Donnybrook
Donnybrook: June 29, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 46 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Alvin Reid debates with Jason Rosenbaum, Wendy Wiese, Joe Holleman, and Ray Hartmann.
Alvin Reid debates with Jason Rosenbaum, Wendy Wiese, Joe Holleman, and Ray Hartmann.
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Donnybrook
Donnybrook: June 29, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 46 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Alvin Reid debates with Jason Rosenbaum, Wendy Wiese, Joe Holleman, and Ray Hartmann.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NIN >> CANADIAN SMOKE, ST. LOUIS HEAT.
I HOPE EVERYBODY DOING OKAY OUT THERE, PLEASE.
BE CAREFUL ALVIN REID SITTI CHARLIE BRENNAN AND WELCOME TO DONNYBROOK.
JOE HOLLEMAN OF THE POST DISPATCH.
FROM SUBSTACK AND ALL AROUND ST. LOUIS.
JASON ROSE TRYING TO GET IT PERFECTLY.
FROM ST. LOUIS PUBLIC RADIO.
HOW YOU BEEN?
>> I'M GOOD.
MY DAUGHTER'S NAME WAS MISTAKENLY BOSSENBAUM ON BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
BY THE FANS AND FORMER CARDI TO THE ST. LOUIS CARDINALS HALL OF FAME.
JUST FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.
HE DOESN'T FEEL UP TO IT.
WENDY, DO YOU FEEL LIKE GOOD DECISION BAD DECISION?
>> THIS IS A TESTAMENT TO YOUR POWERS OF PERSUASION.
FOR THE LAST HOWEV I THOUGHT GOOD FOR HIM.
I THOUGHT, IN A WORLD THAT'S FULL OF ME, ME AND I, I THOUGHT THAT THIS IS NICE.
HE DOESN'T T PLAYING CARDINAL CALIBER BASEBALL FOR PERSONAL REASONS.
PROBABLY SOME PE IN ALL OF THAT.
LISTENING TO YOU AND YOUR ARGUMENT ABOUT HOW THIS IS A MATTER OF THE TEAM T YOU BELONG THERE AND THE FANS THINKING YOU BELONG THERE.
I HAVE COLLAPSED LIKE A HOUSE OF CARDS.
HOW DARE HE TURN DOWN THE CARDINALS FOR THIS HONOR?
>> I DIDN'T SAY DURING THE CEREMONY THAT HE S DOWN AND WEEP AND EXERCISE ALL HIS DEMONS.
SAY IT HERE.
>> RIGHT, HE'S A GREAT GUY.
GREAT PLAYER.
ABOUT THIS.
>> I DISAGREE.
I ACT OF PRINCIPLE.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THE 12 PROGRAM.
ALCOHOL.
THAT.
CERTAINLY, IN TERMS OF ON THE FIELD, ABSOLUTELY DESERVES TO BE IN THE CARDINAL HALL OF FAME.
IT'S NOT EVEN CL THIS ISN'T COOPERS HE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE.
WHAT HE DID JUST ALONE, 2011, REMEMBER, HE WAS ON THE TEAM AND GOT TO THE WORLD SERIES COUPLE OF YEA HE WAS A TERRIFIC PLAYER AND GREAT ST. LOUIS STORY.
I THINK HE SHOULD BE GIVEN LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE FACT THAT HE IS MAKING A STATEMENT THAT HE FEELS HE NEEDS TO MAKE.
>> I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH RAY.
I THINK IT WAS WHAT HE FELT HE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH AND WHAT HE WANTED TO DO AND HE TALKED ABOUT I WASN'T THE PERSON I WANTED TO BE.
OR HAS WORKED OUT, I'M A IT.
THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT KETTLE OF FISH.
THAT'S LIKE A VERY BIG DEA THIS IS A NICE HONOR THAT LO CLUBS HAVE OF ALL KINDS OF VARIETY TO BE A MEMBER, I GUESS.
IF YOU ASK ANY CARDINAL FAN OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS, WHAT'S THE MOMENT YOU MOST REMEMBER?
IT FREESE'S HOME RUN IN GAME SIX.
I DON'T THINK THAT MAK IN THE HALL OF FAME DOES ANYTHING TO THAT OTHER.
WAS MOST COMFORTABLE WITH.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S IN THE CARDINALS HALL OF FAME I ASSUME OZZIE SMITH AND OTHER PLAYERS.
NOBODY SHOULD BE L JOIN SOME CELEBRATORY THING AGAI IF THEY' DOING IT.
