>>> TIME FOR DONNYBROOK, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

TALK TO THE PANELISTS AND MEET THEM.

WE THE JENNIFER AND WENDY SHOW.

RAY HARTMANN.

AND THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, ALVIN REID.

WELL, WHO' ALVIN, HOPE YOU HAD A WONDERFUL BIRTHDAY.

>> YESTERDAY WAS PRODUCTION DAY FOR THE NEWSPAPE >> NO REST FOR THE WICKED.

>> WEDNESDAY, YEAH.

IT WAS ABOUT THE PAPER.

>> SINCE WE MET LAST WEEK, UNFORTUNATELY, TRAGICALLY CITY JAIL.

TH WE DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THIS ONE.

BUT THE CITIZENS SAID THEY'VE BEEN WARNING THE CITY THERE COULD BE TROU THIS GENTLEMAN AND THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO GET IN TH ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD WAS ARRESTED THIS WEEK WHEN SHE WAS TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT TH OVERSIGHT BOARD, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO SEE THE OPERA JAIL HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO TOUR THE JAIL.

TH THE PAST ALIGNED WITH THE MA WHO ARE CRITICAL WITH THE JAIL OPERATIONS, IS THIS GOING TO BE A WATER LOO FOR MAYOR JONES, HAS THIS ISSUE GOTTEN SO BAD THIS COULD BRING HER DOWN?

>> NO, BUT T SIMPLY NO.

FA AND ALSO, I THINK THAT W CONDITIONED OURSELVES TO ACTUALLY BELIEVING THAT THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT US, SHOULD AGREE WITH EVERYTHING I DO, AND THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP IN THIS MESS THAT WE ARE IN THE CITY AND THE NATION.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG SOMEONE WHO DON'T SUPPORT ME, ALVIN YOU'RE MESSING THIS UP, IT WON'T LEAD TO THEM NOT SUPPORTING ME WHEN I RUN FOR OFFICE.

YES, I THINK THE MAYOR WASH HER HAND OF THAT MESS AND CONSIDER CLOSING THAT THING DOWN.

>> THIS IS ATROCIOUS.

THE MAYOR'S FAULT.

THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY, PREDATED THE MAYOR.

BUT SHE WAS THE ONE WHO WANTED TRANSPARENCY IN THE JAIL.

AND NOW, HER PEOPLE WON'T LET THE OVERSIGHT, HER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IN THE JAIL.

>> THAT'S -- I'M SORRY.

>> I AGREE I PEOPLE REELECTED KIM, AND THEY'LL REELECT THE MAYOR.

>> HER VOTERS ARE LOYAL TO THE EXTREME AND DEFINITIVELY EVERYBODY BELIEVES THAT YOU HAVE A TRAGIC SITUATION AT THE JAIL.

UNTIL -- YOU WONDER WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO TURN THINGS AROUND AND LIKE SAN PAGE, WHO PROMISED TRANSPARENCY AFTER STEVE, MAYOR JONES HAS PROMISED TRANSPARENCY ON THAT AND NOT DELIVERED.

SURPRISED.

THINK THIS COULD BE A BIG PROBLEM FOR HER POLITICALLY.

ELECTION IS IN A COUPLE YEARS, WAY OFF.

IT'S THE OTHER WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

ELECTION WAS TOMORROW.

AND THE BIG IS OBVIOUSLY THE SITUATION IS HORRIBLE IN BEEN FOREVER.

WHAT'S UNBELIEVABLE AND INEXPLICABLE, THE HOSTILITY THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO OVERSIGHT.

THEY'RE NOT JUST NOT CAPTORIVE, THEY'RE -- COOPERATIVE, THE OVERSIGHT PEOPLE ARE NOT PROPERLY TRAINED BY THE PEOP THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO OVERSEE, AND NOW THEY'RE ARRESTING THEM.

THIS IS NOT OKAY.

THEY HAVE TO START R THE ROLE OF THE OVERSIGHT >> OF ALL THE PEOPLE YOU LISTED, THE PRESIDENT, ACLU, ARCH CITY, NAME ONE THAT'S NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE MAYOR WHEN THE ELECTION ROLLS AROUND.

>&g SHE WON ONE ELECTION.

WITHOUT A TREASURER, AND IT'S NOT THE MOST COMPLICATED POSITION.

THE JAIL, SHE GOT SUPPORT, IF SHE'S NOT GOING TO REFORM A JAIL, WHY WOULD YOU SUPPORT HER?

