>> DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF BETSY AND THOMAS PETTER SON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF 9 PBS.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THIS SPECIAL WEEK YEAR EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.

GREAT .. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO INVITE YOU BEFORE THE HOUR IS OVER FOR OUR APRIL 11th DONNYBASH.

WE'LL GIVE YOU..

BUT FIRST WE'LL MEET THE PANELISTS.

SH.. 5/50 KTRS.

WE WELCOME BACK BILL MCCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

FROM SUBSTACK AND THE FOUN.. RIVERFRONT TIMES AND ONE OF OUR DONNYBROOK FOUNDERS, RAY HARTMANN.

AND .. WHERE HE WRITES THAT GREAT SPORTS COLUMN AND EDITS THE NEWS, ALVIN REID.

AND OUR OFFICIAL STA STAT -- RAY HARTMANN.

HOW MANY TIMES HAS DONNYBROOK APPEARED ON FEBRUARY 29th.

>> THIS IS AMAZING, ONLY OUR SECOND LEAP YEAR.

MULTIPLY THAT TIMES 7.

LEAP YEAR THURSDAYS ONLY HAPPEN EVERY 28 YEARS.

IT LOOKS LIKE '96 WAS THE ONLY OTHER LEAP YEAR DONNYBROOK -- AND THERE WASN'T ANY LOCAL NEWS I COULD FIND.

PRINCESS DY.

I WAS SINGLE BACK THING, BUT PRINCESS DI ANNOUNCED HER DIVORCE.

>> SHE P.. TRUST HERSELF WITH YOU.

>> SO WE HAVE A LEAP YEAR.

WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE TO TALK ABOUT.

>> STATISTICIAN AND .. RAY HARTMANN.

WE MOVE .. NOT TO TALK ABOUT LEAP YEAR BUT METROLINK.

YEST.. EAST WESTGATE WAY COUNCIL, THE REGIONAL PLANNING ORGANIZATION, THERE WAS A VOTE TO EXPAND METROLINK FROM JUST NORTH COUNTY THROUGH FAIRGROUNDS PARK DOWN TO CHOUTEAU OR CHIPPEWA.

SO IT WILL BE A NORTH-SOUTH EXTENSION CUTTING THROUGH THE HEART OF ST. LOUIS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I THINK THAT WAS TONY LARUSA'S FIRST SPRING TRAINING WITH THE CARDINALS IN 1996.

>> MAYBE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO EAST-WEST.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE MOST RIDERS WOULD BE, AND THAT WOULD CREATE, I THINK, A LITTLE SYNERGY FOR OTHER ROUTES.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT, AND I GUESS THIS FEDERAL MONEY DEPENDS ON US BUILDING IT, THEN LET'S DO THE NORTH-SOUTH SO I CAN GET WITH IT.

WHAT I CANNOT GET WITH IS THOSE FROM OUTLYING COUNTIES WHO I REALLY DON'T THINK HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT REALLY IS GOING ON AS FAR AS WHO THIS WILL SERVICE AND WHY IT WILL SERVICE THEM, TAKING POT SHOTS AT IT.

THEY'VE ALREADY SAID THEY DON'T WANT ANY PART OF METROLINK, SO JUST KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF.

AND .. COUNTY NOT DOING HIS HOMEWORK BEFORE THE MEETING AND DIDN'T VOTE.

.. >> HE DIDN'T GET THE BINDER IN ADVANCE.

THAT'S IMPORTA..

BODIES TO GET INFORMATION IN ADVANCE.

BU..

SHOTS, AS YOU DESCRIBE THEM, THEY'RE PART OF THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.

IT'S THEIR JOB T.. AND FRANKLY, THOSE COUNTIES WHICH DON'T HAVE METROLINK ARE GROWING IN TERMS OF POPULATION AND RECENT DENTS AN RESIDENTS AND JOBS AT A FAR GREATER PACE.

>> ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT THE SHERIFF OF FRANKLIN COUNTY RECUSED HIMSELF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BASIC FACTS OF THIS, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME IT'S MUCH MORE COST EFFICIENT TO HAVE BETTER BUS SERVICE AND SMALLER BUSES AND RUN THEM MORE OFTEN NORTH, SOUTH, RATHER THAN THE GREAT EXPENSE OF BUILDING ANOTHER LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM THERE.

>> I MEAN, IT'S PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE.

>&g.. ABOUT GREENHOUSE GASES AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT YOU COULD FIT ON A BUS AS OPPOSED TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN GET ON A METROLINK, AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE FUNDS AND USING THE FUNDS, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE THREAT, YOU KNOW, THAT EVERYBODY WAS UNDER WHEN IT COMES TO THE LOOP TROLLEY.

REMEMBER, WE HAD TO KEEP THAT GOING, BUT IF NOT, THEN THE FEDERAL DOLLARS WOULD SOMEHOW BE DIMINISHED.

>&g.. HYDROGEN BUSES LIKE OHIO OR ELECTRIC BUSES.

>> I T.. METROLINK PATH.

