>> WELCOME TO "NEXT UP."

OUR SECOND HALF.

RAY, ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE PROGRAM AND I WILL BE TALKING TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY LEADER.

THIS TIME HE'S ST. LOUIS ATTORNEY JERRY SLITKERR WHO HAS INTERESTING PASSIONS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL FIT THEM ALL IN THIS HALF HOUR.

YOU WILL BE AMAZED.

HE'S BEEN PROFILED IN THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" AND "NEW YORK TIMES."

HE HAS DECIDED TO ASSEMBLY UNPRECEDENTED PACKAGE OF BENEFITS FOR THE AFGHAN REFUGEES WHO ARE COMING TO ST. LOUIS WITH THE INTENTION OF MAKING THAT THE NECESSARNEXUS OF AFGHAN REFUGEES IN NORTH AMERICA.

THANK YOU JOINING US ON NINE PBS.

AFGHAN REFUGEES COME HERE REALLY JUST THE SHIRT ON THEIR BACK.

MAY BE A TOOTHBRUSH.

YOU HAVE DECIDED TO HEAD UP AN EFFORT -- YOU ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THE AFGHAN REFUGEES WHO COME HERE REAL NICE BENEFITS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THOSE?

>> THANK YOU.

THIS IS A ONE TIME OPPORTUNITY FOR ST. LOUIS.

AS WE SAW WITH THE BOSNIAN IMMIGRANTS, CRITICALS THAT THAT'S NECESSARY IS THE KEY TO WHERE MIDDLE EAST OF TH -- MOST OF THE PEOPLE END UP.

I ORGANIZED A FOUR-PRONG COMMUNITY WIDE EFFORT TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN THEM.

PHILANTHROPY, THE FAITH COMMUNITY, BUSINESS AND THOSE THREE PRONGS ARE PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT.

THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR VOLUNTEERS.

JUST HAVING A PROGRAM THAT'S UP AND RUNNING RIGHT NOW SO WE CAN SEPARATE OURSELVES FROM THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.

THAT'S THE IDEA HERE.

THERE'S A CALL TO ACTION THAT WE'VE DONE TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY TO VOLUNTEER TO HELP THOSE REFUGEES WITH NEEDS FROM A TO Z, BEING PICKED UP AT THE AIRPORT TO HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, RECOMMENDATIONS ON SCHOOLS, MEDICAL FACILITIES AND SO ON.

THE PROGRAM, THOUGH, TO REALLY HAVE A ROBUST PROGRAM, CHARLIE, I DEVELOPED A NUMBER OF INSTITUTIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE RIGHT NOW AND PAID FOR OUT OF THE BOX LIKE NO CITY IN THE COUNTRY.

FIRST OF ALL, HOUSING IS THE IMPORTANCE.

FAMILIES ARE OVER FIVE AVERAGE.

THEY HAVE BIG FAMILIES.

FINDING THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM APARTMENT IS NOT EASY.

THERE'S A MAJOR HOUSING FUND TO HELP THE INSTITUTIONAL INSTITUTE, WHICH IS OUR RESETTLEMENT AGENCY.

ONE OF NINE IN THE COUNTRY.

THEY ARE GETTING AFGHAN REFUGEES TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN THE TWO OR THREE MONTHS OF RENT THEY CAN PROVIDE AND THE TYPICAL ONE-YEAR LEASE THAT A LANDLORD PREFERS.

SO THAT HOUSING FUND WILL ENABLE THEM TO HAVE MANY MORE HOUSING OPTIONS.

COMMUNITY CENTER, RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE A PLACE TO CONGREGATE.

AFGHAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES.

CODING OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMMERSIVE CODING DONE.

THERE'S A GREAT COMPANY CALLED CLAIM ACADEMY WHICH IS FOUNDED BY AN IMMIGRANT.

HE'S DOING CODING FOR UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AND HAS VETERANS WHO COME HERE FOR CODING.

