Donnybrook
Donnybrook: September 14, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 57 | 27m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Bill McClellan, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Bill McClellan, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann. Topics include the St. Charles County property tax freeze for senior citizens, Department of Public Health messaging, Webster University salaries, Washington University ending gender-affirming care for minors, homeless shelters in St. Louis city, and more.
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Donnybrook
Donnybrook: September 14, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 57 | 27m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Wendy Wiese, Bill McClellan, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann. Topics include the St. Charles County property tax freeze for senior citizens, Department of Public Health messaging, Webster University salaries, Washington University ending gender-affirming care for minors, homeless shelters in St. Louis city, and more.
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>> THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR >>> TONIGHT WE'RE GOING ON THE ONE HUNDRED 99TH GREAT SHOW.
STUCK ON 198 A LONG TIME.
SHE'S WITH JENNIFER ON THE BIG 550 KTRS, WENDY WIESE BILL McCLELLAN, FROM STL TODAY.COM RAY HARTMANN, FOUN AND OF COURSE YOU SEE HI AND MR. ALVIN REID FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, WHO WAS ON THIS WEEK WITH STEVE EHLM FOR ST CHARLES COUNTY THE BOARD, UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO GIVE A PROPERTY TAX FREEZE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE SENIORS >> IF YOU'RE 62, WHICH YOU'RE YOUNG, ACTUALLY.
ADDITIONAL MONEY, THE DISTRICT.
>> JUST TURNED BREAK.
>> TWO THINGS.
OH MY GOSH, [INAUDIBLE].
GREAT GUY, REALLY LIKE HIM.
EXPLAINED THAT THE SHOW, BY BOTH SIDES, AND OUT OF THE WAY.
INFLATION, [INAUDIBLE].
THE COST, OTHER LIKE, THIS IS TRUE -- WHY HE FAVORED IT.
BUT MYSELF, THINK THAT THIS DAY AND AGE, ULTIMATELY WON'T NEED THAT.
IT'S A MISTAKE.
>> GO AHEAD.
[INAUDIBLE].
CAN HARDLY -- >> I'M LIKE YOU, THIS JUST SCREAMS TO ME.
BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT BLOCK FOR A LONG TIME.
HE SAID THAT THE IDEA IS TERRIFIC; LEGISLATION [INAUDIBLE].
REWORKED.
SCHOOLS, SAID FIRE DISTRICT PROTECTION AND -- BELIEVE HE ALMOST QUOTED, HE THINKS BOTH WILL PROFIT IN TERMS OF MAKING UP [INAUDIBLE].
WE LEARN ANYTHING FROM PANDEMIC -- >> JUST LOVE [INAUDIBLE].
>> YOU DO.
>> I'M THINK COUNTY HAS DIFFERENT NEEDS, WHATEVER.
[INAUDIBLE].
AND OF COURSE.
>> THEN AGAIN -- >> PROBABLY -- >> I HAVE A FOUNDER, HOW CAN YOU BE IN FAVOR OF THE BOEING TECH CUTS, AND -- BUT [INAUDIBLE].
I TALKED TO ONE, SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE 600 -- PRESCRIPTIONS.
[INAUDIBLE].
I CAN SUPPORT -- BOEING DEVELOP THE NEXT GENERATION PLANE, AND IT'LL BE TERRIFIC.
THEY NEED HELP TO DO THAT, BREAK TO SENIORS.
NOT WORK PEOPLE -- JUST DOESN'T -- >> DON'T FORGET, BOEING 5,000 JOBS.
>> ON THE BOEING THING, IT'S N BECAUSE BOEING NEEDS HELP.
BOEING IS THE -- BOEING CUT THING IS A PHENOMENON THAT IS DIFFICULT GAME TO PLAY IT OR YOU DON'T.
>> FOR NOW, THE CORPORATIONS THAT BUILT THIS COUNTRY -- >> WAY TO PU >> CLOSE ENOUGH.
>> TOPIC, UNUSUAL ON THE SITE KNOWN AS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, THERE'LL BE VACCINE COMING IN OCTOBER.
IF THAT, [INAUDIBLE].
THE MISSOURI PUBLIC OR GOOD IN PUBLIC, AND WOBBLEY ON -- >> I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING WOBBLEY.
THE BILLBOARDS, STUFF.
LIKE YOU, THINK THE DEPARTMENT [INAUDIBLE].
RSVC SEASON.
GET YOUR SHOTS.
DON'T GIVE IT -- I'M SORRY.
>> PUTTING ON -- INFLATION, COVID -- FOUR DIFFERENT [INAUDIBLE].
>> RIGHT, IT'S SAD.
>> I THINK IT'S -- >> I'M NOT -- I THINK IT SHOULD BE -- >> I AGREE.
>> IF THEY MAKE IT -- CERTAINLY KEEP [INAUDIBLE].
>> IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF DEAL.
>> SUBSEQUENTLY, THEY SAID -- I WAS GOING TO -- TELEVISION.
