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LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS.

STARTING WITH WENDY WIES THE BIG 550, KTRS.

BILL McCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

"RIVERFRONT TIMES" FOUNDER RAY HARTMANN AND FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, ALVIN REID WITH WHOM WE WILL BEGIN THE I THINK, SHALONDA WEBB AND STATE SENATOR ANGELA MOSLEY, THOUGHT THEY'RE ON "DONNYBROOK" THIS PAST THE JAMESTOWN MALL.

SHALONDA WEBB IS THE CHAIR OF THE ST. LOUIS COUN SHE SAID IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.

WE'RE TEARING DOWN THIS STRUCTURE.

COMMUNITY.

WHO WAS THERE FOR NOT DOING ANYTHING.

PROJECT.

SHE DIDN'T APPRECIATE THE LIES TOLD ABOUT HER.

SH CONFERENCE FOR THE A BUILDING?

>> I'M SAD.

THE BEHA THAT SITUATION IS NOTHING BUT SAD AND IT'S JUST A STATEMENT ABOUT POLITICS AT THIS TIME.

WHY THEY CHOSE TO GO DOWN THAT PATH RIGHT THEN, I HAVE NO IDEA.

THE WHOLE CLOWN SHOW, GOD.

I WILL MAKE A BIGGER SPECTACLE OF MYSELF THAN THE NEXT PERSON.

IT'S JUST SAD.

JAMESTOWN MALL USED TO BE A BIG DEAL.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THE COUNTY EXECUTIVES THERE, I DON'T KNOW WH THE DAY THEY'RE GOING TO START KNOCKING STUFF DOWN, MAY BE SAY THIS IS THE OFFICIAL FIRST ONE YOU KNOW HOW PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR IMPLOSIONS.

OKAY, IT'S GOING DOW I THINK THE BIGGER STORY IS THE BEHAVIOR OF OUR TWO ELECTED OFFICIALS, ONE ELECTED ONE AND ONE PAST.

>> I IT'S LIKE A TURF WAR.

YOU UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE AR GOING TO RUB E WRONG WAY.

I DO T WE HAVE A LONG RICH HISTORY HERE OF RIBBON CUTTING.

THIS IS THE SA ONLY IN REVERSE.

I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF A CONFERENCE.

I WILL SHOCK EVERYBODY ON THE PANEL TONIGHT BY SAYING THAT THE CITIZEN OF THE DAY AWARD SHOULD GO TO SAM PAGE.

HE WAS THE ONE THAT GOT UP AND MADE PEACE, MADE KIND OF LIKE A JOKE ABOUT MAKING AN OMELET, YOU HAVE TO BREAK A FEW EGGS.

HE EFFECTIVELY DIFFUSED THAT SITUATION.

THE DAY FOR EVERYBODY.

CONGRATULATIONS MR. COUNTY EXECUTIVE.

>> TIMES.

PART OF IT WAS IN DON'T WANT TO USED WORD REFRESHING, IT WAS SO OUT OF THE ORDINARY.

>> CANDID.

>> YOU DIDN'T SEE IT CO OF THING.

IT IS A COMMENTARY, NOT SO MUCH TWO PEOPLE AS OUR POLITICS.

IT'S A COMMENTARY OF WHERE WE ARE.

CUTTING.

ABOUT HOW LONG IT'S TAKEN TO DO ANYTHING.

COMPLAINED ABOUT HAVING THEIR PRIORITIES NEGLECTED, THIS IS EXHIBIT A.

AS FAR AS A CULTURE OF OUR POLITICS.

BOTH DEMOCRATS.

IT ISN'T TRUMP GOING AFTER BIDEN.

COUNTY.

TWO WOMEN.

>> IT WAS KIND OF REFRESHING WITH SHALONDA WEBB CALLING OUT STATE SENATOR MOSLEY.

SOMETIMES WHEN UP WHEN THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY CAME IN TO TALK ABOUT THE BILL BACK BETTER PROJECT HOW IT'S BRINGING MONEY TO ST. LOUIS.

REPRESENT BUSH VOTED AGAINST THAT MEASURE.

MAY BE SHOW UP AT EVENTS THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO.

