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>>> HEY, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR IN EDITION.

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LOTS TO TALK ABOUT AND A GREAT GUEST FOR NEXT UP.

WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN A FEW MINUTES.

>>> WE'LL MEET THE PANELISTS.

WENDY WIESE FROM KTRS.

AND BILL MCCLELLAN FROM THE DISPATCH AND RAY, AND THE RIVER FRONT TIMES AND THE ST. LOUIS ALVIN REID.

>> BILL AND WENDY WILL TALK TO STEVE, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE.

>> THAT BRINGS US TO THE FIRST TOPIC.

HE IS IN A DISAGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.

YOU HAD HIM ON THE PROGRAM ON YOUR PROGRAM.

HE WROTE ABOUT THE PLAN WHICH HE WROTE IN THE JOURNAL TO HAVE ONE PROSECUTOR IN ST. LOUIS AND DIDN'T MENTION ST. CHARLES AND HE SUGGESTED THE HIGHWAY PATROL BE ABLE TO WORK INSIDE THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WITHOUT AN INVITATION FROM THE POLICE CHIEF WHICH IS THE REGULATION CURRENTLY.

AND HE WANTS -- WHAT ELSE IS HE LOOKING FOR?

A FEW OTHER MATTERS WHEN IT COMES TO THE GOVERNANCE, THE WHOLE REGISTER TO OVERSEE THE AIRPORT.

THE MAYOR SAID IN AN INTERVIEW THAT SHE'S TIRED OF BEING TALKED DOWN TO.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I THINK SHE IS RIGHT.

AND HE HAS A VOICE FOR THE REGION AND IT IS NOT OF THAT.

AND THE PROSECUTORS HAVE HAD THEIR OWN PROBLEMS WITH STALKING ALLEGATIONS, DWI'S, AND I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE OF ST. CHARLES COUNTY WOULD DISPUTE THAT AND IF THEY SHOULD MERGE WITH SAINT JEFFERSON OR THE OTHER COUNTIES.

TO FIX THINGS UP.

IT IS A PATRONIZING KIND OF ATTITUDE.

IT IS HARD TO HAVE THE TYPE OF PERSON JUDGING ANYONE ON ANYTHING.

WE OUGHT -- WHERE THE CARDINALS GOING INTO THE PLAYOFFS, WE ARE ALL COMING TOGETHER AS A REGION.

MAYBE WE SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER A LITTLE BIT MORE AND RESPECT EACH OTHER'S BOUNDARIES.

>> I THINK HE WAS OFF BASE.

GIVING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BACK TO THE STATE.

>> CORRECT, BILL.

THANK YOU.

>> WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO IS DEACTIVATE KIM GARDNER.

IT IS THE SAME THING WHEN -- WANTED TO TAKE OVER THE CASES.

THE TENURE HAS NOT BEEN A SUCCESSFUL ONE.

BUT SHE IS AN ELECTED PROSECUTOR.

IF WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE LAWS IF THERE IS ONLY ONE PROSECUTOR WITH THE HOPE OF THAT CITIZENS WON'T ELECT KIM GARDNER.

>> LET'S MAKE THE DISTINCTION THAT TIM LOMARS IS OF A PERSONAL NATURE.

KIM GARDNER'S ISSUES IS OF A PERSONAL ISSUE.

>> IT IS A JUDGMENT CALL.

>> IT IS WORSE.

>> YOU ARE A PROSECUTOR CHARGED WITH THE CRIME, OR YOU ARE A PROSECUTOR AND I DON'T LIKE HOW YOU DO YOUR JOB.

IT IS DIFFERENT TO ME, IF THEY ALLEGEDLY DID DO THIS.

IF I WAS A MAYOR OF KIRK WOOD AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT?

I HAVE PLANS BUT THEY ARE FOR THE 87 MUNICIPALITIES.

NOT MINE.

THEN WHY DID YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH?

>> THIS IS A TRICK THAT PEOPLE PLAY WHEN THEY ARE POLITICIANS.

I LIKE STEVE.

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT HE IS PULLING A KOREY BUSH.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU ARE ON THE RAY HEART -- HARTMAN SHOW.

>> THAT LEADS ME TO SAY WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?

>> -- >> THE SECOND TUESDAY OF NOVEMBER.

>> BEYOND ST. CHARLES IS IN YOUR PAIL, KIND OF?

