>>>ANNOUNCER: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF 9 PBS.

>>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION OF DONNYBROOK AND GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

>> WE WILL TELL YOU HOW YOU CAN JOIN US IN JUNE FOR THE NEXT DONNY BASH.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

>> LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS.

WENDY IS TAKING OFF.

SARAH FENSKE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> BILL MCCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST AND ST L TODAY.COM.

>> RAY HARTMANN FROM THE RIVER FRONT TIMES.

AND THE BIG 550, KT RS.

>> AND ALVIN REID FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.

>>> ALVIN, WE WILL START WITH YOU, SINCE OUR LAST DONNYBROOK TWO WEEKS AGO, IT HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED THAT AN AGREEMENT HAS BEEN MADE FOR THE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS BETWEEN THE REGIONAL SPORTS AUTHORITY, ST. LOUIS COUNTY AND CITY.

THIS IS APART OF THE AGREEMENT WITH STAN.

250 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE CITY, AND CONVENTION WILL GET 30 MILLION, AND THE COUNTY WILL GET TWO THIRDS, 169 MILLION, AND THE REGIONAL SPORTS AUTHORITY GETS 70 MILLION DOLLARS.

IF YOU WERE GOING TO ASK ME, THE COUNTY SHOULDN'T GET A DOLLAR LESS THAN THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY CONTRIBUTED TO THE STADIUM.

I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DIVIDED EQUALLY.

>> IT IS NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE HAS A SALARY CAP.

THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY WE GOT.

AND YOUR AGENT GOES IN AND SAYS, HEY, I'M THE STAR OF THIS TEAM.

I MAY BE OLD AND NOT AS YOUNG BUT I'M THE STAR, I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.

YOUR JOB AS MY AGENT IS TO GET ME AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU CAN.

AND ST. LOUIS CAME OUT WITH THE MOST MONEY.

I APPLAUD ST. LOUIS, JOB WELL DONE.

YOU DESERVE THE MOST MONEY.

>> AND AS FOR THE COUNTY, STEVE STINGER, DIDN'T WANT ANY PART OF THE NEGOTIATION WHEN THEY WERE APART OF THIS.

YOU GET THE SHORTER END OF THE STICK.

THANK STEVE THERE.

>> STEVE STINGER -- >> CONVICTED -- >> YES, AND WENT TO PRISON FOR A WHILE.

HE DIDN'T HELP BUILD A NEW STADIUM.

THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR THIS MONEY WERE BETWEEN THE CITY, COUNTY AND STATE.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT IS BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGES AND THE DAMAGES WERE ALL CAUSED FOR THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

THEY PUT ALL OF THE MONEY IN THIS FAILED STADIUM AND THEY ARE THE ONES FOR SUFFER.

THERE'S NO ONE PLAYING DOWNTOWN.

THEY LOSE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT.

THEY SUFFERED.

>> IF YOU MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE COUNTY DEPENDS ON THE CITY AND AS THE CITY SHRINKS, IT HURTS THE WHOLE REGION, IT MAKES SENSE TO SAY WE WILL GIVE THE MOST MONEY TO THE CITY WHO NEEDS IT THE MOST.

>> YES, BUT THE COUNTY IS THREE TIMES THE SIZE OF THE CITY AND IT HAS ITS OWN PROBLEMS.

AND WITH REGARD TO TONIGHT -- GOT THE E-MAILS IN THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION SEARCH AND FOUND THERE WAS ALMOST NO ECONOMIC IMPACT WHEN THE RAMS PLAYED.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO DISAGREE WITH ALL OF YOU.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> STINGER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.

WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, HE WOULDN'T SUPPORT THE BOGUS STADIUM DEAL.

HE WANTED TO PUT IT TO VOTE FOR THE COUNTY -- VOTERS.

>> HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

>> IT WAS DAVE'S STADIUM.

>> ALL I'M SAYING IS THERE WAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH HOW IT CAME OUT.

>> WE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO -- TO THINK AS A REGION THE CITY AND COUNTY WORKING TOGETHER AND NOT JUST GOING BACK TO THEIR RESPECTIVE CORNERS.

I UNDERSTAND MY THE POLITICIANS DO IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE FOLKS WANT.

IT IS A NICE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING -- >> OKAY.

>> THERE WERE NO DAMAGES.

>> I DIDN'T SAY THEY HAD DANI DAMAGES.

SAM PAGE MUST HAVE KNOWN IT.

WHY DIDN'T HE SAY THIS WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR REELECTION.

THE CITY COULD HAVE GONE 280 MILLION.

AND THEY ANNOUNCED IT DURING THANKSGIVING WHEN THERE WAS NO DONNYBROOK AND NO RADIO.

>> YOU KNOW.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE BIG QUESTION GOING FORWARD LET'S HOPE THAT THEY DO IT, THAT THEY SEE SOME LONG-TERM THING TO DO, WHATEVER IT IS, BUT -- >> OH, RAY, WE KNOW.

AND YOU WANTED THE HARTMAN MENTAL HEALTH CENTER ON EVERY CORNER.

A [ALL TALKING AT ONCE].

>> IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE IS NO MONEY.

>> WAIT A MINUTE.

>> THIS IS HOW SHOULD THE MONEY BE SPENT?

THE COUNTY HAS 169?

WHEN WE GOT 790 MILLION DOLLARS.

AND THE LAWYERS TOOK THEIR SHARE AND GOT 512.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN THAT.

IT IS 519.

AND THE COUNTY GETS 169.

THAT IS LESS THAN THE CARDINAL'S PAYROLL FOR ONE YEAR.

>> 160 MILLION DOLLARS FOR A PLAYER.

>> THIS IS CHUMP CHANGE.

>> IF YOU FOUND 20 DOLLARS AN THE STREET, IT IS NOT A 50.

IT IS FOUND MONEY.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> WHAT SHOULD THE COUNTY SHOULD DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW TO SPEND IT.

THE COUNTY HAS A 40 MILLION DOLLAR HOLE IN THE BUDGET.

THEY WILL CUT ALL SORTS OF POSITIONS INCLUDING POLICE AND THEY WILL HAVE A PROP P IN TWO YEARS.

THE COUNTY SHOULD TAKE THE MONEY AND THROW IT IN THE GENERAL REVENUE.

AS FAR AS WHAT THE CITY SHOULD DO, I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A FOURTH OF JULY PARADE, NEW GARBAGE TRUCKS, NEW POLICE CARS AND MAYBE SOME POTHOLE FILLERS ROLL DOWN MARKET STREET.

THERE ARE PRACTICAL WAYS TO SPEND THE MONEY.

>> I AGREE.

