Donnybrook
Donnybrook: November 10, 2022
Season 2022 Episode 81 | 27m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Sarah Fenske, Joe Holleman, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>>>ANNOUNCER: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.
>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION OF DONNYBROOK DONNYBROOK.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US ON THIS ELECTION WEEK.
>> LET'S START WITH SARAH, THE EXECUTIVE EDITOR SITTING IN FOR WENDY WIESE WHO IS TAKING THE WEEK OFF.
>> JOE FROM THE POST DISPATCH SITTING IN FOR BILL MCCLELLAN.
>> RAY HARTMAN SITTING IN FOR HIMSELF.
THE RIVERFRONT TIMES AND DONNYBROOK.
>> AND FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, WHERE HE EDITS THE NEWS AND WRITES THAT GREAT SPORTS COLUMN, ALVIN REID.
>> WE THINK OUR VIEWERSHIP EXPANDED BY ONE ON TUESDAY EVENING.
AND THERE SHE IS.
THAT 8 POUND, 15 OUNCE BUNDLE OF JOY.
KATHERINE, WHO THE DAUGHTER OF MAGGIE AND JACOB AND SISTER OF HENRY AND SHE IS THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF WENDY WIESE.
AW AWW![CHEERING.].
BLESSINGS TO ALL AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE PHOTOS.
>> WE'LL START WITH YOU, ALVIN.
53 PERCENT OF THE VOTERS IN ST. LOUIS APPROVED, WITH LIMITATIONS, POT, MARIJUANA IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.
YOUR NEWS PAPER SAYS IT IS SINISTER AND SAYS A LOT OF THINGS THAT VOTERS MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT.
PEOPLE TALK ABOUT EXPUNGEMENT, BUT NOT IF YOU WERE CONVICTED OF A CERTAIN FELON FELONY.
DO YOU THINK THERE IS BUYER'S REMORSE?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
MY MOM IS SO PROUD THAT I GET TO START ON THIS TOPIC.
MOM, I DON'T HAVE SOCKS ON, BECAUSE IT IS THE LAST WARM DAY.
I WILL GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> NO BUYER'S REMORSE.
THE PAST CARRIED AND YOU ARE TALKING SPRINGFIELD, ST. LOUIS, AND SOUTHEAST MISSOURI STATE STOOD UP AND MADE ITSELF PROUD.
NO BUYER'S REMORSE.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS IN THE STATE TO VOTE ON THAT IS MORE SERIOUS THAN THAT.
IT WAS TIME.
I WAS PRETTY SURE IT WAS GOING TO PASS.
I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT IT DID BY A GOOD MARGIN.
I DON'T THINK THE PLACE WILL FALL APART.
>> I THINK IT IS A POSITIVE THING FOR THE STATE.
DAN -- WHO HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
>> LONG TIME.
>> HE WAS THE STUDENT BODY.
HE IS AN OLD PERSON LIKE ME.
HE HAS FOUGHT THIS FIGHT.
AND JOHN PAYNE.
I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE CRITICAL OF THE THING ITSELF.
NEVER CRITICAL OF VOTING FOR IT.
I THINK IT WAS AN IMPERFECT THING.
THAT'S EASY TO SAY FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY.
AND THE PEOPLE FROM THE LEFT RESISTING THEM.
IT WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY THING THAT THEY GOT IT PASSED.
AND PEOPLE WHO WERE OPPOSED TO IT, PROHIBITION FOR MARIJUANA WAS A DISASTER AS IT WAS FOR ALCOHOL.
THINK WE NEED -- PEOPLE GOT TO WORK TO MAKE IT BETTER, MAKE IT FAIR -- >> BUT -- >> IT IS A POSITIVE REVENUE GENERATOR.
>> LET ME REMIND YOU, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO MAKE IT FAIR.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE THAT AMENDMENT UNLESS YOU GOT BACK TO THE VOTER FOR A STATEWIDE AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION.
>> PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT UNFAIR.
OTHER STATES HAVE DONE THIS TOO.
YOU START WITH THE MEDICATION MARIJUANA.
>> THEY HAD MICRO LICENSES.
THIS IS THE ONLY WAY FOR THE PEOPLE TO GET IT.
THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SHUT OUT WERE THE PEOPLE OF COLOR.
>> THE PEOPLE OF COLOR GET SHUT OUT OF EVERYTHING IN MISSOURI.