>> YOU KNOW, WE PAY A LOT OF TAXES TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE ST. LOUIS REGION.

WE ALWAYS HAVE THIS, WELL, IT WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF CLEVELAND HAD IT.

BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THE DYNAMIC OF THIS IS THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE FOR WHAT IT'S BEING USED.

I THINK IT'S THE SAM.. THAT RUNS THE BUS SERVICE.

I THINK THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF THE NEEDS OF BOTH BUSS AND TRAINS.

LOOKBUSES ANDTRAINS.

FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, POLITICS HAS MADE THIS A DIFFICULT SYSTEM, BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT IT HERE, SOME WANTED IT THERE.

BUT TH.. PROGRESS, OKAY?

>> IT'S NOT PROGRESS.

LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING -- >> (INAUDIBLE).

>> W.. WE HAVE CLEAN BUSES, RAY.

>> THAT APPARENTLY IS SOMETHING -- WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT.

>> YES, WE DO.

THIS IS FUNDED B.. GOVERNMENT.

THIS I.. GOVERNMENT.

>>.. OF THAT MONEY, AND IF THERE'S A NEW PRESIDENT WHO'S REPUBLICAN IN NOVEMBER, THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE ZERO.

>> WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT THEN.

>> IF IT GOES THROUGH, CAN YOU TELL ME, SINCE IT STARTED OPERATING IN EAST ST. LOUIS, DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS, CLAYTON, ARE THOSE PLACES DOING ANY BETTER TODAY THAN THEY WERE BEFORE?

NO.

IT'S NOT -- IT DOESN'T PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> THAT CAN'T BE THE ONLY -- >> THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING.

.. AND HOTELS, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE KEY.

IT'S NOT, BILL IS RIGHT.

YOU COULD USE LITTLE AIRPORT VANS.

&g.. YOU CANNOT FIND THE FUNDING.

>> COVERED WAGONS.

>> AND AS FAR AS METROLINK -- AS SOMEBODY WHO GOES TO A LOT OF SPORTING EVENTS, I WILL TELL YOU OVER TIME METROLINK HAS A DRAMATICALLY GOOD EFFECT ON PEOPLE GETTING TO AND FROM SPORTING EVENTS.

IT WOULD BE NICE IF -- >> DO ANY OF US TAKE IT ON A REGULAR BASIS?

THERE ARE SO.. METROLINK, THAT THE HEAD OF METROLINK IS CUTTING BACK THE CARS FROM TWO AND THREE TWO ONE.

HE CUT BACK THE REDBIRD EXPRESS, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO -- >> THAT WAS A BUS TOO.

>> HE CUT THAT BACK.

>> PEOPLE DON'T WANT THIS, APPARENTLY.

>> FEWER USERS OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TODAY IN THE GREATER ST. LOUIS AREA THAN THERE WERE BEFORE METROLINK.

>> LIGHT RAIL IS A KEY COMPONENT OF A WHOLE LOT OF CITIES.

>> WE'RE NOT PARIS.

WE'RE NOT NEW YORK AND WASHINGTON.

>>..

THERE'S OTHER CITIES WHERE LIGHT RAIL WORKS.

>> YOU SAID THIS ABO.. >> WE HAVE THIS THING WHERE WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY RUN IT DOWN EVERY TIME THERE IS A CRIME ON IT, EVERYTHING BLOWS UP.

I THINK IT'S WORTH GETTING BEHIND.

&g.. TURNSTILE ISSUES YET?

>> THEY NEED TO PAY JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.

YOU NEED.. ON.

>> WELL, THIS FEDERA.. SHOULD SPEND IT, AND THEN IT TURNS OUT THAT UNLESS YOU BUILD IT UP AGAIN AND KEEP RUNNING IT, THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO PUNISH YOU.

>> IF IT'S SO SUC SUCCESSFUL, WHY ARE THEY CUTTING THE CARS BACK?

>> WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO ONE CAR?

THER..

GROCERY STORE.

ARE WE GOING TO STOP S..

BREAD?

.. FOR PEOPLE IN THE WAY THEY COMMUTE.

&g.. IS TAKE A QUICK BREAK AND ASK YOU TO JOIN US APRIL 11th FOR DONNYBASH IF YOU ENJOYED THIS.

WOW.

>> HI, EVERYONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

I'M A MEMBER OF YOUR EXPERIENCE MANAGER HERE AT, YOU GUESSED IT, 9 PBS.

AND .. ARE HERE WITH US DURING ANOTHER GREAT SEGMENT OF DONNYBROOK, EVERYONE'S FAVORITE PUBLIC AFFAIRS PROGRAM.

SO WE AR.. A MEMBER RIGHT NOW.

I'M THRILLED I CAN INVITE YOU TO TWO THINGS.

ONE, BECOME A MEMBER, AND TWO, TO DONNYBASH.

THAT'S R..

BECOME A MEMBER, AND YOU.. COME TO DONNYBASH APRIL 11th OF THIS YEAR.

