>>> DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE BETSY AND THOMAS FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF 9 PBS.

>>> WELCOME THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING FOR THIS EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.

GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO 9 PBS WHICH WENT ON THE AIR SEPTEMBER 20, 1954.

68 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK.

HOW ABOUT THAT.

>> LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS ON THIS ESTEEMED TV STATION, WENDY WIESE, COHOST ON THE 550,>> AND MR. BILL MCCLELLAN, COLUMNISTS.

AND THE POST DISPATCH.

>> RAY HEARTMAN, TALK SHOW HOST, HE IS WITH -- THE RIVER FRONT TIMES AND THE HOST OF SAINT LOUIS IN THE KNOW.

>> ALVIN REID, AND EDITOR AT THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.

>> AND ALVIN AND RAY WILL BE WITH US ON NEXT UP HALF WAY THROUGH THIS HOUR TALKING ABOUT REDLINING AND HISTORIC DISCRIMINATION IN THE SAINT LOUIS AREA.

>> ALVIN, WE ARE 6 OR 7 WEEKS AWAY FOR THE SENATOR.

ERIC SCHMITT, AND TRUED E, AND THEY HAVE NOT AGREED TO DEBATE.

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?

>> THE MISSOURI PRESS ASSOCIATION LAST YEAR -- LAST WEEKEND AT THEIR ANNUAL CONVENTION, FOUR PLACES, THREE CANDIDATES SHOWED UP.

SCHMITT DID NOT.

YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF IT IN THE AMERICAN.

IT IS SHAMEFUL.

YOU HAVE JOURNALISTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF MISSOURI, RURAL, URBAN DISTRICTS AND EVERYONE IS THERE AND HE DOESN'T SHOW UP.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU WANT A DEBATE, AND MAKE FUN OF HER.

THERE WAS YOUR CHANCE.

HE BACKED OUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS SCARED.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS LOST.

IT IS HARD TO FIND YOUR WAY TO THE FOUR SEASONS.

THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR IT.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY MORE OF HIS PLATATTITUDES OR NONSENSE.

>> LET ME MAKE YOU HEAR IT ONE TIME.

>> [LAUGHTER.]

>> I AM FOR TRUDY.

IT IS FOR THE UNDER DOG TO DEBATE.

ERIC WOULDN'T AGREE TO A DEBATE ON THIS STATION OR ANY OTHER STATION.

HE SAID HE WOULD DO IT ON KT KT KTVI.

AND TRUDY SHOULD HAVE SAID I WILL DEBATE HIM WHEREVER.

ACCORDING TO THE POLLS, SHE IS BEHIND.

AND SHE CAN'T BE THERE SAYING AND WELL, HE SHOULD DEBATE ON MY TERMS.

I PUT THIS ON TRUDY.

>> IT IS THE POLITICS OF PERSONAL ATTACKS.

YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FASHION A PERSONAL ATTACK.

SHE IS AN ELITIST.

HE IS NOT FLEXIBLE.

>> WHAT BUGS ME IS I REMEMBER A TIME WHEN IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO WHEN YOU HAD SENATE DEBATES AND GUBERNATORIAL DEBATES ON EVERY TV STATION LOCALLY.

>> TRUE.

>> THAT WAS A SERVICE TO THE VOTERS.

NOW THEY ARE SO CAUGHT UP IN THE NAME-CALLING AND CAMPAIGNING THAT THE VOTERS ARE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

THAT'S WHAT THE VOTERS INTO ED -- NEED TO REMEMBER.

>> -- IS A COWARD.

THAT THE UNDERDOG HAS MORE OF AN OBLIGATION.

TO WENDY'S POINT -- >> IF YOU ARE LOSING.

>> I DON'T CARE.

WINNING OR LOSING IN GENERAL HAS AN OBLIGATION TO THE VOTERS TO DEBATE.

>> ALL I'M SAYING IS THE PERSON WHO IS WINNING IS GOING TO SAY, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO DEBATE BECAUSE ALL THAT CAN HAPPEN IS BAD THINGS.

>> RIGHT.

RIGHT.

>> TRUDY NEEDS TO GET OUT THERE -- >> TO BE AGGRESSIVE.

>> -- TO BE SEEN ON THE STAGE AND PUT HER POINTS FORWARD.

>> I THINK BILL IS CORRECT.

