>> o 's>> todayll show.

We' talk to n a Lexingto Hman.ge's workin to gets ore fathergeengad in the livehiof their creldn.

And tht later anaa fincial literajo duo will s in uto ta w about howcae all n bey- mone'swise.

That o nownco onnnectis.♪ ♪an Thjok you for g ininus for onthis editiCO of NNECTIONSDA TOeeY.

I'm Renw.

Sha First i stopt n the firsensegmt of our showedWe're joinDa by vid Coast whard heo was the ad or the CCemonwealth fnter Fathers mid Fahelies.

And 'sgo toing s talk to uabout how to getthore faers, trticularlyrehose who aca innvrcerated id olvein theve li cs of theirrehildn.

tWe're gladtoo welcome the ofset ns connectio.

DavidKo s sar, who ichthe iefsi viceonary offir of themm Coenonwealth Cthter for Faersan mid Fa tlies.

Goodo seevi Daood.

Gyid to be sang.

lwWe aouays have y on like around Fs her'?Day, right onu've been with Ted St wighter who as in .

Louisville rThat was ayeallod go i andstt's intereing about c thisr ente aand you'velways done worndaround fathers a making sy e that thewerein a cluded as l vitaepart of th fahyly unit.

Wo is that s import yt totou and wha helprs the fathe need?

>> Welrt it's impotoant mebe e causd fathers anto go to faa healthy esmilie, which ar bethe fiunrs of commities.An ikd I feel late th if we ambuttress fs,ilieo we have tcl ins,ude fatherin an fcrease ofa ngtherhood eenagemt and then tturniehose famils makero stnger >>e hat are thtissues tha re you' t trying toonake with your center?>> e So ththCommonweal Center s for FatherFaand miliesrs unde ttanddehe statewi andth isose besues will of some the same whings thatmbe Nuer Hcal level.thowever, wit thain being a state tiitia ve ise' thervis obcyously polivo adwecacy that t wanto do e thericis a technssal aistance siand increaheng t capacity for se aicesstcross the ate where s ere'fa dearth o rv seatices for friher's ght.

t> As ou just ab incarcerated fathers or wh r othes populationare you tryingo reach?

>> Absolusely not.

Jout abt ghcarcerated fouhers, alth thorat's a majop pulation becaKee we know hntucky hig percentaars of its pents Andso or we we unftetunaly fadserhood ten to be nysynoinmous with n.carceratio Ho e'wever, w fre workingathers t inomhe ct munity alarge.

tAny fatherbahat has a rrrie to him bt ng tha tbest dadhat oe can se so we're teeking work wfah any juther, not st rc incaederat.

fathers >> Do ndu fi h that it'sard for fathfos to come d rwarandy saulI co hd use yourelp?

a Yes, likeny other thchallenge ouat y or I haveit rt.

Paal of the chlenge isno int beadg able to mit and acknowsldge that iabands c soand .

it can beyBut the wa the modeatthat we th we soinfluence ee that we sk to to atreplicele is a mod in which we're att looking he fatrs aspa f rt om.the proble We're tlooking at the assets,onhen et ofhihe t hngs that I ave learned from a goofriend ofmi u'ne that yoeell s usss meetaging is sl wilnever lwill neverplook at peoe aseq wuals untiloke lo at them assets.

heAnd so fatrers a in factse asSots.

e that's thapproach w that te'veItaken.

tends toaw drit a l. tle betterYeah.

>> So helk about tel modt tha you're uh ng to reac men.

Yeah.

>> So ale Commonweth Center Fa for fathers and smilies, it missioriis pmarily to thpropagate fe notion o er fathemhood engagacent ross st the atcke of Kentuy.

And as eesuch, we ndid to be a rect ic servlie dethverer for e mostpa bert will seekeking to ma atcertain tht every parofnt Key ucky, evererfath and y everlyfamiuc in Kentky.Ha whs a place cere they an geter fath, hoodengagement assistrece the w forlle wi bein seek hg tot elp outposSpring go u b We'lle ceding ogfferent prrams and differencrprojects athoss est whate maere there .y be a gap We'll prcaide technil asansist pce to willerovide som enhaprement and ofessional endevelopmagt for tencies tha anmay exist ved hant a compone at of f wherhood ore ish to hava ofcomponent re our who a thoseci agenndes a tonhat all es that are estential ond that woul ng>> e fage in theatherhood.

