Pau Hana Years, a new day for older Americans,  a time for living your host, Bob Barker.

Bob Barker: Hi and welcome to the program for  and by the senior citizens of Hawaiʻi.

Well,   a month ago, we were saluting a long time Pau  Hana Years friend, when we ran out of time.

Today,   we continue that tribute to Eleanor Heavey.

(Singing) Paʻu Riders of Hawaiʻi is a sight for   everyone to see.

High upon the holo lio reminds  me of the grandeur of past aliʻi.

Lei lei maile   and ililma adorn their kino graciously.

Feathered  hats and flowing gowns where or where can these   be found?

The Paʻu Riders of Hawaiʻi.

Paʻu Riders  of Hawaiʻi is a sight for everyone to see.

High up   on their holo lio reminds me of the grandeur of  past aliʻi.

Lei lei maile and ililma adorn their   kino graciously.

Feathered hats and flowing gowns,  where or where can these be found?

The Paʻu Riders   of Hawaiʻi eʻo, The Paʻu Riders of Hawaiʻi.

BB: Paʻu RIders of Hawaiʻi.

Elleanor,   were you ever a Paʻu Rider?

EH: Never.

BB: Did you ever ride horses at all?

EH: Yes, my grandfolks in Kohala.

That's where   my mother's people come from.

They have two, three  horses all the time, and that's the only kind of   transportation we had on Kohala.

BB: Oh, you rode bareback,   of course.

Or did you have saddles?

EH: No, we had saddles.

And whenever   we fooled around in the fields, we  rode bareback, but never into town.

BB: Well, now, on that last program, we mentioned  your 26 years with the City Parks Department,   and seven of which you spent working  with senior citizens.

What type of   work did you do with the senior citizens?

EH: Lots of things, Bob.

First of all,   when I got there, was to know them and to have  them know me.

Then when I became aware of some   of the talents and skills they had, and they  weren't showing it off.

So I began to pump them,   bring them out from their shell, take away  shyness, and got a I got them a little bolder,   and I gained quite a lot from them.

A lot of  things that they they thought it was useless,   was very handy and, oh, so many, many things.

You know, the most pitiful part, I think,   was that when they spent all of their lives,  it was against their their tradition to wear   bright colors, to have their hair fixed, to  put Rouge and lipstick.

It was a sin.

See,   that was one word that I didn't like when I was  a young kid.

Everything was sin to wear lipstick,   to wear rouge, to fix your hair up.

And after  living all these years, the things that was   sinful then is no more today.

BB: Np, certainly not.

EH: And I tell them, you look pretty when  you go to the beauty parlor and have your   hair fixed and put a little Rouge and lips and  you look alive.

We're not dead yet.

This is   what I tell them all.

And I've been getting,  been able to get their talents, their skill,   their their recipes.

I'm not much of a cook,  Bob, but I love eating their food.

Oh, those   senior citizens are just beautiful people.

BB: Well, you did do some instructing,   didn't you?

In craft work or things like that?

EH: Yes, I taught them art, painting, batik,   went into batik, went into macrame.

Now this  is the latest type of art, and they were used   to making paper flowers and flowers out of  some kind of a material.

So I all I did was,   instead of making flowers for a vase or abouquet,  put those flowers into leis, into hat leis,   and they were just lovely.

And then later on,  taught them a little bit of the the good colors,   to combine colors, which they lacked in, and how  to use your paints, what colors to use, and that   sort of thing.

Music, went into music, ʻukulele.

BB: You did a lot of music work with them,   didn't you?

EH: Yes.

BB: Yes, you In fact, you started a  lot of musical groups, didn't you?

EH: Yes, when I got there, when I got over to  Makualiʻi they had lot of instruments that was   just lying on the shelf.

And I believe there's  too many instruments lying on the shelf.

So took   them all out, gave them to the seniors, got a band  going.

And whenever they had a band of their own,   all I did was come in and encourage it and then  polish it.

