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Matt Killum.

We have a jampacked show today.

We're going to take a look at our toledo.com community calendar driven by Tada!

Plus, we've got three incredible guests.

We'll have Aaron O'Connell on the program from Toledo Roadrunners.

Yep.

We'll have Elena Hernandez on from the Believe center.

And then we will have, Laura, Laura and Kelly Lacy from Adventist Climbing.

Will be on as well.

But we got so much going on.

Let's dive in to our toledo.com community calendar driven by.

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What's on the docket?

Top five events of the week.

Jam city tonight, May 14th.

It's a benefit for, food for thought.

15 restaurants are going to be at the fifth thir building from 6 to 830 tonight.

They do their take on peanut butter and jelly.

It's one of Kevin's favorite.

There is a very fun event.

I do love this event.

I've been to it a number of times.

It's a really cool way to really see the creativity of the different restaurant tours and support a phenomenal organization.

Of course, food for thought, notorious for kind of famous for serving peanut butter jelly sandwiches.

To folks experiencing homelessness.

And so they take that peanut butter and jelly, give it to incredible chefs, and let them go wild.

So take an EpiPen.

If you have a you allergy.

Next up is that we missed out on that when we recorde based on cheese in conference.

Yeah.

So in a little while I playoff hockey which I'm assuming means they're in playoffs.

Well said.

Yeah that's right.

So that could continue this weekend at Huntington Center.

Yeah.

Tomorrow.

And Saturday and the next two scheduled.

Yeah.

Curiosity let me tell you.

Let me ask you a question.

Okay.

If you had to rank, the most important position on a hockey team what would be your number one?

I think goalie.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

A hot goali can win the whole thing for you.

In your words.

That's what I said many times.

Yeah, but for a different reason.

I believe that this event on the list is the dart frog dash at the Toledo Zoo, Saturday, May 16th.

It's A5K.

Lots of fun stuff.

We'll talk to Erin about tha a little bit later in the show.

Then we have the fourth event of the week, Outdoor Discovery Day, May 16th at Sidcup Metropark.

12 before.

Yeah.

This is, a modernizing of our outdoor expo.

So it's basically, try it out.

The staff is our staff is incredible.

Ours being the Metroparks.

And it makes, archery and things like that.

You can try it for free.

If there's something that you kind of always wanted to see if you'd like or not, this is the way to do it with, with the comfort of really welcoming group.

These are your young people.

I shouldn't say yes, they are, but they are.

They do such a good job.

My friends and I did archer league now the two summers ago.

I was fabulous at it.

That's what I heard.

Very, very good.

But it's so fun.

And they these.

I do say kids.

I don't mean that derogatory, but they're young people that come out with the with the van thing and they got all the equipment.

They're set up there on time.

They're always it's just it's a very, expertly run by your leader.

It's similar to your well, not exactly the sam with your vans and young people.

Right?

Very similar.

Yeah.

Similar.

What are some of the differen activities that are happening?

You mentioned archery.

There's there's the climbing wall, is there?

Thanks to our partnership with mercy.

We've got paddling.

There's there's a fishing portion of it.

So anything that you've ever seen the Metroparks do outside or have access to you, you will have access to it that day.

Awesome.

And where is it at again?

I cut 12 to 4 on Saturday.

One thing you won't have access to at the Metroparks event is Herb Alpert, because he'll be getting tw weeks ago and his Tijuana Brass.

And they will be.

That's because they'll b getting ready for their concert.

That's right.

Saturday night at the peristyle, brought to you by Live Arts Toledo.

Have you heard them?

He's very.

He's a very famous, trumpeter.

Yeah, the Tijuana brass sounds familiar.

Yeah, but every time I hea Herb Alpert, I think Marv Albert stop thinking that.

And they're not saying that.

No, I don't think it is.

Yeah, yeah.

No, it's not the same person.

It should be a great.

I should be a great performance.

All right.

A ton of incredible things happening, per usual, on a variety of things.

Was it?

Let's.

Let's take a break.

When we come back we'll dive into our conversation with Aaron O'Connor with Toledo Roadrunners.

And maybe she can help us figure out how we can, get into things like the dart, frog dash, or get, maybe more how to avoid them.

Yeah Or do this for the third time.

You know, that sounds great, too.

All right.

We'll take a break.

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There's so many cool things and so many great peopl making those cool things happen.

We talked about the dark fraud dart frog dash.

That's hard to say.

This weekend, it is hard to say.

It's quite the tongue twister.

But, just one of the many running event happening across northwest Ohio.

If you look at those in your intimidated, there's a group here that's going to help them be a little less intimidating.

Aaron joins us from Toledo Roadrunners.

Aaron, thank you so much for being here.

Thanks for having me I appreciate it.

Let's start with if people aren't familia to the Roadrunners, who are you?

Well, I'm Aaron the roadrunner.

That's the show?

Yep.

Can I?

The Roadrunner have been around for 50 years.

This is our 50th year, which you have a century of continuous membership.

You know, especially with the ups and downs of of everybody's exercise ability is really remarkable.

It really is.

And starting in 1976, in January, a couple people got together.

There's a little bit of controversy of how they came about.

There was the Toledo University of Toledo faculty joggers.

They did.

They started the Toledo Roadrunners.

Was it the Oregon Track Club?

Was it a bunch of high school, you know, coaches getting together?

We're going to leave that to the history.

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

But we got get a combination.

Yes, yes.

And it happened together.

And so they did start basically at the University of Toledo, which is actually where the first, Glass City Marathon was held in 1971.

And then the first class C marathon was held in 19 seven, 1970.

Hoping that you're going to do some math with me, because there was no I'm just going to say you're going to be running.

So the Mercy Health Glass City Marathon will have its 50th next year.

Now, you can probably figure that that doesn't add up to 50, right?

