ARE IN POMONA AT THE L.A. COUNTY >> VISITING WITH HUELL HOWSER IS MADE POSSIBLE THROUGHITH HUE A GENEROUS GRANT FROM...S GENEROUSIBLEBY A FROM...S GRANT FROM [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY M. P KCET PUBLIC TELEVISIONON'S FOUNA AND FRIENDS OF NCI].

Huell: WELL, HELLO, EVERYBODY.

I'M HUELL HOWSER, AND HERE WE >> Huell: WELL ARE IN POMONA AT THE L.A. COUNTY EVE I'M HUELL HOWSER.L.A.

COUNTY AND HERE WE FAIRGROUNDS.

AND WE ARE STANDIN THE HERE AT THE "RAILWAY AND LOCOMOTIVE HISTORICAL SOCIETY SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CHAPTER,A.

COUNTY FAIR GROUNDS AND A NON-PROFIT CORPORATION WE'RE SUPPORTED BY DONATIONS.

WE CALIFORNIA CHAPTER A NO MAINTAIN OUR RAILROADN COLLECTION.

WE HAVE INTERESTING SUPPORTED MONTHLY MEETINGS.

AND WE GO ON.

WE MAINTAIN OUR RAILROAD COLLECTION, WE HAVE RAILROAD EXCURSIONS."

AND MOST MONTHLY MEETING, AND WE IMPORTANTLY, RIGHT DOWN HERE, G EXCURSION "WE HAVE FUN."

AND THAT'S WHAT RIGHT DOWN WE'RE HERE TO DO TODAY.

WE'RE WE HAVE FUN!

AND THA GOING TO HAVE SOME RAILROAD FUN DO TODAY.

HERE AND WHAT A GREAT PLACE TO DO IT RAILRO RIGHT HERE--EVERYBODY, WAVE ATA.

AND WHAT A GREA THE CAMERA.

THIS IS, UH--THISTT IT RIGHT HERE.

EVERYBODY COULD BE THE BEGINNING OF AT THE H WHOLE NEW CAREER.

TELL US-- IS -- THIS CAN BE THE BEGINNING OF WELL, FIRST OF ALL, INTRODUCE WHOLE NEW C YOURSELF TO EVERYBODY.AREL >> HUELL, MY NAME'S BOB CRADLE.

I'M PAST CHAIRMAN OF THECE YOURT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CHAPTER.O .

Huell: OK, AND WE ARE STANDING I'M IN FRONT OF A VERY HISTORIC BOB CRADLE I'M CHAIRMAN OF BUILDING.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

THIS WAS THE.

N FRONTL ARCADIA STATION, BUILT BACK IN 1887.

AND ABOUT 1971,OF THE VERY HISTORIC BUILDING.

>>CORRECT IT RAILWAY DECIDED THEY DID NOT NEED IT, SO IT WAS ORIGINAL ARCADIA STATION AND MADE AVAILABLE TO US.

WE TRANSPORTED IT HERE BY TRUCK ANE TRAILER, AND SET IT UP ON THE RD FAIRGROUNDS WITH THEIRTHEY PERMISSION.OT Huell: SO YOU SAVED THIS FROM NT AND WE DESTRUCTION?NSPORTED >> THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'SRE.

AN INTERESTING STRUCTURE IN THAO IT'S MOSTLY ALL BUILT WITHTHIS FROM REDWOOD, SOMETHING THAT WEN.

>> THAT RARELY SEE IN CONSTRUCTION THES INTERESTING DAYS.STRUCTURE Huell: WOW, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL OLR STATION.

WHAT WOULD HAVE NG W HAPPENED UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

UP THERE?

WOULD PEOPLE HAVE H I OLD D UP THERE?A BEAU >> THAT WELL COULD HAVE BEEN TH AGENT'S QUARTERS FOR HIS FAMILYD HOWEVER, IT WAS, IN LATTER FLOO?

WOUL YEARS, USED MORE FOR STORAGE.D .

> THAT Huell: SO PEOPLE IN ARCADIA WIL FAMILY'S QUARTERS BUT IN RECOGNIZE THIS?LAT >> I SURE HOPE SO.

Huell: DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE FROM ARCADIA COMING BY JUST FOR OLD TIME'S SAKE TO LOOK AT THEIR OLS TRAIN STATION?

USED FOR STORA >> ONLY THE OLD TIMERS, FOR OLD TIME'S SAKE.

Huell: ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, WE'VE PEOPLE IN A GOT A NICE GROUP HERE.

IS THEREC USED THIS.

HAVE THE GROUP THIS BIG OUT HERE ON A SUNDAY MORNING?

>> SOMETIMES LARGER.TIMERS COMING Huell: REALLY?

AROUND.

>> YES, SIR.

WE Huell: TO DO WHAT?

WORK ON THE TRAINS?

A BIG >> THEY'RE WORKING ON THE EQUIPMENT, PLUS WE HAVE A LOT OS VISITORS FROM THROUGHOUT THE ALW WORLD THAT COME TO THIS DISPLAY GROUP.

PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF OURMETIME INTERESTING EQUIPMENT, AND SOAVF VISITO THROUGHOUUR DOCENTS ARE AVAILABLE JUST TO TELL THEM THED LORE OF RAILROADING AND ALSO TO EXPLAIN THE HISTORY OF THESEDISI LOCOMOTIVES.M BECAU Huell: SO PEOPLE CAN COME HERE,E JUST LIKE WE'RE COMING HERE THI D ERE JUST LIKE W COME UR,T.

HERELF-GUIDED TOUR, OR THEY CAN THIS MORNING A TALK TO THE PEOPLE HERE AND FIN SELF OUT INFORMATION, JUST HANG OUT HERE AT THE RAILROAD YARD?

GUID THE PEOPLE >> THAT'S CORRECT.

WE'RE OPEN OD NFAND JUST HANGOUTND OF THET AILROAD YARD.ROUGHOUT THE L.A. >> COUNTY FAIRPLEX WHICH IS ABOUT T A 9--CORRECTION--3-WEEK EVENT I EVERY SECOND WEEK OF THE MONTH AND SEPTEMBER.

Huell: OK, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.OUGT NOW, YOU ALL, WE'RE GOING TO START DOWN THE ROAD.

YOU ALL, IE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO MEETUN WE'RE GOINGTO STARTE TO MEET YO.

ALL.

WE'LL SEE YOU AROUND HERE .

EET YOU DOWN T, THE FELLOWS THA WANT TO COME WITH US.

TELL USHEU AROUND WHAT IT IS WE'RE LOOKING ATTER.

COME ON THE FELLOWS THEçAT WANT TO HERE, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKEITH .

TELL YOU'VE GOT A REAL NICES COLLECTION GOING UP AND DOWN TH LOOKING WAY HERE.IT LOOKS LIKE >> YES, WE HAVE A RATHER SMALLU NICE COLLECTION IN RELATION TO MANY RAILROAD MUSEUMS THROUGHOUT THEA COUNTRY, BUT WE HAVE SOME OF THE >> YES WE HAVE LARGEST AND MOST UNIQUE PIECESON OF EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE.

RIGHT OR THE RIGHT SIDE OF US IS WHAT'S .

BUT OSTWN AS A SANTA FE HUDSON-STYL LOCOMOTIVE.

THIS WOULD BE UN A HIGH-SPEED PASSENGER TRAIN.

P. IT'S KNOWN AS A WHEN IT OPERATED IN THE SANTA F SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY, IT WAS NOTE.

THIS WO TO GO 105 MILES PER HOUR.

A Huell: WOW.

THAT'S A BIG ONE.D PASSENGER TRAIN IT WAS NOTED TO >> THAT CERTAINLY IS.

ON THE GO 105 OTHER SIDE, WE HAVE WHAT ISHOUR.

>> Huel CALLED A NARROW GAUGE.

THAT IS, ONE.

IT'S 3-FOOT GAUGE, OR 3 FOOTIT .

ON THE OTHER BETWEEN THE RAILS.

