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ALVIN REED SITTING IN FOR CHARLIE BRENNAN TODAY ON DONNYBROOK.

WENDY WIESE IS HERE.

SITTING IN FOR BILL McCLELLAN IS JOE HOLLEMAN OF THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

LONE FOUNDER TODAY IS RAY HARTMANN FROM SUBSTACK.

NONE OF THEM HAD BAD NEWS ON FATHER'S DAY.

WE AWOKE TO MASS SHOOTING THAT LEFT ONE TEENAGER DEAD IN A OFFICE BUILDING ON WASHINGTON AVENUE.

DETAILS HOW THE TEENAGERS GOTTEN IN ARE STILL COMING OUT.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU CAN'T SAY WE'RE SHOCKED ANYMORE.

>> ESPECIALLY ON FATHER'S DAY.

JUST THE IMPACT OF THESE CHILDREN -- BECAUSE THEY ARE -- THEY ARE GETTING YOUNGER AND YOUNGER.

IT SEEMS THEY ARE GETTING YOUNGER AND YOUNGER.

THEY'RE IN SUCH A HURRY TO GROW UP.

ALL TEENAGERS ARE ALWAYS IN OURRY TO GROW UP.

THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS, TO RESOLVE ANY ISSUE WITH A GUN.

THESE ARE JUST GENERATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LOST.

IF WE CAN'T GET THIS SITUATION IN HAND.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE DOORS WERE PROPPED OPEN.

SOMEBODY HAS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF SYSTEM OR SOME SYSTEM THAT IS IN PLACE WHERE IF YOU HAVE KIDS THAT CONGREGATE OR ANY GROUP THAT CONGREGATE IN A BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SECURITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT SECURITY WAS.

>> THERE'S BEEN SO MANY TIMES WHERE THERE'S BEEN ONE OF THESE INCIDENTS DOWNTOWN.

WE'RE SAYING IF WE HAD MORE OF POLICE PRESENCE.

I DON'T KNOW ANY POLICE PRESENCE IN THE WORLD THAT CAN STOP SOMETHING AT THIS PRIVATE OFFICE BUILDING YOU HAVE TO QUESTION THE SECURITY IN BUILDING.

IT'S VERY UNUSUAL SOMETHING SO EASY TO GET INTO THAT TEENS WERE IN THERE FOR SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.

THEY ADVERTISED THIS PARTY AHEAD ON DIRECT MESSAGES ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

THEY KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE.

I THINK THIS PROPERTY OWNER COULD BE IN TROUBLE LEGALLY.

>> EVERYBODY WANTS TO POINT THEIR FINGER AT ONE OTHER THING.

FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW WE'VE HAD DISAGREEMENT ABOUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR RAISING KIDS.

THERE'S 14 AND 15-YEAR-OLDS DOWN THERE AT 1:00 AND 1:30.

AT SOME POINT A PARENT HAS TO BE THERE.

ONCE A PARENT IS ADULT AND NOT SUBJECT TO CURFEW.

TEENAGERS WILL MAKE KNUCKLEHEADED DECISIONS.

I DID.

THERE HAS TO BE INCREASED POLICE PRESENCE.

>> THERE HAS TO BE BETTER SECURITY.

THERE HAS TO BE LEGISLATION THAT LIMITS SOME OF THESE SHORT-TERM AIRBNB TYPE RENTALS WHERE YOU CAN THROW A PARTY ANYWHERE.

I DO THINK ONE KIND OF FALLOUT ABOUT IT WAS, I KNOW IT WAS DISCUSSED ON THE SHOW A BIT, CARA SPENCER INTRODUCED A BILL ABOUT HANDGUNS, OPEN AND CARRY.

HER POLITICAL OPPONENTS WERE REALLY QUICK TO KIND OF SLAM THAT BILL.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, AFTER THIS ISN'T ON FATHER'S DAY, THEY ARE KIND OF QUIET.

IT DOES SEEM TO BE PROCEEDING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING WORKED ON, CLEAR UP SOME LANGUAGE.

I THINK THERE'S.WHOLE NEW APPROACH NOW WHEN PEOPLE WANTED TO SAY, WELL, THAT'S A BAD IDEA.

THAT WON'T HELP ANYTHING.

NOW THEY'RE SAYING WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.

OPPOSED TO BLAME IT HERE AND THERE.