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Suree Thersothere are me ci agenhaes t lt over theast decadeowave you knmp, ju ing on boah wit othe notionf fatherngod eagement.

ve>> Prebunt child a se.uc Kents ky iramong 9 pe pavener.

They' done a jowonderful lyb and reale wer aroundibn the vest ule of fpushing itrdorwany with ma Tyears ago.omhere are se hhealth andceuman servi tegranthes across e state, KentuckyHiiver Foot lls, teinway Mountart com, nohernKe muntucky Com Anityction Council.hout tntse are gra wended what g 're seekinto ando is we wset every ndctor a gyevery agenn wheinthey're do thc r strategioplanning tk, ast what aboufathe ther anden why the qasked thatuestion,th otey may nre have the sources te the insights totunsti somethintlrighofy because otheir lackowf knledge.

That'somhere the CeamonwlthCe atnter for F aherssnd familie d would come in anatprovide thof prevessional dmeelopnt andai tricning technssal aistance,re cesourtss, tool ki and inor emder for thha to ve a faerhood.

es>> What dood father Ho herth fameer, engageoont lk like?

orDescribe fpt us what oimally that wouit be.

For whin thefa n mily withi.the family >> Well, it it'set's what w .

knowitIt's that 's not y necessarilrsthe cleavese the days, riert whe a dad's coming h 0e at a5:00:07PM,nd inputtd g the speersand slippe and gettpag a tper handedom hig and waitinisfor bakedic ch Mken.toashed potaes, a newspautr, bat it is a fher that it'present.

Is a fatherat thei is rther eithe physicalr present oises prsyident and bmbolecause he's aoray fof a number as re Mons.cailitary inrceration treatmenga father enntgeme fis a iather thats bucontrionting emotially andec aonomicallyy nd sociallto that famd y anicpartularly toheil to his chigdren rht?

or >> Fom perhaps wnden a ermothwhs who say ery have a vy vestedasn valid reoron f whyI o wish not tathave the fher owengaged.

Hid do you brhage tt kind oonconversatido or you?

ht>> All rig w. So whereerewe Pr move in?

ilimary familyse orrvice secthes?

W re isar primfeily atmale domined and an led md caseananagers d th healy and familicserves.

You reve to be ppared to address auat becse it's legitiAnte.

d Ryan and trac sd inthtate of faerhood, on trainWeg series.

a did repeat tg ininteof her sta ofnd miic, wh ah engaging re femalendengaging arh fatheood en sehancement trvices.

Sohat o e answer tatthat is th er mothn s have beearpills in the abserse of fathe andth mosoers are ale gatkeepersd an smany Situations.o what we ltseekvio do as ci corearenting, s lationshipandse caths where mothers and faers noare .

t togetherdYou starte imf by legits.ate reasonAn e d there arimat tesle eagitimate r wsonshen these 'tadults done need to b geengatid in an inmate .

lationshipthBut there eyca ngn be eciaged in a vil relati sshipy afeland did stanceitwhen need and worko ergeth o on behalff the e ild.

You'vayheard me s re befold I say chiwiren ll befi onne if n e for growfolks.

soAnd we ttry toeach grown foors how to w.k togetherli Posoce know alt thaany good anconscious omd pr isingti prac fcingatherhoodga enntgemero program pjectas ilsistance wcll inude domestpa violence rsrtne to be ablddto a iress thosessues when timy're legitate.

ec >> Bt'ause thaats wh I often hee from thoswho are .

vaccinatedncYou are coderne icout reunifthation, wheter i d may be goor to that fotheil chchd and the haild s been rmunhae ed.

But thr,the partne th e hfemalen as not beethatpe e rhaps thers needto be a f thinking ohow muchen megagethnt that faer has.

>> Ybsolutely..ou have to hau have to thve all of ose es profalsion ts engaged.

his Cmmonwealthfaenter for stheran mid facolies will ntinue to haveDNn its alA. What's ways been iNAmy D t andmyhen orth agency af creativeygenc of sortseaElection Lhidersp Fo whundation, ich just collaborlaion in coltiboraon eswith domcetic violenrt paabners, colliooratn is what substaare misuse p.tners kindCo n llaboratioitis wh justice sy oems.