THIS ISE WE ARROWDUSTRIAL LOCOMOTIVE THAT OPERATED FOR UNITED STATESGAUGE T POTASH DOWN IN CARLSBAD, RA NEW MEXICO.

INDUSTRIAL Huell: NOW THIS LOOKS LIKE AN LL MOTIVE THAT OLD ONE HERE.ERATED >> WELL, THESE ARE ALL OLD.

THI ONE WAS BUILT IN 1903.

CARLSBAD MEXICO.

>> Huell: THIS Huell: WOW.

WHERE DO YOU GET LI OLD ONE.

>> THESE THINGS?THIS WAS BUILT >> THESE WERE DONATED BY THE VARIOUS OWNERS.

THAT IS, THE IN 1903 CLASS ONE RAILROADS, SUCH AS THE >> Huell: SANTA FE LOCOMOTIVE ON OUR WHER RIGHT.

WE HAVE SOUTHERN PACIFICT THESE THINGS.

>> MOS LOCOMOTIVES AND UNION PACIFICDO LOCOMOTIVES AS WE CONTINUE DOWN.

WE'VE THE LINE.OT SOU Huell: SO WHEN THEY GO OUT OF MOT SERVICE, DO THE RAILROAD AND SOUTHERN PACIFIC LOCAL MOTIVE.

COMPANIES--THEY REALLY DON'T>> OUT HAVE ANY USE FOR THEM, BUT SERV, DO THE R COULDN'T THEY SCRAP 'EM AND MAKC A LOT OF MONEY JUST ON THEESTHEA METAL?E FOR THEM.

>> WELL, NOT MUCH MONEY ON THETT METAL, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT BACKHN IN THE FORTIES, THE FIFTIES, ON METAL.

>> INTO THE SIXTIES, THE RAILROADSH IN DID MAKE THESE AVAILABLE FORL.

BUT IN PARKS AND LIKEWISE DISPLAYS MUC0 LIKE THIS.s Huell: NOW THIS IS A BIG ONE'50 MADE RIGHT HERE.

>> THIS CERTAINLY IS.

THIS WOULT BE A SOUTHERN PACIFIC CLASS 500.

>> Huell: NOW THIS IS A BIG > THISRE.

LOCOMOTIVE, THIS ONE NUMBERED BR ACIFIC21.

CLASS Huell: NOW DOES EACH LOCOMOTIVE MOTIVE, HAVE A PERMANENT NUMBER ON IT T. THAT STAYS WITH IT ITS WHOLE Huell: DOES LIFE, LIKE THIS ONE WAS 5021?

SH HAVE A PER >> FOR THE MOST PART, HUELL,MANH THEY WOULD STAY WITH IT FOR THEI LIFE OF THE LOCOMOTIVE, BUT AS H RAILROADS WOULD BUY UP ONE WAS 5021.

>> LOCOMOTIVES FROM OTHER FOR MOST RAILROADS, THERE WERE TIMESHEY WHERE THESE NUMBERS WOULD STAY CHANGE.

WIT IT Huell: BUT A HARDCORE TRAINITH LIFE.

BUT BUFF, IF YOU SAID, "THE 5021,"EE TIMES WHEN THESE NUMBERS WOULD CHANGE.

>> Huell: THEY'D KNOW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

A >> YES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU TR IDENTIFIED IT WITH THE HOST IF RAILROAD, THE ORIGINAL OWNER,U 1 THE SOUTHERN PACIFIC.

THEY WOULD K Huell: NOW DOES ANY OF THISW WH STILL OPERATE, OR IS THIS JUST IDEN KIND OF SITTING HERE-- WITHHE S P [DIAL SQUEAKS] >> Hu Huell: WELL, THESE STILL TURN.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU'LL FIND THAT ALL OF THE PARTS ON THESEJ - LOCOMOTIVES THAT WE MAINTAIN, IE WHEELS S >> THAT'SWILL TURN, BUT THEY CORRECT YOU'LL TRULY ARE INOPERATIVE IN THET MF CURRENT STATE.

PARTS Huell: THEY'RE JUST SITTINGWILL HERE.

HOW'S YOU GET THESE THINGS HERE?BUT THE >> MANY OF THEM WERE BROUGHT INT BY RAIL, SUCH AS THIS PARTICULA.

>> Huell: LOCOMOTIVE.

SOME OF THE SMALLER.

EQUIPMENT CAN BE BROUGHT IN BY> TRUCK AND TRAILER.T Huell: ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'VE GOT AND MANY OF IT CAN BE BROUGHT IN BY WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT?

TRUCK ANI >> WELL, THAT'S AN INTERESTING CAR.

THE SANTA FE, THROUGH THE A RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY, USED TO EXPRESS.

>> TRANSPORT RACEHORSES TO THET'S .

THE SANTA RACETRACKS THROUGH THE UNITED F, STATES, AND SO THIS IS A CAR TH RAILWAY THAT WOULD TRANSPORT, I BELIEVE, EXPORT WOULD TRANSPORT AS MANY AS 12 RACEHORSES AT THE THISCAR THALACES LIKE-- Huell: YOU ARE KIDDING!T WOULDPT >> LIKE SANTA ANITA RACETRACK IY AS ARCADIA.

Huell: I'VE NEVER HEARD OF2 HOR A HORSE EXPRESS BEFORE.CESTIME.

>> Huell: YOU'RE KIDDING.

>> YES, THEY HAD A WHOLE FLEET OF THESE CARS, AND OF COURSE, W THEN HAVE IT AS A UNIQUE BEFORE.

>> DISPLAY, BUT ALSO FOR STORAGE.

O Huell: NOW THIS IS JUST T AND WE A FREIGHT CAR HERE.

NOW HAVE FOR >> WELL, TO THE, UH, FIRST VIEW FOR STORAGE.

>> Huell: WELL IT DOES LOOK LIKE JUST A FREIGH CAR.

IN THIS CASE, IT'S ACTUALLY FR >> WELL TO TOR CAR.E Huell: AH, SO NOW THIS WOULDHE LIKE A FREIGH HAVE APPLIED TO CALIFORNIA, BUT ACTUAL BECAUSE WE SHIPPED OUR PRODUCE LY ALL OVER AMERICA IN THESE THINGS.

A >> VERY MUCH SO.

AT THE END OFA.

>> Huell: EACH--ON THE END OF THE CARS, TY TO THERE ARE BULKHEADS OR BUNKERS SHIP O FOR ICE, AND THE ICE WOULD BE P THINGS.

>> YES.

DROPPED IN FROM HATCHES ON THE HE HEAD OF T TOP, AND THAT WOULD MAINTAIN THR FOR ICE AND COOL TEMPERATURE ON THEULD BE INTERIOR OF THIS CAR.

DROPPED Huell: NOW THERE'S A BELL GOINGF DOWN HERE.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?.

>> ELL ELL, I THINK SOMEONE'S JUST TESTING THE BELL ON THE HERE.

W EQUIPMENT.HAT DOES T >WELL laughing: OK.

MEAN?

NOW THIS ONE LOOKS MODERN OVERK JUST TESTING T HERE, THE UNION PACIFIC.

WAITHE: OH OKAY.

A MINUTE.

BEFORE WE GET TO THATI ONE L THEVE GOT A CABOOSE.

AND YOU DON'T SEE CABOOSES AS MUCH THESE UNION PACIFIC.

BEFORE WE GET DAYS AS YOU USED TO.

TO THAT >> CABOOSES PRETTY MUCH HAVE GOA BEEN TAKEN OFF THE LINES.

THEY E TRULY HAVE BECOME SOMEWHAT OF AS OFTEN LIABILITIES BECAUSE CREWS GOT Y.

>> BOUNCED AROUND IN CABOOSES.

THIE ONE, HOWEVER, IS INTERESTING.A .

BUT IT'S CALLED A DROVER'S CABOOSE.E Huell: A WHAT?

ABIT OF >> A DROVER'S CABOOSE.

IT WOULD.