DO WHAT YOU CAN DO AND ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY ELSE.

>> I THINK THE ONE THING EVERYONE HAS IN COMMON IS NONE OF HAS THE ANSWER.

IN A STRANGE WAY, IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT CAN CROSS THE POLITICAL DIVIDE.

YES, GUNS ARE NEEDED.

MORE POLICE ARE NEEDED.

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.

I HATE TO DO THAT TO YOU, THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS A HUGE PROBLEM.

IT'S AN EXAMPLE WHERE ANYONE THINKS THEIR SIDE OR THEIR POINT OF VIEW S A QUICK FIX.

THIS IS JUST UNACCEPTABLE.

IT SHOULD BE UNACCEPTABLE FOR EVERYBODY.

REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE.

THIS IS A BIG THING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ACROSS PARTY LINES.

>> IS IT A COINCIDENCE THAT IT HAPPENED ON WASHINGTON AVENUE?

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, I'M JUST TALKING LIKE THEORETICALLY.

I DON'T GET HOW WASHINGTON AVENUE.

WHAT'S UP WITH WASHINGTON AVENUE?

>> I DON'T SAY IT'S A COINCIDENCE.

THERE ARE OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY.

SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD HAPPEN.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD NOT GIVE UP, FO FOR EXAMPLE, ON WASHINGTON AVENUE.

WE GOT TO RECOGNIZE, THIS IS REALLY BECOMING A CRISIS.

IT ISN'T JUST A PROBLEM.

>> IT TERMS OF THE WASHINGTON AVENUE QUESTION, IT HAS THIS PERCEPTION AS BEING LIKE THE PARTY PLACE.

YOU GET PEOPLE COMING FROM THE COUNTY, COMING FROM ACROSS THE RIVER, TEENS ALL COMING DOWN TO THIS PLACE.

IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE MUCH FOR TEENS TO DO IF YOU'RE 21.

WHEN THE MAYOR EXTENDED THE HOURS AT SOME OF THOSE RECREATION CENTERS, I THINK THAT WAS WRONG.

PART OF THE PROBLEM HERE, THERE'S NOT REALLY A PLACE FOR TEENS TO CONGREGATE IN THE WAY THAT BACK IN THE DAY, WE USED TO ALL HANG OUT AT THE MALL FOR HOURS ON END.

THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT ANYMORE.

>> I THINK WHEN GIVEN A PLACE LIKE WASHINGTON AVENUE OR A REC CENTER -- >> I GET IT.

AT LEAST GIVE AN OPTION FOR KIDS WHO DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE.

>> I'M ALL FOR THE OPTIONS.

I AGREE.

WHAT I DON'T LIKE TO SEE IS WHEN PEOPLE WILL GO, WELL THAT SHOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM OPEN UP THOSE COMMUNITY CENTERS.

THAT'S ONE LITTLE PIECE.

>> I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SAID THAT.

>> IT GETS PRESENTED BEING THIS WE HAVE TO EXPAND THE COMMUNITY CENTER HOURS.

LIKE, OKAY, QUESTION.

WHAT ABOUT SIX OTHER THINGS YOU SHOULD MENTION.

IF ANYBODY THINKS THAT'S GOING TO BE SOME PANACEA THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS, I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN ON YOUR RADIO SHOW, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE -- THERE'S A GROUP OF TEENAGERS WHO ARE NOT SITTING AROUND GOING, WELL, I CAN EITHER GO TO SHOOT SOME HOOF OR GO SMOKE SOME WEED AND DO BLUNTS AND SHOOT GUNS.

IT'S ALWAYS THE KNUCKLEHEADS WHO WILL MAKE THAT BAD CHOICE.

GREAT, OPEN UP COMMUNITY CENTERS.

GIVE THOSE KIDS WHO MIGHT BE SUCKED INTO IT OR ACCIDENTALLY TAKEN IN BY IT.

ALSO, BE AWARE THERE'S THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE AWESOME GOING TO MAKE THE BAD CHOICES.

YOU HAVE TO ENFORCE THE LAW ON THOSE PEOPLE.

>> THIS IS HARD.

WHAT YOU SAID IS A LITTLE HARD TO RELATE TO FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME WHEN I WAS A TEEN.

>> WERE THERE GENERAL STORES?