>> WHY NOT?

>> IT'S NOT JUST THE JAIL.

THERE'S 911, A COMPLETE DISASTER.

THE POTHOLES, NOT TO MENTION OTHER ISSUES LIKE CITY SERVICES.

CALL THE CITIZENS SERVICE BUREAU AND PEOPLE DON'T ANSWER.

>> BEFORE THERE'S AN TH E MAYOR STILL HAS A LOT OF MONEY.

AND IT SHOULD SPEND IT, AND I SUSPECT BEFORE THE ELECTION IT WILL BE.

>> TO ME, THE CONCERN I HAVE OF THE JAIL AND THE POLITICS, IT'S CERTAINLY SHE'S THE FAVORITE RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S RUNG HER -- RUNNING AGAINST HER.

>> CARA SPENCER.

>> THIS IS WAY EARLY.

TWO YEARS.

YEAH, IT IS.

>> THA DINNER.

>> CHANGE YOUR MIND?

RIGHT NOW SHE'S RUNNING.

&g WITH THE OVERSIGHT, TODAY PUBLIC SAFETY PROBLEM.

IT'S EASY TO S THIS AND THIS ABOUT THE JAIL.

FIXING THE PROBLEM OF THE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS NOT COMPLICATED.

WEEKS.

>> NOT ON THE OVERSIGHT AR E YOU KIDDING?

>> YOU'V FAULT OF THE CITY COUNSELOR.

>> WE COVERED THAT.

THE CITY COUNSELOR, WHO REPORTS TO THE MAYOR, THE PERSON WHO WENT TO THE FIRST OVERSIGHT MEETINGS AND ABSOLUTELY -- >> LET ME ASK WHO HAD THE MOMENT OF REST.

WHO CALLED AND SAID, ARREST THIS PERSON.

I WANT TO WHO SAID, COME GET HER ARRESTED.

>> NOT ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

>> I >> THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR THE SLPD.

>> I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, YES.

LOOK -- YOU HAVE A LEAVE DIFFERENT THAN YOU'RE UNDER ARREST.

REAR VIEW GARDENS IS HIRING 26 INTERNATIONAL TEACHERS TO TEACH IN THIS SCHOOL, THIS SCHOOL DISTRICTED WITH THE -- SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE TEACHERS FROM THE PHILIPPINES, AND SOUTH AFRICA.

THE WASHINGTON POSTED A LOOK OF INTERNATIONAL TEACHERS GOING IN TROUBLED SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THE CULTURE DIFFERENCES WERE SO STARK IT DID WILL IT WORK AT REAR VIEW GARDENS?

POSITIVE OUTCOME.

EVEN BEFORE READIN RESEARCH AND ABOUT THOSE STATISTICS, IT SEEMS CLEAR TO ANYONE WHO'S FAMILIAR THE PHILIPPINES OR SOME OF THE EAST AFRICAN AND WEST AFRICAN NATIO THAT'LL BE SENDING TEACHERS INTO RIVER VIEW GARDENS.

THESE CU AS OURS.

BU TIME THAT CULTURES HAVE BEEN NEEDED TO MESH.

BUT I DO THINK IN TERMS OF DISCIPLINE, IT'LL BE A REAL ISSUE.

PLAYS OUT.

YOU CAN WANT.

RI OPTIONS.

IT'S TRYING THIS ONE.

I'M SAYING, THAT I JUST DON'T WANT TO GENERALIZE BEYOND THAT UNTIL WE SEE WHAT THIS GROUP OF TEACHERS DOES WITH THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

A SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR WHATEVER REASON IS HE CANNILY TROUBLED HISTORICALLY TROUBLED, IT'S GOING TO BE ONE STUDENT ONE DAY AT A TIME.

PROCESS -- I'M SERIOUS.

>> ONE DAY AT A TI >> AND INFLUENCED BY RELIGION, THEY'RE -- SOCIETIES, I'M SAYING.

TO TRY SOMETHING.

>> >> OF ALL THINGS.

YEAH.

>> IT'LL BE A >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, HIRE 2020 IF FOUR WORK OUT, THAT'S FOUR YOU DIDN'T HAVE.

AND ALSO, ALL RIGHT, THE TEACHERS COMING ARE FROM OTHER NATIONS, BUT YOU HAVE A SCHOOL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU ARE DISCIPLINE PROBLEMS WITH B KIDS AND LOW ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE.