I'M NOT TRYING TO RE-LITIGATE IT.
>> WE ARE NOT LITIGATING.
>> IT WAS NOT GOING TO GET BETTER IN TWO YEARS.
>> I THINK IT COULD HAVE GOTTEN BETTER.
THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT BETTER AND GOTTEN SOME THINGS RIGHT.
>> AND THE PEOPLE OF COLOR WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT -- >> WHEN PEOPLE FOUND OUT THEY CAN SMOKE IN PUBLIC.
>> THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SMOKE IN PUBLIC.
>> WHY NOT?
>> YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING DOWN THE STREET -- >> YEAH.
YOU CAN SMOKE ON A CIGARETTE ON A SIDEWALK.
>> YOU CAN'T WALK DOWN WITH A BOTTLE OF WHISKEY.
>> I LEFT OUT -- >> HOW DID THE VOTERS APPROVE THE LIBERAL MEASURES LIKE EXPANDING MEDICAID OR SAYING NO TO RIGHT TO WORK, AND EXPANDING POT, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES, THEY ARE SO DEEPLY RED?
>> BECAUSE OF GERRYMANDERING FOR ONE THING.
>> THE U.S. SENATE IS NOT GERRYMANDERED.
>> I DON'T THINK MARIJUANA IS A RIGHT OR LEFT ISSUE.
THEY ARE FORCING THEMSELVES INTO THE SUITS THAT NO LONGER FIT.
I KNOW AS MANY REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS THAT SMOKE POT.
>> I'M GLAD IT PASSED.
I HAVE A BUNCH OF PROBLEMS WITH WHAT IT SAYS.
BUT IT NEEDED TO PASS.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LIMITING LICENSES.
I THINK THE MARKET SHOULD DECIDE LIKE THE LIQUOR LICENSES.
AS LONG AS YOU QUALIFY THAT YOU ARE THIS SORT OF PERSON.
YOU CAN OPEN A STORE ON EVERY CORNER, AND THEY WILL CLOSE AND SOMEONE WILL DO IT BETTER.
IT IS CALLED CAPITALISM.
>> RIGHT.
IN THIS AMENDMENT THAT PASSED, THERE ARE NO LIMITS.
SO, THE FACT IS, AND DAN MADE THIS POINT, THERE ARE NO LIMITS, EVERYBODY -- YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT THAT POINT.
THERE SHOULD BE MORE LICENSES.
THERE CAN BE.
THERE IS NOTHING STOPPING THE LEGISLATION TO MAKE AS MANY AS LICENSES.
>> LET'S MOVE ON.
>> SARAH, WITH 51 AND A HALF VOTE, PAGE, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WAS REELECTED.
HE DEFEATED MARK MANTAVANI.
HE HAD 7 WEEKS TO CAMPAIGN.
WE KNOW KATHERINE PINNER DROPPED OUT.
THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.
IF HE HAD 7 MONTHS, NOT 7 WEEKS, WOULD HE HAD A BETTER CHANCE?
>> I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE.
FOR THOSE FOLLOWING POLITICS CLOSELY AND PAGE WAS DAMAGED AND SOME OF THE SCANDALS WOULD CATCH UP TO HIM.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T FOLLOW COUNTY POLITICS CLOSELY.
IT WOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED IF WE WERE LOOKING AT 7 WEEKS.
PEOPLE WERE COMING TO VOTE FOR SENATE, THEY ARE WATCHING CNN AND WIND OUT ABOUT POLITICS AND THEY ARE CHECKING A BOX THEY MAY HAVE HEARD OF.
>> I DISAGREE.
>> I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE WATCHED NINE PBS.
>> I THINK HE WOULD HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE IF HE HAD A LONGER CAMPAIGN.
MANTAVANI WAS A BETTER CANDIDATE.
>> WE LIVE IN A TIME WITH SO VIEW CANDIDATES CAN SEE ANYMORE.
MY VIEW, I FELT, I VOTED FOR MANTAVANI AND FELT STRONGLY ABOUT HIM.
SAM PAGE WON, THERE'S NO WOULD'VE, COULD'VE, SHOULD'VE.