CARDINALS HALL OF FAME, WHITE SOX HALL OF FAME OR BREWERS HALL OF FAME.
DAVID FREESE'S CHOICE.
THAT'S HIS DECISION.
>> MAY BE ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW WHEN WE ARE TALK HEALTH AND WELLNESS IN A WAY AND IN AREAS AND ARENAS THAT WE HAVE NEVER TALKED ABOUT THEM BEFORE.
>> WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT.
IN THE TIME HE WAS HAVING DIFFICULTIES.
THREE-YEAR HAD FOUR SERIOUS SCANDALS.
ONE OF THEM WAS HIS ARREST IN 2009 AT .23 IN 2009.
IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER JO RELATED DRIVING ACCIDENT.
THEN, TONY LARUSSA HAD HIS IN THAT SAME YEAR.
THE CARDINALS HAD LIKE FOUR IN FOUR YEARS.
I'M JUST SUBJECT OF FREESE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LITTLE M THAN WE WERE THEN.
>> NOT THAT I'M SAYING I WISH BILL WERE HERE T JOE, BILL W A COLUMN IN REGARDS TO AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED ON THANKSGIVING.
FOR ALL WHO DIDN'T BELIEVE IN ME, I'M NOT MAD AT YOU.
>> THIS IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
IN THE HALL OF FAME, HE WAS SO UPSET THAT HE WAS PASSED O SEVERAL TIMES THAT HIS ALMA MATER AT TENNESSEE.
PERHAPS, DAVID FREESE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING SIMIL LIKE WENT SOMEWHERE AND SA I'M NOT ACCEPTING THIS REASONS, XYZ AND GIVE THE MONEY TO ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS OR THINGS FOR MENTAL HEAL I STAND BY WHAT I SAID.
I'M JUST POINTING, THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES.
>> JOSE OQUENDO AND WILL BE GOING TO THE HALL OF FAME.
AMERICA'S BIGGEST BIRTHDAY PARTY.
PEOPLE CAME FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD TO BE HERE ON TH OF JULY.
OPRAH WINFREY, ARETHA FRANKLIN.
WELL, FAIR ST. LOUIS IS NOW DOWN TO ONE DAY AND IT'S DAY/NIGHT DOUBLEHEADER.
PARADE AT NIGHT.
IS THIS DEATH NAIL FOR FAIR ST LOUIS?
>> NO.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING IT BACK.
IT'S S BECAUSE 40 YEARS AGO, ONE OF THE FIRST ISSUE "RIVERFRONT TIMES" FOUGHT AGAINST WAS PUBLIC FUNDIN WE HAD SOMETHING TO DO ALONG WITH THE TIME WITH THAT GRAVY TRAIN $650,000 BEING CUT OFF.
IT WAS A TERRIFIC EVENT FOR A LONG TIME.
IT WAS ALWAYS -- I DON WHY, I THINK IT WAS A SIGN OF OUR CIVIC INSECURITY.
WE HAD TO TRY TO MAKE IT MORE THAN IT WAS.
WH IT WAS A GOOD EVENT, GOOD SOLID EVENT FOR MANY YEARS.
IF WENT FROM BEING KIND OF OVE PLAYED TO NOW -- I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE FACTORS THAT HAVE CAUSED ITS DEMISE.
I ALWAYS LIKED IT BETTER WHEN IT WAS CALLED FAIR ST. LOUIS THAN THE VP FAIR.
>> DITTO.
>> HAVING SAID THAT, IT WILL COME BACK.
IT'S BASICALLY NOW J FIREWORKS SHOW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE RENOVATION OF THE ARCH GROUNDS WERE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT ST. LOUIS EVENT.
JUST BEING WHAT IT IS.
BE NICE IF IT CAME BACK.
IT'S IRONIC FOR ME TO BE SAYING THAT.
THE PEOPLE WHO ORGANIZED THE FAIR OVERSELLING IT.
NOBODY BILLS THEIR THIRD BIGGEST PARTY.
IT'S SPACERLY ATTENDED BUT IT'S A BLAST.
TH REPORTED IT AS SUCH, INCLUDING US AT THE TIME, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
PEOPLE STILL WEREN'T SURE WHAT TO DO.
'22, THERE WAS SOME STUFF NOW.
NOW WE GOT THIS ABBREVIATED VERSION.
BIGGER AND BETTER RETURN IN 2024.
IS SOMETHING THAT ST. LOUISANS ACTUALLY WANT OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT FADES THINGS DO OVER TIME.