TRANSLATOR FOR THEM, LIAISON WITH THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE TO HELP HANDLE THESE SERVICES.

VERY IMPORTANTLY, A NEWSPAPER.

IN THE BOSNIAN COMMUNITY, WHAT HAPPENED WAS, THEY ESTABLISHED A NEWSPAPER VERY EARLY ON.

THIS WOULDN'T BE PRINT.

IT WILL BE DIGITAL.

FOR LOCAL REFUGEES TO CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER AND HEAR ABOUT JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND HEAR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE OLD COMMUNITY.

FOR AFGHAN REFUGEES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON IN IS ST. LOUIS.

THAT WAS A KEY FACTOR ESTABLISHING A SECONDARY MIGRATION WITH THE BOSNIAN.

iPADS FOR THE FAMILIES.

SO THEY CAN BE BE CONNECTED.

INDOOR SOCCER FIELDS FOR KIDS AT MANCHESTER AND KINGSHIGHWAY.

THAT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM.

IT'S LIKE NOTHING ELSE IN THE UNITED STATES.

IT'S PAID FOR AND WE'LL BEGIN RIGHT NOW.

>> YOU DID START ARCH GRANT ABOUT A DECADE AGO.

I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE AFGHAN REFUGEES.

SEEM LIKE OUR EXPERIENCE WITH BOSNIAN MUSLIMS WHO CAME HERE WERE SUCCESSFUL.

THEY DIDN'T END UP WHERE THEY STARTED.

THEY CAME AND IT MAY BE FINE.

I DON'T KNOW THE STATISTICS.

I DON'T THINK WE IN THE MEDIA COVERED IT VERY WELL.

ORIGINALLY, THEY WERE IN THE CITY AND THEN THEY WEREN'T.

IS THERE A STRATEGY IN THIS CASE FOR MORE OF A LONG-TERM COMMUNITY?

MAY BE IT WORKED OUT FOR THE BEST THE WAY IT DID.

YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION.

WHAT CAN MAKE IT WORK MORE LONG-TERM FOR THE COMMUNITY WHEREVER IT IS THAT THEY MIGHT SETTLE?

>> GREAT QUESTION.

THAT'S A COMPLEX ANSWER IN MY OPINION.

IT'S THE STORY NOT ONLY OF BOSNIANS BUT OF PEOPLE IN GENERAL WHO GET TO CERTAIN ECONOMIC LEVEL AND WANT BETTER SCHOOLS AND MOVE OUT OF THE CITY TO SUBURBAN AREAS.

IT'S ALSO A STORY OF IMMIGRANTS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

THE DIFFERENCE HERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOWER EAST SIDE, NEW YORK, IT'S BEEN A STORY OF GENERATION AFTER GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS FROM NEW COUNTRIES REPLACING IMMIGRANTS WHO GO TO QUEENS OR ELSEWHERE.

WHEN SOMEBODY LIVING IN LADUE OR WEST COUNTY OR ST. CHARLES COUNTY, IT'S EASY TO THINK THAT THE CITY IS DIVORCED FROM THEIR INTERESTS.

WE HEAR ALL THE STORIES AND THE NEGATIVE STORIES.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A VIBRANT URBAN CORE, WE DON'T HAVE A THRIVING METROPOLITAN AREA.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

IT MEANS WE LOSE OPPORTUNITY.

WE LOSE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHOICES.

WE LOSE PEOPLE TO MAKE IT IT KIND OF REGION WE WANT IT TO BE.

THIS AFGHAN SITUATION IS AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT'S AN INFUSION POTENTIALLY OF PEOPLE TO COMBAT THE POPULATION AND STAGNATION LOSS THAT WE HAD RELATIVE TO OTHER CITIES.

THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

THE PROBLEM YOU MENTIONED, RAY, IS A PROBLEM THAT'S A BIGGER PROBLEM.