>> I WISH REGARDLESS OF THAT, WE WENT TO NON PARTISAN ELECTIONS LIKE MOST COUNTIES AND CITIES DO BECAUSE THE ISSUES THAT EFFECT COUNTY GOVERNMENT ARE -- WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE -- ARE NOT LEFT, RIGHT, DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN ISSUES AND I SEE NO FUNCTION FOR THE POLITICAL PARTIES IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY.
>> FUNNY YOU SAY THAT.
I COUNTED -- CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG -- MANTAVANI GOT 30 THOUSAND MORE VOTES AS A REPUBLICANS IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY THAN ERIC SCHMIDT DID ON TUESDAY.
>> HE GOT BLASTED IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY.
THAT WAS ONE THING, OKAY, WELL, JUST -- WHO -- I KNEW THAT VALENTINE WOULD WIN.
THAT WAS A THRASHING.
AND PEOPLE ARE -- HOW DO I -- POLARIZED AS WE THINK THEY ARE.
AS THE RHETORIC TELL US.
>> DON'T YOU THINK THAT THIS GUY SUED BY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THAT GOT PARENTS WOUND UP AND MAYBE THOSE WHO DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THAT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> I AM IN THE NEWSPAPER BUSINESS AND YOU ARE IN TV AND RADIO.
WE TALK ABOUT POLITICS AND TRY TO PREDICT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
MORE THAN HALF OF THE PEOPLE DON'T CARE ENOUGH TO GO OUT AND VOTE.
WE ARE TALKING TO EACH OTHER ABOUT THESE NUANCES OF CANDIDATES.
I AGREE WITH SARAH, PEOPLE GO TO VOTE AND SAY, SAM PAGE.
I THINK THAT IS A NAME.
THEY ARE NOT SITTING DOWN WITH GRAPHS AND CHOOSING WHO THEY WILL VOTE FOR.
AND TALKING ABOUT LAST MINUTE RUSHES OF ADS, IT WAS, LIKE, 68 PERCENT OF VOTERS DECIDED WHO THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR A MONTH OR MORE IN ADVANCE.
INSTEAD, WE HAVE THESE RIDICULOUS COMMERCIALS, PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND.
>> THE DEBATE AFTER PAGE AND MANTAVANI OCCURRED AFTER PEOPLE HAVE VOTED.
>> AND ONE THING ABOUT SCHMIDT, THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THEM.
THE FOLKS IN BRIDGETON, HE WAS A POOR KID IN BRIDGETON, HATER OF WEALTH.
THAT'S HOW HE PRONOUNCED HIMSELF.
HE WAS A POOR KID FROM THE STREET.
>> HE WAS THE POOREST PERSON RUNNING FOR THAT OFFICE.
>> A LOT.
I WAS IMPRESSED WITH SCHMIDT AND HIS PLEDGE NOT TO TAKE PLEDGES FROM WEALTHY PEOPLE.
>> I DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT SHE, TRUDY, WAS REFERRED TO AS AN HEIRESS.
>> SOMEONE ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE THREW THAT IN THE FACE OF THE REPUBLICAN.
THAT GOT THROWN IN THERE.
>> YOU SEE REPORTS ON HER AND INSTEAD OF CALLING HER A NURSE, SHE WAS CALLED AN HEIRESS.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU.
I WILL SAY THIS, I WAS JOKING A MINUTE AGO.
THE IDEA OF A REPUBLICAN WITH HUGE MONEY ON BOTH SIDES.
ATTACKING WEALTH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THAT INTO WORDS.
>> HOW ABOUT THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.
YOU REMEMBER, IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO WHEN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WAS TRYING TO START A STADIUM FOR THE RAMS BEFORE THEY LEFT TOWN.
AND MEGAN GREEN, THE BOARD, CLIMBED BRIBERY, THE COLLEAGUES OF HER WERE TAKING BRIBES AND PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.
SHE WAS RIGHT.
SOME WERE.
AND IRONICALLY, SHE BENEFITS FROM THAT AND SHE REPLACES THE BRIBER.
SHE WAS ELECTED.
>> I THINK IT WAS A BRIBEE.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> JUST TO GET THIS RIGHT.
LET'S KEEP THE FACTS.
>> I APPRECIATE THE WORDS.
>> SHE DEFEATED JACK ON TUESDAY.
>> SHE DID.
>> A SIZEABLE -- >> I THINK THE MARGIN IS SIGNIFICANT.