There was a couple of years of dormant activity with the marathon, so we did.

Could tell me any number.

Just wanted to say.

From the beginning for 50 years always been the organization they are now.

In other words, encouraging people to run advocating for runners, helping people get ready for races.

Absolutely.

I mean, the mission of the Road Runners is to bring low cost and sometimes free activities just to get you moving.

Yeah.

Now people get really intimidated because it says roadrunners.

But we have a lot of walkers.

We have a lot of people that do.

The Galloway method, which is a run walk type of method, which I was running, I think Detroit half and I, I consistently run I don't interva and the walkers were walking run and we were doing kind of the same pace and they probably were a lot less stressed out than me.

So there's really something to be said for.

I was a I was a I was on the cross country team in high school.

I was a good salmon runner.

My brothers are runners and they're fantastic at it.

I was on the team.

But, you know, you go to college, you get away from it.

You get out of college, and you're even further away from activity.

A number of years ago, I tried to get back into running.

And I found a running group, and that that camaraderie made it possible.

What is the experience like?

Somebody comes out to a Roadrunners event for the first time ever.

They've never run before, but they see the Glass City Marathon.

They see the Garmin, they se these other great races and go.

I'm not going to run 26.2 miles, but I want to be a part of this.

What is that?

What's that first step look like?

I mean, typically it's the community in Toledo has one of the best running communities.

And I know I say running loosely.

It's a fitness community, really, just to get up off the couch.

And Toledo is really unique in our location, which we all know.

I mean, it being the crossroads, we have so many people that just want to get out.

Typically our weather is little bit, you know, pleasant.

It's flat here, so you don' have those hills to worry about.

We do have the wind.

But coming out to a Roadrunners event, it is honestly so friendly.

You're going to have somebody come right up to you and say, hey I'm so-and-so.

Nice to meet you.

Have you.

Did you move here?

Join the club.

You don't have to be a member.

But we want you to please.

And we just.

We're just so inclusive and will always be somebody to run with you.

There will always be somebody to match your pace.

Yeah.

You won't be alone.

That's a lovely sense of fun.

Yeah.

Aaron, if if you don't mind me asking, sort of.

Your journey into running.

We talked a little bit before the show, which was probably the highlight of your week.

But how did you get involved in this?

Are you a long time athlete or running is in your family?

What's your story?

Well, I'm a Toledo in fro the day I was born until today.

So I've always lived in Toledo and grew up in my studio and, you know, played sports in high school, went to college and just kind of fell off the map a little.

And then I volunteered for the Glass City Marathon when it was still downtown.

And it was the worst weather comin right off of them on the river and snow, sleet, rain, everything you could have in April in northwest Ohio.

Sure.

And my sister was running the marathon.

I think it was her first or second marathon.

And I was volunteering with my kids at a water stop, and people were just continuing this race, and it was mile 25 where we were.

And I'm like, you still have a mile to go.

How how in the world are you going to finish this?

And I was hooked right then, because when you're out there and I always tell people this to get started running and however that looks for you, come on and volunteer.

That is so.

Come on and cheer.

I, my, daughters and I continuously cheer, right in front of our house.

The runners go.

And it is a it's a celebration, right?

It's super fun.

And there are people that we know, people who are running in it.

Of course, but I don't know it.

The people are so, thankful to see people cheering them on there.

I'm thankful I'm not doing it.

Yeah.

I'm thankful that you so well.

I mean, it is a true community.

You can't emphasize this without sounding, you know, overdelivered or trite, but it is a wonderful experience.

Well, there's a word for it.

It's called spectating.

Yeah, it's the.

We actually have our own word and, like, the signs.

I mean, I've run two full marathons, and the signs give you life.

Yeah.

Hilarious.

I just di the Detroit International Half.

And you run into Canada?

Yeah, over the Ambassador Bridge, which is, Oh, cool.

And pleasant and pleasant.

Yeah.

Because of the wind.

And and this last year, it was raining and, like, 50 mil an hour winds the entire time.

So that was.

Yeah.

But remember, I paid for that.

That was, you know, you can go over you can go through the tunnel.

You have to go over the bridge and back through the tunnel, okay.

So that you don't get your you there's no choices here.

Okay.

For some reason I for some reason, I thought there was two different ways to go, but.

All right.

They tell you where to go.

Yeah So that's not great either way.

No.

And, you mean you have to have your passport ahead of time?

You're screened ahead of time before you do that.

So if anybody wants to run a really cool half or full Detroit, honestly, they are so amazing the way they do it.

And you know, we're so again, that's why Toledo is so cool.

That's a 15 minute drive.

Yeah.

You can be right there and run these.

Really cool.

What was your first marathon?

It was Akron okay.

The marathon.

And then I did the Marine Corps Marathon in DC.

How do you how do you go about training for something like that?

You train with your friends.

I mean, I train with road runners, and we don't we don't run nonprofit.

So we're not going to, you know, go out there too much and we're not charging people for training.

Just come join us come in for our free group runs, which we have throughout the week.

We meet at local coffee shops.

We call it our Running on Grounds, which is a little funny one.

And then we have running on ground coffee.

Come on.

And s we meet at local coffee shops, which is another really cool thing about Toledo, is they are we are designated a runner friendly community which is actually a really huge, you know, accolade for Toledo, because it's not just that it's accessible.

It's the the businesses are opening us up to water and rooms.

I know you mentioned this, but if you don't mind just a little bit deeper dive.

You went from, 0 to 26.2 miles or got right in with a group, but you went you trained right for a marathon.

Yeah.

How about that?

That.

That's not what you.

You shouldn't really do that.

Yeah.

No.

Yeah.

That's like, you know, like I tell you why it's not a bad idea.

Because just what happened at the Mercy Health Glass City Marathon.

Vincent Marie never ran a marathon, right?