WE'LL KNOW NEXT YEAR.
WELL IT'S THE CRIME OR IT COULD BE THIS.
WE CAN'T JUDGE UNTIL 2024.
THE ORGANIZERS SAYING WE'RE COMING BACK WORK A BIGGER ONE.
>> THE ARCH GROUNDS WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE'RE NOT THE FORTUNE 500 COMPANY TOWN THAT WE USED TO BE.
CIVIC PROGRESS DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.
[ LAUGHTER ] IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT CITY.
I DO THINK IT WILL COME BA >> FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS SMALL WE GOT TO ASK OURSELVES IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO SPEND A DAY OFF DOING?
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT OUR KIDS WOULD LIKE?
VARIOUS REASONS THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO.
UNSAID REASONING, LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE MOVED AWAY ST. LOUIS AND GO TO FOURTH OF JULY CELEBRATIONS IN CENTRAL WEST COUNTY OR ST. CHARLES OR JEFFCO.
THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO ST. LOUIS NOT FOR CRIME REASONS BUT FOR LOGISTICAL REASONS.
I KNOW LAS PLAYED.
THOUGH I LOVED THIRD EYE BLIND, IS ENOUGH TO DRAW PEOPLE TO THAT.
RIGHT?
>> AGAIN, I SAY IRONIC FOR ME TO BE SAYING IT.
I THINK THE ID FESTIVAL, EVEN A SMALL ONE, FRAMED BY THE ARCH, WHICH UNIQUE, AND THE FIREWORKS, I THINK WE SHOULD WANT T COME BACK.
I REITERATE WHAT I WAS THERE IN THE '80s AND '90s, PEOPLE WERE WORRIED ABOUT DOWNTOWN CRIME IN A LEVEL THAT WAS DISPROPORTIONATE.
MY POINT IS, ONE OF THE POINTS WE MADE WAS, THE VP FAIR, WHICH HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE NOT WITH THE NEWSPAPER, 4.6 BILLION, IT NEVER WAS THAT BIG.
THE POINT IS, IT WAS THAT WHEN THERE ARE LOT OF PEOPLE DOWNTOWN, YOU CAN COME DOWNTOWN AND >> THE '80s AND '90s THAT WAS WHEN ATTENDANCE WAS HIGHEST.
>> I'M SAYING THAT THE AMOUNT -- >> I'M TALKING TO HIM.
[ LAUGHTER ] >> IT WAS HIGHEST.
PEOPLE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR SAFETY.
BECAUSE BEING A NEW REPORTER IN THE '80s AND '90s, GOT ASSIGNED TO COVER THE VP FAIR.
ESTIMATE.
2.3 THEY ARE SAYING ABOUT 2.3 MILLION.
>> WE WERE THE ONES WHO WERE SCREAMING ABOUT IT.
>> THEY HAD VILLAGE.
EVENT.
>> WHAT KID DOESN'T LIKE THE FAIR SHOW?
>> I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR DOWNTOWN AND IT WOULD SHOW PEOPLE YOU CAN CO DOWNTOWN AND BE SAFE.
>> I HOPE IT COMES BACK.
>> I DO TOO.
WE'LL FIND OF THESE REASONS THAT SEEMS TO BE DYING OR TRUE.
OR IF THIS IS A HIATUS.
>> DONNYBROOK, FIRST WEEK OF JULY NEXT YEAR ALL RIGHT.
I DIDN'T HAVE A PROB BOARD OF ALDERMAN VOTED THEMSELVES RAISES.
THEY WENT FROM 2 28 TO 14.
COUNTY COUNCIL VOTED THEMSELVES A BIG RAISE.
JASON YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?
PROBLEM OF IT IS TREATED IT LIKE A TREND LIKE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN ST. LOUIS LIKE A VOLUNTEER CHARITY BOARD.
BOTH OF THOSE THINGS WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH TO HAVE ME BE SCREAMED AT BY PEOPLE WHO THINK GOING TO TOWER T50 WEEKS YEAR.
COMBINED WITH MULTIPLE THINGS.
MY POINT IS, ST. LOUIS COUNTY COUNCIL PEOPLE WERE PAID SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN OTHER COUNTIES.
LIKE BOONE COUNTY WHERE THEY PAIR THAN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS LIKE $100,000 A YEAR.
I HEARD ALL OF THE ALL THE DISTRICTS ARE MAINLY INCORPORATED EXCEPT THE 4th AND 6th.
