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>>> JOINING FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DID IT.

WE GOT THROUGH ALL OF THE SNOW THAT WAS PREDICTED BY THE METEOROLOGISTS.

THANK YOU, WEATHERMEN FOR HELPING US OUT.

>>> LET'S MEET THE TALENTED PANELISTS.

WENDY WIESE FROM THE BIG 550 COHOST OF THE JENNIFER AND WENDY SHOW.

BILL MCCLELLAN FROM YOUR ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH STL TODAY.COM.

WENDY WIESE FROM THE BIG 550 COHOST OF THE JENNIFER AND WENDY SHOW.

BILL MCCLELLAN FROM YOUR ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH STL TODAY.COM.

>> BY THE WAY, WE HAVE NEW ARTWORK, IT IS FROM BEN KELLY.

ON THE SECOND HALF OF THE PROGRAM, WE WILL BE JOINED BY THE BROADCASTING MOUNT RUSHMOORE HERE IN ST. LOUIS.

IF THERE ARE THREE GREAT BROADCASTERS, THEY ARE THERE FOR SURE.

THEY ARE UP WITH ALVIN AND WENDY.

>>> BILL, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A CASE IN THE COURTROOM OF JUDGE JASON, THAT COULD HAVE HUGE IMPLICATION S, BECAUSE 6 PLAINTIFFS WHO SUED TO COLLECT THEIR EARNING TAX WHEN THEY WORKED REMOTELY WERE SUCCESSFUL.

THE JUDGE SAID IF YOU DIDN'T WORK IN THE CITY DURING THE PANDEMIC, YOU CAN CALL BACK THE EARNER'S TAX THAT YOU PAID.

IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, ALL RESIDENTS AND WORKERS PAY A 1 PERCENT EARNINGS TAX THAT IS ABOUT 150 MILLION DOLLARS YEAR.

AND NOW LAWYERS ARE SAYING THAT THERE MAY BE A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME, WE WERE WORKING REMOTELY DURING THE PANDEMIC.

WE MAY BE QUALIFIED FOR BIG BUCKS.

WHAT DID YOU THINK?

>> I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THIS AND THE ATTORNEY FOR THIS.

IF YOU LIVE ANYWHERE AROUND THE CITY AND SOMETIMES WORK IN IT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WORK IT IN, YOU SHOULD BE PLEASED TO PAY THE EARNINGS TAX.

YOU EXPECT POLICE PROTECTION, YOU DON'T WANT POTHOLES AND THE IDEA THAT WE WILL DARN-NEAR BANKRUPT THE CITY AND TAKE OUT MILLIONS FROM THE CITY, I JUST DON'T GET IT.

AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DECLINE THE CITY.

IF THE CITY GOES DOWN, THE WHOLE AREA GOES DOWN.

I'M UNHAPPY ABOUT THE LAWSUIT.

>> I DIDN'T GO TO LAWSUIT.

THE ONLY FIVE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT ARE IN THIS SIDEWAYS ARE US.

[LAUGHTER.]

YOU KNOW, WE ARE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE SCALE.

I THINK A JUDGE TO RULE ANOTHER WAY, QUITE FRANKLY.

IF IT IS LIKE THAT, I DON'T GET THIS.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A RIGHT TO THAT MONEY LEGALLY.

I KNOW -- I KNOW EVERY LEGAL SCHOLAR IS SAYING YOU ARE WRONG.

I JUST DON'T GET IT.

>> IT IS NOT LEGALLY, IT IS MORALLY.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

>> IT IS FUNNY, WHEN YOU HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE RAMS AND THEIR DEPARTURE, WE ARE IN PLAYOFF FOOTBALL TIME, MY APOLOGIZES.

I'M SORRY.

C C SYMPATHY.

I'M SORRY.

I'M A COWBOY'S FAN.

WE HAD A FOOTBALL TEAM TO ROOT FOR.

EVERYONE SAYS THAT KROENKE KICKED US WHILE WE WERE DOWN, KICKED US IN THE HEAD WHEN WE WERE ALREADY DOWN.

THAT'S THE POINT THAT BILL IS MAKING.

THE CITY IS NOT HAVING ITS BEST AT THIS MOMENT.

WHERE EVERYBODY, THE CARDINALS, THE ARCH, EVERYTHING THAT DOWNTOWN REPRESENTS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT MATTERS TO I, ME, MINE ANYMORE.

THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IT.

IT HAS TO BE A MISTAKE.

WE NEED TO BE ROOTING FOR THE CITY EVEN IF WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.

>> I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE PANDEMIC AND PEOPLE THAT WERE PHYSICALLY HERE.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THE CITY EARNINGS TAX IS AN EASY TARGET FOR PEOPLE.

IT IS WAY OVER RATED FOR A FACTOR.

THERE WAS A BANKER -- I FORGET.

>> HE MOVED HIS OFFICE TO THE CLAYTON BRANCH SO HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY.

>> HE DOESN'T HAVE DESERVE TO HAVE HIS NAME CITY.

>> I MOVED FROM ONE BUILDING.

PEOPLE SAID YOU DID IT FOR THE -- IT NEVER CAME UP -- >> CAN I JUMP IN HERE?

>> -- IT IS A REASONABLE TAX.

WENDY BRINGS UP THE RAMS.

AS JOHN, THE PROFESSOR, FOUND OUT THAT THE RAMS PRORATED THEIR EARNINGS TAX TO 10 OVER 265 WHEN THEY WERE EARTH CITY OR AT HOME LIFTING WEIGHTS THEY DIDN'T PAY THE EARNINGS TAX.

WHEN CARDINALS PLAY IN BOSTON, THEY WILL NOT PLAY THE EARNINGS TAX.

IF YOU DON'T WORK IN THE CITY, YOU DON'T PAY IT.

>> THE CITY PAYS IT.

>> THE PLAYERS DO.

>> THAT'S WHY IT IS A GOOD TAX.

>> IF YOU ARE NOT IN THE CITY, AND IF THEY NEED THE TAXES SO MUCH, THEY HAVE TO STOP GIVING TAX BREAKS TO THOSE WHO ARE BUILDING AND STOP GIVING TAX BREAKS.

AND START BOPUTTING BOOTS ON CARS THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE -- THAT ARE NOT PAYING SALES TAX.

>> I ALMOST LOST THE FRONT END OF MY CAR BECAUSE OF POTHOLES.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

>> THEY DON'T ANSWER THE 911.

>> -- BUS STOP.

IT IS A FAIR TAX.

>> ALVIN, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A SCHOOL DISTRICT GOING TO FOUR DAYS, FOX, 13 MILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE DOING THIS.

THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT GOING TO FOUR DAYS A WEEK.

WITH OUR TEST SCORES, WE SHOULD BE GOING SIX DAYS A WEEK.

>> THIS IS THE BEST WAY FOR US TO BUDGET GET THROUGH A SCHOOL YEAR AND OFFER THE KIND OF EDUCATION THAT WE FILL AS STANDARD, ONCE AGAIN, I CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

OUR FRIENDS IN JEFFERSON CITY HAS A REACTION WHEN IT IS HAZELWOOD, AND IT IS DIFFERENT WHEN IT IS A FOX -- >> JEFFERSON COUNTY.

>> JEFFERSON COUNTY.

THEY HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.

IT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE SAME WAY.

I'M NOT SURE OUR LEGISLATORS ARE READY TO DO THAT.

IT WILL HELP ALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS TAKE THE STIGMA AWAY FROM GOING FOUR DAYS.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S A CORRELATION AT LEAST THAT I KNOW FROM THREE AND FIVE DAYS AND TEST SCORES.

EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT SHOULD KNOW WHAT IS BEST EDUCATIONAL FOR THEIR KIDS.

I DON'T WANT TO JUDGE IT.

>> REALLY?

>> IF WE WORK FOUR DAYS A WEEK.

>> MOST COUNTRIES WORK FOUR DAYS A WEEK.

>> RAY, DON'T YOU THINK, AS A KID, YOU LEARN MORE GOING TO SCHOOL FIVE DAYS THAN YOU DO GOING FOUR DAYS?

>> ARE YOU JOKING?

>> THAT'S MATH.

>> NO.

>> IN ASIA THEIR KIDS GO TO SCHOOL SIX DAYS A WEEK.

>> AND YOU GET A 50 CENTS AN HOUR WASN'T WHEN YOU GET OUT.

>> I DON'T THINK THE NUMBER OF HOURS, IT IS A QUALITY OF THE EDUCATION THAT MATTERS.

I WOULD SAY.

AND MAYBE ON FOUR DAYS DO THEY GO THE SAME NUMBER OF HOURS?

