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Donnybrook Next Up: November 3, 2022
Season 2022 Episode 80 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
The panel is joined by Rabbi Susan Talve of Central Reform Congregation.
On Donnybrook Next Up, the panel is joined by Rabbi Susan Talve of Central Reform Congregation to discuss recent antisemitic incidents in media.
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BILL AND I WELCOMING YOU.
THIS IS THE PROGRAM SECOND HALF OF DONNYBROOK WHERE WE TALK ABOUT IMPORTANT REGIONAL TOPICS WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS.
TODAY OUR TOPIC IS IMPORTANT AND IT IS DISTURBING.
THE ANTI DEFAMATION LEAGUE REPORTED THAT ANTI-SEMITIC INCIDENTS IN 2021 WERE THE HIGHEST ON RECORD.
AVERAGING 7 PER DAY IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND WE HAVE SEEN SOME ANTI-SEMITIC BEHAVIOR IN THE NEWS.
WE THOUGHT WE WOULD INVITE RABBI SUSAN TALVE FROM CENTRAL REFORM CONGREGATION BACK TO 9 PBS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
HOW ARE YOU?
>> I'M GOOD.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> THIS IS A DISTURBING TOPIC WHEN WE FIND OUT THERE ARE 7 ANTI-SEMITIC INCIDENTS PER DAY IN THE UNITED STATES.
>> ONE OUT OF FOUR JEWISH PEOPLE WILL SAY THEY HAVE HAD SOME FORM OF AGGRESSION.
IT IS WORSE ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES WHICH IS PORT TO NOTE.
-- IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
YOU THINK KIDS ON CAMPUSES, YOU WOULD THINK IT IS THE MOST OPEN PLACE AND PEOPLE CAN TALK ABOUT THEIR DIFFERENCES.
BUT THE ANTI-SEMITISM IS SO BAD ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES THEY ARE HIDING.
BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF THE VIOLENCE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE THINGS YOU DO AND THE HELP TO THE COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY IN THE QUIET WAYS.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT POLITICS A LITTLE BIT AS ELECTION DAY IS MANY COMING.
I'M SURE YOU KNOW LAST YEAR THERE WAS AN EFFORT IN THE HOUSE TO STRIP MARJORIE TAILOR GREEN BECAUSE OF TWEETS SHE HAD MADE THAT SUGGESTED THAT THE JEWISH, THE ROSENTHAWS STARTED THE WILDFIRES FOR FINANCIAL GAIN.
REPRESENTATIVE ANNE WAGNER FROM THE COUNTY VOTED AGAINST SANCTIONING HER AND SAYING THE TWEETS WERE OLD WHEN GREEN RAN FOR OFFICE.
SECONDLY, ANNE WAGNER IS AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM AND SHE DIDN'T THINK THAT GREEN REALLY BELIEVED THAT STUFF EITHER.
AT THE TIME I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WE HAVE INTERESTED DANGEROUS TIMES WHEN A REASONABLE POLITICIAN, I THOUGHT AS ANNE AS REASONABLE, WON'T COME OUT AGAINST SOMEBODY WHO IS CLEARLY ANTI-SEMITIC.
I DIDN'T WRITE ABOUT IT OR ANYTHING.
AND I PICKED UP THE PAPER THIS MORNING AND READ ABOUT THE REOPENING OF THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM AND ANNE WAGNER WAS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS.
SHE IS THE CONGRESSWOMAN OUT THERE AND HELPED GET MONEY.
AND THE WHOLE THING KIND OF CONFUSED ME.
AND I WONDERED TO MYSELF, I UNDERSTAND THE POLITICS OF IT, ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS THAT DID VOTE GOT PRIMARIED OUT.
IN THE POLITICS TODAY, IT IS UNREALISTIC TO EXPECT A POLITICIAN TO STAND UP AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM?
AND HOW SHOULD THOW SHOULD THE REST OF US HANDLE?
IF WE HEAR IT, SHOULD WE LET IT GO?
>> I HOPE NOT.
IT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.
IT IS NOT JUST ANTI-SEMITISM ANTI-SEMITISM.
IT IS THE OLD HATE THERE IS.