I WOULD CALL THE POLICE'S BLUFF AND WE WILL CUT YOU A BIG CHECK AND NOW GO OUT AND STOP CRIME.

[LAUGHTER.]

.

>> WAIT.

HOLD IT!

>> I LIKE THAT.

>> BUT, THERE WOULD BE NO ANSWER.

OKAY, HERE YOU GO.

>> I LIKE THE PARADE IDEA.

I WILL SAY THAT I DON'T THINK -- I MEAN, THEY ARE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO.

I THINK THEY WILL PROBABLY -- >> THAT MEANS -- >> IF YOU DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS.

>> EXCUSE ME, I'M THE ONLY ONE IN TOWN -- >> FOR 975 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

>> CHARLES.

>> SARAH?

>> RIGHT.

>> NO, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHERE BILL IS COMING FROM.

IT IS A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING BIG AND IT IS A DISAPPOINTMENT.

YOU HAVE TO TRY TO ARGUE TO BRING BACK AS MUCH.

YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT ABOUT THE TIMING.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PAGE WAS GOING TO RUN ON.

THIS IS WHAT I GOT.

HE GOT A FAIR SHARE OF THE PIE.

>> LOOK AT -- THREE PEOPLE HAVE A PLANE, THERE ARE THREE HOUSES.

IF YOU GO TO YOUR NEIGHBOR'S AND SAY WE SHOULD POOL OUR MONEY AND DO THIS AND THE OTHER THING AND THEY WILL LOOK AT YOU SAY YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH YOUR MONEY.

>> THEY NEED TO FIX UP 911 IN THE CITY.

>> YEAH.

>> AND FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE AND 911 IN THE COUNTY.

THESE ARE THE STORIES OF THE WEEK THAT TRAGICALLY A BOY DROWN IN A POOL AND THEY CALLED 911 AND IT WENT TO COLORADO.

>> IN FAIRNESS, THAT WAS NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE 911 THAT WAS THE PARK SYSTEM NOT PROPERLY PROGRAMMING THEIR PHONE.

>> THEY HAVE 1 GUARD FOR 65 INMATES.

AND INMATES HAD TO DEFEND THE GUARDS AGAINST AN ATTACK.

>> THEY HAVE HAD TO CUT THE JAILS AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE JAIL AND THEY SAID WE WILL CUT IT.

>> I THINK THE WAY YOU WILL DO, IF YOU AIM IT AT CRIME, WHICH EVERYONE SAYS THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE, YOU CAN BUY ALL OF THE POLICE CARS.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO DO.

IF THEY WERE INVESTED -- THIS IS MY CONCEPT -- BIG PROJECTS THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE GET DONE.

NOT GENERAL REVENUE.

HOW BUILDING MORE REC CENTERS.

COMBAT CRIME, SO BUILD REC CENTERS.

>> HE THIS CAN'T BUILD TWO REC CENTER.

>> BUILD ONE.

>> RIGHT NOW, RAY.

>> THE POLICE CARS THEN, I DON'T CARE.

>> I WOULD FIGHT CRIME IN THE SHORT THERM.

I WOULD TAKE -- >> THAT'S -- >> AND I WOULD PUT IT TOWARDS LAW ENFORCEMENT.

>> IT ISN'T GOING TO WORK.

>> THAT'S NOT THE MAYOR'S GOAL.

SHE WANTS TO FIGHT THE ROOTS.

>> SHE IS RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

>> WHAT I WOULD DO -- >> PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE.

I WILL CALL YOUR BLUFF.

>> OKAY.

>> IF YOU WANT TO FIND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE POLICE IN THE CITY.

THEY ARE SOFT ON CRIME.

>> YOU WILL HAVE PLENTY OF CARS AND PLENTY OF POLICE OFFICERS.

>> HOLD THAT THOUGHT.

WE WILL HAVE FUN WHEN WE GO TO THE SHELDON IN JUNE FOR DONNY BASH.

HERE ARE THE DETAILS.

>> >> I'M THE MANAGER AT 9 PBS.

I'M SO EXCITED TO BE HERE >> AS WE ENJOY A SPIRITED CONVERSATION WITH THE DONNYBROOKERS.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO PROGRAMS LIKE YOUR FAVORITE PROGRAMS LIKE DONNYBROOK BECAUSE OF MEMBERS AND VIEWERS LIKE YOURSELF AS HOME.

IF YOU ARE THINKING YOU WANT TO BE A MEMBER, I HAVE AN AMAZING GIFT FOR YOU, YOU HAVE AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE BO DONNYBROOK AT THE 75 DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR CHOICE OF THE MUG OR A TICKET TO DONNY BASH JUNE 15, 2023.

IT IS A WAYS AWAY.

IT IS GOING TO BE AN EXCITING WEEK.

AND THEN AT THE 12 DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, THAT'S THE SUSTAINING, YOU WILL GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET 2 TICKETS AND THE CAMP MUG.

I LOVE THIS MUG SO MUCH.

I'M ENJOYING HOT COCOA, AND TOSS IT BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN HOT COCOA AND EGG NOG.

AND YOU WILL SEE THE DONNYBROOKERS LOVE THIS MUG AS WELL.

THAT'S AVAILABLE AT THE 12 DOLLAR LEVEL, TWO TICKETS AND THE MUG.

BOTH GIFTS ARE AMAZING, YOU GET TO SEE THE DONNYBROOKERS LIVE IN PERSON.

IF YOU ARE ENJOYING THE CONVERSATION YOU ARE HEARING TONIGHT AND YOU ARE LIKE, I WISH I COULD BE IN THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENS.

GUESS WHAT?

YOU HAVE YOUR CHANCE.

TEXT GIVE AT 800-568-9099.

OR GO TO 9 PBS.ORG.

WE MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU TO BE A MEMBER.

WE CAN ONLY DO THIS BECAUSE OF MEMBERS AND VIEWERS LIKE YOURSELF.

>> WE'LL GO TO THE DONNYBROOK TABLE WITH A SPECIAL GUEST.

I'M SURE YOU WILL RECOGNIZE HIS NAME IMMEDIATELY.

[MUSIC.]

>> DO NOT ADJUST YOUR SET.

I'M NOT SARAH FENSKE, I'M YALE HOLLEND HOLLENDER.

>> I'M HERE WITH FOUR OF THE LEGACY DONNYBROOK MEMBERS TO TALK ABOUT DONNY BASH.

DONNY BASH, I WANT TO SAY IS MORE THAN LIKELY NOW THE ST. LOUIS SOCIAL EVENT OF THE YEAR.

WE GET OUR CREW OUT, THEY ARE ALL DRESSED UP TO THE NINE'S.

WE HAVE CHARLIE, RAY.

