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>> 65 ON WEDNESDAY, SNOW ON THE GROUND TOMORROW MORNING.

WELCOME TO ST. LOUIS.

WINTER IN 2024.

THERE ISN'T GLOBAL WARMING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

ALVIN REID SITTING IN FOR CHARLIE BRENNAN.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT ON "DONNYBROOK".

INTRODUCING WE SAIDY WIESE FROM KTRS.

AND JOE HOLLEMAN FROM BILL MCCLELLAN.

AND .. HARTMANN, WRITES A COLUMN WITH SUBSTACK.

AND .. RIVERFRONT TIMES.

JOY TURNED TO SORROW REAL QUICK IN KANSAS CITY.

WHAT WAS A FESTIVE OCCASION LEFT ONE WOMAN DEAD AND A YOUNG LADY WHO WORKED FOR THE EQUIVALENT OF KDHX.

KANSAS C..

WOUNDED, INCLUDING UP TO 11 CHILDREN.

AND JUST A HORRIBLE SITUATION.

WHAT DO YOU THINK SOME ALL KINDS OF RESPONSE FROM OUR SIDE OF THE STATE AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, TOO.

>> HORRI.. KANSAS CITY DESERVES BETTER, CHIEFS FANS, CHIEFS DESERVE BETTER.

IT'S WHO WE ..

THE CYCLE, OF COURSE OF BOTH SIDES TAKING THE STORY AND TRYING TO FOLLOW THEIR OWN NARRATIVE.

I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT THINKS IF YOU HAVE A HORRIFIC ACT OF GUN VIOLENCE, THAT IS ONE THAT REALLY LEAVES A MARK THAT PEOPLE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT FOR FUTURE SUPER BOWLS AND SO FORTH.

IT IS A GOOD TIME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE, BUT MY SUBSTACK BUSTED THE MISSOURI CONSERVATIVE CAUCUS, WHICH ACTUALLY RETWEETED COMPLETE FALSEHOODS CLAIMING THERE WAS AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT INVOLVED.

IT'S A GUY WHOSE NAM..

PREVIOUSLY AND OTHER ONES.

THEY HAVE TAKEN IT DOWN SINCE, AND I DID A SCREEN SHOT.

BUT THE POINT BEING THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO MAKE THIS OF COURSE ABOUT CRIME AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND NOT ABOUT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT GUNS.

I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO THINKS WHILE THIS PARTICULAR ACT WOULDN'T BE AVERTED BY ANY PARTICULAR GUN LAW, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE BECAUSE WE HAVE ALMOST A HALF BILLION GUNS IN THIS COUNTRY.

HAVING SAID THAT, IT'S A HORRIBLE THING FOR FOLKS IN KANSAS CITY.

>>..

ALONG WITH THE SADNESS OF THE EVENT.

BUT THE POINT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE MADE ASIDE FROM THE TWO PARTIES MAKING IT ABOUT THEIR SPECIFIC ARGUMENT IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS INDEED A REASON THIS HAPPENED.

IF WE FORGET THE FACT THAT WHAT IT IS IS THAT WE HAD ONE OR TWO PEOPLE AT AN EVENT WHO FOUND IT SOMEBODY SOMEWHAT ACCEPTABLE TO NOT ONLY BRING GUNS BUT IN A GROWDED GROUP, CAN YOU INCLUDING CHILDREN AND BRING IT OUT AND ENGAGE IN A GUN FIGHT.

IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

THERE WERE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT WHY NOT START A GUN FIGHT IN A CROWDED AREA WITH A BUNCH OF KIDS.

>> WITH 800 PLUS POLICE OFFICERS.

WE A..

CONFERENCES WITH THE MAYOR AND THE POLICE CHIEF AND THEY THOUGHT, THEY WERE SURE THAT THEY HAD DONE EVERYTHING CORRECTLY.

THEY.. CHECKLIST.

I TH..

