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>> THIS WEEK, THERE IS A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT IN A MOMENT.

FIRST, LET MEET PANELISTS.

WENDY WIESE.

BILL McCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

RAY HARTMANN, THE PODCASTER AND ALSO THE GUY WHO WRITES, CALLED RAY HARTMANN'S INSIDE ST. LOUIS.

AND ALVIN REED FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.

WELL, WE LOST A GREAT MEMBER OF THE ST. LOUIS COMMUNITY THIS WEEK.

WHEN FORMER ST. LOUIS CARDINAL AND 50-YEAR BROADCASTER AND "DONNYBROOK" VIEWER AND ONE-TIME "DONNYBROOK" GUEST, MIKE SHANNON PASSED AWAY AT THE AND OF 83.

>> HOW BAD WERE THE CUBS?

>> THAT'S A FUNNY THING.

I CAN REMEMBER GOING IN THERE IN THE '60s, THERE WILL BE ONLY 5000 OR 6000 PEOPLE THERE.

TWO FUNNY STORIES ABOUT WRIGLEY FIELD.

BEST ONE IS MUSIAL'S LAST TRIP AROUND.

I KNEW STAN.

HE WAS ONE OF MY TEAMMATE'S FATHER.

I GO AND PLAY.

HE'S MAKING HIS LAST ROUND.

THEY MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT.

JOHNNY THE MANAGER SAID, STAN NOT FEELING GOOD.

HE'S NOT GOING TO PLAY TODAY.

I GO OUT TO LEFT FIELD, THERE'S A GUY IN THE BLEACHERS.

HE SAID, HEY SHANNON, WHERE'S MUSIAL, HE SAID HE'S NOT PLAYING TODAY.

THE POOR GUY HAD HIS 10-YEAR-OLD SON WITH HIM.

HE'S TELLING THAT KID, FOR 790 MILES HE'S BOMBARDING HIM WITH MUSIAL STORY.

IT WAS HILARIOUS.

I REALLY FELT SORRY FOR THE GUY, HE DROVE 790 MILES TO WATCH HIS PLAY HIS LAST GAME.

HE HAD TO WATCH ME PLAY.

ABOUT THE THIRD INNING, I WENT UP STAN WAS TAKING A REST.

I TOLD HIM A STORY.

HE SIGNED THE BALL FOR ME.

I THREW THE BALL TO THE GUY.

ALL RIGHT, COME ON SHANNON, LET'S GO.

>> RAY HARTMANN ALL-TIME GREAT.

LET'S GO AROUND THE HORN AND FEW THOUGHTS ABOUT MIKE.

>> PEOPLE FORGET.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS, HE WAS THE MISSOURI FOOTBALL AND THE MISSOURI BASKETBALL PLAYER OF THE YEAR.

HE WAS A GREAT -- IF HE NEVER BEEN A BROADCASTER, JUST A GREAT GUY.

WE WERE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM AS A VIEWER.

WE WERE ALL LUCKY TO HAVE HIM AS A CITIZEN.

>> IT WAS A MONDAY.

I WAS AT SIMULCAST AT FAIRMONT PARK.

I TURN AROUND IT'S MIKE SHANNON.

I'M LIKE, MR. SHANNON.

HE SAID WE'RE IN THE BACK HERE.

THERE WAS JAY RANDOLPH AND THE CREW.

I'M LIKE, OH, I'M GOOD.

REALIZED, EVERYBODY LOOKING AT ME.

LIKE, WHO'S THAT.

HE WAS TALKING TO MIKE SHANNON.

I WAS LIKE, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT JUST HAPPEN.

HE WAS A WONDERFUL MAN.

HE TRULY DID WATCH THE SHOW.

THAT SHOW THAT WE DID IN JULY OF 2020, THAT WAS ONE OF MY ALL-TIME FAVORITES.

IT WAS REALLY A FUN SHOW.

IT WAS A TOUGH SUMMER FOR EVERYBODY.

I THINK WE PUT SOME SMILES ON PEOPLE FACES.

THAT WAS MIKE SHANNON.

