[♪♪♪] >> GOOD EVENING I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.

WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."

BRANDIS FRIEDMAN LAST THE EDGE OFF.

ON THE SHOW TONIGHT.

>> GOVERNMENT CANNOT BE BLOATED BUT IT MUST HAVE THE RESOURCES TO PROVIDE FOR THE NEEDS OF OUR STATE'S RESIDENTS.

>> DETAILS ON GOVERNOR PRITZKER'S BUDGET ADDRESS PLUS REACTION FROM LAWMAKERS.

THE TRANSGENDER MILITARY BAN HAS BEEN REPEALED WE TALK WITH RETIRED COLONEL JENNIFER PRITZKER ABOUT THE REVERSAL AND HER PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN THE MILITARY.

>> THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS LOST ITS WAY.

>> CONGRESSMAN ADAM KINZINGER GETS HONORED FOR HIS STANCE AGAINST TRUMP'S REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT IS ONE OF OUR SPOTLIGHT POLITICS TOPICS TONIGHT.

>> SOMETHING THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN BROUGHT TO ME, MAYOR WE NEED A GROCERY STORE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

>> THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE AND NUTRITIOUS FOOD IN NORTH CHICAGO HAS MADE THAT CITY A FOOD DESERT.

SOON IT WILL GET A GROCERY STORE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 20 YEARS.

>> NASA PLANNED TO LAND A ROVER ON MARS AND CHINA IS IN ON THE MARS HUNT.

AN ENTIRE WINTER'S WORTH OF SNOW HAS FALLEN ON CHICAGO IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS HAS THE CITY EVER SEEN THIS MUCH SNOW BEFORE?

>> BUT TOP STORIES, STUDENTS RETURN TO IN-PERSON LEARNING TODAY BUT MUCH OF THE CITY IS DIGGING OUT FROM THE SNOWSTORM.

THE CITY ANNOUNCED PLANS TO REMOVE SNOW AND PUT THEM IN EMPTY AREAS.

THE LAKEFRONT TRAIL REOPENED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A CLOSURE FROM NORTH TO OHIO BECAUSE OF ICY CONDITIONS AND THE CITY'S COVID TESTING SITES REOPENED AT NOON AFTER SHUTTING DOWN.

MUCH MORE ON HOW MUCH SNOW CHICAGO HAS SEEN LATER IN THE PROGRAM.

>> ILLINOIS HEALTH OFFICIALS ANNOUNCE NEARLY 1800 NEW CASES OF THE CORONAVIRUS.

AND 24 ADDITIONAL DEATHS.

ILLINOIS HAS SEEN 1 OPINION 16 MILLION CASES AND 20,057 DEATHS.

THE POSITIVITY RATE IS 3.4%.

AND TODAY WAS THE FIRST DAY CHICAGO'S LOOSENED INDOOR DINING RESTRICTIONS WENT INTO EFFECT.

BARS AND RESTAURANTS MAY HAVE THE LESSER OF 40% CAPACITY OR 50 PEOPLE SEATED INSIDE.

CHICAGO TEST POSITIVITY RATE IS 3.6% RIGHT NOW AND THAT IS DOWN FROM 4.7 ABOUT A WEEK AGO.

CHICAGO'S HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAYS THE CITY IS SEEING A DAILY AVERAGE OF 388 NEW CASES.

AND AVERAGE OF 8 DEATHS PER DAY.

>> AND NOW WE TOSS IT TO AMANDA VINICKY AND THE DETAILS ON GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER'S BUDGET PROPOSAL.

AMANDA?

>> PARIS, BECAUSE OF THE CORONAVIRUS, THE GOVERNOR'S ANNUAL BUDGET ADDRESS LOOKED DIFFERENT.

INSTEAD OF THE POMP AND CEREMONY OF GIVING THE SPEECH BEFORE A JOINT SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE THERE WAS A 2-PERSON AUDIENCE HIS WIFE AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.

HE GAVE HIS SPEECH FROM THE ILLINOIS STATE FAIR GROUNDS THE SITE OF A HOSPITAL DURING THE SPANISH FLU AND HE SAID WHAT IS OLD IS NEW AGAIN AND THE SAME FOR THE BUDGET.

THE GOVERNOR'S BANKING MUCH OF THE BUDGET ON PROPOSALS ATTEMPTED BY DEMOCRATS IN THE PAST BY CLOSING CORPORATE LOOPHOLES.

SETTING UP A TRIED AND TRUE PARTISAN STANDOFF AS PRITZKER USED HIS BUDGET SPEECH TO TAKE A SWING AT THE FAR RIGHT REPUBLICANS SWUNG RIGHT BACK.

>> MANY ON THE FAR RIGHT MADE THEIR NAME IN POLITICS BY TOUTING CUTS TO UNEMPLOYMENT PROGRAMS AND HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE.

AMIDST THE TRAGEDY OF THIS PANDEMIC, THEY HAVE LOBBIED AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDING RELIEF TO ILLINOISANS.

IGNORING THE LIFE CHANGING ECONOMIC PAIN OF REAL WORKING FAMILIES IN ESSENCE THEY ELIMINATED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BURNT DOWN THE HOUSE AND POURED GAS AND THE FLAMES AND NOW THEY ARE ASKING WHY WE ARE NOT DOING MORE TO PREVENT FIRES.

>> INSTEAD OF REFORMS THAT THE STATE DESPERATELY NEEDS HE HAS PUT US ON TRACK JUST TO CONTINUE TO MOVE MONEY AROUND, RAISE TAXES ON BUSINESSES, BLUE-COLLAR WORKERS AND THE MANUFACTURING SECTOR HERE IN ILLINOIS.

THE GOVERNOR CONTINUES TO SHOW JUST HOW OUT OF TOUCH HE IS WITH EVERYONE ELSE WHEN WE ALL HAVE TO BALANCE OUR OWN BUDGETS BUT INSTEAD THE GOVERNOR IS FAILING TO DO THAT.

>> BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS LIKEWISE WERE QUICK TO BASH THE TAX BREAKS WITH STATEMENTS LIKE THE ILLINOIS CHAMBER IS OPPOSED TO THE MASSIVE TAX INCREASE PROPOSED BY THE BUDGET PLAN UNDER THE GUISE OF CLOSING CORPORATE LOOPHOLES.

WE UNDERSTAND THE STATE HAS FISCAL PROBLEMS TO ADDRESS, HOWEVER THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN WILL HAVE A LONG-TERM NEGATIVE IMPACT ON JOB CREATION.

>> BEYOND THE TAX HIKE BUSINESSES MAY FACE, PRITZKER'S BUDGET DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY OTHER TAX OR FEE INCREASES.

THIS, DESPITE THE FAILURE IN NOVEMBER OF PRITZKER'S GRADUATED INCOME TAX WHICH WOULD HAVE BROUGHT IN $3 BILLION ANNUALLY.

AND WHICH THE GOVERNOR HAD PREVIOUSLY SAID WOULD MEAN... >> THERE WILL BE CUTS AND THEY WILL BE PAINFUL.

>> THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN DOESN'T MAKE THOSE CUTS OBVIOUS.

IT ACTUALLY CALLS FOR MORE MONEY FOR THE AGENCIES STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP WITH THE COVID INDUCED SPIKE IN UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS AND PUTS MORE INTO MAP GRANTS FOR LOW INCOME COLLEGE STUDENTS.

BUT IT HOLDS THE LINE STEADY ON FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS.

INSTEAD DEPENDING ON FEDERAL MONEY TO BOOST EDUCATION SPENDING.

PRITZKER IS HOPING MORE OF THAT WILL COME THROUGH.

>> CONGRESS MUST ACT AND I URGE EVERY ILLINOISAN TO ADD THEIR VOICE TO THIS EMANNED.

>> MANY LEGISLATORS AND GOVERNOR'S ALLIES WHO PUSHED FOR THE INCOME TAX SAY WITH THE HARDSHIPS OF THE PANDEMIC, THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN DOESN'T SPEND ENOUGH.