That was his very first.

There's a chance, Gretchen, I could be the fastest.

205 6205 he ran, and I was able to watch him finish that.

It was.

I have been part of the Glas City Marathon for over 15 years, watching Vince do what he did and then watching Andy Casal get an Olympic qualifying time.

So we had the male finisher and the female finisher going to the Olympic trials.

This is amazing for Toledo.

And tell us a little bit more about that.

Like we use all the other guests that we had on talking about the history and some of the data, but what did it mean to you to be out there and to be able to see it?

I mean, as a volunteer, which means unpaid, I, you know, get up at four, we get up at three, we get up at four where they're we're just so excited to be there.

And you just want nothing to go wrong.

Please let everything be right and then I see on the you know in the glass bowl he's up on the big screen and he hits his half mark.

And I think an hour and like four seconds you know at that poin and well he was shooting for 210 is what we heard.

And our course record was 219 So wow really fast.

And and there's actuall like a whole, the whole story.

And I think that actually, Jesse already explained tha he was supposed to run Indiana and then he, you know, got pushed over to here, which, you know, that's another thing about Toledo was like, come on, come on, we got you.

Come and run with us.

Win the whole thing.

Yeah.

Great.

So he he just watching him all alone on the camera, and he said he actually made friends with the lead biker.

They were like, he's like okay, I'm going to be all alone.

Let's talk through this the whole time.

The 26 actually took him two hours.

It took me five.

So you know.

Sure.

Almost longer than a day of it.

That's what I always.

Yeah.

Yes.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

It's like it's just amazing for me.

I see if they charged per shot I to get you money.

Right.

If they charge per hour you should run faster.

But they charge per race.

It's a flat rate.

We're all running the same distance from every water station.

Spent about 30 minutes there.

It's been three bananas the other day in the.

What is in your ear?

Headphones.

What is what are some what gets you through?

Are you listening to this show?

Which makes a lot I did, I did so I could get caught up.

Yeah, yeah.

Last couple runs I was so I definitely did.

And that's how I was listening to Jesse, who is a master statistician.

He I have known Jesse, throug the marathon for over 15 years.

Okay.

And he actually was starting to bring lot of public schools involved because because if you look at the marathon course, I mean, it really does hit a lot of things.

I mean, and speaking o like being on the race course, I live on the race course for the dart frog dash.

Okay.

So I always go out and cheer.

I don't run it because I'm I get my coffee and I go, hey, hey, I cheer everybody.

Yeah.

And one year this lady came up and the da frog dash.

And actually the zoo puts on a lot of really good event in the in the south Toledo area.

And this lady came up and she was walking and she said, do you live around here?

And I said, yeah, we're her probably nine months pregnant.

Oh my God, do you need that restroom?

And she said, yes.

And I said, please.

Yeah.

So that's the that's the running community.

You a stranger in my house place.

Yeah.

Money was your favorite plac to run, around northwest Ohio.

Oh, by far, what a dump.

That is my absolute happy place.

I have a tattoo in Ohio.

This is the other two you got.

So this is a picture I took of the yellow trail, which I think to some people called the Scout Trail.

And we actually have a race out there, a 25 K. And sometimes when we get a little bit happy, we do a 50 K out there.

So two loops around the whole park.

Oh, accompanies is my favorite.

Swan Creek is my closest.

And then I love Walbridge Park and Ottawa Park.

I love woman frolicking out of a park as well.

Yeah, that is where we grew up.

So I guess a little bit to what that question that Matt actually had a good question.

But what you what's in between your ears when you're do you haven't did you ever had to psych yourself up or you have to say that you can do it.

Do you just rock out to music?

Oh, I know I can do it.

Yeah, I've been runnin for so long, I know I can do it.

Yeah.

That is this weird thing when you.

You just know you can.

You put.

I put the work in.

I run every day.

I run for about four miles a day.

I can I can do it now a marathon.

Yeah.

That's between your.

That' definitely in your head.

Right.

Because you get to a certain point where it's, it's very challenging.

I, when I was doing the Marine Corps Marathon I'm a, I'm a slower runner compared to Vinnie and as is everybody last year.

And yeah he's the fourth fastest in the United States, the fastest in Ohio.

I mean, it's insane what he did, but I wanted to like lay down and take a little nap.

And you can't really do that.

No, it's frowned upon.

So I listen to Des Linden has a playlist and she is the, I think, the last female American, the one Bosto when that weather was horrible.

And she lives in Michigan so she's actually really close.

So she has a playlist and a lot of the care.

I love the care which you wouldn't think would pump you up, but it does pump me up.

Yeah, yeah, I listen to a lot o Tori Amos when I'm, It's just.

Yeah, I can't listen to music when I run.

Yeah.

What do you do?

You listen to nothing.

Nothing do.

I can't hear that is crazy.

Listen to your own thoughts.

That's insane.

Gretchen's voice is crazy.

That sounds very pleasant.

Yeah, yeah I feel like running right now.

Thanks, Aaron.

I believe it's the Roadrunners that do the race at Patron Saints.

We do on New Year's Eve.

Yes.

That's the midnight special.

And the only reason we can do that there is because of the metro parks, because they do allow us to use that path that night.

So you and there's actually the only five K that takes two years to finish.

And it is one of our longes running races that we've put on as the Roadrunners, I think 45, 40 or 40s over a month drunk.

Not.

Yeah.

They wait until afterwards.

Actually, a lot of people use it as a sober activity.

Oh yeah, absolutely they do.

So I mean, there's both sides, but it is a safe, sober activity.

But it is at night, so you start at 11:45 p.m.

and unless you're running A5K after that, faster than 15 minutes, you'r going to run into the new year.

So you're out on the on the race course seeing the fireworks and people are cheering and some people dress up.

It's really fun.

We had a great exhibit.