AND WHO WILL WEAR THE MOST EXPENSIVE SUIT?

WHAT SCARF WILL WENDY WEAR?

AND WHAT ELECTRIC SUIT WILL ALVIN HAVE ON?

AND BILL WILL BE THERE TOO!

[LAUGHTER.]

.

IT IS A GREAT EVENT.

IT IS A STAR-STUDDED EVENT.

ALL OF THE SHOUT-OUTS TO ALL OF ST. LOUIS'S BEST AND BRIGHTEST.

>> I REMEMBER I TOOK MY DAD TO THE SHOW ONE YEAR.

AND I GOT A SHOUT-OUT BEFORE THE SHOW.

I COULD SEE THE PRIDE BEAMING FROM MY DAD AND HE SAID, SON, THIS IS NOT WHY I SENT YOU TO LAW SCHOOL.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> WHAT IS IN THE CUP?

[LAUGHTER.]

>> YOU MEAN THIS CUP YOU GET -- >> YEAH.

>> THIS IS SEGWAY.

>> YOU NEED TWO TICKETS AND A MUG, AND WE ARE IN JUNE.

AND IT IS WARM.

IT WAS WARM IN SEPTEMBER.

A JUNE NIGHT, BEAUTIFUL NIGHT.

WE HAVE A GREAT TIME.

>> WE NEED OUR SUPPORT AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE AND IT IS A WONDERFUL THING TO BE APART OF.

I'M PROUD TO BE ABLE TO TE THE STAGE WITH THE LADIES AND GENTLEMAN.

THE LADIES ARE NOT HERE.

YOU WANT TO BE APART OF THIS FUN NIGHT.

>> THE FIRST ONE WAS 2003.

WE MISSED ONE FOR COVID-19.

THIS IS NUMBER 20.

>> IT IS THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF DONNY BASH.

IT IS INCREDIBLE.

PLEASE, HELP US CELEBRATE BY CALLING THE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN.

THERE'S NOTHING LIKE IT.

THERE IS NO OTHER TV SHOW HAS A LIVE AUDIENCE AND A BIG DISCUSSION.

>> AND THE AUDIENCE AT THE END, THE AUDIENCE ASKS QUESTIONS.

AND IT HAS BECOME A TRADITION THAT MY GRANDDAUGHTER, EVIEVIE, ASKS THE TIME QUESTION.

AND IT IS LIKE, WHERE IS THE BEST ICE CREAM?

>> [LAUGHTER.]

>> WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DISAGREE.

IT IS NOT FAIR.

>> YOU DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS ME IN FRONT OF MY GRAND KIDS.

>> IT IS A LOT OF FUN!

YOU GET TO MEET YALE.

>> YOU HAVE BEEN KNOWN, PARTICULARLY WHEN THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE KNOWN AT THE TWITTER IN CHIEF.

>> TWITTER IN CHIEF OF DONNYBROOK.

>> YOU ARE THE COMEDIAN IN TOWN.

AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW -- GIANT IN THE LEGAL PROFESSION.

>> IN THE LAW.

>> IT IS FUN.

IT IS FUN FOR US.

>> IT IS MORE FUN THAN THIS SHOW!

[LAUGHTER.]

>> THERE IS A BAR BEFORE AND AFTERWARDS IN CASE YOU LOOK TO GET TODDY.

>> AND IT IS A GREAT FUNDRAISER FOR 9 PBS.

>> THERE'S A Q AND A SESSION WHERE THE AUDIENCE COULD BE APART OF THE SHOW AND THE BEST PART OF THAT WHEN THE AUDIENCE MEMBER IS ASKING A QUESTION, NOBODY HAS TO SAY TURN YOUR TELEVISION DOWN!

[LAUGHTER.]

>> DO YOU KNOW WHERE TODDY CAME FROM?

>> I DON'T THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ON PBS.

>> BING CROSBY AND BOB HOPE.

>> I KNEW IT WENT BACK A WAYS.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> 'TIS THE SEASON.

>> I GO BACK A BIT, APPARENTLY.

>> TO PUT THAT TODDY IN OUR BODY, WE HAVE A MUG.

MARTY IS GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT.

>> I SURE AM.

YOU GUYS, I AM NERDING OUT.

I'M IN THE SAME ROOM WITH YALE AND THE DONNYBROOKERS.

THIS IS SO EXCITING!

YOU HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY ON A LARGER SCALE.

WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER, 75 DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN A TICKET OR THE MUG THAT THEY WERE BRAGGING ABOUT.

YOU CAN DRINK OUT OF THE MUG LIKE THE DONNYBROOK AND HAVE A SPIRITED ARGUMENT OVER CHRISTMAS.

THAT'S AT 75 DOLLAR LEVEL, ONE TIME, AND YOU CAN GET THE MUG OR THE TICKETS.

AND AT THE 12 DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, BOTH THE TICKETS, 2 TICKETS AND THE AMAZING CAMPFIRE MUG.

OH MY GOODNESS, I LOVE THAT PACKAGE RIGHT THERE.

BOTH LEVELS GIVE YOU ACCESS 9 PBS PASSPORT.

A WIDE VARIETY OF PROGRAMMING, ON DEMAND WHENEVER YOU WANT, AT YOUR HOME.

TEXT GIVE OR GO TO 9 PBS.ORG.

>> WE WILL GO BACK WITH THE CONVERSATION WITH THE DONNYBROOK.

>>> THANKS A LOT.

WE'LL SEE YOU IN JUNE.

>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT, YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TAXING, FINANCING AND GIVEN TO PLACES AND COMPANIES THAT PROBABLY DON'T NEED IT.

NOW THE NAACP HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE SAYING THEY ARE OPPOSED TO TAX FINANCING, IN OTHER WORDS, SUBSIDY BY THE TAXPAYERS FOR DIERBERGSE.

I REMEMBER TAKING TO DICK FLEMMING AND HIS PEERS CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WE SUBSIDIZE GROCERY STORES IN THE ST. LOUIS AREA.

NAACP SAYS DON'T SUBSIDIZE THEM, BUILD ONE.

THERE IS ONE IN FLORENCE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> GENERALLY, YEAH.

I'M OPPOSED TO THIS AS A GENERAL RULE UNLESS THERE WERE USED THE WAY THEY WERE DESIGNED TO BE USED.

WHICH IS TO INCENTIVE DEVELOP ACTIVITY WITH OTHERWISE IT WOULDN'T GO.

I DON'T THINK CRESTWOOD GETS THAT AND THE OTHER AREAS FIT THAT.

I'M PUZZLED WHY THEY PICKED THIS ONE.

THEY PASS -- AGAIN -- MAYBE THEY ARE FOCUSED ON BEING A GROCERY STORE.

