>> WE HAVE A FANTASTIC CROWD FOR 2023 DONNYBASH AT THE SHELDON AUDITORIUM.

GIVE IT UP LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU.

[ APPLAUSE ] THIS IS OUR LIVE BROADCAST.

THERE'S NO EDITING OF THIS TAPE.

THE PRESSURE IS ON THE PANELISTS.

HERE THEY ARE.

[ LAUGHTER ] 50% OF THE JENNIFER AND WENDY SHOW ON THE BIG 550 FOR WENDY WIESE.

[ APPLAUSE ] DONNYBROOK FOUNDER AND ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH, BILL McCLELLAN.

DONNYBROOK FOUNDER, FOUNDER OF "RIVERFRONT TIMES," RAY HARTMANN.

BRAND NEW SUIT FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN WHERE EAUDITS THE NEWS AND WRITES GREAT SPORTS COLUMN MR. ALVIN REID.

[ APPLAUSE ] WE DO WANT TO THANK OUR FRIENDS AT DESIGN AIR WHO MADE THIS PROGRAM POSSIBLE.

SPEAKING OF BASEBALL, WAS THERE NOT A GOLDKAMP SIGNED WITH THE NEW YORK YANKEES.

WELL, RAY, I WANT TO ASK YOU, NOT ABOUT HEATING AND COOLING, ABOUT DOT FOODS.

OUR FIRST TOPIC TONIGHT.

A STORY THAT WAS FIRST BROKEN BY THE ST. LOUIS BUSINESS JOURNAL, THAT DOT FOODS LOCAL FOOD COMPANY 140 MILES NORTH OF ST. LOUIS.

THEY HAVE AN OFFICE IN CHESTERFIELD.

THEY HAVE A CONVENTION IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.

THEY WERE SCHEDULED TO HAVE A CONVENTION IN ST. LOUIS NEXT YEAR.

THEY SAID NO, WE'RE MOVING TO DENVER.

AMONG THE REASONS CRIME.

YOU WRITE ABOUT THAT IN THIS WEEK'S COLUMN.

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT, WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE HORRIBLE ACTS THAT OCCURRED A FEW MONTHS AGO.

WHICH WAS A GIRL WHO WAS HERE FOR A VOLLEYBALL COMPETITION WAS HIT AND HAD HER LEGS AMPUTATED.

LOT OF PEOPLE ASSUMED THAT THIS WAS IN REACTION TO THAT.

BUSINESS JOURNAL LEFT OUT THAT THE DECISION TO MOVE THE SHOW TO DENVER IN '24 AND '25 WAS MADE A YEAR BEFORE THAT HAPPENED.

THAT PART WAS MENTIONED IN THE STORY.

NOT THE FACT THAT THE DECISION, THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS ACCIDENT.

I WILL SAY THIS, MAY BE POLITICALLY UNPOPULAR, ST. LOUIS, I STARTED THE "RIVERFRONT TIMES," THE CONVENTION CENTER IS 46 YEARS OLD.

I STARTED THE "RIVERFRONT TIMES" WHEN IT WAS FOUR MONTHS OLD.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW OLD, IT WAS BEFORE BILL OR CHARLIE CAME TO ST. LOUIS.

ALVIN WAS A TODDLER, WENDY WASN'T BORN.

[ LAUGHTER ] IT'S A LONG TIME AGO.

SERIOUSLY, THE POINT BEING, IN THOSE 46 YEARS, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CONVENTION, HOW MANY SERIOUS VIOLENT CRIMES OR MURDERS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN CONVENTION VISI VISITORS TO ST. LOUIS?

ZERO.

WE'RE KNOWN AS THE MURDER CAPITAL OF THE NATION.

WE ARE NOT AT ALL THAT.

FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS ST. LOUIS HAS DOWNTOWN, WE ARE A SAFE CONVENTION CITY, FULL STOP.

[ APPLAUSE ] >> LET'S HEAR FROM THE OTHER PANELIST.

>> I LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A STORY THAT WILL BE IN THE PAPER TOMORROW BY STEPH.

>> GREAT REPORTER.

>> FATHER OF FORMER BEAT COLUMN.

ANY RATE, WE MAY NOT HAVE A LOT OF MURDERS AT CONVENTIONS.

THE SENSE OF PEOPLE IS THE DOWNTOWN IS NOT SAFE.

THAT KEEPS CONVENTIONS AWAY.

WE JUST HAD SANBERG PHOENIX THE LAW FIRM MOVE THEIR OFFICE RIGHT ACROSS THE CONVENTION CENTER FURTHER SOUTH.

THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T FEEL PERSONALLY SAFE.

IF YOU'RE RUNNING THE CONVENTION CENTER IN NASHVILLE OR INDIANAPOLIS OR MEMPHIS, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD USE AGAINST ST. LOUIS.

THE NATIVES DON'T THINK DOWNTOWN IS SAFE.

WE CAN SAY THAT, YEAH, WE'RE A SAFE CONVENTION CITY, I DON'T THINK THAT'Sth PERCEPTION.

>> WE HAVEN'T LOST A CONVENTION YEAR YET.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD PUT ON MARKETING MATERIAL.

[ LAUGHTER ] JUST SAYING.

PERCEPTION IS REALITY IN THIS CLIMATE IN THIS WORLD OF REALTIME SOCIAL MEDIA.

I THINK IT'S TERRIFIC THAT YOU FEEL ENCOURAGED.

I DON'T FEEL QUITE AS ENCOURAGED.

>> MY TAKE IS, OKAY, EVERYBODY TAKING SHOTS AT ST. LOUIS.

RIGHTFULLY SO.

OTHER CITIES TRYING TO GET CONVENTIONS.

I GET IT.

THERE'S GLEE IN PILING ON, NOT FROM THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES BUT FROM THE PEOPLE HERE IN ST. LOUIS.

BUSINESS JOURNAL.

YOU WANT BUSINESS TO COME TO ST. LOUIS, LET'S WRITE A STORY THAT LEAVES OUT THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE CANCELED THEIR CONVENTION A YEAR AGO, NOT AFTER THIS TERRIBLE INCIDENT.

BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO DENVER WHERE NINE PEOPLE GOT SHOT WITHIN MINUTES OF WINNING THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP.

STUFF HAPPENS EVERYWHERE.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE ALONE ON THAT ISLAND.

TO POINT THAT OUT, I HAVE TO THROW IN THIS TOO, COACH AND PLAYERS FROM THE DENVER NUGGETS AFTER THE CELEBRATION OF THE NBA FINALS HAD T-SHIRTS ON WITH THE NBA TROPHY ON IT AND THE WORDS "PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT" [ LAUGHTER ] YOU GOT TO LOVE COLORADO.

>> THE GROUP CAME OUT WITH A REPORT THIS WEEK.

