[♪♪] GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO KENTUCKY TONIGHT.

I'M RENEE SHAW.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

TONIGHT: AN ELECTION EVE PREVIEW.

TOMORROW IS ELECTION DAY, BUT IT’S MORE LIKE AN ELECTION WEEK.

SECRETARY OF STATE MICHAEL ADAMS SAYS ALMOST 800-THOUSAND KENTUCKIANS VOTED THURSDAY, FRIDAY, AND SATURDAY.

MORE WILL VOTE TOMORROW, AS KENTUCKIANS PICK MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND THE KENTUCKY GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

VOTERS WILL ALSO DECIDE ON CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ONE — ABOUT BANNING NON-CITIZENS FROM VOTING.

AMENDMENT TWO — SOMETIMES CALLED THE “SCHOOL CHOICE” AMENDMENT — IS THE BALLOT ITEM THAT’S RECEIVED THE MOST ATTENTION.

AND OF COURSE, KENTUCKY — AND AMERICA — ARE PICKING A PRESIDENT.

TO TALK ABOUT ALL THIS, WE HAVE FOUR GUESTS IN OUR LEXINGTON STUDIO.

THEY ARE: STEVE ROBERTSON, FORMER SPOKESPERSON FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OF KENTUCKY; COLMON ELRIDGE, CHAIR OF THE KENTUCKY DEMOCRATIC PARTY; AMY WICKLIFFE, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST AND PARTNER AT MCCARTHY STRATEGIC SOLUTIONS; AND STUART PERELMUTER, DEMOCRATIC CONSULTANT AND FOUNDER AND CEO OF GOOD INFLUENCE.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.

YOU CAN SEND YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS BY X — FORMERLY TWITTER -- AT PUB AFFAIRS KET.

SEND AN EMAIL TO K-Y TONIGHT AT K-E-T DOT O-R-G. OR USE THE WEB FORM AT K-E-T DOT O-R-G SLASH K-Y TONIGHT.

OR YOU CAN CALL 1-800-494-7605.

WELCOME TO ALL OUR GUESTS.

WE HAVE A GOOD GROUP, NEW GROUP AND SOME WHO HAVE BUDGET ON A LONG HIATUS.

STEVE, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK AND COAL KELL WE'RE GLAD YOU ARE HERE.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE AND TRICKLE DOWN AND AMY WILL BE WITH US TOMORROW NIGHT ON OUR COVERAGE ON KET 2 BEGINNING AT 8:00 P.M. EASTERN.

IN THE FINAL DAYS OF THE CAMPAIGN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THEIR CLOSING MESSAGES.

WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIT HOME TO VOTERS?

AND IS IT RESONATING.

>> WELL, I THINK WHAT YOU'VE SEEN OVER COURSE OF THE LAST WEEK, AND I THINK IT'S JUST BEEN ABOUT A WEEK SINCE VICE-PRESIDENT HARRIS DELIVERED HER CLOSING REMARKS IN WASHINGTON, IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IT'S TIME TO TURN THE PAGE.

THAT OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH WITH DONALD TRUMP AND THAT IT IS TIME TO TURN THE PAGE ON HATE AND DIVISION.

BUT ALSO TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR A NEW GENERATION OF LEADERSHIP.

AND SHE ABSOLUTELY EMBODIES THAT CHANGE.

BUT WE'VE ALSO SEEN THE SAME MESSAGE THAT SHE BEGAN WITH.

IT IS ABOUT ENSURING THAT OUR WOMEN AND GIRLS ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE NOT TREATED AS SECOND CLASS STIPULATESES AND WE CAN RESTORE AUTONOMY AND THEY CAN HAVE CONTROL OVER THEIR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AND HEALTH.

IT'S ABOUT CONTINUING TO IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, CONTINUING TO BUILDUP THE MIDDLE CLASS IN WAYS THAT WE KNOW IMPACT IN A POSITIVE WAY EVERY COMMUNITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE VICE-PRESIDENT HAS HONED IN ON BECAUSE THEY NOT ONLY RESONATE WITH THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT SHE KNOWS HOW TO GET DONE.

AND SHOWS' LAID OUT THAT AGENDA.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER HOW SHE GOT HERE AND TO REMEMBER ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN DONE IN A TRUNCATED WAY.

BUT ONE OF THE WAYS WE KNOW IT'S RESONATE SOMETHING THAT OVER THE WEEKEND, OFFER 90,000 VOLUNTEERS, KNOCKED ON OVER THREE MILLION DOORS IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES ON BEHALF OF THE HARRIS-WALZ TICKET.

THAT UNPRESS DEPARTMENTSED AND WHEN YOU PUT THAT AGAINST WHAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE, I THINK IT REALLY DOES BODE WELL FOR THE RESULTS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO COME TOMORROW NIGHT BUT MAYBE BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

>> Renee: WE ARE NOT SURE WHEN IT'S GOING TO COME.

STEVE, WHAT ABOUT TRUMP FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP WHAT HAS BEEN HIS CLOSING MESSAGE OR MESSAGES AND HAS HE DONE WITH WITH A PLUME AND GETTING TO THE VOTERS HE NEEDS TO REACH AND WHO IS HE TRYING TO REACH AT THIS POINT.

>> ONE THING THAT COLEMAN SAID THAT IS CORRECT.

VOTERS ARE LOOKING TO TURN THE PAGE.

HOWEVER, I THINK THAT VOTERS ARE LOOKING TO TURN THE PAGE AWAY FROM THE BIDE-HARRIS ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE PEOPLE LOOK AT THEIR PERSONAL ECONOMIES SINCE JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS ENTERED THE WHITE HOUSE.

GROCERIES ARE 20% MORE THAN THEY WERE WHEN THEY TOOK OFFICE.

RENT IS MORE THAN 20% MORE THAN WHEN THEY TOOK OFFICE.

YOUR CAR INSURANCE IS 50% PLUS MORE.

THERE IS A LEVEL OF INFLATION IN THIS COUNTRY, THAT IS EATING AWAY AT THE WAGES THAT PEOPLE ARE EARNING.

ANY WAGE GROWTH THAT HAS BEEN EXPERIENCED SINCE JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS WENT INTO THE WHITE HOUSE, HAS BEEN UNDONE BY UNPRECEDENTED INFLATION.

AND I THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP IS DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TALKING ABOUT THESE POCKETBOOK ISSUES THAT PEOPLE SEE EVERY TIME THEY GO INTO THE GROCERY.

I SEE IT.

I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE I HAVE DONE WELL IN LIFE AND I GO IN THERE AND I'M ASTOUNDED.

YOU WANT TO GO TO THE BUTCHER COUNTER AND BUY A STEAK THAT ROBIN LEECH IS GOING TO DO A SHOW ABOUT THE RICH AND FAMOUS.

BEEF IS RIDICULOUS.

AND PEOPLE SEE THESE THINGS AND DONALD TRUMP HAS DONE A GOOD JOB ASKING PEOPLE ARE YOU BETTER OFF TODAY THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO.

I THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL MAKE A BIG CHOICE TOMORROW.

I WISH I COULD TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.

THERE ARE SEVEN BATTLEGROUND STATES DEPENDING WHICH WAY THE WIND BLOWS EITHER PERSON CAN COME IN OVER THE TOP.

THEY ARE THAT CLOSE.

SO I AGREE.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETIME LATER THIS WEEK BEFORE WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS.

BUT BOTH CAMPAIGNS ARE FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS AND I THINK IT IS IT GOING TO COME DOWN WHAT VOTERS CARE ABOUT.

>> Renee: WHO ARE THE UNDECIDES AND IS DONALD TRUMP TRYING TO SPEAK TO THEM.

>> I THINK YOU HAVE HARRIS AND TRUMP TRYING TO SPEAK TO THESE LATE DECIDERS, INDEPENDENT VOTERS, THE FEMALE ELECTORATE AND VOTER WHO HASN'T DECIDED WHO DOESN'T LIKE THE RHETORIC THAT THEY HEAR FROM A TRUMP BUT THEY CAN'T QUITE TO GET THEY HAVE NOT HEARD WHAT THEY NEED TO HEAR FROM HARRIS YET.

THEY ARE BOTH TRYING TO SPEAK TO THOSE.

AND THE UNDECIDE VOTERS HAS TO BE A SMALL POPULATION AT THIS POINT.

MOST PEOPLE HAVE VOTED OR THEY ARE GOING TO DECIDE AND WE NOW HOW CLOSE THIS RACE IS GOING TO BE AND WE KNOW HARRIS IN ORDER TO WIN CANNOT RELY ON HER BASE.