WHAT CHESTERFIELD IS GOING, AND I WROTE ABOUT IT -- PARK WAY IT IS TO A LESSER EVENT WAS A SCANDAL.

CRESTWOOD WAS 2016 TIFF.

I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF IT.

>> WELL -- >> I DON'T THINK -- ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OF CRITICIZING A TIFF, IT IS THE LATERAL, WE DON'T DO IT AND WE ARGUE WHERE SOMEONE ELSE WOULD HAVE DONE IT AND IF WE WANT THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHATEVER YOU THINK OF THEM, WE GOT TO NOT DISARM.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS -- IT WASN'T THE MOST EGREGIOUS EXAMPLE.

>> I THOUGHT CRESTWOOD WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF USING THE TIFF.

I THOUGHT THE OTHERS, IC70 AND UNIVERSITY WAS CRAZY.

IT KNOCKED DOWN A LOT OF EXISTING BUILDING.

WHEN CRESTWOOD MALL WENT UNDER, THEY COULDN'T FIND ANYBODY TO GO IN THERE.

ALL OF THE TIFF'S IN THE WORLD, THIS IS NOT A BAD ONE.

>> GROWING UP THERE.

CRESTWOOD WAS ON NOT INDOOR MALL AND IT WAS A POPULAR MALL.

FIRST DISNEY STORE WAS THERE AND PEOPLE WHO LIVED OUT THERE REMEMBER THAT.

IT WAS A GIANT MOUND OF EARTH.

AND ONE CHICAGO FIRM -- IT WAS THE RIGHT NAME FOR IT -- DIERBERGS IS NOT WHAT THEY ARE -- THEY ARE LOCAL, THIS TIFF WAS PASSED IN 2016.

IF YOU DRIVE PASSED THERE, THE DIERBERGS IS CLOSE TO BEING FINISHED.

>> YEAH.

>> WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM?

>> THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

I THINK THE BIGGING QUESTION IS WHAT DICK FLEMMING IS MAKING.

WHY ARE WE DOING THIS FOR GROWER STORES.

THEY WILL FIND A PLACE A MILE AND A HALF DOWN THE ROAD.

>> THERE WILL BE OUTDOOR VENUE, AND MCBRIDE HOMES WHICH IS NOT GETTING THE MONEY, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT.

>> HERE'S THE THING; NOT THE RCJ RCJ, BUT -- HAVE DONE STUDIES.

THEY DON'T CREATE JOBS, THEY MOVE THE CUSTOMERS FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.

THIS IS BREAKING NEWS ON DONNYBROOK, AT THE OLIVE STREET LOCATION, WHERE THEY RIPPED DOWN BOB'S SEAFOOD AND LUMBER COMPANY, GREAT SMALL BUSINESSES.

PUTTING UP A CHICK-FIL-A AND RAISING CAIN'S.

>> FAMILY-OWNS BUSINESSES THAT HAVE SURVIVED FOR YEARS HAVE BEEN TIFFED OUT OF BUSINESS.

IT IS CRAZY.

>> THEY ARE IMMIGRANTS AND FOUND THEM A WAY TO SURVIVE.

AND THEN COMES IN A CHICK-FIL-A?

>> IT WAS EMPTY.

>> LEAVE THE COSTCO ALONE.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> LEAVE IT ALONE.

>> ALVIN REID, MAYBE IT IS NOT TOO NEW.

I CAN RECALL YEARS AGO, I MENTION MENTIONED JOHN COLLINS-MUHAMMAD WAS SUING SUBSIDIES FROM WHERE THE BLUE'S PLAY.

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGES IF YOU LOSE.

THEY HAVE DROPPED THE LAWSUIT.

AND NOW THEY ARE SEEING GROSS.

BECAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE LAWS.

THE CITY SAYS YOU ARE A SEEKING SHOW BOAT AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO SUE YOU.

IT IS TELLING PEOPLE DON'T EVER SUE FOR DOCUMENTS UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.

>> I DON'T THINK IT IS SAYING THAT EXACTLY.

IT IS A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW FOR THE CRAZY LAWSUITS.

>> CRAZY LAWSUITS?

>> THIS IS NOT A CRAZY LAWSUIT!

>> WAIT A MINUTE -- LET ME FINISH.

I WANT A -- CAR FOR EVERYONE IN ARIZONA.

IF A CITY ENTITY, INDIVIDUAL PERSON, IF YOU SUE ME, I MAY SUE YOU BACK.

I'M SORRY, I CAN'T BE MAD ABOUT THAT.

>> THIS STARTED WITH GROSS WHO IS ONE OF THE MOST BEST PEOPLE IN THE STATE.

-- >> I DON'T DISLIKE HIM.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS CHARACTER.

>> HE IS ON ERICK.

THIS IS NOT CHARACTER.

>> HE WAS SUING FOR SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY WERE INJURED IN THE JAIL BECAUSE THE LOCKS DIDN'T WORK.

AND THEN A VIDEO THAT WOULDN'T RELEASE AND CITY WOULDN'T GIVE THEM ANYTHING ON THE LOCKS IN THE JAIL.

THAT LED TO FRUSTRATION AND HE FILED A LAWSUIT.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS NOT A STUPID LAWSUIT.

NONE OF US LIKE THOSE.

THIS IS A REASONABLE LAWSUIT.

A SUNSHINE LAWSUIT AND FOR THE CITY TO -- AND I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT THE POST DISPATCH TALKING ABOUT TISHAURA JONES.

NOTHING WRONG WITH HER.

THE CITY HAS HAD A CULTURE AND A LOT OF GOVERNMENTS HAVE WHERE WE CONFUSE OWNERSHIP WITH RENTING.

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU ARE GOVERNMENT, YOU ARE RENTING.

>> DEFEND THE POST DISPATCH FOR A SECOND.

TISHAURA JONES IS THE MAYOR.

>> RIGHT.

THEY CHEAP-SHOTTED HER.

>> NO.

IT WAS NOT A CHEAP SHOT.

THE SYSTEM THAT SHE HAS SET UP FOR PUBLIC RECORD, IT IS A HUGE DISASTER.

IT IS A HUGE PROBLEM AND THIS LAWSUIT GOT UNDER THE CITY'S SKIN.

SHE PRIDES HERSELF ON TRANSPARENCY.

>> GROSS, THEY SAID HE WAS A PUBLICITY HOUND.

AND OUR PAPER DID A STORY ON THE PROBLEMS GETTING THE MOST BASIC RECORDS BECAUSE OF THE BROKEN SYSTEM.

>> WHEN YOU WERE REMEMBER, YOU AND AMERICAN PUBLIC MEDIA SUED THE CITY -- >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THAT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULDN'T HAND OVER.