Those tf the wayshat lpyou here add sss thoseorts of rlissues.

Daoning Thomps Rittenho le 17rearned dea ndfrievo and an adiscate of th work in me normal tis outnu an wally, meetheith r or she ne traiafd stacf and in ft, will enlist hwo and this ovrk ming h.ahead.

Yea >> How dou y mm ove it froa l locainLexington tiitiave to bendtatewide as what watheas reugon you thow ht, OK, nois o the time t Ado that.end her acare the plhees wre we can make se ground.

>> Yeah,.

t wasn'tDavid move.

It was dy inelsomoved and in llrking locacay and beuseth ere.

>> Are dot a greateal fatherceod serviurs in o state.

i>> Nowhereims the sentofent th faagerhood engtemen llautomaticaery consided are standas ized acrossI've alway worked w th atevhe state lel d inhioing tThs work.

ere have ebeen statehafforts to vefa oatherhood cr litions foovera e decade mer2 decades.An n d I've beegeengad in those s ings and as far back aIin th09k 20s , there waa Kentuckyrhatheatood and th veevolotd.

We've g we've got soesme resourc from somede fes ral sourceo to dsome gistrate ac planningroundth faoderhors sme 4 yea ago.

yAnd then 3, ears agowe we st reineditut are.

Rea vitalized statewide uc Kentatky Fmmherhood Su it.

thd so from onat moment , we actuaary chtered orco inatrpora ed in got 5, 0, C one,or 3 fnw the Commo ealth FCenter for Farmers andieamilsw son e caitestablish andst sundain that ap keeit moving ahead.

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>> Is tho e a need t have aon Comm Cwealthmoenter for thersan ?d families>> d So I wouly sathaty' therery vest is a syprem of ojects ogd prssrams and ancistaeth s at iaiprimarily med atth mo Iers.r n fact, oufamilyse srvices, weamay filies.

But here ftoo,or really hasn'te ncluded thpaternal e side of th pas aecrimary objt of sery ce deliveror a mitigaof or a roar rm deteifinant of ltce oufomes o childrenedeally look at the rn mateals side.

Thitby no faul of anyridy necessas ly ijust ishappened hcatorilly so the probleCocould the mmonwealth fCenter for fathers andamilieso ates not nege mothers.

Fathers ard mothers te no contrarctory thei complimey arand so we'llpr e ovidhaservices tt addressal il of thesessues and a I want toutsk you abo D I diitrsity, equmay and and ny s timeiain the socl service sectors itd inatiatives th frcome stem haom batter omve se ,lcross sexuduity with eoncati criminalceusti o, D I kindf s comereup.

Is theor a place f i that yn the worko,ou d or isve it endn fu tamental tohe worku yodo?

>> The lfuter.

It's enndamtal to theweork u' do.

If yore seing to do t rvices thaaremo ecst effu tive, yohave toil taheor it to tat populions we and w knos populationthat ize marginalteed for whaver cereason, raco or socioe nomic ste atus.

Therheare some tre.

There ar asomeiodditthnal ere are co. ound tIt impactsheyve hang on anythih witwith any pa fthogen andabather sence is ntno differe w. Itikill look le anthat Africri-Amescan father bsare more athent an their llers.

Actua'sy, there emergion informatit thasaysey thow're not, h tever, thathe wahein which tedy're engag isno ect always rzeogni, right?

d Sothoes n at measo if they're notit cohabitathng with moer baof in cases multiple partneli fertiilty.

It wl wlook wherehehere a fatsr ha leltipld chitiren by mulple Tmothers.here are.

Situatioic in wherh the fathis ll stith engage wi those chaydren but m h notave that ongoinelintimate rnsatiohip with thethothers of e childrenwiAnd so it ooll lk celike absen in that anditioncaly, Afriicn-Amer fathers cae intrcerated a erhigh i rates andonncarceratiis ab a Father e sencand so but what shodies are s twinghe , lyiderfathals are actu enh ged as mucanor more thth ereir pe ss dotipend more me mehave more heals with tir hachildren tern their pes.

we And ly're actualen be gaged omin sdue of the ecational process eire than therr pes.

we But ck're not pithing at up because he some of tse biad iwaysn which we >> so doere th you hope atth enis cndter goes a expands?