>> SOMEONE HAS TO DEFEND THIS GUY.

I WILL DO THAT TO THIS EXTENT.

HE IS RIGHT THAT CRIME IN THE CITY IS AN ISSUE THAT PLAGUES THE ENTIRE REGION.

IT PREVENTS BUSINESSES FROM MANY COMING HERE, PEOPLE FROM MOVING HERE AND RAISING FAMILIES HERE.

>> WE TAKE THE HOMICIDES AND -- IT EXCEEDS THE NUMBER OF HOMICIDES ALL OF LAST YEAR CHLD.

>> -- >> EXCUSE ME, THAN NASHVILLE AND -- COMBINED.

>> THE CITY IS THE HUB.

HE IS WITHIN HIS PURVIEW IN MY OPINION.

>> I'M NOT QUESTIONING HIS MOTIVATION.

>> I AM.

>> I JUST DID.

>> HE HAS MADE -- >> LET ME SAY.

>> HE MADE THE POINT ON MY SHOW.

HE WANTS TO START THE DISCUSSION.

I VERY STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH HIS CONCLUSIONS.

IT IS NOT HELPFUL FOR ONE JURISDICTION TO TAKE SHOTS AT ANOTHER.

EVEN IF HE IS TRYING TO START A REGIONAL DISCUSSION.

>> NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE AIRPORT IS A CITY ASSET.

IT IS A FACT.

>> MAYOR JONES DIDN'T DO THAT.

>> THE IDEA THAT YOU TAKE THE ONE WONDERFUL ASSET THAT THE CITY HAS -- BY THE WAY, YOU TAKE IT GENERATING 6 MILLION IN PROFIT FOR THE CITY EVERY YEAR.

FOR WHATEVER YOU THINK, GOOD,BAD, IN DIFFERENT, IT IS WORTH A BILLION DOLLARS IN-BASK BASIC NET WORTH.

>> IT IS IN DEBT.

>> IT IS UNDER-PERFORMING RIDE NOW.

THROUGH NO FAULT OF -- >> EXCUSE ME, CHARLEY.

>> IF IT WAS A BUSINESS, IT WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL.

>> ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

HAVE YOU BEEN TO OTHER AIRPORTS ACROSS THE NATION?

>> IT NEEDS A LOT OF WORK.

>> [ALL TALKING AT ONCE].

>> THEY ARE WORKING ON A PLAN TO DO IT.

>> STEVE HAS ALL OF THE GREAT IDEAS THAT WON'T COST A DIME.

DROP THAT, MAN.

>> THE DISCUSSION IS HALF PASSED THIS HOUR ON NEXT UP.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE.

BILL AND WENDY WILL DO A GREAT JOB.

>> WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO ASK?

>> WILL HE BE SO HORRIFIED THAT HE WON'T BE HERE FOR THE PLAYOFF GAME.

>> I WILL.

IT IS A GOOD QUESTION.

>> I HOPE YOU WROTE THAT QUESTION DOWN.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> I GOT IT.

>> SINCE WE MET LAST TIME, MIKE, THE JUSTICE AND THE DEAN OF THE ST. LOUIS LAW SCHOOL WROTE AN OP-ED IN YOUR PAPER.

>> IT WAS.

>> AND HE IS AGAINST AMENDMENT THREE, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA.

AND AMONG OTHER THING, THE JUDGE CAME OUT AGAINST IT THE SAME WEEK AS THE CATHOLIC BISHOPS AND OTHERS.

THERE IS OPPOSITION GROWING.

THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS AMENDMENT, AND THE RECREATIONAL LICENSES WILL GO TO A SELECT FEW.

THOSE ARE THOSE WHO HOLD THE MEDICAL LICENSES AND THE MINORITY WILL BE OUT OF THE ACTION FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS AND THE LICENSE GOES OUT BY LOTTERY.

NOT BY EXPERIENCE.

IT WILL BE BASED ON A LOTTERY?

DO YOU THINK HE IS RIGHT?

>> I WROTE ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

I MENTIONED THAT THE GOVERNOR HIJACKED MEDICAL MARIJUANA BILL BY PUTTING LYNN FRACKEL AND DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND THE UBER LOBBYIST SAID WE CAN DO THIS AND STARTED THE MISSOURI CANNIBIS ASSOCIATION.