THIS BE USED ON CATTLE TRAINS, AND IS HAD EXTRA BUNK SPACE IN IT FOR C THE COWBOYS THAT WOULD HAVE TO GET OUT AND WATER THE COWS ON CA THE TRAIN UP AHEAD.BOOZE.

THEY WOU Huell: YOU'RE KIDDING!

TO >> YES, THIS WOULD HOLD AS MANY AS 4 COWBOYS, AND THEY WOULD COWS MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE CATTLE TD WERE CERTAINLY GETTING WATER>> H YOU'RE KID BEFORE THEY WERE TAKEN TO> MARKET.IS Huell: SO THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN H AT THE TAIL END OF A CATTLECOWBE TRAIN?ULD GET >> THAT'S CORRECT.WATER.

Huell: I'M NOT SURE THE SMELL H: WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO GOOD BACK HERE IN THE BACK.THETA O >> WELL, YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBERT THEY WERE COWBOYS.

I'M SURE THE: SMELLUSED TO IT.MNOTSU Huell: CAN WE GO IN THIS THING?.

WT LOOKS LIKE THE DOOR'S OPEN.

>> SURE.

COWBOYS I'M SURE THEY Huell: I'M FOLLOWING YOU.

THIS > Huell: IS GREAT.

CAN GO IN THIS THING.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE DOOR IS OPEN.

I'M FOLLOWING YOU.

HIS IS GREAT!THE CABOOSE, WE'REWELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, SO YOU GOT TOE TELL ME.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT.

OF THE BUNKS.

LOOK AT THIS, TO TE CAMERON.

THIS JUST COMES...VIOUE OF THE BUNKS.

LOOK >> THIS WOULD BE A PLATFORM FOR.

A BUNK BED.

THE COWBOYS WOULDS - Eç THIS.

SLEEP IN HERE, AS THEY WOULDHISD STAY WITH THIS ENTIRE TRAIN-- B FOR Huell: NOW WOULD THIS PULL OUT AND MAKE A BED, TOO?

OR IS THIS-- TH >> THAT'S CORRECT.

MUCH LIKE A STANDARD MOTOR HOME.E COWBOYS Huell: AND WE GOT A LITTLE DESK.

>> OVER HERE WITH A--THAT'S LIKE D THIS PULL OUT AND MAKE A BED.

>> A KEROSENE LANTERN.

YES MUCH LIKE A MOTOR HOME.S CAR WAS CERTAINLY USED BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN Hue ELECTRICITY DID NOT EXIST ON L CABOOSES, SO-- Huell: SO THIS IS WHERE THE PAPERWORK WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE, A CARASEN HERE.E >> YES, THE CONDUCTOR WOULD LOCATE HIMSELF HERE.

Huell: AND LOOK AT THIS.

THIS L. >> YES.

T WOULD HAVE KEPT HIM WARM, AND C HIMSELF HERE.

>> HIS WOULA PAN IN HERE, SO THEue.

IDEA IS, THEY LITERALLY COOKED AND YOU'VE GOT THEIR MEALS IN THE CABOOSE.

A P. SO >> THAT'S CORRECT.

IF YOU'D COMH EARLIER, WE WOULD HAVE DONE EGGS AND BACON FOR YOU.N THE CABOOZE.

WOULD HAVEH, EXACTLY.

SO I MEAN THE IDEA IS, THEY LIVED IN THIS WOULD HAVE DONE EGGS AND BACON FOR YOU.

> Huell: YEAH.DAYS, WEEKS AT THE IDEA THEY LIVED IN THIS THING A TIME?

>> IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE PLACE?

D WHERE THE CATTLE HAD BEEN PICKES UP AND WHERE THE MARKET WAS, SO >> SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT BE ONBOARDD FOR AS MUCH AS A WEEK.

ONACE Huell: NOW THIS WAS WATER OR OIL?

WHERE THE >> THIS WOULD DEPEND.

AT THE PICKED UP.

>> THIS WA LOOKS OF THIS CAN, THIS WOULDS PROBABLY CARRY OIL, AND IT WOUL?

>> BE USED FOR THE POTENTIAL OF HO BOXES ON THE CARS, ON THE WHEELA OIL AND U JOURNALS WOULD GET TOO HOT SOMETIMES.SED POTENTIAL O Huell: HERE IS THEIR LITTLEF BE DINING ROOM RIGHT HERE.

THIS ISS WHERE THE JOURNALS WOULD THEIR SINK OVER HERE, WITH GET TOO HOT.

>> Huell: THIS IS THEIR LITTLE RUNNING WATER.

THIS IS GREAT.

R THEIR SINK OVER HERE WITH RUNNING YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER BEEN INWAT.

A CABOOSE BEFORE.HIS IS GREAT.

YOU >> WELL, HUELL, IT'S ALL THE COMFORTS OF HOME.

I'VE NEVE Huell: YEAH, IT REALLY IS.BEEN >> THIS IS LIKE AN EARLYOOZE BE.

RECREATIONAL VEHICLE ON RAILS.

HOME.

> THIS ISAT IT DIDN'T HAVE WAS AIR-CONDITIONING.

LIKE >> OH, YOU OPEN THE WINDOWS FOR THAT.

AN EARLY Huell: YEAH, SO IT WAS HOT.R >> THAT'S RIGHT.

VEHI Huell: AND IT WAS PROBABLY KINDT IT DIDN'T OF BUMPY AND, UH, I MEAN, YOU IT WAS AIR-CONDITIONING SO KNOW.

IT PROBABLY HAD A LOT OF-D YOU KNEW YOU WERE IN A CABOOSE BUMPY A WHEN YOU WERE IN THIS THING.

PRO >> THAT'S FOR SURE.

-- YOU KNEW Huell: SO HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD HAVE--1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

THEY COULD IN A CABOOZE.

>> THAT'S FOR SURE.

>> Huell: HOW MA HAVE HAD 6 OR 8 PEOPLE IN HERE.E >> NORMAL CREW WOULD CONTAIN AS ONE, T FIVE -- THEYWBOYS, AND THEN YOU'D HAVE A BREAKMAN AND WOU A CONDUCTOR IN THIS CAR, ANDD LIKE EIGHT.

>> WHEN THE TRAIN'S IN TRANSIT,ITO YOU'D SIMPLY SWAP OUT THE BUNKSR DEPENDING ON WHO GOT FIRST CALLE TR ON SLEEPING.A IS IN TRAN Huell: AND WHAT'S THIS UP HERE?T YOU WOULD SWAP THE >>OK AT THIS.

THEY'RE LITTLE, UH, LIKE, SECOND-FLOOR SEATS UP HERE?

LOOKEç AT THIS HERE.

>> YES, FOR A CABOOSE, WE WILL REFER TO THIS AS THE CUPOLA, AND LITTLE SECOND >> YES FORERE THE CONDUCTOR AND HIS BREAKMAN WOULD STAND BY.CAB T THEY WOULD LOCATE THEMSELVES SOS THAT THEY COULD LOOK DOWN THE AI TRAIN AND SPOT THOSE HOT BOXES, STAND SHOULD ANY WHEELS START SMOKING ON THE CARS.TRAIN SP Huell: SO THEY WOULD JUST, AS BO PART OF THEIR JOBS, JUST SIT UP SHOULD ANY THERE AND LOOK OUT THE WINDOWLS SMOKING.

DOWN--UP TOWARD THE LOCOMOTIVE, JOB JUST SIT UP THERE INTO THE TRAIN.AND LOOWN TH >> YES, AND THEN THEY HADE TOWE CERTAIN VALVES TO VERIFY THAT END THE THEIR AIR PRESSURE WAS UP ON THS AND AIR LINES, AND IF THEY DID HAVE TO STOP THE TRAINS, THEY WOULDVS TO WORK THAT VALVE TO EITHER SIGNA PRESSURE A IF THINEER OR PUT THE TRAINP.

INTO EMERGENCY.EY HADTO STOP TH Huell: SO THIS WAS NOT JUST ARAI LIVING CAR.