THAT'S IN APPROXIMATELY 6 WEEKS, AND THAT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL WAY FOR US TO THANK YOU FOR BECOMING A MEMBER.

SO AT THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF THE AMA.. NEW 9 PBS 70th BIRTHDAY MUG.

LOOK AT THAT BEAUTY.

IT IS PHENOMENAL.

WE ALSO HAVE THE TICKET, SO YOU CAN SELECT THAT MUG OR GET A TICKET TO SEE DONNYBROOK LIVE IN ACTION, DONNYBASH, APRIL 11th THIS YEAR AT 5:30 P.M. AT MY FAVORITE PLACE, THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL.

THEN AT THE 12-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU -- IT'S NO OPTION.

YOU GET BOTH.

YOU GET 2 TICKETS AND THAT AMAZING 70th BIRTHDAY MUG.

I JUST WANT TO SAY QUICKLY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE MEMBERS RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO WORK LIKE THIS AND WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO PROGRAMS LIKE THIS WITHOUT YOU.

70 YEARS IS A HUGE DEAL, SO CELEBRATE WITH US BY GETTING THAT MUG MUG, AND MEET US IN PERSON.

YOU CAN MEET THE STAFF, THE DONNYBROOKERS.

IT'S A L.. APRIL 11th AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MI..

INVITE YOUR FRIENDS.

INVITE YOUR FAMILY.

IT'S A LOVELY TIME.

IT'S SO MUCH FUN, LIKE I SAID.

THE STAFF IS THERE.

I'LL BE THERE, SO I AM EXCITED TO MEET AND GREET SOME OF YOU.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS IS THE PRE-AND POST-RECEPTION.

NOT ONLY DO YOU GE.. LIVE PRODUCTION IN ACTION, BUT YOU GET TO ALSO MIX AND MINGLE WITH THE DONNYBROOKERS.

YOU CAN GET IN DRINKS, EAT IN APPETIZERS AND MEET BILL AND WENDY AND EVERYONE ELSE.

JOIN US AND BECOME A MEMBER (800)568-9099 OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE, 9 PBS.ORG.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO HEAD OVER TO MY FRIEND GALE AND A GROUP OF PEOPLE YOU MIGHT KNOW.

>> WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THURSDAY, APRIL 11th?

I KNOW WHAT THE FIVE PEOPLE WITH ME ARE GOING TO BE DOING.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT DONNYBASH 2024 AT THE SHELDON.

DONNYBASH HAS BECOME A ST. LOUIS TRADITION, JUST LIKE TOASTED RAVIOLI AND GOOEY BUTTER CAKE AND DRIVING ON EXPIRED TEMPORARY TAGS.

IT'S A ST. LOUIS TRADITION.

AND THE BEAUTY OF IT IS THAT WE GET 5 DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS ON THINGS, BUT ALL OF THEM AGREE ON ONE THING, AND THAT IS THAT 9 PBS IS AN ESSENTIAL ST. LOUIS INSTITUTION.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

>> AND 88% OF ..

LOCALLY, YOU KNOW, SO WE DON'T HAVE COMMERCIALS, SO WE'RE NOT MAKING MONEY BY BREAKING FOR A 3 MINUTE OR 4 MINUTE COMMERCIAL BREAK.

WE RELY ON CONTRIBUTIONS.. GREAT VIEWERS, AND THIS IS OUR ONE AND ONLY BROADCAST FUNDRAISER OF THE YEAR, AND IT'S REALLY UNIQUE, BECAUSE WE DO THIS IN FRONT OF A LIVE AUDIENCE.

THER.. TELEVISION ANYWHERE THAT I KNOW OF IN THE COUNTRY, AND IT'S A LOT OF FUN.

>> AND THERE'S NOT MANY PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY AS COOL AS THIS SHOW.

>> STHE SHELDON.

GREAT CONCERT HALL.

PROBABLY BETTER EXAMPLES OF PERFORMANCES ON THAT STAGE.

THE ACOUSTICS ARE AMAZING, THE WHOLE SETUP AND GREAT.

WE GET TO MEET PEOPLE BEFORE AND AFTER THE SHOW.

IT NEVER GETS OLD.

>> AND IT'S JUST SO UNIQUELY ST. LOUIS, BECAUSE YOU'RE MEETING PEOPLE.

WE A.. WE'RE ON A LAZY SUSAN WHERE WE'RE TURNING AROUND IN CIRCLES MEETING PEOPLE, AND THEN THEY HAVE CONVERSATIONS.

I REALLY DO .. KNOW, PEOPLE FIND THINGS THAT THEY HAVE IN COMMON MORE THAN THEY DO DISCUSS THEIR DIFFERENCES AT DONNYBASH.

>> AND THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE FROM GREENVILLE IN ILLINOIS.

>> THAT'S SO TRUE.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHY.

>> WE'RE VERY BIG THERE.

>> THERE'S A PRISON THERE.

(LAUGHTER).

>> NO.

SHOWS, I KNOW PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT NIGHT AND THEY SEE THEMSELVES, AND THEY STILL GET A BIG KICK OUT OF THAT.