> HOW WE KNOW?

I SAW SOME REA THAN YOU SAW KNOW IT'S GOT TO BE SOME PLACE IN THE MIDDLE.

MEANWHILE, WE SHOULD BE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW NEITHER ONE OF THEM IS RIGHT.

>> IN ANOTHER DAY TH HAVE BEE WILL BE LIKE WE'RE DOING A RIBBON CUTTING.

THE CEREMONY GOING AFTER EACH OTHER.

BEEN FUNNY.

IT'S KIND OF SAD.

>> BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC, I WANT TO PASS ALONG SAD NEWS THAT WE LOST AT THE AGE OF 97 TOM LONG WHO SPENT 38 YEARS WITH THE ST. LOUIS FIRE DEPARTMENT INCLUDING TH HE DIED THIS PAST WEEK.

WE WANT TO SEND OUR CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY.

LET'S MOVE IT WILL BE WENDY WIESE.

ALSO, THIS WEEK THE UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI PLAYED AT THE DOME IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS AGAINST ME THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

HOWEVER, ON SOCIAL MEDIA AFTERWARDS, PEOPLE COMPLAINED THAT THE PLACE WAS FIL WAS DARK AND THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH EMPLOYEE TO SELL FOOD AND GET PEOPLE IN THE DOOR AND T FIELD LOOKED REALLY BAD.

AFTERWARD, ST. LOUIS BUSINESS JOURNAL REPORTED CONVE OFFICIALS WILL TRY TO BUY NEW TURF FOR THE NEXT GAME.

THIS COMPARE GOING ON IN KANSAS CITY WHERE TAYLOR SWIFT TO WATCH HER BOYFRIEND PLAY.

CITIES WHEN IT CAME TO FOOTBALL MATCHES.

WEEKEND.

WE'VE BEEN ON TOP, COMPARE AND CONTRAST THE ST. LOUIS-KANSAS CITY THING.

WE'VE BO TIME.

IS THAT CI YES, THEY ARE.

SOME OF THE TWITTER VERSE OR THE X VERSE, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, THE POST OR THE TWEETS OR THE Xs WERE ABSOLUTELY HYSTERICAL.

THEY WERE COMPARING THE TURF IN THE DOME TO THE BRADY BUNCH'S BACKYARD SAYING IT LOOKED WORSE.

THAT JEFF FISHER WAS THE LAST PERSON TO WALK ON THE TURF AT THE DOME.

WE WANT TO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE STILL A TOP TIER CITY.

I THOUGHT WE KIND OF PROVED STAN KROENKE'S POINT.

>> A FRANCHISE HAD BEEN THERE AND 38,000 PEOPLE GOING TO SOME OF THE GAMES.

WHAT WE LEARNED WAS, T TWO SETS OF FOOTBALL GAME.

THERE WAS A CROWD THAT SHOWED UP AT THE MISSOURI GAME AND S THIS PLACE IS A DUMP, REMEMBER I BROUGHT THIS UP.

THE BATTLE HAWKS PEOPLE WERE LIKE, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THERE AND PLUS IT'S A DUMP.

>> IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A SURPRISE.

THE RAMS, I ALWAYS FELT THAT DOME WAS COSMETICALLY CHALLENGED CHALLENGED.

PRISON.

GOT A TOUR, AT EXPLORE ST. LOUIS.

I KNOW IT'S NO TO SAY ON THE SHOW, OUR FA HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL AND AS FAR AS SPORTING EVENTS GO, I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING THE THINGS NOT ONLY COSMETICALLY BUT TO MAKE THE PLACE SAFE FOR ATHLETES.

BECAUSE WE CAN AND WILL HOST FOOTBALL GAMES AND OTHER SPORTING SOMETIMES HIGH SCHOOL BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE'S MORE GOING ON AND MORE POTENTIAL FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER THAN >> I JUST THINK THAT MY MONEY SPENT ON THE TURF FOR A CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A FOOTBALL TEAM IS NOT MONEY WISELY SPENT.

ONCE A YEAR, TWICE A YEAR.

SOMEBODY GOES TO PLAY THIS.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY IMPROVING THE TURF.

