[♪♪] GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO KENTUCKY TONIGHT, I'M RENEE SHAW.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

TONIGHT, WE’RE PREVIEWING SATURDAY’S FANCY FARM PICNIC IN WESTERN KENTUCKY — WHICH YOU’LL SEE LIVE HERE ON KET — AND DISCUSSING KENTUCKY POLITICS.

WE’RE ABOUT 100 DAYS AWAY FROM THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, AND YOU’LL SEE A FULL ROSTER OF CANDIDATES SPEAKING SATURDAY — INCLUDING GOVERNOR ANDY BESHEAR AND HIS OPPONENT, ATTORNEY GENERAL DANIEL CAMERON.

IT WILL BE GOVERNOR BESHEAR’S FIRST APPEARANCE AT FANCY FARM SINCE BECOMING GOVERNOR.

WE’LL TALK ABOUT THE GOVERNOR’S RACE AND THE DOWNBALLOT RACES, WITH OUR GUESTS IN LEXINGTON.

IRIS WILBUR GLICK, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST AND PRINCIPAL AT MCCARTHY STRATEGIC SOLUTIONS LLC; WILL CARLE, DEMOCRATIC CONSULTANT AND PRESIDENT OF OPINE STRATEGIES; JULIA BRIGHT CRIGLER, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST AND FOUNDER AT BRIGHT STRATEGIES LLC; AND MORGAN EAVES, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST AND EDUCATION CONSULTANT.

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WELCOME TO YOU ALL IT'S GOOD TO HAVE EVERYONE IN THE STUDIO, SOMETIMES ARE YOU ON SKYPE SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU IN ONE ROOM.

BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT FANCY FARM WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT MINORITY LEADER MITCH McCONNELL WHO ACCORDING TO THE MOST RECENT FANCY FARM POLITICAL SPEAKING ROSTER WAS PENDING.

HE AND RAND PAUL.

IS THAT STILL THE CASE, IRIS?

AND WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT HOW THE REPUBLICAN LEADER IS FARING HEALTH WISE.

>> SURE.

I BELIEVE SENATOR PAUL'S OFFICE CONFIRMED THAT THE SENATOR IS UNABLE TO JOIN ON SATURDAY.

THAT'S OBVIOUSLY DISAPPOINTING.

BUT IT IS A FULL AUGUST RECESS SCHEDULE FOR A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS.

THEY ARE TRYING TO BE EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME.

REGARDING THE LEADER IT IS NOT UNUSUAL THAT THEY ANNOUNCE LAST-MINUTE OR IN THE MOMENT OF.

THEY ARE ASSESSING AND TRYING TO MAKE THE SCHEDULE WORK.

BUT LOOKING FORWARD, I HOPE HE IS GOING TO BE THERE.

I'M HOPING THAT HE CAN MAKE IT AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM THERE.

REGARDING HIS HEALTH, HE HAS A FULL SCHEDULE AHEAD.

SO BUSINESS AS USUAL.

>> Renee: YES.

JULIA THERE HAVE BEEN CALLS OVER THE WEEKEND, FACE THE NATION NIKKI HALEY WAS SAYING IT'S TIME FOR THE LEADER TO MOVE ON AND PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HE SHOULD NOT REMAIN AS SENATE REPUBLICAN LEADER.

WHAT SAY YOU?

AND DO YOU HAVE INTEL ON HOW LONG HE IS GOING TO STAY IN THE LEADERSHIP POSITION OR IN THE SENATE?

>> SURE, LUCKY FOR KENTUCKY, PRESIDENT TRUMP AND NIKKI HALEY DON'T VOTE HERE SO THEY DON'T GET MUCH INPUT THAT IS FOR THE KENTUCKY VOTERS TO DECIDE AND THE BALLOT BOX N TERMS OF SENATOR McCONNELL THERE ISNOLOGY MORE HE LOOKS FORWARD TO AN FANCY FARM ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS A BESHEAR ON THE BALLOT.

HE HAS BEEN TO FANCY FARM ON ELECTION YEARS AND NONELECTION YEARS HE WAS THERE IN 2019.

ANY OPPORTUNITY HE HAS TO BE AT FANCY FARM HE WILL BE THERE.

IT IS NOT UNCOMMON RIGHT NOW, SENATOR McCONNELL IS NOT IN THE POSITION TO SET THE SENATE CALENDAR.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL PREVENTED HIM FROM COMING IN 21.

AND SO, YOU KNOW WE'LL HAVE TO SEE BUT IT IS NOT ATYPICAL THAT THE LINEUP IS NOT CONFIRMED UNTIL USUALLY THE DAY BEFORE.

>> Renee: BUT IT DOES HEIGHTEN THE SPECULATION BECAUSE OF THE RECENT HEALTH EPISODE WHERE HE FROZE MID-SENTENCE DURING A PRESS CONFERENCE AND PEOPLE WILL SAY IF HE IS NOT GOING TO ANNOUNCE HE IS NOT GOING TO SHOW UP UNTIL LATER IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS MOST RECENT HEALTH EPISODE.

>> AND THAT WOULD BE PURELY SPECULATIVE.

HE KEPT A ROBUST SCHEDULE HE CAME BACK AND FINISHED THAT PRESS CONFERENCE AND WAS AT LEXINGTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LATER THAT DAY AS WELL.

IT'S BUSINESS AS USUAL.

>> Renee: MUCH TO MAKE ABOUT NOTHING HERE, MORGAN EAVES?

>> I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PRESSURE ON LEADER McCONNELL TO SHOW UP GIVEN THE RECENT SPECULATION ABOUT HIS HEALTH.

KENTUCKIANS ARE WAITING TO SEE WILL HE BE ON OUR NEXT BALLOT FOR A SENATE RACE OR WON'T HE?

AND OBVIOUSLY THAT DOES DICTATE A LOT OF WHAT IS COMING INTO KENTUCKY.

KENTUCKIANS WILL BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR HIM.

HE IS NOT TOP OF MIND RIGHT NOW THAT GOVERNOR'S RACE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HAPPENING THIS YEAR.

SO WE'LL SEE.

I THINK THERE WILL BE PRESSURE ON HIM.

BUT NOT TOP OF THE LIST FOR FANCY FARM.

>> Renee: WHAT DO YOU SAY WILL CARLE, GOOD TO HAVE YOU?

>> NUMBER ONE I WANT TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS WISH LEADER McCONNELL THE BEST FOR HIS HEALTH.

I THINK IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AS YOU SEE PEOPLE AGE IN OFFICE, TO HAVE SOME I WOULD SAY LEEWAY TO BE ABLE TO ABLE WITH DIGNITY WE ARE WATCHING THEIR EVERY MOVE.

HE HOPE HE IS IN RECOVERY.

BUT, YES, I AGREE WITH MORGAN.

I HOPE SENATOR McCONNELL IS ABLE TO MAKE IT AND HOPE HE IS ABLE TO DEFINE HIS LEGACY WITH A I THINK A COD RAY OF CANDIDATES ALL McCONNELLITES.

IF YOU LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THE G.O.P.

NOMINEES THEY ARE ALL PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME UP THROUGH THE McCONNELL CAMP AND McCONNELL TRAINING GROUNDS OVER THE YEARS AND THEY WILL STAND THE TEST ABOUT WHETHER THEIR IDEAS AND WHETHER THEY CAN BE SOMEBODY THAT CAN DEFEAT A ANDY BESHEAR TICKET IN A GOVERNOR THAT PRODUCED AND DELIVERED FOR KENTUCKY.

>> Renee: ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE NOTICED IS SOMETIMES SENATOR McCONNELL STAYS FOR THE ENTIRE ROSTER OR SOMETIMES HE DOES NOT.

WILL HE HANG AROUND THE WHOLE TIME?

WE THINK THE WEATHER WILL BE KINDER THAN IN PREVIOUS FANCY FARMS BUT IT COULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE AND FOR SOMEONE WHO MAY NOT BE IN THE BEST OF HEALTH IT MAY TEST THEM?

>> I'LL TELL YOU RENEE IF THE LEADER CAN MAKE THE SCHEDULE WORK HE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO FANCY FARM EVERY YEAR.

IT'S THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE CALENDAR.

IF HE IS ABLE TO MAKE IT I KNOW THAT HE WILL BE MORE THAN ENTHUSIASTIC TO SUPPORT THE ENTIRE TICKET.

TYPICALLY THE WAY THEY RANK THE SPEAKING LINEUP IT'S BY SENIORITY.

OBVIOUSLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM SIT THROUGH THE WHOLE LINEUP.

WE HAVE A GREAT ROUND OF CANDIDATES AND EVERYONE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SPEECHES AND SO I THINK IF HIS SCHEDULE ALLOWS IT WE CAN EXPECT HIM TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN TICKET.

>> Renee: SOMETIMES THERE ARE RESONATING THREW LINES WITH THE TICKETS.

DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A RESONANT THROUGH LINE THIS TIME OR ALREADY HEARING JUST MUCH LOUDER WITH HECKLERS ON SATURDAY?

>> ITH HECKLERS THAT IS SORT OF A STAPLE OF OUR MODERN-DAY FANCY FARM PICNIC.

LIKE THAT IS HERE TO STAY.

SO I THINK THE SHEER VOLUME THAT ALL THE CANDIDATES WILL HAVE TO REACH EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE LOUD AND I THINK WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT WILL BE A THEME THROUGHOUT ALL THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT THEIR SPEECHES.

BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT SOME OF THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEES THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THEIR SPEECHES FOR QUITE SOMETIME.