THIS WAS A WORKINGAL THE ENGINEER OR PUT THE TRAIN CAR AS WELL.

>> DEFINITELY.

Huell: I'VE NEVER THOUGHT OF IT >>Hu WAY BEFORE.GENCY.

>> DEFINITELY A WORKING CAR.OTH YES.

CAR AS >> Huell: WE ARE LEAVING THE YES.

>> Huell: T BEFORE.AND, UH, THAT WAS NEVE >> DEFINITELY A WARKIN A NICE LITTLE--NOW WHY DID YOUS.

>> Huell: WE'RE LEAVING THE CABOOZE THAT GO BACKWARDS?WAS A >> WELL, THIS IS A COMMON RAILROAD PRACTICE WHERE, AS YOUD CLIMB ONTO EQUIPMENT, YOU ALWAYS GO BACKWARDS.

>> FACE TOWARDS IT, AND AS YOUTH IS A CLIMB OFF, YOU LIKEWISE FACE CO P TOWARDS IT.RACTICE Huell: WHY IS THAT?

>> SO THAT YOU DON'T STUMBLE ON THE TIERS AND THESE STEPS ANDYO TOWA FALL FACE FORWARD.RDS IT.

Huell: SO RAILROAD PEOPLE, THEY.

>> SO GO--SAY THAT AGAIN.

DON'T FALL FACE FORWARD >> WHEN YOU CLIMB ONTO ANY PIEC.

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>> COME OFF, YOU REMAIN FACED WHEáA TOWARDS IT AND BACK OFF.U Huell: WOW.

WE'RE LEARNING A LOT ON THIS THING.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW -- CLIMB TOW OVER HERE, THIS IS A MODERN ONE YOU FACE IT OVER HERE.

HI, HOW YOU DOING?N YOU GET OUT, YOU STILL FACE IT.

>> HI.>> Huell: THISEç Huell: SO YOU HAVE DIFFERENTISA.

PEOPLE WORKING ON DIFFERENT H ENGINES, OR--OING?

SO >> YES, WE DO.

WE HAVE JESSE HA WORK TOMBRY UP IN THE CAB THIS TIME,?

AND I KNOW THAT HE'S WORKED ONY THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

AGAIN, IT'S A DIESEL.

WE LOCOMOTIVE.

TRULY DIESEL JESS W PIECTRIC, AS THE WHEELS ARE OF EQUIPMENT.

IT'S A POWERED BY ELECTRIC MOTORS UNDERNEATH, AND JESSE IS Eç FORMERLY WITH SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON.

MAYBE THAT'SV WHY HE'S TAKEN A LIKING FOR THIE LOCOMOTIVE.

IS Huell: SO THIS IS THE FIRSTY WI SOUTHERN DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE WE'VE SEEN.OR MAYBE THAT'S WHY HE TOOK A >> NOT NECESSARILY, HUELL.LIKINO Huell: NOT DOWN HERE-- THIS LOCE >> IN OUR DISPLAY, IT IS THE.Hu: ONLY ONE THAT WE DO HAVE.IS THE FI DIESEL YEAH.

>> BTU THIS ONE IS VERY UNIQUE BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE.

IT'S MOTIVE > THIS OUR DISPLAY.OCOMOTIVES O.

THIS ON THE SAME MAINFRAME.

THESE WEREE IT'S VERY UNIQUE TRIED, BUILT IN 1969 BY THE THE SIZE.

THERE IS TWO LOCAL MOTIVES IN UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD.

AND SAM.

THIS YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE ACTUALLY BUILT HAVE MORE WHEELS UNDER THEM THA9 BY THE A STANDARD DIESEL.

DIESELS OF TODAY WILL NORMALLY HAVE PER -- TRUCK 2 OR 3 AXLES.

THIS HASILR NOTICE 4 AXLES.

THERE Huell: ALL RIGHT, HE'S--YOU'VE A GOT HIM TO COME OUT OF THE CAB.S WE'LL BE OVER THERE IN JUST HA C MINUTE.

HOWDY.

HOW YOU DOING?

>> DOING FINE.OUT OF Huell: THIS IS YOUR BABY RIGHT HERE.OVERERE >> WELL, ONE OF THEM.

I ALSO JUST A MINUTE.

HO WORK ON THE 3450 UP THERE, BUT,W UH--MOST OF US WHO DO VOLUNTEER.

THIS IS YOUR BABY.

>> YES, I ALSO WORK EITHER ARE ASSIGNED TO WOR 3450 BUT MOST US A SPECIFIC LOCOMOTIVE, OR WE'VE ADOPTED A SPECIFIC LOCOMOTIVE.VE EITHER ASSIGNE BUT THEN AGAIN, A LOT OF US JUSO COME WHEREVER WORK IS A SPECIFIC LOCAL MOTIVE NECESSARY--ON A LOCOMOTIVE OR OD THE BUILDING OR JUST GENERAL LOT OF US CLEANUP.ORK AS Huell: ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE GUYY THAT'S GOT RAILROADIN' IN YOURO.

HOSE GUYS TYOU A FRUSTRATED> AR TRAIN MAN?T'S GOT RAI >> I CERTAINLY AM.

Y A Huell: BUT YOU'VE WORKED FOR EDISON ALL YOUR LIFE.

FRUSTRATE MAN.

>> WELL, NOW--WELL, I WORKED FOY EDISON FOR 23 YEARS, AND WHEN IO RETIRED, I HAD A PASSION FOR FO EDISON ALL YOUR LIFE.

>> MODEL RAILROADING, AND THEN I FD WHE GRADUATED INTO THE REAL THINGNEA HERE.

PASSION FOR MODEL Huell: WOW.ROADING AND >> THE SOCIETY HAS THIS MUSEUM, GRADUATED INTO THE REAL THING HERE.

>> AND I'M NEARBY.

I LIVE NEARBY, .

> SO I SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE.

T Huell: WELL, YOU LOOK THE PART.S >> THANK YOU.THIS M Huell: YOUR NAME AGAIN IS...USEA >> JESSE TOMBRY.R B Huell: NICE TO MEET YOU, SIR.Eç NOW THIS IS THE--THIS IS WHAT WE Huell: WELL YOU LOOK THE PART.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Huell WANTED TO SEE.

I MEAN, THEY'RER.

NOWTHISISWHAT WE W'S THE GUY N .

RIGHT HERE WHO--WHO'S GOT THEAND THEY'RE ALL NICE.

AND HERE'S THE GUY ANSWERS TO ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS.

RIGHT HERE WHO LET'S STAND OUT IN FRONT OF THI THING.

YOUR NAME IS... ALLUR QUESTION >> PAUL GUERCIO.T'S STAND OUT Huell: OK. NOW THIS HAS THE IN THING.

YOU'RE DISTINCTION OF WHAT?

NAME.

>> P >> WELL, IT'S THE LARGEST STEAM LOCOMOTIVE EVER BUILT FOR THE T ON ON PACIFIC.THE DES >uell: WOW.

>> ALSO OF ANY STEAM LOCOMOTIVE- BUILT IN THE UNITED STATES.

Huell: WHAT WAS IT CALLED?

>> BIG BOY.

Huell: BIG BOY.

AND GIVE US THE DIMENSIONS ON THIS THING, STINK.

BECAUSE IT IS A HUGE LOCOMOTIVEE LARGEST LOCAL MOTIVE.

>> WELL, IT'S ABOUT 132 FEET IG BOY.

LONG, WEIGHS ABOUT 600 TONS, AN GIVE US THE DIMENSIONS.

>> ABOUT 132 FEET 16 FEET HIGH, 11 FEET WIDE.ND WEIGHS Huell: WOW.

AND I'M SURE WHEN IT WAS MOVING DOWN THE TRACKS, YOU.

16 FEET KNEW IT WAS COMING.

AND >> YOU KNEW IT WAS MOVING.

ITE.

WOULD DO ABOUT 80 MILES AN HOURI IF THEY REALLY WANTED IT TO.

