NARRATOR: CHAPLAINS-- MEN AND WOMEN WHO REPRESENT THEIR OWN PARTICULAR FAITH OR RELIGIOUS TRADITION BUT BECAUSE THEY WORK MOSTLY IN PUBLIC SETTINGS ARE TRAINED TO BE OF COMFORT AND SUPPORT FOR EVERYONE-- RELIGIOUS OR NOT.

THERE HAVE BEEN CHAPLAINS ON THE BATTLEFIELD FOR CENTURIES.

TODAY THE BATTLEFIELD CAN BE ANYWHERE PEOPLE FACE DANGER, DARKNESS, OR DESPAIR, OR WHERE PEOPLE SIMPLY SEEK A SPIRITUAL VOICE IN A TIME OF NEED.

CONROY: NOBODY REALLY NEEDS THE CHAPLAIN UNTIL YOU REALLY NEED THE CHAPLAIN.

KARUNA THOMPSON: WHAT A CHAPLAIN DOES IS LEANS INTO THE PAINFUL PLACES.

ROSENBERG: I AM A RABBI BY FAITH, BUT I'M A CHAPLAIN BY TRADE.

MELISSA: I CAN ENCOURAGE HER, I CAN CALL HER, I CAN PRAY FOR HER, BUT I CAN'T FIX IT.

HURLEY: SO REALLY AS A CHAPLAIN, YOU'RE OUT THERE.

YOU'RE WITH THE SOLDIERS.

YOU'RE WITH THE TROOPS WHEREVER THEY ARE.

MAULDIN: WHEN YOU'RE IN SUCH A COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT SUCH AS WE ARE, YOU CAN BE AFRAID TO TALK BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO APPEAR TO BE WEAK.

ENNIS-DURSTINE: I THINK FAMILIES TEND OFTEN TO BE VERY ANGRY WITH GOD.

REFAI: WE FELT THAT THERE WAS, LIKE, A WALL IN BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY.

BLACK: SO I AM THE PASTOR FOR APPROXIMATELY 7,000 PEOPLE WHO MAKE UP THE SENATE SIDE OF CAPITOL HILL.

MILLER: IN MANY WAYS THEY LOOK LIKE A SOCIAL WORKER.

THEY'RE HELPING PEOPLE SOLVE LIFE'S PROBLEMS... NARRATOR: PASTOR, SOCIAL WORKER, COUNSELOR, BRIDGE BUILDER.

CHAPLAINCY TODAY IS AN EMERGING PROFESSION THAT STRUGGLES TO DEFINE ITSELF AS IT FACES CHALLENGES ON MANY FRONTS.

BUT CHAPLAINS OFFER A WINDOW INTO HOW TO VIEW RELIGION, FAITH, AND SPIRITUALITY IN A RELIGIOUSLY DIVERSE AMERICA THAT VALUES THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, EVEN THOUGH EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS NOT ALWAYS CLEAR.

ANNOUNCER: THIS PROGRAM WAS MADE POSSIBLE WITH SUPPORT FROM LILLY ENDOWMENT, THE ARTHUR VINING DAVIS FOUNDATIONS, THE HENRY LUCE FOUNDATION, THE FETZER INSTITUTE, AND THE E. RHODES & LEONA B. CARPENTER FOUNDATION.

MULCAHY, VOICE-OVER: AS I WRITE THIS, NO ONE HAS SHOWN UP FOR MY 10:00 ECUMENICAL SERVICE, BUT I'M NOT DISAPPOINTED YET.

IT'S ONLY 11:30.

I GUESS MY SERMON IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT YOU'D CALL A HOT TICKET.

I DO GIVE LAST RITES TO THE DYING, SIS.

BUT IF ONLY THERE WERE SOMETHING I COULD DO FOR THE LIVING.

[HELICOPTER] I'M FATHER PAUL HURLEY.

I AM THE, UH, SENIOR CHAPLAIN HERE IN AFGHANISTAN, WHICH, UH, WOULD INCLUDE ALL THE U.S.

FORCES-- ARMY, AIR FORCE, MARINES, NAVY.

AS A CHAPLAIN, YOU'RE OUT THERE.

YOU'RE WITH THE SOLDIERS.

YOU'RE WITH THE TROOPS WHEREVER THEY ARE.

[DISTANT GUNFIRE] NARRATOR: SINCE 2003, AMERICA HAS BEEN ENTRENCHED IN THE LONGEST WAR IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY.

IT'S BEEN FOUGHT IN OPEN FIELDS, AND SOMETIMES HOUSE TO HOUSE, A WAR OF WEAPONS AND A WAR OF NERVES.

AND CHAPLAINS HAVE BEEN THERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

HURLEY: WE PRAY FOR OUR OWN BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO HAVE BEEN LOST, ESPECIALLY, UH, THE LOSSES WE'VE EXPERIENCED THIS PAST WEEK HERE IN THEATER, THAT THESE WHO HAVE GIVEN THEMSELVES FOR THE SAKE OF OTHERS AND THEIR FAMILIES MAY KNOW GOD'S CONSOLATION AND THE FULLNESS OF LIFE.

WE PRAY TO THE LORD.

SERVICE ATTENDEES: LORD, HEAR OUR PRAYER.

NARRATOR: DATING BACK TO THE ANCIENT WORLD, WHEN SOLDIERS TOOK TO THE BATTLEFIELD, SOMEONE REPRESENTING THE DIVINE WAS AT THEIR SIDE.

IN THE AMERICAN MILITARY, THE CHAPLAIN IS CONSIDERED A NON-COMBATANT BECAUSE HE STANDS BESIDE HIS FELLOW SOLDIERS WITHOUT A WEAPON.

THE MOST CELEBRATED MAY BE THE FOUR CHAPLAINS FROM WORLD WAR II.

WHEN THE TRANSPORT SHIP THE "DORCHESTER" WAS TORPEDOED, A CATHOLIC, A JEW, AND TWO PROTESTANT CHAPLAINS HELPED SOLDIERS TO SAFETY, THEN GAVE UP THEIR OWN LIFE VESTS TO SAVE OTHERS.

ARM IN ARM, THEY SANG "AMAZING GRACE" AS THE SHIP WENT DOWN.

CHAPLAINS FROM DIFFERENT FAITHS SERVING BOTH GOD AND COUNTRY, ACTING TOGETHER WITH COURAGE AND SELFLESSNESS IS THE HEART OF THE TRADITION.

HURLEY: GEORGE WASHINGTON.

I MEAN, HERE IS THE FIRST GENERAL OF ANY U.S. ARMY.

AND THEN THE FIRST THING HE DOES, HE WRITES TO CONGRESS, AND HE SAYS, "I WANT YOU TO PROVIDE ME RESOURCES TO HIRE-- TO BRING IN CHAPLAINS."

SO WE HAVE A LONG, LONG, RICH HISTORY OF MILITARY SERVICE.

WE BRING THIS PRESENCE OF-- OF OTHER--YOU KNOW, OF--OF GOD-- TO PEOPLE, AND THEY NEED THAT.

HI.

HOW ARE YOU?

GOOD.

LIEUTENANT VAUGHN, SIR.

HOW YOU DOING?

NARRATOR: AS SENIOR CHAPLAIN, OVERSEEING AT TIMES AS MANY AS ONE HUNDRED CHAPLAINS OF DIFFERENT FAITHS, PAUL HURLEY MUST TRAVEL ACROSS THE THEATER TO THE VARIOUS FORWARD OPERATING BASES TO MAKE SURE THE TEAM HAS WHAT IT NEEDS.

IT MEANS TRAVELING IN ARMED CONVOY OR BY AIR.

HURLEY, VOICE-OVER: YEAH.

THIS IS KIND OF A DANGEROUS PLACE.

BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, WHAT AM I HERE FOR?

WHY AM I WEARING THIS UNIFORM?

I BELIEVE GOD HAS LED ME HERE AND GIVEN ME THIS MISSION TO CARE FOR THESE PEOPLE, TO MINISTER TO THEM, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BY ME SITTING IN ONE PLACE.

NARRATOR: BUT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE OUT IN THE FIELD ALWAYS COMES WITH DANGER.

CHAD THOMPSON: BEFORE WE EVEN GOT HERE LAST YEAR, THEY HAD A VEHICLE-BORNE IED, AND IT EXPLODED OVER HERE ON THE SOUTH--SOUTHEAST WALL, UH, AND IT CREATED A HOLE IN THE--IN THE FOB.

UH, AND THEN SOME SUICIDE BOMBERS ENTERED THE BASE.

UH, THE ENEMY DIDN'T REALLY MAKE IT TOO FAR.

WE DID LOSE A COUPLE OF SOLDIERS THERE.

NARRATOR: HELPING SOLDIERS DEAL WITH THE LOSS OF LIFE ON THE BATTLEFIELD HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE ROLE OF THE CHAPLAIN.

HURLEY: ESPECIALLY, A COUPLE YEARS AGO AT THE HEIGHT OF THE SURGE, YOU KNOW, WE LOST, LIKE, OVER 200 GUYS THAT YEAR.

AND I WAS AT THE HOSPITAL EVERY NIGHT.

MANRY: THIS IS REALLY SACRED GROUND.