IT SHOWED IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS, WHICH IS IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT, HALF OF ALL CRIMES IN THE CITY ARE IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT.

50% OF THOSE ARE IN DOWNTOWN.

IN FACT, IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS THERE ARE 3800 CRIMES PER SQUARE MILE.

REST OF THE CITY IS 835.

THERE AREN'T CRIMES IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.

THERE'S A REASON WHY THOSE JERSEY BARRIERS ARE ON THE STREETS.

THEY ARE BLOCKING TRAFFIC BECAUSE THE TREATS ARE LAWLESS.

>> CAN I RESPOND?

IF YOU READ MY SUBSTACK, IT ENDS WITH A LENGTHY REPORT THAT WAS IN JANUARY AND THE DENVER FOX AFFILIATE ON TV TALKING ABOUT THEIR CONVENTION CORRIDOR AND HOW MUCH CRIME AND HOW IT WAS UP.

EVERY CITY -- I KNOW I'VE BEEN TO DOZENS OF TRADE SHOWS AND CONVENTIONS.

THERE'S TWO THINGS YOU WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON.

ONE IS DON'T WEAR YOUR BADGE WHEN YOU LEAVE.

GOING OUT INTO TOWN.

OTHER IS WALK TOGETHER IN GROUPS.

I WAS TALKING TO A DOWNTOWN RESIDENT TODAY, LES WAS ON OUR "NEXT UP" PRAP, ONE OF THE BRIGHTEST MINDS.

I WAS TALKING ABOUT CRIME.

HE SAID, WE WEREN'T ON THIS SUBJECT.

HE SAYS THE TIME WE HAVE LESS CRIME IS WHEN THERE'S A MAJOR CONVENTION IN TOWN.

THE PROBLEM WITH DOWNTOWN, I'M NOT ARGUING ABSOLUTELY, WHEN I HAD OFFICES THROUGH 1995 IN DOWNTOWN, 17 YEARS OUR COMPANY WITH VERY LITTLE -- >> THAT WAS 30 YEARS AGO.

>> WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS, IN THE '80s, PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW UNSAFE DOWNTOWN WAS.

THEY WERE.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU.

>> IT FELT SAFE.

WE HAD COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GO, BECKY THATCHER OUT AND PEOPLE WERE AFRAID TO GET OFF THE BOAT.

>> IT IS LESS SAFE THAN IT WAS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IT.

WHEN YOU COME TO A CONFERENCE AND LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR YOUR CONFERENCE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO SAY.

I KNOW WE HAVE ISSUES.

>> WE HAVE BIG ISSUES.

>> WE HAVE LOT OF ISSUES TO DEFEND.

>> LAST YEAR DENVER, YOU CITED DENVER, THEY HAD 88 HOMICIDES.

THE POPULATION, 700,000.

WE HAVE A POPULATION OF 286,000.

WE HAD 200 HOMICIDES.

>> REAL QUICK, IF YOU LOOK BETWEEN 2005 JULY AND THEN TO 2007, THE MOST DANGEROUS MUNICIPALITY IN THE ST. LOUIS AREA WAS KIRKWOOD, MISSOURI.

NOW, IT WAS HORRIFIC AND TERRIBLE.

WHEN YOU START ADDING UP THE PER CAPITA AND HOW MANY PEOPLE GOT KILLED AND POLICE OFFICERS AND ALL THAT, WE WERE IT.

I DON'T EVER LOOK AT ANY INDIVIDUAL CITY AND SAY LIKE, HEY, -- WE HAD A -- >> LET'S MOVE ON TO ANOTHER TOPIC.

THIS GUY WILL ALWAYS DEFEND KIRKWOOD.

KIRKWOOD IS IN GREAT SHAPE NOW.

>> OH, YEAH.

>> IT CAN COME BACK.

>> REGARDLESS OF THERS.

>> HOW ABOUT ALVIN, DO WE NEED AT THE FEDERAL PRISON, A BOARD OF ALDERMAN WING.

BRANDON BOSLEY, LOST A REALLY -- WHO'S A REALLY NICE GUY.

FAMOUS ST. LOUIS NAME.

HE HAS BEEN INDICTED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THREE COUNTS OF WIRE FRAUD CONNECTED TO AN INSURANCE SCAM.

LAST YEAR, AT DONNYBASH, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THREE OTHER ALDERMAN WHO WERE INDICTED.

AT THAT TIME, THE MAYOR SAID, JUST THE BEGINNING.

THERE ARE OTHER NAMES THAT WILL COME UP.

IS THAT THE END?

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I HOPE IT'S THE END.

RIGHT NOW, SOMEBODY PROBABLY GETTING ARRESTED.

I KIND OF THINK THAT, I READ THAT.

THE UNDERVALUING OF THE CAR AND ALL THAT, MAY BE COULD HAVE PLAYED THAT OFF.

MY BUDDY GAVE ME A TEAL AND HE SELL CARS.

WHATEVER.

I DO THINK THAT CONVERSATION TO BE HAD, BUT, I BELIEVE A LOT OF ST. LOUISANS LOT OF AMERICANS HAVE SIMILAR CONVERSATIONS WITH THEIR AUTO REPAIR PERSON.

YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND THAT BASICALLY SAYS, LOOK ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO GET THIS CAR TOTAL.

THAT'S GOOD.

IF I HAVE TO GET IT REPARKED, I'LL GET IT REPAIRED.

IF YOU GET IT TOTALED, I WILL GIVE YOU TASTE OF THAT.

IF YOU'RE NOT A AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I'D SAY DUDE YOU'RE WALKING A FINE LINE STOP.

IF YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU GO TO PRISON.

I'M NOT EXCUSING BRANDON BOSLEY.

I'M SAYING, THERE'S LOT OF CONVERSATIONS I SURE DON'T WANT TAPED IN LIFE.

>> YOU KNOW, ALVIN, IT IS JUST ANOTHER REMINDER OF HOW THE WORLD HAS CHANGED.

WHEN I THINK -- WE GREW UP WITH REALLY CORRUPT, OLD SCHOOL CORRUPTION.

WHERE YOU'RE TALKING $800,000.

$8000.

THAT MAY BE KIND OF SAD.

>> IT MAKES ME SAD.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> I'M NOT JOKING.

THAT MADE ME KIND OF SAD.

TIMES HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH.

THAT IS WORTHY OF A -- >> HE LOWERED THE BAR.

THEY WERE ON THE TAPE FOR $1100 RIGHT OUT OF THE A.T.M.

MACHINE.

>> YOU'RE GOING TO GO SOUTH AMERICA.

EXTRADITION TREATIES.

>> AT SOME POINT, PEOPLE HAVE TO QUIT TALKING.

WHO'S THE INFORMANT.

YOU THINK PEOPLE REALIZE THAT EVERYBODY I KNOW WHO TALKS TO HIM ENDS UP IN PRISON.