THERE'S QUITE A BIT.

>> Renee: HOW LONG IS QUITE SOMETIME?

>> EVERYONE KNOWS THAT FANCY FARM IS THE FIRST SATURDAY OF AUGUST.

SO YOU PUT THAT MARKER DOWN A LOT OF VOTERS A LOT OF SORT OF POLITICAL INSIDERS YOU NAME IT LOOK FORWARD TO THIS DAY.

YOU NEED TO SHOW UP AND INSURE YOU DON'T MAKE MISTAKES.

IF YOU CAN SCORE A COUPLE POINTS WITH ONE LINERS, EVERYONE IS LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

DON'T MAKE MISTAKES.

THE ENTERTAINMENT FACTOR THE EXPECTATION IS ABSOLUTELY THERE.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME PREPARED THEY HAVE TO.

>> Renee: AND WE STARTED OFF THIS PROGRAM GOING INTO THE QUESTIONS ABOUT FANCY FARM WITHOUT SETTING UP WHAT FANCY FARM IS IN CASE THERE'S POLITICAL NEWCOMERS OR NEW TO KENTUCKY, THIS HAS BEEN A STAPLE SINCE 1880 THIS PICNIC THAT BENEFITS THE LOCAL PARISH AND THE POLITICAL SPEAKING DID NOT START UNTIL THE 20s AND 30s AND HE MADE IT FAMOUS ON A FLATBED TRUCK.

NOW WE'VE PROGRESSED TO GOING FROM A FLATBED TRUCK TO A NICE COVERED PAVILION WHICH DOES BLOCK SOME OF THE WIND.

BUT YOU KNOW IT'S BETTER.

SO IT IS PRETTY MUCH IT USED TO BE CALLED THE UNOFFICIAL OR OFFICIAL KICKOFF TO THE FALL CAMPAIGN SEASON BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE SURPASSED THAT ON MAY 17TH THE DAY AFTER THE PRIMARY.

THAT WAS THE OFFICIAL KICKOFF TO THE FALL CAMPAIGN.

BUT IT IS STILL SIGNIFICANT.

I THINK WE SHOULD ASK YOU GUYS, DO YOU STILL THINK IT HAS THE SAME SIGNIFICANCE AS IT DID BACK IN THE HAPPY CHANDLER DAYS?

>> THE SHORT ANSWER, RENEE, I THINK FOR REPUBLICANS ESPECIALLY IS YES.

THIS IS THE 143rd FANCY FARM PICNIC AT THE ST. JEROME PARISH IT IS A FUNDRAISER FOR THEM.

BUT I THINK WE ONLY STARTED ASKING THE QUESTION IS FANCY FARM STILL RELEVANT WHEN DEMOCRATS STARTED TO NOT SHOW UP IN 2019.

SO I THINK THAT THE QUESTION ITSELF IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE ONLY STARTED ASKING HOW RELEVANT IT WAS WHEN DEMOCRATS KIND OF CEDED WEST KEN.

A LARGE PART OF WHY REPUBLICANS HAVE A SUPER MAJOR IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE IS WEST KENTUCKY IT USED TO BE A STRONG DEMOCRATIC HOLD OUT.

THE CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS CAME HOME TO THEIR MORE CONSERVATIVE FAMILY VALUES AND STARTED VOTING REPUBLICAN WHICH IS A LARGE PART WHY THE MAJORITY BECAME REPUBLICAN IN KENTUCKY.

FOR REPUBLICANS FANCY FARM IS VERY MUCH BECOME A HOMECOMING OF SORTS.

>> Renee: SO THIS IS TRUE WHAT THEY SAID.

GOVERNOR ANDY BESHEAR HASN'T BEEN TO FANCY FARM SINCE 2019 WHEN HE WAS FIRST ELECTED.

WE KNOW THERE ARE HAS BEEN A LESS DEMOCRATIC PARTY PRESENCE AT FANCY FARMS OF LATE.

NOW WE KNOW THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE ALL OF THE NOMINEES WILL BE THERE.

AND SO WHY HAS IN RECENT YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN LESS DEMOCRATIC PARTICIPATION?

>> WELL, IN 2019 WE SAW GOVERNOR BESHEAR GET MASSIVE WINS IN WESTERN KENTUCKY.

SO IT'S NOT TRUE THAT IT'S ONE PARTY OR THE OTHER IT'S A PURPLE AREA OUT THERE.

BUT I THINK WE STARTED ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT FANCY FARM'S IMPORTANCE WHEN SOCIAL MEDIA TOOK OFF.

NOW, CANDIDATES DON'T HAVE TO GO ROOM TO ROOM, TOWN TO TOWN, THEY CAN GET ON FACEBOOK, GET ON TWITTER, GET ON INSTAGRAM WHATEVER PLATFORM THEY CHOOSE AND REACH VOTERS DIRECTLY OR DO IT THE OLD-FASHIONED WAY AND GO TO THEIR DOOR.

WITH THE ADVENT OF SOCIAL MEDIA EVENTS LIKE FANCY FARM MAY BE HAVE TAKEN A BIT OF A BACKSEAT.

I WILL SAY THIS EVENT IS PARTICULARLY AMAZING BECAUSE IRIS MENTIONED THE ENTERTAINMENT FACTOR IT'S PART STUMP, PART RALLY AND NOT ROAST.

AND YOU CANNOT ROAST EACH OTHER UNLESS ARE YOU THERE.

GOVERNOR BESHEAR DID NOT COME SINCE 2019.

WELL IT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS RUNNING A STATE IN THE MIDST OF THE CORONAVIRUS DURING THE LAST ELECTION CYCLE.

SO HE FELT THAT HIS PRESENCE WAS NEEDED ELSEWHERE.

SO WE'LL SEE IT PICK UP.

THE DEMOCRATIC SLATE WILL BE THERE.

WE'LL HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES AND WE'LL HEAR THE STADIUM, ROAST RALLY AND SEE A GREAT REPRESENTATION OF WHAT FANCY FARM USED TO BE.

>> Renee: WHAT WILL WE HEAR FROM THE DEMOCRATS?

>> MATT BEVIN AS I RECALL WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO SAY THAT FANCY FARM WAS NOT AN IMPORTANT PLACE TO GO.

THE PICNIC ACTUALLY WASN'T VERY RELEVANT.

>> Renee: WHILE HE WAS SPEAKING AT IT.

>> BUT I'M SAYING IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SETTING THE TONE FOR SOMETHING AND SETTING THE TONE FOR A PARTY AND YET, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANDY BESHEAR NOT BEING THERE SINCE 2019.

YOU KNOW WHERE ANDY BESHEAR HAS BEEN?

DURING ONE OF THE GREATEST NATURAL DISASTERS IN KENTUCKY, ANDY BESHEAR SHOWED UP IN FANCY FARM KENTUCKY IN MAYFIELD IN GRAVES COUNTY.

AND COMMUNITIES WERE AFFECTED BY THOSE THINGS.

SHOWING UP IS MORE THAN A POLITICAL PICNIC.

GOVERNING IS MORE THAN THE POLITICS BEHIND IT.

KENTUCKIANS NOW HAVE A LEADER THAT THEY CAN SEE THEMSELVES IN.

SOMEBODY THAT TRULY CARES ABOUT THEM.

AND I THINK THAT IS WILDLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHETHER OR NOT SOMEBODY TELLS A GOOD JOKE ON A STAGE.

ANDY BESHEAR SAY REAL LEADER NOT A REAL POLITICIAN.

>> Renee: GOING BACK TO THE POINT ABOUT MATT BEVIN DURING AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH YEAR HE MADE THE POINT ABOUT NOT NECESSARILY THE RELEVANCE OF FANCY FARM BUT THAT THE BARB TRADING SEEMED IN MY WORDS JUVENILE WE SHOULD BE BETTER THAN THAT.

>> YES.

>> WHAT DO YOU SAY?

>> I DON'T THINK THAT WORKED OUT WELL FOR HIM.

>> Renee: END OF STORY.

>> YES.

AND IT'S INTERESTING TO CHARACTERIZE WE SHALL KENTUCKY AS PURPLE WHEN I CAN'T THINK OF ANYBODY WEST OF I65 AS A DEMOCRAT ELECTED.

>> IN THE LEGISLATURE IN THE CENTRAL TIME ZONE IN THE CENTRAL TIME ZONE.

>> YOU HAVE THE REPUBLICAN MAYOR OF MAYFIELD ENDORSING ANDY BESHEAR FOR GOVERNOR.

SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU WHEN REPUBLICAN LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE COMING OUT FOR THE DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL NOMINEE?

IT TELLS YOU IT'S COMPETITIVE.

WE HAVE NOT CEDED THAT AREA OF THE STATE.

>> Renee: MAYFIELD IS WHERE YOU HAD THE TORNADOES IN 2021.

AND KATHY HAS BEEN COMPLIMENTARY OF MITCH McCONNELL AS WELL WHENEVER HELP IS COMING FROM IS WHO YOU ARE GOING TO APPLAUD?

>> WHOEVER IS LEADING THAT EFFORT TO GET YOU AND PEOPLE HELP IS WHO YOU SHOULD SUPPORT AND SHE SHOWED THAT WHEN SHE ANNOUNCED HER ENDORSEMENT AND APPEARED IN CAMPAIGN ADS FOR HIM.

>> Renee: THAT CARRIES SOME WEIGHT, RIGHT?