IT NOT PULLING A HEAVY TRAIN, BUT-N Huell: WITH STEAM COMING OUTRAC YOU KNEW THE--WITH STEAM COMING OUT THE .

>> YOU D TOP?ID.

Huell >> SURE.

TH ST Huell: HOW MANY OF THESE--HOWCOE > SURE STEAM.

THINGS WERE MADE??

>> Hu >> THEY BUILT 25 OF THEM.

THEY THINGS W BUILT 20 IN 1941 AND 4 MORE INER THEY BUILT 1944-45.25 OF THEM.

20 Huell: WOW.

LOOK AT THE SIZE OFN 1941 AND FOUR FOR IN THESE WHEELS.

>> Huell: >> 68 INCH.

WOW, LOOK AT THE SIZ Huell: THIS IS A HUGE--E EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS THING.

OF.

>> 68 INCH.

>> Huell IT'S ALMOST AS TALL AS A PERSONS A HUGE, EVERYTHING ABOUT T >> ALMOST.NG IT'S Huell: NOW HAVE YOU EVER SEENSTL ONE OF THESE THINGS MOVING AND PERSON.

>> ALMOST.

>> Huell: NOW HAVE YO SPITTING FIRE AND SMOKE AND--EEY OF THESE THINGS M >> ONLY ON VIDEOTAPES.

THE LAST TIME THIS RAN WAS 1959.

THAT'S .

>> WHEN THE LAST OF THE BIG BOYS RAN, AND THERE'S NONE OF THEM TAPE PRESERVED THAT ARE IN WORKINGLAN CONDITION.

THERE'S 8 OF THEM WA 1959 A PRESERVED IN MUSEUMS.ND OF THEM Huell: SO THERE ARE SOME OFP THESE AROUND.

YOU GOT THE BEST T ONE?

>> WE GOT THE BEST ONE.

THE ONE IN OMAHA IS PRETTY GOOD.

Huell: HOW DO CLAIM--WHY DO YOUK CLAIM THIS ONE'S THE BEST ONE?T.

>> WE G >> BECAUSE IT LIVES IN SUNNYTHE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND DOESN'TD GET RAINED ON VERY OFTEN.

YOU CE Huell: AH, I GOT YOU.

LOOK AT T >> IT LIVES I THIS UP HERE, THE--WHAT ARECALI RAINED THOSE?

RIVETS?

OFTEN.

>> Hu >> MOST OF THESE--ell:Eç Huell: WHAT ARE THOSE LITTLE THINGS?

I GOT YOLOOK W> MOST OF THESE ARE WHAT ARE CALLED STAYBOLTS.

AT THIS PART OF THE BOILER, THIS BIG, ROUND ?

>> AT CYLINDRICAL BOILER IS FULL OF PART WATER AND STEAM UNDER PRESSURE.

THIS AND AT THIS POINT, THERE'S ALSO AN INTERNAL PART OF THE FIREER D STEAM UNDER BOX, SO IT'S A DOUBLE WALL.

AND AT THIS P CONSTRUCTION, AND THE PRESSURE'T FIRE BOX.

FORCE THOSE 2 PARTS OF THE WALL APART.

SO EVERYSO IT'S A 4 INCHES, THERE'S A BOLT THAT'S CONSTRUCTION AND T RYINGTO FORCE THESE APART.ES AND THAT HOLDS THE 2 PIECES TOGETHER TO KEEP IT FROM EXPLODING.

A BOLT AND Huell: THIS WAS A WORK OF ART, PIECES JUST TO MAKE THIS DARN THING.

T FROM >> WELL, IT SURE WAS.

THIS WAS THE DAY WHEN MACHINISTS ANDING.

>> Huell: THIS BOILERMAKERS--THAT'S WHERE THEYT JU GOT THEIR NAME, PUTTING TOGETHE.

BOILERS.

AND IT'S BIG, HEAVY YEN WORK.

THE MACHI Huell: NOW, I SEE YOU'VE GOTBOLT STEPS HERE.

CAN WE GO INSIDE AN G LOOK AT THE--TAME.

>> >> SURE CAN.Huell: Huell: LOOK IN THE CAB?

OH, GOT STEPS.

CAN WE GO INSIDE LOOK.

HERE'S A PICTURE OF IT SU.

>> Hu RIGHT HERE.

YOU--IS THIS--THIS CAB.

OH LOOK, HERE'S A PICTUR IS THIS ONE.E OF RIGHT H >> THAT'S THIS ONE.

THIS -- Huell: THE 4014.

AND LOOK AT JUST THIS O THE--I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ITN THAT'S THIS 1.

WOULD BE VERY POLITICALLY CORRECT THESE DAYS, SPOUTING OUT ALL THAT SMOKE.

>> WELL, PROBABLY NOT, BUT TH.

I'M NOT SURE I THAT'S WHAT THEY DO WHEN THEYT WANT TO TAKE PICTURES AND MAKE A BIG SHOW.

NORMALLY, IT DOESN'T PUT OUT ANYWHERE NEAR THAT MUCHY SMOKE.

CORRECT NG Huell: OH, OK.

SO THEY CAN THATS >CTUALLY GOOSE IT, AND GET IT.

NORMALLY IT GOING A LITTLE MORE.

ALL RIGHT.S NOT PUT LET'S GO INSIDE.OUHAT MUCH.

>> Huell: SO THEY CAN GOOS T AND GET IT GOING A LITTLE MORE.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO INSIDE.

WE'RE GOING IN THE BIG BOY.

>> Huell: WE'RE GOING IN THE BIG BOY.

BOY, THIS IS AMAZING.

LOOK AT >> Hu THIS CAB.

LOOK AT ALL--WHAT IS IS AMAZ LOOKTHIS STUFF?

AT >> WELL, IT'S ALL THE CONTROLSWS THEY NEEDED TO MAKE IT GO.

IT AU >> IT LIKE A LOT, BUT ACTUALLY,?

AFTER YOU GET TO KNOW IT THET A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT OFEDT TIME, IT DOESN'T TAKE TOO LONG L TO LEARN IT.IKE BUT Huell: NOW WOULD THE ENGINEER A IBIT OF TIME, IT VER HERE, ANDA THIS IS THE MAIN THROTTLE RIGHT IT.E?

>> THIS IS WHERE THE ENGINEER WD SITS, AND THE ENGINEER CONTROLS THE TRAIN.

THIS IS THE THROTTLES [METAL GROANS]IS THE MAIN >> THIS IS--ALL THE WAY BACK IS FULL SPEED AHEAD.E.

>> THIS I Huell: AND WHAT IS THIS DOWNS T HERE?

THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BACS FULL SPEED AHEAD.

>>ell: T. >> THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WHAT?

>HAT'S THE BRAKE.

SO WHEN YOU GET GOING 80 MILES AN HOUR, I YOU'VE GOT TO STOP.T.

THAT'S THES THAT STILL MOVE?

ISV >> THAT'S THE BRAKE.

THAT'LLE I BRAKE THE WHOLE TRAIN.

AND THEN8 THIS IS THE BRAKE JUST FOR THE ENGINE.

Huell: AND WHAT IS THIS OVER HERE?

MIAN HOUR >> THIS IS THE REVERSE GEAR, AN.

>> Huell: THIS CONTROLS WHETHER IT GOES T FORWARD OR BACKWARD.

IT ALSO THS CONTROLS SOMETHING THEY CALL REE THISF, WHICH IS, UH, CONTROLSG CONTROLS WHETHER THE EFFICIENCY OF HOW THEY USE THE STEAM.

FORWARD Huell: BOY, THIS IS AN AMAZING- CONTROLS THE CUT LOOKING OVER HERE AT ALL OFICH THIS.

AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HOT IN HERE, WOULDN'T IT?

THE EFFICIEN >> IT WOULD BE PRETTY HOT IN >> Huell: AND ITMAYBE.

Huell: AND THE REASON IT WOULD .

HAVE BEEN HOT WAS BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THERE.