Yothmentioned se location e wher gyou reallyotten some tracti a.

Is thereir dese to heve west?

Trty're or fuher.

Northear Kentucky wne do in the Sonth Cekyral Kentuc area.

laat's the pn?

>> Ther ette tway to puthat remay be whekn we tow we don've haqu to focus asite much isbecause thri resource ch.An had that's w wt weould call Tthe Goldenghriangle rit?Ri neght llxt Louisvi e to a henorty.rn Kentuck However, ilwe wtel provide chnicalsi ascestan p have beenngrovidi technicastassiosance in the s. areaI If mewere to na a ri prioe ty area, w twant o makeai inrt'sn ite a presenc eakyern Kentucre where the Weare gaps.

op're ioids miss substance miasse is pervive.

atBecause whs we know ithat rswhen fatheed are engagh wit lack hiolthy relatpsnshi with r thei tfamily and heir eiildren, ththr self-wor inei thndr self stati a sng s is iecincrease batause of th ge engaelment.

It h tpshem with r theis recovery awell.

So alwe're actuo ly going tbe hoexploring olw we can mdge toh-ther, faitdbase s,ganizationsu opioid mise odd fatherhort, paicularly and sost of our eaernKe tentucky staw.s no But we twantcro be all aoss the state.

Wkewant to mae sur everyo a hashaccess on wt iwe know tojus and not nst i ucstern Kenterky, but the's.

>> 720ho000 kids w't don have eith p tarent thatrehey'li wvingdpith a granarent or r neighbor or a cousin owhat they calivFicthte can.

Rig.

So wheouwe talk abtht faer,we lo thank biol.gicae But if th ogbiolr ical fatheis not ine thicphysoral space f whateverre aason, what tbouthe engagef nt oall cullsgr aandfathershond tese that ar hemaybe on tip perathery or thil ch td isrehey' thiabnking out gi enga tng them infahat therly role.

>> Yea h youThave to be e evolutioamof fily ioconstellathans tt we'rese e eing in thd worlreally.

coAnd so in t ntexof father aod, how wessddre thatnd is at whaarwe advise ound that iheis wn you're thinvolving the father, e atological filher, you wl about soe fall.

Alol invved apa alternhe side of t family to whfth is oen a ngain, it'sot e ere becauswe're not addres sng the Ando we relegatethurself to ete maparnal grands rent and aternt.

aun's And there whide nother s te.

I mean,hat e thesregrannies a Grammys, whm her his mo dwas mom orad, hioigranting gng to be r granted foAnthat job.

d grandpa rit short shr ft oI a get s grant pollndarou grandma.gne not reco aizess hevotal as t grannies.

pa And that e ternal sidis ly real e theatmphasis th we enve here whgi gau ng theog biolr,ical fathe a youlso lehave a who nother.

>> Side to the tree si conder ght.

>> wow is yourayork?

I'd s eunded, , t you knowarhow you able wo dohat you'redo ining as these are that are andesperate edd ne thatge enga?ment >> Surgr That's a eat ti quesWeon.

ek.

We're ngcontkiuously see su wainabilityhere an emergingn rganizatiouris o first yefo of being rmalize 0 5,e,, one C 3.

We'rblessed hrrently toave some resouriss.

That where al actutrly sub conacting througenprevust child abe,Ke atntucky.

Thes com from the tecan ultimaroly comes fem thbi CaHenet for ndalth a Familyrv Se wicestaere in conct when utwe're in cmu comnications with tor Cabinet flt Heah and Fas.ly Servicere We' in the Co Dunicationstmepar ent for inupme sd port, chil to be ioborn occasucns with ednatio co and Frrections.seolks becau er fatheshood cross t allhe sectors et help us gs a staying llnding.

We' beok loering at fedstal grant, ate ocants and leral and oth da founs tiong.for fundin mo>> And so s therveand who ha ldshared chiwiren rth a fatheo whotis nul engage wo d say, t well, firsstof all, jue mak y re I get m tchild.

Andhen weo an talk.