A REPUBLICAN MAYOR IN A SMALL TOWN, DEVASTATED BY A NATURAL DISASTER COMING OUT FOR THE INCUMBENT DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR THAT'S GOT TO CARRY WEIGHT.

>> IN ANY CAMPAIGN YOU SEE CROSSOVER AND SOME IS PERSONAL AND SOME IS POLITICAL.

IN ANY CAMPAIGN EACH SIDE IS GOING TO TOUT THE SUPPORTERS FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE.

WHEN DAVID WAS RUNNING IN 2011.

SO I THINK EACH SIDE WANTS TO SHOW THEIR BIPARTISANSHIP VERSUS WHAT IS REALLY BEHIND IT.

>> SPEAKING WHICH 49% OF REPUBLICANS IN THE MORNING CONSOLE POLL, ACTUALLY APPROVE OF THE JOB ANDY BESHEAR IS DOING.

HE IS CONSISTENTLY BEEN IN THE 60s AND YOU DON'T GET THAT WAY BY NOT GARNERING REPUBLICAN SUPPORT AND APPROVAL OF THE JOB YOU ARE DOING.

AS FAR AS WEST KENTUCKY GOES, YOU HAVE AN INTENSE JERRY MANNEDDERRING WE WENT THROUGH AND BEFORE THAT THERE WAS DECLINE.

BUT THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN STRONG TIES TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND WORKING CLASS FAMILY VALUES AND FARM FAMILIES OR FACTORY WORKERS THAT ALL ADHERE TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LINE.

CULTURE WARS HAVE SEPARATED US FROM THOSE PEOPLE.

AND THAT'S WHAT IS CONCERNING TO ME.

IS INSTEAD OF COMMON SENSE GOVERNMENT WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES THAT AFFECT PEOPLE LIKE THEIR POCKETBOOK OR HOW THEY SEND THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL OR ANY OF THE OTHER IMPORTANT THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHO GETS TO GO TO THE BATHROOM.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T MATTER TO ANYBODY BECAUSE IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE LEAD ON.

BUT IT IS WHAT SEPARATES US.

FROM ACTUALLY GETTING REAL WORK DONE IN GOVERNMENT.

>> I THINK INTENSE GERRYMANDERING IS LAUGHABLE COMING FROM -- >> JAMES COMER SEAT.

>> THE LAST TIME THAT DEMOCRATS GOT TO REDISTRICT UNDER GREG THE MAPS GOT THROWN OUT THREE TIMES BY THE SUPREME COURT.

I FIND IT LAUGHABLE THIS IS CALLED INTENSE GERRYMANDERING.

THE MAP WAS UPHELD EVERY SINGLE TIME AND THEY STILL WON A MAJORITY UNDER THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL MAPS.

>> IT IS NOT INTENSE TO GO FROM PA DUKE KA TO FRANKFORT.

>> AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

>> IT'S CALLED THE COMER CORRIDOR THEY'VE NAME TO DO FOR HIM.

>> Renee: THAT IS STILL TO BE LITIGATED.

>> I WANTED TO KIND OF REVISIT A POINT THAT WILL MADE REGARDING WHAT SHOULD DOMINATE VOTERS MINDS WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES WHAT MOTIVATES A PERSON TO SHOW UP AND DEMONSTRATE SUPPORT FOR A CANDIDATE.

AND I JUST WANT TO BE VERY DELICATE HERE, I DARE KENTUCKY DEMOCRATS TO TELL VOTERS WHO SHOULD MATTER.

WHAT KIND OF WHAT WILL OUTLINED WHAT SHOULD MATTER IS THIS, WHAT SHOULD MATTER IS THAT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN WE CONNECT WITH KENTUCKY VOTERS THEY TELL US TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THAT THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH A JOE BIDEN NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM.

PERIOD.

FULL STOP.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FAMILY VALUES THAT IS A DOMINANT ISSUE.

IT IS A DOMINANT ISSUE YOU CANNOT IGNORE WHAT FAMILIES ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS PEOPLE ARE INFLUENCE AND CIRCLES OF INFLUENCE.

THESE SOCIAL AND FAMILY SORT OF BASED ISSUES AND PARENTAL CHOICE ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IN KENTUCKY VOTERS.

I WOULD CAUTION AND DARE KENTUCKY DEMOCRATS IF THEY ARE GOING TO TELL TOP DOWN WHAT YOUR AVERAGE KENTUCKY VOTER SHOULD CARE ABOUT WE'LL SEE HOW UNSUCCESSFUL THEY WILL BE COME NOVEMBER.

>> I THINK KENTUCKY VOTERS WANT TO TALK ABOUT FREEDOM.

WE HEARD ABOUT WHAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IN A CULTURAL ISSUE.

THIS LEGISLATURE HAS ONE OF THE MOST EXTREME AGENDAS AGAINST WOMEN AND AGAINST PARENTS THAT WE'VE EVER SEEN.

ARE YOU NOT ALLOWED TO GO TO THE PHARMACY OR THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE WITHOUT REPUBLICAN APPROVAL IN SOME OF THESE BILLS.

THERE ARE ATTORNEY GENERAL CAMERON IS ASKING OUT OF STATE PRACTITIONERS TO SUBMIT THEIR FEMALE DOCTOR RECORDS ABOUT WHETHER A PRACTICE OCCURRED IN ANOTHER STATE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TALK ABOUT PARENTS' RIGHTS.

BUT IF YOU ARE A PARENT OF A TRANS KID, NO, ANDY BESHEAR IS NOT FOR REASSIGNMENT SURGERY.

IT'S BEEN DISPROVEN SEVERAL TIMES IT'S CUTE THEY WANT TO DO THAT.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IT SHOULD BE A PARENTS RIGHT TO GET THEIR CHILD HEALTHCARE.

>> Renee: VETOED SB150.

>> BILL OF RIGHTS OF PARENTS.

HE DOESN'T BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE -- >> HE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE MAKING DECISIONS FOR PARENTS.

AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S SOMETHING I AGREE WITH AND I WOULD DARE MOST KENTUCKIANS TO SAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS BETTER THAN THEY DO.

>> Renee: REPUBLICANS ARE TALKING ABOUT PARENTAL RIGHTS.

WHO IS RIGHT ON PARENTAL RIGHTS?

>> THIS IS ALL LIKE PARENT -- IT DEPENDS UNTIL YOU GET TO THE TEACHERS' UNIONS AND WE DON'T LIKE CHOICE OR PARENTAL RIGHTS ANYMORE IF YOU ARE ANDY BESHEAR.

>> PARENTAL RIGHTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY SOMEBODY THAT WORKS IN STATES YOU SEE IT'S COPY AND PASTE LEGISLATION AND ALL IT DOES IS CODIFY WHAT EXISTS IN FEDERAL LAW THEY ARE NOT CREATING NEW LAWS.

ARE YOU GIVING A PARENT THE RIGHT TO PARENT YOUR CHILD GREAT, MOST PARENTS KNEW THEY COULD DO THAT.

>> WHY IS ANDY BESHEAR VETOING IT.

>> IT IS A POLITICAL MOVE IT'S NOT A SUBSTANTIVE ONE.

>> Renee: WHY DOES THE GOVERNOR SPEND AIR TIME ON IT?

>> BECAUSE OF SORT OF THE NEGATIVE CONNOTATION AND NEGATIVE ADS TRYING TO PAINT HIM AS SOME AND IRIS SAID IT QUOTE-UNQUOTE JOE BIDEN DEMOCRAT.

>> Renee: HE DOES TALK ABOUT BEING A DEACON IN HIS CHURCH HE IS A FAITH BASED LEADER.

>> TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT YOURSELF.

>> HE IS A FAITH BASED LEADER.

IF YOU'VE LISTENED TO HIM YOU KNOW HE REGULARLY QUOTES SCRIPTURE AND HE DOESN'T DO IT TO SCORE POINTS THAT IS WHO HE IS.

AND IF YOU'VE LISTENED TO HIM SINCE THEN HE HASN'T CHANGED THAT NARRATIVE.

IT'S NOT PREACHING.

IT'S NOT TRYING TO SCORE POINTS HE IS BEING WHO HE IS.

AND GUESS WHAT BASED ON THE POLL NUMBERS AND THE ELECTION IN 2019 MOST KENTUCKIANS LIKE WHO HE IS.

>> Renee: YOU WERE ON INSIDE KENTUCKY POLITICS WHO SAID POLL NUMBERS DON'T ALWAYS TRANSLATE INTO VOTES RIGHT?

>> AGREED.

>> I WOULD SAY APPROVAL VERSUS DISAPPROVAL DOES.

ANY GOOD POLLSTER WILL TELL YOU APPROVAL RATINGS ARE A BETTER HARBINGER THAN HORSERACE POLLS ARE.

ANYBODY CAN TAKE A SAMPLE ABOUT LIKELY VOTERS AND SAY OK HERE IS THE PICTURE AND THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE THIS WAY.

WE'VE SEEN SINCE 2016 TRUMP'S NUMBERS WERE WRONG ON THOSE THINGS.

IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ABOUT WHETHER SOMEBODY THINKS IT'S GOING ON THE RIGHT OR WRONG TRACK AND APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE OF THE LEADERSHIP IN PLACE.

AND ANDY BESHEAR IS 60%.

>> Renee: APPROVAL RATING AND HE HAS ALWAYS COME OUT 20 POINTS AHEAD OF HIS COMPETITION.

>> RIGHT.

SOMEONE IN THE THICK OF THAT, YEAH, I THINK THERE IS A DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU LIKE SOMEONE THAT IS A SET OF NUMBERS.

