Donnybrook
Donnybrook: October 13, 2022
Season 2022 Episode 73 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Jacob Kirn, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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Donnybrook: October 13, 2022
Season 2022 Episode 73 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Jacob Kirn, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>>>ANNOUNCER: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF 9 PBS.
>>> HEY, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
A PROGRAMMING NOTE; DR. SAM PAGE, COUNTY EXECUTIVE, WILL RUN FOR REELECTION, HE WILL JOIN US NEXT ON NEXT UP.
>>> BEFORE WE GET TO THE HOT TOPICS.
WENDY WIESE HALF OF THE JENNIFER AND WENDY SHOW ON THE BIG 5050.
>> JOINING US FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE ARE HAPPY ABOUT THAT, JACOB IS SITTING IN FOR BILL MCCLELLAN.
HE IS THE MANAGING EDITOR OF THE BUSINESS JOURNAL.
>> AND RAY HARTMAN, THE RIVER FRONT TIMES AND ST. LOUIS IN THE KNOW ON KTRC.
AND WHEN WHERE HE EDITS THE NEWS, ALVIN REID.
>> WE WILL START WITH YOU, ALVIN, AGAIN, ST. LOUIS HAS HAD RANKING OF BEING THE LEAST SAFE CITY IN THE NATION.
>> JOE HOLLEMAN HAD A STORY ON THIS AND THE SOURCE WAS WALLET HUB.
I'M SURE THE NEWSPAPERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE SAYING THE ST. LOUIS IS THE LEAST SAFE CITY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> FIRST OF ALL, HE DOESN'T CALL US MR.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
>> TEACHER'S PET.
>> [LAUGHTER.]
>> GOOD CATCH.
>> JOE HAD AN INTERESTING ARTICLE AND A LENGTHILY LEAD-IN SAYING WALLET, HUB, SOME GOOD, SOME BAD.
BEING AN EDITOR OF A PAPER, AND YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF STUDIES FROM DIFFERENT PLACES AND WE GET A LOT FROM WALLET HUB.
SOME OF THEM I TAKE WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.
MAYBE THIS ONE TOO.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE VISIT MORE PORN SITES THAN OTHER CITIES OR STATES DO.
IT SAYS A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT A LOT OF CITY SAYING THAT IT IS POSITIVELY TRUE.
I THINK THERE ARE THINGS MISSING FROM THE STUDY, NOT MAYBE TO REFUTE, MAYBE MAYBE MAKES YOU THINK TWICE.
ST. LOUIS HAS A MURDER PROBLEM.
I AM NOT, LIKE, WALLET HUB SAYS THIS OR THAT.
>> IT IS LIKE THIS, DRIP, DRIP, DRIP, THE WATER TORTURE THAT WE GET SINCE FERGUSON, SPEAKING OF EDITORS, WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING OUT OF MISSOURI, OUT OF ST. LOUIS, IT SETS OFF SOME SORT OF BELL, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS NEGATIVE.
WE HAVE A WELL-EARNED REPRESE REPRESENTATI REPRESENT REPRESEUTATION AS A VIOLENT CITY -- WELL, PEOPLE HERE DOESN'T FEEL SAFE.
THE PEOPLE WHO VISIT DO.
>> HE IS NOT THAT -- [LAUGHTER.]
>> JOE IS BETTER WHEN HE IS WRITING.
I THOUGHT HE DID A NICE JOB WITH IT.
THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS PERCEPTION AND REALITY.
I THINK THIS IS CLICK BAIT.
IF THEY ARE SOURCED OKAY, THEY PUT THEM INTO A HOPPER.
>> WE HEAR KANSAS, ACCORDING TO HIS STORY, WAS LIKE, 161.
I WILL SAY, THAT I DON'T PARTICULARLY CARE FOR THEM, BUT I THINK THE STORY GAVE HIM SOME CONTEXT.
AND I THINK WHATEVER ANY OF THINKS, THEY REENFORCE THIS NARRATIVE.
>> EVEN IF YOU ARE AT 145, WHATEVER KANSAS CITY, THERE IS A BOTTOM AND NO ABOVE.