IF IT WAS A 1 OR 2 VOTE, WE WILL REVISIT.
AND THE CITY IS NOT SEEING ELECTIONS AND IT IS NOT THAT BIZARRE, IN PLACE OF THE PRIMARY AND THE GENERAL, THERE'S NOW, YOU KNOW, A RUN-OFF AND SO FORTH.
THIS WAS A SPECIAL ELECTION BECAUSE OF THE PRESIDENT RESIGNED.
THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR ON SCHEDULE, NEXT MARCH, APRIL, THERE IS AN INITIAL ELECTION AND THEN A RUN-OFF.
AND I THINK HER VOTE MARGIN OF 10 PERCENT PLUS WILL -- I HAPPEN TO BE IT IS GREAT THAT SHE WON.
I THINK IT WILL DISCOURAGE ANY REALLY SERIOUS -- >> OH, NO.
I ABSOLUTELY DISAGREE WITH THAT.
THERE IS A LOT OF COMPETITION, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO RUN.
JONES CLEARED THE PLAYING FIELD AND/OR AFRICAN AMERICAN CANDIDATES AND THAT SHE WILL THROW HER SUPPORT BEHIND GREEN -- THIS WAS DUE TO REED'S RESIGNATION.
THAT ALLOWED MEGAN TO GET THE VOTES AND SHE HAD RUN TWO TIMES AND THAT HELPS THE NAME RECOGNITION AND A HUGE ADVANTAGE OVER JACK.
THERE IS A CANDIDATE THAT COULD BEAT HER, BRING NORTH CITY VOTERS WITH THE OLD SOUTHWEST PROCOP FACTION IN SOUTH CITY.
THAT'S THE LOUIS REED GROUP.
>> WHO -- [ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> I DIDN'T THINK SHE WILL HAVE A POST.
>> THERE GOING TO BE VERY SMART PEOPLE THINKING VERY HARD HOW TO FIND THAT CANDIDATE.
EVERY PERSON WHO VOTED FOR GREEN, PEOPLE DON'T LIKE HER AS WELL.
>> LOOKING AT THIS ONE, TOO, THERE IS THE BENEFIT OF VLOG PEOPLE COMING OUT FOR BIGGER ELECTIONS.
THE CITY RACES GET LOST IN THE MARCH ON THE ODD YEAR THERE'S NO SENATE RACE GOING ON.
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT TAKES PEOPLE TO THE POLLS OTHER THAN THE CITY RACES.
LOOK FOR YOUR TURN-OUT TO GO DOWN.
I'M NOT SAYING SHE IS ADJUSTAB VULNERABLE.
IT WILL MOUNT A GOOD CAMPAIGN.
>> PROBABLY A CONSERVATIVE CAMPAIGN.
>> JACK IS A CONSERVATIVE.
>> THERE ARE SOUTH SIDE POLITICIANS.
ALL IAM SAYING I DON'T THINK JACK WOULD HAVE -- I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HIM -- I CAN'T IMAGINE HE WILL WANT TO RUN AGAIN.
MAYBE HE WILL.
THE 10 PERCENT MARGIN IS SIGNIFICANT.
>> IT DEPENDS WHAT SHE DOES.
>> I'M NOT SAYING SHE CAN'T RUN.
>> IT MAY BE NOT A 2-CANDIDATE RACE.
SOMEBODY COULD GET THE BLACK VOTES WITH A ONE-ON-ONE WHITE CANDIDATE.
THERE IS A LOT HAPPENING.
>> THERE IS NEVER A LACK OF POLITICIANS SAYING I'M THE PERSON THAT COULD WIN THAT RACE.
>> FAIR ENOUGH.
>> THIS IS THE LAST -- AND TRIED TO RUN THE CAMPAIGN THOSE VOTES ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE.
>> THEY ARE NOT THERE, OKAY, YEAH, FRANCIS, 16 YEARS -- 20 YEARS, DURING THAT 20 YEARS, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CITY?
OKAY.
EVERYONE WANTS TO BE MAD AT MEGAN GREEN AND ACTUALLY THEY WILL BEEN IN OFFICE FOR NOT 25 PERCENT OF THE TIME LIKE THE OTHER PEOPLE WERE.
OKAY.
GIVE HER A CHANCE.
>> IT IS A GOOD TIME TO BE IN THAT POSITION.