THIS PLACE IS CALLED WARRIOR'S WAY.

AND IT'S THE ENTRANCE TO OUR TRAUMA FACILITY.

AND THEY BRING THE PATIENTS ON A STRETCHER, UH, AROUND THAT CORNER AND RIGHT THROUGH THIS AREA, UNDERNEATH THE FLAG, IN THROUGH THE DOUBLE DOORS THERE.

EVERY TIME I STAND HERE, I THINK OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UNDER THAT FLAG AND THE WAY THAT FLAG REPRESENTS TO THEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO CARE FOR THEM.

HURLEY: EVEN IN THE ICU WHEN-- WHEN THEY'D BRING IN A SOLDIER WHO--WHO THEY HAD TO AMPUTATE, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE LIMBS... PEOPLE I KNOW THAT WERE THERE WHO HAD NO SENSE OF WHO I WAS AS CHAPLAIN, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WOULD REACH OUT.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WOULD REACH OUT AND GRAB YOU.

[INDISTINCT CHATTER] HURLEY, VOICE-OVER: YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE IMPACTED BY THEIR BUDDIES GETTING SICK, OR, YOU KNOW, THE-- THE WOUNDS YOU CAN'T SEE.

PEOPLE ARE HURTING, PEOPLE ARE WOUNDED, YOU KNOW, INSIDE IN THEIR MINDS AND THEIR HEARTS.

IF WE'RE NOT HERE, IF WE'RE NOT AROUND, THEN THAT IS JUST GOING COMPLETELY UNTOUCHED.

HURLEY: THE LORD BE WITH YOU.

SERVICE ATTENDEES: AND WITH YOUR SPIRIT.

HURLEY: LIFT UP YOUR HEARTS.

SERVICE ATTENDEES: WE LIFT THEM UP TO THE LORD.

HURLEY: LET US GIVE THANKS TO THE LORD OUR GOD.

NARRATOR: CHAPLAIN HURLEY IS A CATHOLIC PRIEST FROM THE ARCHDIOCESE OF BOSTON.

AN IMPORTANT PART OF HIS DUTIES IS TO OFFER THE SACRAMENTS FOR THE CATHOLIC TROOPS, INCLUDING SAYING MASS WITH COMMUNION, AND OFFERING THE CHANCE TO HEAR THEIR CONFESSIONS.

HURLEY, VOICE-OVER: YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE PEOPLE THAT FACE MORTALITY HAVE A MUCH CLEARER PICTURE OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

THIS ALSO GIVES THEM THAT--THAT COMFORT AND THAT SATISFACTION THAT THEIR LIVES ARE IN RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

DO GOOD.

THANK YOU.

AVOID EVIL.

THANKS, FATHER.

EVEN YOU!

ALL RIGHT.

TAKE CARE.

GOOD SEEING YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

YOU ALL RIGHT?

ALWAYS.

YEAH?

YOU GOING TO MAKE A GOOD MONK?

PROBABLY NOT, SIR.

LET'S BE HONEST BECAUSE YOU'RE A MARINE?

NARRATOR: IT'S WHEN THEY RETURN TO THE BATTLEFIELD IN THE MIDST OF THE CHAOS, SOLDIERS ARE CALLED TO ACT IN WAYS THEY MAY NEVER FORGET.

GOULET: SOME SOLDIERS COME TO ME CONCERNED.

"FATHER, IS-- IS MY SOUL IN DANGER?

"AM I GOING TO HELL BECAUSE I DEPLOYED TO THIS WAR, AND I HAD TO SHOOT SOMEBODY?"

AND I TELL THEM, "NO, AS LONG AS YOU FOLLOWED LAWFUL ORDERS, "IT WAS SELF-DEFENSE, "YOU OBEYED THE LAWFUL ORDERS GIVEN ABOVE YOU, "YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UP TO US TO DETERMINE "WHETHER SOMETHING IS JUST OR NOT.

"THE KEY THING IS, DID YOU DO THE RIGHT THING?

"DID YOU FOLLOW LAWFUL ORDERS?

BECAUSE IF SO, YOU'RE FINE," BECAUSE IN THE END, THE CULPABILITY IN THE CATHOLIC FAITH, THE BELIEF IS, THE CULPABILITY ARE ON THOSE WHO HAVE THE LEGITIMATE AUTHORITY TO SEND PEOPLE TO WAR.

AMEN.

GO IN PEACE WITH CHRIST.

THANKS, FATHER.

ALL RIGHT.

PENNINGTON: I THINK THE SOLDIERS THINK ABOUT THE WAR, WHICH I THINK IS, UH, AN AMERICAN WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS, IS THEY COME HERE TO DO A JOB.

YOU KNOW, "OUR PEOPLE, THE GOVERNMENT, HAS SENT US HERE TO DO A JOB."

SO THEY COME TO DO A JOB, AND THEY DO IT-- WANT DO IT WELL.

AND AS A CHAPLAIN, I'M HERE FOR THE SOLDIERS.

I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THEM, UH, ANY WAY THAT I CAN.

BORSHOF: MOST OF THEM THAT COME TO TALK TO A CHAPLAIN OFTEN AREN'T USUALLY COMING TO TALK ABOUT, UH, SPIRITUAL OR RELIGIOUS ISSUES, BUT THEY OFTEN COME BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING EITHER ISSUES WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH, HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING THROUGH WITH SOMETHING OR THINGS GOING ON AT HOME.

AIRMAN: UM, I'M NON-RELIGIOUS, SO, UM, I HAVEN'T-- I HAVEN'T-- I HAVEN'T USED THE CHAPLAIN.

I HAVEN'T NEEDED TO.

I'M ALSO NON-RELIGIOUS, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT THEY--THEY DON'T TRY TO PUSH ANY ONE RELIGION ON ME.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY NON-DENOMINATIONAL.

IT'S NOT ALL A GREAT IDEA.

AND I DO SEE RESISTANCE, UH, TO MILITARY CHAPLAINCY.

UH, I'M NOT RELIGIOUS IN ANY ASPECT.

I FIND IT REALLY HARD TO BELIEVE MOST OF WHAT I HEAR AND WHAT I'VE READ GOING THROUGH OUR BIBLE.

BUT I GOT TO ADMIT, I DO ENJOY HAVING THE CHAPLAIN STOP BY.

I'VE HAD TO GO TO CHAPLAINS BEFORE.

YOU KNOW, HAVING TROUBLE BACK HOME, JUST NEEDED SOMEONE TO TALK TO.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING TO ANYBODY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S COMPLETE CONFIDENTIALITY.

I WAS GOING THROUGH SOME,UH, HARD TIMES THIS--THIS DEPLOYMENT DEALING WITH, UH, EXPERIENCE FROM THE LAST DEPLOYMENT, THE DEATH OF FRIENDS, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR-- OUR CHAPLAIN IN MY UNIT HAD REALLY HELPED ME GET THROUGH IT.

NARRATOR: BUT SERVING SOLDIERS CAN AT TIMES MEAN A CHAPLAIN'S RELIGIOUS CONVICTIONS AND THE NEED TO SERVE EVERY SOLDIER MAY BE IN CONFLICT.

HURLEY: SO FOR ME AS A CATHOLIC PRIEST, AND ALL CHAPLAINS, WE--WE WILL NEVER VIOLATE THE TENETS OF OUR FAITH.

SO WHEN THEY COME IN--IN CONFLICT, WE WILL ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, ABIDE BY OUR FAITH.

IF IT MEANS REPRESENTING, UM, SOMETHING CONTRARY TO WHAT THE MILITARY IS TRYING TO, UH-- TO REPRESENT, THEN-- THEN SO BE IT.

YOU KNOW, THE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE ISSUES THAT WE FACE AS CHAPLAINS-- WE ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT PUT IN ANY SITUATION WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO GO AGAINST WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE RIGHT, TO BE TRUE.

NOW, WE'RE HERE TO EITHER PERFORM OR TO PROVIDE FOR PEOPLE.

NARRATOR: IN THIS CASE, TO PROVIDE MEANS CONNECTING THE COUPLE WITH ANOTHER CHAPLAIN WHOSE FAITH TRADITION ALLOWS FOR SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.

AND TODAY'S MILITARY HAS A GROWING NUMBER OF NON-THEISTS, INCLUDING HUMANISTS, AGNOSTICS, AND ATHEISTS.

ALL ARE ENTITLED TO CARE AND SUPPORT FROM A CHAPLAIN.

PETROS: A FEMALE SOLDIER-- SHE HAD SOME HEAVY CONCERNS ON HER HEART FOR A UNIT SITUATION THAT WAS GENERATING A LOT OF STRESS WITHIN HER LIFE.

UM, AND TOWARDS THE END OF THE CONVERSATION WHEN I ASKED HER IF SHE WANTED-- YOU KNOW, IF SHE WOULD LIKE ME TO PRAY WITH HER IN CLOSING, SHE SAID, "WELL, CHAPLAIN, I'M--I'M ATHEIST."

AND, UH, I WAS LIKE, "WELL, THAT'S OK. "WE CAN STILL PRAY IF THAT'S FINE WITH YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO."

AND, UH, SHE'S LIKE, "NO, THAT--THAT'D BE FINE, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GIVING YOUR TIME."