WHEN IT CAME TIME TO AWARD LICENSES, IF YOU WERE GIVEN LICENSES TO STEVE, YOU HAD A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING A LICENSE.

IT WAS A COMPLETE MESS.

PEOPLE WHO ANSWERED THE SAME QUESTIONS THE SAME WAY GOT DIFFERENT SCORES.

IT HAPPENED IF YOU WERE ON STEVE'S TEAM, YOU OFTEN GOT A HIGHER SCORE.

IN THE COLUMN WHEN I WROTE ABOUT THE HIJACKING, I SAID THAT THE GUY WHO OF SHOULD BEEN IN CHARGE IS MIKE WOL WOLFF.

WHETHER A THE GOVERNOR DID WAS A TERRIBLE THING.

IF WE DON'T PASS THIS BILL NOW, WE HAVE TO RELY ON THE LEGISLATURE TO DO THIS.

WHEN YOU DEPEND ON THEM TO DO ANYTHING, YOU ARE TAKING A GREAT RISK.

I WILL VOTE YES, BUT RELUCTANTLY.

>> IT WILL BE DELAYED FOR YEARS.

ALL OF THAT REVENUE, IF WE DON'T PASS IT NOW, THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.

>> I AGREE.

>> I WOULD SAY THIS.

I READ THAT DIFFERENT, THE HEADLINE WAS VERY STRONG.

YOU NEVER KNEW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUANCES ARE, THE HEADLINES ARE NOT ALWAYS WRITTEN BY THE SAME PERSON.

JUST READING THE COLUMN, HE HAD TROUBLE GETTING A YES BECAUSE HE HAS RESERVATIONS THAT ARE WELL-GROUNDED IN TERMS OF THIS IS CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENT.

>> 39 PAGE,S, RIGHT?

>> THERE IS NO QUESTION, THAT IF THIS DOESN'T PASS, YOU WON'T SEE LEGAL -- [ALL TALKING AT ONCE].

>> WHY NOT JUST HAVE -- >> IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

>> -- IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS BY CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, THEN IT CAN'T BE AMENDMENTED BY THE LEGISLATOR.

AMENDMENT AMENDED BY THE CONSTITUTIONAL LEGISLATION.

>> I HEAR YOU, CHARLIE.

IT IS THE SAME WITH LEGAL GAMBLING, AND YEARS AND YEARS GO BACK.

>> -- ILLINOIS.

>> WE BUY GAS AND WE HAVE TO HAVE GAS, ALL OF THAT.

IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN CANNIBIS.

AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE SITTING AROUND SAYING WHERE IS THIS MONEY GOING?

WHO IS MAKING MONEY WHEN I GO TO THE GAS STATION?

THEY WANT TO BUY THEIR PRODUCT AND KEEP GOING.

>> [ALL TALKING AT ONCE].

>> ALVIN, LET ME FINISH.

THE WHOLE CONCERN MORE MINORITY PEOPLE IS ONE OF THOSE, LIKE, ASK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO VOTE AND THEY WILL SAY, LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT?

I WOULD RATHER LEGALIZE MARIJUANA.

I WILL TELL YOU THIS, IF YOU ASK BLACK PEOPLE, WOULD YOU RATHER DO IT THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT OR BUT THE BUSINESSES UP FOR LOTTERY?

THEY WILL SAY I WILL TAKE THE LOTTERY EVERY TIME.

I HAVE A CHANCE OF WINNING.

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

A LOT OF MINORITY BUSINESS BUSINESSMEN ARE SHUT OUT.

>> MINORITY BUSINESSES ARE SHUT OUT OF EVERY PROCESS IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI AND HAS BEEN FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT IS TRUE.

>> IT IS TRUE.

HAVE YOU HEARD OF WORLDWIDE TECHNOLOGY.

>> THE AMENDMENT IS SO IMPORTANT, PROBATION IS SO IMPORTANT LIKE IN ALCOHOL, LIKE WENDY SAID THE LOST REVENUE.

>> THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION -- >> NO, NO.

HERE'S THE QUESTION.

IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT VIOLENT CRIME, FREEING UP THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR ALL OF THE PROSECUTION -- >> THE ISSUE IS THIS CONSTITUTION -- >> YOU HAVE TO FREE UP -- >> WHAT WILL SAYS YOU, ONCE YOU PUT AN ERROR IN THE CONSTITUTION, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CORRECT IT.

>> I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR MIKE WOLFF.