>> WILL THEY PAY TEACHERS MORE?

>> MAYBE.

>> MAYBE IF IT IS A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

>> THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED.

>> IT IS A MONEY SAVING THING.

>> IF THE FIFTH DAY IS VISUAL OR THE NUMBER DAYS.

CAN KIDS NOW GO TO SCHOOL PHYSICALLY MORE THAN WHEN WE WENT.

WE WENT FIVE DAYS A WEEK, AND WALKED IN THE SNOW BOTH WA WAYS -- >> WITHOUT SHOES.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> AND NOW THEY ARE COUNTING IT BY HOURS.

THEY WILL LENGTHEN THE HOURS.

I BELIEVE IN THE 10 THOUSAND HOURS.

IF YOU WANT TO BE A GREAT HOCKEY PLAYER, YOU HAVE TO PRACTICE FOR 10 THOUSAND HOURS OR PLAYING A CLARINET.

>> IF WE DON'T HAVE THE BODIES, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PRODUCE THEM?

IN A LABORATORY.

>> WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, THEY HAD MY ATTENTION FOR A FEW HOURS.

[LAUGHTER.]

.

>> THAT'S ANOTHER MATTER.

>>> JOSH HAWLEY, HAS JOINED MARCO RUBIO AND CALLING FOR A NATIONWIDE BAN ON TIKTOTIKTOK.

BECAUSE OF NATIONAL SECURITY.

THERE IS THE GOVERNMENT THAT JAILS HONG KONG PROTESTERS AND THEIR LAWYERS AND GENOCIDE AGAINST MUSLIMS AND INCARCERATED ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOPS.

AND MAYBE AFTER UKRAINE, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE CARDIOVASCULAR WITH THESE TYPES OF REGIMES.

>> THE DIRECTOR OF FBI AGREES AND HE THINKS IT IS THE TROJAN HOURS AND SPYING.

TIKTOK IS ONE OF THOSE APPS THAT I THINK IT HAS PROVIDED AMERICANS WITH A REAL LAUGH WHEN THEY NEEDED IT DURING THE PANDEMIC.

I WOULD HEAR, I CAN HEAR PEOPLE, WHETHER IT IS AT WORK IN MY OWN HOUSE, THAT THEY ARE LAUGHING AND LAUGHING AT TIC TOX.

I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE TROJAN HOURS.

IF SENATOR HAWLEY IS TRYING TO BUILD A POLITICAL BASE, THIS MAY BE A RATHER WEIRD WAY OF DOING IT.

ON A NATIONAL LEVEL.

BECAUSE IT IS A VERY POPULAR -- THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT CHINA.

WE ALL HAVE IPHONES AND OTHER DEVICES THAT HAVE THE SAME KIND OF BACK DOORS, ISSUE, RIGHT?

>> IT IS RIDICULOUS.

FROM THE STANDPOINT OF FREE SPEECH, EXPRESSION.

IT IS STUPID.

IN ADDITION, IT IS INTERESTING YOU SAY POLITICS.

I DON'T THINK IT IS 99 PERCENT POLITICS.

IT IS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.

IT IS TRYING TO POSITION HIMSELF FOR 2024 FOR PRESIDENT OR VICE PRESIDENT.

I DON'T VIEW AS JOSH HAWLEY AS HAVING GOOD FAITH ABOUT ANYTHING.

HE IS CONSTANTLY, BEATING UP, TRYING TO MAKE HIMSELF THE ANTI-TECH GUY AND ANTI-CHINA GUY.

IT WILL FLIP IN A MOMENT.

IT IS UNFAIR FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ENJOY TIKTOK.

>> I HAVE NEVER HAVING ENJOYED AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACCESS IT.

AS FAR AS PRIVACY GOES, THAT HORSE HAS LEFT THE BARN.

WE DON'T HAVE PRIVACY.

>> EXACTLY.

>> THEY KNOW WHAT YOU WATCH, WHAT YOU LIKE.

>> WHAT YOU ARE GOING SHOPPING FOR.

>> YEAH.

THAT WE'LL STOP THIS BY CLOSING DOWN TIKTOK.

I WISH IT WERE SO.

BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> MR. HAWLEY, AMERICA FIRST.

THOSE ARE AMERICANS THAT ARE ON THERE.

THE AMERICANS HAVE NO IDEA AND YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND.