THIS ADDRESS DOUBLED AS THE ANNUAL STATE OF THE STATE SPEECH MUCH FOCUS WAS ON ILLINOIS' CONTINUED RESPONSE TO CORONAVIRUS BUT CALLED FOR LAWMAKERS TO MOVE ON STALLED ETHICS, RENEWABLE ENERGY AND MARIJUANA EQUITY MEASURES AND JOINING US FOR THEIR REACTION TO GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER BUDGET ADDRESS ARE ASTATE SENATOR CHAPIN ROSE A REPUBLICAN FROM MA HOEET.

AND REPRESENTATIVE AVERY BOURNE A REPUBLICAN FROM LITCHFIELD AND STATE REPRESENTATIVE KAM BUCKNER A DEMOCRAT FROM CHICAGO.

THANK YOU TO EACH OF YOU.

LET'S BEGIN, SENATOR ROSE THIS IS A PROPOSAL HOW MUCH OF THIS DO YOU ENVISION THIS BECOMING A REALITY?

>> LOOK HE IS THE GOVERNOR AND BECAUSE OF AN EXTRAORDINARY POWERS THE STATE CONSTITUTION GRANTS HIM WITH THE BUDGET HE WILL GET 95% OF WHAT HE WANTS NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT OBVIOUSLY HE HAS SUPER MAJORITY DEMOCRATS IN CONTROL OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.

I HOPE THEY FIX THE MANY ISSUE AS LONG THE WAY AS THEY GO NOT THE LEAST THIS IS $1.7 BILLION IN THE HOLE RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.

>> SENATOR CASTRO, YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT SAME PARTIES THE GOVERNOR.

WHAT DID YOU THINK OF WHAT YOU HEARD?

>> OVERALL I'M PLEASED WITH THE BUDGET.

I MEAN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE WE MAKE OUR FULL PENSION PAYMENTS AND I'M PLEASED THE GOVERNOR DOES NOT HAVE A TAX INCREASE THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD NOT SUPPORT.

IT IS TIME FOR US TO REALLY RELIEVE THAT TAX BURDEN ON OUR WORKING CLASS FAMILIES.

>> I WANT TO PLAY A CLIP FROM THE GOVERNOR'S ADDRESS THAT WE HEARD.

>> TWO MONTHS AGO, I ASKED REPUBLICANS IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY FOR THEIR PROPOSALS TO CLOSE THIS YEAR'S BUDGET DEFICIT.

I WAS MET WITH SILENCE.

THEIR IDEA OF BIPARTISANSHIP ENDS WHEN HARD CHOICES MUST BE MADE.

>> DID THE G.O.P.

OFFER ANY INPUT, SUGGESTIONS FOR CUTS?

>> WE'VE ALSO HEARD SILENCE FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WHEN WE ASKED WHAT THE PROPOSED AGENCY CUTS ARE FROM THE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET ADDRESS.

HE ASKED FOR THIS INPUT TWO YEARS REPUBLICANS GAVE INPUT ON A BUDGET AND WE REACHED A BALANCED BUDGET AND TODAY THE GOVERNOR TURNED HIS BACK ON ALMOST ALL OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT REPUBLICANS SUGGESTED TWO YEARS AGO.

THERE IS A LACK OF TRUST THERE.

AND IF HE IS ASKING REPUBLICANS TO ENGAGE THIS TYPE OF BIPARTISAN HAS TO END.

>> THAT CORPORATE TAX LOOPHOLE CLOSURES.

IS THAT WHAT THESE ARE, REPRESENTATIVE BUCKNER?

>> LISTEN, EVERY TIME WE FACE DIFFICULT BUDGET DECISIONS PEOPLE TALK ABOUT SHARED SACRIFICE AND THAT SACRIFICE FALLS ON WORKING FAMILIES, STUDENTS AND SENIORS.

IF THERE ARE SPECIAL DEALS FOR BIG BUSINESSES THAT CAN BE CUT BACK TO PREVENT CUTS TO CRITICAL SERVICES THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

WE NEED TO ABSORB PAIN AND MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, WANT TO PILE ALL THE PAIN ON THE PEOPLE WHO CAN LEAST AFFORD IT AND I WILL NEVER BE OK WITH THAT.

>> THE GOVERNOR WARNED WHEN THE GRADUATED INCOME TAX PROPOSAL FAILED BIG CUTS OR A TAX INCREASE.

WE DON'T SEE THE LATTER FOR SURE.

WE DON'T REALLY SEE THAT STEEP OF CUTS.

IN FACT THERE ARE INCREASES.

SO WAS THAT A SCARE TACTIC SENATOR CASTRO?

>> WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A GLOBAL PANDEMIC.

AS A LATINO CAUCUS COCHAIR OUR COMMUNITY AND THE BLACK COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN IMPACTED TREMENDOUSLY BY COVID-19.

SO I THINK I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE GOVERNOR HIMSELF KEPT THOSE LINE ITEMS AND INCREASED THEM BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITIES ARE HARDEST HIT.

AGAIN, THIS IS A PROPOSAL IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL THE BRANCHES THE EXECUTIVE AND THE LEGISLATIVE AND BOTH PARTIES TO SIT DOWN AND WORK TOGETHER AND HASH OUT A BUDGET.

>> I WANT TO GET BACK TO WHAT LATINO COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR WOULD NEED.

WHAT AGAIN OF THIS GRADUATED INCOME TAX INCREASE, AGAIN, WAS THAT ALL A SCARE TACTIC THAT WE ARE NOT SEEING STEEP CUTS NOR A TAX INCREASE?

>> ANYBODY?

>> SO I TELL YOU, FIRST OF ALL, THE PEOPLE IN ILLINOIS SAW THROUGH THE NONSENSE IN NOVEMBER AND REJECTED THE PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX.

THEY WILL SEE THROUGH THE KNOWN SENSE FROM THAT -- NONSENSE FROM TODAY.

ONE ISSUE IS IDEAS.

REPUBLICANS HAVE CONSISTENTLY FOR MORE THAN A DECADE FILED ALL KINDS OF IDEAS THAT WOULD HELP THE SPENDING SIDE AND ENCOURAGE AND FOSTER JOB CREATION IN THE STATE TO ORGANICALLY GROW REVENUES RATHER THAN CONTINUE TO TAX PEOPLE.

WE PUT IN IDEA AFTER IDEA AFTER IDEA.

I REJECT CATEGORICALLY AS NONSENSE THAT ASSERTION HE MADE.

SECONDARYLY, COVID HIT EVERY COMMUNITY IN THE STATE IN A FUNDAMENTALLY TRAGIC AND TERRIBLE WAY.

AND YOU KNOW, LOOK, HERE IS WHAT DOESN'T HELP.

WHAT DOESN'T HELP IS THE HYPER PARTISAN NONSENSE SPEWED TODAY AND ALSO IF YOU TALK ABOUT TAXING LOOPHOLES HOW IS ELIMINATING THE BLUE-COLLAR JOBS ACT GOING TO HELP ANYBODY WHO MAKES LESS THAN $75,000 A YEAR?

HOW IS ELIMINATING TAXING BIODIESEL WHICH PRODUCES 20% OF ALL JOBS IN THE STATE AGRICULTURE JOBS THAT HELPS CREATE JOBS IN THE STATE AND HELPS THE ENVIRONMENT AND HELPS CONSUMERS BY KEEPING THE PRICE OF FUEL LOW.

HOW DOES TAXING FUEL BIODIESEL FUEL GOING TO HELP ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY?

>> YOU SAID THAT REPUBLICANS OFFERED IDEAS.

GIVE ME ONE.

>> SO I WILL GIVE YOU SEVERAL.

LET'S START WITH HOW ABOUT THIS... NO PAY RAISES FOR LEGISLATORS OR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.

HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT CONSTITUENTS ALL OVER ILLINOIS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAVE GOT LESS HOURS OUT OF WORK, NO JOBS BECAUSE OF COVID, YET SOMEHOW THE STATE OF ILLINOIS IS IMMUNE TO THAT.

HERE IS AN EASY ONE, THIS IS LOW HANGING FRUIT ON THE PENSION SIDE.

WE COULD HAVE BEEN MORE AGGRESSIVE ON STRUCTURED BUYOUTS IT DOESN'T HURT ANYBODY BECAUSE IT'S PURELY VOLUNTARY.

WE COULD OFFER CHOICE TO SCRS.

>> LET'S GET DEMOCRATIC RESPONSE TO THAT.