>> I THOUGHT THAT FREDERICK SAID AT THE POST DISPATCH, HAD TOUCHING COLUMNS ABOUT SHANNON.

BEN FREDERICK WROTE ABOUT DURING SPRING TRAINING HOW HE WENT OUT THERE DURING PATTIN PAT -- BATTING PRACTICE.

HE WAS THERE IN HIS BLUE JACKET.

HE SAID HE WAS STROLLING WITH THE PACE OF THE GUY OUT OF SUNSET STROLLING ON THE BEACH.

HE WAS SOMETHING ELSE.

>> HE WAS.

THIS HAS BEEN HARD, I THINK, FOR NOT JUST FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO KNOW HIM, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO WHETHER THEY MET HIM OR NOT, THEY KNEW HIM.

HE WAS ST. LOUIS.

HE WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE.

HE WAS SO PROUD AND THERE WAS THIS GREAT LITTLE BIT OF TAPE WHEN HE WAS INDUCTED INTO THE CARDINAL HALL OF FAME.

WHEN HE SAID, THIS IS MY TEAM.

HE SAID THIS IS MY TOWN.

HE WAS SO PROUD NO MATTER WHAT WAS GOING ON.

HE WAS SO PROUD OF THIS TOWN.

HE WAS SO PROUD TO BE LOVED.

HE WAS SO PROUD OF HIS FAMILY.

WE'RE ALL SO PROUD TO HAVE KNOWN HIM.

>> HOW ABOUT A HOMETOWN KID WHO HITS A HOME RUN AGAINST '94 WORLD SERIES.

YOUNG KID.

>> THE THING IS, I THOUGHT HIS VOICE WAS SYNONYMOUS FOR ST. LOUIS.

I SAW SOMETHING THAT ALMOST NOBODY ELSE DO ID.

IT HAS A DONNYBROOK CONNECTION.

WE ALL WENT TO THE STADIUM, TOOK THE LITTLE BOY, 10 OR 12 AT THE TIME UP TO THE BROADCAST BOOTH.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE, IF MIKE SAID HOW YOU DOING?

HE SPENT 20 OR 30 MINUTES TALKING TO THIS YOUNG BOY, JUST THE TWO OF THEM.

THE BOY WASN'T GIVING HIM MUCH.

MIKE HAD TO WORK IT.

HE WAS TALKING AND JOKING AND POINTING THE THINGS IN THE BALLPARK.

I THOUGHT, WOW, THAT'S SOMETHING NO ONE EVER GOING TO SEE.

>> WHEN MIKE SHANNON WAS ON THE CARDINALS, BASEBALL AND THE COUNTRY WAS GOING THROUGH SOME CHANGES.

YOU WERE EITHER ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY AT THAT TIME OR OR WRONG SIDE.

HE WAS ON RIGHT SIDE.

CARDINALS HAD A TEAM THAT HAD MORE BLACK PLAYERS THAN ANY OTHER TEAM IN BASEBALL, HE STOOD WITH THEM.

HE WAS FRIENDS WITH THEM.

BECAUSE THEY WERE GOOD MEN.

THAT'S WHAT MIKE SHANNON WAS ABOUT.

>> WELL PUT.

LET'S MOVE ON TO SOME OF THE TOPICS OF THE WEEK STARTING WITH A MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT.

ALVIN REED THAT THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY, KIM GARDNER, HAS RESIGNED AFTER CRAZY WEEK.

IT WAS REPORTED BY THE "RIVERFRONT TIMES," SHE WAS ATTENDING NURSING SCHOOL AT ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY.

THREE OF HER TOP ATTORNEYS QUIT.

ONE JUDGE SAID IT WAS OKAY FOR THE QUO WARRANTO TO PROCEED.

SPECIAL PROSECUTOR WAS NAMED.

WAS IT REALLY ONE THING OR ANOTHER THAT LED TO HER STEPPING DOWN?