BUT WHEN VOTERS SHOW UP, I THINK SORT OF A FACTOR THAT IS HARD TO QUANTIFY IS DO YOU THINK THAT PERSON IS SCAPABLE OF DOING THE JOB TO EXECUTE AND DELIVER THAT VISION.

AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING SEPARATE AND HARD TO POLL THAT.

BUT, SOMEONE THAT HAS SORT OF BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT WITH THE McCONNELL CAMPAIGN YOUR LIKABILITY NUMBERS CAN BE ONE THING BUT IF KENTUCKIANS BELIEVE YOU CAN DELIVER AND DO THE JOB THAT IS MORE COMPELLING.

>> Renee: IS IT FAIR TO COMPARE WASHINGTON TO FRANKFORT THAT MITCH McCONNELL HAS AND HAD CANNOT BE COMPARED PERHAPS TO CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICE.

>> I DO THINK IT IS DIFFERENT.

PEOPLE WANT TO LIKE THEIR GOVERNOR.

THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT RACE THAN WE SAW WITH MATT BEVIN.

THIS FIRST OF ALL IT IS A BINARY CHOICE YOU HAVE TWO CANDIDATES WITH MATT BEVIN'S RACE YOU HAD A THIRD CHOICE SIPHONING OFF VOTES.

IT'S DIFFERENT IN A LOT OF WAYS.

AND DANIEL CAMERON IS NOT MAF MATT BEVIN.

I KNOW THE OTHER SIDE WILL TRY TO MAKE THE COMPARISONS BUT IT IS A DIFFERENT RACE.

AND PEOPLE DO WANT TO LIKE THEIR GOVERNOR.

THEY WANT TO FEEL LIKE THEY KNOW THEIR GOVERNOR.

THIS IS REALLY DIFFERENT.

>> Renee: YOU THINK PEOPLE LIKE AND ASSOCIATE THEMSELVES WITH DANIEL CAMERON?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK HE HOLDS KENTUCKY'S VALUES FIRST AND FOREMOST.

>> DOES -- >> Renee: MORE SO THAN ANDY BESHEAR?

>> I CAN'T THINK OF MORE DISPARATE VIEWPOINT FROM TWO PEOPLE.

ONE BELIEVES -- >> WHICH ANDY BESHEAR IS TALKING ABOUT, THE ONE WHO WANTS TO BE MODERATE WEST KENTUCKY AND BE LIBERAL AND FUNDRAISE IN SAN FRANCISCO?

>> HAVE YOU SEEN A FUNDRAISING INVITATION FROM SAN FRANCISCO.

>> WHERE DOES MOST OF HIS MONEY COMES FROM?

OUT OF STATE?

>> TELL ME NOW.

>> I'M CURIOUS THAT IS WHY I'M ASKING.

>> YOU MADE A STATEMENT YOU DIDN'T MAKE AN INQUIRY.

WHEN PEOPLE LIKE THIS WANT TO TELL YOU WHO SOMEBODY IS BASED ON NATIONAL TALKING POINTS THEY ARE NATIONALIZING THE RACE.

BECAUSE ANDY BESHEAR IS IN TOUCH WITH KENTUCKY VALUES.

DANIEL CAMERON IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT IS TRYING TO MAKE THIS A NATIONAL RACE RELYING ON PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE STATE AND OUTSIDE MONEY TO DO HIS BIDDING.

HE WANTS TO CREATE A CULTURE WAR AND TALK ABOUT ISSUES THAT VERY FEW KENTUCKIANS REGARDLESS OF IRIS' POINT VERY FEW KENTUCKIANS WHEN THEY GO TO BED AT NIGHT ARE MORE WORRIED ABOUT WHO IS USING WHAT BATHROOM HOW TO MAKE THEIR ENDS MEET AND WHO IS GOING TO SHOW UP AS A LEADER WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG THIS IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT OUR STATE HAS.

IT IS A BY POLARITY.

AND ANDY BESHEAR HAS BEEN A GRAVITATIONAL PULL TOWARDS PEOPLE TO THE CENTER TOWARDS COMMON SENSE GOVERNMENT TO CARING ABOUT EACH OTHER.

DANIEL CAMERON SO FAR HAS DONE A GREAT JOB IN DIVIDING PEOPLE TRYING TO CONQUER THEM.

HE WANTS TO TELL PEOPLE THAT THEY GET TO YOU KNOW, HE'S GOING TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT YOUR HEALTHCARE.

I AM ON A PANEL WITH THREE WOMEN AND YOU ARE A WOMAN, I TRUST YOU ALL TO MAKE YOUR HEALTHCARE DECISIONS.

DANIEL CAMERON DOESN'T.

OUT OF CONTROL EXTREME LEGISLATURE DOESN'T.

ANDY BESHEAR IS LITERALLY SAYING HEY, I JUST THINK YOU'RE SMART ENOUGH AND YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR FAITH THAT YOU CAN MAKE THIS DECISION ON YOUR OWN IT'S NOT MY JOB TO TELL YOU ABOUT HOW TO GET HEALTHCARE FOR YOUR BODY.

>> Renee: DOES THAT NOT RESONATE WITH LIBERTARIAN WINGS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?

>> LIKE I SAID YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC IN THE RACE YOU DON'T HAVE AN INDEPENDENT OR LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE.

THIS IS A BINARY CHOICE.

AND I THINK ONE THING THAT YOU WERE HITTING ON THE BY POLELARITY IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO ANDY BESHEAR IS READ HIS VETO MESSAGES HE IS VETOING LOWERING OF THE INCOME TAX MONEY IN PEOPLE'S POCKETS THAT THEY EARNED.

>> Renee: THE FIRST TIME AROUND.

BUT NOT THE SECOND TIME.

>> AND HE IS CAMPAIGNING ON LOWERING THE INCOME TAX THAT HE VETOED.

SO IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO ANDY BESHEAR READ HIS VETO MESSAGES IT IS NOT THE PERSON HE IS PUTTING ON TV AND PORTRAYING TO BE.

>> AS SOMEONE WHO WORKED WITH HIM HE IS WHO YOU SEE ON TV AND KENTUCKIANS HAVE CONNECTED WITH THAT.

ABOUT THE INCOME TAX HE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH A DIFFICULT TIME AND STILL ARE WITH INFLATION.

AND THAT PEOPLE NEEDED THAT RELIEF THAT MAYBE HE FELT WAS UNJUSTIFIED PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE WERE IN A BETTER ECONOMIC POSITION NATIONALLY AND IN THE COMMONWEALTH.

ANDY BESHEAR IS SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT JUST OUR CONSOLER IN CHIEF BECAUSE YOU SAW HIM EVERYDAY OF THE WEEK TALKING STRAIGHT TO YOU, BEING HONEST WITH YOU, AND AT TIME WHEN MAYBE YOU FELT LIKE YOU COULDN'T TRUST YOUR OWN NATIONAL GOVERNMENT THERE WAS SOMEONE IN YOUR STATE CLOSE BY, TALKING TO YOU STRAIGHT, MAYBE NOT EVEN WEARING A SUIT AND TIE.

CRYING.

WE HAVE SEEN HIM THROUGH IT ALL.

WE'VE SEEN HIM THROUGH NATIONAL DISASTERS.

>> POLICE OUTSIDE TO MAKE SURE YOU DIDN'T GO TO CHURCH AND KEEPING THE JAILS OPEN AND KEEPING THE STRIP CLUBS OPEN.

>> KEEPING THE JAILS OPEN I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU WOULD WANT THE INMATES TO GO.

YES THERE ARE CERTAIN FACILITIES EVEN DURING A NATIONAL PANDEMIC THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP OPEN.

AND SAYING -- >> [ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> THAT IS A GREAT TALKING POINT BUT IT'S NOT TRUE.

>> MORGAN THERE IS CRITICISM THAT THE RESTRICTIONS WENT ON TOO LONG AND THEY WERE TOO STRONG THE GOVERNOR HAS TO EMBRACE HIS DECISIONS FOR THOSE THAT THINK YES THERE WAS A LOT OF OVERSTEPPING AND OVERREACHING BY THE GOVERNMENT WHEN PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICE.

>> I WOULD ASK THOSE PEOPLE TO TALK TO THE TENS OF FAMILIES OF KENTUCKIANS WHO DID LOSE THEIR LIVES.

I'M SURE THEY WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW ON THAT TOPIC.

>> I WANT TO COME BACK TO THIS THING WITH THE JAILS.

DANIEL CAMERON BROUGHT IN ONE OF HIS CHIEF DEPUTIES THE ARCHITECT OF THE BEVIN PARDONS WHERE SOME OF THEM RETURNED TO SOME OF THE MOST HAIN NOWS AND VIOLENT ACTS WE HAVE EVER SEEN IN THE NEWS.

I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THIS OUTRAGE THIS PHONY OUTRAGE ABOUT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WHEN THEIR NOMINEE FOR GOVERNOR IN A TIME WHEN CRIME IS SPIKING, BY THE WAY.

>> CRIME IS SPIKING AND WHAT IS ANDY BESHEAR DOING ABOUT IT.

>> IS HE THE CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

>> WHAT HAS HE BEEN DOING ABOUT IT.

>> WHO?

DANIEL CAMERON.

>> OUR GOVERNOR.

>> IS THE GOVERNOR THE CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY.

>> HE IS OUR GOVERNOR AND CRIME -- >> Renee: CRIME IN LOUISVILLE BE ADDRESSED BY THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE CONSOLIDATED GOVERNMENT AND METRO LOUISVILLE.