SHE HAS TO APPEAL TO REPUBLICAN WOMEN.

SHE IS MAKING GAINS IN REPUBLICAN WOMEN.

SUBURBAN, EDUCATED, WHITE WOMEN SHE IS PERFORMING WELL WITH.

IN THE INDEPENDENT VOTERS, I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR TRUMP TO MAKE INROADS THERE.

I THINK TRUMP REALIZES THAT HE HAS A SIGNIFICANT DEFICIT WHEN IT COMES TO THE FEMALE VOTE SO HE IS LEANING IN VERY HARD TO TRY TO GET THE YOUNGER, MALE VOTE TO TURNOUT WHO TYPICALLY MAY NOT ACTUALLY TURNOUT IN AN ELECTION CYCLE.

>> Renee: THERE WAS A RECENT NPR, PBS NEWS POLL THAT SAYS PEOPLE ARE NOT CONVINCED THAT VAN HARRIS AS PRESIDENT WOULD CARRY OUT THE PROPOSALS.

THEY MAY LIKE WHAT THEY HEAR BUT THEY DON'T THINK SHE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH.

YOUR REFOR THE TO THAT?

>> I THINK IF PEOPLE WANT VICE-PRESIDENT HARRIS TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON HER PROPOSALS AND I THINK THEY SHOULD, THEN THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ELECT A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS THAT CAN HELP HER GET THAT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

AND WE SAW WHAT THAT ADMINISTRATION WAS ABLE TO DO TO STEVE'S POINT ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, THE ECONOMY WAS IN FREE FALL.

A MILLION PEOPLE AMERICANS, HAD DIED FROM A PANDEMIC THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD CONTINUED TO MAKE LIGHT OF, CONTINUED TO RIDICULE AND PRESCRIBE SNAKE OIL CURES FOR.

AND THE BIDEN-HARRIS CAME IN AND WE HAVE HISTORIC UNEMPLOYMENT GOING BACK 50 YEARS.

THE STOCK MARKET IS HIGHER THAN IT'S EVER BEEN.

WE HAVE MORE SBA NEW SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION LOANS THAN AT ANY POINT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

AND TO THE INFLATION POINT, INFLATION WAS A GLOBAL PROBLEM.

THE SUPPLY CHAIN AFTER THE PANDEMIC HAD BEEN TATTERED.

AMERICA UNDER PRESIDENT BIDEN'S LEADERSHIP GOT INFLATION UNDER CONTROL.

WE ARE 2%.

FASTER THAN OTHER COUNTRIES.

SO I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE RIGHT TO WANT KAMALA HARRIS TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON HER PROPOSALS AND I THINK THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE HER THAT CHANCE.

>> Renee: PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE THE ECONOMY IS DOING BETTER THEY FEEL THAT INFLATION IS MUCH HIGHER THAN 2%.

>> IT TAKES TIME FOR THE INITIATIVES TO COME THROUGH.

THE TRAJECTORY WE ARE IN A MUCH, MUCH PLACE THAN FOUR YEARS AGO AND THE TRAJECTORY WE ARE ON WE'LL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE.

WHAT WILL DESTROY THIS IS THE TRUMP TARIFFS THAT ARE PROMISING TO RAISE PRICES BY AS MUCH AS 20% IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

EVERY ECONOMIST HAS SAID IF TRUMP IS ELECTED PRESIDENT IS ABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON HIS ECONOMIC PLANS FLATION WILL NOT BE 2% WE ARE LUCKY TO KEEP IT UNDER 20%.

>> Renee: IT SEEMS THERE ARE MORE VOTERS WHO BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD HANDLE THE ECONOMY BETTER THAN VICE-PRESIDENT HARRIS.

AS PRESIDENT.

>> YEAH, I THINK THAT IS RIGHT.

AND I DID SEE THAT NPR POLL AND IT WAS 49% BELIEVE THAT KAMALA HARRIS COULD WOULD KEEP HER PROMISES AND 49% SAID SHE WOULDN'T.

AND THAT IS THE FUNCTION SHE CAME INTO THE GAME LATE.

SHE SORT OF BEEN IN THE BACKGROUND AS VICE-PRESIDENT.

SHE WAS THRUST INTO A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN VERY EARLY.

VERY LATE IN THE PROCESS.

AND I JUST THINK THAT AMERICANS AREN'T COMFORTABLE YET WITH HER.

BUT I THINK THAT IS A PROBLEM.

YOU NEVER WANT TO BE SITTING THE DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION AND FEWER THAN HALF OF THE VOTERS THINK YOU WILL MAKE GOOD ON WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

>> TO THAT POLL, THERE IS A REALITY THIS CAMPAIGN IS UNIQUE IN THAT BOTH CANDIDATES HAVE A RECORD SERVING IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

YOU TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE THAT TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST TO.

AND I THINK VOTERS HEAR GREAT IDEAS COMING FROM THE VICE-PRESIDENT NOW BUT THE QUESTION IS WHY DIDN'T YOU TRY TO MOVE ON THOSE SOONER?

WHERE WERE THOSE IDEAS BEFORE NN WHY DID YOU NOT TRY TO WORK WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN TO BE ABLE TO MOVE SOME OF THOSE INITIATIVES MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM.

BUT TRY TO MOVE THE NEEDLE AND PRESENT THOSE PREVIOUSLY.

>> BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE CIVICS MATTERS.

AND THE TRUTH MATTERS.

ONE, WE KIND OF TRY TO TALK ABOUT THIS RACE AS IF IT IS NORMAL AND IT'S NOT.

WE HAVE A PERSON RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE WHO IS A CONVICTED FELON 34 TIMES OVER.

WHO HAS BEEN HELD LIABLE FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT.

WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR INSITING AAND INIS YOURRATION BECAUSE HE LOST AN ELECTION.

ALL OF THAT IS ALSO PLAYING INTO WHAT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY ARE LOOKING AT WHEN THEY ARE MAKING A JUDGMENT CALL.

YES, MAYBE AND ONE POLL ALTHOUGH I'VE SEEN POLLS AS WELL WHERE THE VICE-PRESIDENT HAS ACTUALLY PULLED AHEAD OF THE FORMER GUY WHEN IT COMES TO THE ECONOMY.

MAYBE THERE IS QUESTION OF WHAT SHE WILL DO WITH THE AWESOME RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PRESIDENCY.

THERE IS NO QUESTION OF WHAT DONALD TRUMP WILL DO WITH THE AWESOME RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PRESIDENCY.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THAT IN FULL DISPLAY.

IF YOU ARE A WOMAN, YOU KNOW THAT TODAY YOU HAVE LESS RIGHTS THAN YOU DID WHEN DONALD TRUMP BECAME PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE WAS PRESIDENT.

IF YOU ARE A PERSON OF COLOR YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE -- YOU HAVE LESS RIGHTS TODAY AND YOUR BACK IS UP AGAINST THE WALL TODAY ON A HOST OF ISSUES BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT.

THIS IS NOT HYPERBOLE AND DEMOCRATS SAYING LET'S PAINTED A DARK PICTURE.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IRREFUTABLE.

>> Renee: WHY IS IT THAT VICE-PRESIDENT HARRIS FOUND IT DIFFICULT TO PERSUADE AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN AND WE KNOW THERE IS A GAP THERE AND LATINO MEN.

>> I WILL SAY WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I BELIEVE THAT IS A REPUBLICAN TALKING POINT.

I'VE BEEN A BLACK MALE FOR TO YOUR 2 YEARS.

I KNOW BLACK MEN ARE SHOWING UP FOR HARRIS.

THEY WANT TO KNOW SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE THERE FOR THEM WHEN IT COMES TO THE ECONOMY, EDUCATION, AND KEEPING US SECURE AND WHERE THERE MAY HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF JUST TRYING TO GET TO KNOW HER, SHE'S MADE HERSELF AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

WHILE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A GREAT TALKING POINT ON THE OTHER SIDE FOR THE BEGINNING OF HER CAMPAIGN, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER THE TURNOUT THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT TURNOUT IN EARLY VOTES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BLACK MEN ARE SHOWING UP AND SHOWING UP AND THEY ARE VOTING FOR KAMALA HARRIS AND THAT IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE THE CASE.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IS FALSE WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK MEN AND LATINO MEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR AS A WHOLE, IS WE HAVE PROOF OF WHAT DONALD TRUMP THINKS OF US.

AND SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, OH, DO I AGREE WITH KAMALA HARRIS ON EVERYTHING?