SENATOR CASTRO.

>> I WILL GIVE YOU 25 MORE IDEAS.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET REPRESENTATIVE BUCKNER FOR SENATOR CASTRO'S RESPONSE SHOULD THAT BE PART OF THE BUDGET PERHAPS FREE UP SPENDING FOR YOUR OTHER DESIRES?

>> WELL, WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLAY BEFORE -- AND I FULLY EXPECT AS A COEQUAL BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT THAT THE LEGISLATURE WILL COME TOGETHER AND HAVE SOME UNFORTUNATE AND UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK THAT ALL THINGS SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE REAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT REFORM.

BUT IN THIS SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE ALL WISH WE COULD DO MORE WITH MORE.

BUT REALITY COMPELS US TO DO MORE WITH LESS.

AND SO I APPLAUD THE GOVERNOR FOR TAKING THE FIRST STEPS AND I'M READY TO COME TO THE TABLE AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> THERE IS NO TAX INCREASE INCLUDED IN THIS, SENATOR CASTRO YOU SAID THAT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WOULD SUPPORT.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ENVISION BEING PART OF THIS IN THE END AS WE ARE HEARING FROM GROUPS AND PERHAPS YOU CAN ADDRESS MORE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR LATINO COMMUNITIES, COMMUNITIES OF COLOR THAT HAVE BEEN PRIMARILY AFFECTED BY THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC?

WHERE IS THAT MONEY GOING TO COME FROM?

>> I DON'T SEE A TAX INCREASE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS WE APPLAUD THE GOVERNOR FOR NOT HAVING THAT.

A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN IMPACTED THEY ARE WORKING CLASS FAMILIES MANY RELY ON THE STATE SERVICES.

I CAN TELL YOU I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES HERE CAN TALK ABOUT PEOPLE, FRIENDS, FAMILY WHO HAVE BEEN TREMENDOUSLY IMPACTED BY COVID-19.

IN ADDITION WHEN YOU LOOK AT LATINO COMMUNITY LET'S NOT FORGET THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PUNISHED IMMIGRANTS, THE UNDOCUMENTED AND MIXED STATUS FAMILIES.

THE STATE TOOK THE STEP FORWARD TO ADDRESS THAT.

THERE NEEDS TO BE HELP IN RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

YOU HAVE FOLKS UNDERWATER NOT BY CHOICES OF THEIR OWN THIS IS A GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE IT.

AND AGAIN, AS REPRESENTATIVE BUCKNER SAID, AGAIN IT IS A PROPOSAL.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE GOVERNOR AND MY COLLEAGUES FROM ACROSS THE AISLE TO WORK THIS BUDGET.

AND TO COME OUT WITH A FINAL PRODUCT.

>> REPRESENTATIVE BOURNE, DOES THIS BUDGET DO ANYTHING TO CHIP AWAY AT ILLINOIS' LONG-TERM FINANCIAL ISSUES?

AND SHOULD IT?

>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.

WHAT WE SEE IS A DOUBLING DOWN ON THE DECADES OF FAILED FISCAL POLICY FROM A STATE GOVERNMENT THAT IS RUN EXCLUSIVELY BY DEMOCRATS.

I CONTEND THIS IS A BILLION DOLLAR TAX INCREASE IN THE BUDGET.

THIS IS NEW REVENUE DEMOCRATS AND THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THE PROVISIONS AND GO THROUGH THE PROVISIONS IN LAW TWO YEARS AGO AND NOW THEY ARE CALLING THEM CORPORATE LOOPHOLES.

IT WILL BE BUSINESSES PAYING MORE TAXES AND JOB CREATORS A BILLION MORE IN TAXES.

WE SEE SPENDING, SPENDING, NO SERIOUS TALKS ABOUT FISCAL REFORMS NO TALKS ABOUT RIGHTING THE FISCAL SHIP.

WE ARE IN A GLOBAL PANDEMIC BUT ILLINOIS' FISCAL ISSUES GO BACK DECADES.

WE HAVE TO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE WAY WE BUDGET AND SPEND THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS IN ILLINOIS IF WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE OUTCOMES SO GENERATIONS FROM NOW ARE NOT PAYING THESE BILLS.

>> AND WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.

OF COURSE ILLINOIS MAY HAVE MORE TO SPEND SHOULD THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COME THROUGH WITH $7 BILLION AS THE GOVERNOR HOPES.

THANK YOU TO SENATORS ROSE AND CASTRO TO REPRESENTATIVES BOURNE AND BUCKNER FOR JOINING US.

AND NOW, PARIS, WE GO BACK TO YOU.

>> THANKS, AMANDA.

TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS CAN ONCE AGAIN SERVE IN THE U.S. MILITARY AFTER AN EXECUTIVE ORDER SIGN BIDE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN LAST MONTH.

THE ORDERED IN A SERIES OF TWEETS DURS PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE AND JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THE REPEAL IS JENNIFER PRITZKER, RETIRED COLONEL BUSINESS WOMAN AND PHILANTHROPIST.

PRITZKER ENLISTED IN THE ARMY IN 1974 AND SERVED IN THE RESERVE AND THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD AND FOUNDED THE PRITZKER MILITARY MUSEUM AND LIBRARY MUSEUM.

WELCOME BACK TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT".

>> FIRST OF ALL, YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE THERE.

MY FIRST QUESTION TO YOU IS YOUR REACTION TO PRESIDENT BIDEN REPEALING THIS BAN?

>> WELL, I'M CERTAINLY GLAD THAT HE DID.

I THINK IT IS A GOOD THING FOR EVERYBODY.

AND I'M GLAD THAT HE USED HIS EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY TO DO SO.

>> REVERSING THE EXECUTIVE ORDER OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT WHO ANNOUNCED IT IN A SERIES OF TWEETS AND WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE.

WHAT WAS THE PRACTICAL IMPACT OF THIS BAN?

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE FACT THAT Mr. TRUMP WANTED TO MAKE A MAJOR POLICY CHANGE THROUGH A TWEET RATHER THAN THE CONVENTIONAL MEANS OF POLICY CHANGE.

HE CAUGHT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE OFF GUARD.

SO THEY THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF, THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, THE SERVICE SECRETARIES THEY HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE STUDY ON INTEGRATING OPEN SERVICE FOR TRANSGENDER TRENDS AND THE TWEET SAID ALL THAT.

>> AND THAT TWEET IN 2017 HE SAID...

APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY FOLKS DOES THE REVERSAL OF THE BAN EFFECT AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE LAST FEW YEARS HAVE BEEN LIKE?

>> IT AFFECTS ROUGHLY 14, 15,000 MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES.

AND IT PUT TOTAL CONFUSION, DISORDER AND RAPID DEMORALIZING INFLUENCE IN THEIR LIVES.

BECAUSE NOW THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY STAND.

BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE GRANDFATHERED IN.

SOME OF THEM YOU CAN SAY YOU ARE TRANSGENDER BUT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

SO IT WAS VERY DISRUPTIVE ANYWAY YOU LOOK AT IT.

>> AND PART OF THAT IS HEALTH COVERAGE FOR SERVICE MEMBERS THAT ARE TRANSITIONING OR UNDERGOING HORMONE THERAPY DO WE KNOW WHETHER BIDEN'S EXECUTIVE ORDER DEALS WITH THAT AND ALLOWS FOR HEALTH COVERAGE FOR THOSE SERVICE MEMBERS?

>> AS I UNDERSTAND IT IT DOES.

I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HORMONE THERAPY, HOW MUCH PSYCHOLOGICAL THERAPY, SURGICAL THERAPY OR POST-OP THERAPY AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT ONE SIZE DOESN'T FIT ALL FOR ALL TRANSGENDERS.

SOME PEOPLE GET RATHER EXTENSIVE SURGERY AND SOME PEOPLE GET VIRTUALLY NO SURGERY.

IT IS NOT A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL.

AND THE COSTS ARE LESS OR NO MORE THAN OTHER SURGERIES, CERTAINLY THE ARMED FORCES SPEND MORE ON VIAGRA THAN THEY WILL ON TRANSGENDER MEDICAL CARE.

SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

ABOVE ALL YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON AND DETERMINE WHATEVER IT IS THEY ARE DOING DO THEY REMAIN A NET GAIN FOR THE ARMED FORCES.