>> YOU MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, BIG PROBLEM FOR REFUGEES.

HOUSING IS UNAFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO BEEN HERE, WHO IS SPEAKING ENGLISH WHO HAS HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE DEGREES.

HOW SOMEBODY COMING TO THE UNITED STATES, EVEN AFTER A YEAR OF SUBSIDY WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD A THREE BEDROOM APARTMENT IN THE GREATER ST. LOUIS AREA?

I KNOW IS CHEAPER THAN NEW YORK OR PHILLY, BOSTON AND CHICAGO.

NONETHELESS, IT SEEMS OUT OF REACH.

>> GREAT QUESTION.

BECAUSE OF THAT COST OF HOUSING, THE ORIGINAL LOCATION IN CALIFORNIA AND TEXAS IN PARTICULAR, THAT WERE SCHEDULED TO GET THE AFGHAN REFUGEES ARE TAPPED OUT.

THEY CAN'T HANDLE ANYMORE.

THEY CAN'T GET THE HOUSING AT A REASONABLE GOVERNMENT.

THE GOVERNMENT SAID THAT THE MIDWEST IS THE PREFERRED LOCATION.

IT'S AN EVEN GREATER OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, DO WE HAVE ONE ADVANTAGE NOW THAT WE DID NOT HAVE MUCH OF THE PAST.

EVERYBODY SAYS, JOBS NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR EMPLOYEES.

SCHNUCKS, TODD SCHNUCKS MADE A CALL TO ACTION FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO STEP FORWARD.

HE'LL BE ASKING SCHNUCKS EMPLOYEES TO VOLUNTEER.

ONE OF THE CASINOS SAY THEY CAN TAKE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IF THE OPPORTUNITY WERE THERE.

THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE IS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT JOBS.

THAT'S THE KEY.

>> IT'S SO LOGICAL THAT ST. LOUIS WILL BE GREAT.

HOUSING COAS COSTS ARE WAY LOWER.

I DO WANT TO GET BACK TO ARCH GRANTS.

IT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT'S WONDERFUL INITIATIVE.

YOU BROUGHT ABOUT.

WAS IT 2012?

>> WE GOT IT OFF THE GROUND IN 2011.

FIRST COHORT OF THE WINNERS GLOBAL START-UP COMPETITION WAS IN 2012.

>> TELL OUR AUDIENCE ABOUT IT.

TELL US WHAT YOU DO AT ARCH GRANTS AND HOW MUCH YOU DO.

>> IT ARISED FROM THE SAME MOTIVATIONS.

THAT IS, DESIRE TO MAKE ST. LOUIS MORE VIBRANT.

WE LOST GIANT CORPORATIONS TO ACQUISITIONS OR MOVING OR DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGY.

WE GOT TO GROW OUR OWN.

THAT'S WHAT I SAW TO TRY TO DO THAT WITH A GLOBAL START-UP COMPETITION.

LOOKING AROUND THE COUNTRY, THERE ARE OTHERS, PRIMARILY UNIVERSITY AFFILIATE BUT THEY ALL TAKE EQUITY IN THE COMPANY, 10% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT IF THERE WERE WAY TO AVOID THAT.

HOW WOULD YOU RAISE MONEY WITH SOMEBODY NOT GETTING A PIECE OF THE COMPANY?

THE ONLY WAY WOULD BE A TAX DEDUCTIBLE NONPROFIT DONATION.

AT LEAST THERE'S THAT TAX DEDUCTIBLE INCENTIVE.

I MADE THE CASE TO I.R.S.

THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.

I WAS TOLD BY SENIOR LAWYER HERE, THE IDEA IS TO GIVE GRANTS.

$50,000 GRANTS PLUS FREE, DISCOUNTED ACCOUNTING SERVICE TO THE WINNERS OF GLOBAL COMPETITION.

BECAUSE THEY ARE FOR PROFIT COMPANIES, HOW DO YOU HAVE I.R.S.