I WILL AT LEAST STICK WITH THE PERSON WHO DOESN'T CALL PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME, THAT LIVE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, [INAUDIBLE] I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE ON A STAGE KAMALA HARRIS IS NEVER GOING TO LET SOMEBODY ON A STAGE AND SAY ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, OH, PUERTO RICO, THAT FLOATING ISLAND OF GARBAGE.

THESE ARE REAL THINGS THAT VOTERS AND VOTERS OF COLOR HEAR.

THAT WE'VE SEEN DONALD TRUMP PARADE IN BEFORE THIS IS THE SAME PRESIDENT WHO QUESTIONED WHETHER OR NOT BARACK OBAMA WAS A CITIZEN.

THIS IS THE SAME PERSON WHO PUT A HIT JOB OUT ON THE CENTRAL PARK FIVE.

THERE IS A RECORD THAT EXISTS THERE.

WHICH IS WHY PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE REJECTING THIS NOTION THAT DONALD TRUMP SOMEHOW CARES ABOUT US IN WAYS THAT HE ABSOLUTELY HAS NEVER SHOWN PROOF OF.

>> Renee: IS THAT A TRUE CHARACTERIZATION?

>> I WOULD SAY THIS.

I CAN'T SIT HERE AND LET YOU MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THE DEMOCRATS' HANDS ARE CLEAN ON CALLING DIFFERENT VOTERS NAMES.

YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO LITERALLY CALLED ANYBODY WHO WAS SUPPORTING DONALD TRUMP GARBAGE.

>> THE THAT IS NOT WHAT HE SAID.

>> YOU ARE BETTER THAN.

>> LET ME FINISH.

LET ME FINISH.

YOU HAVE A SURROGATE IN MARK CUBAN SAID INTELLIGENT STRONG WOMEN ARE NEVER AROUND DONALD TRUMP AND WILL NEVER SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP.

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

AS YOU SIT HERE AND LISTEN I WILL NEVER STAND UP AND DEFEND SOME OF THE RHETORIC THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS SAID.

BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH A LOT OF IT.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN SIT HERE AND SAY ONE PARTY'S HANDS ARE CLEAN BUT THE RHETORIC ON BOTH SIDES HAS TO END.

>> THIS IS NOT BOTH SIDES.

I'M GLAD YOU CAN BLACK LIVES MATTER OF LIVE IN A REALITY WHERE THE PRESIDENT CAN MISSPEAK AND APOLOGIZE FOR IT.

AND WHERE MARK CUBAN WITH MAKE COMMENTS AND EXPLAIN HIMSELF.

>> YOU KNOW ME BETTER.

YOU KNOW ME BETTER.

>> I'M GLAD YOU LIVE IN A REALITY WHERE THOSE THINGS ARE EQUAL TO THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES STILL SAYING TODAY THAT MEMBERS OF THE CENTRAL PARK FIVE TO BE UNDER A JAIL.

>> YOU ARE PUTTING WORDS IN OUR MOUTH.

[ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> Renee: THIS IS NOT CABLE NEWS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE -- [ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE TWO ARE NOT EQUAL AND TO TREAT THEM AS EQUAL IS INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST.

>> COLEMAN.

COLEMAN.

SO WE AGREE WORDS MATTER AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING YOU NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE WORDS THAT YOU CHOOSE TO DELIVER TO PEOPLE.

AND HOW YOU DELIVER IT.

THAT'S FAIR.

THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND HOLDING DONALD TRUMP ACCOUNTABLE.

>> BUT DOES THAT SAME STANDARD APPLY TO YOU AND THE KENTUCKY DEMOCRATIC PARTY?

>> SURE.

>> I HATE TO JUMP INTO THE LEGISLATIVE RACES BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING UP.

>> THE MAIL PIECE THAT WENT OUT AGAINST REPRESENTATIVE STEPHANIE DEETS HIGHLIGHTING THE LETTERS IN HER NAME DIED A DESPICABLE MAIL PIECE.

IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHICH PARTY INSIGHTS VIOLENCE AND TALKS ABOUT RHETORIC THAT IS A MAIL PIECE THAT NEVER SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN.

>> Renee: REPRESENTATIVE THOMAS HUFF FEELS THE COUNTRY IS WAITING ON THE RESULTS OF PREGNANCY TEST WE GET A HEALTHY BABY BOY OR THE DAUGHTER OF SATAN.

YOUR RESPONSE COMING FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

>> I CAN'T DEFEND IT.

>> THERE ARE SOME THINGS PEOPLE GET CAUGHT UP IN THE CAMPAIGNS ON BOTH SIDES.

>> BUT THERE IS A POINT WHERE PEOPLE MAYBE NEED TO CHECK IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND JUST NOT GO AS FAR WITH IT.

>> CERTAIN PEOPLE.

CERTAIN PEOPLE, WHO YESTERDAY, YESTERDAY ON BOTH SIDES.

>> I'M SORRY BUT IT'S NOT HAPPENING WITH THE PEOPLE ON YOUR SIDE.

>> THE PEOPLE CALLING FOR MEMBERS OF THE PRESS TO BE SHOT.

ENCOURAGING COPS TO ROUGH UP ACCUSED, NOT CONVICTED ANYTHING.

>> INSINIATEED IN THE MAIL PIECES THAT CERTAIN REPRESENTATIVES IN KENTUCKY SHOULD DIE.

>> THREE LETTERS IN A MAIL PIECE.

>> AND IT NEEDS TO SIMMER DOWN AND SIMMER DOWN ON YOUR SIDE.

CALM DOWN.

>> Renee: HAVE BEEN INFLAMMATORY REMARKS WHETHER AN APOLOGY.

>> THERE ARE ALWAYS INFLAMMATORY REMARKS IN POLITICS AND SOMETHING WE NEED TO DEAL WITH.

AND THIS IS DIFFERENT.

AND WE ALL KNOW THIS IS DIFFERENT.

FOR THE PAST WEEK, I'M A PARTISAN.

THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

WE STRATEGIZE, WE TRY TO GET PEOPLE HEALTHCARE AND ALL THE THINGS.

WE DO THINGS TO GET DEMOCRATS ELECTED TO ENACT PROGRESSIVE REFORMS.

THE PAST WEEK WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING TO EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN THE NIGHT OF NOVEMBER FIFTH AND WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE DISPEL THE LIES THAT ARE GOING TO COME OUT OF DONALD TRUMP AND HIS FOLLOWERS AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO MITIGATE VIOLENCE.

THAT IS INSANE THAT THIS IS GOING TO FALL TO ME.

MITIGATING VIOLENCE.

THIS IS NOT HAPPENING IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

IT IS INSANE THAT THIS IS A PARTISAN THING RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS.

TO INSINIATE THIS IS BOTH SIDES BECAUSE OF A MAILER THAT IS PERHAPS BEYOND THE PALE, I HAVE NOT SEEN IT.

BUT FOR NINE YEARS I'VE SEEN DONALD TRUMP EQUATE GROUPS OF PEOPLE TO ANIMALS TO THE PEOPLE THAT GENOCIDE WATCH GROUPS ARE SAYING THIS IS A PRECURSOR TO GENOCIDE THIS IS WHAT WE SEE.

AND TO INSINIATE THIS IS A NORMAL PART OF POLITICS THAT HAPPENS IS INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST AND IT ALSO IT ALLOWS FOR THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR TO CONTINUE AND WE PRETEND LIKE IT'S NORMAL.

>> Renee: WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON FROM THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?

>> JUST NATIONALLY, RIGHT, ONE THING THAT STUART SAID ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF KAMALA HARRIS, SHOULD SHE BE ELECTED TO HAVE A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS SO THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

LOOK AT THE UNITED STATES SENATE IT IS A FOREGONE CONCLUSION THAT REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO HAVE A MAJORITY IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.

THERE'S NO SERIOUS CHALLENGE TO TED CRUZ AND RICK SCOTT THEY ARE BOTH GOING TO WIN TOMORROW.

TEXAS AND FLORIDA.

GOVERNOR JIM JUSTICE IN WEST VIRGINIA, FOREGONE CONCLUSION HE IS GOING TO WIN THE SEAT AND THAT GETS REPUBLICANS TO 50.

JOHN TESTER IS NOT GOING TO WIN TOMORROW AND THAT GETS THEM TO 51.

>> TALK ABOUT NEBRASKA?

>> I THINK NEBRASKA IS GOING TO END UP OKAY.

>> IT'S TIED.