>> YOU WROTE AN OP-ED IN THE "WASHINGTON POST" AS YOU'VE SUPPORTED REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVE CAUSES, YOU'VE CALLED YOURSELF A SMALL GOVERNMENT CONSERVATIVE BUT YOU CANNOT SUPPORT THE PARTY IN 2020 BECAUSE IT'S IMAGE INALIZING YOU OUT OF THE SYSTEM.

DO YOU STILL CONSIDER YOURSELF A REPUBLICAN?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO.

AND I THINK THERE ARE REPUBLICANS THAT I CAN STILL SUPPORT AND THERE ARE CONCEPTS THAT I CAN SUPPORT.

BUT THE EXTREME RIGHT-WING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE IF THEY WANT TO WIN IN 2022 AND THE CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS OR 2024 IN THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

AMONG OTHER THINGS I THINK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY NEEDS TO GET OUT OF THE BATHROOM AND OUT OF THE LOCKER ROOM.

>> YOU ARE SAYING STOP FOCUSING ON THOSE ISSUES OF RESTROOMS, WHOSE WHO CAN USE WHAT BATHROOM.

THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE WITH YOU YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE SERVING YEARS OF HONORABLE SERVICE AS A MAN NOT ABLE TO SERVE COMING OUT.

CAN YOU RECOUNT FOR US WHAT THAT WAS LIKE?

AND WHAT YOU GO THROUGH?

>> WELL, YOU LEAVE FRACTURED COMPARTMENTALIZED LIFE.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE A PART OF YOURSELF AND ISOLATE IT FROM EVERYTHING ELSE.

IF YOU WANT TO EXPRESS YOURSELF AT ALL, FOR EXAMPLE, WEARING WHAT I'M WEARING RIGHT NOW, IF I HAD SHOWN UP ON POST DRESSED AS I AM NOW, THAT ALONE WOULD HAVE ENDED MY CAREER.

JUST THAT ALONE.

SO IF I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I HAD TO GET SIGNIFICANT SEPARATION FROM THE FLAG POLE, BE SOME DISTANCE AWAY FROM POST WHERE I WOULD BE REASONABLY CERTAIN THAT NOBODY WOULD RECOGNIZE ME.

IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE BACK THEN TO FILL OUT A DA31 THAT IS A FORM FOR LEAVE AND SAY TO MY FIRST SERGEANT OR COMPANY COMMANDER I'M GOING ON LEAVE FOR A COUPLE WEEKS TO EXPERIMENT.

>> CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING YOU WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING BACK THEN.

WHAT IS YOUR ADVICE TO SERVICE MEMBERS PERHAPS IN THAT PREDICAMENT RIGHT NOW OR LGBTQ OR FOLKS THAT ARE TRANSGENDERED AND ARE AFRAID TO SERVE EVEN IF THEY WANT TO FOR THAT REASON?

>> WELL, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE CANDID ABOUT IT.

BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD LINEUP SUPPORT TO DO SO.

IN OTHER WORDS DON'T TRY TO CARRY THE LOAD YOURSELF.

FIND SOME SORT OF SUPPORT GROUP, FIND A LICENSED HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS WHO CAN EXPLAIN TO YOUR CHAIN OF COMMAND WHAT YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH SO THAT YOU HAVE MORE CREDIBILITY AND THAT YOU'RE INDICATING TO YOUR CHAIN OF COMMAND YOU ARE NOT DOING THIS ON A WHIM.

YOU'VE CONSULTED WITH LICENSED PROFESSIONAL HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS.

YOU'VE ENLISTED THE AID OF SUPPORT GROUPS THAT HAVE CREDIBILITY.

DON'T TRY TO DO THE WHOLE THING BY YOURSELF.

AND TOO OFTEN IN THE PAST WE HAD TO DO THIS ALL BY OURSELVES.

NOW, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SUPPORT GROUPS AVAILABLE.

NOW, YOU HAVE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE W PATH, WORLD PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR TRANSGENDER HEALTH, THAT YOU CAN CONSULT WITH THE FULL RANGE OF HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE BETTER EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE.

I THINK THEY CAN REDUCE -- I THINK IF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND WILL CONSULT WITH PEOPLE LIKE THAT MUCH OF THEIR ANXIETY WILL BE REDUCED AND THE WHOLE ISSUE CAN BE HANDLED IN A MORE RATIONAL, MEDICAL, ORDERLY MANNER.

>> ALL RIGHT.

GOOD WORDS TO END ON.

COLONEL PRITZKER THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND UP NEXT, NORTH CHICAGO GETS ITS FIRST FULL SERVICE GROCERY STORE IN 20 YEARS.

WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG?

STICK AROUND.

>> UNLIKE SOME AFFLUENT NEIGHBORS THE CITY OF NORTH CHICAGO IS A DIVERSE LOW INCOME COMMUNITY WITH FEW IF ANY AFFORDABLE OPTIONS FOR FRESH NUTRITIOUS FOOD.

A MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS ONE QUARTER OF THE AVERAGE INCOME OF LAKE BLUFF TO THE SOUTH AND THAT IS ACCORDING TO U.S. CENSUS NUMBERS.

TO FEED THE NEED OF RESIDENTS NORTH CHICAGO IS GETTING ITS FIRST FULL SERVICE GROCERY STORE IN DECADES.

"CHICAGO TONIGHT'S" EVAN GARCIA WENT TO GEORGE'S FRESH MARKET TO LEARN MORE.

>> IN THIS SPACE WE ARE GOING TO OFFER FRESH PRODUCE FROM ACROSS THE WORLD THAT WILL BE OUR HIGHLIGHT AND MEATS, AND BEEF, PORK, CHICKEN, LAMB, GOAT AND HAVE HA LAL.

WE WILL HAVE SEAFOOD FRESH FROM ACROSS THE WORLD.

>> 38-YEAR-OLD PETER DREMONAS GREW UP IN THE GROCERY STORE INDUSTRY.

HIS FATHER IS PETE OF THE PETE'S FRESH MARKET CHAIN.

NOW, PETER DREMONAS AND HIS FRIEND AND BUSINESS PARTNER GEORGE ANDERSON ARE PLANNING TO OPEN A STORE OF THEIR OWN.

>> GEORGE'S FRESH MARKET IS ME AND PETE'S FIRST OF MANY GROCERY STORES THAT WE OPENING UP AND BRINGING TO NORTH CIVMENT.

>> LOCATED ABOUT 40 MILES FROM THE CITY, NORTH CHICAGO IS CONSIDERED A FOOD DESERT OR AN AREA WITH LIMITED OR NO ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE AND NUTRITIOUS FOOD.

>> THAT BACK WALL WILL BE THE DAIRY.

>> GEORGE'S FRESH MARKET WILL BE THE FIRST FULL SERVICE GROCERY STORE IN NORTH CHICAGO FOR 20 YEARS.

ACCORDING TO MAYOR LEON ROCKINGHAM.

>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO ME.

MAYOR WE NEED A GROCERY STORE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

>> TO ATTRACT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND INSURE GEORGE'S FRESH MARKET STICKS AROUND, THE CITY OF NORTH CHICAGO IS LOANING THE BUSINESS $300,000 TO BE FORGIVEN IN A DECADE.

>> IT IS A 10-YEAR LOAN BASICALLY, AND AS LONG AS HE IS HERE WITHIN THE 10 YEARS AFTER THAT 10TH YEAR, THE LOAN IS FORGIVEN.

IF FOR ANY REASON HE WOULD LEAVE AT THAT POINT, HE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND REPAY FROM THAT POINT ON.

>> MEANWHILE, PETER AND GEORGE SAY THEY ARE IN NORTH CHICAGO FOR THE LONG-HAUL.

>> GEORGE AND I PLAN TO HAVE OUR KIDS FILL OUR SHOES.

THAT IS THE DREAM HERE.

JUST HAVE KEEP IT GOING.

>> JUST A FEW MILES NORTH UP LEWIS AVENUE THERE'S SUPERMARKET FOR NORTH CHICAGOANS IN WAUKEGAN BUT THE MAYOR SAYS THAT PUTS UNDUE STRESS ON NORTH CHICAGOANS WALLETS AND KEEPS TAX DOLLARS OUT OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

>> BRINGING SOMETHING LIKE THIS INTO OUR COMMUNITY HELPS THE RESIDENTS OF NORTH CHICAGO.