[ LAUGHTER ] >> NORTHWEST PLAZA WAS OPEN.

>> WE HAD TO CHECK OUR GUNS AT THE DOOR.

>> WE WERE GETTING TOGETHER FOR THE SHOW, THERE WAS A PRESS CONFERENCE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS.

WE WERE HERE.

MAY BE SOME OTHER THINGS ARE DISCUSSED.

I CAN'T BE MAD FOR EXPANDING THE HOURS FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

THE FAMILY OF JANAE EDMONDSON SUES THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS IN CONNECTION WITH THE ACCIDENT THAT COST HER BOTH LEGS BEING AMPUTATED.

I WILL TURN TO YOU, JOE, OBVIOUSLY, KIM GARDNER WAS INVOLVED, THE CITIFULS INVOLVED.

OBVIOUSLY EVEN THOUGH 22nd CIRCUIT COURT WAS INVOLVED.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO YOU IN THE CITY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE LIKE THAT, CAN YOU WIN A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY?

IS THIS ONE THAT THIS FAMILY COULD WIN BECAUSE OF THE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED?

>> WIN IS ONE OF THOSE FUZZY WORDS.

IT'S NOT A CRIMINAL TRIAL WHERE GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY.

THIS IS LEVELS OF LIABILITY.

FIRST OF ALL, NOBODY IS SURPRISED THAT A LAWSUIT IS FILED.

THIS WAS BEYOND TRAGIC.

THAT WORD GETS USED WAY TOO MANY TIMES.

THIS WAS AN ABSOLUTE WORSE CASE SCENARIO FOR THEIR FAMILY TO SAY THE VERY LEAST FOR THE CITY, FOR CITY OFFICIALS.

THEY COULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANY WORSE.

THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE FILING SUIT, IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME ONE BIT.

MY GUESS THIS NEVER GOES TO TRIAL.

THERE'S ONE THING TO SAY, SOMEBODY GOING AND THEY'RE GOING TO ARGUE.

NOBODY WANTS THAT YOUNG LADY TO TAKE A STAND OR HAVE TO TAKE A STAND AND DESCRIBE WHAT HAPPENED TO HER.

THIS WILL GET SETTLED.

THE CITY WILL WANT TO SETTLE IT.

EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS WILL WANT THIS TO GO AWAY AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

WHAT I HOPE HAPPENS IS, IS THERE IS SOME RENUMERATION FOR THIS YOUNG LADY THAT WILL DO SOME SMALL PART TO ALLEVIATE THE BURDEN SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BEAR FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE.

IN A SENSE, I GUESS, I'M HOPING SHE WINS IN THE GENERAL SENSE OF THAT TERM.

I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE SEEING A TRIAL WHERE THERE'S A DECISION MADE.

I DON'T THINK THIS GETS THAT FAR.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT.

THE WORSE CASE WOULD HAVE BEEN IF SHE HAD DIED.

I KNOW LOT OF PEOPLE HAD THE PRIVILEGE KNOWING LOT OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WHO GONE ON BEST OF LIFE.

SHE SURE SEEMS LIKE SOMEBODY WE ALL WISH THE BEST FOR.

I THINK SHE'LL HAVE A GREAT LIFE AHEAD OF HER.

WHEN YOU HAVE A LIABILITY SITUATION, OFTENTIMES YOUR DAMAGES ARE GREATER IF YOU ARE ALIVE.

I THINK THAT THE CITY HAS -- I AGREE WITH YOU IT WILL BE SETTLED.

PARTLY BECAUSE, THE CITY'S LIABILITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALL THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UNDERSTANDABLY ABOUT WHETHER THIS PERSON SHOULD BE INCARCERATED.

THAT'S NOT -- ACTUALLY IT WASN'T.

WHAT THE CITY COULD BE LIABLE FOR, I THINK IS HAVING AN UNSAFE INTERSECTION.

THAT WILL BE THEIR LIABILITY.

PRETTY SURE.

I AGREE WITH YOU, SHE CERTAINLY ENTITLED TO DAMAGES AND TO THE EXTENT SHE CAN PROVE THERE WAS NEGLIGENCE EFFECTIVELY.

I THINK WE SHOULD REMEMBER, THIS COULD HAPPEN ANYWHERE.

ALL THE THING WE TALK ABOUT IS A CITY PROBLEM OR DOWNTOWN PROBLEM.