SO IT IS NOT A FOREGONE CONCLUSION.

>> I THINK IT WILL BE TOMORROW EVENING.

>> WE'LL KNOW ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IN THE SENATE LONG BEFORE WE KNOW ABOUT THE OUTCOME OF THE RACE FOR PRESIDENT.

>> AGREED.

>> BUT IT IS ONE OF THESE CASES WHERE THAT CHAMBER IS GOING TO BE IN REPUBLICAN HANDS AND YOU HAVE OHIO, YOU'VE GOT OTHER STATES THAT ARE SITTING IN THERE.

WHERE WE COULD GET SOME UNEXPECTED GAINS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ARIZONA AND MARYLAND WHICH ARE TO A LESSER EXTENT POSSIBLE PICKUPS.

BUT I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT 51 IN THE U.S. SENATE.

AND LOOK OVER TO THE HOUSE, FRANKLY, I THINK THAT WILL BE A SITUATION WHERE THE OUTCOME OF THE HOUSE IS GOING TO FOLLOW THE OUTCOME OF THE PRESIDENCY.

THERE IS A LOT OF CLOSE RACES.

THE MAJORITY IN CONGRESS HAS VERY IMPORTANT RAMIFICATIONS ON KENTUCKY.

WE'VE GOT CONGRESSMAN JAMES COMER THE CURRENT CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

BRETT GUTHRIES RUNNING FOR ENERGY AND COMMERCE.

ANDY BARR IS RUNNING TO CHAIR FINANCIAL SERVICES IN THE HOUSE.

WE REALLY STAND TO HAVE SOME WELL PLACED REPUBLICANS IN THE U.S. HOUSE IF REPUBLICANS CAN HOLD ON.

BUT I THINK THAT'S PRETTY TOO CLOSE TO CALL.

>> Renee: DO YOU AGREE ON THIS SIDE?

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE U.S. HOUSE?

>> I ACTUALLY BELIEVE AND NOT SURPRISINGLY THAT HAKIM JEFFREYS IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.

FOR THE REASONS I LAID OUT WHY I BELIEVE THE VICE-PRESIDENT IS GOING TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY.

IS THIS ELECTION GOING TO BE CLOSE?

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT IN STATE AFTER STATE, WHAT WE KNOW ESPECIALLY IN THE BATTLEGROUNDS, OTHER PLACES AS WELL, DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T HAVE A GROUND GAME.

HE IS RUNNING THE SAME STRATEGY THAT HE RAN IN 16, THAT HE RAN IN 20 WHICH IS TO RILE UP HIS BASE AND FORGET EVERYBODY ELSE.

THE GROUND GAME THAT THE HARRIS-WALZ CAMPAIGN HAS IS EPIC.

AND I DON'T SAY THAT LIGHTLY AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN HOW SHE BECAME THE NOMINEE.

AND HOW QUICKLY THEY WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU KNOW, CLOSE RACES ARE WON ON THE MARGINS.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE 90,000 VOLUNTEERS KNOCKING ON OVER THREE MILLION DOORS THAT IS NOT JUST TO SUPPORT KAMALA HARRIS AND TIM WALZ.

THAT IS TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE CANDIDATES UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT WHO SHARE IN THAT AGENDA.

THE OTHER THING THAT I'LL SAY IS THIS.

BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT RHETORIC AND PASSION.

IT WAS NEVER GOING TO BE ON A DEMOCRAT'S BINGO CARD TO BE STANDING SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH LIZ CHENEY, DICK CHENEY, JOE WAG.

ALL OF THESE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE REPUBLICANS THAT HAVE COME TO THIS STATE AND CAMPAIGNED FOR REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES WHO ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND THE THREAT NOT ONLY THAT DONALD TRUMP IS, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT HIS ACT LIGHTS IN CONGRESS SOME OF THE LOUDEST MOST VISITRY OBVIOUSLYIC ENABLERS OF THE WORST TENDENCIES OF DONALD TRUMP ALSO CAN'T BE IN POWER.

YOU HAVE THE FOLKS SHOWING UP AND SAYING WE'RE REPUBLICANS YES, BUT LET'S BE AMERICANS FIRST.

SO WHEN THESE ELECTIONS COME DOWN TO BEING WON ON THE MARGINS WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE IN A LOT OF THESE PLACES TO BRING IT HOME.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS A FOREGONE CONCLUSION.

I THINK THERE ARE SO MANY DYNAMICS AT PLAY IN THIS ELECTION THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO MATTER TOMORROW NIGHT AND HAVE MATTERED DURING THE EARLY VOTE AS WELL.

>> Renee: WHAT IS TRUMP'S PATH TO VICTORY?

IS IT PENNSYLVANIA AND MICHIGAN?

DOES HE GET ONE AND NOT THE OTHER?

>> I THINK YOU'VE DOT TO BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE OF THOSE BLUE WALL STATES EITHER CANDIDATE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER YOUR MICHIGAN IS WHERE I THINK BOTH CANDIDATES ARE ENDING TONIGHT.

TRUMP IS ENDING THERE AND I BELIEVE HARRIS IS ENDING THERE AS WELL.

IT SHOWS YOU HOW CLOSE THATTATE IS AND WHAT IT WILL MEAN TOMORROW.

PENNSYLVANIA EVERY POLL TOSS UP.

I MEAN IT'S BEEN DEAD EVEN OVER THE LAST WEEK.

SO WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS GOING TO GO.

NORTH CAROLINA, I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMEBODY, I THINK TRUMP REALLY NEEDS TO SECURE NORTH CAROLINA.

I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ON HIS MAP.

BUT HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE OF THOSE STATES IN THE BLUE WALL AREA TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

>> AND THE STATES THAT SEEM TO BE WHERE TRUMP SEEMS TO HAVE AN EDGE WOULD BE ARIZONA, GEORGIA, NEVADA, NORTH CAROLINA, PENNSYLVANIA, SEEMS TO HAVE AN EDGE ON THE STATISTICALLY RELEVANT?

PROBABLY NOT.

YOU KNOW, KAMALA HARRIS, SEEMS TO HAVE AN EDGE IN MICHIGAN, AND WISCONSIN.

ARE THEY STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT?

PROBABLY NOT.

SO ANYONE OF THOSE STATES CAN GO EITHER WAY.

I MEAN THEY ARE REALLY COMING RIGHT DOWN TO THE WIRE.

>> Renee: I THINK YOU ARE SEEING -- >> I THINK YOU ARE SEEING SOMETHING INTERESTING HAPPENING THAT IS A BYPRODUCT OF OUR ELECTORAL COLLEGE AND THE SENATE BEING DISPROPORTIONATELY ALLOCATED IS THAT THE MEDIA AND POLLING FIRMS HAVE ONLY FOCUSED ON A HANDFUL OF DISTRICTS IN STATES FOR THE LAST YEAR.

SO ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE GOT A POLL OUT OF IOWA THAT SHOWS KAMALA HARRIS IS WINNING.

WELL, WHAT ELSE DOES THAT MEAN?

IF SHE'S WINNING IN IOWA.

THERE'S 435 SEATS IN THE HOUSE THAT ARE UP TOMORROW.

AND MAYBE 15% OF THEM ARE CONSIDERED COMPETITIVE.

JONATHAN IS RUNNING AGAINST ELI CRANE.

THIS WAS ON NOBODY'S MAP.

BUT JONATHAN RAISED A TON OF MONEY SO THEY RAN A POLL.

TIED.

NEBRASKA SENATE.

TIED.

AND SO I'M WONDERING ALL OF THESE PLACES THAT WERE CONSIDERED SAFE REPUBLICAN, ARE NOW VERY MUCH IN PLAY.

AND SO AS REPUBLICAN ABORTION BANS YOU ARE SEEING THIS IS HAPPENING LARGELY IN STATES WITH REPUBLICAN ABORTION BANS.

AS PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH REPUBLICANS INSISTING ON HAVING CONTROL OVER WOMEN'S BODILY AUTONOMY AND AMERICAN LIFE HOW FRUSTRATED ARE PEOPLE GETTING?

AND WHERE ARE WE NOT POLLING THAT WE WILL SEE SURPRISE TOMORROW.

>> Renee: DO YOU THINK IOWA IS IN PLAY?

>> I DON'T THINK.

IF IT IS, RIGHT, I DON'T THINK SHE IS AHEAD.

IF SHE IS GAINING GROUND, MAYBE BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S AHEAD.

>> SHE IS -- >> I'VE SEEN HIGHLY RATED POLLSTERS GET IT WRONG.