>> IT STARTED A WEEK AGO TODAY WHEN THE FEDERAL JUDGE JUST BASICALLY READ A SERIES ACT, DEMANDED THAT SHE AND HER SECOND COMMAND EITHER SHOW UP FOR THIS CONTEMPT HEARING OR POSSIBLY BE JAILED.

WHICH IS SAD.

I THOUGHT HER LAST HOPE -- I SAID THIS ON THE SHOW, THE JUDGE MIGHT SAY, INCOMPETENCY IS NOT ENOUGH TO THROW HER OUT OF THE OFFICE.

WHEN THAT WAS IT DECIDED, THAT TRIAL WOULD GO ON.

I THINK THAT WAS REALLY -- I THINK SHE PROBABLY AT THAT TIME DECIDED THAT IT'S OVER.

THEN THE WHOLE I'M TAKING ONLINE COURSE.

THAT'S WHEN THE TOWN IS BURNING DOWN.

I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE LAST STRAW.

>> I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT THING FOR HER TO DO.

ONE OF THOSE -- SEEING THIS WITH LOT OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

BECOMING EMBATTLED FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT PLACES.

IT'S THE DRIP, DRIP, DRIP OF THIS ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS ONE THING IN PARTICULAR.

CERTAINLY THE LEGAL STUFF WAS A SIGNIFICANT PART.

IT WAS TIME FOR HER TO DO IT.

SHE DID IT.

I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED TO FOCUS ON WHAT'S NEXT FOR ST. LOUIS.

>> ME TOO.

THERE WILL BE A NEW CIRCUIT ATTORNEY.

MORE THAN LIKELY, IT WILL BE GOVERNOR PARSON.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST WEEK.

THERE'S PRECEDENT FOR THE MAYOR TO DO IT.

THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE IN PLAY HERE.

WHEN GEORGE PEACH RESIGNED, THAT WAS GOVERNOR ASHCROFT WHO APPOINTED -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHO GOVERNOR PARSONS SELECT.

IF I HAD TO GUESS.

MAY BE JIMMY EDWARD.

JIMMY EDWARDS HAS NOT BEEN A REALLY HARD CORE PARTISAN DEMOCRAT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A MISSION IMPOSSIBLE THAT SOMEBODY PARACHUTE INTO THIS CIRCUIT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IT'S NOT A TURNKEY OPERATION.

THE OFFICE HAS BEEN DEVASTATED.

IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE APPOINTMENT.

>> THE THING IS, JUDGE EDWARDS, HE WAS A JUDGE AS A JUVENILE JUDGE, HE GOT A LOT OF ATTENTION, NATIONWIDE.

PROFILED IN "PEOPLE MAGAZINE."

HE BECAME A PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR.

THAT WAS PRETTY TOUGH SLEDDING.

WHEN HE WENT TO PRIVATE PRACTICE, HE WAS READY TO GET OUT AND MAKE A COUPLE OF BUCKS.

>> I THINK THAT THE JUDGE NOBLE, CHAOS.

THAT WAS SUCH A PROFOUND MOMENT FOR EVERYBODY WATCHING THIS.

IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, COME ON.

WHETHER IT IS IN A PROFESSIONAL SETTING, WHETHER IT IS IN A FAMILY SETTING, WHEN YOU HAVE ONE PERSON WHO IS LITERALLY SUCKING THE AIR AND THE MOVEMENT OUT OF A FAMILY -- THIS REGION HAS BEEN PARALYZED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WHEN SHE SAW THE POST DISPATCH EDITORIAL PAGE, LIGHTING A FIRE UNDER MAYOR JONES TO COME OUT WITH NOT A SUGGESTION TO LEAVE BUT A DEMAND TO LEAVE, MAY BE THAT WAS IT.

>> MAY BE THAT HAPPENED.

I KNOW THAT -- I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE MAYOR, I'M PRETTY CERTAIN THAT SHE WANTED HER GONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I THINK WHOEVER THE GOVERNOR -- WHOEVER THEY APPOINT, I THINK THAT OFFICE CAN BE BACK FUNCTIONING AGAIN REGULARLY IN SIX MONTHS.

YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO COME IN THERE -- FIRST OF ALL, YOU NEED TO ASK FOR HELP.

SHE REFUSE TO DO THAT.

THIS IS I NEED ASSISTANCE.

I DON'T CARE WHO YOU VOTED FOR AND I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU FROM.

I NEED PEOPLE TO BE HERE ON THE JOB.

>> HOW MANY OF THOSE WHO HAVE FLED WOULD COME BACK?

>> WHAT IF THEY ARE ATTORNEY GENERAL PROSECUTOR?

THERE'S THE MEASURE IN JEFFERSON CITY TO SEND A 12 TO 14 PROSECUTORS TO PROSECUTE VIOLENT CRIMES IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

THEY NEED 60 ATTORNEYS.

THEY ARE DOWN TO 20.

WHERE THEY GOING TO FIND 40 LAWYERS?

>> I THINK YOU CAN FIND THEM.

>> I DON'T THINK WE'RE LIVING IN A SOCIETY THAT SAYS NOW IS A TIME TO COME -- >> PEOPLE FROM THE AG'S OFFICE, THAT'S FINE.

WE NEED SOME EXPERIENCED PROSECUTORS.

>> THIS WAS NOT PERSONAL.

>> SOMEBODY STUCK AROUND LITTLE LONGER, I HAVE TO SAY, NOT AT THIS TABLE, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE EQUATED HER -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] I WILL SAY THIS.

TO BILL'S POINT, IN FEBRUARY THE POST DID A STORY WHICH MIKE PARSON'S PUBLICLY COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH AND GETTING INPUT FROM MAYOR JONES.

I HOPE HE DOES.

LET'S GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO MAKE A GOOD APPOINTMENT.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME POLITICAL VICTORY LAPS TAKEN BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

I DON'T THINK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS -- THERE'S ALSO TALK ABOUT MERGING THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY -- >> THAT WON'T GO AWAY.

>> I DON'T FAVOR THAT UNLESS IT'S PART OF A BROADER -- I THINK THERE'S A CASE TO BE MADE TO HAVING ONE METROPOLITAN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, JAIL, POLICE AND THE PROSECUTOR.

NOT JUST THE PROSECUTOR.

THAT WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE WELL RECEIVED.

>> I COULD SEE AT LEAST ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, WESLEY BELL.

I COULD.

IT'S LIKE HEY, YOU AND YOUR OFFICE -- >> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR PROSECUTORS, INCLUDING THE CHARLES PROSECUTOR.

>> LOOK AT HER OFFICE RECENTLY, LOT OF THESE PROSECUTORS ARE TWO OR THREE YEARS OUT OF WASH-U.

YOU MIGHT GET SOME OF THAT.

YOU WILL NOT GET A GUY WHO'S WORKING FOR THOMPSON COBURN SAY OH.

>> CHARLIE, THEY'RE A HORRIBLE TEAM.

WORST IN THE LEAGUE.

THEY CHANGED THE COACH.

THEY DON'T CHANGE THAT MANY PLAYERS.

THEY HAVE THEM, BUT THEY ALL STUNK.

THIS TEAM IS AWFUL.

YOU CHANGE MANAGEMENT, YOU CHANGE THE PERSON IN CHARGE.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU WILL NOT WIN THE SUPER BOWL.

YOU'RE GOING TO FUNCTION.

>> YOU HAVE 25 PLAYERS ON THAT TEAM ALREADY.

WE'RE DOWN TO HARDLY ANYBODY.

>> I THINK WE'RE GENERALIZING LITTLE BIT HERE.

ON THE BIG CASES, ALL CASES NOT CREATED EQUAL.

ALL DOCKETS -- I THINK THAT ALVIN'S POINT, I THINK THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT IS FOR PROSECUTORS TO GET ASSISTANCE ON THE BIGGER CASES FROM WHETHER IT'S WESLEY BELL'S OFFICE, THE OFFICE IN ST. CHARLES COUNTY AND JEFFERSON COUNTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF PRECEDENT.

>> I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO SEE SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO LEFT WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WILLING TO SAY -- >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

>> FOR WHAT PAY?