>> WHEN WE HAVE A NEW MAYOR AND WE'RE HOPEFUL.

>> Renee: LET'S DO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT NATIONALIZING OF THE RACE.

AND THE ISSUES AND PERHAPS WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF THIS.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HEAR ON SATURDAY.

ABOUT TRANSGENDER YOUTH HEALTHCARE?

WILL WE HEAR ABOUT ABORTION?

OR WILL IT BE AN ECONOMIC MESSAGE?

SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW YOU ARE GOING TO EXPAND MY KID'S ABILITY TO GET A QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HIGHER EDUCATION.

OR PUT MORE MONEY INTO MY POCKET.

BUT THOSE ISSUES SEEM TO BE NOT AT THE PRESENT THE FOREFRONT OF THIS CAMPAIGN.

>> WELL, RENEE AS YOU MAY KNOW AND SOME OF THE VIEWERS IT VARIES ON THE TIME LIMIT THERE IS A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER IN SEVEN MINUTES AND THERE'S EXPECTATIONS ABOUT THE DELIVERY OF YOUR MESSAGE.

SO I DO EXPECT THAT WE'LL GET A FLAVOR A BIT OF THIS AND THAT.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO COVER A LOT IN BRIEF AMOUNT OF TIME AND WHEN YOU HIT THAT TIME LIMIT THEY PLAY THE BANJO.

>> Renee: THEY DON'T HOOK YOU OFF THE STAGE BUT IT MAKES THE POINT THIS FANCY FARM IS PARTIAL ENTERTAINMENT, SOME INFORMATION.

BUT THIS MAKES THE NEED FOR CANDIDATES TO APPEAR ON PUBLIC FORUMS.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THAN SIX MINUTES BE IN THE PUBLIC AND ENGAGE NOT JUST WITH YOUR FANS BUT WITH EACH OTHER IN THE SAME ROOM.

>> IT'S NOTABLE TOO.

THIS SATURDAY WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT THE TWO GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATES ARE ON THE SAME STAGE IN FRONT OF THE SAME AUDIENCE.

GOVERNOR BESHEAR DECIDED HE WAS TOO BUSY OR DID NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO CONNECT WITH A STRONG CONSTITUENCY LIKE THE KENTUCKY FARM BUREAU THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH TO SHARE THE SAME STAGE AND CONNECT WITH THE INFLUENTIAL GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS THROUGHOUT OUR STATE THAT ARE IN EVERY CORNER OF THE COMMONWEALTH AND HAVE A LOT OF PULL IN THE CIRCLES.

I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF ANTICIPATION FOR SATURDAY THAT BESHEAR HASN'T WANTED TO ENGAGE DANIEL DIRECTLY AND WE'LL SEE THAT CONTRAST SATURDAY MORNING.

>> Renee: I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL BE THE SPEAKING ORDER BUT IT STARTS OFF WITH THE GOVERNOR AND THEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DECIDE THAT.

>> MAYBE THEY DID THE FLIP OF THE COIN.

THEY FLIP THE COIN WHEN YOU GET THERE THEY DO IT BY A COIN TOSS TO DETERMINE WHO GOES FIRST?

>> THE DEMOCRAT OR THE REPUBLICAN?

>> YES.

BECAUSE IT MAY APPEAR THE ROSTER IN ORDER THAT DOESN'T MEAN HOW THAT WILL ACTUALLY GO PLAY OUT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT DOWN BALLOT BECAUSE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S RACE SHOULD BE INTERESTING.

ALTHOUGH THE OUTCOME MAY NOT BE AS INTERESTING.

BUT YOU DO HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS SOME NAME RECOGNITION IN PAMELA STEVENSON WHO WAS IN THE STATE HOUSE AND SERVED ONE OR TWO TERMS AND KNOWN FOR HIS FIERY SPEECHES.

WE'LL SEE IF THE HEAT ELEVATES HER MORE ON THAT.

IS THAT GOING TO RESONATE WITH KENTUCKY VOTERS?

OR WILL IT BE PERCEIVED AS TOO STRONG.

>> COLONEL PAM STEVENSON IS KNOWN FOR HER FIERY SPEECHES GIVEN THE HEIGHTENED ATMOSPHERE SHE WILL DO AMAZING AND RESONATE WITH FOLKS.

EVEN IF YOU WATCH THE LEGISLATIVE FLOOR ACTION SHE OFTEN HAS SOME MEMBERS OF THE OPPOSITE PARTY GO AFTER ONE OF HER BIG SPEECHES AND PAT HER ON THE BACK.

SHE INSPIRES EVERYBODY.

I THINK SHE WILL DO GREAT.

IT WILL BE THE FIRST TIME SHE AND HER OPPONENT RUSSELL COLEMAN HAVE BEEN ON THE STAGE TOGETHER I THINK SHE WILL COME OUT ON TOP EVEN IF ENERGY WAS THE ONLY INDICATOR.

SHE WILL BE THE WINNER IN THAT MATCHUP.

>> Renee: WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I'M EXCITED FOR RUSSELL COLEMAN.

IT IS A JAMES COMEYING HE IS A WESTERN KENTUCKY GUY AND EXCITED TO SEE A STRONG TURNOUT OF SUPPORT FOR RUSSELL.

BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK HE HAS A LOT OF MATERIAL TO WORK WITH.

COLONEL STEVENSON RIGHT NOW, IF ELECTIONS WERE HELD SHE DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA SHE IS NOT LICENSED THAT FACT ALONE THAT SORT OF OVERSIGHT OR MAYBE LACK OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL DESPITE HER EARLY ANNOUNCEMENT OF CANDIDACY BUT YET STILL HAS TO CATCH UP, TO MEET THE QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS I HOPE THAT RUSSELL COLEMAN HIGHLIGHTS THAT TO ESSENTIALLY DEMONSTRATE HE IS READY ON DAY ONE.

>> THE KENTUCKY CONSTITUTION DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO BE A LICENSED KENTUCKY ATTORNEY.

IT SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE A PRACTICING ATTORNEY FOR EIGHT YEARS PRIOR TO.

>> Renee: MAJOR OVERSIGHT, THOUGH.

WHY DIDN'T YOU GET THAT TOGETHER BEFORE YOU RAN?

>> LET'S MAKE THIS CLEAR.

WHEN PEOPLE DON'T DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH WE'VE HEARD THIS A LITTLE BIT.

>> Renee: IS SHE LICENSED TO PRACTICE LAW IN KENTUCKY?

>> SHE WILL BE BARRED IN KENTUCKY.

THIS IS WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

BARRES PROCESSTY IS A TERM THAT STATES USE, INDIANA IS A RECIPROCAL BAR STATE WITH KENTUCKY THAT MEANS IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PRACTICE IN INDIANA AND TRY A CASE IN KENTUCKY THEY ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR ABILITY TO PRACTICE.

AND INDIANA ACKNOWLEDGES KENTUCKY.

WE ALREADY KNEW THAT.

THEN THE STATUTE OF EIGHT YEARS OF PRACTICING ATTORNEY WHICH ALSO GENERAL CAMERON DID NOT MEET AND THEY GAVE IT TO HIM ON A CLERKSHIP AND COLONEL PAM STEVENSON WHO PRACTICED LAW FOR 27 YEARS, 11 COUNTRIES AND ALSO HERE MUNICIPALLY, SHE'S -- SHE WILL BE BARRED IN AUGUST AFTER SHE PASSES THE ETHICS EXAM.

>> Renee: WHY NOT HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT IS THE QUESTION THAT VOTERS ARE GOING TO ASK.

>> BECAUSE THERE'S RECIPROCITY.

>> Renee: WHY SHE IS NOT GOING TO TRY A CASE NOW, RIGHT?

>> SHE IS GOING TO BE TRYING CASES WHEN THE NEXT ATTORNEY GENERAL OF KENTUCKY.

OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE THOSE PROPER STEPS.

BUT AS FAR AS -- >> Renee: WHEN SHE FILED TO RUN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL SHE DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE.

>> THERE IS A PROCESS OF STEPS IT TAKES.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WAKE UP AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE BARRED.

BECAUSE WE HAVE RECIPROCITY WITH OTHER STATES THAT IS HOW IT WORKS.

BUT I AM -- >> Renee: THAT IS A HARD CASE TO KENTUCKY VOTERS WHO HEAR SHE IS NOT LICENSED TO PRACTICE LAW IN KENTUCKY.

>> WE ELECTED A GUY THAT LITERALLY HAD NEVER TRIED A CASE.

>> WHEN YOU SEARCH DANIEL CAMERON'S NAME HE SHOWED UP ON ZERO COURT FILINGS WITHIN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY.

HE HAD NEVER BEEN IN A COURTROOM IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY.

SO THE FACT THAT THIS ARGUMENT IS HAPPENING IS VERY ONE-SIDED.

BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT.

WHEREAS COLONEL PAM STEVENSON HAS BEEN UP FRONT ABOUT THE PROCESS AND WILL IS CORRECT THEY ONLY OFFER THE BAR EXAM TWO TIMES A YEAR SHE COULD PRACTICE LAW IN KENTUCKY AND A PROCESS CALLED AD HOC WHICH SHE COULD GET A SPONSORSHIP ATTORNEY TO PRACTICE LAW IN KENTUCKY.

AND AS A MEMBER OF THE MILITARY SHE HAD TO GET AN AFFIDAVIT FROM EVERY STATE AND EVERY COUNTRY SHE LIVED IN AND PRACTICED LAW IN BEFORE SHE COULD TAKE THE BAR EXAM.