YES° THAT'S WHAT WE JUST LOOKED AT e FROM THE OUTSIDE.

BECAUSE OF >> THAT'S WHERE YOU MAKE THE STEAM.

AND, UH, IF THERE'SN THET A LOAD IN COAL IN THERE, AND JU T IT'S BURNING, THAT WOULD BETHE .

BRIGHT YELLOW AND REAL HOT.

IF D Huell: YEAH, ALL RIGHT.

NOW IT'S NDNG THATUS TO DO OUR LITTLE TRICK HERE.

COME OVER AND WOULD BE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO EVERYBODY.

>> >> HI, HUELL.

RICK BROWN.

I ALST WORK WITH PAUL ON THE--E TRICK R Huell: YOU'RE ONE OF THENTRO VOLUNTEERS HERE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Huell: AND YOU HAVE VOLUNTEERED >: YOU'REHING THAT HAPPENS WHEN SCHOOLCHILDREN ARE VISITIN VOLUNTEERS HERE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Huel THE PLACE HERE.

WHAT HAPPENS?l D >> WELL, USUALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE DEMONSTRATE HOW BIG THE FIRE VISITING.

WHAT HAPPENS BOX IS.

IT'S VERY UNIQUE AS FAR HOW AS ITS SIZE, SO WHAT WE DO IS, .

WE ALLOW ONE OF US TO GOIT'S VES INSIDE AND SHOW THEM HOW BIG ITR SIZE.

WHAT IS.WE DO WE Huell: SO YOU LET ONE OF THE KIDS GO IN THERE.

ONE US >> THAT'S CORRECT.

Huell: ONE KID GETS TO GO IN.

GO >> ONE CHOICE KID, THAT'S > Huell.

Huell: TODAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE KID.

ONE KID >> I AM, YES.

IN Huell: I WAS GOING TO BE THETH KID, BUT TRUTH IN ADVERTISINGRI.

TO BE TAT I DON'T THINK I CANYY GET IN THERE.

I MEAN, IT'S--YOU.

>> Huell: IWASGOING T GOTTA BE PRETTY AGILE TO GETKIDT THROUGH THAT HOLE THERE.HINK I H >> YEAH, IT'S A PRETTY SMALL HOLE.OTTOBEAG Huell: ALL RIGHT, HERE YOU GO.

LET'S HEAD ON IN THERE.

BOY, A THIS IS-- [HUELL LAUGHS] GILE TO GET THROUGH THIS.

>> YES.

>> Huell: BOY THIS IS.

OK, HE'S INSIDE THERE.

THAT IS A HUGE AREA.

HOW MUCH COAL WOULD THAT HOLD?

>> WELL, IT WOULD HOLD A LAYER ABOUT 4 INCHES THICK.

AND THEY INSIDETHAT BURNED IT AT THE RATE OF ABOUT AREA.

HOW MANY 28 TONS IN 2 HOURS.

THEY WOULDL.

>> HOLD 28 TONS BACK HERE IN THE AT TINDER, AND IT WOULD GET, UH-- .

IT HOLD 28 THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC AUGUR THAT STOKES IT.

AND THEY'D BURNTHE - THERE THROUGH THE 28 TONS IN ABOUTUTOC 2 HOURS.

Huell: NOW ARE YOU ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT, RICK?

>> I'M AT THE EDGE OF THE FIRE BOX, BUT THERE'S STILL ABOUT AG.

>> ANOTHER 10 FEET OR SO BEFORE I BOX GET TO THE--TO THE BACK WALL.

BT STILL Huell: BOY, THAT'S A BIG--ER TEN FEET OR SO BEFORE I GET >> THAT'S A BIG FIRE BOX.

THAT'.

> ONE OF THE BIGGEST EVER MADE.Hu --.

>> Huell: ARE YOU GETTING A CLAUSTROPHOBIC BACK THERE?

FIRE.

ONE OF THE >> NO, SO FAR, SO GOOD.

BIGGEST EVER MADE.

>> [HUELL LAUGHS] Huell: WOW.

Hu >> WE HAD ABOUT 28 SCHOOL KIDS IN THERE ONE TIME, SO IT'SNG PLENTY BIG.

TROPHOBIC?

SO FAR SO GOODOU COME TO THIS PLACE, AND YOU'RE A SCHOOL KID, WE HAD AB OR EVEN A BIG KID, YOU MIGHT BE IN ABLE TO GET INTO THE FIRE BOX.TN >> OH, SURE.

BIG KIDS GET IN H THERE ALL THE TIME.ell: IN THE FIRE BOX.ETO GET ICK.

>> [HUELL LAUGHS] SURE BIG KIDS NOW COME ON BACK OUT.

YOU'VE HAD THERE ALL THE TIME.

>> Huell: ENOUGH FUN IN THERE.

STEVE, WHOE ON BACK OUT.

YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH IS ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE FU SOCIETY HERE, IS STANDING HERER.

STEVE, WH WITH--WHAT YOU GOT HERE, STEVE?F >> IT'S A KEROSENE RAILROADY HE ST LANTERN THAT SIGNAL PEOPLE IN H OT HERE.

>> RAILROAD YARDS USED TO USE TO IS BASICALLY STO--YOU KNOW, TELL A PE TRAINS WHEN TO STOP AND WHEN TOD MOVE, BECAUSE IN THESE OLD STEA BASICALLY TELL TRAINS WHEN TO ST STEAM ENGINES, YOU DIDN'T HAVEPA A LOT OF VISIBILITY STRAIGHT ON.

SO AT NIGHT, WHEN YOU LIT THIS,S YOU WOULD BASICALLY--YOU'LLNES E SWING IT WAY LIKE THIS TO TELLA OF VISIBILITY.

NIGHT, YOU STOP.

AND IF YOU WOULD SWING AWAY WANTED THEM TO MOVE FORWARD,E TS TO TEL YOU'D, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY MOVE.

AND IF YOU IT THIS WAY.

WANTE Huell: SO THERE WAS A--THERE WA A WAY OF DOING IT.

IT--THERE YOU WOULD BASIC WAS--IT HAD ITS OWN LANGUAGE,AL.

>> Hu F DOING IT.

OF DOING THINGS.OTH >> MM-HMM.

NOWADAYS, CONDUCTORS.

> USE, LIKE, FLASHLIGHTS OR RADIO.

YEAH TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN THE LOCOMOTIVE, BUT BACK IN THE OLD NOW-A-DAYS COND FLASH LEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEYOL HAD TO USE FLAGS OR HAND SIGNALO OR, AT NIGHT, LANTERNS.

MOTIVE.

BUT BACK IN THE DAYS THEY USED TO Huell: YOU'RE GIVING A TOUR DOWG HERE.SR HAND SIGNAL >> HELLO THERE.S O Huell: IS HE A PRETTY GOOD TOUR AT GUIDE?

>> EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT.

Huell: NOW WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING HERE?

YOU JUST HAPPEN TO.

SHOW UP?> Huell: >> ACTUALLY, I KNEW IT WAS THEGN SECOND SUNDAY OF THE MONTH, ANDA I DECIDED TO COME BY AND TAKEURE > IT WITH THE KIDS.

Huell: DID YOU HAVE ANY IDEA THY WHAT YOU WERE GETTING INTO?MONT >> I KNEW THE BIG BOY WAS HERE.T >> ll: AH.

OK, SO EVERYBODYOOK .

WANTS TO SEE THE BIG BOY.ID YOUY >> IT'S A DRAWING CARD, BIG DRAWING CARD FOR US HERE, YEAH.

INTO.

Huell: BUT NOW HE'S KIND OF I PARTIAL TO THIS ONE OVER HERE, THE TOO.

THIS IS HIS ENGINE OVERB B HERE.

>> HERE.

Huell: HISOVER HERE.IKES THAT ONE.O Huell: SO YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT ABOUT THAT BEFORE YOUSNGI.

LEAVE TODAY, TOO.

Y'ALL HAVING A GOOD TIME?ONE.

