAT PRODUCT BECAUSE ONE GUY TALKED ABOUT IT IN VIDEO.

>> THAT IS C I DIDN'T LIK >> IT IS LEGAL.

I'M NOT DE >> THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN DO.

I DO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SERVING SOMEBODY A FUNDRAISER AND HAVING THEM PUT THEIR NAME -- AND THE THING THAT REALLY TIPPED IT I THINK T WANTED TO PUBLICLY ADVERTI THAT IT WAS AT OLIVE AND OAK, AND I MENTION THAT BEC THINK EVERYBODY OUGHT TO EAT THERE.

>> T PUBLICITY.

>> I THINK VIVEK RAMASWAMY HAS GOTTEN MORE DONATIONS.

>> I D POSSIBLE.

ST. CHARLES CITY, NOT COUNTY IS ASKING THE RESIDENTS TEXTS AND E-MAILS WITH EXPIRED TEMPORARY TAGS AND EXPIRED LICENSE PLATES.

OF EVER AROUND NOW BY NOT REGISTERING THEIR CARS AND AVOIDING SALES AND PROPERTY TAXES AND INSURANCE AND WHATNOT.

WHAT DO YOU >> I [LAUGHTER] > COMING IN ON EACH OTHER.

[LAUGHTER] AND TAKING A QUICK PICTURE OF SOMEBODY'S EXPIRED PLATES.

I WILL GUARANTEE BE FIGHT WHAT ARE YOU DOING OUT JUST TAKING A PICTUR >> YOU THING?

ABOUT THIS?

>> IT SOUNDS EAST BERLIN IN 1955.

I LIKE THE WHO MAYBE IT WILL WORK.

>> FOR ALL DON'T LIKE IT.

[LAUGHTER] TONGUE IN CHEEK HERE, BUT I DO THINK IT COULD LEAD TO SOME VIGILANTE KIND OF OCCURRENCES AND THAT'S THE LAST THING WE NEED.

PARTS OF THE CITY, AND IT IS PEOPLE ARE AFRAI THEY THINK THERE WILL BE RETRIBUTION AGAINST THEM.

ALL PEOPLE WOULD COME FORWARD WHEN HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN LIKE THAT.

NEIGHBOR.

>> YOU'RE SHOW >> I ACTUALLY -- I REALLY -- I GOT TO ECHO MY FELLOW FOUNDING FATHER IN THAT HE'S MADE SUCH A CLEAR CUT AND ARTICULATE CASE AGAINST DOING THIS.

[LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADD TO THE CASE AGAINST DOING THIS, WHICH I SHARE WITH WENDY AND ALVIN, I THINK YOU SAID IT BETTER THA ANY OF US COULD.

>> WE'VE ALL SEEN THE TAGS T ARE MADE OUT OF CONSTRUCTION PAPER WITH CRAYONS.

I MEAN, IT IS HIGHLY OFFENSIVE I JUST DON'T KNOW IF DROPPING DIMES IS THE RIGHT APPROACH.

>> I THINK WE REAL MOVE AWAY FROM TURNING EACH OTHER IN, JUST AS A GENERAL -- >> YOU CAN'T SHAME PEOPLE INTO -- IF AND POLICE AND HOMELESS SHELTERS, THEN THESE P TO P >> OKAY.

NOW, IF BIG BROTHER, SOME KIND OF FIGURED OUT A WAY TO HAVE A LICENSE PLATE READER ON EVERY BLOCK, I WOULDN'T HAVE WITH IT.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST -- RIG YOU KNOW -- LIKE THAT FROM THE NEWS.

AS IT TU VIEW NEWS DEMOCRAT WHICH PUBLISHES A DAYS A WEEK NOW IS GOING TO YOU HAVE PUBLISHED QUITE A F PUBLICATIONS IN YOUR CAREER WH >> IT IS SAD.

A GUY ON DONNYBROOK, I DON'T KNOW HOW HE'S BELLEVILLE DEMOCRAT IS A CLASSIC SLICE OF AMERICANA.

IT IS REALLY TRAGIC HAPPENING.

I MEAN, MEANING, I WOULD BE SURPRISED -- AND I'M NOT SAYING IT IN ANY WAY SNARKY, THAT IF THE POST DISPATCH IS COMING OUT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK THIS T YEAR, IT IS JUST THE WAY OF THE FUTURE, AND THE GENERATIONS THAT ARE -- >> THE NEW THE ONES THAT ARE NO LONGER GOING TO BE WITH U YOU KNOW, IT IS A GOING TO CONTINUE IN TERMS OF READING.