THE ABSOLUTE BOTTOM GETS THE HEADLINE.
>> RIGHT.
>> THE OTHER PROBLEM IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, IT IS GEOGRAPHY AND THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS AND THE POPULATION.
YOU ARE TALKING THE POPULATION AND DIVIDING IT BY THE HOMICIDES AND DIVIDING BY THE ROBBERIES AND IT DOESN'T COME OUT FAVORABLY.
WHAT THEY NEED TO GRAPPLE WITH, WHAT THE STUDY SHOWS YOU, SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.
I THINK.
>> YOU HAVE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF HOMICIDES.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE.
IF IT CAME OUT OF THE JOHN J CRIMINOLOGY OR JOHN HOPKIN'S.
I WOULD FEEL MORE.
NEXT WEEK IT IS THE BEST PLACE TO HAVE A FIRST DATE.
THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THEIR NAME ON DONNYBROOK.
IT IS SUCCEEDING.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> IT IS THEIR PRIORITY.
>> THE BOSTON GLOBE HAS THIS SERIES ON HOW BAD THE HOMICIDES ARE IN BOSTON.
ONE COLUMNISTS SAYS ONE IS TOO MANY.
154 HERE.
AND BOSTON WITH TWICE THE POPULATION HAS 28.
I THINK SHE IS MAKING A POINT.
I THINK WE HAVE RESIGNED OURSELVES TO HOMICIDE.
>> THIS IDENTITY.
>> A LITTLE BIT.
THEY HAVE 28 AND WE ARE OUT-RAGED.
IT IS NOT FRONT PAGE.
>> WE ARE SLEEPWALKING.
>> THAT'S ALL WE TALK ABOUT.
>> NO -- >> I DON'T REMEMBER ANYBODY SAYING -- FIRST OF ALL, ANY ANYIANY CITY SAYING WE HAVE GOOD HOMICIDE RATES.
>> ONE SAYS THAT.
>> NO.
I THINK IT IS AN OVER-RATED STATISTIC.
>> JAB JACOB, BY THE WAY, THERE IS A COLUMN BY JOHN, HE DESCRIBED HOW HE LOST HIS HOME, IT VANISHED IN FORT MYERS, FLORIDA.
OUR VIEWERS WILL WANT TO READ THAT.
AND OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH HIS FAMILY.
THANKFULLY THEY ARE OKAY.
>> LET ME TALK ABOUT STATS WITH PEDESTRIAN DEATHS.
IN OUR AREA, INCLUDING ALL OF THE COUNTIES, 38 SO FAR THIS YEAR.
AND IN 48 HOUR PERIOD, 48 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LOVES.
13 IN THE CITY, 2 BICYCLISTS AND 2 PEDESTRIANS.
WHAT SHOULD BE DONE HERE?
>> I KNOW THE MAYOR WANTS TO SPEND 41 MILES PER HOUR TO PUT IN BIKE LANES, AND THE EXTENDED THE SIDEWALKS.
I DON'T THINK IT IS NEARLY ENOUGH.
I ACTUALLY DON'T.
BECAUSE, THERE ARE THESE MASSIVE BOULEVARDS IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, TUCKER, JEFFERSON, MARKET, YOU DON'T NEED THESE MASSIVE THINGS.
THE POPULATION IS NOT THERE.
THE TRAFFIC IS NOT THERE TO SUPPORT SUPPORT THAT.
I WOULD PLOW MORE MONEY AND MAKE YOURSELF THE WALKABLE PLACE, THE PEDESTRIAN PLACE THAT HAS THIS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT IS REALLY SHOCKING I LIVE IN THE CITY AND I WON'T RIDE MY BIKE ON THE ROAD.
IT IS TERRIFYING.
EVERY DAY I SEE REALLY OUT OF CONTROL DRIVING.
WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT ONLY BLOWING THROUGH LIGHTS AND SPINNING AROUND IN INTERSECTIONS.
IT IS CRAZY STUFF.
IT IS RIDICULOUS.
>> I DON'T KNOW -- [INDISCERNIBLE].
I AM THERE ON MARKET WHERE THE OFFICE IS.
I HEAR YOU.