THEY'R.. COMMERCIAL.

AND I SA.. >> YES, YOU ARE.

>> IT'S A FU.. BEGINNING TO END.

CHANNEL 9 WILL BE 70 IN SEPTEMBER.

I TH.. LONG TIME, AND THEN I THINK TO MYSELF, ALVIN, YOU'RE GOING TO BE 64 IN SEPTEMBER.

I CAN'T THINK ABOUT IT FOR A LONG TIME.

IT'S.. COMMITTEE COMING UP ON 7 DECADES NOW.

HOPE WE'RE STILL DOING THE SHOW, EVEN THOUGH I'LL BE 134 YEARS OLD.

BUT IT'S FUN.

IT'S A GREAT NIGHT, AND WE'RE ALL HAPPY TO BE PART OF IT.

>> DONNYBROOK HAS BEEN AROUND -- THIS IS YEAR 38 ACTUALLY FOR DONNYBROOK, STARTED IN '87.

SO THAT MEANS THAT NOW DONNYBROOK HAS BEEN AROUND FOR OVER HALF OF CHANNEL 9'S EXISTENCE.

>> I'VE BEEN HERE NOT THAT LONG.

>> IT'S NOT AN UNDERSTATEMENT TO SAY THAT THIS IS A ST. LOUIS INSTITUTION, AND NOW DONNYBASH ITSELF, WHERE THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY COMES TOGETHER FOR AN HOUR, WELL, FOR AN HOUR SHOW, BUT CERTAINLY LONGER THAN THAT.

IT REALLY IS NOW ENGRAINED AS A ST. LOUIS TRADITION.

>> I GUESS WE GOT STARTED BACK IN 1987.

I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T REALIZE ..

THIS IS IT.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE A LIVE TELEVISION PROGRAM, DONNYBASH IS IT.

>> WE ARE PLANNING ON 1988.

>> WE'LL CONTINUE THIS NEXT PLEDGE BREAK.

>> ALL RIGHT.

LIKE I S.. WE'RE SIX WEEKS OUT FROM DONNYBASH, AND THIS IS ONE OF MY VERY FAVORITE EVENTS.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

I'M NOT LYING.

I WOULD NEVER LIE TO YOU.

DONNYBASH IS PHENOMENAL.

THE COUNTDOWN HAS BEGUN.

GET YOUR TICKETS RIGHT NOW AND BECOME A MEMBER.

SO AT THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU'VE GOT THE OPTION OF THAT TICKET TO SEE DONNYBROOK LIVE AT DONNYBASH, THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL, OR YOU GET THE BEAUTIFUL 9 PBS 70th BIRTHDAY MUG, A LIMITED EDITION.

SO NEW, I JUST LAID EYES ON IT EARLIER TODAY AT THE BIG REVEAL, AMAZING.

TH.. LEVEL, WE'VE GOT THE 2 TICKETS AND THAT BEAUTIFUL MUG, 2 TICKETS TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE IN ACTION.

.. AND YOU HEAR THE DONNYBROOKERS TALKING AND HEAR THE LIVELY BANTER AND WITTINESS, YOU GET TO SEE THAT LIVE AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL APRIL 11th.

SO GIVE US A CALL AT (800)568-9099 AND CALL OR TEXT TO GIVE TO THAT NUMBER OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE, 9 PBS.ORG.

WE MAKE IT SUPER EASY FOR YOU.

YOU DO NOT WANT TO MISS DONNYBASH LIVE IN ACTION.

YOU ALSO DON'T WANT TO MISS THE REST OF DONNYBROOK.

SO LET'S HEAD BACK OVER TO THAT.

>> WE'LL SEE YOU IN APRIL.

NO JOKE.

RAY HARTMA.. YOU ABOUT SEVERAL MEASURES IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS ON SURFACE LEVEL PARKING.

CARS BROKEN INTO AND GETTING IN CARS AND DOING DOUGHNUTS AND CRAZY STUFF AT NIGHT.

SO THE CITY IS SAYING, IF YOU OWN ONE OF THESE SURFACE LEVEL PARKING LOTS, AT YOUR EXPENSE, YOU BETTER PUT UP A FENCE.

IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CENTURY, AT LEAST YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN AUTOMATED GATE THAT GOES UP AND DOWN.

I THINK THE ST. OF ST. LOU.. LOUIS, SHOULD FUND SOME OF THOSE POLICE OFFICERS AND DRIVE AROUND DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS AND QUIT SHIFTING THE BURDEN OF THE PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNER WHO IS NOT AT FAULT FOR THIS CRIME.

>> EVERY ISSUE WE HAVE ABOUT CRIME, YOU ALWAYS COME BACK, WE'VE GOT TO HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS.

WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO, BUT GOOD LUCK WITH TRYING TO FIND THAT.

DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR THIS QUI.. GOOD FOR THE CITY THAT THEY'RE DOING THIS.