We went, my it's funny, my brother and his family all ran in it.

Did you guys have this past year?

It's super fun.

I was blown away.

So we, you know, make our way through the parking lot from Patron saints, walk through.

Like, what are we doing today?

Through the woods, through the woods.

And it had snowed.

And so gosh, you know, snow everywhere.

And you get out there and credit to your team.

That path was pristine, immaculate.

Yeah And so it was an awesome race.

We had, my brother's in-laws, were in from California, ran she actually, was the fastest female time.

And then, the kids ran like it was.

It was just great.

And it was a cool place, a cool thing to spectate and close out.

So I want to start at the beginning.

If somebody was contemplating running or thinking about it or actually just want to do something for themselves, give us from Alpha to Omega here.

That's a lot.

Just spit it out.

Just show up.

Yeah.

Just come to one of our free group runs.

Come to A5K, just show up and we will embrace you.

And we will meet you where you are.

Where do we find information about, Toledo roadrunners.or is where everything is located.

Obviously we're on all the socials and we do want you to come out for our 50th.

That is our big thing.

We are having a major celebration at the Glass City Metropark.

Yeah, because we have a huge sponsorship.

Our partnership with the Metroparks, many of our events are partnered with the Metroparks.

When is that event?

That is July 25th.

Okay.

And we're running A5K in the morning at Glass City.

And then we have a sit down dinner, and people are going to dress up by saying nic at the pinnacle in the evening.

And we want you to come.

You don't have to be a member, just come join us.

What's the next, the next event, the next event is called the Frantic Finish.

And that is that.

Oleander, this is a funny thing.

Everybody starts in a staggered way where you put your fastest time, and then the, you know, the fastest people start the the last, the slowes people start at the beginning.

So you all are supposed to finish together in a frantic way?

Yeah.

Love it.

So very good.

Awesome.

Wonderful.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you.

Take a break.

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Hernandez with the Belief Center.

Thank you so much for being here.

Yeah.

Thank you for inviting me.

How come I always fee like I know everybody in Toledo, but I tell people that every day I meet somebody new, I do know them And you're just not cool enough.

No, I agree, I agree with that.

But I am familiar with th belief center I'm familiar with.

The folk dance group as well.

Talk to us if folks aren't familiar.

Yeah.

Let's start with what is the belief center?

So the belief center is a community center that's in the old south end of Toledo.

We've been around for about 14 years now.

We have youth sports.

We also offer, prevention programing inside schools.

And we have, behavioral health, bilingual navigator.

So we do a lot of different things at the center.

Why the old South End hotel?

Charlton is home.

Yeah, right.

So I'm from the old South End.

And it is just a really great community.

It's an old community.

It's very diverse when you go into the community itself.

But it's a it's really unique in that the old South End does not have traditional schools.

So, there's no high school.

Our kids are all sprawled all over the place.

There's no other community schools that are inside the old South End that are traditional.

So there's a magnet schools and some private schools.

So the center really tries to be that home, in that community.

When Libby High School is around, everybody could say, well, we're all Libby Cowboys.

There's nothing that identifies the old South End that way anymore.

So the belief center tries to be that identity for the community.

So it the belief center started.

What was day one like?

How was identified?

I mean, everything you're saying should be intuitive to most people, that people need a hub for a community.

But what was the sort of the origin story or what was the conversation first like to make this a it was really about sports.

So it's, really just to have sports programing for youth to kind of do that.

The belief centers in the old Boys and Girls Club of Unique Center.

So there's a gym that's there, had a huge crack in the floor, but it worked out great because we would play our sports and things like that.

But now, we have access to the field that's at Danny Thomas Park.

Sure.

So we do programing there.

We do programing inside the center.

The city has redone our gym, s it has a really nice gym floor.

If you haven't come and see it, it's beautiful.

And there's a lot of space there.

So we just do all kinds o different kinds of programing.

But we've really just expanded, especially after Covid.

It just kind of changed.

We became involved with the mental health and recovery service Board.

And they offered to have us do some programing that would reach the Latino community.

So it was a great fit for us.

We, do prevention programing in six different schools, and then we hav our behavioral health navigators that help navigate people to behavioral health in case they're going through hard times.

But then they also navigate some other places as well.

Talk to me about what prevention means.

We have guests on, with some frequency.

And I don't wan to describe them as reactionary.

But we are usually talking about services, sort of after whatever event is occurred.

Talk to me about prevention.

In in why?

So prevention is, is actually about just making really positive choices, right.

So when we're inside the schools, why didn't you choose that And you came on the show anyway?

I know I when I was getting up early this morning, I was thinking about life and thinking like, do I lik what was I thinking by saying, I will be at 7:00 in the morning?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I couldn't do it.

I could not do it.

Please go ahead.

No, it really is about making positive choices, right?

So, we work with fifth and sixth graders.

We work wit some of the other kids as well.

And then it spreads across our other programing.

Obviously we want to make sure that kids who are part of our sport program, part of our other dance and things like that are also getting that, verbiage and understanding what they need to do, but really just making reall good choices, having good friend groups, being able to say no confidently, sure, things like that, and teaching them young.

So then that way when they are in those situations, they feel empowered to make the decisions that are best for them.

We've had some guests on from Historic South and from the Eldridge Foundation and some of the investments in housing and programing and just the streetscape that are all sort of in your neighborhood.

What are you seeing or feeling from both the City of Toledo investments and investment from these organizations also?

Well, it's an exciting place, right?

So, when you see Broadway redone, you see that there's going to be investment in housing.

Just the parks, everything like that.

Danny Thomas Park has a new amphitheater.

There's going to be programing that there again.

Also, land is my home.

So it's really exciting for me.

My family is still all in Old South End.

And so what was living someplace else is like, right in the corner.

I know, yeah.

No, I wish to be living in th old South End, but that is our our family plan.