POINT OF ORDER; SHE AGREED TO A DEBATE AT 9 PBS -- HANG ON.

>> -- >> I AM TRYING TO INTRODUCE A FACT.

>> DON'T BRING FACTS INTO THIS.

>> 9 PBS DIDN'T HEAR FROM MR. SCHMITT.

>> IT IS BACK TO THE WHOLE M MAGATHING, AND THE FOX AFFILIATE IS WHERE HE FEELS COMFORTABLE -- >> OH, COME ON.

IT IS NOT A FOX AFFILIATE.

>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

>> THEY RUN ONE STATION.

>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN JASMINE DOING THE INTERVIEW.

>> HE WOULDN'T WANT TO DO -- >> WHATEVER THE REASON IS, WHY KTVI?

WHAT RAY IS SAYING, THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING.

[ALL TALKING AT ONCE].

>> I'M NOT DENYING THAT, IF TRUDY WANTS TO WINS HAS TO BE WILLING TO SAY, I WILL BE DEBATING HIM ANYWHERE.

>> IF YOU ARE IN SCHMITT'S CAMP, ALL YOU CAN DO TO LOSE GROUND.

>> A DATA JOURNALIST WITH THE POST DISPATCH AND WAS CALLED A HACKER BY THE GOVERNOR.

A HORRIBLE MOMENT WHEN JOSH WAS DOING HIS JOB AND ACCUSED OF BREAKING INTO THE COMPUTERS.

TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, HE IS AN AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST.

>> IT IS GREAT TO SEE.

HE IS A NICE YOUNG MAN AND A COMPUTER SPECIALIST.

HE FOUND THAT ON THE WEBSITE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION TEACHER'S PERSONAL INFORMATION WAS ASSESSABLE.

AND HE CALLED THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION ALERTED THEM TO THE PROBLEM BEFORE HE WROTE THE STORY.

AND GOVERNOR PARSON, HE CALLED THE HIGHWAY PATROL AND SAYS HE WAS CRIMINAL HACKING AND THE SOCIETY FOR PROFESSIONAL JOURNALISTS.

WHATEVER IT IS, HAS GIVEN JOSH A NATIONAL AWARD.

IT IS WELL-DESERVED.

>> GREAT.

>> SHAME ON THE GOVERNOR!

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT A JOURNEY I, VIC FAUST, AN ANCHOR WITH KTVI AND MOON-LIGHTED FOR A RADIO.

HE WENT ON A RANT DURING A COMMERCIAL BREAK AND WAS FIRED AS A RESULT OF THIS.

YOUR COLLEAGUE BROKE THE STORY.

WHEN THEY RELEASED THE TAPE OF THE CONVERSATION, IT SOUNDED LIKE MORSE CODE TO ME BECAUSE IT HAD SO MANY BEEPS.

THERE IS AN OPENING THERE, BECAUSE CHANNEL 2 FIRED THE GUY.

>> IT WAS AN INTERESTING STORY.

I FELT UNEASY ABOUT IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

HE SEEMED LIKE HE WAS ATTACKING A WOMAN ABOUT BEING A BAD MOTHER.

AND THAT'S JUST A TERRIBLE THING TO DO ESPECIALLY TO A WORKER MAN.

I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR FAUST.

I FELT UNEASY ABOUT A CONVERSATION THAT WAS OFF AIR AND NOT PUBLIC BEING MADE PUBLIC AND I KNOW THAT ONCE YOU GO ON TV, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A PRIVACY ARGUMENT.

IF YOU ARE OUT THERE, WATCHING ME, WATCH ME.

YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH PRIVACY.

I STILL FELT KIND OF AWKWARD ABOUT IT.

I READ IT -- AND GOOD FOR YOU, JOE, I THOUGHT.

BUT, I FELT KIND OF DIRTY READING IT.

>> I DIDN'T.

IT WAS A GREAT JOB BY JOE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WITNESSES 2022.

YOU ARE ON CAMERA.

WHEN YOU ARE WALKING DOWN THE STREET, YOU ARE ON A CAMERA.

ANYWHERE YOU ARE, SOMEBODY CAN BE RECORDING ON A CELL PHONE WHAT YOU SAY.

I AM NORMALLY QUICK TO SAY THAT YOU SHOULD BE FIRED.

THIS WASN'T A GRAY AREA.

PART OF IT SOUNDS SEXIST.