[ LAUGHTER ] I REMEMBER WHEN LOUIS REED TOOK THAT MONEY OUT OF A CASH COUNTING MACHINE.

WHERE DO YOU GET CASH COUNTING MACHINE?

IT'S AT THE INFORMANT SCHOOL.

I'M WITH YOU.

I DID NOT THINK THAT WHAT BRANDON BOSLEY DID SOUNDED AWFUL TO ME.

TRYING TO GET YOUR MECHANIC TO SIGN OFF ON THIS.

>> FIRST OF ALL -- >> I DON'T KNOW WHO THE GUEST IS NEXTEEK ON "NEXT UP."

IT'S NOT MOHAMMED AL MUTHMA.

>> IS MOHAMMED HERE TONIGHT?

I WANT TO SAY THIS.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FACT THAT HE DIDN'T JUST -- FOR BRANDON BOSLEY, I DON'T KNOW THE YOUNG MAN.

HE REALLY NEEDED SOME HELP WHEN MESSAGING.

HE DIDN'T SAY A SINGLE WORD ABOUT THE WEAPONIZATION OF MERRICK GARLAND JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.

[ LAUGHTER ] HEY, I ONLY HAVE AS MANY INDICTMENTS AS THE LAST PRESIDENT.

>> WENDY WIESE.

OKAY.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS -- >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

I THINK MANY PEOPLE IN ST. LOUIS HAVE A FINE RECOLLECTION OF GLORY DAYS OF ANHEUSER-BUSCH.

STILL, YOU HAVE KIND OF A CONNECTION TO THE BRAND.

HOW DID YOU FEEL THIS WEEK WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT BUD LIGHT, WHICH WERE 20 YEARS HAD BEEN THE NUMBER ONE BEST SELLING BEER IS NOW AT LEAST IN TERMS OF DOLLARS, NOT VOLUME, NUMBER TWO IN THE MONTH OF MAY TO MODELO?

>> WELL, IT JUST PROVES TO ME THAT OLDER GUYS ARE MARKET FORCE THAT YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH.

>> THANK YOU, WENDY.

>> HONESTLY.

I'VE HEARD MANY PEOPLE SAY THAT -- EVERYTHING IS CYCLICAL IN THE MARKETPLACE, OBVIOUSLY.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE OTHER KINGS OF BEERS.

BUT, I STILL HEAR PEOPLE SAY, PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN BUD LIGHT DRINKERS, THEY WERE INCREDIBLY OFFENDED BY THE CONDESCENDING, IT'S LOT OF THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON THE TRANSGENDER ACTIVIST AND THE CUSTOMIZED BEER CAN.

I THINK IT WAS THE WE DON'T WANT OUR OLD MARKET SHARE.

I THINK THAT WAS WHAT DID IT FOR LOT OF PEOPLE.

ESPECIALLY PEOPLE IN ST. LOUIS WHO HAVE BEEN BEER DRINKERS.

>> I THINK THEY STOPPED MAKING THE ORIGINAL MICHELOB, I STARTED DRINKING MODELO.

THEY PUSHED IT OVER THE TOP.

WITH ALL THE TALK, YOU GUYS ALL KNOW THE NEXT LINE IN THAT SONG.

I'M NOT TOO PANICKED ABOUT BUD LIGHT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK THEY'LL BE FINE.

>> IT'S A MOMENT.

>> I THINK IT'S THE POLARIZATION OF AMERICA, IN THE SENSE THAT BEER DRINKERS TEND TO BE CONSERVATIVES AND THE LIBERALS ARE DRINKING LATTES AND WINE.

I GO HOME AND HAVE A GLASS OF RED WINE.

>> I GO HOME AND HAVE A BEER.

>> I THINK IT WAS EXCLUSIVE BECAUSE OF BOYCOTT.

THEY TOOK A HIT.

THIS IS ABOVE MY PAY GRADE.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHEN YOU LOSE -- WHEN YOU TAKE THE KIND OF HIT TO MARKET CAP, YOUR STOCK PRICES GO DOWN AND EVENTUALLY IT BECOMES A VERY GOOD STOCK PRICE.

IT'S KIND OF CYCLICAL.

I DON'T THINK THOSE KINDS OF HITS ARE PERMANENT.

I DON'T THINK -- I'M NOT THE ONE TO CRITICIZE A BOYCOTT.

PEOPLE ON MY SIDE OF THE FENCE, MADE CHICK-FIL-A PAY FOR HOMOPHOBIA FOR A LONG TIME.

THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES.

IT WAS A SELF-INFLICTED WOUND I THOUGHT IN TERMS OF THE MARKETING PROGRAM.

I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH THE FOLKS.

I'M NOT GOING TO CRITICIZE THEM FOR IT.

I'M GUESSING IF THEY CAN DO THAT CAMPAIGN DIFFERENTLY, THEY MIGHT HAVE.

I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO STOP BEATING UP ON THE TRANS COMMUNITY.

I'M FINE WITH IT.

[ APPLAUSE ] >> CHICK-FIL-A HAS A DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION OFFICER.

>> NOW I'M SURE -- >> IT WAS UBER.

>> BILL McCLELLAN I LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT A PROBLEM THAT IS REALLY BAKE IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

SINCE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, THE CITY HAS 60 WATER MAINS BURST, INCLUDING A BIG GUSHER ON 64/40 IN MAY.

I WAS ACTUALLY CAUGHT IN THAT TRAFFIC.

IT WAS CRAZY HOW MUCH WATER WAS ON 64/40.

BOARD OF ALDERMAN VOTED TO RAISE THE WATER RATE FROM $75 TO $175 A QUARTER.

THEY NEED $400 MILLION TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM EVENTUALLY.

THERE'S $37 MILLION FEDERAL DOLLARS EARMARKED FOR NORTH ST. LOUIS.

CALLED THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR PROGRAM.

GIVEN THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY HAVE A BUSINESS, SHOULD THEY TAKE THAT $37 MILLION AND REDIRECT IT TO BETTER SUERS AND PIPES -- SEWERS AND PIPES UNDERGROUND?

>> SOME WANTED TO PAY MORE TO FIX THE WATER.

HE SAID, OF COURSE I DON'T WANT TO PAY MORE.

MOSTLY, I WANT THE WATER RUNNING.

WHEREVER THEY GET THE MONEY, WHETHER IT'S TAXES OR MONEY THEY SET ASIDE FOR SOMETHING ELSE, THAT'S A PROBLEM THEY HAVE TO FIX IMMEDIATELY.

>> ARE WE ALLOWED TO GET LIFELINES?

YOU GOT A LIFELINE.

I GO WITH SARAH FENSKY.

I DISAGREE VERY MUCH WITH YOUR PREMISE THAT WE SHOULD DISINVEST WHAT THE MAYOR DOING APPROPRIATELY IN THE NORTH SIDE.

THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

>> DOES MONEY GROW ON TREES I DO NOT THINK YOU TAKE WITH THE INNOVATE PROGRAMS THAT THE MAYOR IS BEHIND IN NORTH ST. LOUIS.

>> IT MIGHT BE INNOVATIVE.

THEY HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A FORM LAUP -- FORMULA.

>> TECHNICALLY, WOULD FIX ALL THE MAYBES ON THE NORTH SIDE.

>> ALL WE'VE BEEN HEARING HOW ST. LOUIS IS FLUSHED WITH RAM, WE GOT THE RAMS AND COVID FUNDS.

NOW THE PEOPLE ARE HAVING -- >> ULTIMATELY, PEOPLE IN THE CITY HAVE BEEN PLAY -- PAYING LESS VALUE ON THEIR WATER BILL.

>> IT'S EVEN MORE CRAZY THAN THAT.

ST. LOUIS IS ONE OF THE FEW CITIES IN THE NATION THAT DOES NOT HAVE WATER METERS ON HOMES.

YOU CAN USE AS MUCH WATER AS YOU WANT AS YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, YOU CAN BE ON VACATION ALL YEAR, IF YOU HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF BATHROOMS, YOU PAY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

>> PEOPLE HAVE SWIMMING POOLS IN THE CITY.

>> THAT'S AN ADDITION.

>> THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS OUT OF ONE PROGRAM AND SAY, LET'S SHIFT IT.

>> IT'S NOT RANDOM.

IT'S PURPOSEFUL AND STRATEGIC.

BY THE WAY, IF THEY CAME TO US, SAY WE'RE GOING TO RAISE YOUR RATE, WE DIG A WELL IN OUR BACKYARD BEFORE WE PAY THAT.

[ LAUGHTER ] IT'S EASY FOR ME TO SAY, PAY IT CITY.

WENDY WIESE, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT CHICAGO.

I KNOW FOR A LONG TIME, YOU'VE BEEN ADVOCATING BETTER ROADS TO KANSAS CITY.

>> KIND OF SELF-SERVING.

>> THAT'S GOOD.

NOW, THERE'S A TRAIN AMTRAK THAT'S GOING TO CHICAGO AND IT WILL ACHIEVE SPEED OF 110 MILES PER HOUR.

IT WILL GET YOU THERE EITHER 4 HOURS 50 MINUTES OR 5 HOURS 25 MINUTES.

UNLESS IT HITS A FREIGHT TRAIN AND ALL BETS ARE OFF.

IN FRANCE, YOU CAN GET ON A TRAIN THAT GOES BETWEEN 186 AND 199 MILES AN HOUR ON THE TGB.

SHOULD WE PROUD THAT OUR AMTRAK IS 30 YEARS BEHIND EUROPEAN TRAINS?

>> WE WERE ALL STRUCK BY THE NUMBER OF DERAILMENTS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

WE'VE HAD, I BELIEVE, 15 NATIONAL SERIOUS DERAILMENTS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

THERE ARE USUALLY 1000 DERAILMENTS ACCORDING TO NTSB FIGURES IN THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL."

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

THIS HAPPENING TOO MUCH.

IN A POST-COVID WORLD, YOU HAVE AGENCIES THAT HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES, LIMITED INSPECTORS TO GO OUT INTO THE FIELD.

I THINK I WILL WAIT AND I WILL DRIVE IN THE SLOW LANE TO CHICAGO.

>> WAIT A MINUTE.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST A FEW CAR ACCIDENTS AS WELL IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

IT'S NOT LIKE TRAIN DERAILMENTS.

ANY FORM OF TRAVEL HAS RISKS.

TRAINS ARE SAFE.

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT.

YOU GOT SOME ODDS SURVIVING A PLANE.

I DO NOT THINK THAT SAFETY IS AN ISSUE.

I'M PUZZLED BY -- >> WHAT IS THE ISSUE?

>> FOR ME THE ISSUE IS MATH.

IF CHICAGO 300 MILES AWAY AND THEY GO 110 MILES AN HOUR, WHY DOES IT TAKE SIX HOURS TO GET THERE.

[ APPLAUSE ] OTHERWISE, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> SHE USED TO CATCH A TRAIN.

I DONE IT MANY TIMES.

LET'S GET IT UP TO 160.

POINT ARC TO -- POINT A TO POINT B. I DOUBT YOU DROVE 50 MILES AN HOUR DOWN TO THE STUDIO TODAY.

>> I REMEMBER WHEN BERNIE SANDERS WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.

PEOPLE SAID YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY.

I THOUGHT, 12 WEEKS VACATION, HIGH SPEED RAIL AND YOU RIOT IF YOU HAVE TO RETIRE AT 65.

I LIKE HIGH SPEED RAIL.

IT'S A START.

>> LOOK AT ALL OF THE DISPENSARIES.

>> ALVIN REID.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JOE HOLLEMAN WHO'S IN THE HOUSE.

THERE HE IS.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

[ APPLAUSE ] SARAH FENSKY, EXECUTIVE EDITOR EUCLID MEDIA IS WITH US.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

[ APPLAUSE ] JOE HAS A STORY THAT THERE'S ONE GUY WHO'S TAKING A LOOK AT THE TEMPORARY TAGS THAT ARE EXPIRED.

HE'S RIPPING THEM OFF AUTOMOBILES.

THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER STORY FROM THE POST DISPATCH THAT CALVERTON PARK IS NOW TOWING CARS WITH EXPIRING TEMPORARY TAGS FROM THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY FROM THEIR DRIVEWAYS.

[ APPLAUSE ] WHAT DO YOU THINK OF EITHER OF THOSE?

>> I'M A BIG TOW GUY.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

CALVERTON PARK.

>> THEY PROBABLY DOING IT FOR A LITTLE -- YOU KNOW LIKE, BRANDON BOSLEY TRYING TO GET A LITTLE TASTE.

I THINK THESE ARE GOOD THINGS.

DON'T GO TAKING A TAG OFF SOMEBODY'S CAR.

NEXT THING YOU KNOW IT WILL BE A STAND YOUR GROUND THANG.

HE WAS TRYING TO TAKE OFF THE EXPIRED TEMPORARY TAG.

SO, YEAH, DON'T TOUCH OTHER PEOPLE'S STUFF.

UNLESS YOU'RE A MUNICIPALITY.

>> WHEN YOU TOW A CAR, IT SOUNDS GREAT UNTIL SUDDENLY, THE STORY IS ABOUT THE POOR PERSON WHO CAN NO LONGER GET TO WORK BECAUSE YOU STOLE -- TOWED THEIR CAR.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS.

>> I'M NOT PRO-TOW.

IF YOU HAD YOUR CAR TOWED, IT'S THE MOST MISERABLE EXPERIENCE.