I WILL SAY THAT THE TWO BIGGEST REASONS WHY THAT WON'T HAPPEN IS THE BLUES AND THE CARDINALS TO DELAY SOMEONE WHO HAS COME TO THE CITY TO GO TO THE HOCKEY GAME OR BASEBALL ON TUCKER OR MARKET STREET.
THEY WOULD BE AGAINST THAT.
SO, WHERE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THIS 40 MILLION DOLLARS?
IT IS WHERE PEOPLE ALREADY RIDE BIKES?
IT IS TRYING TO HONESTLY CREATE SAFETY THROUGHOUT THE CITY?
>> I DON'T -- >> WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, I GET.
IT WILL BEAUTIFY WHERE PEOPLE ALREADY RIDE THEIR BIKES SAFELY.
>> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DESIGN A CITY WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN IT.
YOU DON'T DESIGN THE CITY WHO COME IN FROM OTHER AREAS.
YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE.
>> IT IS NICE TO HAVE A MORE NARROW TUCKER.
THE DRIVERS HAVE TO BE PULLED OVER.
THEY PUT ORANGE FLAGS IN SALT LAKE CITY.
YOU HOLD THE ORANGE FLAG IS AND HOLD IT UP SO THE CAR CAN SEE YOU.
AND I SEE A VIDEO FROM KANSAS CITY, THEY ARE USING THE MONEY FROM ART TO ASPHALT.
THEY PAINT INTERSECTIONS TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.
YOU DON'T NEED 40 MILLION DOLLARS.
I THINK MICHAEL BLOOMBERG WOULD GIVE US THE MONEY.
>> -- ON THE WAY TO PICK ADILL, THE CONCRETE -- >> MEDIANS.
>> THIS WAS LIKE A CORNER OF MANCHESTER, THERE WAS A SKATEBOARDER AND HE WAS DOING SOMETHING GYMNASTICS ON THE SKATEBOARD.
I WONDERED IF HE WAS UNDER THE INFLUENCE OR TRYING TO COMMIT SUICIDE BY GOING OUT IN TRAFFIC.
THEY POINTED THAT OUT.
THE PEDESTRIANS QUITE FREQUENTLY AS GONE AS SOME OF THE DRIVERS ARE APART OF THIS.
WE DON'T THINK OF THAT.
THIS WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
>> YOU ARE NOT TAKING AWAY MY SKATEBOARD FREEDOM.
[LAUGHTER.]
>>.
>>> NARROWING -- >> AS RUDE AS THE PEOPLE ON THE EAST ARE, THE ONLY TIME THE EAST COAST PEOPLE ARE NICE ARE AT CROSS-WALKS.
>> I WOULDN'T PUT UP WITH THAT MESS.
>> JACOB HAS A GOOD POINT.
THE TUCKER SITUATION, WHICH WOULD RUN INTO POLITICAL DIFFERENCES.
THERE HAS TO BE A SENSE OF THIS WAS A CITY THAT WAS STRUCTURALLY BUILT FOR 850 THOUSAND PEOPLE.
>> TRUE.
>> IT IS SMART THINKING THAT WE HAVE TO AT LEAST IN SOME PLACES, MAYBE NOT TUCKER, RETHINK IT.
IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
>> IT IS A GREENWAY?
>> I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE.
>> WENDY WIESE, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A STORY THAT WAS DISGUSTING, THAT MICE AND COCKROACHES GOT INTO THE SHELTER.
THEY THROUGH OUT 20 THOUSAND -- THROUGHOUT 20 THOUSAND POUNDS OF THE RECORDS.
THEY HAD RABIES, VACCINATION INFORMATION.
AND MAYBE FOR THE COUNTY IT WAS INFORMATION THAT LAWYERS SUING THE CITY WANTED TO SEE FOR THEIR LAWSUITS, ACTUALLY THEY WERE SUING THE COUNTY.
THE LAWYERS WANTED THE INFORMATION, THE COUNTY THREW IT OUT.
DON'T YOU THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE HELD ON TO THOSE RECORDS?
>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE ATTORNEY WHO WAS QUOTED ABOUT THE LITIGATION AND HOW THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED.