That's why we had quite a lot of   different groups coming in to perform.

This gave  them confidence their costuming, they took pride   in that.

This is, words cannot express, and I'm  not one to put it down in book.

It happened and   this is joy to me.

This is what's happening  today, popping up, and this is my downfall,   probably, for not putting it in paper.

BB: Yes, now if you could wave a magic wand,   what types of problems or troubles  that seniors have would you alleviate?

EH: Used to make me awfully sad, Bob, when a  lot of sickness, and most of them were real,   and especially arthritis, oh, I used  to just break my heart.

If I could,   if I could, illness would be the thing I would  take away from their life.

Health is the most   precious thing to have.

And of course, I've  been hearing about acupuncture, and I've got,   I've got telephone numbers, so when I see them  too much, they've been taking too many pills,   and it's not helping them up.

Why not try  acupuncture?

Why not live a year in good   health if it means getting couple of needles in  you?

Now maybe I'm wrong, but I've had seniors   come back who had arthritis of their fingers,  like this here, and after five treatments,   are able to move it back and forth for the first  time for 25 years, when I see with my own eyes,   that is a must.

Why stay sick for one month, one  week, one day?

Why suffer with this arthritis   when there is something somewhere around in this  earth here and this island here that can help you?

BB: Did you get as much satisfaction working with  the seniors as you did when you worked with the...  EH: Children?

BB: ...yougsters,   the children in the Parks Department work?

EH: Bob, it's joy right through whether   they're tiny tots or 100,000 years old.

It's just joy all the way.

It's been a ball,   to me.

It's been a ball.

BB: Well, now, Eleanor,   we'd like to hear another number, and this time  we'd like to have a number on the autoharp.

Can   you do something for us?

What would it be?

EH: I must tell you that this, "Treasure on   the Shoreline," also came that girl over  there, Aina Keawe.

That's the girl that   always puts a bug in my ear.

This is Eleanor.

Why don't you try putting a song for this   project here?

And this is how it came out.

(Singing) There are treasures along the   shoreline.

There are riches we can find.

bits of  coral, seaweeds, and shapely things as we walk   on the sand by the sea.

A floating glass ball, a  puka puka driftwood, a lonely slipper, a shell or   two.

These are treasures along the shoreline.

As  we walk on the sand by the sea.

With your hand in   mind, we walk the golden sand with you by my side,  watch the turning tide.

And the setting sunset   waves us goodbye.

These are treasures along the  shoreline as we walk on the sand by the sea.

As   we walk, walk on the sand by the sea.

BB: Eleanor, would you   introduce your friends to us?

EH: Oh yes, with pleasure, our lone   meal is Mr. Charles Chu from Kāneʻohe.

Alongside  is Aina Keawe, Supervisor of the Hawaiiana Unit.

BB: Oh yes.

EH: Mealiʻi Kalama of district number two,   and Adeline Lee, the most gorgeous, beautiful  soprano singer of the recreation department.

She's also with the Hawaiian, Hawaiiana Unit.

BB: Eleanor, you play the piano, the ʻukulele,   the autoharp.

When did you first take up music?

EH: Oh, Bob, that's a story.

Mama used to go to   the second hand store down in Kakaʻako.

I wonder if Mr. Murato is still living.

He owned a second hand store.

And I was  a little girl about five, six years old,   and she went to look for something.

But I always  go look for a piano that he had way stuck in the   corner covered with cobwebs.

And do you know how  it feels for someone who loved music to just touch   the ivory?

And that was the beginning of me.

So my  uncle, he was a young guy, about 19, 20 years old,   he bought a Pianola when he couldn't play it, mama  took it over, and he landed in our house, and we   had a Pianola.

And from that Pianola, I learned  to press on the chords.

I didn't know the name   of the chords, but I was playing it.

And my first  number was Liliu E, which was just two changes.

BB: You were playing by ear then?

EH: By ear, right.

I didn't know the name   of the chords.

And then there was a fellow by the  name of Scully.