SOME OF THOSE IN NORTH CHICAGO DOESN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO GET THEIR FOOD.

BRINGING IT CLOSER, GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO KEEP MORE OF THEIR RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE.

ADDITIONALLY, IT BRINGS IN REVENUE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

MORE TAX DOLLARS MORE SALES TAX DOLLARS FOR THE CITY OF NORTH CHICAGO.

>> WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO, GEORGE'S FRESH MARKET COULD GET MUCH BIGGER.

THE OWNERS PLAN TO EXPAND INTO THE BANQUET HALL NEXT DOOR.

FOR "CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M EVAN GARCIA.

>> PETER AND GEORGE EXPECT GEORGE'S FRESH MARKET TO OPEN IN APRIL IN THE BUILDING THE PAIR WILL RUN A HAROLD'S SHRIMP AND CHICKEN RESTAURANT SET TO OPEN NEXT MONTH.

THE OVERALL PROJECT WILL CREATE 40-50 FULL AND PART-TIME JOBS IN NORTH CHICAGO.

>> AND STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO TONIGHT", THERE IS A CRUNCHY SOUND WHEN WE WALK IN THE SNOW.

WE DIVE INTO THE SCIENCE BEHIND THE CRUNCH.

AND NASA'S LATEST MISSION TO MARS ARRIVES AT THE PLANET SEARCHING FOR SIGNS OF ANCIENT LIFE EQUIPPED WITH A HELICOPTER DRONE.

>> I MIGHT HAVE MORE PATIENCE FOR THEIR HYPOCRISY BUT THIS IS NOT A NORMAL YEAR.

>> WE WILL HAVE MORE ABOUT GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER AND HIM TAKING AIM AT REPUBLICANS DURING HIS BUDGET ADDRESS.

OUR SPOTLIGHT POLITICS TEAM BREAKS THAT DOWN AND MORE.

>> BUT FIRST MORE OF TODAY'S TOP STORIES.

POPULAR TALK RADIO HOST AND CONSERVATIVE PRO ADVOCATE TOUR RUSH LIMBAUGH HAS DIED.

HIS SHOW WAS A LONGTIME FIXTURE ON 890AM HE WAS INDUCTED INTO THE RADIO HALL OF FAME IN 1993.

LIMBAUGH ANNOUNCED FEBRUARY HE HAD BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH LUNG CANCER.

RUSH LIMBAUGH WAS 70 YEARS OLD.

ILLINOIS HEALTH OFFICIALS ANNOUNCE 1800 ADDITIONAL CASES OF CORONAVIRUS.

AND 24 MORE DEATHS.

THE STATE HAS NOW SEEN 1.16 MILLION CASES AND 20,057 DEATHS.

THE STATE'S POSITIVITY RATE IS 3.4%.

>> 41 PUBLIC MONUMENTS IN CHICAGO ARE FLAGGED BY A CITY COMMISSION AS POSSIBLY PROBLEMATIC AFTER WIDESPREAD RACIAL JUSTICE PROTESTS INCLUDED ATTEMPTS TO TEAR DOWN STATUES OF CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS, THE CITY LAUNCHED A REVIEW OF ALL 500 MONUMENTS AS PART OF A RACIAL HEALING.

TODAY THE CITY RELEASED A LIST OF STATUES FLAGGED INCLUDING MILITARY LEADERS, NATIVE-AMERICANS AND CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS THERE IS A LINK TO THE LIST ON OUR WEBSITE.

>> A POPULAR AND FAMILIAR FACE IS SET TO RETURN TO THE CUBS.

34-YEAR-OLD RIGHT-HANDER, JAKE ARRIETA AGREED TO A ONE-YEAR DEAL TO COMEBACK WITH A MUTUAL OPTION FOR A SECOND YEAR.

THE FORMER ALL-STAR AND CY YOUNG AWARD WINNER WAS A KEY PART OF THE CUBS' WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP IN 2016.

HE SPENT THE LAST THREE SEASONS WITH THE PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES.

THE SHEDD AQUARIUM'S YOUNGEST DOLPHIN HAS A NAME.

THE PACIFIC WHITESIDEED DOLPHIN WAS BORN AUGUST 31 AND WILL BE KNOWN AS HARMONY.

THE SHEDD SAYS THE NAME REPRESENTS A BALANCE OF HUMANS AND ANIMALS LIVING TOGETHER ON THE PLANET.

AND WE HAVE MORE ABOUT THIS STORY ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE NEVER ENDING SNOWFALL WITH ANOTHER DUSTING FORECAST FOR TONIGHT.

JUST HOW MANY INCHES HAVE WE RECEIVED SO FAR THIS YEAR?

OH, AND EVER THOUGHT WHY SNOW MAKES THAT CRUNCHY SOUND WHEN WE WALK?

PATTY WETLI JOINS US NOW.

REMIND US HOW MANY INCHES OF SNOW CHICAGO HAS SEEN SO FAR AND THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS MUCH OF A SNOWPACK?

>> WE'VE GOTTEN AROUND 43 INCHES FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON.

BUT 34 OF THOSE INCHES HAVE FALLEN WITHIN THE LAST THREE WEEKS.

SO IF PEOPLE ARE FEELING LIKE WE'VE BEEN GETTING HAMMERED THEY ARE RIGHT.

AND WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT MUCH SNOW IN THAT SHORT A SPAN OF TIME SINCE THE WINTER OF '78, '79 WHICH JUST TO FRIGHTEN PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT THAT WINTER WE ENDED UP WITH 80 INCHES OF SNOW TOTAL.

IF WE ARE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION, FREAK OUT.

DON'T PUT YOUR SHOVEL AWAY.

>> AND POLITICIANS FREAK OUT BECAUSE THERE WAS FALLOUT WITH THAT, TOO.

MOVING ON TO THE HARD HITTING INVESTIGATIVE QUESTION ON EVERYBODY'S MIND WHY DOES SNOW MAKE THAT CRUNCHY SOUND WHEN YOU WALK ON IT?

>> YOU THINK IT'S COTTONY BUT IT'S ICE CRYSTALS AND THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY AIR.

AND WHEN YOU COME PRESS THEM, THE ICE CRYSTALS SCRAPE AGAINST EACH OTHER AND CREATE FRICTION AND THAT MAKES THAT CRUNCHING SOUND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S COLD OUT.

WHEN IT'S WARMER THERE IS LESS FRICTION AND WHEN YOU ARE STEPPING ON THE SNOW IT DOESN'T MAKE QUITE THE SAME CRUNCH.

SO COLD SNOW EQUALS CRUNCH THAT IS WHY IT'S BEEN SO CRUNCHY LATELY.

>> COLD SNOW EQUALS CRUNCH NOT SO COLD SNOW NO CRUNCH.

NOW YOU KNOW.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANYTIME.

>> AND YOU CAN READ THE STORIES ON WTTW.COM/NEWS.

>> U.S. IS IN ANOTHER SPACE RACE THIS TIME TO FIND EVIDENCE OF LIFE ON THE RED PLANET.

TOMORROW AFTERNOON JUST BEFORE 3:00 P.M., NASA'S MISSION IS SCHEDULED TO LAND ANOTHER ROVING LABORATORY ON MARS.

THIS ONE DESIGNED TO SEARCH FOR ANY SIGNS OF ANCIENT LIFE ON THAT PLANET.

NASA WILL NOT BE ALONE.

CHINA PUT A SPACECRAFT IN ORBIT AROUND MARS AND PLANS TO PUT ITS OWN ROVER ON THE SURFACE.

WE WELCOME BACK LOCAL ASTRONOMER AND ENTHUSIAST, YOU CAN TELL BY THE POSTER BEHIND YOU, MARK HAMMERGREN WHO WILL BE DOING A Facebook LIVE EVENT FOR THE PERSEVERANCE LANDING TOMORROW.

GREAT TO SEE YOU.

IF ALL GOES WELL IT WILL LAND AROUND 3:00 P.M.

TOMORROW AFTERNOON.