WAIT; THEY CHOSE TO SEE TIKTOK.

>> I THINK HE IS ON TO SOMETHING.

I REALLY DO.

THERE IS A WELL-WRITTEN PIECE ABOUT ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION.

IT IS RELATED TO TIKTOK.

I LIKE THAT PHRASE; TROJAN HORSE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

WE DON'T WANT OUR OWN GOVERNMENT TO HAVE OUR OWN PRIVATE INFORMATION.

LET ALONE ANOTHER GOVERNMENT.

>> DIDN'T YOU WANT TO ARREST PEOPLE FOR PUTTING UP LAWN CHAIRS FOR THE FOURTH OF JULY PARADE.

I DON'T MEAN TO ACTUAL YOU DEBBY-DOWNER.

[LAUGHTER.]

>>.

>> I HAVE HAD MY UNUSUAL OPINIONS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> WE HAVE HAD COMMERCIAL SURVEILLANCE GOING TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

>> DO YOU THINK THAT THE INTERNET GOT GOING IN AMERICA, THAT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAD BEENITY BEEN COLLECTS -- BEEN COLLECTING ON EVERY ONE OF US?

>> IT IS TRUE.

IT IS REPORTED IN THE NEW YORK TIMES.

AND ELSEWHERE!

.

>> WE DIDN'T LIKE IT WHEN GEORGE BUSH WAS GOING IT.

>> WE HAVE CAMERAS EVERYWHERE NOW.

>> THE PEOPLE FROM CHINA -- COLLECTING INFORMATION FROM THEM.

DO WE THINK IN 2023 THAT WE'LL ISOLATE CHINA?

>> CHINA?

>> YOU SAID IT LIKE THE FORMER PRESIDENT.

MADE ME LAUGH.

>> CHINA!

>> THE TAKE OVER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE ETHICAL SOCIETY OF THE POLICE, WHICH AN ASSOCIATION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN POLICE OFFICERS JOINED THE PO A, THE ASSOCIATION, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME, AGREEING ON ONE THING.

THEY WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE -- THEY WON THE GOVERNOR TO TAKE CONTROL WHEN IT WENT FROM STATE CONTROL TO THE CITY.

AND NOW THE POLICE OFFICERS DON'T LIKE IT AND THEY WANT THE GOVERNOR TO BE IN CHARGE.

>> I THINK THEY ARE WRONG.

A LOT OF US, INCLUDING MYSELF, SUPPORTED LOCAL CONTROL, WERE ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH AND NOT REALIZED THAT THERE SHOULD BE A POLICE BOARD MUCH LIKE APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR BEFORE.

I DO THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A POLICE BOARD AND NOT HAVE A STRUCTURE WHERE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR.

IT IS EVERY BIT OF POLITICAL AND WILL BE FOREVER IF THE STATE CONTROLS IT, IT WILL NOT REMOVE ANY POLITICS OR THE CHALLENGES THAT ST. LOUIS HAS ABOUT CRIME.

NO, WE NEED TO HAVE A LOCALLY-CONTROLLED POLICE DEPARTMENT.

>> I DISAGREE WITH YOU.

I USED TO BE IN FAVOR OF LOCAL CONTRACT.

WHEN I SAW THE ETHICAL SOCIETY AND THE POLICE ASSOCIATION, BOTH OF THEM SAYING I KNOW WHAT IS BEST AND WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST AND WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE OLD SYSTEM.

WELL, I THOUGHT, THEY DO KNOW WHAT IS BEST.

THE ONLY SYSTEM, THE GOVERNOR WOULD APPOINT THE MEMBERS OF THE POLICE COMMISSION AND THEY WOULD SELECT THE POLICE CHIEF.

AND THE BUSINESSMEN COULD BE COUNTED ON, THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE LID ON THINGS.

AND THE LID IS OFF THINGS NOW.

THINGS ARE CRAZY.

PEOPLE DRIVE 80 MILES PER HOUR DOWN THE ROADS AND I THINK IF THE POLICE WERE OUT THERE SAY, WE LIKE THE OLD SYSTEM BETTER.

I SAY, OKAY, I WILL SAY WHAT THE COPS ARE SAYING.

>> ASK ANY BLACK PERSON IF WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE OLD WAYS?

NO.

IT WASN'T WORKING.

WE HAVE A BLACK MAYOR NOW.