And he owned, he ran, he had a an   orchestra.

So he he was the one.

He says, Eleanor,  come and join my, I was just about 14 then.

Says,   come and join my, my orchestra.

I says, I don't  know nothing about he says, Oh, I've heard you   play.

I had that real razzmatazz style.

So it was  through him that I learned the chords he says,   You're hitting C Eleanor, and I didn't know that.

Then all the chords I was playing it, but I didn't   know the names.

So today I know all of the names.

BB: But did you ever take formal lessons?

EH: Never.

BB: Oh.

EH: The household didn't have money.

You either  learn what you want to learn and steal.

What,   I stole knowledge.

BB: Yes, uh huh.

EH: I stole knowl...

Yes, I actually watch people  when I was stealing their kno...I couldn't go   to school, couldn't afford to pay for piano  lessons and all of that.

And I had a cousin   who was taking a piano at the convent, Catholic  convent, and every weekend, she'd come home and   do you know what it is for someone who know how to  play?

And you'd almost have to beg them sometime   to play.

And this is why I've always had this.

And anytime they ask me, I will not say, Well,   I don't want to.

I don't have the time.

And  I never do that.

I'll go up and say, Yes,   I will, because I have it now, you understand?

Even though there's someone better than I am,   I'm not afraid of that.

I will give what I  have.

And because I didn't like the idea,   oh, I can't do it now, but later on, you  see, it just spoils the fun.

You know,   the person can do it, do it now for us, because I  enjoy listening to it, and so I gradually picked   up my knowledge in music.

BB: Did you take up the   ʻuke and the autoharp later, then?

EH: Oh, autoharp is duck soup.

Your chords   are right here.

Your ʻukulele.

It was, it was an  instrument of the neighborhood.

Nearly every home,   every home, right,, every home.

We called it C  and second C, F and second F. See, the Hawaiians   were quite smart.

They didn't know the name of  the knew C. So the closest related chord would   be second C. We call it g7 and when I explain it  to the kids or to the adults who have had music,   they're just surprised see how intelligent the  Hawaiians were in finding and discovering for   themselves.

Oh, second, g7 they didn't know  g7 but this chord here is a relative of C,   a sister or a father to C, so it was C  and second, C, F and second, F, very good,   very easy.

No string.

Don't fight with music.

BB: When did you start composing that?

When did you compose your first song?

EH: I believe it stemmed from Aina Keawe.

BB: When she asked you to do a job for her, huh?

BB: I believe, yeah, she says, go ahead and   write, so I says, okay.

EH: When was that?

BB: That was way back in Oh, too long, too far  back.

One of, one of the my first numbers during   the 1941 this one is called a Polynesian Praise.

On December the seventh, that that night was   awful.

It was real terrible, and I went to pick  up mama, and that's how the Polynesian Pray came,   Prayer came, came about.

When she said, I wonder  why these people are doing this to us.

We have   done nothing to them.

She says, This island  is filled with aloha.

There's enough aloha for   everyone who comes in.

And she's speaking  to herself now, and I picked it up in the   next the same week I wrote BB: Polynesian Prayer.

EH: Yes, God bless our Hawaiʻi  when he made these isles.

BB: You've done a lot of painting.

When did you take that up?

EH: Oh, my goodness.

BB: You got paintings here,   and I suppose many more.

EH: Yes.

BB: When did you start painting?

EH: This, Bob, must have come up in my   family.

Every one of us have some line of art.

BB: Artwork?

Oh is that so?

EH: It just comes natural, the desire for  nature, the desire for people, for putting, see,   I'm a very poor writer.

But I do have something  that I would like for someone to help me to write.

These are stories told to me by my grand folks,  stories that would be very, very interesting for   the children today and for the future children.

Painting came about through an Uncle David.

He did crayon work and with his pictures were  stories.

I love that uncle.

He was around 17   years old, and I was just about five, and he would  tell stories.

And he had gone away for 45 years.

He joined the First Navy, Armad... BB: Armada?