Su what do yosayto e the to thn,woma to theth mohoer w c says if Ian just higet cim to finan ally tntributingshhe way he ,ould w thenn e ca htalk aboutow what l leveenof engagem ct hean havebe yond that?

>> Yeah,ld wouto ask them as emk thhe selves.

T real oequestion doss this.

Thoe wh o lovetuur sowff, you kn, help ch the iild bettere s ththe io emott nal supporof the economha support teat brk es cyclng of challen es iour familiesanAnd ald I would so the lull souldeay that th istherr aying theid chil actuallyonot contingent up suthe child , pport.

Nowerdiaps wipes t'rmula.

Tha is anssue t righosnow.

Our conts mey, ceverything sosts money eems like fe ks are morand more proud ofthhat ding.

So weo e not say thomecon iic supports .

t an issueacIn ft, inside baalball, we cetl pr ty strongou demand abint beges pricent econom.

allyRight.Ho cawever, in thses where er e has coonromised ecsomically a seanybody elmo or lre.

We tel the that theralis still vue anstill are h asset wityourpr yoesence in hiur cld, loving a child,youpporting hiur cld,ki taldng the chice to practibe ating th school wi yourd, chilng goi w to churchith thher child.

Tngse are thisat thlu are as va aables the alfischa element tt we tend zeto emphasi.

Yeah.

>> Welnk thad you, Davi Cooort for sch tling us onhe Common CalthFaenter for thers faand d milies.

Anwe'll bell fo powing youresrogr s and o bestckf lund to you.

A Happyth Fao er's Day tyou.>> v Thank youmuery ch.

And Iap iaprecntte your coinued d support annsuncos.ciouYe asah, my plewiure.

Stay th.

usmoWe've got onre cnections umingp.

ha>> Well, t snk you forticking aroundnnor more coonectis from fatinrhood to falanci 'rteracy.

Wehae glad to ve a o dynamic duhowith Das w are hopinglyo realg help youn opeople andhethers in t comminity in Lexgton and g surroundinetareas be bter t aboulifinancial cytera.We gl're oiad to be j ned by BoBeverly s wens who ienpresidt and CEg of BuildinBetter Financia ASolutions.alnd De Mo pan, who isndresident a ndCEO of FouLLation.

47 C. Thotks you bg h for beinhere.

yoThank ouu.

Thank yg for havin ahme.

Yeyo.

Well, 'ru know, weea a lking e lot thesdays about o e we can mak gyour money further,e ow wtcan make iwo wirk for us pth the gasrices be y ing as thenoare, you kw, savinge ay not bd.top of min Right norl Miss Beveopy pelear Ie thinkingpe'm s ndingyt ever Ihinga have and lot of usussst for neceities.

Whea are you ltrning abou what thenoommunity krws oes dohen't know w cn itomes to buildiir they capacitforal wendth a savings.

I>> A greatjut's st beenaz amoving e er the timthat I'vest d artetgin the morage 20ye ndars ago.

AI as continue c toiohampivn with indiduals ansafamilies, me kind of passiojuis people onst d'tkn eyow how monha They eve littl to no ndundation a the bulkof ec that is bnoause it's tta hought in scol.

imAnd oftenttaes I even ller in ho the t me.

So whasyou find i liople have rmmited infonatio mewhen it cocis to finanalte li sracye o they makdecisions se bathd on what ey know.

t So it can' ffault themorth cat.

So then ommothread out thnotice whet er i has nore disciepancs s per se inot t justhehe poor.

Tn'y dot owemo njney.

His iisury and eryb wody out soell that don'anowe money ind that comgro thulugh, it woad be that leck of knowyidge out sangey the don't havuna fodation.

And thab will probe ly bthe key pave.

Don't li ondg buigets.

All rSoht.

they'llve ha't about done hava budget.Do han't geve an emerncy fund.

e d they havh a town sucas COVID any that reallmakes abi pag imonct.

Most hest in thebe e caus kthey don'tnow how tond hahale tp t next stebecause thla have no p,n in place t?

righac So that l pk oflanningul wo td beeahe key thrd thatth seat I'd to nde.

Ag now havin that wriuden baiget, you sd 's thator impsetant becau a lot juof people avst hp e it uhere.