YOU COULD BE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S RIGHTS ARE ON THE LINE.
AND THE CHRISTIAN MOVEMENT, THAT IS NEITHER CHRISTIAN OR NATIONALISTS, HAS A POLITICAL AGENDA.
IT IS ALL POLITICAL.
YOU ARE RIGHT TO SAY IT IS POLITICAL.
WHO IS GETTING LOST IN THE CONVERSATION IS THE TRUTH.
AND SO, WHEN YOU SEE ANNE WAGNER SELLING OUT HERE, OR COMPROMISING, NOW IT IS NOT MAKING CONSENSUS.
IT IS COMPROMISING HER OWN VALUES.
SHE IS A REASONABLE PERSON.
WHEN SHE DON'T CALL OUT ANTI-SEMITISM, IT IS FOR POLITICAL OPPOTUNISTICS REASONS.
IT IS NOT OKAY.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN THIS SERIOUS SITUATION WE ARE IN NOW.
>> SHE CALLED IT OUT BUT COULDN'T VOTE AGAINST GREEN.
WHO COULD BLAME HER?
SHE IS IN A SAFE REPUBLICAN DISTRICT.
IF SHE HAD DONE IT, SHE WOULD'VE BEEN PRIMED AND SHE IS CRUISING TO A VICTORY TUESDAY NIGHT.
>> CAN I BRING UP CORY BUSH.
>> I WAS GOING TO BRING HER UP IN A MINUTE.
>> BUSH HAS ONE OF THE FUNDRAISING COLLEAGUES -- IN THE PREVIOUS LIFE TWEETED ANTI-SEMITIC LANGUAGE SAYING SHE HATES JEWS AND WISH SOME OF THOSE OTHER PEOPLE WOULD BURN AND SHE REFUSED TO GIVE AN INTERVIEW TO THE JEWISH LIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS CHANGED THAT.
>> IT IS BOTH SIDES.
>> IT IS.
I HAD MADE A NOTE ABOUT IASH IASH.
I WANT TO SET ISRAEL ON FIRE WITH MY OWN FIRE AND WATCH IT BURN TO ASHES.
I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, RABBI TALVE, YOU ARE IN THE FIRST DISTRICT.
YOUR SYNAGOGUE IN THE FIRST DISTRICT.
YOU LIVE THERE.
SO I DO.
HAVE YOU HAD OCCASION TO TALK TO BUSH WHO IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE?
WHAT KIND OF DIALOGUE DO YOU HAVE WITH HER ON STUFF LIKE THIS?
>> I KNOW NAVINE WELL.
WHEN YOU TALK TO HER ABOUT THE COMMENTS SHE WILL SAY I WAS YOUNG.
I GREW UP IN THE WEST BANK AND MY FAMILY SUFFERED AND I SUFFERED AND THAT'S WHAT IT CAME OUT OF.
TODAY SHE IS A DIFFERENT PERSON.
I HAVE HAD HER SPEAK TO MY CONFIRMATION DELICACY CONFIRMATION CLASSES AND 10TH GRADE ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE.
THIS IS ABOUT DIALOGUE AND NOT DEMONIZING EACH OTHER.
THAT WHAT ANTI-SEMITIC DOES.
IT DEHUMANIZING PEOPLE AND DEMONIZING PEOPLE TO THEIR OWN OPPORTUNITYISM.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
I HATE TO BRING IT UP, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO KANYE.
WHAT IS HE THINKING?
YOU CAN'T GET THOSE WORDS BACK.
AND NAVINE KNOWS THAT TOO.
SHE SAID SOME BAD THINGS AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM.
AND WE HAVE HAD HAD SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
SHE IS LIKE A DAUGHTER TO ME IN MANY WAYS.
SHE KNOWS I LOVE ISRAEL.
WE TALK ABOUT IT.
THAT'S WHAT SAVES US.
THAT IS WHAT WILL SAVE US.
>> ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS IS, WHETHER IT IS KANYE WEST, I THINK HE IS MENTALLY ILL. >> FOR SURE.
YEAH.
>> HE SAYS THESE ANTI JEWISH THINGS.
>> AND NOW KERRY IRVING.