JUST A LITTLE PART OF HUMOR AND THAT REMEMBER THE NAME OF -- THAT'S WHY NOW [INAUDIBLE].
BETTER THAN, OR DOES THIS OR DOESN'T.
YES, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT STILL INFORMATION TO EVERYONE.
>> UNDERSTAND.
>> THIS IS PUBLIC HEALTH.
HAS TO BE NO FUNNY AREA.
>> WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THE VACCINE.
IF YOU DON'T, THE PUBLIC DIRECTOR -- LITERALLY PEOPLE TO GET VACCINATED.
IT WOULD BE -- I AGREE WITH YOUR SENTIMENT.
BU HEALTH DEPARTMENT -- >> THERE'S ANY -- IN THE MINDS, IN MY MIND, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY HA ABOUT IT.
>> HOW WAS IT WHEN YOU'RE CLOSE TO THIS WEEK, THE UNIVERSITY, FORMER GUEST OF THIS PROGRAM.
$900,000 A YEAR.
THE PRESIDENT IS MAKING -- THE SCHOOL LOST OVER THE LAST -- TO THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND ENROLLME ENROLLMENT.
THER RENOVATED IN SHORT ORDER.
I THINK THAT'S MONEY, SHOULD BE TALKING [INAUDIBLE].
>> I NEWSPAPER JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION.
MASTER'S DEGREE, WEBSTER.
>> PRIVATE SCHOOL.
THEIR CHANCELLOR IS UP TO TH PRIVATE SCHOOL, THAT'S NOT OUR MONEY.
HOW MUCH IT COST, ALL OVER THE WORLD AND MAYBE WEBSTER FINANCIAL CRISIS, IN DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT YOUR SALARY, BUT I AM SAYING THE [INAUDIBLE].
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
HE JUST >> I HAVE WORKED FOR THE CORPORATION, THAT -- TO A DOLLAR, AND RAISE IT, IS NOW MORE THAN -- [INAUDIBLE].
I THINK THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO -- [LAUGHTER] >> IT'S I WAS CURIOUS HOW -- WHY NOT GI GIVE.
>> IT'S LIKE THINGS >> IT WAS A GREAT -- >> WAS THIS, CORRECT?
TO SAY, SOME OF THESE STORIES ARE PAID.
>> PAYING -- WEBSTER, SCHOLARSHIP.
THAT'S REALLY THE PROBLEM, THE BIG BILL TO PAY FOREVER.
THE ADMINISTRATORS PAY THEMSELVES TOO MUCH.
TOO MANY ADMINISTRATORS.
HOW CAN CAN LOSE BY INCREASE?
>> FORMER COMPANY, THEY CAME THIS CLOSE -- PAY RAISES.
>> SHARE WENT TO A -- I WAS LIKE, BUT YES.
THE EXECUTIVES GAVE IN JUNE.
>> THAT'S TONE DEAF, WHATEVER IS -- &g >> WHAT IS BANKROLL.
>> WELL, RAY HARTMANN, AT WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY, WHICH ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK TH WOULD NO LONGER BE -- PUBERTY OR HORMONE THERAPY FOR MINORS.
COUNSELLING, AND THEY'LL ROUTE STUDENTS ELSEWHERE.
SOME STUDENTS ARE -- UNDER 18.
FROM ONE SEX TO ANOTHER WITH THE HELP OF WASHINGTON UNIVE THAT'S NOT HAPPENING ANYMORE, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>&g PARENTS.
I DO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES, WE JUST [INAUDIBLE].
AN OLD FASHIONED REPUBLICAN.
WHICH I WORK FOR.
YOU KNOW, LET THEIR OWN CHOICES.
IT'S NOT MY BUSINESS.
THE MEDICAL -- AT THIS POINT.
I TALKED TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, WHO FEEL VERY -- ABOUT IT.
COULDN'T PASS A SCIENCE TEST.
I'M NOT INTERESTED, SECOND -- FROM PEDIATRICIANS, SOMETHING SPECULATIVE.
>> CAN I JUMP IN?
THERE IS DIVISION IN THE NEW YORK TIMES THE STORY EVEN THE DOCTORS IN BOSTON WHO BROUGHT THIS TREATMENT TO THE UNITED STATES -- THERE'S NOT MENTAL THERAPY.
AND CIRCULATING WITH WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY, KIDS E THE ABILITY -- >> THAT'S NOT -- >> OF THE GOVERNMENT.
>> FAMILIES AND THEIR MEDICAL -- >> I THINK MAYBE THE UNIVERSITY -- THE ROLE OF -- >> Y AND THEY'RE NOT.
>> >> IT'S INTERESTING, YOUR GOOD FRIEND, ASKED HIM, OF THE POPULATION, WHY IS THIS AN ISSUE?
MAKING IT AN ISSUE.
THE LEGISLATORS MAKING IT A POLITICAL ISSUE.
IT'S BEING PRESENTED -- CHILDREN AND FAMILIES DECIDE THAT WHAT DIRECTION THEY WANT TO CHANGE.