CONCERNED ABOUT ONE OF THE PLAYERS DRINKING TOO MANY BUD WISERBUDWEISERS AND FALLING OFF THE TOP OF THE BUS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE NEEDED TO WORRY ABOUT AT ALL.

>> I THINK OKAY, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE WE WILL HAVE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET ATTENTION SHOOTING SOMEONE ELSE.

EVERY TAME I TAKE MY KIDS TO A LARGE SCALE GATHERING, I'M THINKING IS THERE GOING TO BE A SHOOTING AT THIS EVENT?

THE GUN VIOLENCE, IN THIS STATE NOT SAYING WE WOULD EASILY SOLVE IT BY SOMETHING SOME CHANGE TO THE STATE LAW, BUT THE STATE LAW IS ONE OF THE WORST, JUST HOW EASY IT IS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO GET THEIR HANDS ON GUNS WHEN THEY ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES THAT WILL DESTROY LIFE.

THEY ARE GOING TO SURVIVE, BUT THEY ARE SCARED FOR LIFE.

>> WE KNOW THEY ARE JUVENILES.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW OLD THE SUSPECTS ARE.

THEY COULD BE 16 1/2, 17.

>> WHEN YOU WERE 16 OR 17, DID YOU KNOW SMFS WRONG TO SHOOT SOMEBODY?

>> YES, I DID.

>> JOE'S POINT IS RIGHT, EXPS ACCEPT FOR THIS.

IT'S A SOCIETY THAT HAS TOO MANY GUNS.

WELL, YOUR NEW LAW -- .. SAYS TAKE MILITARY WEAPONS OFF THE STREETS WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED THIS ONE, AND THAT'S CORRECT.

..

PARTICULARLY NOT FOCUSING ON GUN VIOLENCE AGAIN, AND THIS IS AS GOOD A TIME AS ANY, THAT THE ARGUMENTS ARE WE OUGHT TO FIND COMMON GROUND.

THERE .. TO POSSESS MILITARY WEAPONS IN THE NAME OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

THAT.. WORK ON, AND IF THIS IS THE TIME WE WORK ON IT, EVEN THOUGH THESE WEREN'T MILITARY WEAPONS INVOLVED, SO BE IT.

REPUBLICANS ARE IRRATIONALLY COMMITTED TO MORE GUNS, AND THAT'S IT.

>> THERE..

SEEMS I RATIONALLY COMMITTED TO NOT BLAMING THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY USED THE GUN.

IF YOU WANT TO FIND COMMON GROUND, GREAT.

BOTH SIDES HAVE TO GIVE.

>> CAN YOU IDENTIFY ANYBODY THAT WOULD NOT BLAME THESE IDIOTS FOR THIS CRIME.

>> WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT ?O YOU ALREADY ADMIT YOU DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC CHANGE IN MIND THAT WOULD HAVE ALLEVIATED THE SITUATION.

>> WE DON'T EACH KNOW EXACTLY WHAT GUN WAS USED.

>> THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

>> KIND OF IS, BECAUSE FOR ALL WE KNOW -- WELL, I DON'T KNOW THE GUN WAS OBTAINED ILLEGALLY.

YOU CAN CARRY A GUN, BE A MINOR IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

I WILL FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU SAID JUST REAL QUICK.

CRIME HAS ALWAYS -- I DON'T KNOW IF THE ASSAILANTS ARE BLACK.

ASSUMING THEY ARE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT.

>> I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU.

RIGH.. AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES ARE SAYING I REALLY HOPE THESE AREN'T BLACK KIDS, BUT MY GUESS IS THEY ARE PROBABLY BLACK KIDS.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

THAT LEADS ME TO WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

CRIME HAS BEEN A PROBLEM IN URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS FOR DECADES.

MURDER HAS NOT BEEN A PROBLEM IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS FOR DECADES.