WORK.
MUCH?
OWN DRAMA.
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, YOU WENT TO A COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING, IT WAS 15 MINUTES AND THE RETIREMENT AWARDS AND EVERYBODY WENT HOME.
>> PUT DOWN REALLY RESTRICTIONS.
THAT SHOWCASED HOW COUNTY GOVERNMENT CAN BE ON INDIVIDUAL LIVE.
THOSE THINGS SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
PEOPLE WHO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS $20,000 A YEAR, AT LEAST NEEDED TO BE REVISITED.
>> OF COURSE.
IF ANYTHING, $ INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT COMPARES TO COMPARABLE COUNTIES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
NOT EVERY LITTLE COUNTY IN AREA.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE A COUNTY OF A MILLION PEOPLE IN OTHER MARKETS WHAT THEY MAKE AS COUNCIL PEOPLE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE.
WITH THE ALDERMAN, IT'S ALL ABOUT OPTICS.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE -- IT'S HARD TO OVERSTATE HOW SMALL A PART OF WHAT THEY SPEND IS AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE SPENDING MORE TIME WORRIED ABOU THINK, THAN THE SYMBOLIC PART.
>> THE DISFUNCTION WAS REALLY HEADLINE MAK TIME.
PEOPLE WERE SCREAMING FOR THE HEAD OF SAM PAGE WHO DEFEATED HIS OPPONENT FOR COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
THAT WE HAVE ATTENTION SPANS LIKE HUMMING BIRDS.
THEY ARE LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN DRAMA.
>> I THINK ANY TIME ANYBODY VOTES FOR A RAISE IN A POSITION THAT THEY HOLD, YOU'RE GOING TO BE CRITICIZED.
IT'S THE OPTICS.
IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.
TO CLARIFY, YOU DON' RAISE UNTIL YOU'RE REELECTED.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU.
I WAS GOING T TO SAY THAT.
>> YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, DON'T VOTE FOR THAT PERSON.
>> VOTE THEM OUT.
>> RUN AGAINST T IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT, RUN FOR COUNTY COUNCIL.
THIS SEAT.
YOU JUST G SEGWAY.
CIRCUIT ATTORNEY OFFICE HEAD JOB.
APPARENTLY ON THE WAY TO HIS LAST HEARING.
HE WILL BE OUT OF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM.
DAVID MUELLER MADE STATEMENTS ABOUT -- I DON'T WANT A MAKE HIM SOUND LIKE HE WAS BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL.
WOULD HEAR FROM A HOME SHARP-EDGED PROSECUTOR THESE DAYS.
NOW YOU GOT NO CHANCE GETTING ELECTED?
AFTER CONSIDERING KIM GARDNER GOT REMOVED RESIGNED, WHATEVER, YOU HAVE GABE GORE IN THERE.
WILL GABE GORE RUN AGAIN?
THERE' DAVID MUELLER SAID HE WANTS TO BE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY.
I DON'T THINK THIS HURT HIM.
IT'S TRAGIC WHAT HAPPENED TO THE YOUNG MAN.
REALLY ONE THAT WAS ADDRESSED HOW THE OFFICE WAS GARDNER.
I THINK LOT OF WHAT CHANCE DAVID MUELLER HAS IS SOLELY DEPENDENT ON WHAT GABE GORE DECIDES TO DO.
HE MIGHT WANT TO RUN FOR ELECTION OR BEING APPOINTED PERSON.
I'M CERTAIN WILL BE AN EASY TASK TO SHOW AN IMPROVEMENT, HE WILL BECOME THE FAVORITE TO WIN THAT OFFICE AGAIN.
NO.
NOT REALLY.
> IT DEPEND ON WHETHER GABE GORE RUNS FOR A FULL TERM.
I EXPECT THERE TO BE JUST MORE THAN DAVID MUELLER RUNNING F IT.
GARDNER SAGA, THIS OFFICE IS NOT ONLY LIKE A POLITICAL OFFICE THAT PEOPLE LIKE, YOU NEED SOMEBODY IN THERE THAT KNOWS WHAT TH AND IS NOT GOING TO BE SUCH A BAD MANAGER THAT PEOPLE QUIT ON YOU AND DEFENDANTS ARE NOT GETTING THEIR FAIR TRIALS.
I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY LOT OF PEO UP THAT ROLE, WHETHER THAT'S GABE GORE OR DAVID MUELLER.
IT WILL DEPEND ON FACTORS.