THIS REALLY -- IT'S A HORRIBLE THING THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED ANYWHERE.

>> IT DIDN'T.

>> MISMANAGEMENT THAT WAS GOING ON IN THAT OFFICE, THE ODDS OF IT HAPPENING HERE WERE GREATER THAN SOME CERT -- OTHER PLACES.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE A CASE.

>> IT'S A LEGITIMATE PART OF THE POLITICAL DISCUSSION.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT FAMILY'S ATTORNEYS WON'T BRING THAT UP?

>> I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD BRING IT UP.

I DO NOT THINK THAT AN ARGUMENT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS PERSON SHOULD BE DRIVING -- POLITICALLY IT WILL.

>> WE'LL GET TO THE NUMBER ON THE SETTLEMENT.

YOU'RE ARGUING BACK-AND-FORTH ON LIKE CAN WE BRING THIS.

HOW STRONG IS THIS CASE AND HOW DAMAGING IS THIS TESTIMONY.

THEY'LL BE FIGHTING OVER EVERY DETAIL.

>> IF THERE WERE A DUI CASE, I CAN SEE POSSIBLY.

HE WASN'T BEING LOCKED UP FOR DRIVING.

>> THE CITY IS GOING TO SETTLE NOT BECAUSE IT WAS A BAD INTERSECTION.

THE CITY IS GOING TO SETTLE BECAUSE ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF IS GOING TO COME OUT.

OKAY.

I THINK THE CITY COULD BEAT A BAD INTERSECTION.

>> THEY DON'T WANT THIS DISCUSSION AND ALL OF THESE THINGS IN A COURTROOM.

WHILE THE YOUNG LADY WHO LOST BOTH LEGS IS SITTING THERE.

THAT'S WHY NONE OF THIS HAPPENS.

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT RELEVANT FOR DISCUSSION.

I DO NOT THINK IT AFFECTS THE LIABILITY.

>> HEATHER TAYLOR, FORMER ST. LOUIS POLICE OFFICER, SUED, SHE GOT CANNED BECAUSE THEY WAS A WHISTLEBLOWER.

SHE WON $300,000 AND THEY SETTLED.

NOW THE CITY WANTS TO CLAW IT BACK BECAUSE SHE DID NOT TURN OVER VITAL INFORMATION THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED IN HER HEARING.

RAY, FAIR FIGHT?

>> I'M LITTLE BIASED.

HEATHER TAYLOR I THINK 20-YEAR OFFICER.

REALLY CIVICALLY HERE IN TERMS HER ROLE.

I THINK IT WAS OUTRAGEOUS ON THE PART OF THE CITY COUNSELOR AND THE CITY.

FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE LEGAL ISSUES WHETHER IT MET THE DISCLOSURES.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THE CITY IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO GO AFTER HEATHER TAYLOR.

IT REMINDS ME EXACTLY WHEN THE CITY COUNSELOR WHO -- FIRST CAME IN, THEY WENT WAY BEYOND WHAT THEY HAD TO DO TO TRY TO APPEAL ON BEHALF OF QUALIFIED IMMUNITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING MOST OF US DESPISE.

>> LET'S STICK TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> IF THE CITY COUNSELOR HAS AN OBLIGATION TO DEFEND POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THEY ARE ACCUSED, DON'T HAVE AN OPTION TO MAKE A CAUSE OUT OF THIS.

HEATHER TAYLOR WON HER CASE.

I GUESS THEY CAN APPEAL THE AMOUNT.

THE IDEA THAT THEY WOULD GO BACK AFTER HEATHER TAYLOR IS MEAN SPIRITED.

IT RAISES THE QUESTION WHO'S SIDE WERE YOU ON.

SHE WAS DISCRIMINATED AGAINST RACIALLY.

THIS IS LIKE THROWING DOWN FOR THE PEOPLE DISCRIMINATING.

>> THIS WAS A STORY IN THE "RIVERFRONT TIMES."

I DO WANT TO SAY, SHE WAS NOT FIRED.

SHE WAS RETALIATED AGAINST.

SHE DID RETIRE IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE DEPARTMENT.

WHAT'S INTERESTING HERE IS SHE CAME BACK, TISHAURA JONES, HIRED HER TO BE HIGH UP IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

DIDN'T APPOINTEE OF MAYOR JONES THE CITY COUNSELOR IS GOING AFTER THIS.