IT IS CALLED FROM HEBREWS TO HIGROSNIGR HIGROSNIGROS.
HE WROTE A CHECK AND AN APOLOGY.
>> PEOPLE OF THAT ROLE MODEL.
AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE MORE FOLLOWERS ON TWITTER THAN THANNETHANNE JEWS.
15 MILLION.
THIS KIND OF LANGUAGE IS DANGEROUS.
>> YOU CAN'T DELETE A TWEET.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOCIAL MEDIA AND SEE WHAT KIND OF DAMAGE IT IS DOING.
WE HAVE TO BE SMART ABOUT THE WHY AND WHERE IT IS COMING FROM AND WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE TO BE THE CANARAY IN THE COAL MINE.
WHEN THE SCHOOLS ARE BANNING BOOKS, SOMETHING IS WRONG.
WE ARE MISSING SOMETHING.
AND PEOPLE ARE SCARED.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE POWER PEOPLE ON THE TOP THAT, YOU KNOW, PUT 6 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES, RIGHT, IN POWER, THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY AND GROUPS LIKE THAT THAT ARE POWER PEOPLE ARE PREYING ON THE FEARS AND FRUSTRATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A VOICE.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM.
>> YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WEBSI WEBSITE TRU NEWS.
WHO BROKE THE STORY THAT JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS -- AND THEY CALLED AN IMPEACHMENT A JEW-CO. AND THEY WERE AWARDED PRESS CREDENTIALS.
AS MUCH AS I DON'T LIKE DONALD TRUMP, TRUMP IS JEWISH, JARED KUSHNER IS JEWISH.
WHAT IS GOING ON?
>> WHAT IS HAPPENING FROM THE EXTREME LEFT AND RIGHT, TO BE A GOOD JEW FOR THE EXTREME LEFT IS A DIFFERENT JEW THAN FOR THE EXTREME RIGHT.
THERE ARE GOOD JEWS AND BAD JEWS.
EVERYBODY KNOWS ONE JEW THAT THEY LIKE.
THEY GET AROUND IT AND THE GOOD JEWS ON THE LEFT ARE ANTI-OCCUPATION.
THE WHOLE KIND OF FAR LEFT LEFT.
I AM PRO-PEACE AND PRO-ISRAEL.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WILL LIVE TOGETHER.
ALL THE WAY ON THE RIGHT, TO BE A GOOD JEW IS TO BE AN ORTHODOX JEW AND BUYS INTO THE CULTURAL AGENDA THAT IS FEEDING, PREYING ON THE FEARS OF THE PEOPLE THAT I THINK PEOPLE ON THE TOP THAT ARE TRYING TO MANIPULATE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
>> IT DOES.
I GUESS SOME CHRISTIANS IN OUR AUDIENCE MAY BE SURPRISED THAT JUST ABOUT EVERY SYNAGOGUE IN THE WORLD HAS ARMED PROTECTION DURING ITS SERVICES, WHEREVER YOU GO.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND JEWS HOPING TO PRAY TOGETHER CAN'T FIND A SYNAGOGUE BECAUSE IT IS UNMARKED FOR SECURITY REASONS.
>> AND NOT ONLY THAT, YOU CAN'T GET IN UNLESS YOU HAVE MADE ARRAIGNMENTS BEFORE AND PROVE WHO YOU ARE AND YOU STILL HAVE TO GET THROUGH ARMED GUARDS.
WE ARE SPENDING SO MUCH ON SECURITY, IT IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST BUDGET ITEMS RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE DETECTERS FOR THE HOLIDAYS.
>> WE HAVE A SECURITY PERSON, AN OFFICE OF SECURITY, SO WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS IN TOUCH WITH THE FBI, IN TOUCH WITH POLICE AND EVERYONE ELSE, AND MONITORING SOCIAL MEDIA.
YOU KNOW?
SO, IF SOMETHING LOOKS FUNNY, WE ARE ALL ON IT, WE ARE ALL ON THIS BIG NETWORK OF INFORMATION.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN AMAZING PERSON WHO MONITORS ALL OF THIS FOR US.
WE HAD -- >> DOES HE FIND MUCH?
