Donnybrook
Donnybrook: July 20, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 49 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Bill McClellan, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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Donnybrook: July 20, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 49 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Bill McClellan, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POS THE BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEM NINE PBS.
>> Charlie: THANK YOU FOR OF DONNYBROOK.
GR AND WE HAVE A TON O TOPICS TO DISCUSS THE LET'S MEET THE PANEL ISTS AND JUMP INTO THE FRIDAY.
FROM THE BIG 550 KTRV.
BILL MCCLELLAN FROM STL.
AND FROM THE St. LOUIS AMERICAN ALVIN REID.
RAKERS WE WILL START WITH YOU -- RAY, WE WI I THINK ILLI THIS WEEK WHEN THE SUP THERE RULED OKAY FOR FOR THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR TO GET RID OF CASH AND BAY.
OTHE HAVE REFORMED CASH BAIL BUT THIS IS T THAT HAS ELIMINATED IT ENTIRELY.
SO NOW EITHER THE JUDGE WILL SAY HEY, YOU ARE TOO DANGEROUS TO RELEASE OR YOU GET RELEASED BUT NONE OF THIS, HEY, PUT UP $70,000.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I THIS WEEK I -- >> Cha EVERYBODY THAT RAY HARTMANN St .
LOUIS.
SHOULD BE HELD WITHOUT BAIL.
ONE IS IF THEY ARE A THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND THAT C THE CASE OF A DOMESTIC IT CAN BE SOMEBODY DANGEROUS TO WITNESSES.
BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE DONE THAT'S SO VI WHATEVER, THAT THEY ARE A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY THE OTHER IS I FLIGHT RISK.
IT'S REA THOSE AR KEEP SOMEBODY INCARCERATED OTHERWISE PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED UNDER THE 8th AMENDMENT AND BENEFICIAL RIGHTS TO BAY.
THE ONLY FUNCTION OF CASH BAIL BY SETTING IT AT 5,000 THE ONL FUNCTION IS TO MAKE IT DISPROPORTIONATELY FOR POOR PE MOST OF US, ANY OF PANEL, PEOPLE IN OUR AUDIENCE THE LARGE MAJORITY OF PE COULD COME UP WITH $5,000 IF IT MEANT GETTING A LOVED ONE OUT JAIL PENDING, AGAIN, PENDING THEIR TRIUMPHANT THERE IS A LARG TH WHO ARE IMPOVERISHED WHO CAN'T MEET THAT.
THE NOT REGULAR BAIL IS TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THOSE PEOPLE.
THAT YOU STAY IN PRISON.
THAT'S IT.
>> LET M IN St. LOUIS THERE IS A STORY THAT WE SOLVE LESS THAN 50% OF THE HOMICIDES.
RIGHT AROUND 50%.
AND ONE OF THE REASON THAT WE HAVE PROBLEMS SOLVING CRIMES IS PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO B WITNESSES.
YOU KNOW PEOPLE SAY HEY, I DON'T WANT TO TESTIFY.
I DON'T WANT TO BE A W BECAUSE THIS GUY THE STREET TOMORROW.
AND IF WE HAVE THIS THING WHERE THE JUDGES ARE LETTING PEOPLE GO BECAUSE, WELL, IT'S UNFAIR TO KEEP A POOR NORTHWESTERN JAIL THINGS WILL ONLY GET WORSE.
I MEAN WITH -- IT'S A SHAME WE HAVE TO PUT ANYBODY IN JAIL BUT THE TRUTH IS WE NEED TO PUT PEOPLE IN JAIL AND JUST SAYING OKAY, WELL, YOU CAN GET OUT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT POOR PEOPLE.
>> Charlie: ILLINOIS, BIG STATE OF EMERGENCY C PLACE, OKAY.
I STILL EQUATES KIND OF TO THE SAME ARGUMENT BILL IS MAKING A YOU BRING IT R LOUIS, NOT A WHATEVER, BUT I THINK IF YOU JUST SAY WE ARE NO THERE WILL BE NO MORE CASH BAIL I THINK YOU ARE SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR A MAGNIFICENT F BECAUSE YOU ARE HAVING TOO MUCH TRUST BECAUSE SOMEONE THE FAMILY CAN'T GET HIM OUT OF JAIL.
SAYING EVERYBODY WHO CAN'T MAKE BAIL IS AS WORTHY OF THIS.
AND, NO, SOME PEOPLE NEED TO BE IN PRISON AND A JUDGE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO DECIDE YOU ARE REALLY, REALLY DANGEROUS.