>> WHAT THE TRENDS ARE SHOWING IS THAT IN THE STATES THAT ARE GOING TO DECIDE THIS ELECTION IT'S RAZOR THIN.

AND THERE HAVE BEEN REPEATED AND REPEATED AND REPEATED INSTANCES OF HIGHLY COMPETITIVE RACES IN SEVEN BATTLEGROUND STATES.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT POLLING YOU LOOK AT THE BODY OF WORK YOU DON'T PICK OUT THE ONE YOU LIKE THAT MAKE YOUR TOES CURL.

YOU LOOK AT THE BODY WE ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW TOMORROW NIGHT WHO THE WINNER OF THE ELECTION IS.

>> Renee: WHEN WOULD YOU THINK WE MAY KNOW?

>> PROBABLY BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

WE KNOW ONE THING ABOUT TOMORROW NIGHT THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL DECLARE VICTORY AND WE KNOW THAT IT WILL BE BASED ON NOTHING.

AND WE KNOW IT IS DESIGNED TO THROW THE SYSTEM INTO CHAOS.

TUNE IN TOMORROW NIGHT.

>> Renee: WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF THAT COVERAGE.

WITH EACH DAY THAT GOES WITHOUT KNOWING, THE CONFIDENCE THAT VOTERS HAVE DIMINISHES.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN AGREE UPON THAT IF BALLOTS ARE STILL BEING COUNTED ON FRIDAY IN PENNSYLVANIA, DOES THAT GIVE THOSE WHO WANT TO DENY ELECTION RESULTS LEVERAGE AND MAKING THAT ARGUMENT FURTHER?

>> THINK THAT PRESUMES THEY NEED LEVERAGE TO SAY THE THINGS THEY ARE SAYING, NO.

THE ONE THING THAT WE KNOW IN KENTUCKY AND STATES ACROSS THE NATION IS THAT OUR SECRETARIES OF STATE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF SECURING THE VOTE.

NOW, THERE'S SQUIRRELLY FOLKS THAT GET INVOLVED AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES BUT BY AND LARGE, NO.

THERE IS NO CREDIBLE BASIS FOR SOME OF THESE FOLKS THAT WILL LITERALLY NOT WAIT UNTIL THURSDAY.

IT WILL BE TOMORROW NIGHT AND THEY WILL GO TO BED AND WAKE UP ON WEDNESDAY AND SAY, DEMOCRATS RIGGED IT AGAIN.

THERE'S NO PROOF OF THAT.

WHAT IT IS IS THEY ARE REPEATING WHAT IS SAID FROM THE TOP.

AND AS STUART SAID WHAT IS FOR CERTAIN IS THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL CLAIM VICTORY IN IN STATES HE HAS NO BUSINESS CLAIMING VICTORY IN.

WILL DENY PROOF IN FRONT OF HIM AND EGG ON THOSE WHO HAVE BOUGHT INTO THE CONSPIRACY THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST HIM AND FOLKS WHO FOLLOW HIM.

WHEN THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT THE CASE.

>> Renee: YOUR RESPONSE?

>> I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF ANXIETY AND A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THIS RACE, RIGHT?

AND I THINK ANYTIME YOU LENGTH EN THE TIME TO WHEN SOMEONE CAST THE VOTE TO THE RESULTS THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE WHAT'S HAPPENING WHAT IS GOING ON WHY DON'T I KNOW THAT.

BUT TO COLEMAN'S POINT I THINK OUR SECRETARIES OF STATE DO A GREAT JOB.

KUDOS TO MICHAEL ADAMS WORKED IN A BIPARTISAN FASHION AND I THINK HAS DONE WELL TO DISPUTE AND REFUTE ANY OF THE THEORIES THAT POP-UP IN KENTUCKY.

WISH WE LIVED IN A WORLD WHERE WE WE KNOW ON ELECTION NIGHT I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE.

>> AMERICANS WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT.

AND THERE MAYBE NATIONAL SURVEYS THAT THE SHOW PEOPLE HAVE DISTRUST IN NATIONAL ELECTIONS, TO COLEMAN'S POINT PEOPLE STILL HAVE A TENDENCY TO BE TRUSTING OF THEIR STATE AND LOCAL ELECTION OFFICIALS.

IT'S SORT OF LIKE EVERYBODY HATES CONGRESS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE SAME PEOPLE COME BACK OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I DON'T LIKE CONGRESS EXCEPT FOR MY PERSON.

SAME THING IS TRUE WITH ELECTIONS.

AND THE GOOD NEWS IS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THERE'S BEEN A CORE BASELINE OF LAWS AND PRACTICES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

FROM MAKING SURE THAT SCANNING EQUIPMENT IS TESTED AND ACCURATE.

MAKING SURE THERE IS A PAPER BALLOT TRAIL THAT IS THERE THAT CAN BE AUDITED.

THESE THINGS ARE IN PLACE ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT VIEWERS CAN LEAVE THIS SHOW WITH IS KNOWING THAT THIS ELECTION IS GOING TO BE FAIR.

AND IT'S BECAUSE IN RECENT YEARS LAWS HAVE CHANGED TO ENSURE THAT THE TYPES OF TRAILS ARE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CORRECT.

>> Renee: GOOD WORD TO END ON.

THIS QUESTION FROM WILLIAM BALDWIN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW KENTUCKY HAS HISTORICALLY LEANED DIFFERENTLY IN LOCAL AND NATIONAL RACES WE ARE MORE CONFIDENT IN DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP LOCALLY AND MORE CONSERVATIVE IN NATIONAL RACES IS THAT CHANGING SOMEWHAT?

>> I THINK THAT TRAIN HAS LEFT THE STATION.

YOU LOOK AT COUNTY JUDGES AND LOCAL OFFICIALS AROUND THE STATE, IT'S LARGELY A REPUBLICAN GROUP.

AND DURING MUCH OF MY CHAIRMANSHIP, THAT REALLY WASN'T THE CASE.

WE HAD A CORE GROUP OF REPUBLICANS AND CORE HOUSES THAT GREW STEADILY.

BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GET INTO THE EARLY 20-TEENS AND YOU SEE THIS CHURN.

AND IT HAS CONTINUED TO DO IT.

NOW, IN SOME CITIES REPUBLICANS STILL HAVE TROUBLE GETTING MAYORS OR MEMBERS ON COUNCILS, SCHOOL BOARDS ARE A TOUGH NUT TO CRACK.

THE ONE PERSONALITY THAT PERSISTED AND SORT OF DEFIED THE REGISTRATION REALITY IN KENTUCKY HAS BEEN ANDY BESHEAR.

AND HE IS IN HIS LAST TERM.

WE'LL SEE IF THAT TREND TOWARDS BEING MORE AGREEABLE WITH THE LEFT OF CENTER OR EVEN FAR LEFT DEMOCRAT NOMINEE NOR GOVERNOR IS GOING TO FLY AFTER HE LEAVES OFFICE.

I SUSPECT IT WILL BE A LOT BEFORE WE SEE ANOTHER ONE IN THERE WHEN HE LEAVES.

>> Renee: WE WILL SAVE THAT CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY.

>> WE HAVE TO COME BACK MANY.

>> Renee: THAT SEA RIGHT MR. CHAIRMAN.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS AND WE HAVE.

I'M GOING TO REDIRECT YOU.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT TWO WEEKS AGO AND SEPTEMBER 16TH, IN THE SUMMER EVERY NIGHT ON KENTUCKY EDITION BOTH SIDES.

SO WE'VE GIVEN A LOT OF ATTENTION AND INFORMATION THAT HELPS YOU MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ONE AND TWO.

LET'S START WITH TWO.

BECAUSE THERE IS A FAMILIAR FACE ON THIS PANEL WHO IS NOW A STAR, I GUESS.

>> ME AND MY WIFE AND MY FAKE SON.

>> CAT'S OUT OF THE BAG ON THIS.

>> MY DAUGHTER HAD A STOMACH BUG.

>> Renee: THE DAY OF THE FILMING?

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE COULD HAVE SAT STILL.

>> Renee: YOU WERE IN AN AD THAT IS AGAINST AMENDMENT 2.

WHY DO YOU FEEL SO STRONGLY ABOUT THAT?

>> I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WE NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC DOLLARS FROM OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN DIRE NEED OF SUPPORT.

AND DIVERT THAT AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC SCHOOL CHILDREN WHO NEED THAT HELP.

I DON'T SEE A LOT OF KENTUCKIANS SAYING YOU KNOW WHAT PUBLIC SCHOOL KIDS NEED LESS OF?