GIVE US AN OVERVIEW ABOUT THIS MISSION.

>> THE MARS PERSEVERANCE ROVER WILL LAND TOMORROW AFTERNOON ABOUT 3:00 P.M. CENTRAL TIME.

IT'S BEEN GOING HEADING TOWARDS MARS FOR OVER SIX MONTHS NOW.

THE ROVER ITSELF IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER VERSION OF THE CURIOSITY ROVER THAT IS CURRENTLY OPERATING ON MARS THAT LANDED LIKE NINE YEARS AGO.

AND IT'S A NUCLEAR POWERED.

IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRAVEL FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS EXAMINING ROCKS, LOOKING DIRECTLY FOR EVIDENCE OF PAST LIFE ON MARS.

>> AND SO IT'S LANDING AT THIS AREA CALLED THE CRATER WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A CHALLENGING PLACE TO LAND.

WHY IS IT LANDING THERE?

AND TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGE OF THE LANDING.

>> SO GEOLOGISTS OR AERIAL OBVIOUSLYISTS THE MARTIAN COUNTERPARTS THEY AND THE ENGINEERS WHO OPERATE THE SPACECRAFT HAVE OPPOSITE PINS WHERE THEY SHOULD GO.

THE GEOLOGISTS WANT TO SEE INTERESTING ROCK FORMATIONS, EXPOSED ROCK FACES THAT REVEAL THE HISTORY OF MARS.

THE ENGINEERS WANT TO AS FLAT AS AREA AS POSSIBLE UNINTERESTING AS POSSIBLE.

SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPROMISE SOME AND LAND CLOSE TO THE CLIFFS AND BOULDERS THAT MAKEUP THEIR TARGETS FOR THIS MISSION.

>> THAT IS WHERE YOU MIGHT FIND THE MATERIALS THAT WILL GIVE CLUES TO ANCIENT LIFE.

AND THE ROVER WILL BE EQUIPPED WITH AMAZING TOOLS.

25 CAMERAS, AND A HELICOPTER DRONE THAT SCIENTISTS WILL BE ABLE TO CONTROL ON EARTH TO GO EXPLORE.

TELL US ABOUT THE TOOLS >> YES, SO THE ROVER IS BASICALLY, A ROBOTIC COUNTERPART OF A HUMAN GEOLOGIST GOING TO MARS THE TOOLS REFLECT THAT YOU HAVE THE EYES TO SCAN THE TERRAIN AND LOOK FOR INTERESTING ROCKS.

THEN YOU GOT THE WHEELS TO MOVE YOU.

YOU CHECK THINGS OUT AND THEN ONCE YOU IDENTIFY LIKELY TARGETS AND THEY HAVE A TOOL THAT GEOLOGISTS HERE DON'T, THIS LASER POWERED A LASER SAPPER THAT WILL IDENTIFY THE COMPOSITION OF ROCKS MANY AND WHEN YOU GET SOMETHING INTERESTING YOU LOOK UP CLOSE AND YOU CAN ANALYZE THE COMPOSITION AND LOOK FOR ORGANIC MOLECULES IN THE LAYERS OF ROCK ITSELF AND HOPEFULLY EVEN FIND THINGS THAT LOOK LIKE FOSSIL LIFE IT THERE.

>> AND SO THAT IS HOW IT'S GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

AND MARK, I WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT IF YOU HAD TO BET DO YOU THINK IT WILL FIND SOME SIGNS OF ANCIENT LIFE ON MARS?

AND WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE?

>> IT'S REALLY TOUGH.

I'VE DONE A LOT OF FIELD WORK CRACKING ROCKS OPEN AND LOOKING FOR FOSSILS.

AND IT'S A VERY DICEY PROPOSITION.

YOU HAVE TO SPEND A THE OF TIME DOING THAT.

THE CHANCES THAT THEY WILL FIND REAL FOSSILS SITTING THERE, THAT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY.

BUT I TELL YOU, THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO LOOK FOR IT.

THE CRATER, 30-MILE WIDE CRATER USED TO BE A LAKE AND THEY ARE LANDING IN A DELTA DEPOSIT OF DIRT AND MUD.

THAT GOT WASHED OUT IN A RIVER.

THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO LOOK FOR SIGNS OF LIFE.

>> IF IT USED TO BE A LAKE AND GOT WASHED OUT THAT WOULD SIGNAL THERE WAS SOME ORGANIC MATERIAL AT SOME TIME AND AS I UNDERSTAND NASA WILL BRING SAMPLES BACK TO EARTH TO ANALYZE.

HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK?

>> THAT IS A MAJOR GOAL OF THIS MISSION.

IN ADDITION TO IDENTIFYING AND LOOKING AT THE ROCKS THEY WILL TAKE CORE SAMPLES WITH THE ROVER AND PULL THOSE OUT STORE THEM, CASH THEM AND WHEN THEY GET A CERTAIN NUMBER THEY WILL DEPOSIT THEM IN JUST LITTLE DROP BOXES THAT A FUTURE MISSION MIGHT BE ABLE TO PICK UP AND RETURN TO EARTH AS A SAMPLE RETURN MISSION.

THOSE ARE ALWAYS GREAT.

BECAUSE YOU CAN BRING TO BEAR THE ENTIRE WORLD'S SCIENTIFIC EQUIPMENT AND EXPERTISE ON THOSE SAMPLES.

>> I GET A FEELING JEFF BEZOS WOULD WANT TO GET IN ON AN OPERATION LIKE THAT.

AS THIS IS HAPPENING CHINA IS ALSO UNDERGOING A MISSION TO MARS.

TELL US WHAT THEIR MISSION IS AIMING TO FIND?

>> SO THE TIE WANT TEE ANTI ANEN WITH.

TIANWEN I DON'T SEE ANY SUCCESSFUL MISSION BY CHINA TO MARS IN THE PAST.

THEY HAD ONE ON A RUSSIAN SPACECRAFT THAT BLEW UP.

BUT THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR MUCH THE SAME THINGS THAT NASA IS.

THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT THE BIG QUESTIONS: WHAT WAS THE HISTORY OF MARS?

WHAT WAS THE HISTORY OF LIFE ON MARS?

SO BUT THEY PLAY THINGS REALLY CLOSE AND THEY HAVE NOT REVEALED WHAT INSTRUMENTS ARE ON THAT ROVER.

>> AND NOT TO BE OUTDONE, THE UAE HAS THE HOPE MISSION TO MARS.

ALL THESE MISSIONS ARE THEY COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER OR COMPLIMENTARY?

>> THEY ARE MOSTLY COMPLIMENTARY.

SCIENCE IS A TRULY INTERNATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND ENDEAVOR.

AND SCIENTISTS LOVE SHARING DATA.

IT'S ANTI-THREAT CAL TO OUR BELIEFS TO KEEP THINGS SECRET.

IN ADDITION TO THAT COLLABORATION AND SOMETIMES DIRECTLY BY PUTTING INSTRUMENTS ON OTHER PEOPLE'S SPACECRAFTS, THERE IS A CERTAIN SENSE OF COMPETITION BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO THE SCIENCE THERE'S A POLITICAL ELEMENT.

INTERNAL POLITICS TRY TO KEEP YOUR PEOPLE HAPPY AND SHOW THEM THAT YOU ARE THE SUPERPOWER AND EXTERNALLY SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD IN THE CASE OF THE EMIRATES, THEY ARE MOVING AWAY FROM AN ECONOMY BASED ON PHYSICAL RESOURCES TO A MODERN ECONOMY BASED ON TECHNOLOGY AND KNOWLEDGE AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO SEND THAT MESSAGE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

WELL, YOU ARE GOING TO BE BROADCASTING YOUR MESSAGE AS ON Facebook TOMORROW.

MARK HAMMERGREN THANK YOU.

>> GOOD TO BE HERE.

>> UP NEXT OUR SPOTLIGHT POLITICS TEAM TACKLES THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET ADDRESS SO PLEASE STAY WITH US.

>> THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET ADDRESS WITH NO INCOME TAX HIKE WITH CONGRESSMAN ADAM KINZINGER AWARD BY TIME MAGAZINE THOSE THINGS ARE IN THE FOCUS OF OUR SPOTLIGHT POLITICS TONIGHT AND HERE WITH ALL OF THAT AND MORE ARE AMANDA VINICKY AND HEATHER CHERONE.