WE ALL DO.

THE FIX IS IN WHEN IT COMES TO LICENSES, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HEARD THAT BEFORE?

ISN'T THAT APART -- >> IT IS A PROBLEM THOUGH, SINCE IT IS STEVE, CANNIBIS ASSOCIATION -- >> RIGHT.

>> THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE MEDICAL LICENSES HAVE -- >> [ALL TALKING AT ONCE].

>> THAT'S THE WAY IT HAS BEEN.

WE'LL DELAY THIS FOREVER.

>> I AGREE.

>> IN TWO YEARS, IF IT WERE TO BE THIS LOTTERY, OR WHATEVER, I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THE SAME PEOPLE WILL SAY, LIKE, WE CAN'T HAVE A LOTTERY BECAUSE ANYBODY MAY WIN.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THAT IS CRAZY.

>> LET'S MOVE ON.

>> CAN YOU TALK ABOUT EXPERIENCE, WHEN THE LICENSES, THEY ARE ATTACHED TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO EXPERIENCE.

>> EVERYBODY, MYSELF INCLUDED, WILL APPLY A LICENSES AND WIN IT AND SELL IT TO A MEDICAL LICENSE.

THAT'S THE WAY IT IS GOING TO WORK.

>> THE STATUS QUO IS UNACCEPTABLE.

>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A LAWSUIT IN ATTORNEY GENERAL IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI AND FIVE OTHER STATES.

THEY ARE SUING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION OVER THE FEDERAL STUDENT LOAN PROGRAM FORGIVENESS.

JOE BIDEN SAID IF YOU MAKE UP TO 250 THOUSAND DOLLARS AS A COUPLE, YOU CAN TAKE AND PELL GRANT IS 25 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

YOU CAN GET 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE.

AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID, AN ACTION LIKE THAT BY THE PRESIDENT IS ONLY OKAY DURING A TIME OF EMERGENCY.

IT IS NOT A TIME OF EMERGENCY.

BUT, THERE ARE OTHER ASPECTS ABOUT IT HE DOESN'T LIKE IT EITHER.

I THINK A COUPLE MAKING 250 THOUSAND DOLLARS DOESN'T NEED 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS FORGIVEN.

>> IT IS A RUG FOR SOME PEOPLE.

>> IT IS ABOVE THE MEDIAN INCOME IN THE COUNTRY.

>> MOBILE CALLED SCHMIDT AND SAID WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY.

HE WOULD SAY FINE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WAIT, YOU ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE IN THE ELECTION IS FOUR WEEKS AWAY, AND YOU MAY WIN AND YOU WILL BE THE SENATOR.

THIS WON'T BE FILED.

YOU WILL BE GONE.

SOCIETY IS ALWAYS ASKING FOR FAIRNESS.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE SOMETHING TO SOMEBODY WHO IS POOR, THEN SOMEBODY WHO IS RICH SHOULD GET THE SAME THING.

WHY DID THEY HAVE LOANS?

BECAUSE THEY ARE SEEKING HIGHER EDUCATION.

>> BETTERING THEMSELVES.

>> NO, LET'S SUE TO STOP THEM FROM PURSUING THEIR DREAMS, POSSIBLY.

AND TWO; WAIT A MINUTE, WE ARE SUING ON BEHALF, YOU DON'T GET 250 THOUSAND-DOLLAR PEOPLE, AND YOU DON'T GET IT IF YOU DON'T HAVE 250 DOLLARS IN YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT AND PRAY THAT YOU WILL HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO SEND YOUR KID OUT.

BLACK, WHITE, POOR, RICH, HOW ABOUT WE HELP OUT FAMILIES THAT THEIR KIDS ARE GOING THE RIGHT THING.

THEY ARE NOT CRIMINALS, THEY ARE NOT IN THE STREETS -- YOU CAN PROTEST AND GO TO COLLEGE, THE POINT IS, WHY ARE WE MAD AT THE PEOPLE DOING THE RIGHT THING?

>> LET ME ADD SOMETHING.

WELL SAID.

WE ARE NUMB ERIC SCHMIDT'S ABUSE OF HIS OFFICE AND THE ABUSE OF THE TAXPAYERS.

IT IS APPROPRIATE, AS A CANDIDATE FOR SENATE, IF ERIC SCHMIDT WANTS TO SAY IT, HE CAN.