AS A GUY, I THOUGHT WHAT A HORRIBLE COWARD YOU ARE.

TALKING TO A WOMAN LIKE THAT.

IF HE WAS MAD AND SAID A FEW THINGS AND SAY ANGER MANAGE MANY.

TO BE AS VILE AS HE WAS.

YOU CAN'T GO ON AS A TV NEWS ANCHOR.

THERE'S NO SECOND CHANCE IN MY OPINION.

>> CHARLIE, WENDY, YOU HAVE DONE SO MUCH RADIO, AND THE A LITTLE BIT THAT I HAVE DONE, IT IS, LIKE, TV, YOU KNOW THAT I'M ON TV.

WHEN WE BREAK, WE ARE VERY WELL AWARE THAT THE FACT THAT CAN SEE US IN THE CONTROL ROOM.

SO DON'T DO ANYTHING NUTTY.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> RADIO, I'M SENSITIVE WHEN WE GO TO BREAK.

MAYBE AT SOME POINT NOT CUSSING SOMEONE OUT.

I MAY HAVE SAID A CUSS WORD.

I DON'T THINK HE REALLY GOT FIRED AS BOTH PLACES FOR JUST SAYING SOMETHING.

IF HE WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT HER AND SAID, YOU KNOW -- >> YOU ARE A -- BLANK, BLANK.

>> OKAY.

HE WOULD'VE GOT SUSPENDED.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT THAT RANT, IT MADE HIM SOUND DANGEROUS.

AS AN EMPLOYER I CAN'T HAVE YOU HERE IF PEOPLE ARE FLAT-OUT AN AFRAID OF YOU.

IT WAS FRIGHTENING.

IT WAS BEYOND -- >> I CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT.

>> SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY FASCINATING, I NOTICED ON A COUPLE OF WEBSITES OF PEOPLE WHO HAD, YOU KNOW, COMMENTED ON OTHER PEOPLE'S FACEBOOK PAGES AND I SAW SOME FORMER RADIO PEOPLE, MUSIC RADIO PEOPLE SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR THINGS TO GET OUT OF HAND.

I THOUGHT, YES, IT ACTUALLY IS.

IT IS UNCOMMON FOR THINGS TO GET OUT OF HAND LIKE THAT.

AND TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST, THIS WAS ALMOST LIKE THE MERCIFUL THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO HIM.

BECAUSE -- BECAUSE IF HE LOST HIS MIND OVER SOMEBODY TEASING HIM ABOUT HIS LACK OF COMPUTER SKILLS, THEN THIS MAN HAS IN BUSINESS IN TALK RADIO OR TV.

YOU ARE EXPECTED TO BE A HOST.

HE WAS MENACING.

THE WORDS WERE MENACING.

IT WAS CLEARLY A SET-UP.

HE -- >> -- GONE.

>> HE HAD A HISTORY OF THIS.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE IN A ROOM OF MICROPHONES.

SOMETHING BAD CAN HAPPEN IF YOU DECIDE TO GO OFF ON SOMEBODY LIKE THAT.

THEY HAD HAD A PROBLEM BEFORE.

SOMEBODY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT SITUATION.

THAT WAS MENACING.

>> WHAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO RECORD THE CONVERSATIONS DURING THE COMMERCIAL BREAKS OF ST. LOUIS IN THE KNOW?

>> WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT MCDONALD'S.

>> MY PREDICTION IS HE WILL COME BACK.

>> NO.

NOT IN THIS MARKET!

>> I DISAGREE.

>> HE WILL DO WELL ON RIGHT-WING ROAD FOR TV.

LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE TRUMP USED IN CALLING THAT WOMAN A HORSE-FACE.

AND ALL OF THAT STUFF -- >> THAT REMINDED ME.

YOU CALL SOMEBODY A BAD MOTHER, I GUARANTEE, IF THERE IS A FATHER INVOLVED -- >> ALL RIGHT.

>> RAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT A PLAN ENDORSED BY GREATER ST. LOUIS INC., WHICH IS THE BIG BUSINESS AND CIVIC GROUPS CLOSE BARS AND NIGHTCLUBS IN DOWNTOWN SAINT LOUIS AT 1 O'CLOCK INSTEAD OF 3 O'CLOCK.

PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE HOMICIDES AND THE CRIME OVER THE WEEKEND.