BUT IT'S REAL, AND TO THE EXTENT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DO WELL ONLINE.

NEWSPAPERS COMMUNITIES, WHETHER IT'S THE BELLEVILLE NEWS DEMOCRAT OR THE POST OR THE RFT OR W I HOPE THEY DON'T CUT THEIR STAFF AND STUFF, BUT -- >> EVERY TIME THIS HAS TH AT I'V NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON PAPERS, YOU KNOW, THE [INAUDIBLE], THEY SAY WELL, YO KNOW, WE'RE CUTT DAYS A WEEK, BUT WE'RE G HAVE A ROBUST ONLINE PRESE AND THEN THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS CUT STAFF.

YOU KN AN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE THE -- AND PEOPLE THE BELLEVILLE NEWS DEMOCRAT HAS ANYMORE.

I RE NEWSPAPER, AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY COVERED BELLEVILLE AND THE EAST SIDE WELL.

I IT'S TERRIBLE NEWS.

>> THE TRA PAINFUL AS THE TWO OF US HAVE MADE CAREERS IN A.M. RADIO, YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T MAYBE LOOK THE WAY IT USED TO FINDING ITS WAY.

THE NEWS NEWSPAPERS WILL ALWAYS BE HERE.

I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE CONTINUING DOWN THAT SORT OF TRANSITIONAL PATH, AND IT IS -- IT'S SAD, BUT IT IS INEVITABLE.

>> YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK YOU ARE ALL RIGHT.

I WOULD LO YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PAGES THE BELLEVILLE NEWS DEMOCRAT WOULD BE.

OR WHATEVER.

HOW THIN WAS THE NEW THAT DAY?

ANOTHER COUPLE MORE AND THEN HAVE LIKE THREE DAYS INSTEAD OF TWO?

LIKE THAT.

DOING THAT.

&g THAT DON'T WORK, AND FOR THE LONGEST TIME, YO ALMOST EVERY DAILY NEWSPAPER I THINK INCLUD KNOW, RELIED HEAVILY ON AND STILL DOES ON SUNDAY AS ITS REVENUE GENERATOR.

YOU HAVE TO -- FOR PEOPLE -- >> CLASSIFIED.

>> THAT ECON GONE -- ALVIN REID, I WANT TO AS SPEAKING OF READING MATERIAL, TH THE STATE THAT INMATES WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO RECEIVE BOOKS AND PAMPHLETS AND MAGAZINES FROM FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

THEY THEMSELVES FROM AMAZON, FOR EXAMPLE, OR BARNES & NO AND THEIR FAMILY AND FRIENDS CAN SEND THEM MONEY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THESE INSTITUTIONS DO THAT BUT BECAUSE OF DRUGS A CONTRABAND WHICH SOMEHOW COME INTO THE PRISONS THE BOOKS FROM AUNT MOLLY CANNOT BE SENT ANYMORE.

&g BAD A PROBLEM THAT IS, BUT I C UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM.

ONE.

BUT I GUESS I'M AMERICAISH NOW, 51, 49.

I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEND BOOKS AND MA PRISON.

>> IT IS ABOUT EDU IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT EDUCATION.

IMPROVING YOURSELF, EVEN WHILE INCARCERATED, I DON'T LI AT A >> I AGR ANYWAY, YOU HAVE DOGS THAT CAN SNIFF OUT DRUGS AND MA AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME STUFF GETS THROUGH, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ABOUT REHABILITATI >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING -- >> AND READING A BOOK IS TH ING TO DO.

> GOING TO SAY IS TH MIKE WOLF WHO ALWAYS SAYS 99 PERCENT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME OUT SOCIETY.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE TO HAVE A SENSE -- YOU KNOW, YES, THERE'S A COMPONENT OF PRISON.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S PUNISHMENT AND NOBODY IS SUGGESTING IT BE A LAVISH ENVIRONMENT.

HOWEVER, PARTICULARLY, YOUR POINT ABOUT EDUCATION, W TO -- THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPRISONED, THE VERY LARGE MAJORITY ARE GOING TO BE US, AND WE NEED TO NOT -- >> AFTER WHAT HAPPENED AT THE JUSTICE CENTER AND THE 73-YEAR-OLD GUARD, AND IT'S JUST -- I THINK IT IS A SCARY TIME TO FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO GUARANTEE THE SECURITY OF THE EMPLOYEES, AND IF YOU CAN GET THESE DRUGS -- THESE ILLICIT DRUGS INTO THE HANDS OF PRISONERS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S -- THAT'S -- EVERYBODY.