IT'S INTERESTING TENSION.

>> ISN'T THAT THE WAY THINGS SHOULD BE?

>> I WONDER DOES IT HAPPEN TO BE WHEN HEATHER TAYLOR WAS FIGHTING FOR RAISES FOR THE POLICE UP IN JEFFERSON CITY?

THAT PUT HER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF TISHAURA JONES AS I RECALL.

THE GREAT THING IS, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT FORM IS A LONG TIME.

THING HAVE CHANGED.

BACK IN 1600 ENGLAND.

>> SHE IS STILL IN THIS POSITION WORKING FOR THE MAYOR.

>> THERE'S VARYING DEGREES OF IT.

>> NOW THEY HAVE 400 DIFFERENT AUDIO RECORDINGS THEY FOUND OUT SHE HAD.

SHE PROVIDED THIS TO A DIFFERENT OFFICER WHO'S DOING THE STUDY.

I HAVE TO THINK THEY ARE MAD ABOUT THAT.

>> THEY ARE.

THERE'S COUPLE OF POINTS OF IRONY.

SHE WAS DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.

B, RETALIATED AGAINST.

NOW THEY'RE RETALIATING AGAINST HER NOW IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM.

OTHER BIT IRONY IS, OFFICER GREENE, AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WHO WAS SHOT BY A POLICE OFFICER.

THAT'S THE CASE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SHE HAPPEN, I THINK, SHE HAD A TAPE SHE HAPPEN TO BE FRIENDS WITH THIS OFFICER.

SHE CAME ACROSS A MEETING, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE AGGRESSIVE IN FINDING TAPES LIKE THIS.

SHE HAPPEN TO GIVE THIS ONE AND THAT TRIGGERED THIS WHOLE CASE.

THAT'S A CASE WHERE THE CITY LOOKS REALLY BAD ON THAT OFFICER BEING SHOT.

I THINK IT REALLY IS JUST UNNECESSARY.

THERE'S NO REASON TO BE GOING AFTER HEATHER TAYLOR.

>> ALL RIGHT.

350 PEOPLE SHOW UP IN A MEETING.

CHARLES LIBRARY IS THE TOPIC.

HOW A MAN IS DRESSING AS A LADY WHO WORKS IN THE LIBRARY.

SARAH, I WISH 350 PEOPLE WOULD COME TO THE LIBRARY AND CHECK OUT A BOOK.

>> WHAT A TEMPEST IN A TEACUP IN ST. CHARLES, YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TURNING OUT THAT THIS LIBRARY EMPLOYEE HAS A GOATEE AND WEARING SOME MAKE-UP AND HAD FINGERNAIL POLISH ON.

THIS MOTHER IS SO UPSET, SHE'S GOTTEN THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY ALL WIND OCCUP -- WIND UP ABOUT THIS.

THE CHILDREN WILL TURN OUT FINE.

THE IMPORTANT THING WHETHER THEY HAVE ACCESS TO GOOD BOOKS.

IT'S CRAZY TO THINK HOW MUCH ENERGY IS GOING INTO THIS SITUATION AND WHAT THIS PARTICULAR LIBRARIAN CHOSE TO WEAR.

>> THE MOTHER, I FELT LIKE I WAS WATCHING PERFORMANCE ART.

SHE WAS DRESSED IN THE SAME WAY >> SHE WENT TO A LIBRARY BOARD MEETING.

I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT THIS LIBRARIAN WAS WEARING.

SHE WAS WEARING A CORSET OVER A STRIPED T-SHIRT.

IT WAS BIZARRE.

>> IT WAS REALLY BIZARRE.

IT TURNED HER INTO A PERFORMANCE ARTIST.

>> IT'S HER 15 MINUTES OF FAME.

>> THE LESSON IS, IF YOU FEEL THAT STRONGLY ABOUT DRESS CODES, HAVE A DRESS CODE.

>> THAT'S THE THING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE ST. CHARLES LIBRARY BOARD COULD OUTLAW THIS.

THERE'S A SUPREME COURT FROM 2019 THAT SAID YOU CAN'T DISCRIMINATE AGAINST SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT STEREOTYPICAL AGAINST THEIR GENDER.