APPROVE AN ORGANIZATION WHICH IS FOR NONPROFIT STATUS?

I FOUND, IT'S AN ORGANIZATION AIMED AT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMICALLY DISTRESSED AREAS THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR NONPROFIT STATUS.

ALL THE DATA STATISTICS MADE THE CASE TO THE I.R.S.

THAT'S WHAT IT WILL BE.

VERY DIVERSE APPLICANTS AND THEY APPROVED THAT STATUS.

THAT WAS THE LINCHPIN IN 2012.

LOTS OF NAYSAYERS.

CAN'T RAISE THE MONEY.

YOU CAN'T DO IT AT SCALE.

I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT WITH ONE OR TWO GRANTS.

WE FORMED A BOARD TO THEIR CREDIT, OTHERS ON THE BOARD WERE VERY BOUGHT IN ON THE MISSION.

WE JUMPED OFF THE CLIFF AS WITH SO MANY THINGS.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WILL LAND.

IF YOU WANT TO BE SURE, YOU DON'T JUMP.

THE COMMUNITY AND THE ST. LOUIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN AWESOME IN ITS SUPPORT.

WE HAD HUNDREDS OF APPLICATIONS EVEN IN THE FIRST YEAR.

WE'VE BEEN GIVING FOR THE LAST YEAR, GRANTS $50,000 A PIECE.

WE HAVE NOW FUNDED 208 COMPANIES WITH $50,000, 84% OF THEM REMAIN IN BUSINESS.

THESE ARE START-UPS.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE NATIONAL OR INTERNATIONAL SALES POTENTIAL.

OUT NOT JUST MOVING TOWARDS AROUND WITH LOCAL BUSINESS A TAKE FROM ANOTHER BUSINESS.

60% OF COMPANIES IN BUSINESS REMAIN IN ST. LOUIS.

WE'VE ATTRACTED PHLEGM ALL OTHER -- THEM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, NEW YORK, CHICAGO, SAN FRANCISCO, SAN JOSE AND PLACES LIKE LONDON AND SOUTH KOREA.

THEY ARE HERE.

THEY ARE MOSTLY DOWNTOWN IN THE CITY AND DIVERSE.

>> I ASSUME YOU HAVE THE WEBSITE?

>> YES.

>> HOW MANY JOBS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ARCH GRANT COMPANIES?

>> DIRECTLY, OVER 2300 JOBS.

WE JUST THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE GENEROSITY OF LOT OF PEOPLE, INCREASED THE NUMBER FROM 20 GRANTS TO 35.

JUST WHOLE NEW LEVEL AND WE ALSO ESTABLISHED A FOLLOW ON GRANT PROGRAM SO THAT THE BEST OF THE BEST CAN APPLY FOR A SECOND ROUND AND GET $100,000.

THIS IS UNHEARD OF.

>> FIRST HALF THE SHOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DEMOLISHING HOMES AFTER WE HAD THE TRAGIC LOSS OF A FIREFIGHTER A WEEK AGO TODAY.

WE HAD THIS DEBATE IN THE FIRST 30 MINUTES.

DO YOU PRESERVE THE HOMES OR DO YOU TEAR THEM DOWN FOR SAFETY REASONS.

YOU ARE THE GENTLEMAN WHO WROTE HISTORIC TAX CREDIT LEGISLATION FOR THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

WHICH GIVES DEVELOPERS A TAX CREDIT IF THEY RENOVATE OLD HOMES.

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ON THIS?

IF THERE'S DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE, WHAT DO YOU DO?

>> THAT TRAGEDY WAS UNSPEAKABLE.

I THINK THE SOLUTION IS TO FIND A WAY TO REHAB THOSE BUILDINGS, THOSE HOUSES.

THE STATE HISTORIC TAX CREDIT IS A TOOL FOR THAT.

THERE ARE IMMEDIATE NEEDS.