UNMANAGED AND UNFENCED SURFACE LEVEL PARKING LOTS ARE ACTUALLY A SOURCE OF CRIME.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT HAVING THEM FENCED AND HAVING THEM -- I THINK THEY SHOULD GO FURTHER AND HAVE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS ON THEM.

THAT'S A..

IF YOU HAVE A SURFACE PARKING LOT DOWNTOWN, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE KIND OF RULES, THEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT -- THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE DOING JUST FINE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE CRIME PROBLEM.

SO NO, I THINK IT'S A VERY REASONABLE THING TO EXPECT -- >> CRIMINALS, CRIMINALS ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE CR..

PROBLEM.

I .. ANY HARDER ON BUSINESSES TRYING TO STAY IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

>> I THINK R..

THOUGH, THAT FENCES JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE CRIMINALS.

I WI.. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT WE DO, AND THE FENCES ARE A RATHER INEXPENSIVE HELP.

.. >> AND I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.

DOWNTOWN, ..

FENCE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIGHTING.

I TH..

RESPONSIBLE COMPANIES, GOOD COMPANIES, LIKE 9 PBS, HAS A FENCE AROUND IT.

I THINK THAT'S NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK.

.. AND I THINK PATRONS WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE COME DOWNTOWN.

>> MAYBE THAT'S IN YOUR PAY INCREASE THIS YEAR SO WE CAN BUILD THAT PARKING LOT.

LET ME SAY THIS.

THERE'S A TREND IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS RIGHT NOW WHERE, IF THERE'S CRIME, LET'S SAY, PEOPLE WITH THOSE SKATE BOARDS.

WHAT DO THEY CALL THOSE AGAIN?

MOTORIZED SCOOTERS.

THEY DON'T PUNISH THE GUYS WHO ARE CAUSING THE CRIME.

THEY TAKE AWAY THE SCOOTERS.

OR IF KIA CARS ARE STOLEN, THEY DON'T PUNISH THE GUYS STEALING THE CARS, THEY PUNISH KIA.

OH, LIKE SHANOOKS, YOU'R LIKE YOU'RE HAVIN G PROBABLY WITH PEOPLE STEALING?

PUNISH THE STORE.

>> I WOULDN'T SAY DON'T PUNISH THE CRIMINALS.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

IT'S A FAL.. TO HOLD A COMPANY RESPONSIBLE, LIKE KIA, FOR ITS CLEAR RECORD OF BEING A REASON THAT CARS GET STOLEN, I MEAN, IT'S TRUE, AND CONTRIBUTING, FINE.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

TH.. TO LET THE CRIMINALS GO.

IT JUST MEANS YOU CAN DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.

>> IF YOU PUT A FENCE AND A CENTURY AROUND SHOOT THEM UP SHELL RIGHT THERE, CRIME WOULD BE REDUCED.

I MEAN, .. >> THERE'S ANOTHER ONE TOO.

>> THAT ONE HAS A LITTLE MORE..

IT.

>> I A.. >> IF IT HAD A FENCE.

>> AND IF YOU HAD MORE THAN TWO POLICE OFFICERS PER DISTRICT PER 8 HOUR SHIFT.

>> THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT, CHARLIE.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON..

COPS.

WE.. >> MONEY?

>.. >> OKAY.

WE SHOULD SPEN.. MORE POLICE OFFICERS, BUT A FENCE IS A RELATIVELY SIMPLE THING TO DO TO HELP.

>> I THINK MOST BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY THAT OPERATE DOWNTOWN AT NIGHT -- >> IT'S NOT GOING TO RUN ANY BUSINESSES OUT OF DOWNTOWN TO PUT A FENCE UP, AND IF THEY'RE THAT THIN, THEY SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

>> I WANT TO.. MALEK, THE STATE TREASURER, THE WHOLE THING IS UNUSUAL.

IN THE STATE, THERE ARE UNREGULATED SLOT INNOCENC MACHINES AT GAS STATIONS, BARS, ALL AROUND TOWN.

PEOPLE SIT THERE FOR 2, 3 HOURS AT A TIME JUST THROWING MONEY IN.

WELL, VISI..

THE MACHINES PUT UP STICKERS ON THEM TELLING MISSOUR MISSOURIANS ON HOW TO CASH IN ON UNCLAIMED MONEY.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE BANK ACCOUNTS THAT GO DORMANT.

SO WITH THIS 800 NUMBER AND THE STATE SEAL, THIS LITTLE STICKER WAS PROVIDING A GREAT PUBLIC SERVICE TO THOSE WHO OBVIOUSLY NEED THE MONEY, DON'T YOU THINK?

>> NO, OF COURSE NOT.

YOU CAN GO TO THE GAS STAT.. AND PUT IT ON THE FRONT DOOR OR SOMETHING AND PEOPLE COULD SEE IT.

ILLEGAL GAMBLING MACHINES SEEM LEGAL, AND IT'S CRAZY THAT STEVE TILLY, THE FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, THE UBER LOBBYIST, MIKE PARSON'S FRIENDS, GOT CONTROL OF THE MARIJUANA INDUSTRY AND NOW THE GAMBLING INDUSTRY.