Yeah.

So, you know, as things kind of go, my my parents and my uncles all live on the same block, and we're planning on staying home.

Yeah.

That's lovely.

We're talking with the Linda Hernandez with the Belief Center.

Folks may be familiar, your folk dancin group gets around the community.

And they're fantastic.

Talk to me about that.

That group and how you got involved with them?

Yeah.

So, the dance group is called El Corazon.

The magical which means the heart of Mexico.

I was going to say the name, but I was like, there's no.

Yeah, it's.

And, I started the group when I was 15 years old.

Come on.

You started the group?

I did, yeah.

There wer only nine of us when we started.

There's, 65 active members now.

We actually are one o the oldest Latino organizations in the city of Toledo, which is kind of cool because you think like, oh, how can that be?

Yeah.

When I started the group at 15 I just really wanted to dance.

That was like my main thing.

I, had been directing another group and, decided to start my own group, and it really has changed.

It really is like a family now, we have created our own network.

So now I have dancers who, are lawyers, who are authors, who are nurses, who work in admissions in different, colleges.

So they help each other.

So then that way they can move forward.

All of our dancers have really great support systems.

They have their families and things like that.

But really, we know that who you know, how you navigate through things really does help you with your career.

One of the other things that's really great about our group is all of our dancer have graduated from high school.

Yeah.

And so when you think about th Latino community and the rate, has, that is like a 70% rate for our Latinos, but we have 100% graduation rate.

That's incredible.

Yeah, absolutely.

Where are some of the cool places that you've been able to perform?

And and what's something on your bucket list that you're like, we've we've not been able to dance there yet, but I want to.

Yeah, we dance at Disney, a couple times which is always really exciting because it's the first time for a lot of our dancers.

And we've danced in Chicago at the Rosewood Theater.

We have also danced in California, and we've been invited to go back to California.

We're going to go to San Jose, next year for a folkloric festival.

Bucket list place that I really would like to go.

I'd really like to go to Washington, D.C.. I think that would be a great trip for our dancers.

We talk to our dancers a lot about voting, especially because they are in district three, which is one of those districts that really can be swung either way by just a handful of votes.

And the other place I always tell the dancers I'm like, why not us?

Let's go to Hawaii.

So I'd love to dance until i Hawaii as well, because again, you know, sayin those kind of things to dancers who a lot of them are fro the old South End, they're from, East Toledo and telling them like, well, why not us?

And opening their mind to that, that it could be we just need to talk to the right person and we can get that invite, and then we'll work our way to get there.

Debbie, a little bit on that.

I mean, this is obviously you're you're teaching dance, you're choreographing dance, you're coming together and it's it's art, but it's more than that.

What what are the lessons that people are taking?

What are you hoping people gain from being a par of the group but also gain from, you know, participating or watching a performance?

So there's three things that I really, I think are the most important thing for my dancers.

Right.

So the first one is to realize that even when we mess up at a performance, that we have to move forward.

So whatever happened, we learned from that in the past, but we're not going to keep talking about that.

We're going to keep moving forward because we have a performance yesterday.

We have a performance today.

So we cannot dwell on that.

We need to just move forward and keep going.

The other thing is to make sure that they always feel very welcomed inside the group.

So, that the know that that's a safe space.

And then the last one is that they can be themselves.

Right.

So there's a lot of places that you can go to that you don't ever feel like you can be yourself.

They can.

I always tell the that we're all dorks and nerds.

I mean, we do Mexican folkloric dancing.

I mean, that's not really something that you're like, oh, that's something that everyone does.

So we can all be weird together.

Yeah.

Which is really special so that you can be yourself when you're credibly wel articulated, if you don't mind.

When we talk about celebrating diversity, which I think the everyone that we ever had on the show, would prescribe to I Toledo is is not a very diverse town.

Right.

But talk to me about if you can and that's it.

You're a single spokesperson for the Latino community.

But talk to me about the pride this community, and the sort of the essence of it.

I actually feel like Toledo is very diverse.

You know, when we go different places.

I mean, I think that the charm of Toledo and I think that the support that, our communities have is really special.

I mean, you, when I went to school, I went to school at Westfield when it was still a community school.

I went to school with all different races.

We even had kids who were from Vietnam who were there.

And so experiencing all of that, I think, is really kind of such Toledo apart from a lot of different places, because, we're not as segregate as when you go to other places.

And, the community itself, I think, is very accepting of a lot of the things that we do.

Especially because I think when you see kids dancing.

Yeah, you see your own kids dancing and Latino kids, are very they all look different.

Right?

So you can see any one of those kids and see your own child in that group.

Being part of our group, you don't need to be Mexican to be part of the group.

You don't need to be Latino.

So we don't even ask that question.

So we have different kinds of cultures have been part of it before.

But it's not something tha you have to be to be part of it.

We don't ask.

We don't ask you.

Can you tell us a little bit about your relationship with Toledo Community Foundation and, what they're speaking of support, what their support has meant to the center.

Toledo Community Foundation has been such a great partner to us.

You know, it's it's kind of weird because, as a nonprofit, I think a lot of nonprofits, they're grassroots organizations.

And so you really need to kind of learn how to write grant and understand all these things.

But to the the Community Foundation is great in that askin those questions, it's great for, really learning how to do grants.

They offer a lot of different kinds of classes, a lot of different kinds of workshops, so that you can understand what you need to do.

One of our grants that we just received is our Arts and Culture grant that's going with El Corazon, the goal for our Dia de Los Muertos performance that will be happening in the fall.

What's really cool about it is we always do performance in the fall for Dia de Los Muertos, but this year we're partnering up with some of the local schools so that we'll do some creative writing.

We'll do some art pieces that go along with it will be able to provide transportation.

We really wanted it to be that not just that the youth that come to see the performance, but also too, when they come there, they'll also be able to see their art on display as well.

