Donnybrook
Donnybrook: February 16, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 13 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, Ray Hartmann and Bill McClellan.
Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, Ray Hartmann and Bill McClellan.
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Season 2023 Episode 13 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, Ray Hartmann and Bill McClellan.
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>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.
LOTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS WEEK, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT THE TROPHY IS BACK IN MISSOURI.
AND THE WENDY WIESE CLAN COULDN'T BE HAPPIER.
AND MR. BILL MCCLELLAN IS NOT THAT HAPPY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND -- [LAUGHTER.]
FROM LAST WEEK'S SHOW.
HE IS WITH THE POST DISPATCH.
AND RAY HARTMANN IS HERE AND ALVIN REID.
NOTED COWBOYS FAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.
>> IT WAS 20 YEARS THAT WE LOST OUR COLLEAGUE AND DONNYBROOK REGULAR, NAN WYATT.
YOU WORKED WITH HER AND TELEVISION AUDIENCES IN ST. LOUIS ARE GREATLY DIMINISHED WITH HER LOSS.
>> SHE WAS A GREAT FRIEND AND AS FAR AS DONNYBROOK GOES, SHE WAS THE BEST OF US.
SHE WOULD LEAVE THE STATION AND GO TO LUNCH WITH ANYONE ON ANY SIDE OF THE AISLE.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT SOME ISSUE, YOU KNEW NAN HAD BEEN TALKING TO THE GOVERNOR OR SOMEONE ELSE ABOUT IT.
SHE LOVED BEING NAN WYATT.
SHE WORKED HARD AND A GREAT FRIEND AS WELL.
>> I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.
WHAT A WONDERFUL MOTHER.
IT WAS -- I THINK I AM STILL KIND OF NUMB.
>> SURREAL.
>> AND SHE WAS SUCH A GOOD PERSON AND AS BILL SAID, SHE WAS ONE OF US THAT CAME EQUIPPED WITH FACTS.
SHE WAS A TERRIFIC PERSON OFF CAMERA AND BELOVED BY PEOPLE ON CAMERA AND ON THE RADIO AND MIC.
>> TRULY.
AND SHE WAS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF A FAMILY.
I MEAN, SHE WAS A SISTER.
SHE WAS A BELOVED DAUGHTER, NANCY AND JIM, WE STILL THINK OF THEM AND HOPE THEY ARE DOING WELL AND SHE LOVED ST. LOUIS.
SHE LOVED HER POSITION.
AS YOU SAID, BILL, SHE WAS FIERCE IN HOW SHE ATTACKED THE NEWS.
AND EVERYBODY ADMIRED HER AND EVERYTHING SHE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.
>> IF VIEWERS DON'T REMEMBER, SHE WAS MURDERED BY HER HUSBAND AND HE WENT TO PRISON AND HE DIED IN PRISON.
HE DIED IN 2021.
>> QUICK STORY; WHEN WE WERE AT THE SUPER BOWL IN 1999 AND WE WERE THERE SATURDAY NIGHT AND I SAID, LIKE, HEY, LET'S CRASH THE FOX PARTY.
AND I WAS THINKING SHE WAS GOING TO SAY OH, COME ON.
LET'S GO!
>> LET'S GO.
>> AND TWO OF THE RAM'S FANS THAT WE MET.
WE GOT INTO THE PARTY.
WE WERE HAVING A GREAT TIME.
SHE WAS ON THE AIR AND SHE IS SUPER SUNDAY MORNING AND SHE WAS ON THE AIR AT 6 O'CLOCK.
>> BRIGHT AS CAN BE.
>> BRIGHT AS CAN BE.
YEP.
AND WHO AM I?
>> AND YOU WERE WEARING SUNGLASSES.
>> THANKS FOR THE GREAT WORDS ON NAN.
>>> THE HEADS OF BJ C AND WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY WILL NOT CHANGE MEDICAL PROCEDURES BUT CONDUCT A REVIEW OF THE TRANSGENDER CENTER AT CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL.
ABOUT THIS TIME LAST WEEK, A WHISTLEBLOWER BY THE NAME OF JAMIE REED CAME OUT WITH AN EXPLOSIVE ARTICLE THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE FREE PRESS, SAYS THE KIDS WHO ARE TRANSITIONING ARE DOING SO AFTER A REVIEW BY THERAPISTS, THAT THEY SUFFER IRRELEVANT REVERSIBLE NOT REVERSIBLE PAINFUL PROBLEMS.