HE'S NOT REALLY NEARLY AS CONTROVERSIAL AS GARDNER, I THINK THE CASE AGAINST GETTING A FULL TERM BECOMES LOT HARDER.
TO BE NUANCE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM MUELLER.
KIM GARDNER TO HANG HIM HIGH MUELLER.
CITY.
THE DEGREES OF EMPATHY THAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE.
>> 17 MONTHS IS AN ETERNITY.
KEEP IN MIND, WE HAVE TO SEE.
TO YOUR POINT, THAT ELECTION IS NOT GOING TO BE DECIDED IN NOVEMBER '24 BASE ON WHETHER IT'S AN IMPROVEM GARDNER.
CANDIDATES ARE I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THERE'S MORE THAN TWO.
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.
HE HASN'T DONE -- WHO KNOWS WHO CONTROVERSIES WILL BE THERE BETWEEN NO WE GOT TO WAIT AND SEE.
HE SEEMS ON THE FACE OF IT TO BE QUALIFIED AND PASSIONATE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIM, WHICH I'M SURE THAT'S GOOD.
>> I THINK GABE GORE IS IN A HONEYMOON PERIOD NOW WHEN HE'S HAS TO START MAKING A LO DIFFICULT DECISIONS INCLUDING DROPPING CASES THAT MAY HA LINGERED ON TOO LONG.
WE'LL HA >> ALL RIGHT, WELL, STARBUCK WORKERS HEAR IN ST. LOUIS HAVE JOINED OTHERS NATIONALLY IN HAVING A PROTEST IN REGARD TO -- THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE PRIDE DAY POSTERS, WEAR PRIDE DAY PARAPHERNALIA AT WORK WITHIN THEIR FACI AT THE SAME TIME, NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE RULED THAT TEAMS INCLUDING THE ST. LOUIS BL CAN LONGER WEAR PRIDE JERSEYS OR BLACK LIVES MATTER OR ANY OTHER KIND OF CAUSE DURI SKATING WARM-UPS.
RAY, THEY ARE GOING TOO FAR?
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS?
>> I HAVE GROWN WORRIED OF ALL THESE SOCIAL CULTURE WARS ABOUT SYMBOLS AND NOT SUBSTANCE AND SO FORTH.
STARBUCKS WORKERS ARE THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY.
DOING THE WALKOUT.
THEY HAVE A UNION.
THEY MADE TH I HAVE TO OTHERS MIGHT NOT.
STARBUCKS ITSELF, ALL THESE COMPANIES TODAY, WHETHER YOU'RE ANHEUSER-BUSCH OR HAVE TO NEIGHBOR DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR CLIENTELE AND THEIR IMAGE.
I THINK STARBU POOR CHOICE GIVEN ITS GENERAL PERCEPTION IS BEING LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE COMPANY.
THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE IT NOW.
THAT'S THEIR DECISION TO MAKE.
AS FAR AS THE HOCKEY, LIKE SEEING PLAYERS TOLD THEY HAVE TO WEAR A UNIFORM OR A SWEATSHIRT AND WARMING UP AT ALL.
THEY SHOULD BE TOLD THEY CAN'T.
SOMEWHERE IN THE MILL ON THAT.
I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT CRITERIA I HAVE FOR PRIDE CELEBRATIONS AND O SINCERE.
GIMMICKS.
CELEBRATION, IT SHOULD.
IF IT DO IT SHOULD LIVE WITH PEOPLE'S REACTION TO IT.
>> I THINK AFTER THE BUD LIGHT AND THE FACT THAT THE MARKETING PRINCIPLES WERE BLOWN OUT JUST WENT QUIETLY WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE O I THINK BUD THAT WILL BE TAUGHT IN MARKETI COLLEGE COURSES FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE STEPPING BACK THINKING, WE GOT TO G BEARINGS.
POLITICAL AN ORGANIZATION DO WE WANT TO BE.
ITS GOLDEN MIDDLE.
I THINK NOW RETREAT.
AR E SINCERE IN THAT ANHEUSER-BUSCH WAS SINCERELY INTERESTED IN SELLING MORE BEER.
THE NHL IS SINCERELY INTERESTED SELLING MORE TICKETS.
THEY SINCERELY WANT TO PUT -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SI ABOUT IT, THAT'S WHAT THEY TALKING ABOU >> I THINK IT'S CLEAR TH BACKLASH OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE SYMBOLS ABOUT LGBTQ RIGHTS.
I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING LOT OF PUSHBACK.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
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