HE IS CORRECT IT'S NOT JUST SHOWING UP ONE DAY AND THE FACT THAT DANIEL CAMERON STILL HAS NEGLECTED TO ADDRESS HIS FAILURE TO MEET THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT.

>> UNCONSTITUTIONALLY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL RIGHT NOW?

>> Renee: WHEN HE RAN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL HE SAT AT TABLES AND ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS.

HE NEVER PROSECUTED A CASE.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT ATTORNEY GENERAL NOT BEING -- >> THE DEMOCRATS WHO GREG HIT SO HARD AT THIS POINT AND LOST SO HARD HIM.

THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS IN THE PLAYBOOK IT IS A HEAD-SCRATCHER THIS IS GROUND-HOG'S DAY.

THE KENTUCKY DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHEN WE RECRUIT A CANDIDATE FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT'S PROBABLY NUMBER ONE THING TO CHECK OFF THE LIST AND INSURE THAT ARE YOU QUALIFIED.

WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS.

AND I IMAGINE IT WILL REQUIRE MORE TIME BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU EXPLAIN WHATEVER THAT WAS, I THINK KENTUCKY VOTERS ARE SAYING ARE YOU PREPARED TO RUN ARE YOU RUNNING A SERIOUS CAMPAIGN.

I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

IT WAS A HIT IN 2019.

KDP LED THAT AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN AND IT'S DIFFERENT NOW BECAUSE IT'S THEIR CANDIDATE.

>> DOES THE COLONEL PRACTICE LAW FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS ON MULTIPLE CONTINENTS ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED STATES.

>> Renee: AND SHE HAS TRIED A CASE.

>> ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE THIS IS NOT SOMEONE WHO JUST SHOWED UP HAD A LAW CLERKSHIP AND SAID I LIKE TO DO THIS.

SHE HAS A STORIED CAREER NOT JUST IN PRIVATE PRACTICE AND HELPING MILITARY VETERANS ON A NONPROFIT BASIS BUT SHE SERVED AND DEFENDED THE LAW OF THE UNITED STATES BEFORE MILITARY COURTS.

I CAN'T THINK OF ANYONE WHO WOULD QUESTION THIS WOMEN'S PREDEN SHALLS.

>> AND WE ARE FOCUSING ON THIS ISSUE.

HER OPPONENT COMING BACK TO CRIME IN LOUISVILLE, I THINK WE'VE MENTIONED THAT, WAS LITERALLY THE CHIEF PROSECUTOR.

AND IN NOVEMBER 2020 OUR ARTICLE HE ADMITTED THAT EVERYTHING THAT HE HAD TRIED TO KEEP CRIME DOWN IN JEFFERSON COUNTY IN LOUISVILLE AND THE CITY HAD FAILED.

THIS PERSON WHO IS A SELF ADMITTED FAILURE AT HIS JOB OF BEING A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL, AND A VERY PROMINENT ROLE, WANTS NOW A PROMOTION.

AND I THINK WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS VERY MUCH BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT SOMEBODY IS ENOUGH OF A LAWYER.

WHICH SEEMS PRETTY SILLY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

>> Renee: SPEAKING OF SILLINESS SOMEONE DID ASK A QUESTION WHO WILL BE THE FUNNIEST SPEAKER AT FANCY FARM?

>> THAT IS A GOOD ONE.

>> HE USUALLY COMES WITH THE GREAT DAD JOKES.

>> I THINK WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN FILL THOSE SHOES.

>> .

>> THINK MOST LIKE DANGEROUS PERSON OUT THERE IS PROBABLY OUR SECRETARY OF STATE MICHAEL ADAMS.

>> Renee: DEFINE DANGEROUS.

>> YOU DON'T SEE IT COMING.

AND THEN JUST BOOM.

BUT SOMEBODY WHO I THINK IS A CONSUMMATE PERFORMER AT FANCY FARM THAT NEVER GETS HER CREDIT IS ALLISON BALL OUR TREASURER WHO IS RUNNING FOR AUDITOR.

SHE DELIVERS A ROCK STAR FANCY FARM SPEECH.

AND I FEEL LIKE FANCY FARM SUCH A BIG EVENT IT'S HARDER TO GET A LOT OF FANFARE DOWN TICKET AND THE LAST FEW TO GO SHE IS ONE I'M KEEPING AN EYE ON.

>> Renee: SHE WILL BRING IT.

>> SHE ALWAYS DELIVERS AT FANCY FARM.

>> Renee: WHO ON YOUR SIDE IS GOING TO BE THE JOKESTER.

>> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR COLEMAN DOES AN AMAZING JOB AND I THINK COLONEL PAM STEVENSON WILL EQUAL HER ENERGY WITH COMEDY.

>> Renee: WE'LL SEE.

>> I JUST DON'T WANT TO HEAR TOUGH AS SHELL STUFF.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

IT IS PAINFUL AND I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT.

>> Renee: TALK ABOUT AG COMMISSIONERS, SHELL THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE.

>> CAN WE SAY SHELL NO I'M TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER THINGS.

>> Renee: YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO NEVER BEEN ON THE STAGE ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE BUDDY WHEATLY A FORMER STATE REPRESENTATIVE, SIERRA ENLOW.

WHEN YOU'RE NEW BRAND NEW, NEWLY MINTED THIS IS A TOUGH SOME PRESSURE IT'S NOT JUST THE MERCURY THAT IS HOT.

>> IT'S SOME PRESSURE BUT THEY ALL REALLY OF EITHER PARTY THEY ALL RISE TO MEET THE OCCASION.

THEY KNOW THE BIG "POLITICO"S ARE WATCHING AND FRANKLY THAT SIX-MINUTE TIME MARK IS YOUR FRIEND.

>> Renee: WHEN YOU GET DOWN BALLOT YOU DON'T GET SIX MINUTES.

YOU CUT YOU CONSIDERABLY.

THREE MINUTES.

>> SO THAT IS YOUR FRIEND BECAUSE YOU ARE HITTING THE HIGH POINTS YOU ARE DOING YOUR BEST ONE LINERS AND YOU ARE TRYING TO GET THE CROWD TO CHEER AND GETTING OUT OF THERE.

>> Renee: PEOPLE WILL SAY WHAT'S THE POINT?

YOU COME WITH YOUR REMARKS AND YOU READ THEM OR COMMITMENT THEM TO MEMORY, SO WHAT?

HOW DOES THAT PROVE THAT YOU ARE QUALIFIED TO HOLD THAT JOB.

>> IT IS A RITE OF PASSAGE.

>> Renee: WE GET THAT QUESTION A LOT WHAT'S THE POINT?

WE THINK THERE IS A POINT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN COVER TO GO FOR 20 YEARS.

>> THERE'S A NUMBER OF EVENTS WRAPPED AROUND FANCY FARM.

YOU HAVE THE GRAVE'S COUNTY BREAKFAST YOU HAVE A MARSHALL COUNTY DINNER.

IT'S REALLY SPECIAL REGIONALLY TO THAT AREA AS WELL TO HAVE SO MUCH ATTENTION ON THAT AREA OF THE STATE.

>> Renee: THAT IS WHAT WE CONSTANTLY HEAR THEY ARE ALWAYS IGNORED EXCEPT FOR THE FIRST WEEKEND IN AUGUST.

>> THE DAYS THE NIGHTS THE MORNINGS LEADING UP TO THE BREAKFAST IT'S STEEPED IN TRADITION.

AND LIKE WE KEEP SAYING ON OUR SIDE IT IS A TREMENDOUS HOMECOMING.

WE'RE SEEING INCREASED VOTERS REGISTRATION NUMBERS COUNTIES THAT ARE BEEN RULED BY DEMOCRATS AT THE MAGISTRATE LEVEL, COUNTY JUDGE EXECUTIVE WE'RE SEEING A RED TREND HERE.

FOR US, THESE EVENTS LEADING UP TO FANCY FARM IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO CONNECT AND SEE THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE OVER THE LAST FOUR, EIGHT, 12 YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN FAVORABLE TOWARDS REPUBLICANS.

>> Renee: IS IT A PITY PARTY WITH THE DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN LOSSES?

>> WE LEAD THE TOP OF THE TICKET I DON'T THINK IT IS A PITSY PARTY WHEN YOU ARE SITTING IN THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION THAT IS NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED OF OR HAVE A PITY PARTY ABOUT THAT.

AND WE HOPE TO PICK UP DOWN BALLOT RACES.

>> Renee: WHICH ONES DO YOU THINK YOU CAN PICK UP?

>> ALL OF THEM.

>> Renee: REALISTICALLY.

>> YOU KNEW WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY ALL OF THEM.

>> I THINK IT IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY.

>> I THINK ATTORNEY GENERAL IS COMPETITIVE I KNOW THE OTHER SIDE WOULD DISAGREE I THINK AUDITOR WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLY QUALIFIED CANDIDATE FOR AUDITOR.

DOWN BALLOT DOESN'T GET THAT MUCH ATTENTION BUT WE HAVE COMPETITIVE FOLKS ON THE BALLOT.

AND FANCY FARM IS ANOTHER GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO STAND UP AND HIGHLIGHT THEIR STUMP SPEECH AND THEIR PERSONALITY.

>> Renee: DID THEY RUN IT BY YOU?

>> I DID HELP LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR WRITE SOME OF HER JOKES IN 2019 BUT NOT THIS YEAR.