I SAY YOU HAVE TO THROW IT AWAY IMMEDIATELY.
WHEN I THINK OF THAT INFESTATION, 400 BOXES, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> 250.
>> OKAY.
THAT TO ME IS NOT A QUESTION.
I'M SORRY ABOUT THE LITIGATION, AND I'M SORRY ABOUT ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ENDED UP WITH IN LANDFILL WITH IT.
YOU CAN'T MESS AROUND WITH THAT.
THAT IS A SOURCE OF DISEASE.
>> THEY HAVE BEEN MESSING AROUND WITH IT MORE DECADES.
THESE RECORDS PREDATED THE BUILDING WHEN WAS 20 YEARS OLD OR SOMETHING.
>> SOMEBODY IS NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
>> IT IS CERTAINLY THE NEW PEOPLE, THERE'S A NEW DIRECTOR THERE.
I DO THINK YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
WHAT IS AMAZING ABOUT THIS IDEA -- I DON'T HAVE MUCH COMMON SENSE -- THE IDEA THAT YOU STORE THE RECORDS IN CARDBOARD BOXES FOR DECADES.
>> RIGHT?
MICE?
>> IN PARTICULAR AT AN ANIMAL SHELTER.
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES; YOU CAN'T BLAME THE CURRENT HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR THE INFESTATION PROBLEM WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON FOREVER.
>> WHICH MAKES IT EVEN WORSE.
>> AS FAR AS SPECIFIC RECORDS, IF THEY -- >> THERE'S A PROCEDURE.
>> CREATURES LIVING IN -- >> CHARLIE -- >> YOU HAVE TO GET THE PERMISSION FROM THE COUNTY COUNCIL.
>> I TALKED TO AN INFESTATION PROFESSIONAL AND HE SAYS THE PLACE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FUMIGATED.
>> AND THE SAME ATTORNEYS WOULD BE SUING THEM BECAUSE THEY GOT BLACK LUNG.
>> THE PLAGUE.
>> THE BOXES AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE THE SUPERVISORS HAD TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, THE LEGALITY SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
THERE WAS TIME TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
I MEAN, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE AN EMERGENCY THING.
>> FOR AN ANALYSIS GUY.
>> IT IS FIFLTH.
>> I THINK THIS WAS GUEST OF THE EPA WAS COMING IN SAYING YOU HAVE A PROBLEM HERE.
I GET THAT.
I DON'T THINK IT IS NECESSARILY AN INDICTMENT OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
>> IT IS AN INDICTMENT OF SOMEBODY.
>> YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
>> I WOULD BE SO GROSSED OUT, THE LAW IS THE LAST THING I WOULD BE THINKING OF.
>> ENOUGH INFESTATION TALK.
MOVING ON.
>>> I WANT TO ASK YOU, THE PAPER HAS BEEN ALL OVER DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT.
LOOKING AT WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHAT IS NOT GOING ON.
A DEVELOPER WALKED AWAY FROM THE LARGEST OFFICE BUILDING IN AMERICA BEFORE THE PENTAGON WAS BUILT.
THE RAILWAY EXCHANGE.
IT IS EMPTY, AND MARKET, MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET, AND JEFFERSON ARMS THE MILLENNIAL HOTEL.
IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE NOT GETTING OFF THE DIME.
>> THERE IS -- AND THE REPORTER, GLORIA LLOYD, HAS BEEN ON TOP OF CARNEGIE WHICH IS A DEVELOPER OUT OF NEW YORK.
AND THEY SAID THE COMPETITION OF REDEVELOPING AT&T TOWER IS A REASON TO WALK AWAY.
I DON'T THINK WENDY THINKS THAT IS LEGITIMATE.
THE NEW OWNER OF AT&T BUILDING, WHICH IS SOMERA SOMERAROAD DISCUSSED WITH SELLING THE PEOPLE.
WHICH THEY SAY THEY MAY NOT BE THE REDEVELOPER THAT WILL MAKE IT INTO RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
>> THAT'S WHAT THESE PEOPLE DO.
>> THEY HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST.
>> OKAY.