>> CHARLIE, EVERY PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE IS NOT LIKE THIS.

YOU STILL GET PAID.

>> THIS WHOLE THING THAT ATTORNEYS DON'T MAKE MONEY AND DOCTORS DON'T MAKE MONEY.

I NEVER BOUGHT INTO THAT.

THERE ARE PLENTY PEOPLE AND THEY MIGHT HAVE POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS AND THEY MIGHT WANT TO HELP.

>> WE USED TO HAVE CAREER PROSECUTORS.

WE STILL DO IN THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

UNTIL MS. GARDNER RAN THEM OFF.

>> EVERY PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE IN MISSOURI HAS PEOPLE WORKING FOR LESS MONEY.

>> I THINK YOU GUYS ARE OVER ESTIMATE THE ALLURE OF WORKING IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

[EVERYONE TALKING AT ONCE] >> I THINK YOU'RE WRONG.

>> IT DEPENDS ON THE LAWYER.

>> GOOD LUCK.

>> I WISH YOU THE BEST.

>> HOW LONG IS LAW AND ORDER BEEN ON TV?

SINCE 1991.

THERE'S A FASCINATION WITH THAT OFFICE.

>> I DO KNOW IT'S FASCINATING ABOUT WORKING THERE IS ANOTHER MATTER.

LET'S MOVE ON TO YOU WENDY.

>> WENDY WEIS, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT, IT'S NOT THE BIGGEST STORY.

WE FIND IT INTERESTING.

THAT IS THAT A REPORTER FOR THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH, HE WAS TRYING TO GET INFORMATION FROM THE AIRPORT COMMISSION.

AIRPORT COMMISSION WANTED TO RAISE THE PARKING RATES.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE HIM THE INFORMATION ABOUT IT EARLY.

WHEN AIRPORT COMMISSION MEETINGS WERE HELD.

WELL, APPARENTLY, A BUSINESS WOMAN, KATHY OSBORN SAID, THEY SHOULD GET THIS INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO RAISE THE PARKING PRICES.

RHONDA HAMM-NIEBRUEGGE SAYS NO.

>> IN THIS PARTICULAR CLIMATE IN THE WORLD TODAY, I DO NOT FAULT MS. HAMM-NIEBRUEGGE.

I DON'T FAULT HER AT ALL FOR WANTING THE COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION TO TAKE A CURSORY GLANCE AT IT BEFORE THE PRESS GETS IT AND STARTS ASKING QUESTIONS.

I THINK THAT A LITTLE -- WAS SHE OVERLY CAUTIOUS, PERHAPS.

>> I DO FAULT HER.

I WILL NOT TRY TO PRONOUNCE HER NAME.

I THINK THAT, THIS INFORMATION OUGHT TO BE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ARGUING THAT PARKING SHOULDN'T GO UP.

OUR RATES ARE PRETTY CHEAP IN ST. LOUIS.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO RAISE IT FROM 7 TO 9 OR 9 TO 12, THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S -- I WOULD WANT THE COMMISSIONERS WHO WILL BE QUESTIONED BY THE PRESS TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION BEFORE HAND.

>> I THINK THE IDEA HAVING THE PUBLIC KNOW THERE'S A DEBATE ABOUT IT IS MORE THAN REASONABLE.

>> I DON'T MIND PRONOUNCING HER NAME.

>> YOU'RE BRAVE.

>> I CAN SEE BOTH SIDES.

RHONDA, I DON'T THINK IT'S WRONG.

>> LET'S CUT TO THE CHASE.

>> PUBLIC INFORMATION.

PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO IT.

THERE'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

>> SHE WANTED TO GIVE THE COMMISSIONERS A LITTLE BIT OF HEADS UP.

>> JUST TO GIVE THEM CURTESY HEADS UP -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ] >> ALL INFORMATION SHOULD BE PUBLIC.

WHETHER IT'S HER TEXT OR E-MAILS.

WE'VE GONE OVER THERE.

WHY DO WE HAVE AN ARGUMENT?