THES.. WHO NOW RUN THIS AND MALEK BEING A PARTIAL APPOINTEE, THIS IS JUST KIND OF HELPING STEVE TILLY OUT.

IT'S CRAZY.

>> ANDREW BAILEY WHO IS CURRENT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TOOK MONEY FROM TORCH, THAT'S THE COMPANY.

SO HE'S SAYING, WELL, AS ATTORNEY GENERAL, CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OF THE STATE, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING..

THE ILLEGAL GAMBLING MACHINES.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

>> THIS IS LIKE -- YOU PUT THE STATE STICKER ON AN ILLEGAL GAMBLING MACHINE, HAD NO PROBLEM IN IT, AND APPARENTLY IN A MEETING WHERE ALL OF THIS WAS HASHED OUT IN STEVE TILLY'S AIRPLANE HANGAR SOMEWHERE?

>> YOU GUYS ARE MAKING SO MUCH OUT OF NOTHING.

DO YOU GET UPSET FOR ILLEGAL GAMBLING IN OFFICES FOR NCAA POOLS?

.. >> THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GAMBLING MACHINES, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SLOT MACHINES, LET'S HAVE THEM AND HAVE THE STATE REGULATE THEM AND WE'LL GET TAX MONEY.

IT WILL HELP SCHOOLS.

THE IDEA THAT THIS -- >> THIS IS SUCH A SCAM.

>> HOW ABOUT MARCH MADNESS.

>> OH, CHARLIE, APPLES AND ORANGES.

TH..

IT IS SO DEPRESSING TO THINK THAT IT WAS ONE OF THOSE, IT SEEMS LIKE, AS YOU SAID, AT THE HANGAR WHEN THEY WERE HAVING THE MEETING ON THIS WHERE OBVIOUSLY NOBODY SAID, IS THIS POSSIBLY IMPROPER TO PUT A STATE SEAL ON AN ILLEGAL GAMBLING MACHINE?

AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN EMBARRASSED BY IT.

THEY'RE LEANING INTO IT.

>> I AGREE IT'S A REALLY BAD IDEA.

I TH.. TREASURER HIMSELF, MALEK, HE ACTUALLY -- I THOUGHT AT LEAST HE WAS REFRESHINGLY, AT LEAST IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT, NOT -- TODAY'S POLITICS, YOU NEVER ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG, NEVER BACK OFF AND NEVER LISTEN TO ANYBODY.

>> TRUE.

>> M.. GET HIM TO DO IT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE PEOPLE RUNNING AGAINST HIM FOR TREASURER, THIS IN MY MIND IS NOT A HANG IN THE FENCE WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVES ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.

>> LOOK AT -- >>.. >> YOU GUYS ARE SO UPSET ABOUT STICKERS ON MACHINES.

RIGHT NOW, WE GET LETTERS HERE AT 9 PBS FROM PEOPLE IN DOG TOWN WHOSE WATER IS COMING OUT AT A TRICKLE.

.. WATER.

&g.. >> SOMETHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

&g.. YOU'LL BE AS CONCERNED ONCE THOSE TICKETS EXPIRE.

YOU'LL BE ALL OVER IT.

THAT WILL BE YOUR THING.

>> WHO IS NEXT?

LET'S GO TO YOU, WENDY WIESE, ABOUT THE GIRL SCOUTS OF THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF MISSOURI.

THEY CLAMPED DOWN ON 8 GIRL SCOUTS WHO WERE SELL.. BRACELETS FOR THE .. GAZA, FOR PALESTINIAN ..

GIRLS WHO ARE THE VICTIMS OF SOME OF THE WAR FAR THERE.

THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE OPERATING OUTSIDE OF GIRL SCOUT RULES.

WH.. ONE?

>> I DON'T THINK YOU.. TAKE A SIDE WHEN CHILDREN ARE BEING KILLED, CHILDREN ARE BEING WOUNDED.

IT.. THING THAT'S HAPPENING IN GAZA AND IN ISRAEL.

AND I THINK, UNFORTUNATELY, .. IS SUCH A HIGHLY CHARGED POLITICAL SITUATION THAT WHEN YOU HAVE BRACELETS WITH THE PALESTINIAN FLAG AND PALESTINE, YOU HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PART OF YOUR MEMBERSHIP IN THE GIRL SCOUTS ARE ALSO -- THEY'RE JEWISH, AND THAT DOES BECOME -- IN MY OPINION, THAT BECOMES POLITICAL.

WH.. RASHIDA TLAIB SPORTING THE BRACELETS, IT BECOMES EVEN MORE POLITICAL.

THE DUST HADN'T SETTLED ON OCTOBER 7th AND CORI BUSH WAS ASKING THE UNITED STATES TO DISINVEST IN ISRAEL.

IT IS A POLITICAL ISSUE.

YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ORGANIZATION -- I DON'T BUY GIRL SCOUT COOKIES BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO EXPENSIVE AND I DON'T NEED THE EXTRA CALORIES, BUT YOU CAN'T SAY THAT WE'VE DECIDED WE'RE NOT GOING TO SELL THE COOKIES LIKE THE REST OF THE GIRL SCOUTS OF AMERICA; WE'RE GOING TO SELL BRACELETS INSTEAD, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE INVITING ALL SORTS OF -- >> WHEN SHE WROTE THE COLUMN ABOUT IT, SHE MENTIONED THAT GIRL COUNTIES HAD RAISED MONEY FOR THE CHILDREN OF UKRAINE, AND I THINK THAT ANY GIRL SCOUT ORGANIZATION THAT WANTS TO RAISE MONEY TO HELP PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE NATIVE AMERICANS ON A RESERVATION, THE KIDS IN GAZA, KIDS IN UKRAINE, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR KIDS TO DO.

AND THE FACT THAT, HEY, THERE'S A POLITICAL ANGLE TO THIS OR TO TIE IT TO CORI BUSH, I JUST DON'T SEE IT.

>> WELL, BUT TO ME, THE RUSSIAN-UKRAINIAN SITUATION, THAT'S A ONE-SIDED FIG.. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS IN GAZA, FFOR STARTERS, IN MY OPINION.

THEY ALSO SUSPENDED -- YOU WERE ABLE TO RAISE MONEY THROUGH THE GIRL SCOUTS FROM OCTOBER TO JANUARY.

WHEN IT .. TIME, THOUGH, TO MAKE THE UNILATERAL DECISION AS A TROUPE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SELL THE COOKIES, YOU'RE GOING TO SELL THE BRACELETS BECAUSE YOU'RE GRIEVING AND, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT YOU'RE GRIEVING.

I THINK THIS IS .. SITUATION FOR THESE GIRLS.

>> IT'S A NO-WIN, BUT I SEE LITTLE GIRLS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

>> A..

POSITION.

>> I MEAN,.. TO DEFEND THE LITTLE GIRLS DOING THE RIGHT THING.

BUT SERIOUSLY, I THINK THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE GIRL SCOUTS SEEM TO HAVE A POLICY THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING, AND THAT IS NO -- AND I THINK IT'S A BAD POLICY.

I ..

RIGHT.

POLICY THAT SAYS WE ONLY RAISE AS GIRL SCOUTS FOR THE GIRL COUNTIES, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO -- I'M WITH YOU THAT THEY CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE.

>> BUT THEY DO.

>> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'VE GOT A POLICY, AND TH.. THAT WE WANT TO INVITE YOU TO DONNYBASH, APRIL 11th DETAILS HERE.

>> HEY, EVERYONE.

WELCOME BACK AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR AN INCREDIBLE EPISODE OF DONNYBROOK.

I GET EXCITED WHEN I HEAR THEIR CONVERSATIONS OF THE W. THAT'S WHY I WANT TO INVITE YOU TO BECOME A MEMBER.

MAYBE YOU'RE A MEMBER ALREADY.

THANKS SO MUCH.

IF YOU'RE ON THE FENCE, THINKING MAYBE I WANT TO GO TO DONNYBASH, YOU'VE GOT 6 WEEKS.

THE CLOCK IS TICKING.

YOU WANT TO JOIN US AT THE EXCITING EVENT, DONNYBASH LIVE AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL, APRIL 11th, 5:30.

IT'S AN INCREDIBLE EVENT.

I PROMISE YOU.

AT THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU HAVE AN OPTION OF GETTING ONE TICKET TO DONNYBASH LIVE, OR YOU GET THE 70th BIRTHDAY MUG, LIMITED EDITION, HOT OFF THE PRESSES, 70th BIRTHDAY MUG FOR 9 PBS.

IT IS $12 A MONTH LEVEL, YOU GET BOTH, YOU GET TWO TICKETS AND THAT 9 PBS 70th BIRTHDAY MUG, LIMITED EDITION.

THAT ACTUALLY WE W..

SHIPPING FOR A MONTH OR SO.

SO IF YOU PLACE THAT ORDER RIGHT NOW AND YOU'RE LIKE I WANT IT TO TOMORROW, WE PROMISE WE WILL GET IT TO YOU.

IT IS AN AWESOME MUG.

THESE ARE THE WAYS WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BECOMING A MEMBER, JOINING US NOT ONLY AT DONNYBASH, BUT JOINING US IN BECOMING A MEMBER RIGHT NOW.

0.70 YEA.. BECAUSE OF MEMBERS LIKE YOU.

GIVE US A CALL OR TEXT GIFT OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE 9 PBS.ORG.

BUT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER TO MY FRIEND GAI DETAIL GALE AND THE DONNYBROOKERS.

>> THANK YOU.

WE ARE.. WITH THE FAB 5 WHO ARE ALL GOING TO BE ASSEMBLED AT THE SHELDON ON APRIL 11th, THURSDAY NIGHT, 6 WEEKS FROM TONIGHT.

YOU'VE GOT TO GET YOUR TICKETS FOR DONNYBASH.