YOU DID SOMETHING DANGEROUS.
AND IF SOMEBODY CAN'T COME UP WITH $500 IN YOUR STAY AND I THINK THAT'S FAIR.
I THINK SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY.
>> SAYING AND I AGREE WITH BOTH O YOU, THE VICTIMS AND THE POTENTIAL VICTIMS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE REALLY NOT BEI ABOUT HERE AT ALL IN MY OPIN >> THESE PEOPLE KEEP IN MIND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AC THEY ARE PRESU >> Wen BEEN -- RIGHT.
THEY ARE FOUND G WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- NO, NO.
[ Mixed Voices ] ANYBODY -- LOUIS PEOPLE CAN LITERALLY SIT FOR MONTHS.
>> YES.
>> Ray: WAIT.
THEY HAVEN'T WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY ARE GUILTY.
REMAIN.
SAY AND THERE IS S GET ARRESTED AND THEY END UP PLEADING GUILTY JUST TO GET OUT OF JAIL BECAUSE PU SAYS, HEY, I CAN GET YOU A DEAL WILL YOU PLEAD GUILTY TO A FELONY AND GET RELEASED.
THERE IS SOME OF T BUT THE IDEA THAT WE W ELIMINATE CASH BAIL AND KIND OF LET PEOPLE -- [ Mixed Voices ] THE MOST IRONIC AND TRAGIC IS THE STORY THAT TONY MESSENGER WROTE ABOUT.
WAS ACCUSED OF A SEX CRIME AND GOT OUT BECAUSE HE POSTED BAIL.
BUT THERE WAS A GUY IN THE CIT WHO WAS DIRT POORIES HAD HIS NAME WAS DAMIEN MILLER -- NO, ANTE OWN MILLER WHO WAS ACCUSED OF A SIMILAR SEX CRIME BUT HE LANGUISHED IN JAIL FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS.
IT GOT IN FRONT OF A JUD AUDREY FLIESIC AND NEXT THING HE IS OUT GU -YEAR OLD NEIGHBOR.
SOMETIMES A REASON.
HAVE A SYSTEM IN WHICH YOU ARE PRESUMED -- REGARDLESS OF YOUR INCOME YOU ARE PRESUMED INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
>>> NOW IF YOU ARE DE IS ABOUT INDIVIDUALIZED JUSTICE.
IF YOU ARE IN FACT DANGEROUS TO PEOPLE JUDGES HAVE IN ILLINOIS STILL THE ABILITY TO KEEP YOU IN PRISON -- TH IT'S AN 800 PA IN ILLINOIS UNLIKE OTHER PLACES -- IN OTHER PLACES IF YOU ARE CONSIDERED A DAN COMMUNITY YOU STAY BUT IN ILLINOIS NOW YOU HAVE TO BE A DANGER TO A SPECIFIC PERS AND THE PROSECUTORS HAVE TO IDENTIFY THAT PERSON.
ALSO, IF YOU ARE A FLIGHT RISK NOW PROSECUTORS HAVE A HIGHER STANDARD.
COMPELLING EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE A FLIGHT RISK AN OF THE 102 STATES OTHERS TO ILLINOIS OPPOSE THIS BILL.
>> WELL, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED YOU HA GETTING INTO THE DETAILS.
YOU.
>> >> MY POINT IS -- THE POINT ABOUT -- THE ISSUE IS CASH BAIL THAT WE ARE THE POIN VERY SIMPLE.
IT CREATES A FOR POOR PEOPLE.
EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE THAT ABUSER, SAY, A SPOUSAL ABUSEER IN FRONTENAC SHOULD NOT BE VERY POSSIBLY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET OUT BECAUSE THEY MIGHT HURT THEIR SPOUSE WHILE THEY ARE WAI THAT'S FINE.
DIFFERENT WHETHER YOU ARE -- A IT'S NOT ALL THE CITY BY THE WAY IT COULD BE RURAL AREAS, TOO.
>> Charlie: SPOUSE.
WH ABUSE WHEN THERE IS THAT H FOR THE PERSON TO VICTIM HAS TO SHOW UP IN PERSON IN ILLINOIS NOW UNDER THIS NEW LAW TO TESTIFY.
> >> THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT >> THIS IS NOT A >> THIS IS THE ILLINOIS &g t;> POINT IS CASH BAIL HAS ON PURPOSE AND THAT IS TO HAVE A DIFFERENT STANDARD OF JUSTICE FOR POOR PEOPLE THAN THE R US.