THESE ARE ALLEGATIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE BY THE WOMAN WHO WORKED THERE WHO IDENTIFIES AS A QUEER WOMAN MARRIED TO ATRANSMAN.
>> I TALKED TO A YOUNGSTER WHO WENT THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND SAID HER NOW SON WENT THROUGH TWO YEARS OF COUNSELING, NOTHING WAS RUSHED AND THE TRANSITION AT WASH U SAVED THE MAN'S LIFE BECAUSE HE WAS SUICIDAL.
DO YOU THINK OF THE LEADERS DID THE RIGHT THING BY SAYING, OKAY, WE ARE NOT STOPPING THE PROCEDURES?
>> I THINK THEY DID THE ONLY THEY COULD DO.
BUT, I WOULD KIND OF HOPE FOR A BROADER INVESTIGATION RATHER THAN JUST AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION.
BECAUSE, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT, OKAY, WHEN I HEARD THE ALLEGATIONS, OKAY THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT IS OPPOSED TO THE WORK BEING DONE AT THE PROGRAM.
SHE DOESN'T IDENTIFY HERSELF AS A QUEER WOMAN, BUT A PROGRESSIVE QUEER WOMAN THAT IS MARRIED TO ATRANS-MAN.
THAT LENDS CREDIT.
THE FEW OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE QUOTED SAY THEY ALL KNEW HER AND THEY WERE SHOCKED THAT THEY WOULD DO SOMETHING.
PUTTING IT ALL ON HER.
AND WHAT SHE WAS ALLEGING THAT, AS YOU SAID, NOW OF A CURSERY GLANCE AND SHE WAS UPSET THAT THERE WERE DISAGREEMENTS AMONG THE PARENTS THAT WERE NOT RESOLVED.
I UNDERSTAND AT THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS AND THE ENDOCRINE SAY THAT -- THE BLOCKING AND THE GROWING PERIOD.
I JUST -- I JUST I AM SORRY, I'M STAMPERING.
>> I HOPE THEY GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
NO MATTER WHAT WASH U COMES UP WITH, BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR PROGRAM.
AND THE AG'S OFFICE AND JOSH HAWLEY, NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY, THEY WILL SAY -- >> AGENDA.
>> -- IT IS ALL POLITICAL.
WE MAY NEVER KNOW THE TRUTH OF WHAT IS GOING ON.
>> WHEN YOU SAY THERE ARE TWO SIDES OF EVERY STORY AND THE TRUTH IS IN THE MIDDLE.
I THINK THAT IS THIS TOO.
AND I TOUCHED ON MY THOUGHTS.
THESE ARE HEALTH ISSUES.
AND FAMILIES, THESE ARE NOT POLITICAL ISSUES.
>> RIGHT.
>> THAT'S WHAT IT IS TURNING INTO.
IN SOME SENSE, THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO IT.
IT HAS SOME KIND OF LIKE NATIONAL ANGLE, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON.
>> SHE SAID IF YOU VOICE A CONCERN, YOU A LABELLED -- AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT SHE IS SAYING -- YOU HAVE YET TO BE PROVEN.
WITHIN THE CULTURE OF THE CLINIC, IF YOU RAISE A CONCERN, YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY BRANDED, YOU ARE TRANS PHOBIC.
>> I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT IN THE CULTURE WAR.
I AGREE WITH YOU; I DON'T THINK THE PERSON SHOULD BE VILIFIED FOR THIS.
FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE INSTITUTION ITSELF, WHICH I RESPECT, TO DO AN INVESTIGATION MAKES SENSE.
IT MOST CLEARLY CANNOT BE, YOU KNOW, THE POLITICAL CLASS IN THIS CASE.
>> NO.
>> THE PUBLIC -- I WILL SAY IN ADVANCE, THAT ANYTHING THAT COMES FROM JOSH HAWLEY OR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, AUTOMATICALLY HAS NO CREDIBILITY.
AT THE SAME TIME, IF THERE WERE A PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION OF OTHERS, I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
>> THANK YOU, RAY.
>> ALVIN, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CONTROVERSY IN JEFFERSON.
THERE WERE A GROUP OF PROTESTERS WHO WENT ON THE STEPS OF THE STATE HOUSE ON THE DAY BEFORE AND PROTESTING THE FACT THAT KEVIN WINDAM WHO IS A REPRESENTATIVE IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY WAS READING A NEWSPAPER DURING A DEBATE ABOUT THE MEASURE THAT WOULD TAKE SOME OF THE PROSECUTOR POWER AND GIVE THEM TO THE GOVERNOR.