THE PROCESS IS MORE -- THAN THAT.
>> DON'T FORGET, THE WHISTLEBLOWER, THE WOMAN -- INDIVIDUAL, WHO WAS FIRST WORKING.
>> NO, I THINK THAT EURO MIGHT BE TIME TO DIAL SOME OF THIS, AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE MENTAL COUNSE >> ON THIS, PRIVATE SCHOOL WHATEVER, WELL, WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY, I PUT MYSELF ON THE SCIENTIFIC -- SOMETHING DON'T FEEL >> BECAUSE I THINK, THEY'RE AFRAID TO GET -- [INAUDIBLE].
HAVE TO STAND UP TO.
>> I THINK WE'RE CONCERNED OF THE LIABILITY.
THE NEW LEGISLATION.
>> COMING AFTER YOU.
>> THE SCHOOL.
>> YOU THINK IS RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
THINK THAN I DO ANDREW.
ON THE OTHER HAND, NOT LONG AGO, THE COMMUNITY WAS [INAUDIBLE].
I MEAN -- >> TOBACCO USE.
>> YEAH, A NUANCE.
BUT I AGREE.
>> I D I DON'T KNOW ITSELF, OUTLAW -- >> I DO.
>> MAYBE THEY DO.
>> BILL, ASK YOU THE NEW DIRECTOR FOR CITY HALL, NOW MEET THE [INAUDIBLE].
THE MAYOR OF ST. L 200 CITY HALL.
AND NOW, THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE WAY THE SHELTER IN THE CITY, TO GET IT [INAUDIBLE].
SHELTER.
LOOK AT AND GUARD, AT LEAST VETOED THE COMMUNITY.
>> THE WORST IDE THE IDEA OF GOING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, KNOCKING DOWN A HOMELESS SHELTER, I SAID YOU BOUGHT THE -- FOR THE HOMELESS SHELTER.
I DIDN'T [INAUDIBLE].
I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE POLITICS, IF YOU'RE THE MAYOR OR FRIENDS OF THE MAYOR, MAYBE YOU WON'T [INAUDIBLE].
WHAT MIGHT BE EVERY BLOCK.
I DON'T THINK ANY GOOD I CAN SEE, HE WROTE LONG AGO THAT ON THE RIVER, ON THE NORTH SIDE, NEAR WHERE THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS HAS ITS RELEASE SIGN, WE SHOULD HAVE DORMITORIES BUILT AND THE HOMELESS PEOPLE CAN LIVE IN THE WE CAN HAVE SERVICES THERE, THE IDEA YOU PUT ONE IN HOLLY HILLS AND ONE HERE, THERE'S NO SERVICES AROUND FOR THEM.
IT SEEMS CRAZY.
>> THIS MIGHT BE T FOR A LOT OF FRAGILE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CLINGING TO THE IDEA OF CITY LIVING BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH LA MIGHT BE THE THING THAT PUSHES THEM COMPLETELY OVER THE EDGE.
>> I DISAGREE.
I THINK SOMEONE DECISION.
THE BU RIGHT NOW, HOMELESS IS LIVING ALL OVER THE CIT AND YOU CAN'T MOVE THEM, ACCORDING TO FEDERAL LAW OFF OF PUBLIC PROPERTY UNLESS YOU HAVE A PLACE TO AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO TAKE THEM.
THERE STICK.
SO TO FIND A LOCATION, AN NEIGHBORHOOD WILL GET EXTRA POLICE SERVICES AND EXTRA LIGHTS AND WHATEVER.
>> HOW ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL AREA -- WE HAVE SEVERAL.
>> THE INDUSTRIAL >> YOU HAVE PEOPLE.
>> BUT I THINK BILL IS RIGHT.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM, THAT WE HAVE FIRST OF ALL, THESE ARE PEOPLE.
THE IDEA THAT THE CITY IS SENDING PEOPLE DOOR TO DOOR TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE MONEY, BUT DOESN'T BOTHER TO -- >> TALK TO THE RESIDENTS.
>> WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR YO U.
IT'S JUST NOT.
>> THE MOST CI WAY.
THE SIGNATURES OF HALF THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
>> THE HOMELESS SHELTERS.
>> I BET HE DID.
>> I LIVED THERE.
>> THE SECOND >> AL CAPONE WAS ALIVE WHEN YOU LIVED HERE.
>> H BUT ELLIOTT WENT TO MY HIGH SCHOOL.
TO THE WORST NEIGHBORHOODS IN NORTH ST NOT THE BEST NEIGHBORHOODS SOUTH ST. LOUIS.
HERE WE GO AGAIN, THE CENTRAL CORRIDOR AREA.
>> THE MANSIONS ON LAKE AND -- WEST MORELAND, PUT ONE THERE?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
>> ANY AT THIS CITY COUNCIL GOT TOGETHER, WE HAVE THIS KIND OF PROBLEM AND WE'RE NO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WE HAVE TO PUT LIKE A DOG POUND IN SOMEONE'S NEIGHBORHOOD.
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