SOMEBODY HAS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT AND NOT ALWAYS PUT IT ON A GUN, BUT PUT IT IN THE HAND OF THE YOUNG ASSAILANT.

I'M .. ARE BLACK THAT FIRED THESE SHOTS.

ARE, OKAY?

AND THAT'S JUST A REALITY THAT IN MY WORLD THAT I LIVE WITH, AND I'M SICK OF IT.

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF IT.

THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

>> THE ONE PERSON WE KNOW FOR SURE WAS BLACK WAS ONE OF THE HEROES WHO TACKLE A GUY, AND THE HEROES OF THE STORY, INCLUDING SOME OF THE MEDIA PEOPLE THAT KEPT THEIR COOL, THERE WERE MANY HEROES, A NUMBER OF GUYS WENT FLYING AFTER THESE GUYS, RISKING THEIR OWN LIVES TO THE EXTENT THERE'S A SILVER LINING FOR THIS.

IT R.. A BLACK MAN.

>> HOLD ON.

I'M NOT SAYING EVERYBODY THAT'S EVIL IS BLACK.

I'M GIVING YOU A LITTLE INSIGHT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS, THAT'S A THOUGHT.

>> ANOTHER THING INTERESTING JENNIFER AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING, THE BRAVE ONLOOKERS WHO TACKLED THE SUSPECT TO THE GROUND.

THEY W..

THEY ARE SO ANGRY, AND IT'S LUCKY THE POLICE OFFICERS WERE CLOSE BY.

>> THE ONE THING THAT FRUSTRATES ME ABOUT THIS IS THERE'S NO SPECIFIC LAW THAT'S GOING TO COVER.

MURDER LAWS DON'T KEEP.. FROM HAPPENING.

THE POINT IS YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE A STRATEGY FOR REDUCING GUN VIOLENCE OF ALL KINDS, AND IT STARTS WITH FEWER GUNS.

>> ENFORCEMENT.

>> ILLEGAL FOLKS ARE NOT GOING TO ABIDE BY THAT.

>> WE HAVE TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE, AND IT'S ANOTHER SAD STORY, OKAY?

CHICAGO FROM THE DRAKE CONCERT ARE STRUCK BY A VERY HICK WILL THAT ALLEGEDLY RAN A RED LIGHT.

CRAZY DRIVING PERSON ON 44 LUCKILY A SCHOOL BUS, AND LUCKILY NO KIDS WERE ON IT, BECAUSE THE BUS OVERTURNED.

THIS IS NOT ON THE SAME BLOCK, SO TO SPEAK AND NOT TO MAKE LIGHT.

.. AT THE CHURCH AND COVERED IT UP.

JOE DRIVING -- WHAT'S.

>> WHAT STRUCK ME ABOUT THIS ACCIDENT AFTER THE DRAKE CONCERT WAS IT WAS THREE DAYS AWAY FROM BEING EXACTLY ONE YEAR TO THE DAY THAT THE YOUNG TENNESSEE VOLLEYBALL PLAYER IN A CRASH IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS LOST BOTH OF HER LEGS AND STARTED IN THE PROCESS WHICH ENDED UP COSTING KIM GARDNER HER JOB AS PROSECUTING ATTORNEY.

THAT'S WHAT FIRST GRABBED ME WAS THE SHEER COIN DENIE COINCIDENCE AND TIMIN G OF IT.

THE PERSON DID NOT J.. RED LIGHT BUT RAN A SERIES OF RED LIGHTS, AND SIDESWIPED A CAR, WHICH SENT IT OUT OF CONTROL, WHICH THREW IT INTO THE MOTHER AND DAUGHTER WHO WERE CROSSING THE STREETS AND KILLED THEM.

ENFORCEMENIS A LACK OFENFORCEMENT OF LAWS.

AND WE HAVE LJ CITY, LET'S NOT PROSECUTE SMALL CRIMES LIKE RUNNING RED LIGHTS.