NONE OF US THAT, WHO IS.

THE PEOPLE WHO WHO ARE NOT FROM NORTH ST. LOUIS , ARE CULTURAL DIFFERENT.

WHAT MAKES US SO DIFFERENT?

WE'RE JUST AMERICANS?

MAYBE THIS WILL WORK.

>> IT COULD.

>> NOT A HUGE NUMBER SOUTHEAST ASIA, BUT I'VE KNOWN DIFFERENT PEOPLE, THEY'RE NOT THE SAME.

LIKE ANY KNOWL -- ANYONE ELSE, INDIVIDUALS.

I KNOW YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT, I'M SAYING, YOU CAN'T JUST ASSUME THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE INTERNATIO DIFFERENT CULTURE EACH ONE WILL BE DIFFERENT.

ENEMY.

SPEAKING OF EDUCATION, THE STATE OF MISSOURI'S DEPARTMENT OF SECONDARY EDUCATION.

NOW LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON SOCIAL-EMOTIONAL LEARNING STANDARDS.

I THAT ONE WOULD HAVE INSIDE THE CLASSROOM WHEN IT COMES TO BEHAVIORS AND ATTITUDES.

SOME ARE SAYING, NOW THA TEST SCORES ARE LOWER THAN THEY WERE PREPANDEMIC, WE SHOULD BE CONCENTRATING ON READING AND MATH AND NOT SOCIAL-EMOTIONAL LEARNING STANDAR WHAT DO >> I BE THE -- COMPLETE CHARGE OF THE CLASSROOM.

THE TEACHER SHOULD SEND THAT STUDENT TO THE PRINCIPAL AND IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN, THE SCHOOL SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUSPEND THE KID.

IF I SUPERINTENDENT, LAWYERS, GET READY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT U THIS.

THIS I NOW, I THINK I AM AGAINST IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE DOCTOR, THE HEAD OF DESE IS IN FAVOR OF IT.

AGAINST IT.

AND IF S IT.

THAT SHE THOUGHT JOSH OF THE POST DISPATCH WAS A CRIMINAL BECAUSE HE CALLED TO TELL THEM ONE OF THEIR WEBSITES WAS EXPOSING TEACHER'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND THE GOVE CRIMINAL.

LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT COMPUTERS WAS CHARMING.

BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT THE DOCT KNOWS SOMETHING OF THE COMPUTERS.

MAD, AND EVER SINCE, WHATEVER SHE'S FOR I'LL BE AGAINST.

>> THE REPORTER WAS A HERO.

THAT'S THE CRAZY THING.

THEY DIDN'T SAY HE HAD BROKEN A FEW RULES, HE WAS A CRIMINAL.

HE WAS A HERO CALLING -- >> I'M AFRAID IF THE GOVERNOR SAYS TOMORROW, THE EARTH IS FLAT, SHE'LL SAY, WE'LL TEACH THAT.

>> IF YOU READ THIS STORY AND WE CERTAINLY ALL UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT TEACHER RETENT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE SUCCESS WITH READING, WRITING AN WITHOUT THE TEACHERS.

BUT THE TEACHERS CAN WANT CONTROL THE CLASSR A -- CAN'T CONTROL THE CLASSROOM, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.

THE TALKS OF HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT, THE STUDENTS, TEACHERS AND STUDENTS.

WHERE ARE THE PARENTS?

WE'RE PUTTING EVERYTHING INTO THROWING EVERYTH OF THE TEACHERS.

WE'RE NOT HOLDING THE CHILDREN RESPONSIBLE.

THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

IF THE CHILD IS OUT OF CON THE PARENTS NEED TO BE CALLED IN.

DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT MODERN LIFE.

HERE WEDNESDAY.

PART OF THIS IS, YOU'RE A STUDENTED AND LIVING IN A CAR, AND HUNGRY, NO FOOD IN THE OR WHATEVER, YOU'RE DEALING WITH YOU CAN'T LEARN.

WE HAVE TO ADDRESS S BEFORE THIS KID CAN ACTUALLY -- >> I THINK THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF THE KIDS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>&g >> I DON NUMBER.

BUT IT'S A LARGER NUMBER -- >> THAN WE PROBABLY LIKE.

>> THAT'S THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

TH TAKE CONTROL OF THAT.

I AGREE.

I'M READY TO LOC >> PUT THE PARENTS IN JAIL.

AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, THE PARENTS HAVE GOT TO BE PART OF A SOLUTION.

COURSE, I HATE TO ARGUE WITH YOU.

>> RANT?

>> YOUR PO >> THE THINGS.

>> THE POLICIES.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE POLICIES ABOUT ME, SO I UNDERST I THINK THAT SEEMS TO ME, I FEEL WHEN I MAKE THE -- MAYBE IT'S CONFIRMATION.

I GETTING INVOLVED IT COMES BACK TO ME SOME LEVEL OF DISRESPECT FOR TEACHERS.

AND ALWAYS A SOLUT TEACHERS.

PAID VASTLY MORE FOR TEACHERS.

>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

DEAN IS THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE IN JEFFERSON CITY FOR THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

I BELIEVE HE'S RUNNING FOR SECRETARY OF STATE.

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT COMMENTS HE MADE THAT WERE PUBLISHED IN THE WASHINGTON EXAMINER.

HE LOOKED AT THE UPCOMING LEGISLATURE SESSION FOR THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, FOCUS ON TWO ST. LOUIS ISSUES.

ONE IS CRIME AND THE EARNING TAX, THE RESIDENTS AND WORKERS IN THE CITY HAVE TO WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?

>> HE USED TO BE, SORT OF THE ERA OF THE SCHMIDT STORY.

I THINK I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THAT'S THE OPPOSITE SPEAKING.

THERE'S SO MUCH A SIGN OF THE TIMES.

STATE OFFICE, AND MOVE TO THE RIGHT.

IS GONE, CAN FIND THE RIGHT THING.

THE EARNING TAX.

TO ME, REPRESENTS OF THE BUDGET FOR THE CITY.

AND THE IDEA, I HAPPEN TO THINK, WE ALL PAY IT.

WE ALL LIVE IN THE COUNTY.

IT'S APPROPRIATELY REASONABLE TAX THAT PEOPLE USE THE SERVICES OF THE CITY, PAY FOR FIRE AND POLICE.

THE FACT IS, WE HAVE TO SUPP THE CITY.

NO ONE HAS A PLACE TO BLOW IT UP.

AND IT'S JUST -- >> IF I'M LIKE JOE, I AG REE WITH YOU TO SOME EXTENT, IT MIGHT GO AWAY.

IT'S LITIGATED, AND SOME COURT SAYS, WORKING REMOTELY FROM A COMPANY IF ST. LOUIS , I DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT THREE MONTH PERIOD, THE EARNING TAX ANYMORE THAN THE CARDINALS HAVE TO PLAY AT YANKEES STADIUM OR FENWAY PARK.

IF THE COURTS THROW IT OUT -- >> WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.

>> IT COULD HAPPEN.

DON'T YOU THINK WE THE DISCUSSION NOW?

>> BUT THE DISCUSSION HOW TO REPLACE THE MONEY.

>> HE WANTS THE WHOLE PL GO BROKE.

>> GOOD FAITH.

>> PEOPLE HAVE CRI EARNING TAX FOREVER.

BUT NOBODY REALLY COMES UP WITH HERE'S HOW TO REPLACE IT.

WE HAD SENATOR BILL ON, AND HE WANTS TO GET RID OF PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.

HOW DO YOU REPLACE IT?

WE'LL CUT WASTE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A HUGE CHUNK OUT OF THE CITY'S INCOME, HERE'S HOW IT'S REPLACED.

>> I HOPE SOMEONE DOES CUT WASTE.

EVERY TIME I LOOK TROLLEY.

>> $2 MILLION RI >> THOSE ARE FEDERAL DOLLARS.

>> YOU WANT TO CUT WASTE, WA OF TO HIM AND ENERGY IS THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, SAYING, WE'LL DO SOMETHING ABOUT CRIME OKAY, WHAT WILL YOU DO?

>> MORE GUNS >> THEY DO, AND THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT CRIME, BUT DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT -- >> WHAT'S THE PLAN?

WHAT'S YOUR PLAN?

>> THEY DON'T RESPECT, NO RESPECT FOR CITY OFFICIALS, AND EVEN POLICE.

IT'S TO TH >> THE OVERSIGHT?

THE WHOLE JAIL OVERSIGHT, SAME THING.

THE PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN, KNOWING WHAT THEY OUGHT TO DO ABOUT IT.