YOU HAVE THE ARPA MONEY AND THE KROENKE CASH.
WE'LL BE TIED TO THE PERSON IN THE OFFICE FOR 4 OR 5 YEARS.
>> HAVE YOU A MAYOR THAT IS SUPERIOR TO THE OTHERS.
>> THAT'S A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.
>> AND THESE OTHERS WERE NOT.
I MEAN THAT IN A POSITIVE WAY.
>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT JANA ELEMENTARY, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS SAID THAT EVEN THOUGH LAWYERS OUT OF MASSACHUSETTS FOUND RADIATION WAY TO HIGH IN A REPORT RELEASED LAST MONTH, THEY SAID THERE'S NO RADIATION LEVEL 53 AREAS AND SEVERAL HUNDRED AREAS.
IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN WHAT IS IN NATURAL MOTHER NATURE.
>> IT IS GOOD NEWS.
IT MAKES ME WONDERING WHY PEOPLE HAVE SORT OF TRUST OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
I DON'T CARE WHO IS IN CHARGE, REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS.
IT MAKES SENSE.
ALL I NEED TO SEE ARE THE NUMBERS AND GUESS WHAT THEY DIDN'T BRING TO THE MEETING?
THE NUMBERS.
IF THAT'S WHAT THE NUMBERS SAY, THEN SHOW ME THE NUMBERS.
IT IS REAL SIMPLE.
YOU LAY IT OUT AND TAKE THE NUMBERS AND HAVE AN INTELLIGENT REASONED LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON HERE AND FIGURE IT OUT ALL.
WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, WE ARE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, JUST TAKE OUR WORD FOR IT.
SHOW ME THE PAPERWORK AND I'M WILLING TO COMMENT.
THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THE HASELWOOD DISTRICT DESERVE.
THEY DESERVE THE NUMBERS.
NOT JUST TRUST US.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE KIDS AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WHAT ARE THEY?
>> MAYBE THEY WILL COME OUT WITH THE NUMBERS JANUARY 16, MAYBE, THAT'S THE NEXT MEETING.
FOR OUR PURPOSES, AS EXTRAORDINARY AS IT SOUNDS THEIR REPORTS COMPLETELY CONTRADICTS THE REPORT HIRED BY THE PLAINTIFF'S LAWYERS.
>> THE EXPERT OUGHT TO PUT THAT ON THEIR RESUME.
THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED TO THE CREDIT OF THE HAZELWOOD SCHOOL DISTRICT SAYING WE DON'T TRUST YOU.
DAWN CHAPMAN AND THE OTHER HEROS WHO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FIGHT HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS.
I HAVE BEEN COVERING THIS FOR OVER A DECADE.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, FOR REASONS I CAN'T EXPLAIN, IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE GOVERNMENT, THEY HAD BEEN TRAGICALLY, PEOPLE ARE DIEING, DIEING OF CANCERS.
I CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY.
THERE HAVE BEEN OUTRAGEOUS, OUTRAGEOUS CONSEQUENCES AND THEY SAY THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
>> I'M NOT EXCUSING THEM.
WE MESSED IT UP.
INDOOR ACCOUNTING WE WILL BUILD A NEW SCHOOL HERE AND BEFORE THE SUN CAME UP THE NEXT DAY THERE IS 500 LOWER.
BECAUSE THE TRAIN CAME THROUGH AND EVERYONE WANTS PAID BACK.
THE PLACES WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR AND THEY ARE >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU SOUND LIKE THE GUYS WHO WERE CRITICAL OF THE CDC DURING THE PANDEMIC.
YOU PAINT IT WITH A BROAD BRUSH.
>> [ALL TALKING AT ONCE].
>> ALL I'M SAYING -- >> OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED THE NUMBERS AND MAYBE A THIRD STUDY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
>> NO.
WHAT WE NEED IS TO CLEAN UP THE WASTE.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
>> THERE IS NO WASTE TO CLEAN UP AT THE JANA ELEMENTARY.
THAT'S THE ISSUE.
SHOULD THAT SCHOOL BE OPENED OR CLOSED?
>> I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHOSE FAULT IT IS THAT THE WASTE IS THERE.