GREAT TO SEE YOU BOTH.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER SAID IN HIS VIRTUAL BUDGET ADDRESS THAT YOU FEATURED EARLIER.

AND THEN WHAT G.O.P.

LEADER JIM DURKIN SAID ABOUT THE BUDGET NEGOTIATIONS.

>> TWO MONTHS AGO, I ASKED REPUBLICANS IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY FOR THEIR PROPOSALS TO CLOSE THIS YEAR'S BUDGET DEFICIT.

I WAS MET WITH SILENCE.

APPARENTLY THEIR IDEA OF BIPARTISANSHIP ENDS WHEN HARD CHOICES MUST BE MADE.

>> UNTIL WE KNOW WHERE THE GOVERNOR PLANS TO CUT WITHIN STATE AGENCIES, WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO PROVIDE ANYTHING MORE.

>> AMANDA, BOTTOM LINE NO NEW INCOME TAXES BUT CLOSING A BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF -- A BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF CORPORATE LOOPHOLES?

>> THIS IS A VARIETY OF AS THE GOVERNOR CALL IT IS CORPORATE LOOPHOLES, BUSINESSES REPUBLICANS SAY IT AMOUNTS TO A TAX INCREASE AND THEY SAY REVENGE FOR REPUBLICANS' PART IN THE DEFEATING THE GRADUATED INCOME TAX THAT PRITZKER HAD WANTED.

WE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO DIRECTLY ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF THE GOVERNOR.

BUT HE MIGHT VERY WELL MAYBE HE WOULD NOT USE THE WORD REVENGE HE WOULD SAY YEAH, I TOLD YOU THERE WOULD BE CONSEQUENCES SHOULD THE GRADUATED INCOME TAX CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT FAIL AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

WE CANNOT FORGET THAT THE GOVERNOR IS HEADING INTO REELECTION AND THAT AN INCOME TAX INCREASE AS EVIDENCED BY THE GRADUATED AMENDMENT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL GO OVER WELL WITH ILLINOISANS YET THERE ARE A LOT OF GROUPS IN THE GOVERNOR'S FACE THAT WANT ADDITIONAL SPENDING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT HE HAS PROPOSED IN THIS LARGELY A FLAT BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

>> HEATHER CHERONE YOU HEAR AMANDA SAYING SOME FOLKS ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE OF THE AISLE MAY WANT MORE SPENDING.

YOU HEAR REPUBLICANS SAYING CUT MORE SPENDING IS THIS BUDGET GOING TO BE A HEAVY LIFT?

>> WELL, IT WON'T BE AS A HEAVY LIFT AS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF IT INCLUDED AN INCOME TAX.

AND LET'S NOT FORGET A COUPLE MONTHS THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE DEFICIT WAS $5.5 BILLION.

THE BUDGET DEFICIT IS NOW PROJECTED TO BE CLOSER TO $3 BILLION.

YES IT IS A LOT OF MONEY HOWEVER YOU COUNT IT.

BUT IT IS EASIER TO CLOSE A $3 BILLION DEFICIT RATHER THAN A $5.5 BILLION DEFICIT THAT IS WHY GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER WAS ABLE TO TAKE THE INCOME TAX HIKE OFF THE TABLE AND PUT THE CLOSURE OF IT ON THE END OF TAX CREDITS OR LOOPHOLES HOWEVER YOU CUT IT AND IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE DEMOCRATIC SUPER MAJORITIES IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE TO SWALLOW NOT GETTING AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY WANTED FOR EDUCATION OR SOCIAL SERVICES WHEN THEY KNOW THAT THEY WON'T HAVE TO TAKE THAT TAX HIKE VOTE BEFORE THEY START TO LOOK AT REELECTION.

>> ONE.

THINGS WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE YET IS THE FEDERAL AID COMING TO THE STATE'S WAY.

WE DID INTERVIEW RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI LAST NIGHT AND HERE IS WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE FEDERAL CASH INFUSION COMING IF THE STIMULUS PLAN PASSES.

>> $13.2 BILLION OVERALL WILL COME TO ILLINOIS.

THE STATE OF ILLINOIS WILL GET 7.5 BILLION.

THE CITY OF CHICAGO WILL RECEIVE 1.8 BILLION.

COOK COUNTY WILL RECEIVE 1 BILLION.

AND THE MUNICIPALITIES AND VILLAGE ALSO RECEIVE THE REST.

>> STARTING TO THE STATE HOW DOES THAT 7.5 BILLION HOW DOES THAT AFFECT ILLINOIS' BUDGET?

>> WELL, RIGHT NOW, THE GOVERNOR'S BLUEPRINT DOESN'T BANK ON THAT MONEY COMING THROUGH.

IN PART HE CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE OF ILLINOIS LAW AND WHAT YOU CAN BAKE INTO A BUDGET.

HE HAS SAID THAT IT NEEDS TO GO TOWARDS COVID RESPONSE AND IT WOULD, AGAIN, MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND FREE UP FUNDING TO GO ELSEWHERE.

YOU WERE ONE OF THE MAJOR CRIES FROM DEMOCRATS THEY WANT MORE MONEY GOING INTO EDUCATION.

THE GOVERNOR SAID THAT ALL OF THAT INCREASE WOULD COME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEY SAY WE WANT MORE.

AND THE GOVERNOR IS TRYING TO BE CAREFUL HEEDING THE WARNING ISSUED BY A DEMOCRAT COMPTROLLER MENDOZA THIS WOULD BE A ONE-TIME PAYMENT SO YOU CANNOT PUT TOO MUCH INTO OPERATIONS THERE AND THIS WOULD BE PUT INTO BORROWING BILL BACKLOG AND THAT IS WHERE THE GOVERNOR GETS INTO SAYING MAYBE WE CAN PUT THAT TOWARDS JOB GROWTH.

>> A LOT OF BORROWING HAS TO BE PAID DOWN.

HEATHER CHERONE WHAT ABOUT THE 1.8 BILLION POSSIBLY COMING TO THE CITY OF CHICAGO.

HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO THE BUDGET PLANS?

>> WELL, MAYOR LORI LIGHTFOOT SAID ALL ALONG IF THE CITY GETS ANOTHER FEDERAL RELIEF PACKAGE THE FIRST PRIORITY WOULD BE TO CANCEL SOME OF THE BORROWING THE CITY HAD TO APPROVE TO CLOSE THE SHORTFALL IN 2021 ON TOP OF AN 800 MILLION SHORTFALL IN 2020.

SO THE BUDGET THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A FEW SHORT MONTHS AGO INCLUDED $1.7 BILLION IN BORROWING AND IT WAS STRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT IT WOULD MEAN TAKING ON POTENTIALLY HIGHER INTEREST RATE TO GET MONEY FASTER AND THAT SOMETIMES CALLED SCOOP AND TOSS.

AND THAT IS A REALLY REVILED BUDGETARY GIMMICK THAT WILL COST TAXPAYERS MORE IN THE LONG-RUN.

THE MAYOR SAID SHE IS HOPING TO BE ABLE TO CANCEL SOME OF THAT BUT NO DOUBT THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE SHE PUSHED THROUGH ON THE NARROWEST POSSIBLE MARGINS WHICH RAISED ABOUT $96 MILLION ON PROPERTY OWNERS IN CHICAGO.

SO THAT IS NO DOUBT GOING TO BE A BIG FIGHT GOING FORWARD.

>> AND PROPERTY TAXES WERE NOT PART OF THIS.

PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION WE HEAR ABOUT ALL THE TIME FROM ILLINOIS RESIDENTS AND THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS STATE BUDGET.

>> 1.7 BILLION BORROW, 1.8 BILLION POSSIBLY COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND WE SHOULD MENTION THERE'S BEEN ALDERMEN CROW BEING HOW THE LAST BATCH OF FEDERAL RELIEF HAS BEEN SPENT AND THEY PLAN TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT TOMORROW.

AMANDA, LET'S TALK ABOUT POLITICS.

THERE IS A REPUBLICAN THAT HAS ANNOUNCED A RUN FOR GOVERNOR ON THE G.O.P.

TICKET AGAINST GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER.