We're talking with Alena Hernandez with the Belief Center.

All right, Elena, buckle up.

It's no time for Gretchen's wacky quiz.

Prepare.

You ready?

While she's ready, I'm goin to ask for rapid fire questions.

Okay.

Gretchen's going to ask yo to describe Toledo in one word.

And then you and Matt are going to list out the nine best things.

Okay.

In Toledo.

All right.

Here we go.

Question number one.

Which of your parents do you think was stricter?

My dad.

Have you ever failed a subject in school?

Now, what?

No, I mean, good job.

What's something you learned about your family, while you were growing up?

That we didn't really have a lot, but my parents never made us feel like we did it.

Beautiful.

If you had to share a lottery prize with one other family member, who would you choose?

Oh, that's a hard one.

I want to pass.

You might They might listen to the show.

I like it.

Yeah, because they might win.

I know, but then you'd be out.

I feel like anyone of my family would share, so I think I could share with pretty much anyone.

Yeah.

Hop out.

That's a good way.

Good for you.

Good for you.

Yeah, yeah.

What I want to say which I'm hoping they would win.

So then that way.

That's my point.

Yeah.

You can't.

Yeah.

What's the odds I was I have three children.

So if I said one of them like yeah, but do you know which one you'd pick.

You do.

Yeah you do We know I got three kids.

Two.

And I have one for you.

So which one?

Yeah.

What's your what's the one word you would us to describe the city of Toledo?

Home.

Okay.

Love it.

All right.

You ready?

Yes.

We're doing that.

Okay, okay.

Starting from the top.

Number one, middle ground.

Yes.

Metro Park.

God bless you.

I don't do that.

Yes, I love that.

What a great start.

Yes, yes.

All right.

Also, the high level bridge.

Yeah.

When it was closed, I was devastated.

I even had a necklace that I wore that had the high level on it.

So that remind me every single day when you said you weren't cool before I believed you.

But now.

Yeah, sure.

You're a total nerd.

Yes, yes, yes, I'm a Toledo dork.

Yes.

All right, keep going.

I would say.

Oh, tough end, tough end.

Yes.

Saint Peter and Paul parish.

Yes.

Great.

My family in general.

I love my family.

You especially my parents.

Yeah.

Yeah, we have to say tha because your dad's terrifying.

Yeah, he can be.

Yes, yes, yes, I'm picking up on.

Yes.

Yeah.

All right.

You got three left.

What do you eat, mantis?

All right.

Which one?

The original.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right.

But they're babies in the.

Oh, my cat.

Gordita.

Yeah.

Gordita.

That's nice.

Yeah.

And then your cat.

I guess you had Taco Bell.

Yes, yes.

Last it was just a baby.

And now she's huge.

Yeah.

She grew into the name.

Yeah.

Okay.

And then I would have to say, my my husband and kids.

Yeah.

I love it.

Yes.

Very good.

Layla, thank you so much for being here.

Of course.

Where can people find mor information on the belief Center so you can visit our website, Bleed Center talk.

And if you'd like to know more about the dance group, you can visit our website.

El Corazon Amico dance.com.

We're running out of time here.

We did not talk about it.

You've got a car show coming up later in May.

May 24th car show and then you have a perimenopause event May 29th, which I know Matt is very excited about.

I'm a survivor.

Yeah.

But, and of course, more information is about the men.

More information on all those events are available on your website.

Exactly.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for joining us.

We'll take a break when we come back, we're going climb in with the folks from Adventist Climbing here on the 419.

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There's so many cool ways that you can be a tourist in your own town, and one of the coolest places you can get to, is Adventist climbing.

I still refer to it as a new climbing gym membership, but you guys have been open for a couple of years.

Yeah, it'll be three, in August already, but we still feel new.

Yeah.

So we're joined now by Laura Hoag and Kelly Lacy.

Thank you so much for being here.

What is it that is climbing?

Adventist climbing is full service rock climbing gym.

And it we featur all different types of climbing, so we have tall walls, almost 40ft as well as bouldering.

And then we have classes and programs and it really is climbing is a sport, for anybody.

We create space for anyone to climb.

It's a newly, made Olympic sport as well if that's if I'm not mistaken.

It's actually a little bit about, both of your stories.

I mean, we are then the last place on Earth, so I can't imagine a lot of climbing unless it was on to a highway overpass.

Well, that's why we built it.

Yeah, that's that's it.

I get this job because, No, I didn't get this job either way.

But talk to me about that.

Why?

Why climbing?

Why?

Toledo, Ohio.

So.

Well it started with a group of eight different owner partners that came together, and we were all thinking about building a rock climbing gym in northwest Ohio.

Because we had such a gap.

People were driving u to Ann Arbor, over to Cleveland.

And so we all were brought together, and made it happen.

And each of us had a unique stor in terms of why rock climbing?

For my husband and I, it was that we wanted to provide another form of indoo recreation for Northwest Ohio, because we don't have a lot of thing to do during the winter months, and it's a great fitness alternative.

A lot of people think you hav to have upper body strength, but really, no, anyone can climb.

But this is we'll tell you, we'll just get we'll get to you in just a second.

But you are a community starter, as well.

So this isn't your first time creating community aroun sort of getting off the couch.

Correct.

Do you mind giving me a little bit of background?

Yeah.

So my husband and I are co-owners with the business partner of Cycle Works.

So Bicycles and fitness and so.

Yeah, so having the trai right behind us was handy too.

We are exactly 3.14 miles from our Sylvania King Road store because we did a Pi Day event there.

Yeah.

Going between the two.

So yeah, we really believe in this community and really believe in providing health and fitnes opportunities in real community.

I mean, people don't just go get their bikes.

The cycle works.

You, at the risk of outin both of you are friends of mine.