AND ONE OF HIS COLLEAGUES OBJECTED, SAYING HE IS NOT ADDRESSING THE BILL.
AND THEN HE CONTINUED AND IN A RARE MOVE, HIS MIC WAS CUT OFF.
AND SOMEONE ELSE INVOKED PREVIOUS QUESTION AND ALL OF THE DEBATE WAS CUT OFF AND THERE WERE THREE AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO WANTED TO SPEAK AND DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO THAT.
DO THEY HAVE A POINT?
>> THEY VERY MUCH HAVE A POINT.
IT IS A JUST OVERWHELMING MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.
THEY HAVE TO VOTE TO DO ANYTHING THEY WANT AND THEY LIKE TO BULLY PEOPLE.
THIS IS A GROUP, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE BLACK ARE REFUSED TO BE BULLIED.
HOW DO YOU STOP THIS?
MAYBE GET INVOLVED NOT JUST THE RACISM IN ST. LOUIS AND HOUSE RACES AROUND THE STATE AND POUR OUR RESOURCES TO FLIP THE SEAT.
I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO, HOW MANY DOORS YOU HAVE TO KNOCK ON.
BUT MAKE YOUR PRESENCE ACROSS THE STATE.
IF HE WAS NOT CUT OFF, HE WAS SINGING THE PRAISES OF KIM GARDNER THEY WOULD LET HIM KEEP TALKING.
THEY DID NOT WANT TO HEAR WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT IN MISSISSIPPI, THAT'S WHERE THE LEGISLATORS, THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.
THAT'S WHERE THIS WHOLE THING, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.
IT MAY BE TRUE.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.
>> LET'S NOT FORGET, SOMEONE, WHO HAS A NAME THAT CUT THEM OFF.
THAT'S DEAN, WHO IS FROM HERE AND DEAN IS GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE WHO HE IS.
DEAN BLOHAS A REPUTATION OF A MODERATE GUY, REASONABLE GUY, AND RECOIL IF SOMEONE SAID HE WAS RACIST.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT HE IS.
IF THIS WAS AN ACT OF UNCUT -- >> CAN I JUMP IN?
>> LET ME FINISH.
I WILL SAY THIS; DEAN HAS A VERY DIFFICULT LINE WALKING THE LINE BETWEEN THE NUTS IN HIS PARTY AND WHAT SEEMS TO BE A MODERATE GUY, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
I HAVE A PROBLEM.
>> KEVIN SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SPEAK.
IT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME.
I LEARNED TODAY, DEB LAVENDER, THIS HAPPENED TO HER SOME TIME BACK.
THERE WERE THREE REPRESENTATIVES WAITING TO SPEAK.
I AM TOLD THAT YOU CALL THAT PREVIOUS QUESTION, PREVIOUS QUESTIONS STOPS THE DEBATE.
HUNDREDS OF TIMES THERE ARE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS WITH THEIR HANDS UP WAITING TO SPEAK.
YOU WATCH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENS.
I DON'T THINK THE THREE REPRESENTATIVES HAVE A BEEF.
EVEN THOUGH REPUBLICANS SAY CRAZY STUFF WHEN THEY HAVE THE MIC, THINK HE WAS BREAKING THE RULES YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE BILL AND HE WAS READING A NEWSPAPER.
HE WAS NOT ADDRESSING THE BILL AT HAND.
>> I WOULD ARGUE HE WAS SAYING, SERIOUSLY, YOU ALL?
DO YOU WANT TO BE THIS?
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON NOW, MAKES US THIS.
>> MAKES US MISSISSIPPI.
>> EXACTLY.
THIS MAKES US MISSISSIPPI.
>> HE WAS ADDRESSING THE BILL.
>> I WILL STICK -- >> BY THE WAY, I'M NOT SO -- I'M NOT THROWING THE RACIST CARD OUT THERE.
I QUESTION THE MOTIVES OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE.
WHAT DRIVES THEM.
THIS WAS A TOTALLY, LIKE, YOU ARE DECLARING BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS MANY VOTES AND YOU ARE SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR.
>> TIME IS LIMITED.
>> BILL, I WILL ASK YOU ABOUT BROADCASTER DAN MCLAUGHLIN CAME OUT WITH A COLUMN HE SHARED ON TWITTER.