I WOULDN'T DO IT.

>> THE WHOLE USF AND THE XF IT RESURRECT THE BATTLE HAWK SITUATION, IS IT SUPPOSED TO?

>> BY THE MERGER, I GUESS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL ELIMINATE TEAMS.

BATTLE HAWKS.

I DO INVESTMENT IN THE TURF I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY'S PRIVATE INVESTMENT.

>> I AGREE.

>> THA >> DO NOT SETTLEMENT.

WHAT HAPPENS TO THE COSMETICS, I DON'T KNOW.

PURCHASE THE FIELD.

>> BILL McCLELLAN, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

ABOUT AIRBNB.

WHERE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF GOING TO A HOTEL, NIGHTS INSIDE SOMEONE'S CONDO IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.

THE PROBLEM IS RESULTED INCLUDING GUNFIRE AND POT SMOKING AND LOUD P TOO MANY YOUNGSTERS CROWDING INTO APARTMENTS.

THE NEIGHBORS DOWNTOWN DON'T CA NOW THEY'RE CRAFTING A BILL AT CITY HALL WHICH WOULD REGULATE THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

IN NEW YORK THEY THEY ARE REQUIRING THE PROPERTY TO BE THERE FOR ANY SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

DO YOU THI ADOPT THAT IN ST. LOUIS?

>> YES.

IT NOT ONLY CAN IMPACT THE NEIGHBOR VERY POORLY WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU HAVE NEXT DOOR, ACROSS THE STREET, SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND PARTIES.

IT'S NOT IT HURTS ANYTHING THAT HURTS PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO BUY THEIR FIRST HOME.

WHEN YOU HAVE INVESTORS CO IN AND BUYING PLACES AND G I'M GOING TO USE THIS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA.

IT'S BAD FOR ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND AIRBNB IS A GOOD >> THE SPOKE PER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE FOR NEIGHB HE WAS SAYING THAT IT'S NOT GOING FAR ENOUGH WITH THE ALDERMANIC BILL.

>> SEE MEASURE THAT THE ALDERMEN ARE TALKING ABOUT.

IF SQUARE, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THERE'S A SHORT-TERM RENTAL NEXT DOOR.

IT'S NOT A GOOD THING FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD.

TERRIBLE THING FOR DOWNTOWN.

>> WHEN YOU THINK OF ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT RESI FACING TODAY TO ADD THIS TO THE LIST AND TO ESSENTIALLY, TO IMPLY THAT YOU'RE SIDING WITH AIRBNB, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE FOR ASSOCIATION, MR. PONA THEY WANT AIRBNB TO BE HELD MORE ACCOUNTABLE.

>> I DON FELLOW FOUNDER ON THE SHARING ECONOMY IS.

THAT'S W I COULDN'T AGREE WITH AS TO DOWNTOWN.

WHICH I THINK THERE ARE PLAC >> WHAT ABOUT SOULARD?

>> EVERYBODY ELSE NOT DOWNTOWN?

>> I DON'T THINK AIRBNBs SHOULD BE OUTLAWED.

THE LARGER ISSUE DOWNTOWN, I DO AGREE, IT'S NOT THE PLACE FOR THEM BECAUSE NOT ONLY HOTEL INDUSTRY -- >> THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND EITHER.

THINK FOCUS ISN'T ON DOWNTOWN.

THE PROBLEM IS THE RESIDENTS CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT THE CITY GOVERNMENT AND THAT INCLUDES THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN, THEY ARE NOT VIEWED WITH RESPECT.

YOU GOT RESIDENT.

THESE THINGS LIKE A LIQUOR LICENSE.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT.

>> UNTIL THEN, NO.

THAT'S EVERYWHERE.

>> HANG ON A SECOND, I LIKE WHAT NEW YORK IS DOING.

>> I DO TOO.

>> WHAT NEW YORK IS TH E OW SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

ENACT THAT LAW.

IF WE DON'T, THERE'S MORE DRAMATIC ACTION THAT YOU CAN TAKE TO BRING TH CONTROL.