NARRATOR: A NUMBER OF CHAPLAINS NOW SERVING IN AFGHANISTAN ALSO SERVED IN IRAQ.

IT'S TESTED THE ENDURANCE OF EVEN THE MOST COMMITTED.

WITH THAT CONCERN, U.S. AND COALITION CHAPLAINS, REPRESENTING A CROSS SECTION OF FAITH TRADITIONS, CAME TOGETHER TO EXPLORE WAYS TO STAY RESILIENT THROUGH THE LONG STRUGGLE.

HURLEY: PROTESTANT.

CHAPLAIN: BAPTIST.

HURLEY: BAPTIST.

CHAPLAIN #2: JEWISH.

HURLEY: JEWISH.

CHAPLAIN #3: ANGLICAN.

HURLEY: ANGLICAN.

CHAPLAIN #4: BAPTIST.

HURLEY: BAPTIST.

CHAPLAIN #5: BAPTIST.

HURLEY: SOUTHERN BAPTIST.

CHAPLAIN #6: PENTECOSTAL.

HURLEY: PENTECOSTAL.

CHAPLAIN #7: UNITED METHODIST.

HURLEY: METHODIST.

CHAPLAIN #8: PRESBYTERIAN.

CHAPLAIN #9: PROTESTANT.

HURLEY: PROTESTANT.

CHAPLAIN #10: PROTESTANT.

HURLEY: EXCELLENT.

GOING THROUGH WHAT WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE LAST 12, 13 YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, UH--WE'VE KIND OF PUT THAT VERY BASIC FUNDAMENTAL, UM, PART OF WHO WE ARE-- WE'VE KIND OF PUT THAT ON THE BACK BURNER, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN-- YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN GO, GO, GO.

RIGHT?

IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE'RE NOT BEING CARED FOR, THEN WE CAN'T CARE FOR THEM.

RIGHT?

I MEAN, IT'S-- IT'S SIMPLE.

REMEMBERING WHO... HURLEY, VOICE-OVER: REALLY KIND OF FOCUSED RIGHT NOW ON TAKING CARE OF EACH OTHER AFTER ALL THIS TIME OF DEPLOYMENTS.

THAT IS MY PRIMARY PURPOSE, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CHAPLAINS HERE ARE OK, TO MAKE SURE THE CHAPLAINS HERE HAVE WHAT THEY NEED, SO THEY CAN DO THEIR JOB, SO THAT THEY CAN MINISTER.

BORSHOF: SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN JUDAISM IS THE SABBATH, THE SHABBOS, AND, UH, IT'S VERY-- IT'S VERY HARD, ESPECIALLY IN THIS DEPLOYED SETTING, TO BE ABLE TO TAKE AN ENTIRE DAY OFF.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS FEEL LIKE SOMEONE'S LOOKING FOR US AND SOMEONE NEEDS US, AND THAT'S TRUE.

UH, BUT BEING RESILIENT ALSO MEANS BEING ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELF.

AND I THINK PART OF SELF-AWARENESS, IT'S MANY THINGS, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOURSELF.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED HELP, ASK FOR HELP.

THERE'S A RELUCTANCE, I'VE OBSERVED, OF PEOPLE WANTING TO DO THAT, BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IT JUST DIMINISHES US AS A CHAPLAIN/OFFICER/ MINISTER, SO FORTH.

PENNINGTON, VOICE-OVER: SO WE HAD SOME SUSTAINED COMBAT.

AS A BRIGADE, WE LOST 46 SOLDIERS.

I WAS ALSO ON THE GROUND WHEN A, UH, SUICIDE BOMBER WALKED INTO OUR DFAC AND EXPLODED A VEST, UM, KILLING 22, WOUNDING, REALLY, A HUNDRED.

AND AS A CHAPLAIN, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO HELP, UH, BUT WHAT I FOUND FOR MYSELF, THAT I PUSHED MYSELF TOO HARD, UH, BECOME, I WOULD SAY, SPIRITUALLY DEPLETED.

UM...

I STARTED HEARING--OR HAVING, UH, THESE THOUGHTS IN MY MIND THAT I COULDN'T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN IT HAPPENED TO ME OR IT HAPPENED TO ANOTHER SOLDIER, BECAUSE IF YOU LISTEN CONTINUALLY TO STORIES AND YOU DON'T PROCESS THEM, UH, I THINK IT TAKES A WHILE FOR THE MIND TO DO THAT.

NARRATOR: IN WAR, NOT EVERY BATTLE IS FOUGHT WITH WEAPONS.

SOMETIMES THE MOST DIFFICULT STRUGGLES ARE WAGED WITHIN.

FOR THE CHAPLAINS, THE CHALLENGE COMES IN FINDING FOR THEMSELVES AND OTHERS SOMETHING SACRED IN THE MIDST OF IT ALL.

HURLEY, VOICE-OVER: I THINK WE ARE INVOLVED IN A FIGHT AGAINST EVIL.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT HERE TO TAKE OVER ANYBODY.

WE'RE NOT HERE TO COLONIZE.

WE'RE HERE TO, UH, DEFEAT AN ENEMY FORCE, AN EVIL FORCE.

AS FAR AS JUST WAR GOES, I THINK WE HAVE NO ISSUES.

IS IT WORTH IT?

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, THAT'S NOT FOR ME.

I--I'M HERE TO TAKE CARE OF THESE FOLKS.

I WANT TO BE HERE.

I WANT TO BE WHERE THE NEED IS.

MAY ALMIGHTY GOD... HURLEY, VOICE-OVER: TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE ANYWHERE ELSE.

SAFE TRAVELS.

THANK YOU, FATHER.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'LL RAISE YOUR EGGNOGS, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A TOAST... TO SOMEONE WHO IS TOO MODEST, TOO UTTERLY SIMPLE A MAN TO KNOW HOW MUCH STRENGTH HE GIVES US JUST BY THE DECENCY OF HIS LIFE AMONG US-- FATHER JOHN PATRICK FRANCIS MULCAHY.

HEAR, HEAR.

MILLER: PEOPLE OF ALL GENERATIONS, BUT PARTICULARLY THE MILLENNIALS, ARE SAYING THEY NO LONGER WANT TO BRING PART OF THEIR SELF TO WORK.

THEY WANT TO BRING THEIR WHOLE SELF TO WORK.

THEY WANT TO HAVE A HOLISTIC WAY OF APPROACHING WORK.

THE OLD DAYS OF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, PEOPLE JUST THOUGHT OF, UH, EXTERNALITIES-- SKIN COLOR, RACE, GENDER, GENDER-ORIENTATION.

THEY'RE STARTING TO REALIZE NOW, "WELL, IT'S WORLD VIEWS, "IT'S DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT, NOT JUST DIVERSITY OF SKIN COLOR."

AND THAT'S WHEN QUESTIONS OF SPIRITUALITY COME IN.

PEOPLE ARE SAYING, "WELL, WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO HIDE OR BE EMBARRASSED ABOUT MY FAITH TRADITION?"

WHATEVER IT IS, WHETHER YOU'RE AN ORTHODOX JEW, A CATHOLIC, PROTESTANT, MUSLIM, WHATEVER OR VAGUELY SPIRITUAL BUT NOT RELIGIOUS.

MANY PEOPLE SAY, "THAT'S CENTRAL TO WHO I AM.

THAT'S PART OF MY IDENTITY," AND, "WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO PARK THAT AT THE DOOR?"

NARRATOR: TYSON FOODS, ONE OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST PRODUCERS OF CHICKEN AND MEAT PRODUCTS, IS A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY HEADQUARTERED IN SPRINGDALE, ARKANSAS.

IT HAS NEARLY 120,000 EMPLOYEES.

IT ALSO HAS A TEAM OF 120 FULL- AND PART-TIME CHAPLAINS, BY FAR THE LARGEST COMMITMENT TO CHAPLAINCY IN THE CORPORATE WORLD.

TYSON: TYSON FOODS TODAY DOES OVER $35 BILLION OF ANNUAL REVENUES.

THE NUMBERS THAT ALWAYS GET ME IS THAT, UH, WE PROCESS 42 MILLION HEAD OF CHICKENS A WEEK.

WE PROCESS APPROXIMATELY 160,000 HEAD OF CATTLE A WEEK... AND WE PROCESS APPROXIMATELY 330,000 HEAD OF HOGS A WEEK.

MILLER: YOU'RE EVISCERATING ANIMALS.

YOU--YOU RAISE, SLAUGHTER, TAKE APART, AND PUT BACK TOGETHER ANIMALS FOR FOOD FOR US.

TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CHICKEN McNUGGETS, YOU HAVE TO RAISE AND KILL CHICKENS.

A TOUGH BUSINESS.

A LOT OF ETHICAL ISSUES, A LOT OF CHALLENGING ISSUES.

IT'S A TOUGH BUSINESS.

WORKER: WE ALL AGREE THAT WE SEE THIS JOB AS SOMETHING NORMAL, EVEN THOUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A KILLING LINE HERE-- KILLING CHICKEN.

SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT US.

OUR COMPANY HAS BEEN A PLACE WHERE WE RECEIVE A LOT OF FIRST TIMERS COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY.

WE GET A LOT OF POLITICAL REFUGEES.