>> Charlie: NAME ME ANY SECTOR OF AMERICA WHERE POVERTY DOES NOT PUT NEW THE EXACT SAME SITUATION AS IT DOES WITH BA OKAY.
PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY AND OKAY.
TELL >> THIS IS JUDICIOUS.
>> A POOR PERSON IS STUCK THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.
>> AND CAN'T AFFORD &g t;> THEY ARE OVERWORKED.
>> IF HIRE -- >> HOW CAN A POOR PERSON AFFO RAY'S SUBSTASH COLLEGE?
>> THAT'S A GOOD P >> LET'S MOVE ON.
>> BANKRUPT THREE CO >> ALAN.
ONE ONE PERS BELOW.
THE CITY OF St. LOUIS IS GE WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT IN NOVEMBER OF 2021 STAN KROENKE AND THE NFL GAVE ABOUT $750 MILLION TO OUR AREA IN EXCHANGE FOR -- TO LAWSUIT.
$250 MIL AND NOW THE MA PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD MEN HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY WILL HAVE SO AND THEIR WORKERS WILL GO DOOR TO DOOR TO FIND OUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO A BILLION DOLLARS.
WHAT DO YOU > I THINK WHEN YOU REALLY, NEED TO FIND SOMETHING OUT KIND OF SPECIFICALLY EVERY 10 YEARS WE DO A CENSUS AND PEOPLE DO G DOOR TO DOOR BECAUSE THEY WANT TO THEY CAN.
I THIN BECAUSE IF YOU JUST DO ONLINE THERE IS A S POPULATIONS THAT AREN'T ONLINE, DON'T HAVE COMPUTERS OR HAVE WI-FI IN THEIR HOMES.
IT'S A WAY T SAY PRECINCTS OF THE CITY OF St .
LOUIS WITHOUT LEAVING YO KNOW ANYON SO I THINK T AND I -- >> ALVIN, YOU WERE SO RIGHT ON AND YOU ARE SO WRONG HERE.
GOING DOOR TO DOOR WHERE WE HIRE PEOPLE TO GO WHAT PEOPLE THINK WE SHOULD DO YOU KNOW THIS IS A REPUBLIC, RIGHT.
DECISIONS AND I THINK THAT THE ALDERMEN, TH TO -- MAYBE THEY CAN HAVE A COUPLE OF CO IT.
PUBL BU DECIDE ESSENTIALLY HOW THAT MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT.
SO METHING LIKE THIS WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS KIND OF MONEY THAT TO ME IS SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION.
>> OKAY.
THIS, IT COULD BE LIKE I GO DOOR TO DOOR, NOBODY ANSWERS, I PUT A THING IN THE MAILBOX THAT SAYS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE -- AND KNOW ECONOMIC IT AND MAYBE YOU PAY FOR THE LITTLE CARD WHERE ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LEAVE IT IN THE MAIL AND THE POSTMA TAKE IT WITH IT.
I CAN PERSONAL CONTACT IN REGARD TO THIS MONEY.
AND I MEAN IT'S St. LOUIS.
I MEAN.
>> I'M UNDERSTANDING THE HARM I REACH THAT TRIES TO GET PEOPLE TO [indiscernible].
IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE AL WORLD'S PROBLEMS BUT I THINK PART OF THE CITY, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO TIE IT TO THAT I LAST TOPIC BECAUSE I REALIZE W PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T AFFORD CAN THINK BUT JUST IN CASE WE WOUL LIKE TO I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S A WAY TO GET -- ALL ARE DOING IS GETTING INFORMATION IT'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE TO SEN PEOPLE OUT DOOR TO DOOR.
IT'S THAT -- WHAT HARM DOING?
>> IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICA THE CITY HAS PUBLIC SA ISSUES.
COOL, AND MENTAL HEALTH.
OKAY.
>> WE DON'T WANT TO HE >> Wendy: YOU HAVE BEEN ELEC ED TO DECIDE -- [ >> WHAT IS WRONG?
TO DOOR AND GET PEOPLE -- >> WHAT FARM?
EXPENSIVE THING.
>> OH, >> HOW EXPENSIVE DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE?
I MEAN SERIOUSLY.
>> HIRE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TO GO DOOR TO DOOR?
&g EARNINGS THEY REINVEST IN CITY.
>> GIVE THEM -- GIFT MONEY -- >> ALL RIGHT.