But I han't hve it down ere, e ght?

You're saying haviton paploer and folw it.

Head on papt..

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YeahnAnd you ca k twea Sas you go.thome ings will comoff.

no>> You addthf the new oings and makie surt that athe end ha of tdgt buatet that th is notne a tgative.

So'shere negativeneYou aced to go bk to thioftop et that budg and sa Iy what cane could havthis nt mo dh?

Yeah, Ion't have enoughalight?

So Dhee, wnyo ouu think ab It Kuz,u know yo ta olk a lotopf young pele.Ar n e they evengthinki about savi and pr>> how to thepare for eirfu thture?

Are usey j t in spendtmoift de?

t >> I'shink thereto just get spend mor a e,ment.

Rene at loy'of us.

Thenkre not thiing inout budgetlyg in Bever.nd Kine of mentio wd ithen sheta alked tbout me, a own in Ischool.

Asac reflect b mk toy K throerh 12 expasience, I w tonot g ld anythinabout nc finaliial yteracy, an tifinancial ores matterctf fa, when I gh duated higschool, k.ve neeer soon a checkb I baow how to lance a Icheckbook.wan fast forrd to n my freshma iyearn college, gn I sifoed up arr credit cdju o st tfrreceive a Tee-shirt, right?

RAnht.

ed I got th f T-shirt ane it could b opart a at abor 3 o4 hours.m I' tbackaro credit cd frome thnd5 hours.

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And I a dn't make payment orcritical f 8 years.

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upd it came againla Liter on in 8 fe.

sfor 8 year Ilater whene was at thtableyi tr cng to comeomloser to he.

ig >> Rseht.

So theve things halo nsng-term concequees aboutho t.w to budges So what iityo inu're teacheng wh you talk to kisids, what e it?

You'r telling Teem?

inll me 3 thgs.

te You hell t Tm.heng first thi I try is do an try to chge r theisemindnet about moygh rihat?

Cadnge what h a view that monal in into vhaue t money asanell ted understad time val of money.

T >>thhe second toing I try teach imem is the fportance ott seeting a budgau becse find afi iananc Tl anxiety.he real thing anday rid our expe ence Wh like it.

n en you wheyouex fperience af an oJames i,Addyas your fanthty that rig?

riAll oght.

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th is second tItng.

to still is ac tually.tt Seuping st and underandve adrtising tactics stght?

Underand.I walways sayyohen u see the commere al, you sethe enadvertisemimt, the ultate heal of ale commerci t and task is ar sepomate you fr m your.

oneystHe's underating the tactics e petoople used rasepam te you froyour Yeah.

ha>> Toot's some gd points.

fYeah.

Soeoor those pople whar ae thinking mbout aybe ttey're a lildle oeer.

They'v e been in thfoworkforce 25r 20ar ye ns in thereearing retireme.

I homean, how w s soononhould somee prepare re for Ohtirement?

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, myThat's a greaBequestion.

ecaus melami t name with hat cothound in oue money.

You sharld start eitly w h thet firsrijob cght out ofollege.

If the pngson is goi toco e,lleg o I'm goingn a high scol.

ec>> B cause moneyveompounds or the time valuof money, you'reiloing to buurd yo enwealth, evyo if u just say been som.

hingyoEven when ust art pan out andyose so man 'mthat Io talking tthat youin brtig a renyrement.

Ma don't have aouan yos make up lt ndgrou50 here?

45 and you ha dn't reallyt one a greajobof es invyoting.

But u're utinking abont, you I wa tore atiret 65. e >> And livy.comfortabl yoCan elu do it?

Wel, you hav to do sots strategisth on at onhioff some ttings that sllpo lessib c that thisan take a littlearit habder, more out to getdot ne s. But it'still possibleo>> ch catat up and th some tgovernment things thatlehey t you ge osomeesf the rais.

o Somer f the othetscoun then ex put motra igney is assned, toyou know, ca then you arn st save in t great amount.

Buthe hething is ty onlyou starte th ybetter offe.ou gonna b t Soiche key adv te iso startrl eahey.

So by te timto time u comes, yoblwould be ae o have that.pportunity Bu tit's neverigoo late, rht?

I Sohe went to tut mine we havema reo ining.

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