IS SUPPORT.

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

ON TOP OF THAT, YOU ARE GOING ALL RIGHT SO YOU WILL TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT?

THEY WILL TELL US LATER.

ALL WE THOUGH THIS WOULD GIVE THE LEGISLATURE THE ABILITY TO REDIRECT FUNDS FROM PUBLIC SCHOOL KIDS ELSEWHERE.

AND I THINK IT'S DANGEROUS.

I THINK OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL KIDS NEED ALL THE SUPPORT THEY CAN GET.

>> I THINK WHAT THE AMENDMENT ALLOWS IS FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS TO NONPUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THE AMENDMENT DOESN'T SAY YES TO THIS, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE MONEY AWAY, TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND SEND IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE AMENDMENT SAYS.

THE AMENDMENT SAYS THAT THE LEGISLATURE COULD PASS LAWS TO APPROPRIATE MONEY TO NONPUBLIC SCHOOLS.

NOW, PERSONALLY, I THINK AMENDMENT TWO IS GOING TO HAVE A TOUGH ROAD TOMORROW.

I REALLY DO.

I THINK.

>> Renee: DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US THE OVER UNDER ON THAT?

HONESTLY?

>> I THINK IT COULD BE 55-45, 60-40.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE -- AGAINST.

AND I THINK -- I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO THE OPPOSITION CAMPAIGN.

THEY WERE VERY -- I THINK THEY HAD AN EASIER MESSAGING CAMPAIGN TO FOLLOW.

BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO EDUCATE ANYONE AS TO WHY THEY NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

SO I THINK THEY STARTED OUT WITH AN ADVANTAGE HAVING THE EASIER RACE TO RUN.

BUT SECONDLY, THEY WERE SMART TO GO IN AND BASICALLY SAY REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO GIVE VOUCHERS.

AT NO POINT IN MY TIME LEADING THE PARTY OR LOBBYING MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAVE I EVER SEEN A VOUCHER BILL PASSED.

NOR HAVE I EVER SEEN ONE GET A HEARING IN A COMMITTEE.

BUT THEY WERE VERY SMART TO LATCH ON TO ONE THING THAT THEIR POLLING TOLD THEM PEOPLE WOULDN'T LIKE.

AND THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN CREDIT FOR BEING THAT SMART.

BOTH SIDES ARE EQUALLY FUNDED.

THERE'S BEEN BY NOW, CERTAINLY MORE THAN $16 MILLION SPENT.

LAST TIME WE SAW IT MAYBE IT WAS EVENLY SPLIT $8 MILLION PER SIDE ON THE OPPOSITION SIDE THEY HAD TWO GROUPS SPENDING $8 MILLION ON THE SIDE THAT IS FOR THE AMENDMENT, THERE'S FIVE OR SIX GROUPS.

ANYTIME YOU CAN HAVE TWO GROUPS SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY VERSUS THIS MANY GROUPS SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IT'S EASIER TO COORDINATE YOUR MESSAGE HERE THAN IT IS HERE.

AND SO I THINK THAT FROM A TACTICAL STANDPOINT THERE ARE A LOT OF ADVANTAGES ON THE OPPOSITION SIDE.

AND IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE THAT.

LET'S TALK CHARTER SCHOOLS WHICH IS A BILL THAT THE LEGISLATURE PASS ADD LONG WITH EDUCATION SAVINGS ACCOUNTS.

WHICH DIDN'T TAKE MONEY FROM ANY PUBLIC SCHOOL SCENARIO.

BUT CHARTER SCHOOLS.

SCHOOL CHOICE GENERALLY.

THERE HAVE BEEN PRETTY POPULAR DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTS THESE ARE ALWAYS BIPARTISAN ISSUES.

BARACK OBAMA WAS HUGE PROPONENTS OF CHARTER SCHOOLS.

BILL CLINTON WAS A HUGE PROPONENT OF CHARTER SCHOOLS BECAUSE WHAT THEY SAW IN THE AREAS WHERE THEY LIVED AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY WORKED IN THERE WERE SOME SCHOOLS THAT WEREN'T SERVING THE NEEDS OF THAT CHILD AND THAT FAMILY.

AND THEY SAW THE VALUE OF GIVING THAT FAMILY A MECHANISM TO MAKE A DECISION THAT IS BEST FOR THEIR CHILD.

AND I THINK THAT IS AT A BASE LEVEL THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN LOST IN THIS DISCUSSION.

I THINK NOW, THE FORCES SUPPORTING AMENDMENT TWO ARE MAINLY CAMPAIGNING ON DONALD TRUMP.

RIGHT?

AND IN KENTUCKY DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO GET 65% OF THE VOTE PLUS IN KENTUCKY HE IS GOING TO WIN KENTUCKY WE ARE NOT A BATTLEGROUND STATE.

BUT THERE ARE VERY BASIC THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN LOST IN THE CONVERSATION THAT SHOULD MATTER TO A SINGLE MOM, WHOSE CHILD IS STRUGGLING IN A SCHOOL THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO CARE.

AND SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO GET HER CHILD OUT.

>> Renee: MAKES SENSE.

>> LET ME SAY AS THE SON OF A SINGLE MOM, WHO YOU KNOW, WAS DYSLEXIC BUT WAS FORTUNATE TO GROW UP AND GO TO HARRISON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THAT ACTUALLY ISN'T BEING LOST.

THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT PARENTS AND FOLKS IN COMMUNITIES ARE ABSOLUTELY SEEING, WHICH IS THAT -- AGAIN, IT'S INTERESTING TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AS IF THEY ARE NOT PART OF A LARGER PICTURE.

IT'S BEEN THE KENTUCKY REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE WHO UNDER MATT BEVIN HAVE CONTINUED A WAR AGAINST PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATORS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, PUBLIC SCHOOL FAMILIES, WE HAVE SEEN THIS LITIGATED TIME AND -- LET ME FINISH.

TIME AFTER FINAL AFTER TIME.

THEY RAISED FUNDING FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION IN THE LAST BUDGET.

THEY FULLY FUNDED TRANSPORTATION.

>> NO, THEY DID NOT.

NO THEY DID NOT.

THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE NOT.

>> FULL-DAY KINDERGARTEN.

ANTI-PUBLIC EDUCATION LEGISLATURE.

JUST, PLEASE, GET A BASE LEVEL IT HAS -- >> IT HAS BEEN [ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> NO ONE IN THE LEGISLATURE THEY ARE -- AND THE LEGISLATURE IS AGAINST PUBLIC EDUCATION.

EVERYBODY IN THE LEGISLATURE WANTS PUBLIC EDUCATION TO BE THE PUBLIC IT CAN BE.

>> Renee: GENTLEMEN ONE AT A TIME.

NOT TWO OR THREE AT A TIME.

>> THEY WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR CHILD WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

>> NOW, I RESPECTFULLY LET YOU FINISH.

>> [ALL TALKING AT ONCE] THE SINGLE MOTHER I WAS TALKING ABOUT RAISED ME WITH MANNERS SO I KNOW BETTER.

IT IS FACTUALLY INACCURATE.

WHO BELIEVES THAT KENTUCKY REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE ARE AGAINST PUBLIC SCHOOLS?

LOTS OF PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATORS WHO HAVE SUFFERED UNDER WHETHER IT WAS MATT BEVIN AND THE SEWER BILL.

WHETHER IT WAS SAYING YOU CAN SAY THAT WE FUNDED TRANSPORTATION, BUT NO NOT AT THE LEVELS THAT CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED TO DO.

AMENDMENT TWO, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT ABSOLUTELY RESONATES IS BECAUSE FOLKS UNDERSTAND THE ATTACK ON LOCAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THEY UNDERSTAND THAT AS WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER STATES, IF AMENDMENT TWO WERE TO PASS, IT IS A THEFT OF DOLLARS OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

IT IS A LOSS OF PUBLIC SCHOOL JOBS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

IT IS HEMORRHAGING THE FABRIC OF OUR MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES OF WHICH, BY THE WAY, IN THE MAJORITY OF OUR COMMUNITIES, PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE THE NUMBER ONE EMPLOYER.

IT IS AN ABSOLUTE THREAT TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

>> THERESA BROOKS A TEACHER SAYS HOW CAN THE VOTE YES SUPPORTERS GET AWAY WITH ADS WHICH FALSELY CLAIM TO INCREASE TEACHER PAY AND IMPROVE TEST SCORES OF STUDENTS WHO HAVE SCHOOL CHOICE.