>> I'M SURPRISED THAT NONE OF YOU MENTIONED THAT VOTERS VOTE ON IT EVERY FIVE YEARS.

>> THE LANDSCAPE IS CHANGED SINCE WORKING REMOTELY.

>> ALVIN REID, YOU ARE OR USED TO BE IN A PREVIOUS LIFE, A MEMBER OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION.

>&g >> IT TURNS SWIMMING IN THE KIRKWOOD OUTDOOR POOL.

SHOULD BE OPEN IN SEPTEMBER, BECAUSE SEPTEMBERS ARE W NOW.

CITIES OF TORONTO, CANADA, WASHINGTON, DC, BOULDER, COLORADO, AND MANY OTHER FORWARD LOOKING CITIES.

>> BOULDER HAS M JUST POURING IN.

NO, WE HAVE TWO DOG DAYS, NOW ONE.

ESPECIALLY LIKE A TEENAGER OR LIFE GUARDS GO BACK TO NOW ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.

IT COSTS MONEY TO ANOTHER MONTH.

I THINK TH WHEN THEY DO THE FACT THAT THE DOGS GET DAYS TO SWIM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

>> I THINK THAT, I KNOW IN THE CLAYTON POOL.

I AM SURE IF YOU ASKED THE CLAYTON MAYOR SHE'LL SAY, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO KEEP IT OPEN.

>> JUST FOR CHARLIE.

>> A FEW PEOPLE LAST SWIMMERS, CAN HAVE ANOTHER MONTH.

>> THE LAP SWI UNIVERSITY CITY AND MAPLEWOOD AND CHOOSE A POOL.

ROTATE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

SO THE ATHLETIC COMMUNITIES, MANY BENEFITS TO SWIMMING, OF COURSE.

WEEKS.

DIPPING IN THE 50'S OVERNIGHT.

>> A SWIMMER DOESN'T MIND.

>> I'M WITH CH >> DOGS DON'T MIND.

>> DON'T INTERRUPT THIS -- >> I'M WITH CHARLIE.

OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE HAS A SID FOR THEMSELVES, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC CLOSURE.

>> HOW ABOUT T >> EVERYONE CAN DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES.

REASONABLE IDEA TO KEEP -- AND ALSO KEEP THEM OPEN FOR PEOPLE, TOO.

I THINK THAT -- I THINK ON A CITY BY CITY BASIS.

>> CLAYTON HAS KEPT ITS POOL OPEN THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

>> THEY'RE CUTTING BACK.

>> I THINK EACH CITY HAS TO DECIDE FOR ITSELF.

>> DO YO APPEALING TO POEM WHO LIKE THE -- PEOPLE WHO LIKE THE OUTDOORS AND THE ACTIVE LIFESTYLE TO COME HERE?

>> I DON'T THINK KIRKWOOD CARE WHEN IT CLOSES.

>> YOU'RE ACTIVE NOT JUST IN THE SWIMMING LANES.

>> MONTH FOR SWIMMING.

ASK A LAP SWIMMER.

>> WHAT'S WRONG -- CAN'T YO SWIM INDOORS?

>> SWIMMING INDOORS RUNNING INDOORS, VERSUS OUTDOORS OUTDOORS.

>> WHY WOULD IT BE AUTOMATICALLY?

THE WHY WOULD IT BE SUCH A BAD THING?

QUESTION OF FINANCE.

SHOULD IT BE OPEN -- >> I HAVE A FEELING THAT CLAYTON COULD HANDLE IT.

>> I DON'T.

I DON'T THINK THEY'LL DO IT.

CLAYTON IS AN ENLIGHTENED PLACE.

THEY HAVE MONEY.

ON A HOCKEY THAT WAS NOT BUILT.

>> YOU PAID TO HAVE YOUR TRASH PICKED UP FOR THE LAST 75 YEARS.

PAY FOR SERVICES AND PROBABLY HAVE MORE SERVICE.

>> WE ARE PAYING SERVICES NO >> WE NEED THE DOG FROM THE COMMERCIAL.

FIND OUT WHAT THE VIEWERS HAD TO SAY OF LAST WEEK'S PROGRAM.

I AGREE WITH THE FINAL COMMENT BY RAY HARTMANN, THAT YOU WOULD DO THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS AN ALL OF US LONG TIME COMMITTED RESIDENTS A GREAT SERVICE BY CEASEINGLY WHIP UP FEARS ABOUT CRIME IN THE CITIES.

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