>> I THOUGHT MAY BE, MY CAR WAS TOWD, YOU'D GET A DISCOUNT.

>> DID YOU TRY IT?

>> I WOULD HAVE.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE GREATER ST. LOUIS INC.

TRAVELING TO LONDON.

NOT ONLY TO WATCH THE CUBS, CARDINALS MATCH, WHICH IS A HISTORIC EUROPEAN CONTEST, BUT ALSO -- WELL IT IS.

I DON'T THINK THE CARDINALS EVER PLAYED THERE BEFORE.

THEY'LL BE AT WEMBLEY STADIUM.

ALSO ST. LOUIS LEADERS WILL BE GOING TO THE U.S. EMBASSY AND THEY WILL BE HEADING TO SEMINARS CONDUCTED PIGEO BY JOHN ROONEY.

THERE WILL BE A LOT OF BUSINESS INTEREST FROM ST. LOUIS IN LONDON TRYING TO SELL ST. LOUIS.

>> I THINK IT'S A SCAM.

[ LAUGHTER ] FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING GREATER ST. LOUIS INC., THE IDEA THAT THEY NEED TO GO TO LONDON ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S DIME.

HAVE A ZOOM MEETING IF WANT TO TALK TO THE EMBASSY OR PAY THEIR OWN WAY.

THE IDEA THAT THIS WILL BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, IF WE GO TO LONDON AND LIVE LARGE.

I DON'T LIKE THAT.

>> I'M HAPPY TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT.

TO ME THAT'S MORE HONEST.

THAT'S MORE AUTHENTIC.

JUST TO SAY, WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF OUR BALL TEAM.

WE'RE PROUD THAT THEY ARE PLAYING IN THIS HISTORIC MATCHUP.

TO MAKE IT INTO SOME KIND OF BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY THAT IS PATENTLY RIDICULOUS.

>> I WILL FOLLOW-UP.

I SAW THAT, I SENT IT TO EVERYBODY.

I SAID LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO CORNER THE FISH AND CHIPS MARKET NOW.

THIS IS BAD.

THIS IS SAD.

THIS IS A BAD COMMENTARY ON GREATER ST. LOUIS INC.

THIS IS A FREEBIE.

WE'RE GOING TO GET WINED AND DINED.

THEY'RE TAKING SOME ST. LOUIS CHRONICS AND THEY SHIPPED THEM OVER THERE FEDEX.

LIKE WHAT IS GOING ON?

THIS IS JUST BAD.

>> THEY PROBABLY TAKING BUD LIGHT OVER THERE.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> COULD YOU PUT OUT A PINT SO I CAN WALK IT?

LET ME BE CLEAR, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S PAYING FOR IT.

>> THAT'S NOT OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKETS.

>> I THINK THEY SHOULD -- THE BUSINESS PEOPLE SHOULD PAY FOR IT.

I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE A HUGE TAXPAYER EXPENSE.

IT IS WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, I NEVER BEEN ON ONE OF THESE, IT'S WHAT CITIES AND THEIR READERS TEND TO DO WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO, FOR EXAMPLE, ENCOURAGE -- TRYING TO PUT A POSITIVE FACE ON ST. LOUIS.

TALK WHAT IT HAS TO OFFER AND IN PARTICULAR, PUSH MORE INTERNATIONAL ROUTES AND SOME OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE BY SOMEBODY WITH ONE ONE-TO-ONE CONTENT.

NOT OVER ZOOM.

AM I DEFENDING THE PARTY?

NO.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE MORE RATIONAL ABOUT THE FACT THAT CITIES CERTAINLY THE CONVENTION OFFICIALS AND CERTAINLY ECONOMIC OFFICIALS, HAVE A LEGITIMATE REASON TO TRY TO PROMOTE COMMERCE TO ST. LOUIS.

>> IT'S A JUNKET.

>> YOU GO OVER THERE, YOU MIGHT LEARN SOME BEST PRACTICES.

STEVE WAS IN LONDON ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO.

HE TWEETED BACK SOME PHOTOS OF HOW THEY HAVE THREE POLICE OFFICERS WALKING TOGETHER DOWN THE STREETS HOW THEY HAVE TONS OF CREWS PICKING UP LITTER.

MAY BE OUR BUSINESS LEADERS WILL SAY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IN ST. LOUIS.

>> THEY KNOW THAT.

THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT.

>> WE TALK ABOUT IT EVERY WEEK.

[ LAUGHTER ] THEY HAVE TO GO TO LONGED TO DO THIS?

>> POLICE OFFICERS IS BETTER THAN NONE.

>> I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO OVER THERE TO SEE WHAT LONDON IS DOING.

WE DON'T NEED TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

WE NEED TO SELL ST. LOUIS TO THEM.

INTERNATIONAL ROUTES DO NOT SELL THEMSELVES.

>> YOU GUYS AREN'T SELLING INTERNATIONAL ROUTES.

>> THE PRIME MINSTER AND THE KING WILL WATCH ROONEY TALKING?

THEY'RE SITTING UP AND EVERYBODY LIKE -- >> I WOULD BET YOU CHICAGO HAS OFFICIALS UP THERE.

>> I BET THEY DO TOO.

>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT BOOZE.

THERE ARE A GROUP OF RESTAURANT AND BAR OWNERS IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WHO WOULD LIKE TO STREAM LINE THE WAY LIQUOR LICENSES ARE DISPENSED.

RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANT A LIQUOR LICENSE NOW, YOU HAVE TO GET THE SIGNATURES OF NEIGHBORS WHO ARE NEAR THAT BAR.

WE THOUGH THERE'S BEEN SOME CRAZY COMMOTION IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS SURROUNDING BARS RECENTLY.

LAST TIME I CHECKED, I HAVEN'T SEEN A SHORTAGE OF BARS IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

NONETHELESS, -- >> IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW MANY BARS ARE IN THE CITY.

YOU TALKED ABOUT GREATER ST. LOUIS A LOT, THERE IS A VIRTUAL CIVIL WAR GOING ON DOWNTOWN BETWEEN THE LARGE BUSINESSES HEADED BY THE CARDINALS, I THINK WE MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT THEM LATER, ABOUT ALCOHOL.

WE'VE GOT THE CARDINALS AND THE BIG BUSINESSES PITTED AGAINST THE RESIDENTS.

IN MOST COMMUNITIES, THERE ARE COUPLE OF THINGS PEOPLE BUILD AROUND FOR DOWNTOWNS.

ONE, OUR RESIDENTS AND WHETHER THEY ARE CONDO OWNERS, BUSINESS OWNERS AND LIGHT RAIL.

BUT THE POINT IS, THAT'S WHAT THEY BUILD AROUND.

WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS WE CAN BE DOING DOWNTOWN.