>> OH, YEAH, THERE IS SO MUCH.
OH, MY GOD.
WE GET INCIDENT REPORTS, A LOT OF THEM.
>> ARE THEY VIOLENT?
JUST HATEFUL COMMENTS?
>> THEY ARE WARNINGS.
THERE WAS A CAR A SUSPICIOUS CAR THAT HAD RACIST HATE SPEECH, ANTI-SEMITIC SPEECH HANGING OUTSIDE OF A SCHOOL.
WE WERE ALL WATCHING WHAT HAPPENS.
SOME OF THIS IS DETERRING SOME OF THE VIOLENCE.
THERE WAS A GUY THAT JUST CAME UP FOR TRIAL WHO MADE A THREAT AGAINST CRC AN A YEAR AGO.
HE IS GOING TO PRISON BECAUSE HE TOLD US WE WAS GOING TO BLOW US UP SATURDAY MORNING AND THEY TOOK HIM SERIOUSLY.
>> I READ A COLUMN, MAYBE IN THE POST DISPATCH RECENTLY FROM A JEWISH MAN THAT SAID ALL OF A SUDDEN, WHERE WE MIGHT GO.
THE JEWISH PEOPLE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS MEMORY IN THE UNITED STATES ARE TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO LEAVE FOR SAFETY REASONS.
HAVE YOU HEARD TALK LIKE THAT?
>> SURE.
JONATHAN GREENBLAT SAID IT.
I HEARD SOMETHING DRIVING HERE.
WE HAVE BEEN SAYING NEVER AGAIN.
THEY ARE IN NEVER.
THAT'S HOW DANGEROUS HE THINKS THE RHETORIC AND HATE SPEECH AND POTENTIAL VIOLENCE IS.
WHEN YOU SAW JANUARY 6, PEOPLE WITH NAZI SYMBOLS AND OTHER HATE INCIDENTS.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY.
AND OCTOBER 27 WAS THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE SYNAGOGUE ATTACK.
THEY LOOK THE SAME.
THE SAME YOUNG MAN WHO SHOT UP THE WORSHIPPERS ON SATURDAY MORNING, THE TREE OF LIFE IN PITTSBURGH WAS NOT THE SAME GUY, BUT THE SAME PROFILE AS THE GOD WHO KILLED THE PEOPLE AT MOTHER EMANUEL CHURCH.
WE KNOW ABOUT CRT AND THE LIES ABOUT THE ELECTION.
IT IS NOT JUST CR T, BUT EVERYTHING ATTACHED TO IT.
IT IS THE SAME THING ABOUT THE GUY WHO KILLED THE PEOPLE IN THE GROCERY STORE.
WE ARE AFRAID RIGHT NOW.
YES, WE ARE AFRAID.
I GREW UP -- I'M GOING TO BE 70, I GREW UP WITH PARENTS WHO LIVED THROUGH WORLD WAR II.
I WAS BORN AFTER.
IF IT HAPPENED IN GERMANY, IT COULD HAPPEN ANYWHERE.
WE HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT WHERE WOULD WE GO?
>> LET ME ASK YOU TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE ANTI-SEMITIC INCIDENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN PLACES LIKE CROWN HEIGHTS.
YOU TALK TO PEOPLE THERE, THEY ARE NOT DONE BY WHITE NATIONALISTS WHO DON'T LIVE THERE.
THE RESIDENTS THERE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE KNOCKING DOWN SOMEONE OR YELLING SOMETHING HATEFUL ARE NOT PERSUADED BY DONALD TRUMP.
OR WHITE NATIONALS.
IT IS A NATION OF ISLAM?
IT IS KANYE WEST?
WHAT EXPLAINS THE ATTACKS FROM THE OTHER SIDE?
>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
WHEN WE LOOK AT IT AGAIN, ANTI-SEMITISM IS ONE OF THE OLDEST HATES AND WHAT FUELLING IT, THEN IT MAKES SENSE THAT A GROUP THAT IS OPPRESSED THAT WILL LOOK FOR A SCAPEGOAT.
WHEN THEY ARE FED RHETORIC AND LIES ABOUT ALL OF THE STATEMENTS, JEWS TAKING OVER THE WORLD, AND PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS.