NARRATOR: EACH TYSON PLANT CAN CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE CHAPLAINS.

THE VAST MAJORITY ELECT TO HAVE THEM.

THIS PLANT OUTSIDE NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, IS ONE OF THE MOST CULTURALLY AND RELIGIOUSLY DIVERSE.

PUCKETT: 23 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES ARE SPOKEN HERE, 51 NATIONALITIES.

WE HAVE 5 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES HERE TODAY.

WE HAVE ARABIC, SOMALI, ENGLISH, SPANISH.

ZOMI?

MAN: ZOMI.

PUCKETT: ZOMI FROM MYANMAR.

SO THERE'S TRANSLATORS HERE TO TRANSLATE FOR YOU.

BUT THE MISSION OF A CHAPLAIN IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE HELP THAT YOU NEED IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HELP YOU.

EVERYTHING YOU TELL ME IS CONFIDENTIAL.

OK?

TODO LO QUE ME DICE ES CONFIDENCIAL.

I DON'T TELL YOUR BOSS.

I DON'T TELL ANYBODY ELSE.

IT'S JUST BETWEEN YOU AND ME.

AND THAT'S WHY I AM HERE AS A CHAPLAIN, WHEN YOU HAVE DIFFICULTIES IN YOUR LIFE.

MY NAME IS SAM--SAM PUCKETT.

PUCKETT: I'LL DO ALMOST ANYTHING THEY ASK ME TO DO.

I TRANSPORT PEOPLE, I TRANSLATE, I LOOK FOR LAWYERS, I LOOK FOR DOCTORS, I TAKE THEM TO DOCTORS, I GO TO THE HOSPITAL.

I GO TO SURGERIES.

I GO TO FAMILY MEMBERS IN DISTRESS.

I DO COUNSELING IN THE HOMES.

MILLER: PEOPLE TEND TO THINK THAT WORKPLACE CHAPLAINS, ALL THEY DO IS THEY RUN AROUND IN--I DON'T KNOW-- MONASTIC ROBES AND PRAY WITH EVERYONE THE WHOLE TIME AND SPRINKLE HOLY WATER.

UH, IN MANY WAYS, THEY LOOK LIKE A SOCIAL WORKER.

THEY'RE--THEY'RE HELPING PEOPLE SOLVE LIFE'S PROBLEMS, PARTICULARLY IN SOME FRONT-LINE JOBS.

YOU KNOW, FRANKLY IT'S WHAT HR USED TO DO BEFORE THEY WORRIED ABOUT INSURANCE AND POLICIES AND EVERYTHING.

NO ONE GOES TO THEIR HR PEOPLE FOR, UH, LIFE HELP NOW, RIGHT?

BUT YOU-- YOU'LL GO TO A CHAPLAIN.

TYSON: EVOLVE INTO THE FUTURE... NARRATOR: THE CHAPLAINS PROGRAM WAS BEGUN BY JOHN TYSON, WHOSE GRANDFATHER STARTED THE COMPANY DURING THE DEPRESSION.

JOHN TOOK OVER IN 2000 AND IS CREDITED WITH MUCH OF THE DRAMATIC GROWTH.

THE CHAPLAINS PROGRAM STEMS FROM WHAT THE COMPANY CALLS ITS CORE VALUES: TO STRIVE TO "HONOR GOD IN ALL THEY DO" AND TO PROVIDE EMPLOYEES WITH A FAITH-FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.

TYSON: WE WERE VERY CAREFUL TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD WE WERE FAITH-FRIENDLY.

NOT FAITH-BASED BECAUSE FAITH-BASED MIGHT IMPLY A SINGULAR FAITH.

WE HAVE ALL THE MAJOR FAITHS WITHIN OUR COMPANY.

SO EVERYBODY THAT HAS A FAITH CAN COME INTO OUR FACILITIES AND--AND CARRY THEIR FAITH INTO THE MARKETPLACE.

PUCKETT: THE TOWER OF BABEL, WHERE THE LANGUAGES COME FROM.

PUCKETT, VOICE-OVER: THE WAY THEY DRESS, THEIR LITERATURE THEY CAN CARRY WITH THEM, THEIR LITTLE, UH, BAGS THEY BRING THAT ARE TRANSPARENT.

THEY BRING THEIR FOOD IN.

THEY ALSO WILL HAVE MAYBE SOME RELIGIOUS FIGURES THERE, AND THEY HAVE NO TROUBLE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE SEEING THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S ACCEPTABLE HERE.

HASSAN: ALL TYSON IS DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, OTHER UNITED STATE COMPANIES ACCORDING TO RELIGIOUS ACCOMMODATION.

AND AS A MUSLIM, OUR FIRST PRIORITY IS EXACTLY TO GET RELIGIOUS ACCOMMODATION.

TARVIN: WE'VE HAD ACCOMMODATION ISSUES THAT WE MAYBE DIDN'T THINK WERE GOING TO COME DOWN THE PIKE.

AND WE TAKE ALL THOSE INDIVIDUALLY.

WE'VE GOT SOME OF OUR PLACES WHERE WE'VE HAD TO PUT, LIKE, A PRAYER ROOM, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR SOME OF OUR MUSLIM, UH, TEAM MEMBERS.

NARRATOR: THE DIRECTOR OF THE CHAPLAINS PROGRAM IS MIKE TARVIN.

BEFORE JOINING TYSON, HE SERVED 27 YEARS AS A MILITARY CHAPLAIN AND WAS SENIOR CHAPLAIN IN IRAQ.

TARVIN, VOICE-OVER: WE HAVE ABOUT 22 OR 23 DIFFERENT FAITH GROUPS THAT ARE REPRESENTED BY OUR CHAPLAINS.

THEY'RE ALL ORDAINED, UH, MINISTERS, CLERGY.

UH, BUT--BUT SOME JUST HAVE A BASIC, UH, YOU KNOW, BIBLE COLLEGE BACKGROUND.

AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, SOME FOLKS WHO HAVE, UH, Ph.D.s AND, UH, DOCTORATES IN COUNSELING OR IN THEOLOGY.

NARRATOR: DAVID MILLER FROM PRINCETON UNIVERSITY WORKS WITH A NUMBER OF COMPANIES, INCLUDING TYSON, DEVELOPING STRATEGIES AROUND FAITH IN THE WORKPLACE.

MILLER, VOICE-OVER: JOHN TYSON HAS ALWAYS MADE IT VERY CLEAR FROM THE BEGINNING THAT HE DOES NOT WANT THE COMPANY TO BE A CHURCH.

THE COMPANY-- IT'S A FOR-PROFIT COMPANY.

HIS RESPONSIBILITY IS TO VARIOUS SHAREHOLDERS AND STAKEHOLDERS.

HE VIEWS THE CHAPLAINCY PROGRAM AS BEING IN SUPPORT OF THE BUSINESS OBJECTIVES.

PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT'S-- THAT'S A VERY VALID AND A WISE, WISE APPROACH TO IT.

NARRATOR: MELISSA BRANNAN IS ONE OF THE NEARLY 120 CHAPLAINS AT TYSON FOODS, SERVING BOTH THE CORPORATE OFFICES AND NEARBY PLANTS.

YOU HAVE SUCH A WONDERFUL... BRANNAN, VOICE-OVER: I SEE A CHAPLAIN AS A REPRESENTATIVE.

IF I AM WALKING INTO A ROOM WHERE SOMEONE IS GRIEVING THE LOSS OF A FAMILY MEMBER, THEN AT THAT MOMENT, I MIGHT BE SOMEONE THAT JUST PUTS THEIR ARM AROUND THEM AND REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY.

I MAYBE JUST LISTEN.

IF SOMEONE, UH, MAYBE HAS AN AVERSION TO RELIGION OR MAYBE HAS HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE WITH A CLERIC OR A CLERGY PERSON, THEN I MAY REPRESENT THAT PAIN, AND IT MAY BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO INTERACT WITH ME.

I'M A LICENSED MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPIST.

MY TRAINING HAS HELPED ME TO LISTEN.

MY TRAINING HAS HELPED ME TO ASK LEADING QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT ABOUT TRYING TO MANIPULATE OR GET SOMEWHERE BUT HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE--THE UNDERLYING STRUGGLE IS.

[CONVERSATION IN SPANISH] TARVIN, VOICE-OVER: IT CAN BE SCARY TO TALK TO SOMEBODY ABOUT DEATH OR--OR EVEN JUST, HEY, YOU'RE HAVING A HARD TIME FINANCIALLY OR IN YOUR MARRIAGE--HUH-- YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE WANT TO AVOID THAT CONVERSATION, AND--AND OUR CHAPLAINS ARE--ARE WILLING AND--AND TRAINED TO SIT DOWN WITH SOMEBODY, AND SAY, "HEY, JUST LET'S TALK ABOUT IT," AND KIND OF HELP THEM THROUGH THAT.

MILLER, VOICE-OVER: THE WORKPLACE CHAPLAIN, UH, IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO WANT TO TAP INTO.

OUR RESEARCH SHOWS, THOUGH, THAT OVER 90% OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE SURVEYED, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NEVER HAVE USED THE CHAPLAIN SERVICE, THEY VIEW IT AS A FAVORABLE THING.

BRANNAN: IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.