ONE OF WHICH, THE LAST THING IS TO CUT RESIDENTS OUT OF SAY OF BARS, LIQUOR LICENSES.

WEAPON DON'T NEED MORE LIQUOR LICENSES DOWNTOWN, ESPECIALLY.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE GOT TO STOP DISRESPECTING THE RESIDENTS.

WE HAVE TOO MANY OF THESE -- LET ME FINISH.

>> LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT BRED AND BREAD AND BREAKFASTS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIQUOR LICENSES.

MY FORMER SON-IN-LAW HAS BEEN TRYING FOR OVER A YEAR TO GET A LIQUOR LICENSE FOR A RESTAURANT IN THE GROVE.

HE'S FINALLY GETTING IT.

IT HAS BEEN JUMPING THROUGH HOOPS AND THROUGH HOOPS.

THIS IDEA DISRESPECTING THE RESIDENTS.

IT'S GIVING BUSINESSMEN A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK.

>> NO, THE THING WE GOT TO DO AMONG OTHER THINGS, WE GOT SHORT RUN RENTALS, AIRBNBs, WHICH ARE THE BAIN OF THE EXISTENCE.

THEY HAVE HOUSE PARTIES.

ALMOST ALL OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS WANT OUT DOWNTOWN.

I WON'T MENTION IT.

IT'S GOT A NICKNAME.

GUESS WHO'S KEEPING THEM FROM DOING IT?

THE CITY GOVERNMENT.

WE DON'T GIVE ENOUGH DEFERENCE TO THE PEOPLE LIVING DOWNTOWN.

>> IF PASTA HOUSE WANTED TO OPEN A PASTA HOUSE WITH A LIQUOR LICENSE IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOMELESS PARK, CITY WOULD SAY BAM, YOU GOT A LIQUOR LICENSE.

>> YOU HAVE TO GET SIGNATURES NOW.

>> THEY WOULD GET THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE.

>> THIS IS ABOUT THE HIGH SPEED RAIL EQUATION.

WHEN YOU GOT THE OKAY CORRAL DURING THE WEEKEND AND ON THE EVENINGS, IT'S MORE ALCOHOL.

IS THAT THE WAY TO GO?

I KNOW THEY PROBABLY WILL NOT GOING TO RESTAURANTS.

>> LET'S HAVE PROHIBITION IN ST. LOUIS.

>> WENDY IS RIGHT.

HOW MANY SIGNATURES DO I HAVE TO GET TO OPEN UP A DISPENSARY?

>> YOU HAVE TO GET A LOT OF THEM.

>> HOW YOU KNOW?

[ LAUGHTER ] >> THERE AREN'T ENOUGH EXCISE COMMISSIONERS EMPLOYEES TO OVERSEE THESE BARS.

NOR THERE ARE ENOUGH POLICE IN THE CITY TO MONITOR THE ACTIVITY IN THE BEHAVIOR AT THE BARS.

>> WE NEED MORE ALCOHOL ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.

IT PAYS THE SALARY.

>> IN THE REAL WORLD, PEOPLE BUY DRINKS.

PEOPLE WANT TO OPEN UP RESTAURANTS AND BARS THAT SELL DRINKS.

THAT'S A REALITY AND TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING, IS TO BE BLIND TO THE FACT THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CRIME AND PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR AND ALL THAT.

>> I AM PROBAR.

I THINK IT'S FINE.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BARS AND LIQUOR LICENSE.

TO CUT THE RESIDENTS OUT OF ANY SAY IS WRONG.

>> RAY, WHAT MY FORMER SON-IN-LAW HAD TO GO THROUGH, HE GOT EVERYBODY SIGNATURE.

THERE WAS ONE WOMAN OUT OF THE COUNTRY.

HE SAID I'LL GET HERS AS SOON AS SHE GETS BACK.

THEY SAID, WELL, YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER HEARING IN SEVEN MONTHS.

THIS IS THE SORT OF THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE CARDINALS DECIDING TO SELL BEER THROUGH -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] THE GAMES ARE SHORTER.

THE CARDINALS DECIDED INSTEAD OF ENDING EARLIER, YOU CAN BUY BEER.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM STOP SERVING BEER IN THE BULLPEN BEFORE THE SEVENTH INNING.

[ LAUGHTER ] I THINK THAT WILL BE A START.

I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING.

>> RICK ANKIEL TALKS ABOUT HOW HE DID DRINK AN ENTIRE BOTTLE OF VODKA WHILE PITCHING AGAINST RANDY JOHNSON AND HE WON.

MAY BE THE CARDINALS NEED TO DRINK MORE BEER.

>> I CAN REMEMBER WATCHING HIM DURING THE TIME HE WAS STRUGGLING AND DRINKING AN ENTIRE BOTTLE OF VODKA AFTERWARDS.

LET'S BE CLEAR.

THE CARDINALS, THIS IS SO HYPOCRITICAL.

YES, SERVING BEER LATE IN A BALL GAME DOES IMPACT THE BEHAVIOR OF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE BALLPARK.

I'M NOT INTO PROHIBITION, IT AFFECTS.

WHAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT ME IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE WINDING ABOUT CRIME.

THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO MAKE THE SACRIFICE.

IT'S ALWAYS NOT ME.

IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM.

THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY SAME WAY.

ALL THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS OTHER PEOPLE PROBLEM.

I'M FINE WITH THEM.

>> WE'RE GOING TO THE BALLPARK AND HAVING A BEER IN THE 6th, 7th OR ATth INNING IS NOT PART OF THE CRIME PROBLEM.

IT'S LIKE THE WHOLE LIKE, YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T GOING TO EXPAND THE HOURS BUT THEN YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE GAMES ARE SHORTER.

LOOK, IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT T TELL THE POLICE CHIEF DO LIGHT STOPS AROUND THE STADIUM.

THEY'LL SAY WE'LL NEVER DO THAT.

WE'LL ARREST THE WRONG PEOPLE.

>> LET ME ASK YOU, ALVIN, YOU WROTE A SPORTS COLUMN FOR THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.

WHAT ABOUT STAN KROENKE, THE LEAST LIKED GUY IN ST. LOUIS, DENVER NUGGETS JUST WON THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP.

NOW SENSE HE LEFT TOWN, HE WON THE SUPER BOWL, THE STANLEY CUP AND NOW AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP.

MORE POWER TO HIM.

>> THE MAN IS GONE.

HE TRASHED US ON THE WAY OUT.

THIS WHOLE I HATE STAN KROENKE THING IS JUVENILE AND NEED TO MOVE ON.

>> WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE STORY ON TWITTER WAS THE MIZZOU FACTION THAT WAS SO ENRAGED.

THEY SAID, THIS IS DISLOYAL.

HOW CAN YOU CONGRATULATE THE KROENKE FAMILY FOR WHAT THEY DID.