SO SOMEONE RUNS 6 RED LIGHTS AND THEY GO TOO FAST.

AT SOME POINT THE LAW HAS TO BE ENFORCED AND CRIMINALS NEED TO BE PROSECUTED.

PART OF YOU CAN GO THAT'S SIMPLISTIC BY ALL MEANS WE OFFER A LOT OF SIMPLISTIC SOLUTIONS HERE.

PAYING TRAFFIC TICKETS.

THOSE ARE NOT UNFAIR IF DONE FAIRLY, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS IS THAT PEOPLE SEE AS A CITY RESIDENT I NEVER LEAVE A STOP SIGN WITHOUT COUNTING 1 MISSISSIPPI UP TO 3, BECAUSE I'M ALMOST CERTAIN SOMEONE WILL BE RUNNING A RED LIGHT OR A STOP SIGN, AND I KNOW THERE WILL BE NO POLICE OFFICER THERE, BECAUSE THE FORCE IS ALSO DOWN 200, 300 PEOPLE, AND THEY WON'T BE THERE TO WRITE A TICKET.

THAT'S WHAT USED TO KEEP ME INSIDE THE SPEED LIMIT, OBEYING LAWS.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE ENFORCEMENT WHY.

I MOST OF THE TIME OBEYED THE LAW SO I W GET IN TROUBLE ABOUT THE POLICE.

HIRE MORE POLICE, LET THEM START ENFORCING THE LAW AND PROSECUTORS PROSECUTE.

>> INSPIRED TAGS.

>> YOU CAN CALL IT THE BROKEN WINDOW.

.. THEN LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

ANYBODY THAT HAS HAD A KID KNOWS IF YOU DON'T GET A TROUBLE WHEN A KID IS 10 MINUTES LATE, THE NEXT TIME IT'S A HALF HOUR LATE.

AND YOU ARE ALWAYS PUSHING THE ENVELOP UNTIL SOMEONE SAYS KNOW NO.

GENTLEMAN NAY EDMONDSON THING HERE.

WAKE-UP WALL FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

.. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IT GAME TH.. THAT KIM GARDNER ENDED UP BEING FORCED TO RESIGN.

IT WAS A BGER ISSU BIGGER ISSUE HERE.

THERE IS OUT OF CONTROL DRIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

SOMEBODY HAS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN DOWNTOWN EMPTIED OUT, LEFT US WITH THE GIANT WIDE STREETS AND PEOPLE STARTED GOING DOWN THERE SPECIFICALLY TO CAUSE HE MAYHEM.

AND WE IGNORED THAT WAKE-UP CALL BECAUSE WE WERE FOCUSED ON THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

>> EXACTLY.

THIS I.. LOUIS DRIVERS.

THIS IS ABOUT DOWNTOWN IN PARTICULAR AND THE CITY IN GENERAL, JUST ANTIDOT ANT ANTIDOTE SPENT.

.. PATROL THEM.

BEFORE THIS THEY WERE SAYING IT'S ALL KIM GARDNER'S FAULT FOR NOT PROSECUTING.

I WOULD POINT OUT TO YOU THAT MORE POLICE WOULD NOT SOLVE THIS ONE ANYMORE THAN BETTER GUN LAWS WOULD SOLVE THE ONE IN KANSAS CITY.

.. AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

WE NEED MORE POLICE, AND WE NEED THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO HAVE AN ATTITUDE ABOUT ENFORCING THOSE LAWS.

THE CITY, THEY WERE SO JADED, THEY WOULDN'T EVEN COME TO TALK ABOUT A STOLEN CAR.

THAT WAS IN THE '80s.

>> IT'S STILL HAPPENING.

>> I KNOW, BUT I'M TRYING TO SAY THAT WAS IN THE '80s.

YOU HAVE GOT TO CHANGE.

YOU NEED MORE ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE PART OF THE POLICE, TOO.