FAMILY AND FRIENDS &g >> THE LIBRARY -- >> T HAVE A B >> I THOUGHT YOU WERE SA Y THERE ARE DOGS THAT CAN READ.

&g [LAUGHTER] WHAT ABOUT THE CITY OF ST.

LO I MEAN, THE YEAR IS NOT THIS IS A PARTIAL SNAPSHOT OF 2023.

BUT AT THIS PO THE END OF AUGUST, THERE HAVE BEEN 106 HOMICIDES, WH BETTER THAN LAST YEAR'S PACE WHEN WE ENDE LET'S SEE 200 EXACTLY.

ABOUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE WERE AROUND 120, 130.

SO IT'S BETTER THAN WE WER YEAR.

>> W THE LATEST WAS 106 AS COMPARED TO 136.

22 PERCENT AND A LIT OF A DROP.

OKAY, THERE'S A LO BOTH THE POLICE CHIEF AND, YOU KNOW, AND THE MAYOR MADE STATEMENTS ON IT.

INTO IT.

WE HAD ST. LOUIS PROFESSOR I GUESS CRIMINOLOGIST, AND HE WAS ON -- HE'S IN THE ORGANIZATION THAT FILED THIS LATEST REPO OF THE STATISTICS.

HE SAID THE ECONOMY HAS SO HE SAID WE'VE COME OUT OF COVID WHICH WAS A BAD TIME BECAUSE EVERYBODY CO THERE ARE A LOT OF I THINK THIS IS GOOD NEWS.

I THINK IT IS PROO THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, TH ENTRY PROGRAMS INTO NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WORKIN CROSS MY FINGERS.

I MEAN, IT I MONTHS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE WHAT WE CALL LONG HOT SUMMERS.

I MEAN, PEOPLE KILL EACH OTHER 365 DAYS A YEAR NOW THROUGHOUT AMERICA.

I THINK IT IS, YOU KNOW, WOR NOTING ACHIEVEMENT WITH FOUR MONTHS LEFT TO GO >> I AGREE THAT WE -- THERE'S A LOT OF CONFIRMATION BIAS AS WE TALK ABOUT WITH SURV PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A CERTAIN PERCEPTION, AND EV THE PERCEPTIONS RIGHT NO NEGATIVE IN ST. LOUIS.

AND SO IT KIND OF SOMETIMES CROSSES PEOPLE'S WIRES TO SEE GOOD NEWS BECAUSE THEY ARE SO CONVINCED IT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE IT COULD BE -- I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE SPECIFIC STATI OF MURDERS WAS GREAT OVERRATED, AND I STILL DO, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO LEAST HOPE -- IF YOU ARE GOING TO HOPE FOR GOOD NEWS AN LEAST ACCEPT -- >> CELEBRATE IT MAYBE A LITTLE CAUTIOUSLY.

>> B GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTIO > ABOUT BAILEY'S RAN MANY RESTAURANTS OWNED AND KARA BAILEY DECIDING TO CLOSE ITS DOWNTOWN DOORS?

I GUESS -- I THINK AT THE END OF THIS MONTH IF I'M NO BUT IT HAD BEEN THERE FOR 12 YEARS.

DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS SAID IT IS TOUGH TO FIND A PLACE TO H LUNCH THESE DAYS EVEN THERE ARE FIVE RESTAURANTS A UNION STATION FOR EXAMPLE.

BALLPARK V BUT, YOU KNOW, TONY'S HAS >> PANERA.

>> YEAH.

IT IS SAD, WHILE WE ARE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THAT LITTLE SLIVER OF GOOD IT COMES T STILL CLEARLY HAVE A LOT TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO T PERCEPTION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING DOWNTOWN AND THE FACT THAT SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE PRETTY DRAMATICALLY M. I'M NOT SURE THAT AN WHAT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, A MORE LONG STANDING POSITIVE TRAJECTORY WHEN CRIME NUMBERS.

>> I WAS DOWNTOW DAYS ABOUT A WEEK AGO, YOU KNOW, GOING TO A TRIAL.

AND WHEN THEY BROKE FO WENT OUT TO GET SOMETHING EAT AND STARTED WALKING AROUND DOWNTOWN COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING.

>> Y WH AT DOES A CONVENTIONER DO?

I HAPPENED UPON BAILEY'S RANGE.

IT'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.

I NEVER USED TO GO THERE.

I WAS ALWAYS A CHARLIE GINO'S PERSON.

IT WAS A BURGER.

IT W SOMETHING.

GONE.