WHO IS HE?

AND TALK ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE RAMPING UP AGAINST PRITZKER?

>> IT BEGINS ALREADY.

YOU HAVE THE STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY COMING FORWARD WITH A FIRE PRITZKER CAMPAIGN.

SO THAT HAS STARTED THIS REPUBLICAN WHO HAS THUS FAR DECLARED THAT HE IS GOING TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR THAT IS HE IS A MARINE VETERAN HE DID TRY TO RUN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL HE HAS EXPERIENCE RUNNING STATE-WIDE NOT SUCCESSFUL THOUGH THAT WAS A RACE WON BY LISA MADIGAN.

AND HE DID SERVE IN THE STATE SENATE.

WAS ABLE TO RUN AGAINST A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WOULD CONSIDER A FORMIDABLE OPPONENT IN FORMER LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR SHEILA SIMON.

PAUL NO LONGER A STATE SENATOR.

HE STEPPED BACK FROM RUNNING FOR REELECTION THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO GET A JUDGE APPOINTMENT UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

IT BEGINS ANOTHER, BY THE WAY, CURRENT STATE SENATOR'S NAME HE HAD BEEN A STATE REP DARREN BAILEY IS EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE A RUN FOR GOVERNOR NEXT WEEK.

AND HE IS THE LEGISLATOR WHO HAS BEEN TAKING THE LEAD SAYING NO TO MANY OF THE PRITZKER'S COVID RESTRICTIONS PARTICULARLY MASK REQUIREMENTS.

>> AND PRITZKER HAS NOT BEEN HAPPY WITH SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES OF REPRESENTATIVE BAILEY SENATOR BAILEY AND FILING LAWSUITS AGAINST SOME OF THE CLOSINGS.

LET'S SWITCH OVER AND SHINE OUR SPOTLIGHT ON CONGRESSMAN ADAM KINZINGER WHO MADE TIME 100 NEXT LIST FOR THE MISSION TO FIX THE G.O.P.

HERE IS WHAT HE TWEETED... HEATHER CHERONE, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE TALKED TO CONGRESSMAN ADAM KINZINGER'S DISTRICT IS OUTSIDE OF THE CHICAGO AREA.

HE HAS TALKED "THE NEW YORK TIMES" NOW TIME MAGAZINE, THE ATLANTIC, "WASHINGTON POST", IS THERE A RISK OF OVEREXPOSURE HERE IN THE NATIONAL MEDIA?

>> THERE SURE IS.

BECAUSE THIS IS ALL SORT OF PART OF A CONCERTED EFFORT TO CHART A NON-TRUMP DEFINED COURSE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND I THINK ADAM KINZINGER IS GOING TO BE A REALLY IMPORTANT TEST CASE.

BUT HE DOES RISK BECOMING THAT POSTER BOY IN OPPOSITION FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND WE'VE SEEN THAT NOT ONLY IS HE FACING CRITICISM FROM CONSTITUENTS AND ILLINOIS RESIDENTS BUT HIS OWN FAMILY WHO DISOWNED HIM FROM [INAUDIBLE] IT COMES WITH THE SPOTLIGHT AND THE 64,000 DOLLAR QUESTION IS WILL HE TRY TO PARLAY THAT INTO STATE-WIDE OFFICE?

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 2022 ELECTIONS AND THERE IS A LOT OF SPECULATION THAT HE WILL BE A CANDIDATE EVEN THOUGH HE SAYS THAT HE WILL NOT BE.

>> SOME IF HE IS A CANDIDATE, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY THAT WON'T BE VOTING FOR HIM.

WE SAW THE LETTER THAT THEY SENT TO HIM WHICH WAS VERY ROUGH FOR HIS OPPOSITION TO DONALD TRUMP AFTER THE ELECTION.

AMANDA, TELL US ABOUT SOME OF THE CONTENT THERE?

>> I MEAN, AS YOU SAID THEY SAID MY WORDS NOT THEIRS, [INAUDIBLE] AND LOYALISTS.

THIS IS I THINK EMBLEMATIC AT THE FAMILY STORYLINE IS AN INTERESTING ONE BECAUSE IT CUTS TO THE HEART OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A POLITICIAN.

AND AT THE SAME TIME I THINK AS HEGHTDER SAID, THE BIGGER STORY IS WHAT THIS SAYS FOR THE FUTURE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

THIS IS A BATTLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE VERY MUCH PLAY OUT IN ILLINOIS IN HIS DISTRICT.

HOW MUCH MONEY, I THINK THAT THE COUNTRY FIRST PACT THAT ADAM KINZINGER IS STARTING UP AND WHO IS GOING TO COME THROUGH WITH THE DOLLARS TO FUND THAT.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT REALLY NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO.

>> YOU HEARD COLONEL PRITZKER IN THE SHOW SAYING SHE DIDN'T WANT TO SUPPORT ANY OF THE FAR RIGHT CANDIDATES AND SHE HAS BEEN A LIFELONG REPUBLICAN.

SO IN ILLINOIS CERTAINLY RIGHT THERE, THE PRITZKER FAMILY.

HEATHER CHERONE, THE OTHER POINT I WANT TO MAKE ABOUT ADAM KINZINGER, IN ALL THE MEDIA OUTLETS I WONDER IF HE DOES MORE GOOD IF HE GOES ON FOX NEWS WHERE THE CONSERVATIVE BASE AUDIENCE IS AND IF HE WANTS TO PICKOFF SOME OF THE VOTERS THAT MIGHT BE A MORE FERTILE PLACE TO DO IT AND WE HAVE BEEN INVITING ADAM KINZINGER ON THE SHOW FOR WEEKS.

HE WAS ON JANUARY 6 DURING THE CAPITOL INSURRECTION AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING ALL CONGRESS FOLKS ON BUT CONGRESSMAN ADAM KINZINGER INVITES IS ALWAYS OUT THERE.

LET'S MOVE ON TO C.P.S.

MAYOR IS MAKING WAVES NOW AGAINST AN ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD SHE RAN PRETTY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF HAVING ONE.

WHAT IS SHE SAYING NOW?

>> WELL, IT'S ALWAYS EASIER TO PROMISE DURING A CAMPAIGN THAN TO DELIVER WHILE IN OFFICE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE OF THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS.

THE MAYOR WAS NEVER REALLY IN FAVOR OF THE BILL THAT HAS BEEN FLOATING AROUND THE STATE HOUSE FOR MANY YEARS NOW.

IT WOULD CREATE A 21-MEMBER ELECTED BOARD.

AND THE MAYOR HAS ALWAYS SAID SHE HAS ISSUES WITH IT INCLUDING THE FACT IT WOULD NOT SET ASIDE SEATS FOR PARENTS.

AND SHE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT ON INSISTING THAT PARENTS HAVE A LARGE ROLE IN THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

BUT SHE ABSOLUTELY CAMPAIGNED ON ENDING THE MAYORAL CONTROL OF SCHOOLS WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1995.

AND IT IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR, MAJOR ISSUE AS SHE PREPARES TO RUN FOR REELECTION POTENTIALLY IN 2023 BECAUSE THIS WAS A CENTRAL ARGUMENT OF THE PROGRESSIVES WHO WANTED SOMEBODY WHO WANTED A MAYOR WHO WOULD RELINQUISH POWER OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IT'S EASY TO GIVE -- HARDER TO GIVE UP POWER BECAUSE AS THE MAYOR SAID SHE THOUGHT THAT IF THERE HAD BEEN A SCHOOL BOARD IN CHARGE OF REOPENINGS IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED AND POINTS TO SAN FRANCISCO AND LOS ANGELES AND PHILADELPHIA WHERE IT'S BEEN HARDER TO GET THE KIDS BACK IN SCHOOL.

AND MOST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS WILL NOT START BACK UNTIL MARCH FIRST.

I IMAGINE THERE ARE DEVILS IN THE DETAILS AS WELL.

>> AND THAT IS ASSUMING NO OTHER MAJOR FUTURE SNOW DUMPS HERE WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BET ON.

AMANDA VINICKY, HEATHER CHERONE THE TWO BEST, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR THIS WEDNESDAY NIGHT.

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PROTESTS OVER GENERAL IRON'S BID TO OPEN A NEW FACILITY ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE.

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