THAT'S THEIR THING.
IT REMINDS ME OF MY OLD THEORY HOW ST. LOUIS WAS AN OUT-POST FOR SALES MEN.
WE BOUGHT THE -- PITTSBURGH THREE TIMES.
>> JOHN -- >> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> HERE'S A COMPANY FROM NEW YORK THAT COMES IN AND BUYS, YOU KNOW, HISTORIC WHITE ELEPHANT, THE AT&T, WHICH IS NEVER GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND THEY ARE GOING TO GET TAXCREDITO CREDITS, WHICH WILL COME AT THE EXPENSE, AND -- AND SOMEHOW BECAUSE OF THE TAX CREDITS, WHATEVER RENOVATION RENOVATIONS ARE NOT COMPENSA EXPENSIVE.
WHERE IS THE ST. LOUIS MONEY?
WHY IT IS THE NEW YORK GUYS COMING IN AND DOING THESE DEALS?
IT IS QUESTIONABLE.
>> CAN YOU START AT A BALANCE OF ZERO ON THESE PROPERTIES AND PUT OUT THERE THAT, OKAY, ALL RIGHT, THE EXCHANGE BUILDING.
IT IS AN HISTORIC BUILDING.
AND T W A BUILDING, AND CAN'T YOU SAY, ALL RIGHT, LOOK, DEVELOP NATIONWIDE, TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT AND TELL ME WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
YOU CAN HAVE TO DARN THING.
YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
AND WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
>> ARE WE STILL ACTING AS THOUGH WE ARE THE PROM QUEEN OF THE '80S?
WE ARE NOT.
THAT SHIP HAS SAILED.
>> THIS IS A FREE BUILDING.
>> IT IS NOT THE ISSUE.
THEY ARE ALL FREE NOW.
>> THE AT&T BUILDING.
>> AND CONVERTED IS HUGE COMPARED TO THE MARKET.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT SITUATION?
BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE?
IF YOU COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE, TEAR IT DOWN.
>> HOW DO YOU TEAR IT DOWN?
>> IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MACRO-LEVEL, MAKE IT WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE AND YOU WON'T HAVE THE DEVELOPERS SAYING THE DEMAND IS NOT THERE.
>> EVERY WORKER WANTS TO WORK FROM HOME.
>> THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY TRUE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE STIR CRAZY AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS AT HOME.
I THINK THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL MARKET THAT IS HOT.
I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT.
YOU LOOK AT BALLPARK VILLAGE.
I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY FOLKS WHEN I WAS IN THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT CORRTRECHS CORRTECHS.
THE DEMAND IS THERE, WHY ARE WE DOING RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE AT&T BUILDING, THERE IS NOT ANY BECOME IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE FOR AN OUTDATED, RUN DOWN BUILDING THAT HAS NO PARKING IN IT, WHEN IS A NO-NO TODAY.
NO ONE HAS A CLUE WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
IT IS NOT HISTORIC.
>> TIME IS LIMITED.
SWITCHING TOPICS.
>>> KANYE WEST.
HE IS AN ACTOR?
A STAR?
>> HE -- >> HE AND MADE ANTI-SEMITIC COMMENTS.
BEFORE HE MADE THOSE COMMENTS, ERIC SCHMIDT SAID HEYZEL OBANA HEY, LET'S GET SOMETHING.
AND HE SAID DECON TO ALL THE JEWS.
>> HE SAID DFCON TO JEWS.
HE MADE A SERIES OF ANTI-SEMITIC REMARKS AND SAYING IF I'M BLACK, I CAN'T BE ANTI-SEMITIC.
IT IS CLEARLY -- >> TIME IS LIMITED.
>> OKAY.
>> I BELIEVE THAT ERIC SCHMIDT IN KEEP WITH THE MAG MAGA CULTURE WAR OR ON TWITTER, HE SAID, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS BRING KID ROCK, AND A TOUR WITH KID RING AND -- >> KANYE.
>> THE TELL IN THE WHOLE STORY, AND THINK TRUDY BUSH CALLED HIM OUT.
WHEN SCHMIDT SAYS I DIDN'T DO IT.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
I LIKE HIS MUSIC.