[ Mixed Voices ] >> WAR O &g FRANCIS HOWE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THERE WAS THE PREVIOUS SCHOOLBOARD THAT HAD SOME LANGUAGE ANTI-RACISM.
AND IT WAS POSTED ON SOME OF THE WALLS.
THAT ANY RESOLUTION PASSED BY THE PREVIOUS ONE AFTER 75 DAYS IF THIS CURRENT SCHOOLBOARD DIDN'T VOTE ON IT DOWN.
OR MESSAGE IS BEING TAKEN DOWN.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
>> I HOPE THAT THEY WILL RETHINK THAT.
THAT.
IT ALONE, LEAVE IT UP.
THAT'S WHAT -- TO STAY THAT WE ARE ANTI-RACIST DOESN'T HAVE A SUNSET.
THAT SHUCK AN EVERGREEN ISSUE EVEN THOUGH IT'S 7% OF THE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THEY NEED SCHOOL DISTRICT WELCOMES THEM.
ESPECIALLY AFTER THE OPTICS 2013 WHEN YOU HAD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO WERE MARCHING AGAINST THE UNACCREDITED NORMANDY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO TRANSFER STUDENTS THAT'S AND St. CHARLES COUNTY IS A HUGE AND GROWING BUSTLING COMMUNITY AND I JUST -- I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WILL CHANGE THEIR MIND AND LEAVE IT AL >> I ADMIRE YOUR IDEALISM BUT THERE IS A CHANGING THEIR MIND BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T -- THE NEW POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYT RACIST BUT WHAT ELSE DO YOU CALL AN ANTI, ANTI-RACIST ACT.
IT'S PART OF A GENERAL TREND THIS DAY ON THE RIGHT THAT BASICALLY HAS AMAZINGLY TURNED WORDS LIKE DIVERSITY, INCLUSION, EQUITY AND INCLUSION INTO A BAD THING.
THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD THEY ARE OPPOSED TO -- THE IDEA OF DIVERSITY.
LOUD WHICH THEY WEREN'T BEFORE I AM AGAINST DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUDING.
AGAINST IT.
OPPOSED TO AN ANTI-RACIST THING MEANS VERY CLEARLY -- WHICH WHICH IS ONLY POSTED IN ONE SCHOOL, ONE PLACE.
IT TARGETING.
MEANT BUT THE FACT IS BEING ANTI--- ANTI-RACISM PRETTY MUCH EQUATES.
HOW DO YOU STAY STRAIGHT FACE?
>> IT'S A TERRIBLE ME SEND TO THE SCHOOL THEY DON'T HAVE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
TH ANYTHING.
MESSAGE WE WILL TAKE DOWN THE ANTI-RACIST -- AND I JUST -- >> I AGREE WITH ALL.
I WILL SAY BECAUSE IT'S PHYSICALLY ON A WALL AND YOU CAN PHYSICA IT DOWN YOU ARE MA STATEMENT THAT -- > > WELL, THEY ARE NOT WELCO THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE WHATEVER LEADING TO THIS SIMPLY PUT DO NOT WANT ANY BLACK PEOP AT THE SCHOOL.
>> OH, COME ON.
[ Mixed Voices ] >> LET ME F IF YOU A ACTION LIK SAYING WE REALLY HAVE NO REGAR FOR YOU OR YOUR FEELINGS OR WHATEVER.
I WISH MORE PEOPLE WERE JU FRONT ABOUT IT LIKE THAT.
>> LET ME THROW THIS OPINION HERE.
THESE RESOLUTION THEY ARE MEANINGLESS.
WHAT THING WE ARE AGAINST RACISM.
OH, WELL, IT'S LIKE PUTTIN SOMETHING WE ARE AGAINST HOMELESSNESS BUT ARE YOU D ANYT I THINK A LO TALK THE GOOD GAME ABOUT RACE AND HOMELESSNESS AND POVERTY WHEN THE ISS THE TEST SCORES.
DO WE HAVE ENOUGH AFRICAN- ARE WE M WHAT ARE THE GOALS HERE.
[ Mixed Voices ] >> IF TH RESOLUTION ON THE WA THE LIKELIHOOD OF WORRYI THE PERCENTAGE OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN TEACHERS.
>> B LESS.
[ Mixed Voices ] ANYONE CAN STATEMENT SAYING I AM AGAINST RACISM UP THERE AND THEN Y THINK YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING.
AND THAT WE OPPOSE RACIS SCHOOL IS SOMETHING THAT ONCE WAS CALLED EDUCATIONAL.