HAVE A CONVENTION BUSINESS WIT PEOPLE WANDERING AROUND LOOKING FOR A >> BUT I DON'T THI NECESSARILY DRAW COMPLETE LINK BETWEEN YOU GOING SHUTTING DOWN.

[LAUGHTE IF THAT'S WHAT -- THOSE THAT WOULD SAY THAT ARE VERY -- I REMEMBER PLACES AND EVEN AS A KID GOING UP AND AVENUE IN THE, YOU KNOW -- THERE WERE SO MANY PLACES.

YOU WOULD LIKE TO THINK IT IS SUPPLY THERE ARE SO WASHINGTON AVENUE, WEST -- THERE ARE SOME NICE PL STI RIGHT, IT IS ONE OF THOSE THIN THAT SUPPLY AND DEMAND OUGHT TO PROVIDE A PLACE.

I GUESS THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WA FIX THAT.

A LOT OF YEARS HAVE I WILL CALL IT INDIRECT LINK.

I STILL THINK THERE'S A BA VILLAGE IMPACT.

THERE WAS A TIME WHERE YOU MORE AS AN INDIVID ENTREPRENEUR TRYING TO RUN RESTAURANT THAN IT DID THERE.

NOW, WHATEVER YOUR LEASE PRICE WAS MIGHT HAVE BEEN LESS THAN BALLPARK VILLAGE.

THEY WER HE DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS, WE'LL FIND A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, GET YOU A TAX SUBSIDY.

RESTAURANT AND MAYBE STAY OPEN FOR A YE TWO, IN ALL SINCERITY, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, YOU WILL THIN JOKING AROUND, THE SECOND PASS LEGALIZE GAMBLING IS THE SECOND SOME PLACE OPENS IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOU WILL BE PEOPLE IN IT ALL THE TIME.

DOWNTOWN.

>> OH.

BUILDING, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE WAS TALK ABOUT 6 OR 700 YOUNG PEOPLE WIT GOOD JOBS ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT THERE NEAR WASHINGTON AVENUE.

EVERYBODY WAS EXCITED, YOU K AND THE BARS, PEOPLE WOULD BE GOING THERE AFTER WORK, AND NONE OF THAT HAPPENED, AND IT'S PEOPLE REMOTE WORKING OR SOMETHING.

THE PANDEMIC.

>> I BUSINESSES -- I'M SORRY CHARLIE -- ON WA THAT WERE JUST BEGINNING TO GET THAT TRACTION THAT A RESTAURANT OR, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND BAR OR WHATEVER NEEDS, THAT WAS WHEN BALLPARK VILLAGE OPENED, AND SO MANY OF T ABLE TO -- > HAD -- WE WERE T HOMICIDES IN ST. LOUIS.

SIX OF THEM HAVE BEEN DOWNTOWN, IF YOU INCLUDE DOWNTOWN WEST AND DOWNTOWN AND PEOPLE HEAR THESE THINGS, AND, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES HAVE BEEN CO LAWLESS, THAT THERE AREN'T ENOUGH DISPATCHERS ENOUGH PATROL CA PEOPLE HEAR THAT, THEIR EXPERIENCES, A HEY, I'M GOING TO STAY AWAY.

I AM GOING THE WORK REMOTELY OR GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR DINNER.

>> OF THAT 22.2 PE P DRO, I GUARANTEE YOU 22.1 OF IT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE.

-- OF THAT 22.2 PERCENT OF T DROP I GUARANTEE YOU 22.1 OF IT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE.

I DON'T EQUATE THE TWO.

YOU MIGHT BE S DOWNTOWN OR WASHINGTON AVENUE.

AT THE SAME TIME, I DON' THAT RESTAURANTS IN DOWNTOWN.

>> I'M VERY POLLYANNAISH TONIGHT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CONTINU ABOUT HOW DANG I KNOW THERE DOWNTOWN FOR A CONCERT -- FOR A COMEDY SHOW NEXT WEEK.

I'M SORRY, I'M NOT ONE OF PEOPLE -- I MEAN PEOPLE GO T BLUES GAMES, AND CARDINALS GAME, AND YES SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN JUST LIKE IT CAN ANYWH COUNTRY, BUT WE HAVE THIS SELF-FULFILLING P WITHOUT BEING AGAIN PHONY ABOUT IT.

>> WE HAVE TO PUT CO STREETS AND DISPATCHERS.

>> FINE, THEN GR POINT DO YOU STOP TALKING ABOUT HOW DANGEROUS IT IS TO GO DOWNTOWN?

TROUBLE HIRING AND KEEPING EMPLOYEES TOO.

>> AT LEAST GIVE IT A CHANCE.

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