>> YES, BECAUSE YOU HAVE GOT THE POLICE OFFICERS JUST DRIVING IN TO BAR PM, AND EVERYBODY IS DRIVING CRAZILY.

>> WRS THE OVERSIGHT?

>> YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WITH THE JANA EDMONDSON, THAT DRIVER HAD BEEN IMPLICATED IN THE CASE THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF ALLEGEDLY BY THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY AND KIM GARDNER.

>&g.. MISDIRECTED FOCUS.

ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK AND RESPIN THE STORY.

IT WAS A NEEDED FOCUS ON KIM GARDNER'S OFFICE.

NOW WHAT'S NEEDED IS A FOCUS ON LACK OF ENFORCING BASIC SAFETY LAWS THAT SERVE EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.

>> THE MOST BASIC QUESTION REMAINS.

WHO?

ROBE.. >> 30% OF THE JOBS ARE VACANT.

HOW HARD ARE WE TRYING TO HIRE PEOPLE.

>> JOE, EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTRY IS HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM.

TO YOUR POINT, I HAVE AL.. SAID THE SAME THING.

PAY THEM BETTER, TREAT THEM BETTER, AND EXPECT MORE OF THEM.

YOU TALK ABOUT SIMPLISTIC, THAT'S AS SIMPLISTIC AS YOU CAN GET.

EVERY CITY IN AMERIC.. TROUBLE.

>> LOT..

SO A WOMAN IS ROBBED ON CHRISTMAS EVE ON THE METRO.

THEN THERE'S A PRETTY CLEAR VIDEO THAT'S RELEASED EARLIER THIS WEEK.

I'M KIND OF SHOCKED THAT IT TOOK THAT LONG, AND BECAUSE YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY SEE WHO THE PERSON IS, ALLEGED SUSPECT, AND FOR ALL I KNOW I COULD HAVE BEEN SITTING NEXT TO HIM ON THE METRO A WEEK LATER.

DOES THAT BOTHER YOU AT ALL?

>> IT WAS A BRUTAL ASSAULT.

SHE WAS SMASHED AGAINST THE WINDOW.

SH.. SHE COULDN'T WORK FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

SEEMED..

MENTAL ISSUES WITH THE SUSPECT, BUT THE COUNTY POLICE, THE LINE OF ABOUT HOW IT TAKES AWHILE, AND WE WANT TO RUN IT THROUGH CERTAIN SYSTEMS AND MAKE SURE WE CAN'T APPREHEND THE PERSON ON OUR OWN OR IDENTIFY THE PERSON ON OUR OWN, THAT SEEMS LIKE SELECTIVE MEMORY, BECAUSE MOST OF US HAVE SEEN THE SHOTS .. ARE TAKEN FROM CAM MAS CAMERAS AT ATM'S.

>> I DON'T FIND THIS UNUSUAL.

THERE WAS ANOTHER CASE WHERE IT HAPPENED ON A METRO BUS, I BELIEVE, OR MAYBE IT WAS METROLINK, WHERE THE F.B.I.

GOT INVOLVED.

AND .. A TRANSGENDER GOING TO A JOB INTERVIEW.

IT T..

THERE'S THIS PERSON WHO DID THE BRUTAL ATTACK.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW UNDERSTAFFED IT IS.

I THINK THEY ALSO TR..

THIS IS RELATIVELY EASY, AND WE WILL PICK THE PERSON UP, AND WE CAN'T COME TO THE PUBLIC ON EVERYONE OF THESE THINGS.

>> WHY NOT?

>> I'M SURE METROLINK WANTS THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE, RIGHT?

>> I'M GOING TO SAY I WILL GO WITH THE RAZOR, NEVER ATTRIBUTE TO MALICE WHAT CAN BE EXPLAINED BY STUPIDITY OR IN THIS CASE BUREAUCRACY.

>&g.. >> IT TOOK A COUPLE MONTHS TO GET IT THROUGH.