OK, SO RUMOR HAS IT THAT YOU ARE RETIRING...

YES.

LIKE, AS IN NEXT WEEK.

YES.

SO HERE'S THE BIG QUESTION: HOW LONG HAVE YOU WORKED FOR TYSON FOODS?

39 YEARS.

WHAT KEPT YOU HERE?

MONEY.

[LAUGHTER] SOMETIMES WE FEEL, LIKE, FREE OR MORE COMFORTABLE TO TALK TO SOMEONE THAT'S NOT FROM THE OFFICE.

LIKE, WE CAN TELL THEM WHATEVER WE NEED OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO SAY.

WHEN THEY'RE THERE SOMETIMES, THEY CAN JUST COME BY AND SAY HI TO YOU OR, "HOW YOU FEELING TODAY?

WHAT'S GOING ON?"

IT KIND OF PICKS YOU UP THAT SOMEBODY NOTICES YOU, NOT JUST YOU'RE ANOTHER PERSON ON THE LINE OR YOU'RE ANOTHER PERSON ON THE SCALE, BUT THEY KNOW EACH ONE OF US.

I SPOKE WITH COURTNEY, THOUGH.

AND SHE SHARED WITH ME THAT YOU HAD GOTTEN SOME PRETTY HEAVY NEWS.

YEP, WE FOUND OUT THAT I HAVE CANCER.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE OK. GOD BROUGHT ME TO IT.

GOD WILL BRING ME THROUGH IT.

MELISSA, VOICE-OVER: THIS WOMAN IS PRECIOUS.

THIS WOMAN IS SO GENTLE, SO KIND TO EVERYONE THAT SHE'S ENCOUNTERING.

SHE'S UPLIFTING TO SO MANY PEOPLE, AND NOW SHE'S HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS?

ARE YOU MISSING FOLKS AT WORK?

MISSING THE PEOPLE, NOT THE WORK, BUT, YEAH.

OF COURSE, OF COURSE!

I MISS THE PEOPLE.

MELISSA, VOICE-OVER: SO I'M GOING THROUGH THE STAGES OF GRIEF IN MY MIND.

SO SHE'S--SHE'S GONE THROUGH THIS SENSE OF SHOCK.

AND--AND HER FAITH, WHICH IS HER STRONGHOLD, HAS UNDERGIRDED HER.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SHE'S NOT GONNA LATER EXPERIENCE SOME ANGER.

WHEN WE WERE FIRST TOLD I HAD CANCER AND THAT IT WAS STAGE 4, YEAH, BECAUSE I THOUGHT, "OK, I'VE GOT CANCER.

"WE CAUGHT IT.

NO BIGGIE.

IT'LL BE GONE IN A LITTLE WHILE."

BUT WHEN WE WENT IN AND FOUND OUT IT WAS STAGE 4, NO.

DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE HOLDING HANDS OR JUST SITTING ON OUR WAY OR-- OK!

I GOT YOUR MESSAGE.

HA HA!

OH, DEAR FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR THIS INCREDIBLE WOMAN.

I THANK YOU FOR THE PEACE THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED TO HER HEART.

I THANK YOU, GOD... MELISSA, VOICE-OVER: I CAN'T CURE THIS LADY'S CANCER.

I CAN ENCOURAGE HER.

I CAN CALL HER.

I CAN PRAY FOR HER.

I CAN LOVE ON HER.

BUT I CAN'T FIX IT.

SO FOLLOWING UP WITH HER IS GOING TO BE ASSESSING WHERE SHE'S AT IN THE PROCESS OF DEALING WITH JUST THE LOSS OF HEALTH.

BUT--TWO--IT'S GOING TO BE MAKING SURE THAT SHE'S GETTING THE SPIRITUAL AND EMOTIONAL SUPPORT THAT SHE NEEDS IN HER FAMILY, THAT SHE'S, UH, IN CONTACT WITH HR AND SHE'S GETTING EVERYTHING THAT SHE NEEDS THERE.

TARVIN, VOICE-OVER: WHEN I WAS IN THE ARMY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, UH, THIS CORPORATE CHAPLAINCY EXISTED AT--AT THIS KIND OF A LEVEL.

BUT SPECIFICALLY NOW TO THE CONCEPT OF, HEY, WE'RE JUST HERE TO BE THE--YOU KNOW, PUT YOUR ARM AROUND YOUR SHOULDER, GIVE YOU A HUG, AND SAY, "GET BACK OUT THERE ON THE FLOOR, AND MAKE SOME MORE MONEY FOR TYSON," I KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT.

ABOVE EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, JOHN TYSON JUST HAS A TRUE BELIEF THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

THEY--THEY WANT IT BECAUSE THEY SEE THAT IT TRULY IS HELPING THEIR EMPLOYEES.

TYSON, VOICE-OVER: IT STARTED OUT WITH 5 OR 6 CHAPLAINS.

WE'VE GROWN TO OVER 120 CHAPLAINS.

SO IT'S GOT A LIFE OF ITS OWN.

IF SOMETHING HAS GOT A LIFE OF ITS OWN, I'M JUST GOING TO STAY OUT OF THE WAY.

MILLER, VOICE-OVER: AT ONE POINT WHEN--WHEN THE CHAPLAINS AND THE FAITH-FRIENDLY IDEA WERE--WERE BEING INTRODUCED, THERE WAS LEGITIMATE, UH, SMART QUESTIONS BEING ASKED.

WHAT ABOUT LEGAL EXPOSURES?

WHAT ABOUT LEGAL LIABILITIES?

SHOULD WE BE GOING DOWN THIS ROAD?

UH, AND ONE OF THE OTHER EXECUTIVES, HE LAUGHED AND HE SAID, "YOU KNOW, WE GET SUED FOR EVERYTHING."

IT'S JUST PART OF BEING BIG, RIGHT?

YOU'RE ALWAYS SUED.

WHETHER YOU'RE NIKE OR IBM OR GE, YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA GET SUED.

HE GOES, "AT LEAST IF WE GET SUED FOR THIS, IT'S SOMETHING WE BELIEVE IN."

HA HA!

CADGE: I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HEAR "CHAPLAIN" AND THEY THINK SOMETHING BAD.

SO THEY THINK THAT SOMEONE HAS DIED OR SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE DYING, WHETHER IT'S IN HEALTH CARE OR THEY THINK THAT THE CHAPLAIN IS THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO KNOCK AT THE DOOR WHEN THEIR LOVED ONE WHO'S BEEN OVERSEAS IN THE MILITARY, WHEN A BODY IS BROUGHT BACK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK THAT THE VALUE OF PAYING ATTENTION TO CHAPLAINS IS TO HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THAT CHAPLAINS DO A REALLY BROAD RANGE OF THINGS.

THEY ARE NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO WORK AROUND DEATH AND DYING, ALTHOUGH THAT IS A PART OF WHAT THEY DO, AND TO SEE THE--THE WORK THAT THEY DO IN THIS BROADER SWATH.

WOMAN: THE NURSE STATED THAT THE PATIENT HAS BEEN SITTING ON THE EDGE OF HIS BED FOR SEVERAL HOURS, STARING AT THE FLOOR.

SHE SEEMS TO THINK THAT A VISIT FROM A CHAPLAIN MIGHT HELP.

I TOOK A QUICK LOOK AT THE CHART.

THE PATIENT IS LISTED AS... NARRATOR: THIS IS A SUPERVISED CLASS OF CLINICAL PASTORAL EDUCATION, PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CERTIFICATION AS A PROFESSIONAL CHAPLAIN.

FLEENOR, VOICE-OVER: THERE ARE ROUGHLY 4,000 TO 5,000 BOARD CERTIFIED CHAPLAINS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND WHEN I SAY BOARD CERTIFIED CHAPLAINS, I MEAN PEOPLE WHO HAVE MET 29 DIFFERENT COMPETENCIES AND HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY A BOARD OF THEIR PEERS, AFTER HAVING RECEIVED A GRADUATE THEOLOGICAL DEGREE, LIKE A MASTER OF DIVINITY DEGREE, COMPLETING 1,600 HOURS OF CLINICAL PASTORAL EDUCATION, BEING ORDAINED OR COMMISSIONED BY THEIR DENOMINATION, AND BEING ENDORSED BY THEIR DENOMINATION.

AND THEN AFTER ALL THAT, YOU HAVE TO DO 2,000 HOURS OF ACTUAL CHAPLAINCY PRACTICE.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, THE TRAINING A DOCTOR RECEIVES, RIGHT, ROUGHLY EIGHT YEARS OR SO, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME FOR A BOARD-CERTIFIED CHAPLAIN.

SO IT'S A LONG PROCESS.

HI.

MR. McDONALD?

HI.

HI.

I'M CHAPLAIN MORGAN.

CADGE, VOICE-OVER: SO ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OR CHALLENGES THAT CHAPLAINCY IS FACING IS THIS ISSUE OF LICENSING.

CHAPLAINS ARE NOT LICENSED, WHICH MEANS THAT A HOSPITAL CAN HIRE WHOEVER THEY WANT AS A CHAPLAIN.

AND IMAGINE IF A HOSPITAL COULD HIRE WHOEVER THEY WANTED AS A NURSE AND THEY DIDN'T REQUIRE NURSES TO HAVE LICENSES.

BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, I WAS NOT AT THE STAGE WHERE-- I WAS NOT READY FOR DEATH, AND I COULDN'T ACCEPT THE IDEA, THE POSSIBILITY THAT I WAS GOING TO DIE.

FLEENOR, VOICE-OVER: THE QUESTION OF VALUE IN SPIRITUAL CARE IS A--A BIG ONE.

AND WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO DEMONSTRATE OUR VALUE AS HEALTH CARE CHAPLAINS SO THAT INSTITUTIONS WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE US AROUND, UH, AND CONTINUE TO PAY US TO DO THE WORK THAT-- THAT WE CERTAINLY VALUE AND WE THINK THAT, UH, PATIENTS VALUE.

UM, BUT WE'VE MOVED INTO A NEW ERA OF EVIDENCE-BASED CARE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT AND WHICH IS VERY GOOD.

THE DIFFICULTY FOR US IS DEVELOPING A SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE BASE THAT SHOWS THAT SPIRITUAL CARE, UH, IMPROVES THE PATIENT EXPERIENCE, IMPROVES PATIENT SATISFACTION, PERHAPS IMPROVES CLINICAL OUTCOMES.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE A ROBUST SET OF RESEARCH AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW TO MAKE THOSE CLAIMS VERY STRONGLY, BUT THERE IS LITERATURE THAT'S EMERGING.

CADGE, VOICE-OVER: ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES TO THE FUTURE OF CHAPLAINCY AND, FRANKLY, TO CHAPLAINCY CONTINUING TO EXIST AS IT DOES TODAY IS THE QUESTION OF WHO'S PAYING THESE PEOPLE AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN BUDGETS ARE CUT.

AND ARE THEY THE FIRST TO BE CUT BECAUSE THEY'RE SEEN AS AN EXTRA SERVICE?

INSURANCE ORGANIZATIONS DON'T REIMBURSE THE SERVICES OF CHAPLAINS IN HEALTH CARE.

SO HOSPITALS ARE HAVING TO DECIDE IF THEY'RE GOING TO PAY THIS PERSON, THAT THEY VALUE THIS SERVICE ENOUGH THAT THEY WANT TO PAY THE INDIVIDUAL.

AND SO THE FINANCIAL, UH, PIECE IN PLACES WHERE CHAPLAINS ARE OPTIONAL, WHICH IS STILL MOST PLACES, I WOULD SAY IS VERY SHAKY.

NARRATOR: ONE HOSPITAL WHERE CHAPLAINS ARE SALARIED AND HAVE LONG BEEN VIEWED AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE OVERALL CARE IS CHILDREN'S NATIONAL MEDICAL CENTER IN WASHINGTON, D.C. CHILDREN'S IS A LEVEL ONE TRAUMA CENTER THAT RECEIVES SOME 15,000 ADMISSIONS EACH YEAR.

BABY EDWARD IS ONE OF THOSE ADMISSIONS.

HE HAS A RARE LIFE-THREATENING IMMUNE DISORDER.

HIS BODY IS UNABLE TO FIGHT OFF EVEN THE SMALLEST INFECTION.

JACOBSOHN: AND WE'RE VERY, VERY LUCKY THAT HE HAS NOT HAD A LIFE-THREATENING INFECTION, BUT THE ONLY CURE FOR HIS CONDITION IS TO REPLACE HIS IMMUNE SYSTEM, TO GIVE HIM A NEW IMMUNE SYSTEM.

NARRATOR: AND THE WAY TO DO THAT IS WITH A BONE MARROW TRANSPLANT.

FROM THE OUTSET, BABY EDWARD AND HIS FAMILY HAVE BEEN CARED FOR BY THE CHAPLAIN TEAM.

[SPEAKING SPANISH] ROQUE, VOICE-OVER: EVEN THE MOST TRUSTING FAMILY, THEY COME TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY DON'T KNOW US.

THEY HAVE SEEN US FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIVES.

SO YOU HAVE TO GAIN THEIR TRUST.

THAT'S THE FIRST STEP.

ENNIS-DURSTINE, VOICE-OVER: SOME PARENTS LIVE IN THE HOSPITAL FOR MONTHS, ABSOLUTELY.

WHEN THEY'RE HAVING A BONE MARROW TRANSPLANT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A MINIMUM OF 60 TO 90 DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL IN ISOLATION.

NARRATOR: THE SENIOR CHAPLAIN IS KATHLEEN ENNIS-DURSTINE.

ENNIS-DURSTINE, VOICE-OVER: WELL, FAMILIES WHO HAVE A SICK CHILD ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A MIRACLE.

UH, IT CAN BE SOMETHING FAIRLY SIMPLE TO SOMETHING FAIRLY DRAMATIC.

EITHER THEY SIMPLY WANT THE TEST TO GO WELL AND THE REPORTS TO COME BACK POSITIVELY UM, OR THEY REALLY WANT A HEALING.

BUT HOPE IS SOMETHING THAT IS HARDWIRED IN US AS HUMAN BEINGS.

THANK YOU.

NARRATOR: NATHANAEL DOGGETT WAS RIDING HIS BIKE WHEN HE WAS STRUCK BY A CAR.

IT'S EVERY PARENT'S WORST NIGHTMARE.

YES, YOU'RE SHOCKED.

AND, YES, YOU KNOW, MY HEART JUST DROPPED THE MOMENT I KNEW--IT WAS REALIZED IT WAS MY SON AND NOT KNOWING IF HE'S GOING TO MAKE IT OR NOT.

I WAS REALLY SCARED.

I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL.

I NEVER HAD THIS SORT OF THING HAPPEN.

SO IT WAS ALL NEW, AND I WAS TERRIFIED.

BUT I STILL HAD FAITH THAT I WAS GOING TO BE OK. ENNIS-DURSTINE: I THINK YOU'RE A LUCKY YOUNG MAN.

AND I AM SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE GOING HOME TODAY OR TOMORROW.

PROBABLY OVER THE WEEKEND, THOUGH, RIGHT?

HEATHER: MM-HMM.

ENNIS-DURSTINE: UM, SO WHEN I GO HOME FROM WORK TODAY AND YOU GO HOME, MY HOPE AND PRAYER IS THAT I NEVER EVER GET TO SEE YOU AGAIN, RIGHT?

NATHANAEL: AS LONG AS IT ISN'T IN THE HOSPITAL.

NOT--EXACTLY.

SEE?

THAT'S RIGHT.

NOT HERE IN THE HOSPITAL.

ENNIS-DURSTINE: WE THANK YOU EVERY DAY FOR THE BLESSINGS... NARRATOR: NATHANAEL MADE A REMARKABLE RECOVERY AFTER HIS SURGERY.

AND HIS STAY IN CHILDREN'S WAS ONLY A MATTER OF DAYS.

THAT YOU SURROUND US WITH YOUR MERCY AND GRACE... NARRATOR: FOR BABY EDWARD, THE STAY WILL BE LONGER.

BUT FORTUNATELY HIS FIVE-YEAR OLD SISTER, BREZA, IS THE IDEAL DONOR FOR HIS BONE MARROW TRANSPLANT.

ROQUE, VOICE-OVER: SHE WAS SCARED TO DEATH.

I THINK SHE KNEW VERY WELL THAT AT THE END THAT EDWARD'S LIFE DEPENDED ON--ON HER, THAT SHE WAS GIVING NEW LIFE TO HIM AND SHE WAS BRAVE.

SHE WAS VERY BRAVE.

ANESTHESIOLOGIST: THE MEDICINE WILL MAKE YOU SLEEPY.

AND NOW SHE IS DORMIRÉ, COMPLETE.

MUY BIEN.

NARRATOR: NOW, OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS, THE BONE MARROW BABY EDWARD SO DESPERATELY NEEDS WILL BE PREPARED.

PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CHAPLAIN IS TO JOIN THE MEDICAL TEAM ON DAILY ROUNDS.

FROM A RESPIRATORY STANDPOINT, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE HIGH FLOW.

MY GOAL IS TO WEAN HIM DOWN TO 4 LITERS TODAY, AND... ENNIS-DURSTINE, VOICE-OVER: I PARTICIPATE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

UM, ONE--I WANT TO LEARN AS MUCH AS I CAN ABOUT THE FAMILIES THAT I'M GOING TO COME BACK AND SEE LATER.

AND I'M ALSO THERE TO REMIND OUR STAFF THAT THE HEALING THEY'RE ENGAGED IN PROVIDING, UM, IS MORE THAN JUST ABOUT MEDICINE AND MORE THAN JUST ABOUT SURGERY.

IT'S ALSO ABOUT HOW DOES THIS PERSON FEEL WHOLE AND CONNECTED.

SPAEDER, VOICE-OVER: SOME FAMILIES, UH, PROCESS INFORMATION THROUGH THEIR SPIRITUALITY OR THROUGH THEIR RELIGION TO HELP THEM SORT OF PROCESS THIS INFORMATION, TO HELP THEM MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT--ABOUT GOALS OF CARE.

SO I THINK THE--THE CHAPLAINS SORT OF HELP US UNDERSTAND UM, SORT OF WHAT--WHAT TYPES OF RESOURCES THESE FAMILIES MIGHT-- MIGHT NEED.