So I have a real bias here.

But.

That's right.

Well, no one else needs it, so we'll edit that out.

Usually my preference, but but, but people come in.

The cycle works not just for one time purchase.

Correct.

That is a it is a friendshi and it's a community building.

So hope you're.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So Kelly, what's your connection to climbing?

I enjoy doing it.

So I started right before Covid hit.

It was something that I wanted to try out.

And I, like Laura, mentioned, I had to go to Michigan because that was the closest facility to us at the time.

So oh, gosh, just going out my age.

But that was 11 years ago and my 20s.

And so when we, you know, found out that there is a gym here, I've known Laura for actually a very long time.

We have a lot of history as well.

I decided to go climbing there, and then somehow I ended up working there and that's how she gets here.

This is another life I know, I know, I know.

Well, I'm in Toledo, lifer, so it makes sense.

You know, it's it was something that I really wanted to do.

Like I had kind of a midlife crisis of going into my 30s that I was like, I need to do something that scares me.

So I tried it then, and now I'm leaning into my 40s and I'm like, I need a job.

Let me ask you, I have decided to have my midlife crisis.

Now come.

Come with me.

Yeah.

Come fall off of rocks.

But you are.

You are a fitness oriented person.

I try to be.

Yeah.

Why?

Why climbing?

Because it's something that's different than anything else.

You know, Adventist does a really good job of building community, just like cycle works does, you come in there and you leave with friends regardless of if you want to or not.

You know, our staff and crew are really good about introducing people to each other.

So if you come in there by yourself, you know, you always know that you're not going to be alone, which I think is a really unique thing about a space, especially a request.

And so it's just really nice to work out, but also feel like you're jus having your social time as well.

And so there's something about, you know, going to a gym and really being a part of a community and hanging out and catching up with your friends and also getting a really good workout without knowing it to like going down to your dark basement and jumping on the treadmill or, you know, doing things like that solo which really do feel.

Yeah, I've seen your basement killing.

It is just about the entry level components of this before a teeing up.

This interview, Kevin mentioned that he's afraid of heights.

But so am I. But but there's social components to this.

You know, going into a gym, for your first time can be intimidating.

Although the transactional nature of how to climb might seem a little bit easier, but it's not just a little about the entry level.

Day one the 101 version for Adventists.

I think one of the things we do really well at Adventist is that we are super beginner friendly.

Yeah.

When Laura says we try to create space for anyone to climb, we really mean it.

I sometimes work as a facility guide there, which is somebody who takes, you know, the new person around shows them the ropes, literally.

And, I mean, I know that I personally try to make sure everybody leaves.

They're feeling like they're well equipped to be able to come back on their own without any help.

But we prepare you for any situation.

Our video that you watch online for, for a waiver.

Of course, there's waivers.

Is very, well done in regards to the safety aspects.

And then us in person and our members too, who are also already there.

And our experience climbing are really good about taking beginners under their wing and showing them exactly what they need to know to be able to at least complete a couple routes comfortably.

Yeah.

And actually, a lot of people hav a fear of heights that come in, and it's a way to conquer tha fear because or work towards it.

Yeah, because each time you climb a route, you try to get one more hold higher and then you can come back down again.

I mean, there's no commitment.

We're not going to force you to the top of the wall and leave you there.

And maybe we are going to you one, even if you're afraid of heights, you're like excitement over the fact that you climbed a little bit higher than the time before.

It kind of negates that.

Yeah.

I, a number of years ago this would have been at at Toledo Jeep Fest.

Metroparks had their rock wall, there and my kids climbed it and went to the top, and my youngest would not come back down.

And so I still up there to yeah, that would have been safer, so that I had to go up and get him.

And was like, oh, yeah, I got this.

And I went up and I got there my like, I'm like I'm, I'm not coming back down.

Yeah.

But the whole thing is like that.

His wife.

Idea of like, just trust the auto bela and like, yeah, you'll be fine.

I'm like, no, no, no, no, I won't let that happen.

I'm too.

I'm too headed to this where people get stuck or they get afraid.

So then what do you do?

They don't get stuck.

Let's just.

I just for safety reasons, they don't get stuck.

They always come down safely.

But we do also have things called top rope.

So we offer three different types of tall wall climbing.

And we have lead, which is probably the most scariest of them all and the most advanced.

But you take the rope up with you, clip in, and you're taking about 10 to 15, sometimes even 20 depending on your layer, falls.

It's super exciting for those people who are looking for that next challenge.

But the other two that are more beginner friendly is top rope in Auto Blaze.

Auto blaze automatically bring you down once you let go of the wall.

If you let go of the wall and then the top rope you have somebody who's actively bullying you on the other side, which is probably what a lot of peopl are familiar seeing in movies, who are certified, which we do offer classes to get you certified as well.

So those are also beginner friendly.

But then you don't automatically come down the belay or actually chooses to bring you down when you're ready, which for people who are afraid of heights, I always suggest having somebody try that with you, because instead of that trusting a machine that's in the air that you've never trusted before, you're trusting somebod who is certified on the ground, and you can actually feel th weight of them on your harness.

Yeah, that would be helpful for me.

What you mentioned movies?

Yes.

I'm interested.

Like, I feel like again, in most of these, like most career that are presented, their most anything presented in movies is a little exaggerated, but I'm not.

Had a your take on how rock climbing is portrayed in film.

I'll tell you, I even made a customer service call and she was talking about the reality show.

I guess that's on right now of some extreme three soloist who's climbing without ropes.

And that is extreme.

And really, what we're trying to do is introduce climbing and normalize it, because anybody can do it.

It's a great workout.

And so that's almost a distraction from the sport of climbing.

Like we've had a climbing team for the past two years and sent someone to nationals last year.

And again, we have someone going to nationals this year.

So it's amazing that in two short years youth can get involved that way and engage in the sport of climbing.