DON'T DONATE TO MIZZOU.

IT REMINDS ME OF ANIMAL HOUSE.

THAT WAS SET, TECHNICALLY AT MIZZOU IN A FICTIONAL COLLEGE.

IT'S JUST LIKE D-DAY HAD TO EXPLAIN TO FLOUNDER WITH MR. KROENKE.

WE MESSED UP.

WE TRUSTED YOU.

WE JUST GOT TO LET IT GO.

>> I LIKE HAVING A VILLAIN.

>> IT'S NICE.

>> I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING HEALTHY ABOUT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY CAN AGREE ON ONE THING, THAT'S STAN KROENKE.

[ APPLAUSE ] >> I HAVE TAKEN A SHOCKING NUMBER OF UNPOPULAR POSITIONS.

I'M NOT WALKING THAT PLANK.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR HIS NAME.

I'M A BIG MIAMI HEAT FAN.

I FELT THAT THIS WAS REALLY SAD MOMENT IN HUMAN HISTORY.

I WILL SAY THIS, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY FUN AT KROENKE'S EXPENSE, PLAY BACK THE TAPE ON HIM ON MIC.

IT WAS SO CRINGE WORTHY TO HIM HIM TALK TO THE FANS THERE.

I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT BEHIND US.

>> I REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS FIRST INTRODUCED HERE.

THE GUY WITH MONEY WHO WAS GOING TO BUY A TEAM AND HE WAS SO PAINFULLY SHY.

HE SAID, I'M A PRIVATE PERSON.

WHEN THE TV GUYS HOLLER, HOW MUCH YOU WORTH, STAN.

YOU CAN SEE HIM GO CRINGE.

I FELT SORRY FOR THE MAN.

>> GUESS WHAT ANIMAL HOUSE SUPPOSED TO BE SHOT PEOPLE, GOOD PEOPLE OF ST. LOUIS DECIDED WE CAN'T HAVE THIS HERE.

IT WAS WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY.

>> PEEKING OF WASH-U, DO YOU KNOW WHO WROTE THE SCHOOL FIGHT SONG?

PAUL McCARTNEY?

>> BARRY MANILOW.

>> RAY.

CHARLES HARTMANN.

HE WROTE IT IN THE '50s.

TO SAY THAT THE MUSICAL -- IT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

I WAS WEANED ON WASHINGTON SPORTS AS A KID.

>> WHERE DID THE HARTMANN ORCHESTRA PLAY?

DID THEY HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE.

>> WE'RE GOING TO GET TO YOUR QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE.

ONE IS IN OUR VIEWING AUDIENCE.

DALIA ABUSECY.

>> SHE'S NOT HERE.

WE HOPE SHE'S HAVING A PLEASANT DONNYBASH.

>> BACK ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO, WE TALKED AT LENGTH ON THIS PROGRAM AND AROUND THE NATION ABOUT THE WORK OF ONE MARGARET GILLEO WHO LIVED IN LADUE.

SHE PUT A SIGN UP, PEACE IN THE MIDEAST.

IT WAS DURING THE GULF WAR.

CITY OF LADUE KEPT TAKING IT DOWN.

SHE KEPT PUTTING IT BACK UP.

SAYING IT WAS HER CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

SHE WENT TO THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IN FEBRUARY 1994 AND THE LADUE LAWYERS, LAUGHTER BROKE AMONG THE JUSTICES 12 TIMES.

LISTENING TO LADUE'S ARGUMENT SAYING IT'S OKAY TO NO TRESPASSING OR STAY OFF THE LAWN SIGN BUT NO SIGN THAT SAYS PEACE ON EARTH.

>> BY THE WAY >> WE LOST MARGARET GILLEO THIS WEEK.

>> SHE WAS A HERO AND ACTIVIST.

I DON'T REMEMBER MUCH, THAT WAS A BIG TOPIC ON DONNYBROOK IN THE EARLY DAYS.

IT WAS QUITE A MATTER OF PUBLIC ATTENTION.

>> SHE WAS NOT SOMEBODY THAT YOU WOULD AUTOMATICALLY HAVE BELIEVED TO HAVE BEEN AN ACTIVIST.

VERY LOW KEY.

>> SHE WAS AN ACTIVIST ON EVERYTHING.

SHE WANTED TO SAVE THE WHALES.

>> GOOD FORTUNE TALKING TO HER AT HER HOME ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE STAYED ON EXCELLENT TERMS WITH THE MAYOR OF LADUE.

HE OPPOSED HER.

THEY MET IN THE LADY'S ROOM.

THEY HELPED EACH OTHER WITH THEIR HATS OR WHATEVER THEY WERE WEARING.

THEY HAD A NICE CONVERSATION.

I WISH THERE WAS MORE OF THAT THESE DAYS IN THE UNITED STATES.

[ APPLAUSE ] I AGREE.

>> WE HAVE A TIME FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE THE FIRST QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

>> I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO DONNYBROOK SINCE THE SHOW FIRST CAME ON.

ME AND MY GRANDMOTHER WOULD WATCH IT TOGETHER WHEN I WAS TWILL YEARS OLD.

THAT TELLS HOW LONG THE SHOW HAS BEEN ON THE AIR IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHITE HAIR AND MY BEARD.

I GOT THE DONNYBROOK T-SHIRT.

[ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU.

>> NOW, HERE'S THE TIME FOR THE TOUGH MEDICINE.

I REPRESENT ST. LOUIS WHEREVER I GO IN THE WORLD.

YESTERDAY LAST YEAR I WAS IN POLAND.

I WENT TO UKRAINIAN REFUGEES, I GAVE THEM GIFTS FROM ST. LOUIS.

I SAID IF YOU COMING TO AMERICA, PLEASE CONSIDER ST. LOUIS.

I WAS IN JERUSALEM, I WAS AT THE WESTERN WALL.

I PUT IN 700 HOME RUNS FOR ALBERT PUJOLS.

YOU CAN THANK ME FOR THE 700.

WE HAVE A PROBLEM OF BEING OUR OWN WORST ENEMY.

YOU TALK ABOUT THE CONVENTION, BUSINESS DOWNTOWN.

THAT'S A PHONY STORY.

ST. LOUIS HAS BEEN A VIOLENT CITY FOREVER.

SINCE BEFORE MY LIFETIME.

I SPEAK FROM FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE.

IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, MY BROTHER-IN-LAW WAS KILLED IN SOULARD, MY NEPHEW WAS KILLED ON THE WEST SIDE OF ST. LOUIS, MY MOTHER WAS KILLED IN KIRKWOOD.

I KNOW HOW LETHAL THESE STREETS CAN BE IN ST. LOUIS.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT.

IT IS NOT DANGEROUS TO COME HERE FOR A CONVENTION.

>> ALL RIGHT MAN, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> WE'RE SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANOTHER QUESTION.