>> Renee: YOU GUYS HELP ANYBODY?

HELP ANY CANDIDATES WITH THEIR SPEECHES?

>> I AM A SPECTATOR THIS YEAR.

>> Renee: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SPECTATORS WHO ARE THE SPECTATORS WHO PARTICIPATE.

>> IT IS A SPECTRUM OF ACTIVISTS, PARTY FAITHFUL.

>> Renee: ARE THEY BUSED?

>> IT VARIES.

SOME CYCLES YOU SEE THE COORDINATED EFFORT PARTICULARLY WITH REPUBLICANS.

WE HAVE ROBUST SOPHISTICATED CHAPTERS, COUNTY PARTIES YOU NAME IT.

SO THEY DO TREAT THIS AS A POLITICAL RALLY.

THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF ORGANIZATION BUILDUP WHETHER YOU ARE COORDINATING SIGNS T-SHIRTS YOU NAME IT.

I'VE SEEN GROWTH DURING MY TIME.

COUNTY PARTIES TREAT THIS AS SUPER BOWL SUNDAY.

THERE IS A WHOLE EFFORT A LOT OF ENERGY LIKE I SAID THIS MAJOR HOMECOMING WHERE ALL THE PARTIES COME TOGETHER.

>> AND IT IS A UNITED SLATE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE WHICH.

>> Renee: IS IT?

>> I COULD TELL THE ANSWER.

>> Renee: OK. >> IT REALLY IS A COHESIVE GROUP THAT -- >> Renee: ON THE SLATE BUT MAYBE NOT ON THE SLATE IS NOT AS UNITED BEHIND WHO IS ON THE SLATE?

>> I WILL SAY RENEE KENTUCKY REPUBLICANS ARE UNITED HONESTLY.

>> Renee: THE ONES WHO LOST IN THE PRIMARY ARE THEY AS UNITED AS THE ONES ON THE SLATE TOP AND BOTTOM?

>> TALKING ABOUT RYAN QUARELS AND LEN PETERS AND KELLY CRAFT WHERE ARE THEY THERE THEY BE AT FANCY FARM.

>> I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I MEAN, LIKE.

>> IS KELLY CRAFT GOING TO BE THERE?

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT KELLY.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE SO HOT RENEE.

>> Renee: TO SHOW UNITY IF YOU WANT TO SHOW UNITY.

>> THAT IS RIGHT AFTER THE PRIMARY.

EVERYBODY'S ALREADY.

>> Renee: THAT EVENT WAS THE PERFORMANCE OF UNITY FOR THE PARTY.

>> WHAT HAPPENED?

>> EVERYONE HAD THEIR OWN PRIMARY.

>> YOU SAID AFTER THE PRIMARY EVERYBODY CAME TOGETHER I DIDN'T SEE THAT.

DID KELLY CRAFT SHOW UP AND SAY I'M FOR DANIEL CAMERON.

>> SHE PUT OUT A STATEMENT OF SUPPORT THE NEXT DAY AFTER THE PRIMARY.

>> I WILL HAVE TO REVISIT IT.

>> I WILL TWEET IT TO YOU.

>> RIGHT.

IS THAT WAS THAT THE SAME.

>> INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW.

>> SHE SAID SHE ENDORSED HIM.

>> SHE PUT OUT A LETTER OF SUPPORT.

>> DID SHE SAY I ENDORSE DANIEL CAMERON FOR GOVERNOR.

>> Renee: MAYBE PEOPLE EXPECT TO SEE THAT AT FANCY FARM.

>> YOU DON'T SEE ALL THE PRIMARY CANDIDATES AT FANCY FARM.

>> Renee: PLUGGED INTO THIS AS YOU ARE THEY MAY THINK YOU WILL HAVE THIS BIG DISPLAY OF SUPPORT.

BUT THAT IS NOT HOW THIS WORKS.

>> IT IS A BIG DISPLAY OF SUPPORT IT'S REGIONAL FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE, IT'S ALL AROUND.

>> Renee: RIGHT AND THE LOCAL STATE THE DELEGATION FROM WESTERN KENTUCKY THEY ARE ON THE ROSTER, RIGHT.

>> YOU DON'T GET DISTRICT FOLKS REPRESENTED.

>> RICHARD KEITH AND CONGRESSMAN JAMES COMER.

SO I MEAN OBVIOUSLY DOMINATED BY REPUBLICANS.

WE'LL HAVE A HEALTHY SHOWING OF CURRENT OFFICE HOLDERS.

ALL THE CANDIDATES THE PARTY RANK-AND-FILE YOU NAME IT.

EVERYONE THAT IS SORT OF MOBILIZED AND SUPPORTED THE ENTIRE SLATE WE WILL HAVE A TREMENDOUS TURNOUT FOR SATURDAY.

>> Renee: SAME?

>> SAME, OF COURSE.

HAVE YOU SEEN GOVERNOR BESHEAR'S TURNOUT ACROSS THE STATE IN WESTERN KENTUCKY IS NO EXCEPTION.

>> IN 2019 WE HAD THE LARGEST GROUND GAME IN KENTUCKY HISTORY AS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHICH INSURED GOVERNOR BESHEAR'S VICTORY AND YOU COULD SEE THE PEOPLE SHOWED UP TO FANCY FARM AS WELL.

WE EXPECT OUR KENTUCKIAN DEMOCRATIC CHAPTERS TO COME TOGETHER AND EXPECT PEOPLE FROM OUR WESTERN KENTUCKY PARTIES TO BE ACTIVATED.

>> THE ONES THAT AREN'T EXTINCT.

AMY McGRATH HAD THE GROUND GAME.

>> WE WILL WIN THIS ELECTION BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO SHOW UP.

THEY ARE WORKING HARD GOING DOOR-TO-DOOR.

THEY ARE PHONE BANKING AND TEXTING AND DOING EVERYTHING THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO TO INSURE ANOTHER BESHEAR VICTORY AND REPUBLICAN DEFEAT.

>> Renee: HOW MUCH STOCK DO YOU TAKE IN THE POLLS ONE POLL SAID THERE WAS A 10 POINT LEAD GOVERNOR BESHEAR OVER DANIEL CAMERON COMMISSIONED BY A ADVOCACY GROUP.

TAKE ANY STOCK IN THAT.

>> YOU CAN LOOK AT POLLS AND SEE TRENDS.

I THINK THAT THE TIME WHERE PEOPLE PUT ALL THEIR FAITH IN A POLL IS PROBABLY PAST US AFTER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

BUT I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT POLLS AND IDENTIFY TRENDS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST FEW POLLS IT'S CLEAR THAT DANIEL CAMERON IS CLOSING THE GAP WITH INCUMBENT ANDY BESHEAR AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE POWER OF THE INCUMBENCY AS WELL LOOKING AT POLLING.

>> ANOTHER MAJOR FACTOR IS VOTER TURNOUT.

DO WE HAVE SORT OF PREDICTIONS OF VOTER TURNOUT?

THE MOST RECENT FOUR CYCLES NOTABLE, KENTUCKY GUBERNATORIAL RACES ARE ALWAYS A OFF YEAR ONE OF THREE STATES SO THE ACTION IS UNUSUAL COMPARED TO OTHER GUBERNATORIAL RACES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

WITH SORT OF A LACK OF A FEDERAL RACE ON THE TICKET, SOMETIMES VOTER AWARENESS IS NOT THERE.

SOMETIMES I RUN INTO VOTERS AND I WILL VOTE FOR DANIEL CAMERON IN 24.

NO THERE IS AN ELECTION IN 23.

AND SO BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR BESHEAR IT'S 2024 THAT IS FINE.

BUT THE THING IS IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH THAT I LIKE DANIEL CAMERON.

IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH THAT SO AND SO LIKES ANDY BESHEAR IT'S ABOUT WHO IS SHOWING UP TO VOTE AND I WILL COMMEND SECRETARY MICHAEL ADAMS IN HELPING TO EDUCATE ALL KENTUCKY VOTERS ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES TO VOTE EARLY, ABSENTEE VOTING.

YOU WILL SEE ON ALL SIDES EFFORTS TO MOBILIZE VOTERS, MOBILIZE THEM EARLY AND FINDS WAY TO MOTIVATE THEM.

>> Renee: IT DIDN'T WORK FOR THE PRIMARY WITH WHAT.

>> PRIMARIES ARE HISTORICALLY LOW TURNOUT.

WHEN YOU COUNT BACK EVERY FOUR YEARS AND THERE IS A RACE ON THE TICKET AND THE CONSTITUTION AT OFFICERS VOTER TURNOUT HAS BEEN LOW I WISH WE WOULD DO BETTER BUT THAT IS THE NAME OF THE GAME.

IF I WAS A NEUTRAL PARTY TO THE GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATES IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH THAT YOU WERE LIKED AND HAVE SO AND SO'S YARD SIGN IT IS A MATTER OF WILL THAT PERSON TAKE THE EFFORT AND SHOW UP TO VOTE AND THAT WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.

INMAYBE ANOTHER LOW TURNOUT CYCLE.

>> Renee: WHAT IS GOING TO MOTIVATE THEM THIS YEAR?

THAT IS THE QUESTION.

WHAT ARE PEOPLE MOTIVATED BY?

YOU DO POLLING ON THAT TO KNOW THESE ARE THE ISSUES.

>> I THINK THIS IS THE TIME WHERE YOU START TO SEE CANDIDATES HONE IN ON THEIR MESSAGING.