IF YOU ARE FED THIS RHETORIC ABOUT JEWISH PEOPLE.
AND I HAVE TO SAY, PART OF THE PROPAGANDA, RHETORIC, MAYBE WE CALL IT PROPAGANDA, IT IS ON PURPOSE, THAT HITLER USED, WAS THOSE JEWS.
THEY KILLED YOUR GOD.
THEY KILLED YOUR CHRIST.
THAT'S ANOTHER STATEMENT THAT GETS USED AGAINST JEWS.
IT IS NOT HELPFUL.
IT IS HURTFUL.
IT TURNS INTO VIOLENCE.
>> WHAT ABOUT ALLIANCES WITH OTHER MINORITIES, WITH BLACKS AND LATINOS?
IS THERE ANY KIND OF COMING TOGETHER, RABBI TALVE?
IT IS FRICTION OR WHAT?
>> WELL, NO, THERE IS COMING TOGETHER.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, JONATHAN, THE ADL, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CAMPAIGNS IS THE POOR PEOPLE CAMPAIGNS.
GRASSROOTS GROUPS THAT WON'T BE, THAT REALLY ARE TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
RIGHT?
THERE ARE ALLIANCES.
MY WHOLE LIFE HAS BEEN BUILT ON MAKING FRIENDS.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN THE CITY.
I REMEMBER ONE OF THE PRO PROTES PROTESTS, MAYBE THE MCCLUSKY ONE.
>> YOUR NEIGHBOR.
>> AND PEOPLE FROM THE BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT, SAID DON'T WORRY, WE WILL KEEP THE SYNAGOGUE SAFE.
THEY KNEW IT WASN'T JUST PROTESTERS.
THEY KNEW THOSE PROTESTERS WOULDN'T HURT US.
BUT OTHERS USED THIS OPPORTUNITIES TO DO HORRIBLE THINGS.
>> THE FBI ISSUED A WARNING THAT THERE IS A CREDIBLE THREAT AGAINST SYNAGOGUES IN NEW JERSEY.
>> YEAH.
>> IT IS A RELEVANT TOPIC THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY.
>> AS A NON JEW, I HAVE A QUESTION;.
>> SURE.
>> AS OPPOSED TO IT IMPORTANT FOR US AS NON-JEWS NON-JEWS, IF WE SEE ANTI-SEMITIC BEHAVIOR TO CONDEMN IT IMMEDIATELY?
KIND OF GETTING BACK TO ANNE WAGNER AND GREEN, OR THE OTHERS.
AND AS WE DISCUSSED ON DONNYBROOK, ERICK SCHMIDT AND KANYE WEST.
WHENEVER THAT PERSON SAYS SOMETHING THAT APPROACHES ANTI-SEMITI ANTI-SEMITISM, YOU HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY IT IS RIGHT.
AND JIMMIE CARTER STOOD UP AGAINST THE INCLUKKK.
>> PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE NEWS.
OUR LEADERS HAVE TO TAKE A STAND.
>> YES, I'M TOTALLY WITH YOU THERE.
I THINK IF WE DON'T, WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE AND PEOPLE NEED TO SPEAK UP WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.
IT CAN TURN INTO SOMETHING THAT COULD HURT YOUR NEIGHBOR.
I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN NEW YORK AND I GREW UP IN A SUBURB OF NEW YORK.
I TOLD THIS TO MY GRANDCHILDREN.
I REMEMBER BEING MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND BEING OUT WITH HALLOWEEN.
WE WALKED BY A HOUSE THAT WAS DARK AND MY FRIEND SAID, OH, THEY MUST BE JEWS.
I SAID WAIT A MINUTE.
NOT YOU.
NOT YOU.
THEY WOULD THIS BIAS BUILT INTO THEM WHERE IT WASN'T ABOUT ME, THEIR FRIEND, BUT IT WAS.
THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY WERE DOING.
THEY ARE PUTTING ME AT RISK.
MY FAMILY.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.