SAYING THAT HE HAS BEEN SUFFERING FROM DEPRESSION AND ALCOHOLISM AND THAT EXPLAINS WHY HE WAS ARRESTED FOR THE THIRD TIME FOR DRUNK DRIVING.
HE OF SHOULD SAID I SHOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN INTO AN AUTOMOBILE, AND PLEASE, USE UBER, LYFT.
HE DIDN'T GO THERE.
WOULD YOU REVISE THE COLUMN?
>> I WOULDN'T LET HIM WRITE A COLUMN IN THE FIRST PLACE IF I WAS GIVING HIM ADVICE.
THERE'S TOO MUCH OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO MINIMIZE THING.
IT WAS MEDICATION.
I WAS TAKING MEDICATION AND I HAD NOT EATEN FOR TWO DAYS AND THERE WAS A PROBLEM IN MY FAMILY THAT AFFECTED ME.
THIS IS A TIME JUST LAY LOW AND GET YOURSELF TOGETHER AND MAYBE THIS WAS APART OF HIS RECOVERY PROGRAM.
MAYBE SOMEBODY SUGGESTED IT.
I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD BE WRITING ANYTHING AND EXPLAINING THINGS FOR A WHILE.
I WOULD GET IT GO.
>> I AM WITH YOU ON THAT.
I WAS KIND OF SAD WHEN THE LAST -- AND THEN THERE WAS OTHER STORIES.
YOU ARE OKAY, HE IS GETTING ANOTHER CHANCE.
THIS ONE KIND OF -- IT WAS JUST A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RATIONALAZTI RATIONALAZTION.
WE TREAT PEOPLE THE SAME, DIFFERENTLY.
IF THIS IS OUR AVERAGE ST. LOUIS RESIDENT, NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR IT.
>> IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO HEAR HIM OR READ HIS STATEMENT AND TO SEE THAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT DEALING CAN CRIPPLING ANXIETY.
ANYBODY, AS AN ADULT, WITH HE ALL KNOW WHAT ANXIETY IS.
WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE FIELD THAT HE HAS CHOSEN.
AND MAYBE THE REALITIES OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED, MAYBE IT IS FINALLY COMING DOWN ON HIM.
AND I PRAY FOR HIS RECOVERY AND HIS PEACE.
BUT, THIS IS, HE IS IN THE INFANCY OF HIS RECOVERY PROCESS.
AND EVERYTHING ELSE HAS TO WAIT.
AND I AGREE WITH BILL.
THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE ENGAGED IN THE ARENA THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, PLAY -- PLAYED A ROLE IN THE FACT THAT HE FELT HIMSELF SLIPPING OF 10 YEARS OF SOBRIETY.
HE HAS TO TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF, HIS FAMILY, AND HIS HEALTH AND DEAL WITH THE REST OF THIS LATER, WHETHER THAT THE HERE, WHETHER IT IS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IN MY OPINION.
>> WHEN THIS CAME UP, I THOUGHT HE STILL HAS A FUTURE IN WHAT HE DOES.
I DO.
HE IS A HUGELY TALENTED.
AND IT IS NOT PROBABLE, I THINK HE HAS A FUTURE AND A FUTURE YEAR.
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE, IT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME AMOUNT OF TIME I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, AND AS A FRIEND, I WISH HIM THE BEST.
BUT THIS IS NOT THE TIME -- THIS IS THE TIME HEAL -- >> GET BETTER, YEAH.
>> HEAL.
AND THIS IS NOT THE TIME, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING CAN BE SAID NOW CAN HELP HIS CAUSE OR HURT IT PARTICULARLY.
I THINK IT IS -- >> PEOPLE ARE WILLING FORGIVE.
>> I THINK THEY ARE.
THIS IS NOT THE MOMENT.
>> ME INCLUDED.
>> RIGHT.
>> FROM WHAT I READ ON TWITTER AND THE REACTION, MOST PEOPLE SEEM TO BE SUPPORTING HIM.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU, HOWEVER, RAY, HE IS THE CEO OF EMERSON, WHICH IS ANOTHER 500 COMPANY, AND 24 ON THE LIST AND HE IS THE CEO IN ABOUT TWO YEARS AND COME OUT AND WARN ST. LOUIS THAT IT HAS TO AMEND ITS WAYS.
IN AN OP-ED PIECE SAYING THAT ST. LOUIS HAS TO GET ITS ACT TOGETHER WITH WITH REGARD TO CRIME AND JOBS AND EDUCATION.