THE RESIDENTS ON WASHINGTON AVENUE HAVE HAD IT UP TO HERE.

THEY WANT TO CLOSE THE BARS AT 1:30, ROLLING UP THE SIDEWALKS HERE IN ST. LOUIS.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE IS A MATERIAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 1:30 AND 3.

IF ANYTHING, I'M NOT SOMEBODY THAT THINKS WE CAN POLICE OUR WAY OUT OF THINGS.

IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE CORPORATE STRUCTURE WAS INTERESTED IN DEALING WITH THE CAUSES RATHER THAN THE SYMPTOMS OF THE PROBLEMS.

AT 3 A.M., TO THE EXTENT THE POLICING SHOULD WORK, THERE'S NOT A LOT GOING ON.

YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THOSE CLUBS THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME OF THE DAY.

THE IDEA THAT THEY UNIQUELY POSE A PROBLEM.

BILL HAS MADE THE POINT WELL ON THE QUESTION OF HOMELESSNESS.

IF YOU MOVE INTO A DOWNTOWN AREA THAT HAS BARS IN IT, YOU CAN'T ARGUE THAT THE BARS SHOULDN'T EXIST.

IF YOU THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 1:30 AND 3, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

>> I THINK THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

IF THE CITY SAYS SHUT IT DOWN, THEN SHUT IT DOWN.

IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO ME.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS A BIG DEAL.

WE ARE CLOSING AT 1:30.

YOU CAN GO TO THE NORTH SIDE, EAST SIDE, YOU ARE NOT STAYING DOWN HERE.

IT IS NOT LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO THROW CUFFS ON EVERYONE AS 2:01 LINGERING.

THEY PROBABLY SHOULD.

I THINK IT IS FAIR.

>> I AGREE.

>> I APPLAUD THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING -- THEY ARE ADDRESSING A PROBLEM.

AND SO, AS YOU SAID, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OTHER ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.

IF PEOPLE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DRINK AT THAT HOUR, YOU HAVE ALTERNATIVES.

>> WAIT.

I THOUGHT RAY WAS GOING TO SAY, BILL, BILL WILL BE HANGING OUT UNTIL 3 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

>> YOU HAVE TO GO BACK SEVERAL YEARS [LAUGHTER.]

>> MAYBE.

>> IN AN EARLY YEARS WAS DONNYBROOK.

>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT GOVERNOR PRITZKER OF ILLINOIS.

HE IS VERY UPSET WITH THE BUS LOADS, MAYBE PLANE LOADS OF MIGRANTS WHO HAVE BEEN SENT TO CHICAGO, ABOUT 500 OF THEM FROM TEXAS, ARIZONA AND FLORIDA.

THE GOVERNOR IS MAKING SOME SORT OF POINT THAT THE IMMIGRATION ON THEIR BORDER IS OUT OF CONTROL.

2 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CUSTODY IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE.

ONE CITY, YUMA NOW HAS 150 THOUSAND MIGRANTS.

IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE!

.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SYMPATHY FOR PRITZKER, WHO IS BY THE WAY, CHICAGO IS A SANCTUARY CITY.

>> NO, I DON'T.

THIS IS UNEXPECTED.

YOU KNOW HOW SOME OF THESE BORDER AREAS FEEL!

ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEIR TOWNS.

I HAVE SORT OF BELIEVED THIS IS LIKE A CHESTNUTS THAT THEY ARE PULLING OUT OF THEIR POCKETS IN TIME FOR THE MIDTERMS TO GET PEOPLE MAD.

I DON'T THINK THERE A POLITICAL WILL.

IT IS POLITICAL THEATER AND THEY ARE EXPLOITING VULNERABLE PEOPLE.

>> I HAVE TOTAL SYMPATHY WITH ANYBODY ON THE RECEIVING END OF THIS.

YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT -- THIS IS LIKE A SIMULATED CIVIL WAR BETWEEN THE RED STATES AND THE BLUE STATES.

THERE IS NO MOTIVE THAN TO MAKE A POLITICAL POINT BY USING THESE POOR MIGRANTS WHO IS SUFFERED SO MUCH, TREATING THEM LIKE CATTLE.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF EVIDENCE IN ALL OF THE CASES THEY ARE GETTING THEM ON BUSES ON PLANES WITH A PROMISE, THE FALSE PROMISE THAT JOBS AWAIT THEM.