>> THERE WERE OUT OF BOUNDS.

THEIR RECORD IS NOT GOOD.

THE CITY COUNCIL'S OFFICE CRITICIZEIZED HIM SAYING HIS PICTURE APPEARED IN THE STORY.

THIS IS THE OLD FILE PHOTO ON HAND.

IT IS NOT LIKE HE IS E-MAILING HIS PHOTO AROUND.

HE FILES A LAWSUIT AND THEY DECIDED TO COME BACK BLISTERING.

>> IT MADE IT SOUND LIKE SHE WAS AN OPPONENT IN TRANSPARENCY.

THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING.

>> IT WAS TERRIBLE.

>> IT WENT TO THE POINT.

SHE IS A MAYOR!

>> EVERYONE IS DOING THIS.

EVERYBODY IS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING DOCUMENTS.

JOSH HAWLEY SUED BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GET THE DOCUMENTS.

HE PLAYED IT BOTH WAYS.

>> KIM GARDNER, CITY HALL, MAYBE THERE ARE TOO MANY REQUESTS AND THEY COULD NOT ACCOMMODATE.

>> IT IS NOT THAT.

>> THE SUNSHINE REQUEST, IT IS LIKE WHAT ALVIN IS SAYING, IT IS ALL-CONSUMING AND I WANT TO SEE ALL OF THE E-MAILS BETWEEN SO AND SO AND SO AND SO.

>> THIS LAWSUIT IS NOT THAT.

>> CHARLIE BROUGHT THAT UP.

>> GROSS WAS WORK WITH THE MEDIA OUTLETS.

THEY SAID IT WAS SHOW-BOATING.

IT WENT FIRST TO THE POST DISPATCH AND THEN GOT FILED.

AFTER THEY CRITICIZED HIM FOR SHOW-BOATING, HE READ IT IN THE DISPATCH.

>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE DEFENDING THE CITY.

>> NO.

I THINK THE CITY HAS A CULTURE, LIKE A LOT OF GOVERNMENTS OF BEING UNRESPONSIVE, NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE TRANSPARENT.

>> WHO IS THE MAYOR?

>> WELL, I SAID, I THINK TISHAURA JONES ADMINISTRATION AND THE LONG LINE OF ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO DO BETTER.

>> IT IS WHAT THEY HAVE IN COMMON WITH JOSH HAWLEY AND SCHMITT.

ALL OF THE OFFICES HAVE TROUBLE PRODUCING DOCUMENTS.

>> PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT DON'T RESPECT THAT.

>> WE HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK, WE ARE GOING TO IITE YOU TO JOIN US IN JUNE TO DONNY BASH.

>> I EVERYONE I HOPE YOU ARE ENJOYING THIS CONVERSATION.

IT IS SO MUCH FUN, RIGHT?

YOU GET THE AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE DONNYBROOKERS LIVE.

>> AT THE 75 DOLLAR LEVEL, THAT'S 1 TIME, IT IS A HARD CHOICE, FOR THE CHOICE BETWEEN A TICKET TO DONNY BASH AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL, 6 P.M., JUNE 23.

THAT'S A THURSDAY.

IT IS ON A THURSDAY.

OR YOU GET THE MUG.

THIS MUG IS AMAZING.

IT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES IN MY CABINET RIGHT NOW.

AT THE NEXT LEVEL, YOU HAVE A COMBINATION OF THE TWO.

YOU GET THE MUG AND TWO TICKETS.

IT IS JUNE 15, THAT'S A THURSDAY.

YOU WILL BE LIVE WITH THE DONNYBROOKERS.

IT IS SO AMAZING.

>> YOU GET ACCESS TO PASSPORT.

YOU GET THE MAGAZINE, IT IS EVERY OTHER MAGAZINE.

I HEAR THAT YOU LOVE THIS MAGAZINE.

YOU CAN CIRCLE YOUR PROGRAM AND WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE AT 9 PBS.

>> IF YOU ARE A MEMBER, THANK YOU!

JOIN IN ON THE PARTY.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE APART OF THE 9 PBS FAMILY AND TO SEE, I MEAN, WHO ELSE?

DONNYBROOK LIVE ON STAGE.

DONNY BASH IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE EVENTS OF THE YEAR.

GIVE US ALL, GO TO WEBSITE, 9 PBS.ORG.

>> WE WILL GO TO THE TABLE WITH YALE AND THE DONNYBROOKERS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE ARE BACK WITH A DONNYBROOK TEAM.

THIS IS CIVIL DISCOURSE ON CIVIC AFFAIRS.

SAY THAT THREE TIMES FAST.

>> IT IS A SHOW THAT INCLUDES MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE IS USING THE SAME STREETS AS THEIR VIEWERS.

SHOPPING AT THE SAME STORE OF THE VIEWERS.

>> .

>> IT IS A COMMUNITY SHOW WITH COMMUNITY FIGURES.

THAT'S WHY DONNYBROOK IS SUCH A SPECIAL EVENT.

IT IS LITERALLY, THE PUBLIC GETTING TO BE TOGETHER WITH THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS THAT IS IN FRONT OF TV CAMERAS EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT TALKING ABOUT THE AFFAIRS THAT EFFECT ALL OF US.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF BILL BUYS HIS CLOTHING WHERE EVERYONE ELSE BUYS THEIR'S?

[LAUGHTER.]

>> THAT'S A SHOT.

>> LET'S NOT GET PERSONAL.

>> DONNYBROOK IS SUCH A BLAST.

IT CHANGING THE NATURE OF THE DISCUSSION.

DONNY BASH IS A BLAST.

YOU CAN'T HELP PLAY TO THE AUDIENCE.

ALVIN CAN GET RED HOT.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> AND RAY I THINK OF AS MIC JAGGER.

>> CAN WE SEE ALVIN'S SHOES ON CAMERA?

CAN YOU BRING IT UP TO THE TABLE?

>> OKAY.

>> WHERE ELSE CAN YOU GET THIS?

>> IT IS CHRISTMAS.

WE NEED TO GET IN THE SPIRIT!

>> IT IS BEGINNING TO LOOK A LOT LIKE ALVIN!

WE ARE GOING TO SING THAT.

>> BEFORE I WAS ON AS A GUEST, WHERE THE PEOPLE KNEW -- WALKED UP AND TALKED TO YOU.

PEOPLE LIKE THIS?

NO [LAUGHTER.]

>> ONCE YOU DO DONNY BASH AND YOU MEET PEOPLE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND THEY TELL YOU HOW LONG THEY HAVE WATCH IT AND THEIR KIDS WOULD RUN OUT OF THE ROOM WHEN IT WAS ON WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER NOW SIT THERE WITH THEM.