EH: Armada.

The first group of Hawaiian boys that  left the Hawaiian Islands.

And when he came back,   not too long ago, I told him, I says,  Unky Solomon.

I says, Do you know that   you was my inspiration?

BB: He was the one...  EH: That you were the first one started  me off by telling me stories with this   little color crayon pictures of yours.

And  so this is it.

Of course, I'm not, Iʻm not.

BB: Where's the location on this?

EH: This is Hanauma Bay.

Right in the   corner of where, and this one is called Looking  Between the Keawe Trees.

This one is called,   Between the Keawe Trees.

This is where we camp,  the playground kids.

This farthest corner that   gets you around to that part of Hanauma  Bay is the area where we're permitted to   camp.

And it was one of the days, right about  we're he's sitting, is where all the kids are.

BB: Oh yes.

Now you mentioned one of  these smaller ones was one of your,   was your favoite.

Is that the one?

EH: They're, all of these here,   is called the "ʻOhana."

That one is,  "Mabel, Aki, Preparation for Lei Day."

BB: Oh.

EH: Here again,   it's connected with recreation, "Fixing up The  Kahili."

This one here is "After a Parade," and   that one is "Waiting for a Parade."

I should have  put a bottle of beer right in front of that man.

BB: This other big one looks  like, might be Waimanalo.

EH: That's Olamana.

And I'm just beginning to  learn how to make, draw, paint horses.

I'm not   too good yet, but I will.

In another six months,  I'll have my horses look like looking like horses   instead of donkeys, yeah.

BB: And the batiks.

EH: The batiks, that I love.

It's my favorite.

I  learned batiking in with the recreation department   under Marie McDonald.

BB: Oh yes.

EH: And that is one of my first love.

I  need a fuller, but that is with batiking   with unbleached muslin.

Usually it's  done in silk, and I like the results,   and you can handle it better.

BB: Yes.

Well now, Eleanor,   what are you going to be doing in your retirement?

EH: Ooo, I've been retired now for about a week   and a half.

I went to Las Vegas.

And try  to get, every morning I get up and I says,   what program is this afternoon, What, what... BB: What do you have to do today?

EH: What's going on this morning.

It'll take about  about a whole month before I can realize that I am   now pau.

I have traveling.

I joined the Koho'one  travel agency.

That is run by a Hawaiian, Hawaiian   boy graduated from Kam School.

And he owns that.

And my first group, I will be taking out a German   Shepherd club of Hawai'i to the West Coast.

BB: You raised German Shepherds, didn't you?

EH: I do.

BB: AKC?

EH: AKC.

BB: Registered hmm.

EH: Right, up in Waimanalo,  and we have just got nine pups.

BB: Oh?

EH: Yes, brand new, one week old.

BB: Well, now you're, you're  going to be conducting tours   for seniors, then?

As this travel... EH: Yes.

their type of traveling would   be altogether different from the ones they read  in the paper.

They cannot upkeep with the rest   of the group.

They must have a slower pace.

They  have two, three days to stay in a hotel and just   walking around, instead of running from one place  to another, picking up your bags, going in and   right that's not, even you get tired.

I get tired, BB: Oh sure, sure.

EH: Right?

BB: So it'll be a tour designed for Seniors?

EH: For seniors, and short, 10  or 12 days, no more than that.

BB: Well, Eleanor, in 1970 we asked several people  to tell us of memorable Christmases in their past,   and we have one that you told we have it on black  and white film, and we'd like to share that now.

EH: How nice.

BB: And this is   Eleanor Heavey, who's been on our program many  times before.

Eleanor, is there some Christmas   in your past that stands out in your mind?

EH: Oh, yes, of course, all Christmas is a good   Christmas.

But this one, I remember, I was just  about seven years old, eight years old, and this   is Old Hawaiʻi now.

And in our district, Christmas  tree was was a luxury, and toys and things was a   luxury.