THAT IS THE LITERAL DEFINITION OF TRAFFICKING.

IT IS A CRIME.

>> OR KIDNAPPING.

>> RIGHT.

NO!

>> THE FUNNY THING IS, RAY -- >> IT IS A CRIME.

>> THERE IS EQUAL GUILT ON BOTH SIDES.

>> YES, THERE IS!

>> WHAT IS PRITZKER GUILTY OF?

>> I THINK ST. LOUIS SHOULD ASK FOR SOME OF PEOPLE.

THEY THOUGHT WE WOULD GET REFUGEES FROM HURRICANE KATRINA.

THEY WENT TO TEXAS.

NOW WE ARE TRYING TO GET AFGHAN REFUGEES.

GOOD FOR US.

THE REFUGEES FROM MEXICO AND CENTRAL AMERICA IS EASIER ASSIMILATED THAN -- >> I AGREE.

>> BUT THEY WOULDN'T SEND THEM.

WE WOULD LIKE PERMISSION TO GET THESE PEOPLE TO WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE JOBS.

>> I AGREE.

>> YOU ARE RIGHT.

THEY WOULDN'T SEND THEM.

THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE PEOPLE -- >> RAY -- >> THEY WOULDN'T SEND THEM.

>> THE WASHINGTON POST, "TIME" MAGAZINE HAVE INTERVIEWED AND THEY ARE NOT UPSET THAT THERE WERE SENT TO NEW YORK CITY AND MARTHA'S VINEYARD.

THEY SAY IT WAS A BLESSING TO GET AWAY TO THE NICER AREAS.

>> THAT'S FINE.

I DON'T WANT TO BE KIDNAPPED AND THEY TURN ME LOOSE AND -- >> THEY ARE NOT KIDNAPPED!

>> THIS IS MEAN, THIS IS CRUEL.

YOU JUST CAN'T -- >> ACCORDING TO THOSE WEBSITES, NOT ENTIRELY.

>> BECAUSE THE MIGRANTS ARE SAYING THEY ARE HAPPY.

THEY ARE CLOSER TO FAMILY MEMBERS AND THEY SAY HOW DO I GET FROM TEXAS.

>> THAT'S REALLY -- >> DO IT DOESN'T BUG YOU?

>> THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE.

>> IT DOESN'T BUG YOU?

>> SENDING THEM AROUND THE COUNTRY.

>> EXCUSE ME.

HE IS SENDING THEM TO RED STATES TO MAKE A POLITICAL POINT?

>> IT DOESN'T BUG YOU AT ALL?

>> DESANTIS AND ABBOTT ARE TREATING THEM AS PROPS AND SENDING THEM TO BLUE STATES TO MAKE A POLITICAL POINT.

IT DOESN'T BUG YOU?

>> IT DOESN'T BUG YOU THAT CITIES ON THE BORDER ARE OVERRUN.

>> I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

>> COMPREHENSIVE FORM IS SOMETHING WE NEED.

>> NO KIDDING!

>> NEITHER PARTY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB.

>> THANK YOU!

>> NO, NO.

IT DOESN'T MEAN IT IS OKAY SAY, YOU ARE A BLUE STATE BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T DONE A GOOD JOB.

>> ALVIN'S FAVORITE TOPIC IS SPORTS GAMBLING [LAUGHTER.]

.

PARSON SAYS IT IS NOT COMING UP IN THE SPECIAL SESSION.

MISSOURI WON'T BE IN 8TH STATE TO ALLOW SPORTS GAMBLING IN THE NATION.

>> GOVERNOR PARSON, YOU CAN SEND ME TO COPENHAGEN.

I WILL FIND MY WAY BACK.

AS CRAZY AS IT SOUNDS, HE IS RIGHT.

IT SHOULDN'T BE HANDLED IN THE SPECIAL SESSION.

ALVIN IS SITTING IN HIS WALLET.

A WAGER HE MADE UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS WOULD WIN THREE GAMES AND THEY HAVE.

YOU ARE A WINNER!

IT IS STUPID.

WE HAVE TO GET IT DONE.

THE SPECIAL SESSION IS NOT THE PLACE TO DO IT.

>> REALLY, IT ISN'T.

>> THIS SHOULDN'T BE A SPECIAL SESSION.

THERE WAS SOME URGENCY.

IT IS THE ONLY ITEM THAT HAS -- I DON'T -- WE HAVEN'T COVERED IT ENOUGH.