>> HAVE YOU EVER CHANGED YOUR MIND?

I WAS WITH BILL AND CHARLIE.

WENDY, CONVINCED ME, THAT I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND.

YOU TWO ARE WRONG.

WENDY IS RIGHT.

IF I'M A COMMISSIONER, I GET A CALL FROM, SAYING WHAT'S UP WITH THIS DOUBLING THE RATE IN PARKING.

I'M LIKE, HUH.

>> YOU CAN SAY, I HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IT.

>> THEN YOU LOOK LIKE A COMPLETE IDIOT.

>> THEY HAD DECIDED THEY WILL TELL THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS MEETING.

>> THE PRESS ISN'T GETTING IT BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS.

WE'RE GETTING IT AT THE SAME TIME.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I WANT ASK YOU, BILL, ABOUT A STORY IN TODAY'S POST DISPATCH.

THAT IS WHEN PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS PUT ITEMS INTO TRASH, INTO RECYCLING BINS, TWO THIRDS OF IT THAT IT GOES INTO THE TRASH.

TWO THIRDS OF RECYCLING IS NOT ACTUALLY BEING RECYCLED.

WHAT IS GOING ON?

IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO SEPARATE AND TO RECYCLE.

>> YES, IT IS.

I THINK IT'S NOT JUST GOING ON IN THE CITY.

I THINK IT'S GOING ON IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

THIS SORT OF FEEL GOOD MOVEMENT THAT WE'RE RECYCLING AND HALF OF THE STUFF WE'RE PUTTING IN THERE, WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE SHOULD RECYCLE OR NOT.

PEOPLE PUT PIZZA BOXES IN THE RECYCLE.

WE READ, WELL, ACTUALLY, YOU CAN'T PUT PIZZA BOXES BECAUSE IT'S GOT CHEESE ON IT.

PEOPLE ARE PUTTING ANYTHING IN THERE.

THE GARBAGE MAN GOES THROUGH THE ACT OF PICKING THIS UP FOR RECYCLE AND THIS UP FOR GARBAGE.

I THINK MAY BE WE SHOULD RECYCLE A FEW THINGS.

NEWSPAPERS AND GLASS AND LET EVERYTHING ELSE GO.

>> WE'RE BIG RECYCLERS IN KIRKWOOD.

I'M A PIZZA BOX VIOLATOR.

I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT.

>> YOU AND MY HUSBAND.

>> IT'S CARDBOARD, IT GOES IN THE GREEN.

BY THE TIME IT'S SHREDDED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO WITH IT.

I DON'T THINK THE CHEESE IS SOME PART OF COMPOSITE BINGE IN THE POT.

WHAT I'M HEARING, ONE THIRD OF THE STUFF THAT WAS GOING TO THE LANDFILL IS NOT GOING TO THE LANDFILL.

WE GOT TO START SOME PLACE.

>> THIS IS NOT A CITY PROBLEM.

THIS IS A NATIONAL PROBLEM.

>> IT IS.

WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THE CITY IS THEY DUMP EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

I DON'T SEE THAT IN WHERE I LIVE.

>> THAT POINT TAKEN.

AS FAR AS THIS NATIONALLY, I'M LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, I CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT.

JUST TRY TO FIGURE OUT.

I NEVER KNOW -- >> YOU KNOW SHREDDED PAPER IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE RECYCLED?

>> WHO SAYS THAT?

>> I READ IT.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> THE CITY SO GREEN WHEN IT COMES TO EV VEHICLES OR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

LET'S RIDE BIKES.

YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO RECYCLE?

WHAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENTALIST ARE YOU?

COME ON.

>> YOU CAN TRY.

>> OKAY, MR. PIZZA BOX.

>> ARE WE OPENING A COAL MINE IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS?

>> DON'T PREACH TO ME ABOUT ANY ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.

>> THAT'S OVER THE TOP.

YOU HAVE AN ELECTRIC CAR?

>> I DON'T >> WHY NOT?

>> GIVE THE CITY A CHANCE.

>> THANKS EVERYBODY.

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