NARRATOR: SOMETIMES, AS IN THE CASE OF BABY EDWARD, WHAT THE FAMILY NEEDS IS SIMPLY A POSITIVE OUTCOME AFTER MONTHS OF UNCERTAINTY.

ROQUE, VOICE-OVER: HIS PROGNOSIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PROCESS IS NOT RISKY.

[SPEAKING SPANISH] ROQUE, VOICE-OVER: THE DAY OF THE TRANSPLANT, IN THAT LITTLE BAG WAS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD HAVE SAVED EDWARD'S LIFE.

JACOBSOHN, VOICE-OVER: FOR HIM, I WOULD EXPECT THAT HE HAS ABOUT A 90%, 95% CHANCE OF--OF DOING WELL AND GROWING UP TO BE, UH, AN ADULT AND NOT--NEVER KNOWING THAT HE HAD THIS PROBLEM.

[BIRD SQUAWKING] [WIND WHISTLING] O'CONNOR, VOICE-OVER: ON ANY GIVEN DAY, YOU'VE GOT OVER 2 MILLION, 2.2 MILLION PEOPLE IN PRISONS AND JAILS THROUGHOUT THE U.S. WE HAVE 5% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION, AND WE HAVE 25% OF THE PRISON POPULATION.

THOMPSON, VOICE-OVER: MY NAME IS KARUNA THOMPSON, AND I'M A CHAPLAIN AT OREGON STATE PENITENTIARY.

NARRATOR: OREGON STATE PENITENTIARY IN SALEM, OREGON, IS A MEN'S MAXIMUM SECURITY PRISON WITH OVER 2,000 INMATES.

THOMPSON, VOICE-OVER: FOR THE MOST PART, IT IS PERSON-TO-PERSON CRIMES.

THAT MAY BE SOME KIND OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, RAPE, MURDER, EXTREME CRIMES THAT HAVE IMPACTED MANY PEOPLE.

NARRATOR: KARUNA THOMPSON IS PART OF A THREE-MEMBER CHAPLAINS TEAM HERE AT OSP, INCLUDING RABBI AVROHOM PERLSTEIN, AND THE REVEREND LARRY BOWEN.

KARUNA IS A BUDDHIST, ONE OF THE FEW BUDDHIST CHAPLAINS IN THE COUNTRY.

BUT I THINK ACTUALLY MORE THE REACTION IS TO BEING A WOMAN IN A MEN'S PRISON AND THE--THE KIND OF CONSTANT FEEDBACK IS, "OH!

ISN'T THAT SCARY?"

IT'S ALWAYS KIND OF STRANGE TO ME BECAUSE I REALLY-- IT'S AN ENVIRONMENT THAT PROBABLY I FEEL KIND OF SAFER IN THAN NECESSARILY WALKING ON THE STREETS OR OTHER PLACES.

IT'S--THE SECURITY LEVELS ARE SO HIGH.

RATHS, VOICE-OVER: I EXPECT ALL OF OUR CHAPLAINS TO BE VERY VERSED IN WHAT WE CALL CRIMINOGENICS, SO THE STUDY, THE SCIENCE OF CRIMINOLOGY, YOU KNOW, WHY PEOPLE COME HERE.

UM, WHEN PEOPLE ARE HERE, WHAT'S-- WHAT'S EFFECTIVE INTERVENTIONS, YOU KNOW, EVIDENCE-BASED PRINCIPLES.

O'CONNOR, VOICE-OVER: MOST PEOPLE SPEND ABOUT 2 OR 3 YEARS, THE AVERAGE SENTENCE LENGTH IN PRISON.

ABOUT 90% TO 95% OF PRISONERS ARE EVENTUALLY RELEASED FROM PRISON.

THEY'RE COMING BACK INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THERE WAS A STUDY DONE.

AND THEY LOOKED AT THE RECIDIVISM RATES.

AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS THE RETURN TO PRISON WITHIN THREE YEARS.

IN OREGON, IT WAS A 23% RECIDIVISM RATE AND THAT COMPARED TO A NATIONAL AVERAGE OF 43%.

SO QUITE, QUITE STRIKING DIFFERENCE.

NARRATOR: THE CHAPLAINS ARE A KEY PART OF THE SUCCESS STORY.

THERE ARE MANY FACTORS THAT LEAD TO SUCCESS, LIKE THE CONNECTION TO FAMILY AND THE COMMUNITY.

BUT ONE KEY COMPONENT IS OPEN DIALOGUE WHERE CHAPLAINS WORK WITH INMATES AS THEY REFLECT ON WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEY'VE DONE, AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS.

CUNIO: "DISCUSS THE IMPACT OF YOUR OFFENSE ON EITHER YOUR VICTIM, YOUR FAMILY, OR YOUR COMMUNITY."

I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO EXPRESS HOW MUCH PAIN AND-- AND TURMOIL I INFLICTED ON A MULTITUDE OF VICTIMS, MAN.

I--I HAVEN'T TOTALLY COME TO TERMS WITH THE PAIN AND THE SUFFERING BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER IS SERIOUSLY HURT BY THAT.

I--I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF TWO PEOPLE-- A YOUNG COUPLE THAT WAS MURDERED IN A 1994 CARJACKING.

NARRATOR: STERLING CUNIO COMMITTED HIS CRIME AT AGE 16.

BY 17, HE BEGAN SERVING LIFE IN PRISON.

[CELL DOOR SLAMS] CUNIO: AS A KID, I FOUND MYSELF LITERALLY IN THE STREETS.

AND WHILE I WAS IN THE STREETS, I EVENTUALLY BECAME INVOLVED WITH THIS CULTURE OF STREET CRIME THAT WAS DEFINED BY THIS ULTRA MACHOISM.

SO MYSELF AND ANOTHER TEENAGER, WE--WE SET OUT TO DO A CARJACKING AND-- AND ENDED UP SHOOTING BOTH THE YOUNG COUPLE.

THE GUY'S NAME WAS IAN, AND HIS FIANCEE'S NAME WAS BRIDGET.

AND, UH, YEAH... WE DIDN'T...

INTEND-- WE DIDN'T SET OUT WITH THE INTENTION...

BUT IT'S NOT SIMPLE TO SAY THAT IT WAS A DESPERATE ACT TO TRY TO VALIDATE THIS IDENTITY THAT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO MY SENSE OF BELONGING BECAUSE IT HAD A REAL DEVASTATING EFFECT ON MY FAMILY, ON THEIR FAMILY.

UH, IT--IT TOOK THEIR LIFES.

THOMPSON, VOICE-OVER: THE VIEW IN THE BUDDHIST CULTURE IS THAT ALL HUMAN BEINGS ARE FUNDAMENTALLY GOOD AND AWAKE, AND THE STRONG EMPHASIS ON A SENSE OF KARMA AND REBIRTH AND THE REALITY THAT-- THAT WE HAVE LIVED MANY LIVES AND WE HAVE LIVED AND DONE A FULL SPECTRUM OF THINGS FROM THE KINDEST THINGS TO THE ABSOLUTE WORST.

AND THESE PARTICULAR MEN WHO DID THESE ACTS OF VIOLENCE COULD HAVE BEEN ANY OF US.

HOLMES, VOICE-OVER: CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF AND MYTHS AROUND THE INMATE POPULATION, THERE ARE DEFINITELY HARDCORE CONS THAT MAY NEVER CHANGE, THAT ARE JUST GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER.

UM, AND IF THEY GET OUT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE DANGEROUS.

THAT'S THE REALITY.

BUT THE MAJORITY OF INMATES, IN MY 20 YEARS' EXPERIENCE WORKING IN THIS FIELD, IS THAT THEY JUST MADE A SERIES OF HUGE BAD DECISIONS, AND THEY FEEL HORRIBLE ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

SO BOTH ON AN EMOTIONAL AND SPIRITUAL LEVEL, UH, CHAPLAINS CAN COME ALONGSIDE AND ADDRESS THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES AND HELP THEM SURVIVE.

THOMPSON, VOICE-OVER: IF I HAD TO LIVE IN A 5-BY-8 BATHROOM WITH ANOTHER PERSON, I WOULD LOSE MY MIND.

CUNIO, VOICE-OVER: YOU HAVE TO FIND A PURPOSE.

YOU HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING THAT IS SIGNIFICANT TO YOUR LIFE AND SIGNIFICANT TO YOU TO TAP INTO AND TRY TO HAVE THAT BECOME THE MEANING OF YOUR DAYS, YOU KNOW?

I READ A LOT, AND ONE OF THE BOOKS THAT REALLY HELPED ME BRING THAT INTO FOCUS WAS VIKTOR FRANKL'S "MAN'S SEARCH FOR MEANING," TO WHERE HE WENT THROUGH THIS CONCENTRATION CAMP.

AND HE--HE NOTICED THAT THE ONES THAT SURVIVED HAD, LIKE, THIS DIFFERENT SPIRIT ABOUT THEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD HAVE GOT HERE JUST BECAUSE I GOT OLDER.