>> THE WHOLE WORLD -- >> AND THAT'S THE POINT.

THEY SHOULD DISBAND.

THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION.

THEY SERVE NO PURPOSE.

THEY ARE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR THE INTEREST OF THE BLACK POLICE OFFICERS OR ANYONE.

THIS IS NOT COOPERATION AND HE IS STANDING UP THERE WITH A GUY WHO HAS NO USE FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN ST. LOUIS OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

TAKING AWAY TEACHING BLACK HISTORY.

ASK HIM IF HE WILL VOTE ON ON REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AND BLACK RIGHTS AND IT IS SHAMEFUL.

>> IT IS THE ETHICAL SOCIETY.

THEY ARE BLACK OFFICERS AND THE POLICE ASSOCIATION.

THEY SAY THE NEW SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING.

I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO THEM.

>> I'M NOT.

>> THERE ARE CONSTITUENCIES.

THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE A CONSTITUENCY THEY ARE NOT THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY ON THERE ARE THE CITIZENS AND THOSE IN MANAGEMENT FOR THAT MATTER.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A HUGE MISTAKE, TO YOUR POINT, THIS IS A STRUCTURE THAT DATED BACK TO THE CONFEDERACY.

I THINK THAT ST. LOUIS NEEDS TO HAVE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY IN ITS POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT SHOULD HAVE BOTH -- I GUESS THERE'S A CITIZEN'S REVIEW BOARD AND DOESN'T DO MUCH.

THEY NEED A POLICE BOARD.

>> I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE THIRD RAIL AND I MAY COMBUST BEFORE YOUR EYES.

ARE WE EVER GOING -- I UNDERSTAND THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES THAT FACE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, BUT ARE WE EVER GOING TO MOVE BEYOND ONE VOICE?

WHEN IT COMES TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY?

CAN THERE NOT BE DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW.

>> THERE ARE MANY VOICES.

>> IT IS JUST WRONG.

WE CAN WRONG.

I CAN BE WRONG.

AND BY THE WAY, THIS IS ME, ALVIN REID, SPEAKING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT MANY BLACK POLICE OFFICERS.

HONESTLY, THIS KIND OF THING IS NOT HELPFUL TO THE CITY AND HELPFUL TO THE POLICE OFFICERS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WENDY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CONCERT IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.

IT WAS A DISASTER.

PEOPLE TRYING TO GET INTO THE CHRIS ROCK CONCERT HAD TO WAIT 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR TO GET IN.

THE CELL PHONES WERE BEING PUT IN A BAG SO IT COULDN'T BE USED WHILE THE CONCERT WAS GOING ON.

AND CHAPPELLE GOT ON STAGE FOUR HOURS LATER.

NO ONE SAID THAT HIS PLANE IS BEHIND SCHEDULE OR WHATEVER.

PEOPLE HAD TO LINE UP FOR TOO FEW WORKERS FOR RELEASING AND GETTING THEIR CELL PHONES.

THEY COULDN'T COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR LOVED ONES.

SHOULD PEOPLE GET A REFUND?

>> FIRST-WORLD PROBLEM?

IT IS, IT IS UNFORTUNATE.

BUT WHEN YOU ARE DEALING ENTERTAINERS, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.

THEY CAN, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT A CHALLENGE, GO TO A HANK WILLIAMS CONCERT.

HE MAY NOT SHOW UP FOR FOUR DAYS.

IT IS A RISK YOU TAKE.

YOU WANT TO SEE PEOPLE TO PERFORM.

THERE ARE HURDLES.

AND I THINK THE SEALED PHONE THING NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

IF I HAD BEEN THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD BE THROWING A FIT AND EXPECTING A REFUND.

IT IS UNFORTUNATE.

I'M SORRY.

BUT -- YOU KNOW.

>> THIS IS A CROWD THAT WAS PAYING 350 DOLLARS FOR A TICKET.

THE CROWD WAS, LIKE, I HAD TO WAIT IN LINE AND I COULDN'T GET MY PHONE.

I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE SHOW, BUT IT WAS A ROUGH NIGHT.

>> THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED HOME AND BEEN ON TIKTOK.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> GIVING ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION TO CHINA AND GIVING HAWLEY HIS PLATFORM.

>> WERE YOU PAID BACK?

>> WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE WRONG -- >> GOOD POINT.