WHERE, IF YOU -- LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY, IF YOU BELIEVE HE LIKES HIS MUSIC.
>> HE IS FEEDING INTO THE TALKING POINTS.
THE WHOLE CULTURE WAR.
HE DIDN'T CONDEMN IT.
THERE'S NO UP SIDE I'M NOT SAYING SCHMIDT IS ANTI-SEMITIC.
THERE'S NO UPSIDE FOR HIM POLITICALLY TO CALL OUT ANTI-SEMITIC.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT MAGA IS ANTI-SEMITIC.
>> THIS HAS SOME ANTI-SEMITIC.
>> THERE ARE MANY THINGS.
>> AND RACISM.
>> KANYE IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
>> IF BUSH ASKED HER OPPONENT TO DENOUNCE THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD, HE WOULDN'T DO IT.
>> I BELIEVE THAT.
I WOULDN'T GIVE HIM A PASS ON THIS.
RAY IS RIGHT.
HE SHOULD APOLOGIZE.
>> I DON'T AGREE WITH SCHMIDT ON A LOT OF THINGS AND HE HAS ACTED POORLY IN A LOT OF WAYS.
I NEVER GOT THE THOUGHT THAT HE WOULD DECRY ANTI-SEMITIC COMMENTS.
>> THE ISSUE FOR TRUDY, THERE'S NO WAY TO PROVE WHAT ERIC KNEW AND WHEN.
>> ESPECIALLY ON TWITTER.
CORRECT?
>> I DON'T THINK IN TODAY'S POLITICS.
TRUDY IS PROBABLY FAR BEHIND.
>> LET'S SAY THIS IS A CLOSE RACE, THIS IS THE KIND OF STORY THAT BECAUSE IT IS IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA WORLD AND IN THE CULTURE WAR WORLD, IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT.
>> YOU HAVE THIS ONCE REMOVED SITUATION.
IT IS NOT HIS QUOTE, IT IS SOMEONE ELSE'S AND IT IS A MENTION OF HIM.
IT IS TOO COMPLICATED TO TAKE AHOLD LIKE LIGHTNING.
IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK.
>> IN '76, WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, THERE WERE PEOPLE IN THE KLAN THAT SUPPORTED CARTER.
AND HE SAID IF YOU GAVE ME A DOLLAR I WOULD FLUSH IT DOWN THE TOILET.
HE WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO NOT AGREE WITH THE KLAN.
>> AGREED.
>> THE PACE AT WHICH THE NEWS CYCLING AND THE SOCIAL MEDIA VIRALS, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, I'M LIKE JACOB, YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT HE KNEW WHEN HE SAID LET'S GO OUT ON TOUR.
>> WHEN HE MADE UP THAT LIE ABOUT LIKING KANYE'S MUSIC -- >> OR KID ROCK.
>> I WANT HIM TO READ OFF SOME OF THE LYRICS OF KANYE.
>> THE TIME HE SPENT DOING THAT, HE COULD HAVE SAID I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMMENTS.
>> MAYBE HE WILL.
>> LET'S LOOK AT THE MAILBAG.
WHEN WILL DONNYBROOK HAVE A RESIDENT FROM ST. LOUIS.
FROM MICHELLE.
THERE HE IS.
JACOB IS HERE.
>> AND REGIONAL SOLUTIONS TO THE CITY'S PROBLEMS WHEN IT CAME TO THE PROBLEMS WITH THE JAIL.
RAY MADE A SOLUTION TO THE JAIL.
THANK YOU.
>> TALKING ABOUT REGIONALISM, NOT ONE WORD ABOUT METRO EAST.
>> YOU CAN WRITE US, ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI, DON'T FORGET THE E-MAILS, DONNYBROOK AT 9 PBS.ORG, AND HASH TAG DONNYBROOK ST L. 512-9094.
AND LISTEN ON GOOGLE PLAY, TUNE IN, SPOTIFY.
>> THANKS TO JACOB.
>> ALVIN AND I WILL TALK TO DR. SAM PAGE WHO IS SEEKING REELECTION FOR THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
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