THE WHOLESALES TAX -- INCOME TAX CUT HAS NO URGENCY.

THERE'S NO REASON -- YOU HAVE GOT TO REMEMBER, SPECIAL SESSIONS COST TAXPAYERS A LOT OF MONEY.

THE CONCEPT IS TO DO SOMETHING THAT CAN'T WAIT.

THIS IS LESS THAN FOUR MONTHS BEFORE THE REGULAR SESSIONS STARTS.

>> CAN'T YOU MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE SPECIAL SESSION IS DEVOTED TO SOMETHING AT LEAST IT GETS DONE.

VOTED UP OR DOWN.

WE LEAVE IT TO THE LEGISLATURE, IT WON'T GET DONE.

>> THAT'S MY FEAR.

YOU DON'T HAVE TIME ON WHO WILL GET WHAT AND IT WILL GET VOTED DOWN AND YOU WILL START BACK FURTHER THAN YOU ALREADY ARE.

IT WILL PASS THIS SPRING WHEN THE LEGISLATURE IS IN.

THEY DIDN'T VOTE ON IT.

>> IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, MR.

EXPERT, THIS IS FROM A RETAIL LOCATION, RIGHT, OR MOBILE.

ON YOUR CELL PHONE OR IF YOU ARE IN AN ACTUAL STORE, LIKE, GAS STATION?

>> I THINK THEN THE CASINOS WILL GET INVOLVED THAT YOU COULD DO IT THERE.

>> IT IS AT THE CASINO, AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN BET SOMETHING IN TERMS OF THE CASINO OR A MAJOR LEAGUE STADIUM; IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THE TEAMS WANT IT, BLUES, CARDINALS.

THEY WILL -- [ALL TALKING AT ONCE].

>> AND THE GAS STATIONS.

>> IS ANYBODY ELSE NERVOUS?

>> TWO MINUTES TO GO.

>> CHESTERFIELD-BASED COMPANY, SPINAL IMPLANTS.

WE COULD USE THAT HERE.

>> THEY ARE MOVING TO TEXAS IT IS A BUSINESS-FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE AND THERE MORE TALENTED INDIVIDUALS.

>> IT HURTS MY FEELINGS.

I DON'T BUY IT.

THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON.

THEY SAY THE SKY IS SUNNIER IN TEXAS, THE PEOPLE ARE PRETTIER AND IT IS WARMER.

>> THE ICE IS COLDER.

>> YEAH, THE WATER IS CLEANER.

I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE BEEN "CR "CRONKIED" AGAIN.

>> EVERY TIME A COMPANY MAKES A MOVE, THERE ARE ONE HUNDRED FACTORS THAT WE DON'T KNOW.

THERE IS NO REASON TO TAKE WHAT THEY SAY AS FACE VALUE.

>> MAYBE THEY WANTED TO BE CLOSER TO THE MIGRANTS.

IT IS TERRIBLE IN TEXAS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SEND PEOPLE OUT.

I DON'T GET IT.

>> THERE WAS A TIME WHEN ST. LOUIS WAS BIGGER THAN DALLAS.

AND NOW DALLAS IS BIGGER THAN ST. LOUIS.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT MY HEAD IN THE SAND AND PRETEND THAT SOMETHING IS NOT GOING ON, FOLKS.

DALLAS HAS WHAT IT TAKES.

THERE IS SOMETHING HAPPENING THERE.

>> NO.

THERE IS SOMETHING HAPPENING.

>> THE TAX.

>> FOOTBALL.

>> DALLAS, TEXAS HAS HIGHER TAXATION PER CAPITA -- >> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

>> TO BE CONTINUED.

>> LOTS GOING ON.

BUT FIRST, LET'S GO TO THE OLD MAILBAG.

REGARDING THE RAM'S MONEY, WHO IS GOING TO GET THE MONEY TO HOLD.

THAT'S THE BATTLE.

THANK YOU, JANE.

>> WE HEARD FROM SHAWN, FIRST THE GLOBE ON YOUR SET TO THE PROBABLE ANGLE.

23.5 DEGREES.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT -- WRITE US.

WE LOVE THE E-MAILS.

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>> AND KATIE BERRY, THEY WILL TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF RED LINING AND THE APOLOGY IN THE ST. LOUIS AREA.

>> THAT'S NEXT.

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