Huell >> YES.

: YOGOING TO Huell: OK, GOOD.

A LOT A >> THIS IS THE MAIN THING THATT WE DO HERE, IS TO TRY TO GET TH.

Y'ALL YOUNG PEOPLE, IN PARTICULAR,HAV.

>> YES.

> INTERESTED IN THE HISTORY OF TH RAILROADS--WHAT THE RAILROADS T. WE WERE, WHAT THE LOCOMOTIVES DID, RAILROAD WHAT IT MEANS TO THE GROWTH OFW WERE WHAT THE COUNTRY, AS WELL AS TOHE LOC CALIFORNIA.AL MO DID, Huell: TOO BAD THEY CAN'T SEE I GROWTH THE STEAM COMING OUT OF THESE TY THINGS.A TO >> I KNOW.

CALIFORNIA.

> Huell: BE NICE, BUT IT'S-- Huell: BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT TOO EEPTIVATED KIDS IN THE OLD DAYS THE STEAM.

>> THAT WOULD BE NICE.

>> WASN'T IT?

HEARING THE WHISTLE AND SEEING THE STEAM COMING OUT THAT'S WHAT OF THE LOCOMOTIVES.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THE RUMBLE AND THE ROAR AND THE SIZE OF THIS CAPTIVATED KIDS.

SEEING THE STEAM AND HEARING THE WHIS ABSOLUTELYTHEWUMBLE LES AN HOU.

IS JUST CAPTIVATING AND ROAR AND THE SIZE OF THIS THING INTERESTING-- MOVING Huell: WELL, IT WOULD HAVELES AN PROBABLY MADE A LOT OF NOISEHOUR CAPTIVATING AND INTERESTING.

>> Huel JUST STANDING STILL.l: WOULD HA PROBABLY MADE A LO >> THEY BREATHE.

THESET JUST LOCOMOTIVES THAT WERE OPERATEDT.

>> BY STEAM ACTUALLY HAD THEIR OWN THESE PERSONALITIES, THEY SAY.

THE MOTIVES ENGINEERS TELL ME THAT.

THEY TH OPERATED BY STEAM THEY HAD THEIR ACTUALLY BREATHE.

YOU HAVE THE STEAM GOING IN AND OUT.

AND THE AIR PUMPS ARE RUNNING, AND-- Huell: WOW.

OWN PER THE ENGINEERSING, YOU KNOW?S Huell, laughing: WOW.

TOLD ME T. >> AND ALWAYS SOUNDS LIKE IT'STE HA READY TO GO.

Huell: YEAH.OWN PERSONAL >> AND WHEN THEY OPEN THEITIES THROTTLE, AND YOU GET THAT CHUFF WHE ALWAYS SOUNDING LIKE IT'S IT READY TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE.

THERE'S NO OTHERU THAT KHUF KHUF THERE IS NO MACHINE LIKE IT.LIKE THIS AN Huell: WELL, YOU'RE GETTING MESE EXCITED JUST HEARING HIM TALKERO ABOUT IT.

Y'ALL STILL GOT MORE IT.

>> Huell: OF THE TOUR TO GO.

YOU ALL AREOD TALK...UST HEARING H >> FROM ORANGE COUNTY.

AN Huell: OH, GREAT.

WELL, WELCOMEL TO POMONA.L GOT MORE TO >> THANK YOU.

GO.

Huell: HAVE A GREAT TIME.

ENJOY >>RANGE COUNTY.

>> THE TOUR.

WE'VE STILL GOT-- WEL HAVE HOWDY.

HOW YOU DOING?

Y'ALL JUS.

HANGING OUT?THE TOUR.

W >> HANGING OUT.E'VE STI Huell: ARE YOU ALL REGULARS HOW JUST?

HANGING >> NO, BUT WE'RE GOING TO START.

>> BEING, 'CAUSE NOW IT'S EVERYH SECOND SUNDAY OF THE MONTH.

ARE YOU REGU Huell: YEAH.

HOW DID YOU FIND.

>> N OUT ABOUT IT BEING OPEN?

BUT WEG TO >> WELL, HE--WE GET BOOKS, TRAI.

BECAUSE IT'S EVERY SEC BOOKS.

AND HE ENJOYS TRAINS.AY .

>> Huell Huell: YOU'RE A TRAIN--YOU'REDID YOU F THE TRAIN BUFF.

WHAT GOT YOU SO >> WE GET TRAIN BOOKS.

>> Huell: EXCITED ABOUT THE TRAINS?

YOU'R BUFF.

>> Huell: >> UM, I LIKE THEM.

OT YOU SO EXCITED Huell: YEAH.

ABOUT THE TRAINS?

>> ESPECIALLY THIS ONE, THE>> BIG BOY.

WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD I LIKE TH TO SEEING THIS ONE.

REALLY, IT', SOMETHING.

ESP THE BI Huell: WELL, GOOD.

YOU KNOW OY HIS ONE.

MIGHT BE ABLE, IF HE'SA IT'S REALLY SO GOOD, MAYBE HE COULD GO IN THEMU KNOW FIRE BOX, TOO., IF HE'S GOOD, >> GOOD POSSIBILITY, HUELL.

MAYE Huell: YEAH.

BOY, WE GOT CAN GE A SURPRISE FOR YOU IN THERE.IRE.

>> THEY'RE GOING TO LET YOU CLIMB ALL THE WAY INSIDE HERE.

THINKS.

>> Huell: WE'VE GOT A SURPRISE FOR YOU.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT?

GOINO LET YOU CLIMB YEAH, HE WILL.

THE >> OH, YEAH.DE THERE.

DO YOU THINKFUN.

>> THANK YOU.

YOU MA Huell: NICE TO MEET YOU.

COMEAT.

ON, WE GOT TO FINISH UP.

WE'REY.

>> H RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

WE STILLel.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Huell: GOT 2 MORE TO LOOK AT.

THIS ISV FINISH UP.

WE'RE RUNNING OUT O THE 9000.. WE'VE STILL GOT TWO MORE >> YES, THIS LOCOMOTIVE WASTO AT.

CONSTRUCTED IN 1927.

THE UNION IS THE 9,000.

>> PACIFIC HAD A WHOLE SERIES OF TS THESE.

THIS IS THE PROTOTYPE, LOCAL THE FIRST ONE IN THE 9000 SERIES.

THE UNIQUE FACTOR ON MO CONSTRUCTED THIS ONE, HUELL, IS THAT IT'S IN 1957 ALL A RIGID FRAME LOCOMOTIVE.

UNIQUE FACTOR O IT IS THE LARGEST RIGID FRAMEIS IS LOCOMOTIVE IN THE WORLD, VERSUS.

IT'S THE BIG BOY WHICH IS ARTICULATED.

THAT IS, THE WHEELT CAN BEND IN THE MIDDLE.

LOCAL MOTIVE VERSU Huell: WOW, THAT'S SUCH BOY BENDNG--THAT BIG BOY IS SO LONG IN THE MIDDLE.

>> Hu COMPARED TO THESE OTHERS.

IS BO, THAT'S A LONG -- THAT WHY THEY CALLED IT THE BIG BOY, BECAUSE OF ITS LENGTH?IG B.

IS >> YES, IT GOT ITS NAME IN ANWHA INTERESTING WAY.

WHEN IT WASLLE BEING MANUFACTURED, THESE WERE S I ALL LAID OUT IN A SHOP ON THE GN EAST COAST, AND ONE OF THEAME I IN EMPLOYEES SAID, "BOY, LOOK ATST.

THAT BIG BOY."

IT [HUELL LAUGHS] >> THE NAME STUCK AFTER THAT.

WAS BEING MANUF Huell: ALL RIGHT, WE'VE SEEN THE BIG BOYS.

NOW WE'RE KIND OF ENDING UP WITH THE LITTLE BOYS THAT BIG BOY, THE HERE.

STUCK.

>> YES, THESE ARE INDUSTRIAL >> STYLE LOCOMOTIVES.