CAN'T DISAGREE WITH THAT, CAN YOU?
>> NO.
AND IN OTHER NEWS, WATER IS WET.
>> EXACTLY.
>> GOOD FOR HIM THAT AT ONE POINT HE SAID RIGHT UP AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, IT WASN'T THAT LONG OF A PIECE AND IT WASN'T PARTICULARLY DEEP.
HE SAID WE WILL NOT ASK NOR ACCEPT CORPORATE WELFARE -- >> SUBSIDIES.
>> SUBSIDIES.
GOOD FOR HIM.
AND GOOD FOR EMERSON THAT THEY ARE STAYING.
IT IS KIND OF A THIRD PERSON THING WHERE HE IS OBSERVING THIS FROM AFAR.
HE IS APART AND EMERSON HAS BEEN GOING BACK AS FAR AS THE LATE CHUCK KNIGHT HAD DIFFERENCES WITH THEM FOUR DECADES AGO.
THEY HAVE BEEN APART OF THIS.
AND FOR THEM TO TALK IN A DETACHED FASHION.
I LOVE ST. LOUIS, BUT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.
>> GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER.
>> WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WE IN THIS?
I WOULD SAY THIS; IF THE CORPORATE COMMUNITY AND JASON HALL, ANDY TAYLOR, IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT CRIME, ALL OF THESE MULTIBILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS, THEY ACT LIKE THEY ARE POWERLESS TO GET SOMETHING DONE THERE AND GET THE -- HOW DO YOU WANT TO SAY?
NOT SO FRIENDLY LEGISLATION YOU'RE TO LET ST. LOUIS -- LEGISLATURE TO LET IT ADDRESS ITS GUN PROBLEM.
>> TALK IS CHEAP.
>> THIS IS THE START OF SOMETHING.
RATHER THAN BE CRITICAL OF THE CEO FOR SAYING THE TRUTH.
IT IS GREAT.
LET'S START FROM HERE.
>> BUT DON'T YOU THINK, BILL, IT IS UNUSUAL WHEN THE CEO OF EMERSON, THAT SENT JOBS FROM MISSOURI TO ASIA.
THEY HAVE THREE DOZEN PLANTS THERE.
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR FOUR DECADES AND THEN HE COMPLAINS ABOUT THE CRIME.
>> I PREDICTED THREE WEEKS AGO THAT THERE WERE LEAVING TOWN.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> WE NEED TO BE NICE TO THEM NOW?
RIGHT.
>> GOOD.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU STAND.
FOR YOURS, YOU WERE -- YOU THOUGHT THAT THE CIVIC PROGRESS GUYS, THE CEO'S WERE TOO INVOLVED.
>> I NEVER SAID THERE WERE TOO INVOLVED.
>> EXCUSE ME!
>> OH, COME ON!
.
>> NOW -- [ALL TALKING AT ONCE].
>> THEY HAD TOO POWER.
>> TOO LITTLE REGARD FOR THE IMPORTANCE OF ANYBODY THAT WASN'T A RICH, WHITE BUSINESS GUY.
YES.
AS FAR AS TOO INVOLVED, NO THERE WERE INVOLVED IN THE WRONG WAY.
IN THIS CASE THEY CHECKED OUT AND BASICALLY -- >> HARDLY.
>> THE GUY GAVE 200 MILLION DOLLARS TO EDUCATION.
>> WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN?
WE HAVE VERY, VERY POWERFUL BLACK MAN IN DAVID STEWART WHO IS RIGHT UP THERE.
IF HE JOINED IN 10 WHITE MEN IN CHARGE OF THE MULTICOMPANIES, EVEN IF THEIR MAIN OFFICES ARE NOT HERE.
OKAY, THE GUNS, MAYBE WE CAN'T FIX THAT.
THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THE ST. LOUIS CITY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ST. LOUIS AND NORTH COUNTY.
THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
WE WILL THROW WHATEVER WE NEED TO REDUCE CLASS SIZE, HAVING SECURITY IN EVERY SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, JUST CLEANING UP THE STREETS THAT THE SCHOOL IS ON.
WE WILL DO THIS IN EVERY SCHOOL IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.
AND THAT WILL BE A FIRST STEP.
>> OKAY.
>> CHARLIE?
>> WE CAN DO THAT WITH KROENKE MONEY.
WHERE DOES IT GO?
IT GOES TO THE CENTER.