ACROSS THE COUNTRY MOST PEOPLE WOULD LOOK AT SEPTEMBER OR LABOR DAY AS THE TIME WHEN YOU REALLY KICK INTO HIGH GEAR FOR A NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION.

BUT IN KENTUCKY IT IS FANCY FARM.

AND I THINK IN A RACE LIKE THIS WHERE WE ARE IN AN OFF YEAR, YOU ARE LOOKING AT PROBABLY $60 MILLION THAT WILL BE SPENT TOTAL.

FOR BOTH SIDES.

AND I THINK BOTH SIDES RIGHT NOW TOTAL IS 12 MILLION THERE IS STILL A LOT OUT THERE TO HAPPEN.

I THINK AFTER FANCY FARM EVERYBODY'S BEEN OUT THERE TESTING THEIR MESSAGES AFTER FANCY FARM YOU WILL START TO SEE CAMPAIGNS HONE IN ON THOSE.

>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR SOMEONE THEY TRUST SOMEONE THEY FEEL THEY KNOW AND HAVE A CONNECTION WITH AND I THINK GOVERNOR BESHEAR HAS DONE MORE THAN ADEQUATE JOB HE HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF LEADING KENTUCKY THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, LEADING KENTUCKY INTO AN ECONOMIC FUTURE THAT HAS SURPASSED AND BROKEN EVERY RECORD WE KNOW.

THAT HAS SHOWN UP FOR THEM TIME AND TIME AGAIN THROUGH NATURAL DISASTERS AND PEOPLE CONNECT WITH HIM.

PEOPLE WANT TO VOTE FOR SOMEBODY THEY WANT TO TRUST AND FEEL LIKE THEY CAN TRUST.

AND WHILE HE'S BUILDING THAT TRUST I THINK THEY WILL SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE A CANDIDATE THAT'S LITERALLY JUST TRYING TO DIVIDE US FROM EACH OTHER.

>> Renee: I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ASKING THEMSELVES, WILL RACE BE A FACTOR IN THIS GUBERNATORIAL CONTEST?

>> I HOPE NOT.

I HOPE NOT.

I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT REGARDING WHAT ARE THE TOP ISSUES IMPACTING KENTUCKY FAMILIES AND WE TALK ABOUT FAMILY VALUES WE TALK ABOUT PARENTAL CHOICE I DON'T WANT TO GLOSS OVER THESE THINGS.

THERE IS A REASON THAT REPUBLICANS UP AND DOWN THE TICKET AND THROUGHOUT THE LEGISLATURE THEY ARE FOCUSING ON BECAUSE CONSTITUENTS ARE RAISING THE ISSUE.

I REALLY HOPE THAT THERE IS A FOCUS ON WHAT IMPACTS WHAT KEEPS PARENTS UP AT NIGHT.

IS IT WHAT IS BEING TAUGHT IN SCHOOL?

ABOUT HAVING THE CHOICE TO SEND MY KID WHERE I WANT TO SEND THEM.

ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS BEING SPENT RESPONSIBLY WHAT ARE THE CANDIDATES DOING TO COMMIT I CAN KEEP MORE MONEY AND HAVE SOME CONTROL MORE INVOLVEMENT IN WHAT MY CHILDREN ARE BEING TAUGHT IN SCHOOL AND WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF KENTUCKY?

LIKE WHAT DO WE HOLD DEAR.

I REALLY HOPE THAT IS THE SUBSTANCE OF ALL THE CANDIDATES AND THE OUTSIDE GROUPS.

BUT I MEAN WE'LL SEE.

IF IT'S AN ISSUE, I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE CAMERON CAMPAIGN WILL HIT HARD AGAINST THAT.

>> Renee: HE DID WIN ONE STATE-WIDE ELECTION.

>> BATTLE TESTED.

>> Renee: WE'LL SEE BUT THAT IS A QUESTION THAT WE'LL READ ABOUT THIS TIME.

WITH FOUR MINUTES LEFT A LITTLE BIT MORE WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED.

[ALL TALKING AT ONCE] PARSY STONE WANTS TO KNOW WHO WOULD THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CHOOSE TO REPLACE MITCH McCONNELL IF HE WERE TO STEP DOWN BEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION?

>> FUNNY YOU SHOULD ASK THERE IS AN ENTIRE PROCESS THAT I BELIEVE JUST HAD TO GO BACK THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE THIS PAST YEAR MAYBE THE YEAR BEFORE.

>> Renee: 2021 IS WHEN THEY PASSED A LAW.

>> 2021.

I BELIEVE THE PROCESS IS THAT THE STATE PARTY COMES UP WITH A LIST OF THREE NAMES.

THE THREE NAMES GO BEFORE THE GOVERNOR AND THE GOVERNOR CHOOSES WHICH NAME AS THE NOMINEE.

>> Renee: SO IF YOU COULD GUESS THREE NAMES?

THE QUESTION IS, I DIDN'T ASK ABOUT THE PROCESS BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> I WANTED TO EDUCATE THE VIEWERS.

>> WHAT KENTUCKY REPUBLICANS CAN BENEFIT FROM IN THAT PROCESS IS A DEEP BENCH, SO KENTUCKY REPUBLICANS REALLY UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF LEADER MITCH McCONNELL, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP, RECRUIT AND HAVE EXPERIENCED REPUBLICANS AT THE JUMP.

SO IF THAT PROCESS WERE TO EVER TAKE PLACE, I AM CONFIDENT THAT REPUBLICAN PARTY OF KENTUCKY WOULD PURSUE AN AGGRESSIVE PROCESS VET AND SEE WHO CAN EARN THE MOST SUPPORT.

WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM AS A PARTY IS REALLY TO HAVE THAT UNITY.

THAT WILL BE A THEME WHENEVER THAT PROCESS IS APPLIED.

BUT WE HAVE OPTIONS.

IF IT WAS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, NOT -- >> Renee: DANIEL CAMERON HASN'T BEEN EXPLICIT IN HIS RESPONSE TO WHETHER OR NOT HE WOULD STILL STAY IN THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION?

>> LET'S NOT PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE HE IS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR.

>> Renee: MANY PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW IF THE AMBITION IS WASHINGTON.

>> I AGREE.

I DON'T QUITE FRANKLY, I'M NOT SURE OF THE TASTE FULLNESS LEVEL TO TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE WE HAVE A FULL PICTURE OF SENATOR McCONNELL'S HEALTH WE DON'T WANT TO PUT HIM IN THE GRAVE BEFORE HE IS THERE.

LOOK IT IS A PROCESS.

IS IT THE BEST PROCESS?

PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE I THINK THE VOTERS SHOULD HAVE A SAY WHO REPRESENTS THEM IN WASHINGTON.

>> AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE LAST WE HEAR OF THIS.

THE GOVERNOR CAN CHALLENGE THAT 2021 LAW?

>> CORRECT.

AS WILL SAID WE HOPE THAT LEADER McCONNELL IS OK. AND THAT HE SERVES HIS TERM AND MAKES THE BEST DECISION FOR HIMSELF AND HIS HEALTH.

IT'S A PROCESS AGAIN.

IS IT THE BEST PROCESS?

NO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE VOTERS MORE INVOLVED BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

>> RENEE I HAVE AN IDEA WHO IT WILL BE.

>> Renee: OK. >> IT'S GOING TO BE WHOEVER THE NEW SENATOR WILL BE WILL BE SOMEONE THAT HAS ACTIVELY AGAINST WOMEN BEING ABLE TO MAKE HEALTHCARE DECISIONS THEY WILL BE ACTIVELY AGAINST PARENTS HAVING THE RIGHT TO SEEK HEALTHCARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

THEY WILL ACTIVELY TRY TO DISRUPT COMMON SENSE GOVERNMENT TO CHASE CULTURE WAR VALUES THAT DO NOTHING TO HELP ANYONE.

THAT IS WHO THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE OR NEW CANDIDATE OR NEW SENATOR WILL BE.

IF THE REPUBLICANS GET TO PICK.

THEY TOOK THIS ACTUAL RESPONSIBILITY AWAY FROM THE GOVERNOR BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID OF ANDY BESHEAR AGAIN MAKING A GOOD COMMON SENSE APPOINTMENT AND SOMEBODY THAT WILL WORK FOR ALL KENTUCKIANS.

KENTUCKY LIKE MARK TWAIN SAID I HOPE I'M IN KENTUCKY WHEN THE WORLD ENDS BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS 20 YEARS BEHIND AND WE'LL PROBABLY STAY THAT WAY ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL REFUSING FEDERAL DOLLARS, REFUSING PROJECTS THAT COULD BE FUNDED BECAUSE THIS IS THE WAY OF THE NATIONAL G.O.P.

>> Renee: WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.

THERE WILL BE MORE WORDS THAT WE'LL HAVE ABOUT THIS FAN WE HAVE GOT THAT COVERED.

IT'S THIS SATURDAY.

BUT WE WILL BE IN WESTERN KENTUCKY STARTING TOMORROW.

WE WILL BE REPORTING FROM FANCY FARM MOST OF THIS WEEK FOR KENTUCKY EDITION THAT IS 6:30 EASTERN 5:30 CENTRAL.

"COMMENT ON KENTUCKY" WILL BE FROM FANCY FARM FRIDAY LIVE AT 8:00 P.M. 7 CENTRAL AND SATURDAY ALL THE FUN BEGINS.

KET HAS EXCLUSIVELY BEGINNING AT 2:30 EASTERN ONE 30 CENTRAL WE'VE GOT YOU COVERED.

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