THOSE IMMEDIATELY DIFFICULT BUILDINGS NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE TO SEND A FIREFIGHTER IN A BUILDING LIKE THAT, IT'S UNHEARD OF.

THIS IS OUR HERITAGE.

THE REASON THAT I DID THE STATE HISTORIC TAX CREDIT, WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL COLLECTION OF HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT OTHER CITIES WOULD DIE FOR.

IT'S OUR BEST ASSET.

TO DEMOLISH IT WITH A VACANT LOT IT'S A REAL HARM TO THE CITY MY VIEW.

I THINK WE FIND A WAY TO GET ENOUGH PROTECTION AND GET THEM PROTECTED, GET A ROOF ON THEM, CLOSE THEM OFF TO THE ELEMENTS AND THEN PUT THEM OUT FOR BID FOR DEVELOPERS TO USE THE STATE HISTORIC TAX CREDIT WHICH WILL -- >> HISTORIC TAX CREDITS IS CONTROVERSIAL POLITICALLY.

SEEM LIKE WE HAD A GOVERNOR AGO -- LET ME SHIFT GEARS.

WERE YOU SURPRISED IT BECAME POLITICAL LIGHTENING ROUND?

DO YOU THINK THE CITY IS DOING -- HAS DONE ENOUGH TO CATALOG AND TRACK AND ACCOUNT FOR THIS LARGE NUMBER OF VACANT PROPERTIES.

TO THESE TRAGEDIES DON'T HAPPEN.

>> I DREW UP IN ILLINOIS, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SMALL TOWN IS.

THE COALITION WE PUT TOGETHER TO GET THE LAW PASSED IT WAS UNLIKE ALMOST ANYTHING IN MISSOURI.

SMALL TOWN AND ST. LOUIS AND KANSAS CITY, JOINING HANDS.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, SMALL TOWNS HAVE A MAIN STREET OF MERCHANTS.

WAL-MART BUILD A STRIP MALL AND ALL THE MERCHANTS GO THERE OR THE VITALITIES SUCKED OUT.

WE GOT IT THROUGH AND IT'S BEEN A REMARKABLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENGINE FOR THE STATE OF MISSOURI AND ST. LOUIS.

STATISTICS, $8.5 BILLION IN DIRECT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE STATE, ACROSS THE STATE, NOT JUST IN URBAN AREAS.

SMALL TOWNS THAT I CAN NAME 50 OF THEM.

$4 BILLION OF THAT HAS BEEN IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

IT'S AN ADVANTAGE.

IN TERMS OF YOUR SECOND QUESTION, THE FAILURE TO HAVE MORE REHAB, ESPECIALLY IN NORTH CITY, IT'S A TOUGH QUESTION.

I THINK PART OF IT IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT MAY BE SOME PEOPLE HAVEN'T UNDERSTOOD.

IT'S AVAILABLE.

IT'S NOT CONTROVERSIAL IN ST. LOUIS.

THERE ARE CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE LEG -- WE'RE THE NATIONAL MODEL.

I GET CALLS TO THIS DAY FROM PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY WHO SAY, WE LIKE TO HAVE A STATE CREDIT LIKE YOURS.

>> YOUR DAY JOB, YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY.

WHAT WE DESCRIBED YOUR HOBBIES.

YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES" AND THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUED CORPORATIONS WHICH OPERATED THEIR 401Ks AFOUL OF FEDERAL LAW.

FEDERAL LAW SAYS THE 401K PLANS HAS TO BE RUN WITH THE BEST BREAST OF THE EMPLOYEE IN MIND.

LOT OF CORPORATIONS DON'T DO THAT.

ACCORDING TO EITHER THE JOURNAL OR "NEW YORK TIMES," YOU HAVE SAVED EMPLOYEES $2 BILLION IN FEES.

IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES, $2.2 BILLION ANNUALLY IN THE 401K INDUSTRY.