HE CAN SAY WHATEVER HE WANTS ABOUT THE STUDENT LOAN PROGRAM.

THE IDEA THAT MISSOURI TAXPAYERS SHOULD PAY, WHICH THEY ARE, WITH THE RESOURCES OF THE OFFICE AND TAKE A POSITION, THIS IS THE 10TH M MAGA LAWSUIT INCLUDING PENNSYLVANIA AND OTHER STATES, IT IS AN ABUSE FOR THE TAXPAYERS RESOURCES.

>> TO ALVIN'S POINT -- >> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FROSTY ABOUT THIS LOAN FORGIVENESS IN RED SILOS AND IN BLUE.

OKAY?

>> IT DOESN'T MEAN AS A STATE.

>> IT IS COMING FROM THE TAXPAYERS, RAY.

>> THAT'S AN ARGUMENT FOR THE SENATE.

IT IS NOT COSTING MISSOURI STATE TAXPAYERS.

>> YES, IT IS!

.

>> WHERE DO YOU THINK IT IS COMING FROM?

>> IT IS A FEDERAL ISSUE, NOT A STATE.

>> I AM WITH ALVIN.

ALL OF THE MONEY WE GIVE FOR THIS AND THAT.

>> 250 THOUSAND DOLLARS?

I MEAN YOU GET 10 GRAND?

>> IF A MAJOR BUSINESS GOES BANKRUPT, WELL THEY ARE TOO BIG TO FAIL, SO, LET'S GIVE THEM SOME MONEY.

>> WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.

>> WENDY IS RIGHT.

A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS, SHOULDN'T GET THEIR LOAN FORGIVEN.

>> I AGREE.

>> MAYBE IT SHOULD BE ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND.

IT IS TOO HIGH.

THE IDEA THAT WE WILL -- >> NO.

>> THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO PAID OFF THIS LOANS AND DECIDED NOT TO GO TO COLLEGE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT.

>> THE INTEREST RATE IS 6 PERCENT, AND IT IS NOW 9.

WITH YOU DON'T GO BACK AND SAY WE OWE YOU 6 PERCENT.

>> THE PERSON SIGNED FOR A 6 PERCENT LOAN, THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

WE ARE NOT BAILING OUT HOMEOWNERS ARE WE?

>> THIS IS NOT IN TERMS OF THE STATE TAXPAYERS OF MISSOURI, LIKE THE PIPELINE, YOU CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT, JOE BIDEN CLOSING THE PIPELINE.

WE FOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

WE JUMPED ON AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IN OTHER STATES.

WE JUMPED IN ON -- WHAT -- THERE A WHOLE LOT OF CASES WHERE WE HAVE ENGAGED MISSOURI TAXPAYERS TO HAVE ERIC SCHMIDT FOR MAGA.

>> IT MAY BE EXPENSIVE, HE IS -- >> HE IS NOT.

THAT IS NOT WHAT HE IS HIRED TO DO.

>> HIS JOB IS NOT TO FILE GRIEFS IN CASES.

HIS JOB IS TO REPRESENT MISSOURI.

>> IF THE PEOPLE AGREE WITH YOU, THEY WON'T ELECT HIM IN NOVEMBER.

>> HE IS NOT RUNNING FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL.

>> PEOPLE THINK THAT HE IS A TERRIBLE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

>> HE IS.

HE IS THE WORST EVER.

>> LET'S GET TO THE MAIN TOPICS ON THE SHOW.

YOU CAN GO TO TWITTER AND USE THE HASH TAG.

>> WHETH> WHEN IT COMES TO THE MAYOR, THE PROBLEMS AT THE JAIL WON'T GO AWAY.

SIX PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR, DAN ISOM, SAYS THAT SOME DIED FROM THE DRUG OVERDOSES.

>> THERE IS A DRUG OVERSIGHT BOARD BUT THE JONES' ADMINISTRATION IS NOT ALLOWING THEM TO GO INTO THE JAIL TO INSPECT.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THESE PROBLEMS MAY GO AWAY IF WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO TO THE OLD WORK HOUSES.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU.

THE JUSTICE CENTER CHAOS FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAD THE LOCKS FIXED ON THE DOORS BECAUSE THAT WAS GOING TO BE 24 MILLION DOLLARS.

NOW, THEY ARE ASKING FOR BODY SCANNERS.

THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR FUNDING FOR THE BODY SCANNERS TO KEEP THE CORRECTION OFFICERS FROM BRINGING THE DRUGS.

THE ONE CORRECTION OFFICER WAS FOUND TO BRING 30 FENTANYL PILLS INTO THE JAIL.

THE BODY SCANNER -- IT IS, IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.

AND WE ARE JUST THROWING MONEY AT IT.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE WORK HOUSE ISN'T A PART OF THE SOLUTION.

>> YOU HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS WHERE YOU ARE AT.

FIX WHERE THEY ARE AT.

IT IS CLOSED.

I FEEL FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.

NOT THE GUARDS THAT ARE SMUGGLING STUFF IN.

FIX THE PROBLEM THERE.

AND I ALSO THINK A DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATION IN A DIFFERENT TIME WOULD BE -- WHO CARES ABOUT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN JAIL.

THE JONES' ADMINISTRATION ISN'T TAKING THAT VIEW.

>> YOU ARE RIGHT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY.

>> I'M IN MY OWN ISLAND, YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY AND CITY JAIL, THE MESS THAT IT IS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE REGIONAL SOLUTION TO THIS.

WE HAVE THE REGIONAL COOPERATION OF A MAJOR CASE SQUAD, 911, WE HAVE POLICE -- I THINK WE OUGHT TO REALLY LOOK -- I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY MOVEMENT.

>> WHERE WOULD IT BE?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK THE CITY AND COUNTY HAVE PROBLEMS AND IT IS SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS.

MAYBE WE CAN BRING IN, GOD FORBID, THE OTHER REGIONS.

>> I THINK YOU WILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH A JAIL ANYWHERE.

WE DON'T PAY GUARDS A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.

AND THE PEOPLE ARE IN THERE AND ACCUSED -- >> DON'T THROW -- >> IT IS JUST A FESTERING PLACE TO HAVE PROBLEMS.

>> DON'T THROW COFFEE MUGS AT ME; SHOULD WE PRIVATIZE?

>> GAMBLING CASINO.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> I THINK THE RESOURCES ISSUES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT -- I KNOW IT IS THE KIND OF PROBLEM IT IS NOT SEXY, I THINK A REGIONAL APPROACH MAY DEAL WITH THE RESOURCES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

AND PRIVATIZATION HAS BEEN OF ALL OF THE PLACES, IT HAS BEEN A FAILURE AND CORRUPT AND IN PRISONS IN RIGHT UP THERE WITH IT.

ENTERPRISE WAS INVOLVED.

AND IT WAS A MESS AND NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT.

THEY WERE INVOLVED IN THE PRIVATE PRISON WORLD.

NO ONE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

>> I KNEW THEY SOLD SUPPLIES.

>> YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.

THERE WERE IN THE BUSINESS.

>> HE SOLD SUPPLIES.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE, RAY.

>> MY POINT, IS -- >> IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE DOWNTOWN OR ST. LOUIS COUNTY JAIL.

>> A REGIONAL SOLUTION.

>> TO YOUR POINT, PART OF THE PROBLEM, SOME OF THE ATTORNEYS FOR THOSE ACCUSED OF CRIMES, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE, ACCUSED OF CRIMES.

THERE IS OVER-CROWDING.

THEY ARE SLEEPING ON FLOORS.

IF THEY KEPT THE WORK HOUSE OPEN, THERE WOULDN'T BE SUCH AN ISSUE.

>> THERE COULD BE PEOPLE WALKING THE STREETS.

>> I WANT TO THANK KEN, THE ARTIST, GAVE US THERE.

IT IS ABOVE OUR MANTLE ON THE DONNYBROOK SET.

THAT IS THE PRIOR.

>> THE CHURCH THERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT HERE AT 9 PBS.

>>> LET'S GO TO THE OLD MAILBAG.

>> IN THE 1980'S AND 1990'S PRODUCTS COULD BE STOLEN WITH A SCREW DRIVER.

IT WAS SO BAD THAT CAR LEASING COMPANIES DROPPED THEM FROM THEIR FLEETS.

THEY CHANGED IT.

>> DEFUND POLICE IS THE MOST MISLEADING POLITICAL STATEMENT EVER.

A BETTER STATEMENT WOULD BE SUPPORT THE POLICE; REFORM, REFUND.

>> THFANK YOU.

>> WE LOVE THOSE TWEETS.

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