OH, GOD, I'M OLD.

DOING SOMETHING.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE UNLESS PEOPLE DO SOMETHING FOR CHANNEL 9.

PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PBS DOES THIS OR NATIONAL EDUCATION WHATEVER DOES THIS.

NO, NO.

THIS WHOLE THING IS ABOUT WHAT YOU GIVE TO CHANNEL 9.

ALL WE CAN DO IS THREE TIMES A YEAR IS ASK.

>> THANK YOU!

>> IT IS VIEWER-SUPPORTED TV.

AND THIS SHOW BILL AND RAY YOU WERE THERE ON DAY ONE.

IT GOES BACK TO19871987.

>> THANKS FOR THAT REMINDER.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> MIC JAGGER WAS AN AGE JOKE.

>> I WANT TO SAY AND TO ADD TO THIS, WHEN YOU ARE SUPPORTING US OR GOING TO DONNY BASH, YOU ARE SUPPORTING PBS TOO.

IT IS A BIG DEAL!

.

PARTICULARLY IN THE TIMES WE LIVE IN.

TAKE THAT FOR WHATEVER.

PBS HAS NEVER PLAYED A MORE IMPORTANT ROLL AND THEY ARE THE BEST PBS STATION IN THE COUNTRY.

AND BILL FEELS THIS WAY, 35 YEARS, GOING ON 36, I THINK.

NEXT MONTH!

WHICH IS KIND OF RIDICULOUS.

IN 36 YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN TREATED SO WELL BY THIS STATION.

>> WE HAVE.

>> IT IS A FAMILY.

IT IS A SERIOUSLY, AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND PBS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR NATION.

REMEMBER THAT.

>> AND THE SAME PEOPLE COME TO DONNY BASH EVERY YEAR.

WE SEE PEOPLE FROM GREENVILLE, ILLINOIS.

WE SEE PEOPLE ONCE A YEAR AND IT IS AT DONNY BASH.

>> WASN'T TERRY IN THE FRONT ROW?

>> HE WAS.

>> IF WE FELL OFF THE STAGE, WE WOULD BE OKAY.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> HAVE WE MENTIONED -- FORGIVE ME IF I REPEATED MYSELF -- YOU COULD GET A TODDY FOR THE BODY.

>> AND YOU CAN GET A MUG.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

WE HAVE WANT TO SEND YOU THE THANK YOU GIFTS IMMEDIATELY WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER.

YOU MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.

IT HELPS US CONTINUE WHAT WE DO.

AT THE 75 DOLLAR, ONE TIME, THE CHOICE OF THE TICKET OR THE MUG WITH ALL OF THE DONNYBROOKERS AND YALE OVER THERE.

AND YOU CAN ENJOY THE TODDY OR EGG NOG, ANY OF IT.

YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF THE TICKET.

>> AND AT THE 12 DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU HAVE THE AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO GET 2 TICKETS AND THE MUG.

THAT'S RIGHT!

YOU CAN DRINK YOUR FAVORITE BEVERAGE FROM THAT AMAZING MUG.

BOTH LEVELS, YOU CAN ACCESS TO 9 PBS PASSPORT, AND THE MAGAZINE, IT GIVES YOU ALL OF THE INFORMATION.

GO TO 9 PBS.ORG OR CALL US.

>>> THANKS.

>> THE EXECUTION OF KEVIN JOHNSON.

I KNOW HE COMMITTED A HORRIFIC CRIME AND I FEEL BAD FOR THE POLICE OFFICER THAT WAS KILLED BY JOHNSON.

WHEN HIS ONLY KIN, KHORRY, 19-YEAR-OLD, SUED TO BE WITH HER FATHER IN THE LAST MOMENTS OF HIS LIFE, WHICH I CONSIDER A HOLY OCCASION, WHICH WAS DENIED.

SHOULD THE COURT STEP IN.

HE IS A HUMAN BEING.

I KNOW HE IS A MURDERER.

>> THERE ARE WAYS THEY COULD HAVE DONE.

HER MOTHER WAS MURDERED IN FRONT OF HER WHEN SHE WAS 3 OR 4 YEARS OLD.

SHE WAS NOT THE ONE WHO COMMITTED THE CRIME.

SHE WANTED TO BE THERE AND HOLD HER FATHER'S HAND.

AND THEY FOUND A WAY NOT TO DO IT.

>> -- IF THEY SUGGESTED, IF THEY COULDN'T GET THROUGH, MIKE PARSON COULD SAY, LET HERB IN THE ROOM.

IF YOU GET IN LEGAL TROUBLE, I WILL PARDON YOU.

THAT WAS A NICE MOVE.

>> YOU CAN'T PUT PEOPLE IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

>> IT IS NOT FAIR FOR THE WORKER WORKE WORKERS.

>> YOU ARE NOT IN THE ROOM ANY WAY.

THE CONDEMNED PERSON IS IN A ROOM ALL ALONE.

HIS WITNESSES ARE ON ONE SIDE AND THE STATE'S WITNESSES ARE HERE AND THE VICTIM'S FAMILY IS UP HERE.

IT IS NOT LIKE SHE COULD HAVE BEEN THERE.

SHE WAS ALLOWED TO VISIT HER DAD, OF COURSE, AND HOLD HIS HAND AND HUG HIM BEFOREHAND.

I THINK THAT THE STATE HAS A RIGHT, MAYBE A RESPONSIBILITY, TO SET A LIMIT, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE WHAT IF A FELLOW SAID, I WOULD LIKE MY GRAND KIDS TO WATCH THIS.

AND THEY WERE 7 AND 8 YEARS OLD.

>> SHE IS 19.

HE WAS 19 WHEN HE COMMITTED THIS CRIME.

YOU CAN DO A CRIME THAT WILL HAVE YOU SENTENCED TO DEATH.

BUT AS A 19-YEAR-OLD, SHE IS NOT OLD ENOUGH?

>> SHE CAN VOTE -- I DON'T LIKE THIS.

>> THE WHOLE THING IS -- MIKE'S CONDUCT WAS AWFUL.

>> I THINK THE JUDGE WAS PUT IN A SITUATION, ALL OF THE RAUL GARC RULINGS COULD HAVE BEEN MADE.

>> WE ARE IN A STATE THAT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE GUN LAWS AND DOESN'T RECOGNIZE FEDERAL MARIJUANA LAWS.

FOR THAT MATTER!

>> WHO WOULD'VE BEEN THE VICTIM HERE?

>> THESE ARE TERRIBLE SITUATION S. EXECUTIONS AND SOMETIMES THERE'S NO GOOD WAY TO DO THAT.