IT GOES TO THE CONVENTION CENTER AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SECURITY IN SCHOOLS OR THE HOMELESS IN SHELTERS.
WHY BLAME BUSINESS?
WHEN THE LEADERS CAN DO SOMETHING!
>> I'M NOT SAYING THAT.
THE BUSINESS LEADERS CAN GET TOGETHER AND YOU CAN COUGH UP 20 MILLION DOLLARS OR YOU CAN'T GO TO THE GOLF CLUB.
[LAUGHTER.]
.
>> I WON'T BE AT THE GOLF CLUB.
>> SET A NUMBER, LET US, OUR COMPANY, OUR WEALTH COME TOGETHER, PUT IT TOGETHER, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR KROENKE MONEY.
>> WE WILL PUT -- >> I'M STILL NOT -- I'M SORRY, WITH THE SORT OF COKE-HEADED NATURE, WE LOVE IT HERE AND WE HAVE CHOSEN TO RAISE OUR FAMILIES HERE.
BUT IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR ACTS TOGETHER WE WILL LOOK AT OUR FUTURE EXCLA.
>> WHO DOESN'T FEEL THAT WAY?
>> YOU SAID, THEY ARE THE LEADERS AND THEY SHOULD BE DECISIVE.
WE ARE HERE NO MATTER WHAT.
BUT WE HAVE TO ACT.
>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CORPORATE LEAD RS WHEN RAY WAS ATTACKING HIM -- >> LEADERS.
>> YOU KNOW.
>> THEY ALL LEFT [LAUGHTER.]
>> AND NOW WE ARE -- >> THEY WERE HERE AND THE BLUES WERE GOING TO LEAVE AND THE CEO, HAL DEAN, WE'LL KEEP THEM HERE.
NOW, YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT HEAD QUOTED.
>> EMERSON IS HERE.
>> EMERSON HERE.
>> THEY HAVE BEEN A GREAT CORPORATE CITIZEN.
LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
EMERSON IS A GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN WHEN IT IS, BUT THE PROBLEM IS, JUST FOR THESE PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT CRIME, I WANT TO SEE FIVE OR SIX -- >> IT IS EFFECTING ALL OF US.
>> I WANT TO SEE THE TOP 6 CEOS ON JEFFERSON CITY ON THE SUBJECT OF GUNS IF THEY ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT CRIME.
THAT'S SEE HOW THE BAD GUYS RESPOND TO THOSE GUYS.
>> LET'S WRAP THINGS UP ON KANSAS CITY.
THE CHIEFS WIN THE SUPER BOWL.
ONE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE WATCHING THEM DO THAT.
THIS YEAR, SPRINGSTEEN IS GOING TO KANSAS CITY, AND TAYLOR SWIFT IS GOING THERE.
>> THE DRAFT.
>> THE DRAFT.
>> ARE THEY KICKING OUR TAILOR WHAT?
>> THEY HAVE TOTALLY KICKED OUR TAIL.
SOMETIMES YOU ARE THE WINDSHIELD AND SOMETIMES YOU ARE THE BUG.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> RIGHT NOW WE ARE THE BUG.
BUT IT IS STILL HOME.
>> IF YOU WANT TO GET TO FRANKFORT, YOU DON'T GO THROUGH KANSAS CITY.
>> ST. LOUIS HAS 76 NONSTOPS AND KANSAS HAS 46.
AND NONE TO EUROPE.
>> AS FAR AS BASEBALL, THERE'S NO CONTEST.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
>> I AM ADOPTED CHIEF'S FAN AND I AM EXCITED THEY WON.
>> WE WON.
>> WE WON.
>> AND READING THE KANSAS CITY STAR ONLINE, I WILL SAY, THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER IS NOT BOURNE OUT BY THE DAILY NEWS OF KANSAS CITY.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME PROBLEMS DO.
>> THAT'S IT, RAY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> YOU CAN WRITE THOSE E-MAILS LETTERS, ABOUT RAY'S COMMENTS AND SEND THEM TO US.
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>> STATEMENT, CALL 512-9094.
>> 9094!
.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> YOU CAN LISTEN TO US AS I DID THIS PAST WEEK ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCAST.
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>> THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK'S FIRST HALF.
STAY TUNED.
SENATORS BILL EIGEL AND TRACY MCCREERY WILL TALK ABOUT JEFFERSON CITY WITH BILL AND RAY AND THAT'S NEXT ON NEXT UP.
HAVE A GOOD ONE!
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