AREN'T THE ADS FACT CHECKED BEFORE AIRED?

HOW CAN YES VOTERS CLAIM AN INFUSION OF CASH WHEN PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE STRUGGLING FOR SUPPORT FROM STATE GOVERNMENT?

>> I WILL JUMP IN ON THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK.

I WILL ADMIT, I THINK BOTH SIDES ON THIS CAMPAIGN ON AMENDMENT 2 HAVE STRETCHED THE TRUTH A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK TO SAY THAT PASSAGE OF AMENDMENT 2 WILL DIRECTLY INCREASE TEACHER PAY IS NOT ACCURATE.

AND ALSO PASSAGE OF AMENDMENT 2 DOES NOT SETUP A VOUCHER PROGRAM ON NOVEMBER 8.

WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE TYPES OF MESSAGES OUT THERE IT'S HARD FOR VOTERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT AMENDMENT 2 DOES.

AND BACK TO THE BASICS.

CIVICS MATTERS.

>> AT THE START OF THE COMMERCIAL THAT IS NOT WHAT OUR COMMERCIAL SAYS.

>> YOUR COMMERCIAL.

LET ME FINISH, STUART.

WHAT I THINK WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IS THAT THE PASSAGE OF AMENDMENT TWO EMPOWERS OUR LEGISLATURE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, PROPOSE, DEBATE, VOTE ON BILLS OF WHAT THEY WANT AT KENTUCKY'S EDUCATION TO LOOK LIKE AND FUNDING MECHANISMS TO LOOK LIKE.

AND GUESS WHAT?

IF PUBLIC EDUCATORS AND VOTERS DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY DID, VOTE THEM OUT.

BUT THERE IS A REASON THIS IS ON THE BALLOT.

IT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS ARE CLAMORING FOR OTHER OPTIONS AS WE SEE MANY OF OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS PROUD PUBLIC SCHOOL GRADUATED FROM HARRODSBURG HIGH SCHOOL.

NOT ALL OF OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE IN A STATE OF FAILURE.

BUT SOME OF THEM WHEN PEOPLE NEED OPTIONS IN THEIR DISTRICTS IN THEIR AREAS.

AND THIS IS A WAY TO ALLOW THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO HAPPEN.

IF WE ARE SCARED TO ALLOW OUR RENTS AND SENATORS TO HAVE DEBATE, THAT'S WRONG.

THAT IS WHAT WE LITERALLY EMPOWER THEM TO DO.

>> Renee: AMENDMENT 2.

>> THIS HAS BEEN TRIED IN OTHER STATES.

VOUCHERS IS ONE SOURCE OF WHERE THE PUBLIC FUNDS WOULD GO.

ALL OF THEM ARE WRONG.

PUBLIC FUNDS SHOULD GO TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE MONEY THAT IS AT PLAY IN THESE AMENDMENTS OF THE $8 MILLION ON THE YES CAMPAIGN AT LEAST $5 MILLION MOST OF IT CAME FROM A SINGLE BILLIONAIRE IN PENNSYLVANIA.

THIS IS NOT A KENTUCKY INITIATIVE.

THIS IS NOT KENTUCKY FAMILIES SAYING WE WANT TO SPEND PUBLIC MONEY ON EDUCATION BEYOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THIS IS SOMETHING AN AGENDA BEYOND THAT IS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT KENTUCKY FAMILIES.

>> AND I THINK A LOT OF MONEY ON THE NO SIDE HAS COME FROM NATIONAL LABOR UNIONS AND NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT IS DISINGENUOUS BOTH SIDES ARE RAISING IT IS A BUSINESS.

BOTH SIDES ARE RAISING AS MUCH AS THEY CAN TO GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT AND THAT IS TRUE ON BOTH SIDES MONEY IS COMING FROM INSTATE AND OUT OF STATE ON BOTH SIDES.

THAT IS NOT A FAIR POINT.

>> Renee: AND STRAIGHT LEGISLATIVE RACES LET'S START WITH THE HOUSE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT A LOT TOMORROW NIGHT.

OKAY LET'S GO WITH I WANT YOU TO GIVE ME, AMY, ONES YOU HAVE YOUR EYES ON?

GIVE ME THREE.

>> THAT IS THE FULL LIST.

>> THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF COMPETITIVES.

HOUSE DISTRICT 45 HERE IN FAYETTE COUNTY.

THAT, OF COURSE, IS CURRENT REPRESENTATIVE KELLY AN TIM ANY'S SEAT.

I'M WATCHING HOUSE DISTRICT 31 AND 48.

>> Renee: WHY ARE YOU WATCHING THOSE?

>> I THINK ANY OF THE REPUBLICANS RUNNING IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, ESPECIALLY IN A PRESIDENTIAL YEAR, WE KNOW THAT HARRIS WILL DO WELL IN JEFFERSON COUNTY.

ANYTIME YOU HAVE A TOP OF THE TICKET THAT WE KNOW WILL DO WELL ON ONE SIDE, YOU WORRY ABOUT HOW THAT TRICKLE DOWN AFFECTS ON YOUR DOWN BALLOT MEASURES.

WHITTEN AND FLEMING HAVE BEEN RUNNING STELLAR CAMPAIGNS, EXCELLENT REPRESENTATIVES FOR THEIR DISTRICTS.

I THINK THEY'VE BEEN THEY REALLY ARE IN TUNE TO WHAT THE DISTRICTS NEED AND WHAT THE VOTERS ARE LOOKING FOR.

THEY HAVE BEEN HITTING THE PAVEMENT WALKING HUNDREDS OF MILES KNOCKING ON THOUSANDS OF DOORS AND HOUSE DISTRICT 45 THIS IS ONE THAT IS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU HAVE THOMAS JEFFERSON, THE REPUBLICAN.

YOU HAVE ADAM MOORE WHO IS THE DEMOCRAT.

BUT ADAM MOORE HAS BEEN ON TV HIS THIRD AD NOW I'M GETTING TO SEE THEM LIVING IN LEXINGTON.

THE MESSAGING ON HIS ADS I THINK ARE TARGETED TO WHAT THAT DISTRICT AS WELL.

MORE ON THE CONSERVATIVE MODERATE, MIDDLE GROUND.

TALKING ABOUT DEFENDING PERSONAL FREEDOMS AND THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE LIES IN THE PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT NOT NECESSARILY IN BIGGER GOVERNMENT.

>> Renee: SOUNDS LIKE A REPUBLICAN.

>> WHAT WE WOULD HEAR FROM A REPUBLICAN NOT A DEMOCRAT.

>> Renee: CHIME IN ABOUT ADAM MOORE AND THE MESSAGING HE IS PUTTING OUT THERE.

>> WITH ADAM AND SO MANY OF OUR CANDIDATES, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT WE ARE ILLUSTRATING IS THE CHOICE THAT KENTUCKIANS HAVE.

WE HAVE A LEGISLATURE THAT HAS IMPLEMENTED A VERY CRUEL AGENDA SO IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY.

IF YOU ARE A WOMAN YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NOW HAVE A NEAR ABORTION BAN TOTAL ABORTION BAN AND BEING ABLE TO LIVE IN A COMMONWEALTH WHERE YOU HAVE AUTONOMY OVER YOUR BODY AND MAKE YOUR OWN HEALTHCARE CHOICES.

THAT'S NOT SOUNDING LIKE A REPUBLICAN THAT IS SOUNDING LIKE SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO TO ROBERT STIVERS OR DAVID OSBORNE IF THEY NEED AN ABORTION OR IF THEY ARE BLEEDING OUT IN A LOBBY.

SO HAVING SOMEONE LIKE ADAM MOORE WHO HAS DEFENDED HIS NATION IN UNIFORM, WHO IS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER SAY YOU KNOW WHAT ENOUGH'S ENOUGH WITH THIS CRAZY CRUEL AGENDA.

ENOUGH WITH THE UNHINGED CANDIDATE THAT IS RUNNING AGAINST ME.

IF YOU ELECT ME, YES, I'M RUNNING AS A DEMOCRAT, ANDY BESHEAR SAYS THIS ALL THE TIME AND PEOPLE FORGET HOW IMPACTFUL IT IS, IT IS POSSIBLE TO RUN AS A DEMOCRAT AND GOVERN AS A KEBBIAN AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE HEARING FROM ADAM MOORE AND PEOPLE FORGET WE CAN DO THOSE THINGS.