A LIBRARY BOARD CANNOT MAKE A POLICY SAYING, MEN, YOU GOT TO DRESS MANLY, WOMEN YOU CAN'T WEAR PANTS.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

>> I HAVE A UNIQUE POSITION ON.

I DON'T CARE.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> I WOULD NOT FIT IN ST. CHARLES.

>> I DON'T FIT IN LOT OF PLACES.

I WANT TO GO TO MY LIBRARY.

I WANT TO GET MY BOOKS.

IF SOMEBODY THERE WHO I THINK IS DRESSED UP, I DON'T CARE.

GO IN, GET YOUR BOOKS, GO HOME.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT FOR MY LIBRARY.

YOU WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT WITH YOUR WARDROBE, STATE IT AWAY.

YOU WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT WHATEVER, STATE AWAY.

LET ME GET MY BOOKS AND LET ME GO HOME.

LOT OF THIS CULTURE WAR STUFF, NOT IN THIS CASE, IT SEEM LIKE ONE SIDE TRYING TO PROVOKE THE OTHER WHATEVER SIDE YOU WANT TO START WITH TO SEE IF SOMEONE WILL BITE.

WE DO SOME HOT TAKES ON TWITTER AND EVERYBODY GETS ALL EXCITED.

48 HOURS LATER, WE FIND ANOTHER THING TO GET RILED UP.

>> JOE, THE MISSOURI SUPREME COURT SAID OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS GUILTY OF STUPIDDISM.

[ LAUGHTER ] OKAY, HE WAS STANDING IN THE WAY OF THE INITIATIVE DRIVE THAT COULD LEAD TO US VOTING ON ABORTION RIGHTS.

SUPREME COURT SAID, WHAT ARE YOU DOING GUYS.

ISN'T THAT GOOD FOR HIS CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN?

>> HE'S RUNNING FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL AGAIN.

I ALWAYS USED TO THINK LOSING LAWSUITS WAS BAD.

ERIC SCHMIDT PROVEN THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ATTORNEY GENERALS WHO DON'T SEEM TO GET THE LAW RIGHT.

WHATEVER SIDE IT'S ON.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE JUDGES.

ESPECIALLY THIS LAST ONE JUST LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU NUTS?

IT WAS KIND OF THEIR RULING, STUPIDDISM.

IT WASN'T LIKE A FINE JUDICIAL LINE HERE.

IT WAS LIKE, NO, YOU CAN'T DO WHAT.

NEXT CASE.

I WOULD THINK IT WOULD HURT HIM.

AS PEOPLE POINTED OUT, ERIC SCHMIDT LOST LAWSUITS AND WON.

I DON'T KNOW.

>> IT'S VERY HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO HURT HIM WITH THE VOTERS.

I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY TAKE A BOLD STAND TO STOP BOOKS AND WHETHER OR NOT -- STOP ABOR TION.

>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE ALREADY WITH YOU.

>> FIRST OF ALL, YOU GOT TO KEEP THIS IN A POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE.

THAT IS, ANDREW BAILEY HAS A SERIOUS CHALLENGER.

HIS CALCULATION ISN'T THE REST OF US.

IT'S THE REPUBLICANS FIGHTING FOR THE MAGA BASE.

HE'S GOT TO BE LOOKING AT THAT.

THAT'S HIS CALCULATION.

THE REPUBLICANS CALCULATION IS THEY ARE VERY WORRIED ABOUT ABORTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF PARSON CAN DECIDE IF IT'S ON THE AUGUST BALLOT OR NOVEMBER.

IF THE PRO CHOICE SIDE GETS AN ORTION MEASURE ON THE BALLOT, THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE REPUBLICANS.

THEY ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT.

TURNOUT A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ON THEIR SIDE TO THE BALLOT BOX.

IT'S KIND OF -- I'M NOT DISAGREEING, IT'S A LOT MORE NUANCE POLITICALLY.

IT'S AN INTERESTING THING TO FOLLOW.

>> IT WAS AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, THEY DECIDED TO PUT ON THE BALLOT IN KANSAS IN AUGUST FOR THAT VERY THOUGHT BECAUSE THE GENERAL WAS COMING UP, MIDTERM.

IT STILL PASSED.

>> IT'S THE SAME ISSUE.

>> IT'S THE SAME ISSUE.

I CAN SEE WHERE THOSE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WANT IT ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE OF THOSE REASONS.

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