>> I THINK -- >> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT JAY ASHCROFT -- I'M CHANGING SUBJECTS HERE BECAUSE TIME IS LIMITED.

HE HAS BEEN OUT IN FRONT OF A LOT OF STORIES.

HE SENT A LETTER TO ROY BLUNT SAYING HE WANTS HIM NOT TO SUPPORT THE DEFENSE OF MARRIAGE LEGISLATION -- OR THE LEGISLATION WHICH PROTECTS SAME SEX MARRIAGE IN WASHINGTON D.C.

HE WANTS TO REGULATE BOOKS IN LIBRARIES.

AND YOU MAY RECALL ON ELECTION DAY, HE WOULDN'T ALLOW THE U.S. ATTORNEY INSIDE VOTING LOCATIONS.

>> HE IS RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

I THOUGHT THE LETTER ON SAME SEX MARRIAGE WAS FUNNY.

HE BELIEVES THAT MARRIAGE IS AN EXCLUSIVE LIFETIME CONTRACT BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN AND ANYTHING AGAINST THAT COULD HURT CHILDREN.

IT IS COMING OUT AGAINST DIVORCE.

IF THE REPUBLICANS HAD PROBLEM COMING OUT ABORTIONS AND THEY CAN COME OUT AGAINST DIVORCE.

YOU CAN TRUST WITH OTHERS.

I THOUGHT IT WAS RIDICULOUS.

AND ROY BLUNT IS DIVORCED.

>> IT WAS RIDICULOUS, I AGREE.

BUT NOT AS A POLITICAL MOVE.

THE ONLY HEADLINE -- HE IS RUNNING AGAINST MIKE, THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND A MUCH HIGHER GRADE OF CANDIDATE.

IN MY OPINION.

I DON'T AGREE WITH HIM POLITICALLY.

BUT A SOLID GUY.

AS OPPOSED TO JAY ASHCROFT, WHO IS JUST JAY.

HE IS TRYING TO STAKE OUT THE MAGA LANE.

I'M ANTI GAY MARRIAGE.

YOUR MOVE.

>> HE WAS READING BY THE PLAYBOOK BY BUSH AND SCHMITT.

YOU SAY THINGS LIKE THIS.

THE RIVER FRONT TIMES, ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, THEY WILL PILE UP ON AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT ON DONNYBROOK.

>> KEEP BUSH OUT OF THIS.

>> SHE IS SIMILAR.

>> NO, SHE IS NOT.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GOLDSMITH RELEASING PHOTO OF ALDERMAN TAKING BRIBES.

YOU CAN SEE PHOTOS OF LEWIS, REED, AND OTHERS ACCEPTING THE CASH.

WAS IT PILING ON?

>> I DON'T THINK IT IS PILING ON.

THEY ARE LETTING US SEE THE EVIDENCE AND THE EVIDENCE SHOWS HOW BIG THIS WAS.

THIS WAS HANDFULS OF CASH.

NOT LET ME PUT THE CASH ON THE TABLE AND YOU PICK IT UP FIVE MINUTES LATER.

THEY DIDN'T TRY TO HIDE WHAT THERE WERE DOING.

>> THEY PLEAD GUILTY.

I HAD SYMPATHY AND ADMITTEDLY.

I DON'T KNOW THEM AT ALL.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS PILING ON.

THEY PLEADED GUILTY.

>> THERE WERE ABOUT TO BE SENTENCED.

>> THE JUDGE IS AWARE OF WHAT THEY DID.

>> WE SHOULD SEE WHAT THE JUDGE SEES.

>> NO FAN OF LEWIS, REED, AND THE OTHERS.

MAYBE, IT IS TOO STRONG TO SAY THEY DIDN'T DESERVE IT.

>> THEY DESERVE IT.

>> COME ON, THAT WAS A BIT MUCH.

THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY.

>> A QUICK STORY; MARY, OUR RECEPTIONS -- SHE CALLS.

SHE WAS FIRED UP.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS.

IT IS SO EMBARRASSING.

MARY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> I GUESS THE PROSECUTOR WAS SAYING -- >> THIS IS HOW THEY DID THIS.

HE KNOWS THE REACTION WILL GET ON PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW MAYBE THEY DIDN'T DESERVE WHAT THEY GOT.

REALLY?

>> I DON'T LIKE JUDGING PEOPLE BY THE WORST DAY OF THEIR LIFE.

THEY HAVE A GREAT PROSECUTION.

I DON'T THINK IT DESERVES CRITICISM.

>> WHEN THEY GO TO PRISON.

THEY ARE PEOPLE, AND THEY ARE COMING BACK.

I DON'T SAY IT IS SYMPATHY.

IT IS NOT LIFE IN PRISON FOR WHAT HE DID.

HE WILL PAY HIS PRICE.

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, HE IS A HUMAN BEING.

HE IS PAYING THE PRICE.

THAT'S ALL.

>>> HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACH SAYS THE CAMERA DOESN'T LIE.

MAYBE THAT APPLIES HERE.

>> IF THERE WERE NOT PLEADING GUILTY, BUT THEY DID.

>> THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO INTRODUCE THAT IN THE TRIAL.

>> YOU CAN WRITE TO US ABOUT THIS EPISODE AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE PHOTOS AND WRITING TO 9 PBS, OLIVE STREET, ST. LOUIS.

WE LOVE THE E-MAILS, DONNYBROOK 9 PBS.ORG.

HASH TAG DONNYBROOK ST L. >> CALL THE 9 LINE, AND 512-9094.

AND LISTEN TO US ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCAST, APPLE, TUNE IN, GOOGLE PLAY.

>> THANKS TO SARAH FENSKE FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION.

THEY THANK YOU, SARAH.

>> WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD SEEING DONNY BASH IN JUNE.

IN A MOMENT, MORE DETAILS.

>>>ANNOUNCER: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF 9 PBS.

CAPTIONS PROVIDED BY CAPTION ASSOCIATES LLC WWW.CAPTIONASSOCIATES.COM >>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> WE CAN ONLY CONTINUE TO PRODUCE CONTENT LIKE THIS THAT DEEPENS THE UNDERSTAND OF OUR REGION AND OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF MEMBERS AND VIEWERS LIKE YOURSELF AT HOME.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YOUR SUPPORT HELPS US TO CONTINUE LIKE DONNYBROOK, NOVA, SO MUCH MORE.

WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DONATION, WE WANT TO SEND YOU A THANK YOU GIFT BY INVITING YOU TO SEE DONNYBROOK AT DONNY BASH.

LET'S DIVE INTO THE THANK YOU GIFTS.