I WOULD NEED TO KNOW MORE BEFORE I WOULD SAY ANYBODY WAS INTENTIONALLY HOLDING THIS.

INCOMPETENCY NEEDS A LITTLE MORE TIME.

..

IF SOMEONE WAS ASSAULTED, LET ALONE MURDERED.

THERE'MOST SPEEDERS AREN'T RUNNER OVERS.

BUT THIS GUY OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW -.

>> WE HAVE A LOT O.. SOCIETY.

EVERY SI..

FEELS LIKE A HOUSE ON FIRE.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE BEING KILLED EVERY DAY IN THE CITY AND IN THE METRO, EVEN MORE, AND ST. LOUIS COUNTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF BRUTAL BEATINGS THAT GO ON ON A DAILY BASIS.

>> DEBATING THE 23rd STATE TO BECOME A RIGHT TO DIE STATE WHERE I GUESS YOU COULD BASICALLY DECIDE WHEN YOU WANT TO LEAVE THIS EARTH AND MAYBE WITH THE HELP OF OTHERS.

IS THIS A GOOD IDEA?

>> INCREASE THE DEMAND THIS WEEK.

>> IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.

WOW.

I BELIEVE -- I PRIDE MYSELF AS AN ADVOCATE OF DISABILITY RIGHTS.

TH..

THIS.

I AM FUNDAMENTALLY IN FAVOR OF THE RIGHT TO DIE AS A PERSONAL CHOICE, IF YOU WILL, BUT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE LOTS OF SAFEGUARDS ON IT.

IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS SOME..

BEING SAD.

THERE ARE IN OTHER STATES THAT HAVE DONE THE DO WHAT I WANT TO SAY ORGAN, AND IN A LOT OF COUNTRIES.

THER.. ARE -- THAT HAVE SAFEGUARDS, MEDICAL SAFEGUARDS TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

BUT THERE ARE CASES PARTICULARLY SOMEBODY THAT'S TERMLY ILL SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THAT DECISION ON A PERSONAL BASIS, CALL IT DRUG CHOICE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM ESSENTIALLY, FOR WHATEVER REASON, SOMEONE ELSE TAKING THAT STEP.

>> MY TH.. SITUATION LIKE THAT, IF YOU ARE ADVANCING OR YOU HAVE DEBILITATING TYPE OF DISEASE, I FEEL AS THOUGH IF THAT WAS LEGAL THAT YOU COULD BE PRESSURED INTO DOING IT.

MAYBE IT REALLY ISN'T YOUR DECISION.

I DO.. THAT.

>> I'M WITH RAY ON THIS ONE.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS ANY SAY SO MORE THAN I DO ABOUT WHEN I GO.

THE IDEA -- TO ME, IT IS PRO CHOICE AND IT'S VERY BASIC.

IF THERE'S ONE DECISION, I THINK, THAT'S SOLELY YOURS IF A DOCTOR SAYS IF WE PUT YOU THROUGH THESE TREATMENTS YOU WILL BE FINE.

I DON'T WANT THEM.

WHO ELSE GETS TO DECIDE?

WHO ELSE HAS EARNED THE RIGHT OTHER THAN ME ON WHEN I END MY LIFE.

OF.. AND A LOT OF THOSE SAFEGUARDS ARE BUILT IN FOR A PERSON WHO IS ASSISTING SOMEONE SO THEY DON'T BECOME AN ACCOMPLICE TO A CRIME.

>> WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING.

>> I GUESS THE IDEA IS YOU CAN BE FIGURED OUT HOW YOU WRITE THE LAW.

QUESTION IS THIS SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALLOW?

AND TECHNICALLY YOU ARE ALREADY ALLOWED TO TAKE YOUR OWN LIFE IF YOU SO CHOOSE.

>> BUT THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW, THOUGH.

>..

PROSECUTE YOU.

>> I'M NOT JOKING.

IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.

>> FINALLY FOUND SOMEBODY TO PROSECUTE.