O'CONNOR, VOICE-OVER: SO WHAT THE CHAPLAINS IN OREGON HAVE BEEN DOING IS TRYING TO TAKE THIS QUESTION OF MEANING, WORKING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE IN PRISON OF ALL DIFFERENT PERSUASIONS-- WHETHER THEY'RE OF HUMANIST BACKGROUND, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A FAITH, WHETHER THEY'RE SPIRITUAL, THEY'RE NOT RELIGIOUS-- A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY LIKE TO BE SPIRITUAL, BUT THEY DON'T LIKE ORGANIZED RELIGION-- OR WHETHER THEY'RE RELIGIOUS, THEY'RE CATHOLIC, THEY'RE HINDU, THEY'RE PROTESTANT, THEY'RE MORMON.

THE CHAPLAINS HAVE BEEN TAKING THAT WAY OF MAKING MEANING INTEGRATED INTO THEIR JOURNEY OUT OF CRIME, AND IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING.

THOMPSON: YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN FAMILIES THAT CULTURALLY OR FAMILIALLY YOU JUST DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.

SO, YEAH, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN OUR HOME-- THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT-- IT WAS, AS LONG AS THE DOORS WERE CLOSED, NO ONE NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT IT.

I WAS BEATEN, BUT I WAS ALSO WITNESS TO SEVERE BEATINGS THAT TOOK PLACE IN MY HOME, SO... THOMPSON, VOICE-OVER: WHAT A CHAPLAIN DOES IS LEANS IN TO THE PAINFUL PLACES.

AND WE ARE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE THINGS AND BE WITH PEOPLE IN THOSE MOMENTS THAT NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT.

CUNIO, VOICE-OVER: THE BEGINNING STAGES OF REALLY GETTING TO LOOK AT MYSELF WAS-- WAS QUITE PAINFUL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN I GOT TO A SPOT IN MY LIFE TO WHERE I COULD BE HONEST ABOUT WHO I WAS AND THE THINGS I DID, I DIDN'T REALLY LIKE WHAT I SAW.

NARRATOR: WALTER SCOFIELD JOINED THE MILITARY AT 18.

LATER, HE WAS DIAGNOSED AS BIPOLAR WITH POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER.

WITHIN MONTHS AFTER LEAVING THE MILITARY, HE COMMITTED HIS CRIME.

SCOFIELD, VOICE-OVER: I GOT IN A FIGHT WITH A GUY.

AND DURING THIS FIGHT, I TOOK HIM DOWN TO THE RIVER, AND I END UP MURDERING HIM.

AND, UH, WHEN I REALIZED WHAT I HAD DONE, I--I TURNED MYSELF IN AND WAS CONVICTED OF SECOND-DEGREE MURDER.

THERE'S NOT A DAY THAT GOES BY THAT I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.

I THINK ABOUT HIS FAMILY, THE PAIN I CAUSED.

NARRATOR: INCARCERATED SINCE 1988, WALTER IS NOW NEARING THE END OF HIS SENTENCE AND PREPARING TO RE-ENTER SOCIETY.

THE CHAPLAINS ARE PART OF A NETWORK THAT WILL HELP WITH HOUSING, JOB TRAINING, AND SUPPORT.

O'CONNOR: THERE ARE CERTAIN RIGHTS THAT ARE MITIGATED, OR INMATES LOSE WHEN THEY GO TO PRISON.

BUT ONE OF THE ONES THAT THEY DON'T, AND THE SUPREME COURT HAS ALWAYS UPHELD THIS, IS THE RIGHT TO FREELY EXERCISE YOUR FAITH, WHATEVER IT IS.

PEOPLE IN PRISON LOSE THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE OFTEN, BUT THEY DON'T LOSE THE RIGHT TO PRACTICE THEIR FAITH.

NARRATOR: SO WHILE SOME STATES FACE LAWSUITS FOR FAILING TO PROVIDE THE FREE EXPRESSION OF RELIGION, OREGON SUPPORTS THESE CHAPLAINS AS THEY ADDRESS THE INMATES' SPIRITUAL NEEDS.

IT'S DONE WITH THE HELP OF SCORES OF VOLUNTEERS WHO ASSIST IN CREATING A BROAD MENU OF SERVICES, AS EACH WEEK, COMMON MEETING ROOMS ARE CONVERTED INTO SACRED SPACE FOR THE VARIOUS TRADITIONS-- CATHOLIC, BUDDHIST, PROTESTANT, WICCAN, NATIVE AMERICAN.

SNOW, VOICE-OVER: SOME OF THESE GUYS WE'VE JUST GOTTEN TO KNOW, AND THEY'VE BEEN REALLY HONEST ABOUT THEIR CRIMES.

AND THERE'S BEEN SOME REALLY HEINOUS CRIMES.

WHEN I WATCH THE SINCERITY AND THEIR BROKENNESS-- BECAUSE THEY'RE BROKEN.

THEY'RE REALLY BROKEN, AND THEY NEED HEALING.

[CHEERS] ME BEING A GRANDPA?

[LAUGHTER] ♪ JESUS MESSIAH ♪ ♪ NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES ♪ ♪ BLESSED REDEEMER ♪ ♪ IMMANUEL... ♪ [CHANTING] WAYNE, VOICE-OVER: WE'RE IN PRISON, YOU KNOW?

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY THINK THAT WE-- WE DON'T DESERVE THIS STUFF BECAUSE WE'RE IN PRISON, YOU KNOW?

BUT SHE DOESN'T SEE IT THAT WAY, YOU KNOW?

SHE BELIEVES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE--WE COULD BE A BETTER PEOPLE EVEN THOUGH WE ARE IN PRISON.

[CHIME] THOMPSON: IN THE SHAMBHALA BUDDHIST TRADITION, OF COURSE, WE TALK ABOUT THIS IDEA OF BASIC GOODNESS AND THIS SENSE THAT ACTUALLY THAT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL GROUND OF WHO WE ARE, AND PAIN AND THAT SUFFERING EMERGES BECAUSE OF OUR DOUBT IN OUR OWN BASIC GOODNESS... AND BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY SOMEHOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON, DON'T TRUST THAT.

THOMPSON, VOICE-OVER: FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, IT IS OUR RELIGIOUS OR SPIRITUAL BELIEFS THAT REALLY GUIDE THAT MORAL COMPASS AND GUIDE US THROUGH OUR LIVES.

SO IF I'M ABLE HERE TO PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE AND OPEN AND DEEPEN THAT UNDERSTANDING FOR THEMSELVES, THEN THE LIKELIHOOD OF THEIR RELATIONSHIPS BEING MORE MEANINGFUL AND THEM BEING MORE CONNECTED IN THEIR FAMILIES AND IN THE LARGER CONTEXT, THE LESS LIKELY THEY ARE TO COMMIT CRIMES.

MAN: AND ALL THE VOLUNTEERS THAT COME IN AND WORK WITH US, WE PRAY TO THE LORD.

ALL: LORD, HEAR OUR PRAYERS.

MAN: THAT WE CAN ALL HAVE EMPATHY FOR THE OTHERS, WE PRAY TO THE LORD.

ALL: LORD, HEAR OUR PRAYERS.

SCOFIELD, VOICE-OVER: WELL, WHEN I CAME INTO PRISON, I WASN'T A SPIRITUAL PERSON AT ALL.

I WAS VERY ANTI-RELIGION OF ANY KIND.

I HAD A LOT OF ANGER AND HATE INSIDE.

UM, OVER THE YEARS, WORKING WITH THE CHAPLAINS AND THE VARIOUS FAITH GROUPS THAT ARE HERE, I LEARNED TO DEAL WITH THAT HATRED AND THAT ANGER, AND IT--IT'S MELTED AWAY.

LET THIS CIRCLE ALSO BE A PLACE WHERE PERFECT LOVE CAN ALSO BE FOUND.

SO MOTE IT BE.

ALL: SO MOTE IT BE.

SCOFIELD, VOICE-OVER: WICCA IS A RELIGION THAT'S BASED ON APPRECIATING AND RESPECTING ALL OF NATURE.

AND THAT INCLUDES US AS HUMANS, AND WICCA IS NOT DEVIL WORSHIP.

MAN: BY THE POWERS OF EARTH WE ARE FERTILE!

ALL: EARTH WE ARE!

DO YOU, WINDWALKER, WISH TO DEPART FROM THIS, YOUR HOME, AND US, YOUR FAMILY?

I DO NOT WISH IT.

HOWEVER, I MUST.

I'M SCARED.

HA HA!

I'VE SPENT OVER HALF MY LIFE IN PRISON.

AND I'M NOW GETTING A SECOND CHANCE TO GO BACK OUT THERE TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING WITH MYSELF.

I KNOW THE WORLD IS NOT 1988 LIKE IT USED TO BE.

NARRATOR: IN PART TWO OF "CHAPLAINS"... FAST, WILD, AND CRAZY LIFESTYLE.

WOMAN: ACTION.

I WANTED TO BE A STAR.

I WANTED TO BE RICH AND FAMOUS.

AND TODAY YOUR MOTHER LOST HER JOB.

[SIREN] MAN: BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD FIND.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO ABSOLUTELY.

I JUST GOT OVER PNEUMONIA.

SCOFIELD, VOICE-OVER: WHEN I WALK OUT OF HERE, I'LL HAVE TO START MAKING DECISIONS FOR MYSELF, AND THAT SCARES ME.

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