IF YOU TAKE THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN GOING TO FUNERALS WAY TOO OFTEN IN NORTH COUNTY WHERE PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING FROM BIZARRE DISEASES THROUGHOUT THE PERIOD, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING, THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
2 ARMY CORPS THE ARMY CORPS TOO.
PEOPLE ARE DIEING AROUND THEM AND NOW YOU FINALLY DON'T TRUST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
DON'T TRUST THEM!
>> IF ANYONE WOULD SEND THEIR KID THERE?
>> THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
>> NO!
NO!
>> WOULD YOU SEND YOUR KIDS THERE?
>> NO!
>> I WOULD SAY THE THIRD STUDY IS NEEDED.
LET'S SEE THE SECOND STUDY.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> PUT THE PAPER ON THE TABLE.
>> LET'S DO A STUDY OF THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SPORTS AUTHORITY WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MISINTERPRETED BY THE MEDIA.
>> MAYBE.
>> THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT KROENKE CASH, THAT SHOULD BE 520, 530 MILLION DOLLARS THAT SHOULD BE PUT INTO AN ENDOWMENT.
SO WE CAN USE IT.
>> IT WAS MISINTERPRETED IN THE NEWSPAPER BUSINESS.
SOMEONE.
SOMEBODY.
>> IT WAS ME.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> NO, I'M KIDDING.
I WILL SAY THIS; I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS THE PAPER'S FAULT.
IT IS EASY TO COME AWAY FROM THIS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS TO USE THE FOOTBALL EXPRESSION AND TO BASICALLY, HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE, WHAT THEY WERE SAYING WHICH I THINK IS SMART, LET'S NOT DIVIDE THIS UP THREE WAYS, LET'S DO THIS AS A COMMUNITY.
I THINK THEY ARE RIGHT.
>> I DON'T -- I JUST -- I DON'T.
THE MONEY IS COMING.
GET YOUR CUT AND DO WITH IT WHAT THEY WANT.
IF THEY WANT TO PUT IT IN THE BANK, THEN DO THAT AND RSA IS LIKE MY CAT, HE IS INDEPENDENT AND HE LIKES TO GET SCRATCHED ON THE HEAD EVERY NOW AND THEN.
LET'S STAND UP ON THIS ONE.
>> I'M NOT STANDING UP FOR GS L INC. >> LET'S SPLIT IT THREE WAYS AND GET ON WITH OUR LIVES.
>> IT SHOULD BE DONE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
>> BY THE WAY -- >> AND NUTS -- >> WE LOST A GREAT MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, 1960'S, AND MARTIN MATHEWS.
HE STARTED AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS DOING GOD'S WORK HERE ON EARTH.
>> HE WAS AN AMAZING MAN, HE WAS ON MY RADIO SHOW AND 95 YEARS OLD AND SHARP AS A TACK.
HE WAS DOING IT VOLUNTEER WORK AND WORKED AT NIGHT FOR A SECURITY GUARD.
AT ONE POINT, PEOPLE SAW HIM IN THE NEWSPAPER AND HE RECEIVED AN AWARD AND THE PEOPLE AT HIS EMPLOYER SAYS, OH, THAT'S OUR SECURITY GUY.
>> IT GOES BACK A LONG WAY AND I PLAYED JUNIOR FOOTBALL, GOING INTO THE MID TO LATE 60'S.
HE DIDN'T DEMAND, HE ASKED.
HE SAID IF WE COME AND PLAY WILL YOU DO A HOME AND HOME.
WE PLAYED IN THE CITY.
BECAUSE HE WAS ABLE TO GET THE JOB.
>> THERE'S A PHOTO OF THE LATE, GREAT MARTIN MATHEWS.
ABSOLUTELY.
>> SPEAKING OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN MAYBE NOTICE ON OUR SET, A NEW PHOTO.
PHOTOS BY STEVE SPRINGMEYER.
AND OCTOBER'S ARTIST, KEN.
STEVE HAS LOANED HIS ARTWORK FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.
WE THANK YOU, STEVE.
WE WILL ENJOY IT.
>> THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR THIS WE WEEK'S EDITION.
>> WE'LL TALK TO JOHN, FORMER SENATOR FROM ST. CHARLES COUNTY AND KEN FROM ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY.
THAT'S NEXT UP.
WE'LL CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION ON WHAT HAPPENED ON TUESDAY.
WE'LL PEPPER THOSE WITH THE QUESTIONS.
>> THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION.
DON'T TOUCH THAT DIAL.
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