THE FIRST ON UP IS LOOKING A LITTLE WORSE FOR WL THE WEAR RIGHT NOW.

WE DO PLANE.

YES TO START WORKING ON IT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THIS ORIGINALLY AR STYLE.

WE DO PL OPERATED DOWN IN THE LOS ANGELEO HARBOR ON A LINE CALLED THEN TIN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THIS OUTER HARBOR TERMINAL RAILWAY.O AN Huell: SO THIS WOULD BE PULLING FREIGHT?

HARB >> PRIMARILY, IN THIS CASE, IT WAS OIL CARS FOR UNION OILLLED THE HARBOR.

>> Huell: COMPANY DOWN NEAR WILMINGTON ANO THIS WOULD PULL FRE SAN PEDRO.IGH> FOR Huell: WOW.

"OUTER HARBOR TERMINAL RAILROAD COMPANY."

AND DOWN THEN HERE THE LITTLEST ONE DOWN HERE.

>> WELL, IT'S ALSO THE FIRST.

THIS ONE ARRIVED ONSITE HERE AT THE L.A. COUNTY FAIRPLEX INNG 1954.

ALSO LOOKING A LITTLE AND PEDRO.

THIS ONE WORSE FOR WEAR, BUT THIS IS A LUMBER OR LOGGING LOCOMOTIVE.5 4.

THIS Huell: NOW WAIT A MINUTE.

IT'SIL GOT "SUNKIST" ON THE SIDE OF IT.

LOCAL MOTIVE.

Huell:'S CORRECT.

IT WAS DONATED BY THE SUNKISTWAIT A MIS CORPORATION Huell: AH.

>> THROUGH A BRANCH KNOWN AS THT FRUIT GROWERS' SUPPLY COMPANY.

.

>> AND THIS WAS A COMPANY THAT ITDD BUILT THE BOXES THAT ORANGES BU SUNKIST USED TO BE PUT INTO FOR SHIPPIN THAT PURPOSES.

BUILT Huell: AH.

AND WHAT DID YOU SAYT RAN USED TOED FOR ORIGINALLY?

>> WELL, THIS WOULD BETO.

>> INDUSTRIAL, PRIMARILY UP IN THET LOGGING AREAS OF CALIFORNIA.

AY WAS THIS WORKED OUT OF HILT, USED F ORIGINALL CALIFORNIA FOR MANY YEARS.

IT'S> A GEARED LOCOMOTIVE CALLED WOULL .

TH A CLIMAX.IKED OUT OF HILT Huell: THAT'S IT.

THAT'S BEENFO.

CALLEDDLOCAL MOTIVE F THIS PLACE AGAIN IS THE... >> SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CHAPTER, RAILWAY AND LOCOMOTIVE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THE TRAIN >> Huell: DISPLAY AT THE L.A. COUNTY IT T FAIRPLEX.

O TOU Huell: BOY, THAT'S A MOUTHFUL.R.

WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE TELEPHONT NUMBER ON THE SCREEN.

THE THE IMPORTANT INFORMATION IS, IS CO. >> Huell: THAT THIS IS FREE OF CHARGE.BOY THAT'S IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

YOUUL.

THE IMPORTANT IN JUST COME TO GATE ONE HERE ATFO.

FAIRPLEX.

TELL THEM YOU'RE HERE O TO VISIT THE TRAIN MUSEUM, AND TO GATE ONE, IT'S OPEN THE SECOND WEEKEND--E HERE TO VI SATURDAY AND SUNDAY--OF EVERY THE TRAIN MUSEUM AND MONTH.NED THE THAT'S CORRECT, HUELL, EXCEPT FOR ONE DAY, AND THAT'S MOTHER'S DAY.

THAT'S A SACRED HOLIDAY, YOU KNOW, SO MOST WIVES DON'T-- OF EV Huell, laughing: MOTHER'S DAY?H OK. WELL, IT'S BEEN NICE MEETING .

>> YES, EXCE YOU ALL.

WE'VE GOT OUR REGULARS HERE.

WE'VE GOT THE TOURIST WHO DAY.

>> Huell: OK JUST KIND OF DROPPED IN TODAYE'R WE' GOT THERE HERE.

ZACHARY,E.

TOURIST YOU'RE GETTING READY TO GOKIND F INSIDE THE FIRE BOX.

THIS IS IN WERE N-ZACHARY Y GOING TO BE AN EXPERIENCE, I READY T PROMISE YOU, YOU'RE NOT GOING TE OX.IS GOING TO BE AN E OF COAL.

EXPERIENCE I YOU CAN TAKE IT IN THERE AND GE IS AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD HAVE G BEEN LIKE IN THERE.

IT'S A REALR CAN GET THAT PIECE OF BIG FIRE BOX.

YOU'RE GOING TO BD RIGHT ON THE INSIDE OF THIS GET AN I IT'S GOINGRE'S REALLY--EVEN TO BE LIKE.

THOUGH THIS IS KIND OF A STATICE RIGHT DISPLAY, THERE'S STILL A LOT TO.

EVEN THOUGH THIS IS SEE AND FEEL AND TOUCH AND HEAR DISPLAY, THERE IS STILL A O SEE AND.

LOT HEARHAT'S CORRECT, HUELL.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S WHAT WE COULD CALL .

A DEAD DISPLAY, IT HAS A LOT OF >> VIBRANT LIFE TO IT, ESPECIALLY .

EVEN THOUGH I FOR PEOPLE THAT, QUITE OFTEN,WHA GREW UP IN A TIME WHEN MOST OFDI THESE LOCOMOTIVES DID NOTGOT A L OPERATE.IFE TIT E Huell: YEAH, IT'S A LEARNINGALLO EXPERIENCE FOR ALL OF US.

UP WH F> VERY MUCH SO.

Huell: WELL, THANK YOU ALL VERYO MUCH.

WE'VE HAD A WONDERFUL TIME OPERATES.

>> Hue EXPERIENCE FORGHLY RECOMMENDT'SA ALL THIS PLACE.

IT'S A WONDERFUL VERY MUCH SO.

>> PLACE FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY TO D VISIT, AND IT'S FREE OF CHARGE..

IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE FO COME OUT AND ENJOY THESEHOLE FA WONDERFUL, OLD--I WAS GOING TOF COME OUT AND ENJOY THESE CALL THEM RELICS.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY RELICS THOUGH, ARE THEY?I >> VINTAGE LOCOMOTIVES.

WAS GOI TO Huell: VINTAGE LOCOMOTIVES, LIKL THE BIG BOY RIGHT HERE.

THEM RELICS --.

>> GOOD-BYE, EVERYBODY.

WAVE GOOD-BYE.

VI WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF FUNMOTIVE.

>> OUT HERE AT THE FAIRPLEX.ell: V MOTIVES LIKE THE BIG [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY BOI KCET PUBLIC TELEVISION HERE.

AND FRIENDS OF NCI].

E'REG A LOT OF NCI].

Huell: THERE HE GOES.

HERE AT THE FAIRPL [LAUGHTER]EX.

HA!

NOW THAT'S AN EXPERIENCE FOR >> THERE HE GOES.

NOW A KID.

YOUR SON WILL ALWAYS THAT'S AN EXPERIENCE REMEMBER THIS.

>> OH, YES.

HE ENJOYS TRAINS.

F KID.

THIS IS REALLY GREAT.

IT'S WILL ALWAYS A GOOD DAY TO COME OUT.. >> OH YEAH, HE ENJOYS TR Huell: LET IT GO.IT'S A GOOD [STEAM WHISTLE BLOWING] DAY TO COME OUT.

>> Huell: [CAPTIONED BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE --www.ncicap.org--] LET IT GO!

[ >> VISITING WITH HUELL HOWSER IS MADE POSSIBLE THROUGHSTLE BL.

A GENEROUS GRANT FROM...

VISITING WITH HUELL HOWSE R HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBL E BY A GENEROUS GRANT FROM THE RALPH M. PARSON'S FOUNDATION.