>> AND THIS CH..

CLASSIFICATION OF THE DEATH SO IT DOESN'T SAY SUICIDE.

IT SAYS TERMINAL ILLNESS.

IT'S TRUE WHAT THEY SAY, THE OLDER YOU GET HOW THINGS CONSTANTLY ARE SHIFTING.

I HAVE SEEN IT IN MY OWN LIFE.

WE CAN'T SAY MY FAITH PARTICULAR TATES THAT NO, YOU WAIT UNTIL GOD CALLS YOU HOME.

BUT I ALSO BELIEVE IT IS BETWEEN A PERSON WHO IS IN PAIN.

WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PAIN OF ANOTHER PERSON.

WE DON'T..

GOES, IF THEY ARE ALONE.

IT'S BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR GOD.

I'M VERY, VERY CONFLICTED ABOUT IT.

>.. QUICK.

THEY ARE TRYING TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS TO GET A LIQUOR LICENSE.

.. BECAUSE IT'S BACKLOGGED, SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE FOR THE GOOD FOLKS THAT WANT TO OPEN A RESTAURANT.

>> RESTAURANTS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING FOR .. TIME NOW.

IT'S A LONG LAG TIME TO GET A LIQUOR LICENSE IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

AND ..

PROCESS WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND, GATHER SIGNATURES, AND IT GIVES NEIGHBORS A GREAT SAY IN THE PROCESS, BUT FOR BUSINESSES IT'S VERY COSTLY.

YOU PRETTY MUCH CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT A LAWYER.

IF YOU ARE A PERSON OF COLOR, IMMIGRANT, GO DOOR TO DOOR, THEY MAY NOT LIKE THE LOOK OF YOU AND MAY NOT WANT TO SIGN YOUR PETITION, IT'S BECOME HOSTILE.

AND BOARD OF ALDERMEN HAS A PROPOSAL AND TRIGGERED COME BACK.

>> AND BOARD O..

BECOME HOSTILE TO CONCERNS OF RESIDENT GROUPS.

YOU HAVE TO BA.. NO QUESTION THERE'S QUESTION IN READING THE COVERAGE ON THE RIVERFRONT TIMES, AND THE NEWSPAPER DID VERY WELL ON THIS.

>> NEW MANAGER.

>> I GUESS SO.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

SURPRISING.

NO.

MAKE IT EASIER.

THERE'S DIFFICULTIES IN FINDING PEOPLE AND SO FORTH.

THAT CLEARLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

WE NEED AS A SET ITEM ON THIS PROGRAM, WE NEED TO BUILD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS OUT.

EVERYTHING THAT REDUCES THE NEIGHBORS' ABILITY TO CONTROL THEIR SURROUNDINGS HAS TO BE DONE VERY PARTICULAR.

>> ONE THING EVERYBODY CAN AGREE ON, THE LAST THING THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS NEEDS TO DO IS ALIENATE ANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

>>..

LEAST AT THIS TIME SIDE WITH ALDERMEN CAR CAR CARE KARA SPENCER SAYS H ANG ON.

RESIDENTS.

YOU ..

THE PEOPLE.

ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT RESTAURANTS HAVE TOO MANY HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH, BUT IT SOUNDS, LIKE WITH THE HOMELESS BILL OF RIGHTS, THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN TENDS TO WANT TO PUSH THINGS THROUGH FAST WITHOUT BUILDING THE PROPER CONSENSUS.

>> THAT'S WHAT ALDER WOMAN SPENCER POINTED OUT IN THIS CASE.

>>.. TABLE.

FAMILY, TOO, LIVELY DISCUSSION.

DON'T THINK WE ARE MACING LIGHT OF ANY OF THIS DEATH AND MAYHEM.

GO RIGHT AT THE DINNER TABLE.

WE WILL TALK.

THE SMILES ARE HIDING SOME PAIN THIS WEEK.

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