ISN'T IT FUNNY THAT HE'S PEOPLE RENT OUT THEIR HOMES TO PEOPLE THEY WOULDN'T BE CAUGHT DEAD WITH.

>> LOT OF IT IS JUST INVESTORS BUYING THESE PROPERTIES NOT TO LIVE IN BUT, IT'S A PROPERTY.

THAT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT.

I'LL BE MAKING MONEY OFF THE PROPERTIES.

>> IF I BECAME 1 THEY NEEDED AN OWNER TO BE AT THE PARTY HOUSE, HEY.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> RAY HARTMANN.

I WANT TO AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

BILL OF RIGHTS.

PRESIDENT BOARD OF ALDERMAN.

IT WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE HOMELESS, THEY GOT TO FIND SOME PLACE FOR TO YOU STAY.

YOU IF YOU HAVE STUFF AND PO INSIDE TO A BED, THERE HAS TO BE SPLICE IN -- SOME PLACE IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WHERE YOU CAN PUT UP A TENT AN WITH SECURITY, RUNNING WATER, A SHOWER AND BATHROOM FACILITIES.

YOU LIKE THIS BILL OF RIGHTS?

>> GOOD FOR MEGAN GREEN.

THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS.

THESE ARE ST. LOUISANS.

THEY ARE AMERICAN AND MISSOURIANS.

A SOCIETY IS FOR SO MANY OF THEM, MENTAL HEALTH IS AN ISSUE.

WE COULD NOT BE DOING LESS TO ADDRESS THE CAUSES OF MENTAL HEALTH.

THE SOLUTION.

THERE' WE ALL KNOW THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFICULTIES.

IT SHOULD START AND END -- THERE'S A CASE WITH THE SUPREME COURT ON THIS -- IT REALLY TO START AND END WITH THE PREMISE THAT THESE ARE ST. LOUISANS AND MISSOURI AND AMERICANS AND TH CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE ADDRESS THE CAUSES OF WHY SO MANY OF THEM ARE THERE.

WHICH IS MENTAL HEALTH.

WE NEED TO STOP VILIFYING THEM AND CRIMINALIZING THEM.

>> I ALWAYS SUPPORTED TH ATTITUDES IF YOU BUY A HOME SOMEWHERE NEXT TO THE HOMELESS SHELTER, YOU SHOULDN'T COMPLAIN AB BUT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE PUTTING THINGS NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE OR NEIGHBORHOODS.

I WROTE LONG AGO BACK WHEN NEW LIFE WAS GETTING BOUNCED OUT IN DOWNTOWN, WE OUGHT TO BUILD DORMITORIES DOWN BY THE RIVER JUST NORTH OF DOWNTOWN.

IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.

THE PEOPLE -- THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS HOUSE DOWN THERE.

YOU HAVE A TRANSPORTATION AND WE COULD PROVIDE SERVICES FOR PEOPLE THERE AND IT WOULDN'T BE FANCY BUT IT WILL BE SECURE AND COMFORTABLE.

BUILD SOME THINGS FOR THE HOMELESS PEOPLE AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO GO TO A SHELTER A PLACE.

>> I DON'T THE CRIMINALIZING CATEGORY.

I HAVE DEEP EMPATHY.

IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S A BILL OF RIGHTS FOR EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE WHO EVERY MORNING AND TRY TO RAISE A FAMILY AND TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

THEY NEED.

MEANWHILE, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO GET A CRAZY AIRBNB NEXT DOOR.

MEANWHILE, THE HOMELESS HAVE A BILL OF RIGHTS.

YOU'RE GOING TO HELP PAY FOR IT.

I SCRATCH MY HEAD.

I'M DRAWING UP THE HOMELES OF RIGHTS.

>> THAT'S WHY MAYOR JONES IS DISTANCING HERSELF AND SAYING, WAIT A MINUTE.

BECAUSE, IF YOU TWIN THIS STORY WITH A SHORT-TERM RENTAL STORY, IF I'M INTERESTED IN CITY LIFE, THEN I'M LOOKING AT THESE TWO STORIES THINKING, WAIT A MINUTE, THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT HARD AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN ON THE TAX PAYING CITIZENS.