BILL FROM ROCK HILL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

>> I LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS TO WENDY.

YOU WERE COMPLAINING THAT 110 MILES PER HOUR ISN'T FAST ENOUGH.

WELL, IF YOU WANT THE TBG, YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO ANTE UP.

LARGE PART OF THE PROBLEM, YOU WANT ANYTHING RAIL IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU'LL HAVE A BUNCH OF POLITICAL CONSERVATIVES CALLING YOU A SOCIALIST.

IN EUROPE THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

IN EUROPE, EVERY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION GETS ITS SHARE.

IF THIS COUNTRY, IF IT RUNS ON PAVEMENT FLOATS IN THE WATER IF IT'S HIGH SPEED RAIL, AMTRAK, METROLINK, THEY WILL CALL YOU A SOCIALIST FOR ASKING.

>> THANK YOU, BILL.

>> THIS IS GREAT.

I GUYS ARE WONDERFUL.

MY WIFE LOVES YOU.

IT'S GREAT.

ANYWAY, ON A LIGHTER NOTE, I LIKE TO KNOW ALL YOU GUYS REALLY LIKE EACH OTHER?

[ LAUGHTER ] >> YES YES, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE.

BILL AND RAY HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER SINCE 1987.

I JOINED IN '92.

EVERY WEEK SINCE 2010.

>> MY YOUNGEST DAUGHTER IS 22.

FIRST TIME I WAS ON THE SHOW, SHE WAS DELETE DAY DAY -- THREE DAYS OLD.

>> BEFORE EVERY DONNYBASH, WE HAVE LITTLE COOMBYA MOMENT IN THE GREEN ROOM.

>> WE ARE A FAMILY.

>> WE LOVE EACH OTHER.

WE'RE A FAMILY.

>> THIS MAY BE A DATE IN REFERENCE.

WE EMULATE A SPIRITED FAMILY DINNER TIME ARGUMENT.

I'M SERIOUS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT SEEMS MORE AND MORE TO BE A THING OF THE PAST IN OUR WORLD.

WE ARE A FAMILY.

>> WHEN YOU SAY IT'S LIKE DINNER TIME.

MY WIFE, MARY, KNOWS EVERYBODY THERE.

SOMETIMES SHE SAYS, WHY DO YOU ARGUE WITH RAY SO MUCH.

I SAY HONEY IT'S LIKE WHEN THE KIDS WERE LITTLE AT DINNER, THEY START AND THEY PUSH IT AND PUSH IT.

I HAVE TO SAY, STOP IT.

>> HE'S LIKE A FATHER FIGURE.

>> I'LL BE HONEST, THERE'S A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS WHEN I DIDN'T TALK TO RAY.

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS RIGHT TO INTERRUPT HIM.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> I HAVE THREE QUICK QUESTIONS.

RELATED TO CHICAGO.

WE WERE IN CHICAGO TWO WEEKS AGO.

MY SON MOVE THE UP THERE.

WALKED AROUND CHICAGO.

HIGH CRIME, TOTALLY CROWDED STREETS.

NEVER FELT OUT OF PLACE.

IT WAS WONDERFUL WHEREAS ST. LOUIS, WE CAN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND.

GET SOME BUSINESS DOWN, HAVE SOME PEOPLE DOWN HERE.

WHEN CONVENTIONS ARE HERE, EVERYTHING GREAT.

LOVE THE TRAIN.

WE TOOK THE TRAIN BACK 120 MILES AN HOUR.

FELT GREAT.

LOVED IT.

CHARLIE, HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED PUTTING A TIME LIMIT ON RESPONSES?

RAY.

[ LAUGHTER ] I WAS JUST WONDERING.

THANK YOU.

>> WHO'S NEXT?

>> ONE OF THE FUTURE TRAIN TRAVEL WILL BE TUBE TRAVEL.

UNDERGROUND RAILROADS THAT CAN GO 300 MILES AN HOUR BUT THEY ARE VERY SAFE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TUBE OR A SECTION AROUND THEM.

LOOK FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE.

UNFORTUNATELY IT'S EXPENSIVE.

ONE THING THAT THE CHINESE AND JAPANESE HAVE FOUND IS, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE AN AIRPLANE, YOU FILL IT WITH 200 PEOPLE, THAT'S ALL YOU CAN TAKE.

IF YOU HAVE A TRAIN, YOU CAN ADD ON CARS AND TAKE 2000 PEOPLE.

TWO TRAVELERS REALLY A POSSIBILITY IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

>> THANK YOU, GIG.

>> I'M THE TUBE GUY.

>> I THINK TUBES ARE GREAT.

>> DO WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE?

>> I'M SORRY IF I MISS THE YOUR DEBATE ON COVID RELIEF FUNDS.

UNUSED FUNDS IS SITTING IN THE BANK.

SHOULD THAT BE RETURNED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?

HAVE YOU GUYS DEBATED THIS?

COULD YOU SPEND A MOMENT DEBATING IT?

>> I NEED MY HOUSE PAINTED.

YOU CAN FLOAT SOME THAT WAY.

IT'S IN THE CITY.

IT'S OUR MONEY.

WE HAVE TO DECIDE HOW TO SPEND IT AND WHEN TO SPEND IT.

IT'S OURS.

IT'LL DO GOOD, EVENTUALLY.

>> I WISH THEY WOULD MOVE IT FASTER.

NO.

ALVIN SAYS, I AGREE.

I THINK THIS SHOULD BE SPENT FASTER.

THEY ARE NOT SPENDING IT TOO FAST CAN BE WORSE THAN NOT SPENDING WITH THE RIGHT KIND OF SAFEGUARDS.

IT'S EASY FROM AFAR TO CRITICIZE.

>> HOW DO YOU KNOW POLITICIANS IS NOT WAITING FOR ELECTION YEAR TO SPEND THAT MONEY?

>> I DON'T THINK IT GETS WISELY.

>> BY THE WAY, THAT'S NEXT YEAR.

>> THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

>> TIME FOR ONE MORE QUESTION FROM EVIE.

THIS YOUNG LOVELY WOMAN IS THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF BILL McCLELLAN.

[ APPLAUSE ] >> HELLO.

WHERE YOU DO GET THE BEST MILK SHAKES?

>> WELL, I THINK YOU KNOW WHERE I FEEL.

CROWN CANDY KITCHEN.

[ APPLAUSE ] >> HARD TO BEAT THAT.

TED DREWS.

HE DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB.

>> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE MENU.

STEAK AND SHAKE STILL MAKES A BOMB VANILLA SHAKE.

CLEMENTINES.

>> I'M NOT ARGUING.

WE GOT TO THANK THIS AUDIENCE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>> HAVE A GREAT NIGHT [ APPLAUSE ] >> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.

[ APPLAUSE ]