I'M REALLY PROUD OF US HAVING CANDIDATES WHO ARE ABLE TO IN A VERY PARTISAN KIND OF NOT ALWAYS KIND ENVIRONMENT RAISE THE LEVEL OF THE CONVERSATION IN A WAY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO VOTE FOR THEM FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS.

>> Renee: SPEAKING OF CHERYL LYNN STEVENSON IN HOUSE DISTRICT 88 IS SHE VULNERABLE THE DEMOCRAT?

>> REPUBLICANS HAVE TRIED TO WIN THAT SEAT SINCE SHE WON IT.

AND THE THING THAT I KNOW ABOUT THIS, AND AGAIN I WILL LINK THIS BACK TO OUR FIRST PART OF THE CONVERSATION YOUR ORGANIZATION MATTERS.

SHARE LYNN STEVENSON, THE WAY SHE HAS WON THE RACES SHE IS KNOWN IN THAT DISTRICT, PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN DEPEND ON HER.

BUT SHE HAS A GROUND GAME THAT IS UNLIKE ANY OTHER.

YOU KNOW, I THINK FOLKS HAVE TAKEN THEIR BEST EFFORT TO TAKE DOWN CHERYL LYNN STEVENSON.

I THINK THEY RAN SOMEONE AGAINST HER WHO FRANKLY I SERVED ON THE SCOTT COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE A FEW YEARS AGO.

SO SHE CAN'T DECIDE WHAT SIDE OF THE AISLE SHE WANTS TO BE ON.

AND CHERYL LYNN STEVENSON DECIDED SHE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUT THE PEOPLE FIRST.

>> Renee: TELL US ABOUT VANESSA GRASSO.

>> I THINK THAT DISTRICT WILL ALWAYS BE A PURPLE DISTRICT.

CHERYL LYNN WON BOTH TIMES BY RAZOR THIN MARGINS, 27 VOTES.

VANESSA IS A NEWCOMER TO THE SCENE ON RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

SHE HAS BEEN RUNNING A GOOD CAMPAIGN TRYING TO BE OUT AND ABOUT AMONG THE VOTERS AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHO SHE IS.

IT'S HARDING TO AGAINST CHERYL LYNN STEVENSON WHO KNOWS HOW TO PUT THAT GROUND GAME TOGETHER.

BUT, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW THE REPUBLICAN PERFORMANCE IN 2020 IN A PRESIDENTIAL YEAR THAT GIVES A BUMP ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.

BUT, AGAIN, CHERYL LYNN KNOWS HOW TO WIN THAT DISTRICT.

YOU CAN'T COUNT HER OUT AND I EXPECT IT WILL BE ONE OF THE RACES THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT INTO THE NIGHT TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE WINNER IS.

>> I THINK THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE TO ACTUALLY EXPAND THEIR MAJORITY.

I REALLY DO.

>> Renee: THE REPUBLICANS WILL EXPAND IT TO WHAT IS THE NUMBER 85?

>> THERE ARE ONLY A FEW DISTRICTS ARE LEGITIMATELY IN PLAY ON EITHER SIDE BECAUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE SO MANY OF THEM.

I MEAN, I THINK MAYBE THERE'S, I THINK THOMAS JEFFERSON IS GOING TO WIN IN DISTRICT 45 TOMORROW.

I THINK THAT LOUISVILLE, THE TWO RACES THAT AMY POINTED OUT IN LOUISVILLE, I THINK CERTAINLY KEN FLEMING AND SUSAN WHITTEN ARE IMPORTANT TO WATCH.

I THINK -- >> Renee: WHAT ABOUT STEPHANIE DEETS?

>> I THINK SHE IS GOING TO BE OKAY.

I THINK THAT MAILER SET PEOPLE OFF UP THERE.

>> LET'S BE CLEAR.

IT WASN'T COLEMAN.

>> THERE'S THREE DEMOCRAT INCUMBENTS UP THERE THAT STAND A CHANCE OF NOT MAKING IT OVER THE TOP.

BUT YOU'VE GOT LAUGHERTY OUT IN EASTERN KENTUCKY.

RACHEL ROURKES COULD HAVE A RACE ON HER HANDS.

>> Renee: SHE IS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY.

>> AND THERE IS AN OPEN SEAT, RACHEL ROBERTS' SEAT THAT MIGHT BE ONE THAT REPUBLICANS CAN PICK UP ON AN OPEN SEATED THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE WHERE THERE IS A SCENARIO WHERE THERE COULD BE MORE THAN 80 REPUBLICANS.

REGARDLESS, IN A VERY SAGE AND WISE FRIEND OF MINE THE OTHER DAY TOLD ME THAT REPUBLICANS WE'RE GOING TO WIN A LOT MORE THAN THEY WERE GOING TO LOSE.

>> Renee: AND WHAT DID THIS SAY, AMY ABOUT THE EXPANDING THAT SUPER MAJORITY TO 83, 85.

WHAT KIND OF CHALLENGE OR REWARD DOES THAT PRESENT TO EXISTING HOUSE LEADERSHIP CURRENT HOUSE LEADERSHIP?

>> 83, 82, 80.

IT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE.

IT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE TO CORAL AND ONCE YOU START TO GROW YOU START TO HAVE MANY FACTIONS SEPARATE THEMSELVES.

NOW, I WILL SAY, SPEAKER DAVID OSBORNE AND HIS LEADERSHIP TEAM HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB KEEPING THE CAUCUS TOGETHER MOVING ISSUES FORWARD.

ONE THING WE TALK ABOUT A LOT IS LOOKING AT THE GROWTH, IF THERE IS ANY, AMONG THE LIBERTY CAUCUS THAT LIBERTY MOVEMENT PARTY.

AND I THINK THERE COULD BE ONE, TWO PICK UP IN THE HOUSE DEPENDING HOW THE RACES SHAKE OUT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO GROW DRAMATICALLY BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE WATCH FROM A POLITICAL ASPECT.

>> Renee: ON THE JEFFERSON COUNTY RACES MENTIONED, TALK ABOUT DEMOCRATS ARE THEY UNDERESTIMATED HERE?

>> SO ME, I SEE A CONSISTENT THING HAPPENING IN STATES WITH REPUBLICAN ABORTION BANS.

IS THAT THERE IS A GIANT GENDER GAP.

THESE ARE VERY UPSET WITH THE CONTROL OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS TRYING TO TAKEOVER WOMEN'S BODILY AUTONOMY AND OTHER FACETS OF PEOPLE'S LIVES.

AND I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE A BACKLASH.

I DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE DEMOCRATIC, I DO THINK YOU ARE RIGHT THERE IS NOT A THREAT TO THE SUPER MAJORITY.

BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE SERIOUS GAINS IN THE HOUSE PARTICULARLY IN LOUISVILLE, LEXINGTON.

>> Renee: WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF PICKUPS?

>> THAT IS NOT MY KIND OF PREDICTION.

I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF WE DIDN'T PICK UP FIVE OR MORE.

>> Renee: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HEARD IT HERE.

WE'LL SEE WE WILL TEST THAT THEORY TOMORROW NIGHT.

WITH A MINUTE 30 SECONDS, COLEMAN?

>> LAST WORDS?

QUICKLY 20 SECONDS.

>> GO VOTED.

>> Renee: OKAY.

SCOTT MADE EN, MADON.

FOR THE WRITE IN FOLKS IN SOUTHEAST KENTUCKY.

>> Renee: SENATE 29.

WHY SHOULD THEY VOTE THEY HAVE TO WRITE HIM IN THERE ARE 11 NAMES.

>> THEY HAVE TO WRITE HIM IN.

SCOTT HAS BEEN MAYOR OF PINEVILLE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

VERY ACTIVE IN BELL COUNTY.

AND THIS OLD TIMER BACK IN MY DAY AS CHAIRMAN KNEW THE FAMILY.

THEY ARE QUALITY PEOPLE AND SCOTT WILL MAKE A GREAT SENATOR.

HAL ROGERS AND THE SENATE REPUBLICANS AND JOHNNY TURNERS FAMILY HAVE GOTTEN BEHIND HIM.

>> Renee: DEMOCRATS RUNNING IN THAT WRITE IN ELECTION?

>> YES.

>> Renee: ARE YOU GOING TO THROW OUT A NAME?

>> WE'RE PROMOTING THAT CANDIDATE.

AS WELLS I WILL SAY IN A NONPARTISAN VIEW, THE RACE FOR KENTUCKY SUPREME COURT.

>> Renee: WE'LL TALK ABOUT AT THAT TIME TOMORROW NIGHT TO BE CONTINUED TOMORROW NIGHT.

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