TO BE A SOLUTION THAT WILL WORK FOR EVERYBODY.

WHO ARE TRYING TO BUILD UP THE NEIGHBORHOODS AGAIN SO THAT WE ARE HAVING OUR SHINY TIME IN THE SUN.

THE BILL OF RIGHTS GUARANTEES SECURITY FOR CAMPING OUT.

THIS W THIRD STRAIGHT, THERE WERE NO POLI WHERE IS THE SECURITY FOR THE TAX PAYING RESIDENTS WHO ARE -- I WILL SAY, BILL WITH YOUR IDEA, I WONDER HOW MANY GUYS OR GALS WILL WANT TO GO THERE?

THEY WANT TO BRING THEIR PETS, CAN'T BRING ALCOHOL OR DRUGS.

>> YOU BRING UP SOME GOOD POINTS, CHARLIE.

YOU COULD HAVE ONE OF THE DORMS THAT WAS COED.

I DON'T SEE WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED.

I HAVEN'T GIVE THIS A GREAT DEAL OF THOUGHT.

I MIGH >> WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THIS WEEK WAS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE RAMS SETTLEMENT.

YOU REMEMBER THE ST. LOUIS AREA GOT A BOAT LOAD OF MONEY, ALMOST $800 MILLION IN NOVEMBER 2021.

IT WAS DIVIDED BETWEEN THE REGIONAL SPORT AUTHORITY I BELI CITY AND THE LAWYERS TOOK 35%.

HAVING THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING HOW THAT MONEY SHOULD BE ARE THINGS GOING SO WELL IN ST. LOUIS THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY?

FULL LOOK AND SAY, THEY ARE BEING THOUGHTFUL.

I THINK TH SO CRYING FOR IMMEDIATE HELP.

LIKE THE 911 SYSTEM THEY ARE WORKING ON THESE THINGS.

MAY BE NOT QUICK ENOUGH.

WHEN THE CITY TALKS ABOUT, WE LIKE TO DO SOMETHING TRANSFORMATIONAL, I I ROLL MY EYES A LITTLE BI >> I ROLL MY EYES A LOT.

AS COLUMNIST -- THERE'S MANY COLUMNIST I WRITTEN WHERE I DIDN'T GIVE MUCH THOUGHT TO.

ONE OF THOUGH, I REMEMBER NOVEMBER '21, ALMOST COMING ON THE TWO-YEAR MARK WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED AND WE'RE GETTING THIS MONEY.

IS WRONG WITH THIS TOWN.

IT'S REALLY PATHETIC.

ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, THE ONE PERSON THAT'S LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE TRIPLED OUR INVESTMENT.

WE SPENT QUARTER BILLION DECLARES TO STEAL THE RAMS.

I LIKE TO LOOK THE BIG PICTURE.

WE INVESTED QUOTER PHYSICAL DOLLARS.

WE ENDED UP $790 BILLION.

OUT A PENNY OF IT.

>> MAY BE THEY ARE JUST BEING THOUGHTFUL.

I THINK YOU SHOULD HAV PUBLIC MEETINGS.

I'M SETTING THE DEADLINE.

IT'S NEW YEAR'S EVE.

JANUARY 1, 2025T I'M NOW IN OFFICE WHY THEIR HEADS CATEGORY.

BUT THE COUNTY HASN'T MADE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH THE MONEY.

>> YOU RUN FOR AN OFFICE, RUN THE OFFICE.

SIT DOWN WIT CHECKLIST, 911, GONE, OVER.

NEXT.

MONEY OVER TO THE GOVERNMENT.

>> IN MAY 2022 WE LOST A PEDESTRIAN IN FRONT OF TED DREW.

THAT CROSSWALK HAS NEVER BEEN PUT IN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THE DELAY.

NOW THERE'S 24 TENTS UNDERNEATH THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR AT CITY HALL.

EVERYDAY AND ASK -- >> YOU MADE SUCH GOOD POINT ABOUT, WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE EVERYTHING TO THE HOMELESS.

>> THE MAYOR IS KIND OF LIKE, >> YOU CAN SEND UP YOUR THOUGHTS.

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