WE HAVE ALLOWED IMPLICIT AND EXPLICIT BIAS TO GROW IN THE COUNTRY AGAINST LATINO AND BLACK TEAM, AND THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE A STATEMENT, CALLED "KEEP PEACE IN YOUR HOUSE".
I WONDER IF THEY HAD TO DO THAT.
TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S A TIME FOR PEACE IN THE HOUSE.
AND THERE'S A TIME FOR KEEPING THAT KIND OF PEACE WILL GET US IN TROUBLE AND GET US ALL KILLED.
>> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
>> SURE.
>> I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS, I KEEP READING THAT EVANGELISM CHRISTIANS HAVE A DEEP CONNECTION TO ISRAEL BECAUSE OF THE END OF DAYS.
ARE THEY CONSIDERED FRIENDS OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY?
>> NOT BY ME.
>> THE FRIEND OR WEARINESS?
>> UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM.
THEY ARE SUPPORTING ISRAEL AS A RIGHT WING COUNTRY THAT THEY NEED TO JEWS TO, SO THE SECOND COMING WILL COME.
NOT ALL OF THEM.
BUT BASICALLY.
IT IS FURTHERING RIGHT WING, YOU KNOW, FEELINGS IN ISRAEL THAT ARE KEEPING ISRAEL AND PALESTINE RESIDENTS FROM LIVING TOGETHER.
THE EVANGELISM CHRISTIAN, IT IS JUST THE GREEK WORD FOR THE GOSPEL.
IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE TO UNDERSTAND WHO THEY ARE TODAY BECAUSE WHAT THEY WANT.
WE HAVE A SENATOR WHO HAS SAID THIS, HE WANTS TO HAVE A CHRISTIAN NATION THAT IS RUN BY THE GOSPELS.
RIGHT?
THAT THE BASIC FOUNDATION OF THIS NATIONS THE BIBLE.
THEIR BIBLE.
AND THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIBLE.
WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A SKEWED UNDERSTANDING IF YOU STUDY IT.
>> ARE WE PAINTING IT WITH A BROAD BRUSH?
ARE THERE FUNDAMENTAL CHRISTIANS WHO HAVE A GREAT LOVE FOR JEWISH RELIGION?
AND LOVE ISRAEL GREATLY?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS.
I REALLY DO MEAN THAT.
MY MINISTRY IN ST. LOUIS, MY FRIENDS, THE PEOPLE I WORK WITH THE MOST ARE MOSTLY CHRISTIAN MINISTERS.
WE DO THE WHOOSHIOULD IN THE CITY.
ON THE FRONT LINE IN FERGUSON.
MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE GETTING PHOTO ID'S.
THAT WILL KEEP PEOPLE FROM VOTING.
THAT WHOLE THING THAT JEWISH PEOPLE ARE FINDING IN THE MIDDLE OF, JUST, ANTI-HUMAN BEHAVIOR THAT MAKES OTHER PEOPLE THAT IS CAUSING ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS.
>> IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE MODERATE DEMOCRATS AND THE OLD SCHOOL REPUBLICANS WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE PROBLEMS.
IT IS THE PROGRESSIVES WHO SEEM TO BE MORE AGAINST THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
WHEN I WAS A KID, I DON'T REMEMBER A LOT OF ANTI JEWISH STUFF.
AT LEAST AMONG OUR CHRISTIANS.
>> WE HAVE THIRTY SECONDS TO GO.
>> WELL, THAT'S A LOT.
IT HAS CHANGED.
THIS PASSED FORMER PRESIDENT UNLEASHED MAYBE WHAT HE DID WHAT FERGUSON DID.
HE TOOK A SCAB OFF AND IT IS UP TO US TO DO THE HEALING.
IT HAS BEEN THERE UNDER THE SURFACE.
NOW WE REALLY SEE IT.
IT IS SCARY.
BUT WE -- I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT WE DO HAVE THE RELATIONSHIPS AND WE ARE BUILDING THE COALITIONS.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE ENOUGH FRIENDS THAT THEY WILL HAVE OUR BACKS AND WE WILL WORK TOGETHER FOR EACH OTHER'S BENEFIT.
>> RABBI SUSAN TALVE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON THIS EDITION OF NEXT UP.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, EVERYBODY!
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