>> -- THIS IS NOT THAT.

>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT KIAS.

ONE IS STATE FARM, I'M SORRY I FORGOT THE OTHERS.

THEY ARE NO LONGER GOING TO GIVE INSURANCE, TENNESSEE, TEXAS, ILLINOIS, MINNESOTA, MISSOURI, AND THERE IS ANOTHER ONE.

COLORADO.

THAT'S THE OTHER ONE.

NO INSURANCE FOR KIA OWNERS.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> WE CAN STOP BLAMING MAYOR JONES FOR THE THEFTS.

WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ON THIS ONE, I'M WITH THEM.

IF YOU BUY A CAR THAT IS EASILY STOLEN, THEY DO HAVE TO REACT TO THAT.

JUST LIKE YOU BUY A PRODUCT THAT IS DANGEROUS AND YOU KNOW THAT.

-- I STAND WITH THE INSURANCE.

>> I DISAGREE WITHSTA STANDING WITH THE INSURANCE.

ON ANYTHING.

THEY INSURE DIFFERENT THINGS ON DIFFERENT ITEMS, HOW NEW THE CAR IS, HOW EXPENSIVE THE CAR IS.

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO FACTOR IN THE STEALABLETY.

IF IT IS IN 6 OF 50 STATES, THAT MEANS STATES DON'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE CITIZENS BECAUSE THEY CAN, THEY SHOULD TAKE SOMEONE ELSE'S AUTOMOBILE.

>> IT IS A CRIME PROBLEM.

IN THE 44 STATES.

>> NOT TO THE EXTENT WE DO.

APPARENTLY.

>> WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY KIAS GET STOLEN IN NEW YORK CITY.

>> I RENTED A CAR AND IT WAS A KIA, I WAS GOING TO TUCSON.

I DON'T THINK, I SAID TO THE WOMAN, I DON'T THINK I WANT TO RENT THIS CAR.

KIAS ARE STOLEN.

SHE SAID IN PHOENIX THEY ARE NOT.

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID TO ME.

>> WENT I'M OUT OF TOWN, I SAY WE AIN'T GOT NO CRIME PROBLEM IN ST. LOUIS.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> THEY WOULD ADD ARIZONA TO THE LIST.

[ALL TALKING AT ONCE].

>> THE CRIME IS OFF THE CHARTS HERE AND NOT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

>> THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

>> OH, CHARLEY.

>> YOU THINK PHOENIX.

>> ONE AT A TIME.

>> IF I WERE A MEMBER OR REPRESENTING THE KIA COMPANY, I WOULD FEEL COME UPON.

ARE THEY PUTTING VIDEOS UP ANYWHERE ELSE ABOUT THEIR CAR AND THEIR WEAKNESSES?

>> THEY COULD MAKE THEIR CARS HARDER TO STEAL.

I MEAN, REALLY.

>> THAT COULD BE SAID OF ANY VICTIM OF CRIME.

OH -- >> YOU STEAL A CAR, YOU HAVE TO DRIVE IT AWAY.

>> YOU HAVE INSTRUCTIONS.

>> ON TIKTOK!

[LAUGHTER.]

>> I CAN GET THAT VIDEO AND I CAN STEAL A CAR.

GUESS WHAT?

I DON'T!

>> WELL, OKAY.

>> CHARLEY -- >> THANK YOU.

>> I CAN TELL -- I CAN GET A VIDEO THAT SHOWS HOW TO BLOW A BANK.

BUT YOU DON'T DO IT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

>> UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE OUT OF TIME.

WE HAVE TO GET TO THE LETTERS.

>> LET'S DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

>>> SHAWN HAYES IS UNREPENT BAD GUY.

WHY WAS HE ON DONNYBROOK?

THANK YOU, MR. MILLER.

>> WE HEARD FROM PAUL, IF YOU WANT TO IMPROVE DRIVING CONDITIONS ON I70 AND IMPRESS OUT OF STATE DRIVERS, WHY NOT REMOVE THE UNSLIGHTLY BILLBOARDS FROM ADVERTISING ADULT TOYS AND KICK-ARS TRUCKS.

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>> THAT CONCLUDES THE FIRST HALF.

DON JOHNSON, AND BETSY AND OTHERS WILL JOIN ALVIN AND WENDY ON NEXT UP.

SEE YOU NEXT WEEK!

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