I MEAN IT'S ACTUALLY MEANS SOMETHING.
> >> >> OH, MY GO >> THE ONLY TAX HAS BEEN TAKEN YOU ARE TALKIN LIBERAL ACTION, THE SCHOOLBOARD TAKING THAT THING DOWN TWO, WHAT SHOULD I TELL TELL WHAT YOU SOMEBODY SHOULD DO.
FOOTBALL PLAYER SIT DON'T TELL THEM WHEN YOU GOING ALL OF A SUDDEN WE DON'T GO TO THE STATE ARE CALLING THE SAYING, HEY, YOU K TAKE ACTION.
EVERYBOD TAKE ACTION.
FEEL MORE RESOLUTION WASN'T A RESOLUTION.
IF IT WAS A POLICY ARE GOING TO INCREASE TEST SCORES BY X PERCENT IN MATH AND ENGLISH, SCIENCE, ET CETERA.
AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING GENERAL GENEVA CONVENTION FIRST OF ALL TESTING MA IS INHERENTLY RA LY UNFAIR.
BU >> WHAT OH, COME ON.
>&g THAT TESTING ITSELF.
>> COME ON.
>> CHARLIE.
PEOPLE -- HIRIN TEACHERS OF COURSE IS NO LONGER ALLOWED BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
SO.
DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYBODY BLACK -- >&g >> THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT HAS TAKEN AN ACTION THAT IS FAR MORE TH QUESTIONABLE.
COMING DOWN.
TH IS IS WHAT GOING ON IN FORT [ indiscernible].
THAT'S ALL THE >> IT'S STRA >> Charlie: BILL, MESSAGE IS BEING SENT BY D ATTORNEYS SOME OF THE TOP NAMES IN T WESLEY BELL THE CURRENT ATTORNEY WHO WANTS TO BE THE NEXT U.S.
SENATOR?
INTEREST IF THEY HAVE BUSINESS WITH HIS OFFICE CO MONEY.
GOES ON.
BOB McCULLOUGH WAS A FRIEND OF MINE.
WHENEVER YOU HAVE A RACE OR A PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, CIRCUIT ATTORNEY THE BIG FROM THE LEGAL COMMUNITY.
SO I MEAN I DON'T SEE THIS BAD THING FOR WESLEY BELL.
I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD BE RUNNING FO DON'T GET ME -- A WHOLE OTHER MATTER.
BUT AS FAR AS RUNNING FOR PROSECUTING ATTORNEY AGAIN AND TAKING MONEY FROM THAT >> IT SEEMS LI IT'S A PROFESSIONAL COUR WE ALL BOUGHT YOUR BARBECUE SAUCE, RIGHT?
>> DID IT WAS DELIC >> IF GIVE YOU $100.
YOU STILL MIGHT BE ON THE BUT I WILL FEEL OBLIGATED.
>> Charlie: SHOULD I B TO GIVE A JUDGE >> IF HE RUNS FOR OFFICE?
>> MOST OF CHARLIE.
CITY A NONPARTISAN JUDICIAL SELECTION SYSTEM AND MOST OF THE COUNTIES IT'S A POLITICAL YOU RUN FOR.
IN ILLINOIS, JUDGES RUN.
> >> WE KNOW -- >> Wendy: THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF THAT DOESN'T PASS SMELL TEST BUT STILL I >> IT IS A BAD -- YOU ARE RIGH IN THAT IT'S A BAD SYSTEM BU IT'S LIKE I SAY WHY WOULD WESLEY BELL BE PARTICULARLY IN A SENATE RACE IT'S NOT EVEN RUN -- IN ANY CASE THE POINT IS WHY WOUL STARTS THIS TREND BECAUSE EVERY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY IN THE STATE THAT R CONTRIBUTIONS FROM LAWYERS.
THEY JUST DO.
AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT SOME KIND OF A LAW I GUESS Y COULD BUT GOOD LUCK.
>> I DON'T MIND IF I LAWYER OR A DIVORCE LAWYER WHO NEVER HAS BUSINESS IN FRONT OF WESLEY BELL.
BUT IF I MAJOR DEFENDER, YOU KNOW, A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY -- >> THEY MIGHT BE ON THE OPPOSI SIDE EXACTLY.
>> OF COURSE.
PL OF.
PEOPLE WHO UN-- WHO KNOW THIS THE PARTIES BEST ARE THE ONES WHO ARE IN T CAN SAY WELL, CULLOUGH, I THINK WESLEY BELL, OR I THINK WHO DOING A GOOD JOB OR A BAD JOB AND GIVE MONEY ACCORDINGLY.