>> IN MANY WAYS, THE SOMETIMES THE EMPLOYEES WOULD CHARGE FEES THAT WERE TOO HIGH?

>> YES.

MY DAD WAS AN AIRCRAFT MECHANIC.

WORKED AT SCOTT AIR FORCE BASE AND THEN DOWNTOWN.

WHEN HE DID, MY MOM LIVED ON HIS PENSION.

SHE HAD THAT STEADY CHECK COMING ON THE PENSION.

THE DAYS OF THE DEFINE BENEFIT TRADITIONAL PENSION AND PRIVATE BUSINESS ARE -- GONE.

REPLACED ABOUT THE 401K MODEL MARKET GOES UP, GREAT, MARKET GOES DOWN, THAT'S ON THE EMPLOYEE.

LAW REQUIRES FEES BE REASONABLE.

IT'S THE EMPLOYER'S OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THE CASE.

THEY ARE LIKE A TRUSTEE FOR EMPLOYEES RETIRING.

IF THEY DON'T DO THEIR J THEIR EMPLOYEES PAID TOO MUCH.

>> YOU GOT A CALENDAR ITEM TO GO VISIT THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT SOMETIME COMING UP YOUR LAST TIME THERE WAS 2015 AND YOU WON UNANIMOUSLY?

THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERY DAY DOES IT.

>> THE FIRST TIME THE SUPREME COURT EVER CONSIDERED A CASE WAS OUR CASE AND U.S. SUPREME COURT.

>> IS IT NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY, I SAW ONE OF THEIR ARGUMENTS THAT WAS AN INTERESTING INTERCHANGE.

THEY ARGUE WE PROVIDE A MENU OF CHOICES WITH THEIR RETIREMENT FUNDS.

IT'S COMPLICATED.

IT'S ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE.

THIS SEEMS LIKE -- WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THIS?

DO YOU ACTUALLY GO UP AND ARGUE?

WHERE ARE YOU IN THE PROCESS THIS TIME?

>> THE PROCESS NOW IS THAT THE CASES HAS BEEN BRIEFED AND ARGUED.

I DIDN'T ARGUE IT.

I WANTED TO WE BROUGHT IN A D.C. LAWYER.

TO ARGUE A CASE IN THE U.S. -- I NEED ABOUT TWO MONTHS OF YOUR LIFE TO GET READY.

I DOWNTOWN THAT.

WE HAVE THE U.S.

SOLICITOR GENERAL SUPPORTING OUR POSITION AS WELL AS AARP, EVERYBODY AGREES ON ONE THING.

THIS CASE WILL AFFECT EVERY 401K PLAN IN AMERICA.

>> WITHOUT GETTING TOO PERSONAL, THE MONEY THAT YOU EARNED THROUGH THIS WORK IS FUNDING LOT OF YOUR WORK WITH THE AFGHAN REFUGEES HERE IN ST. LOUIS?

>> YES.

>> HOW DO PEOPLE GET INVOLVED IN VOLUNTEER WITH THE AFGHAN REFUGEES WHICH YOU VITALLY THEM TO DO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM?

>> st A -- THERE'S A BIG NEED FOR VOLUNTEERS.

REASSESSMENT AGENCIES DOWNSIDED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

THEY NEED SUPPLEMENT OF WHAT THEY CAN DO.

THEY CAN CONTACT THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE AND OFFER TO VOLUNTEER WHAT'S NEEDED.

WHATEVER NEEDS THERE ARE FOR A FAMILY, THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE NEED SOME MONEY TO OFFSET THE EXPENSE.

TODD SCHNUCKS ON BEHALF OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY DID THE SAME THING.

>> WE CAN CONTACT THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE.

WE'RE OUT OF TIME FOR THIS SEGMENT.

THERE'S MANY TOPICS WE DIDN'T APPROACH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU RAY AND WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK AT THIS TIME.

STAY WARM.

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