>> AT THE 75 DOLLAR LEVEL ONE TIME, YOU HAVE TO CHOICE BETWEEN THE TICKET OR THE MUG.

THE TICKET TO SEE DONNYBROOK LIVE THURSDAY, JUNE 15, 2023, THAT'S RIGHT, 2023, AT 6 P.M. OR YOU GET THIS FANTASTIC MUG.

THAT YOU SEE THE DONNYBROOKERS DRINKING OUT OF.

>> AT THE 12 DOLLAR AMOUNT LEVEL, YOU CAN 2 TICKETS ALONG WITH THE MUG.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THE MUG AND TWO TICKETS.

THAT IS GOING TO BE SUCH A HOT, HOT ITEM.

YOU WANT TO GIVE US A CALL OR 800-568-OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE.

9 PBS.ORG.

YOU WILL ENJOY 9 PBS PASSPORT, YOU CAN ACCESS TO A WIDE VARIETY OF 9 PBS PROGRAMMING ON DEMAND.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THIS.

YOU WILL SEE ALVIN'S SHOES!

WHO KNOWS WHAT COLOR THEY WILL BE.

>> I WILL TELL YOU, IT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE EVENTS OF THE YEAR.

IT IS GREAT TO BE IN A ROOM FULL OF ALL OF OUR MEMBERS AND VIEWERS THAT HAVE SUPPORTED US, OR MAYBE THEY ARE NEW.

THAT COULD BE YOU.

COME ON DOWN, CELEBRATE WITH US, JUNE 15, 2023.

AND HEAR A SPIRITED DISCUSSION.

>> WE WILL GO TO THE DONNYBROOKERS AND YALE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YES, 2023.

DONNY BASH 2023.

IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE WILL BE HALF WAY THROUGH THE YEAR WHEN WE ALL GET TOGETHER AT THE SHELDON FOR THIS WOLVERINDERFUL EVENT.

>> THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR THE PANEL, WHAT WILL WE BE TALKING ABOUT IN 2023?

THE HAWKS WINNING?

ARE WE GOING TO BE TALKING ALL OF THE WORK THAT A SPLIT CONGRESS IS GOING TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR?

ARE WE GOING TO BE TO COUNTING THE ATTORNEYS GENERAL?

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 2023?

>> WHAT TO DO WITH THE STADIUM.

>> TWO THINGS; ONE, CARDINAL'S MANAGER HAS BEEN FIRED, AND HOLIDAY IS THE NEW MANAGER.

AND TWO; 14 ALDERMANS.

AND RUBBER WILL BE HITTING THE ROAD.

I THINK THAT WILL BE BIG TIME TALK.

>> YOU THINK HE WILL BE FIRED?

>> IF HE LOSES TOO MANY GAMES, YEAH.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT LIVE TV THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T THINK AHEAD.

AT A CERTAIN POINT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME COMING UP WITH WORDS.

SUNSHINE LAW!

>> LIVE TV IS A FASCINATING THING TO DO AND WATCH AS WELL.

>> I THINK THERE IS A PRESS CONFERENCE TO ADDRESS THE MEDIA WHY WE HAD TO SAY GOODBYE TO PANELISTS WHO WERE VOCHINVOLVED IN A SCANDAL.

[LAUGHTER.]

BLACK AND WHITE PHOTOS?

>> WE WOULDN'T CAPTURE YOUR SHOES!

.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> AND NOT TO CRITICIZE TV.

I WASN'T ATTEMPTING TO DO THAT, I MANAGED TO STICK NOT ONE, BUT BOTH FEET IN MY MOUTH.

>> I WAS TRYING TO MAKE A POINT -- >> IT IS SOMETHING ABOUT POLITICS.

>> YEAH, IT WAS ABOUT POLITICS.

OUR REGULAR VIEWERS KNOW, IN THE MANNER, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TV ADS, I WAS TRYING TO SAY SOCIAL MEDIA TOOK OVER TV AS THE DOMINANT THING.

NOBODY CARES ABOUT TV.

>> NOBODY WATCHES TV ANYMORE.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY THAT.

>> IT WILL BE A GOOD ONE.

>> IT WAS NOT A GOOD MOMENT.

>> TO BILL'S POINT.

IT IS LIVE.

WHAT YOU SAY, PEOPLE CUT YOU SOME SLACK.

I HAD FIVE PEOPLE ON TOP OF ME.

[LAUGHTER.]

AND THE AUDIENCE HOLLERING.

IT WAS FUN.

IT WAS STUPID, IT WAS FUN.

>> A LITTLE SECRET ABOUT RAY.

YALE AND I WERE DISCUSSING THE SHOW IS 27 MINUTES AND 47 SECONDS LONG.

WITH RAY, THOUGH, WE TIME HIM WITH A CALENDAR.

>> LIKE SANDS THROUGH THE HOUR GLASS.

>> AND THE JANET JACKSON MIC.

THAT WAS NEW.

>> THE MIC?

>> WHATEVER YOU CALL IT.

>> WE DIDN'T HAVE WARDROBE MALFUNCTIONS.

>> MINE KEPT FALLING OFF.

>> THIS IS CHEAP AS ALFRED E E NEWMAN WOULD SAY.

>> IT IS A BARGAIN.

12 BUCKS A MONTH AND YOU GET A YEAR'S WORTH OF MEMORIES IN 60 MINUTES AT THE SHELDON.

AND THE SMOOSH FEST, AND CAKE POPS, MEATBALLS, ADULT BEVERAGES, THERE ARE SOFT DRINKS.

TO EXPLAIN THAT, MARTY.

>> TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE.

>> THE DONNY BASH LIVE IS GOING TO BE PARADISE.

>> I LOVE HEARING THE PREDICTIONS FOR TO 2023 CONVERSATIONS.

YOU SHOULD TELL US WHAT THE DONNYBROOKERS ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN THE SUMMER.

WE DON'T KNOW.

>> YOU HAVE INVITED US INTO YOUR HOMES FOR 67 YEARS.

THAT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME!

.

WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

>> SO, YOU GET THE CHOICE BETWEEN THE TICKET OR THE MUG AT THE 75 DOLLAR DOLLARS.

THAT'S ONE TIME, 75 DOLLARS.

>> THE TICKET TO DONNY BASH LIVE AT SHELDON HALL.

THAT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITES, JUNE 15, 6 P.M. >> AT THE 12 DOLLAR AMOUNT LEVEL, TWO TICKETS AND THE AMAZING MUG THAT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE.

I KEEP DRINKING EVERYTHING OUT OF IT.

U WILL TOO.

>> 800-568-9099.

GO TO NINEPBS.ORG.

GO TO OUR WEBSITE!

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US!

.

HOPE TO SEE YOU AT DONNY BASH!

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