>> I THINK MONEY INFLUENCES PEOPLE.
>> I DO.
> CAMPAIGN FINANCING.
>> CAN'T TEL >> THE POINT IS, S COULD TAKE ALL MONEY OUT OF POLITICS WE WOULD BE ALL BETTE OFF.
SHOULD START WITH -- >> OKAY.
>> ALVIN REID, I WANT TO ASK BUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNI HAS DECIDED NOT TO SEN ITS STATE EMPLOYEES TO MISSOURI BECAUSE OF THE STATE HAS PROBLEMS WITH RECENT TRANSGENDER LEGISLATION WAS PASSED IN JEFFERSON CITY.
RESTRICTIONS NOW ON CERTAIN SURGERIES AND MEDICAL TR THAT PEO AND SO NOW CALIFORNIA WON'T USE ANY STATE MONEY ON ANY TRAVEL TO MISSOURI.
EXCEPT FOR ONE THING.
YOU THINK YOU UCLA'S FOOTB COACH WILL ACCOMPANY THAT COACH WHEN THEY PLAY NEXT TIME IN ALABAMA OR MISSOURI OR STATES LIKE THIS.
SAN JOSE S SOME KIND OF WAY THESE UNIVERSITIES THEIR ATHLETIC TEAMS TO SOME OF THESE STATES AND NOBODY REALLY SAYS ANYTHING.
NOW IF Y THEN DO IT.
WE ARE NOT GOI WE ARE NOT PLA OR YOU GUYS CAN GO PLA HEAD COACH AND OTHER COACHES THAT YOU KNOW ARE PAID BY THE STATE THEY CAN'T GO.
AND SHOULD BE IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT.
RE-ELECTION?
DOESN'T HAVE ANY TEETH.
>> YEAH, EXACTLY.
>> SO.
AND TOLD OUR LEGISLATORS THAT CALIFORNIA IS NOT SENDING ANYBODY HERE THEY WOULD BE THRILLED.
>> UNTIL SERIES THAT WAS PL UCLA AND MISSOURI IN BASKETBALL YOU SAY, OKAY, THEY ARE NO COMING.
SAY, LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY ARE NOT COMING IN WE HAVE TO HIRING IN OUT.
>> THE RESOLUTIO INCO BA AMERICAN.
STORY.
SPECIAL PANDEMIC FOOD STAMPS LAST SUMME THEM IN JUNE AND THE STATE'S DEPARTMENTS OF ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION JU ANNO ARE NOT COMING AT ALL.
THAT'S THESE KIDS 350,000 OF THEM, ARE SUPPOSED TO GET $120 ONE MONTH.
HOW DO YOU BLAME?
>> ARE THIS IS A CERTAINLY THE REPUBLICAN HEART HAS BEEN 100% AGAINST EXPANDING MEDICAID AND FOUGHT IT EVEN AFTER THE PUBLIC VOTED FOR IT.
THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED AND THIS IS THE PARSON ADMINISTRATION.
I, WHOEVER THE HEAD OF DESI MADE THE DECISION.
>> MARJ.
IT MAY I BU AS ADMINISTRATION.
AND THEY DON'T -- I I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD PUT IT ANTI- WELFARE IS THE WAY THEY LOOK AT IT.
MONEY.
WE HAVE LOST WHAT WAS HOW MA WAS IT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FEDERAL AID OVER THE YEARS NOT BEING WILLING TO EXPAND MEDICAID THAT THE STATE HAS BEEN WILLING NOT TO DO >> APPARATUS.
>> IT IS.
> GAIN IN SAYING WE ARE NOT GOIN TO HELP THESE CHILDREN GET -- >> Wendy: BUT THEY ARE NOT STAYING THAT THEY ARE SAYING IT WAS THE DISTRIBUTION APP COMPUTERS.
>> I KNOW.
>> COMPLICAT BU >> RIGHT.
CONSENSUS.
CHARLIE, IT'S -- >> NO.
I THINK COMPETENCE.
>> THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN IT.
IT'S FOR THE LITERALLY HAD FOREGONE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FEDERAL MESS.
THIS LITTLE DETAIL WE PAY THAT MONEY IN.
IN MIS DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE L TABLE BECAUSE WE DISAPPROVE OF MEDICAID.
>> OKAY.
>> EXACTLY.
ON THAT NUT SO HOPEFUL LET'S GO TO THE OLD MAIL BAG.
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