When my dad worked on the ship, and once  in a while, maybe once in a year, twice a year,   he'd come in, and whenever he came in, that meant  good life, presents and all these things and   stories about the Orient and Europe.

But Papa  had to leave almost immediately.

And so Mama,   I could see you getting excited around the house,  you know, and we didn't have Christmas trees,   and I was wondering what was Mama up to?

And so  she says to us, you kids go to sleep tonight, and   go to sleep early.

And children in our district,  we don't go to bed early.

Never heard of it, and I   was wondering now, what is Mama up to?

So anyway,  to please her, we all took a bath, and everybody   slept on the floor.

There's lauhala mats, and  all the kids, it's 13 of us.

I'm the number one.

BB: Oh.

EH: So I look up at Mama,   and here she is working in the dark, moving around  and picking up her purse and getting herself all   fixed up.

And I says, Mama, going out at this time  of the night?

So just when she was about to leave   the house, I got up.

I says, Mama, where you're  going?

She says, oh my, since you're up now,   you might as well come with me.

So I got dressed  in a hurry, and I went with her.

Well, she took   me to town, and here I was on Fort Street with all  the lights and Christmas trees and things and, oh,   it was like Disneyland today.

I was so excited.

I hung onto my mother's hands.

I didn't care what   she was buying, just so I had this beautiful world  to walk in and enjoy.

And then we came home on the   hack.

Mama had packages after packages, and she  was piling it on the hack, which meant that Papa   came home with a lot of money.

And then when we  came home, she says, I bought every one of you   something.

And I says, But Mama, in the postcard,  it has stockings and Christmas tree.

She says,   Well, we don't have a Christmas tree, but you can  go get Papa's stockings, socks.

So I went, and   I nailed it up, and I stuck all these things in  the socks, and I couldn't sleep, just waiting for   daylight.

And finally, when all the kids got up  in the morning, here it was all the gifts all on   the floor, in the stockings.

Oh, it's Christmas.

And it was.

It was, was one of, one of the most   joyous Christmas and I wonder if Mama remembers  it.

To me, it'll be the most joyful Christmas in   all of my life that I will live on this planet (Singing) I'm a paniolo boy from the rolling   hills, the rolling hills, the green green  hills.

I'm a paniolo boy from the rolling   hills from Kohala to Kamuela.

Kuʻu lio ʻEleu is  a bucking horse, a good riding horse, a naughty   old horse.

Kuʻu lio ʻEleu is my favorite  horse from Kohala to Kamuela.

ʻEleu and   I we travel high, we travel low, and away  we go to the oak around on Parker Ranch for   its round of time in Waimea.

Oh, I'm a paniolo  boy from the rolling hills, the rolling hills,   the green green hills.

I'm a paniolo boy  from the rolling hills, from Kohala to   Kamuela.

(Vocalizing).

I'm a paniolo boy  from the rolling hills, the rolling hills,   the green green hills.

I opened  the old boy from the rolling   hills, from Kohala to Kamuela.

Kuʻu lio ʻEleu  is a bucking horse, a good riding horse,   a naughty old horse.

Kuʻu lio ʻEleu is my favorite  horse from Kohala to Kamuela.

(Vocalizing)  EH: Giddyup horsey, giddyup.

(Singing) I'm a paniolo boy from the   rolling hills, the rolling hills, the green green  hills.

I'm a paniolo boy from the rolling hills   from Kohala to Kamuela.

From Kohala to Kamuela.

BB: Eleanor Heavey, we wish you much happiness and   satisfaction in your retirement.

EH: Thank you so much.

BB: And that's Pau Hana Years for today.

This  is Bob Barker leaving you with this thought:   Service to a just cause rewards the  worker with more real happiness and   satisfaction than any other venture of life.

Try to remember when life was so tender that   no one wept except the willow.

Try to  remember when life was so tender that   dreams wrekept beside your pilow.

Deep in  December, it's nice to remember the fire of   September That made us mellow.

Try to remember  and if you remember then follow, follow, follow.