It's the sport, the, the height, the speed, the the distance between what is what is it?

Is the sport part of it?

The sport part of it is that it engages all different elements of fitness.

So it is strength, it's flexibility.

It's your core.

And it's not just physical, it's also mental.

They're body puzzles on the wall.

So you have a particular color holds to the top.

And you have to figure out how do you shift your bod to small body position changes can get you that next reach to the hold.

And so that's the sport part of it.

And there are different, types of competition.

Like there's bouldering, there's lead like Kelly said.

And there's speed climbing that a lot of people saw in the Olympics.

So we have one of our athletes who trains to do speed climbing, like most things.

And we we hinted at or alluded to this a little bit earlier, but climbing a gym roadrunners run.

These are, you know, vectors to get you someplace else usually or strength in the muscle that's between your years, whic I think we can all, test being the most critical for a lifelong, or in the pursuit of happiness.

Tell me the philosophy of Adventists.

And the two of you, in term of the space between your head and this being a value, I honestly think that we don't get challenged enough in our day to day.

I think that the.

Yes.

But, you know, the world's become really comfortable, right?

Like, we don't even.

I went to some conference for my son years ago, and the English teacher was not concerned that his spelling wasn't great because she was like, well, computers are goin to be correcting that anyways.

You know, we've kind of gone into this autopilot and, you know, I really think that making yourself do hard things is really important in regard to growing personally, mentally, physically and so doing something challenging like running or like climbing, which some people are scared of heights.

I'm actually personally very scared of heights.

So every day that I go to wor and I climb, or I do something that helps me grow I think it's really important.

And so I think climbing is something that is missing from a lot of people's lives and they don't even realize it.

And seeing people come in for the first time is probably one of the best things of my job, because I do see them grow from that moment, whether it's a, oh my gosh, I didn't thin I could do something so scary.

Or it's a wow.

I didn't think I was strong enough to actually get up as high as I did.

So again, just doing things that scare you, I think is really important.

And that's just something that's missing from a lot of people's live with respect to the, you know, public broadcast nature o of this station and what we do.

I don't want to get into pricing specifically, but talk to m about, what access looks like.

Right.

Is this a membership plan?

Is this a we d I can pay for pay for one day.

Yeah.

So we have day passes, which we do offer a lower, day pass rate for 12 and under.

Even for has a special, price for their, toddler passes, spectators, toddler, are you for.

He claims.

He claims.

Yeah.

But, you know so you can come in and do open climb as a day pass member.

I covers you for the entire day.

So are the rentals.

Which is great because because we do have the wonderful parks trails behind us and that wonderful park down the street.

You can take a brea during the day with your kids.

Go do that.

Come back.

You still have your day pass to use.

But we do also member our do memberships that I thin personally are very affordable.

I'm somebody who's held memberships all over the city on different gyms.

And for the amount of acces we give you to climb unlimited during members only hours o sorry members preferred hours.

And our gym.

We do have cardio and weights as well and programing.

It's a great deal and then we do also, do a student membership as well for those who are full time in school.

And then right now we have summer memberships going on.

So we're talking with Laura an Kelly from Adventist Climbing.

We asked the question we had Erin, from Little Roadrunners on the show earlier today and asked what she listens to when she's running.

I'm curious what your soundtrack is when you're climbing.

That's a great question.

I was very angry.

Music.

I was going I was going to say I listen to whatever the really young people put on over the loudspeakers.

You know what?

Whatever I say.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah, if I were choosing those.

So I want to start a progressive rockers group.

There you go.

Yeah.

Now.

So playing 90s music.

Movie.

Right.

Music some, you know, cure New Order or something like two reference.

Oh, yeah.

They were still around.

Yeah.

Oh, they're not happening.

Right.

When there was a big cure for, So I'll have to connect with Aaron.

This is the mos the cure has been, talked about.

That should be a theme for the group.

If you want to come and cry while you're crying.

What about you?

Kill?

Just really angry music.

I know it sounds terrible, but, like, I like hard rap.

Hardcore rap is like, really?

It's just that telling with a pig.

Yes, I know, that's why people are so surprised when they hear my earbuds.

When it comes out, they're like oh no, I wasn't expecting that.

Or honestly, old school punk.

Yeah.

All right.

It's like, yeah, it's just like when you think of old school punk in your terms, that is, like vaudeville.

Yeah, they were kind of just that just banging pots and pans together.

What?

What i someone need to bring with them if they're coming for the first day?

What do they wear?

What do you need any other special equipment to bring with you on day one?

Suit and tie.

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

That's are important to wear with the rental shoes.

Other than that you can like I would climb in like these stretchy jeans or something comfortable.

You're going to be moving.

And we ask that people take off any buckles or anything that might, cause harm while they're climbing with the harness.

So leave your fancy dangly earrings at home.

Oh.

Kevin's medallion.

You know, all of the chains.

Maybe.

Don't answer things that because you will be above everybody else.

So again, leave that up just a little.

Is my entire outfit just my.

Yes.

You're down.

Yeah, yeah, bu otherwise it's come as you are.

Okay.

You don't need to bring anything because we have the rental harness and the rental shoes for you.

We also have socks you can purchase in, socks you can purchase if you forget the harness.

I see, but I didn't realize there was also shoes that go with this.

All right.

Yeah.

And unlike running, they're super uncomfortable.

Yeah.

So that's the kind of polar opposite to running is.

It is they're not meant to be comfortable, which some people are surprised by.

I don't it make you want to get to the top.

Yes.

Yes exactly.

That's the goal.

All right I, I've got to come out.

Yeah.

Me too And try to come to the sphere.

Yeah.

Let's do it.

Let's do it.

You do a live show, a 419 competition.

You are very welcome.

I'm in.

We're gonna take a shout out.

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