IT'S REALLY THREE EVENTS IN ONE.

YOU'VE GOT THE COCKTAIL RECEPTION BEFOREHAND, WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE OUR RED CARPET EVENT.

ALL THE DONNYBROOKERS WILL COME OUT AND BE RECEIVED BY THEIR ADMIRERS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A FULL HOUR SHOW OF DONNYBROOK WITH AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION AT THE END OF THE SHOW.

YOU'LL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LITTLE Q AND A.

AND THEN AFTERWARDS, THE PARTY CONTINUES WITH THE AFTER PARTY, ALL SELF-CONTAINED RIGHT THERE IN THE COMFORT OF THE SHELDON COMPLEX.

IT'S GOING TO BE A.. NIGHT, BUT I HAVE TO ASK ALL OF YOU, WHAT IS GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET READY TO TAKE THE STAGE IN FRONT OF 700 OF YOUR DEAREST ADMIRERS?

WHAT GOES THROUGH YOUR MIND WHEN YOU GET READY TO DO A LIVE DONNYBROOK FOR TWICE THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU ORDINARILY DO IT?

>.. THAT WE CAN SOMEHOW IN THE NEXT HOUR COAX RAY OUT OF HIS SHELL.

>> BECAUSE HE'S VERY SHY.

>> HE NEEDS TO SPEAK UP A LITTLE %-#BIT.

>> AND ALVIN TOO.

ALVIN IS VERY SHY.

>> WHAT'S UP WITH THOSE GUYS?

WE DON'T GET THE LOVE.

>> I'M ALSO WONDERING DO WE GET PAID FOR TWO SHOWS SINCE IT'S THE FULL HOUR OR JUST ONE SHOW?

>> I HAVE THE MORE LUCID -- IT'S LIKE, DON'T FALL DOWN.

>> THAT'S MY THING.

DON'T FALL DOWN.

>> ONE THING I WILL SAY, I HAVE BEEN -- WE'VE BEEN INTERACTING WITH OUR AUDIENCE FOR ALL THIS TIME.

I'VE NEVER.. >> I HAVEN'T EITHER.

>> WE WILL BE RECEIVED.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN A SALON.

>> IT'S LITERALLY CALLED A RECEPTION, RIGHT?

>> YOU ALL SAID THEY WILL BE ASSEMBLED AT THE SHELDON.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO ASSEMBLY REQUIRED.

>&g.. >> THERE IS A VERY LARGE STORE JUST DOWN THE STREET THAT HANDLES THAT KIND OF BUSINESS.

>> AND THEY HAVE SWEDISH MEATBALLS.

>.. THAT IS TRUE.

IT IS AN ASSEMBLY.

>> IT'S A PARTY.

>> IT ALMOST IS LIKE A SCHOOL ASSEMBLY ACTUALLY WHEN YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG AUDITORIUM.

YOU'..

STAGE, AND EVERYBODY JUST PAYS ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON UP THERE.

>> AND AS ALVIN SAID, IT'S .. 70th ANNIVERSARY HERE AT 9 PBS.

IT'S HOW WE PAY THE ELECTRIC BILL WHEN PEOPLE GO TO OUR DONNYBASH ON APRIL 11th AND HOPEFULLY ENJOY A GREAT SHOW.

>> AND YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE HAVE A LARGE ELECTRICITY BILL.

>> AND IT'S FUN TO SEE THE REACTIONS.

WE HAVE -- ALVIN ALWAYS RISES TO THE OCCASION.

THE LIVE AUDIENCE WAS -- ALVIN WAS IN DRAMA IN HIGH SCHOOL.

HE'S A LIVE AUDIENCE KIND OF GUY.

>> THE LIVE AUDIENCE IS VERY INTERACTIVE WITH US, AND THAT'S A BIG PART OF THIS.

>> THEY COME TO PLAY.

>> IT'S PARTLY US, BUT IT'S JUST THE AUDIENCE.

IT'S JUST LIKE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONTEXT WHEN AN AUDIENCE KIND OF GIVES WHOEVER MIGHT BE ON STAGE OR WHATEVER A LITTLE ENERGY.

>> WHEN YOU LO..

THEM AND THESE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT YOU, AND THIS GOES BACK TO ANYBODY WHO HAS -- ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU REALIZE, OKAY, THIS AIN'T THE ZOO.

I HAVE TO, LIKE, ENTERTAIN THESE PEOPLE.

>> THAT'S RI.. >> W.. >> LIKE THEY SAID, IT IS A GREAT LEGACY, LEGACY OF 70 YEARS, YOU GUYS.

70 Y.. OUR BIRTHDAY HERE AT 9 PBS.

SO THAT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF MEMBERS AND VIEWERS LIKE YOURSELF.

SO HELP US TO GET MAYBE .. YEARS.

JOIN US FOR 70 MORE YE.. FUTURE BY BECOMING A MEMBER RIGHT NOW, AND WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BY OFFERING YOU THE OPTION OF ONE MUG AT THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL.

YOU GET A MUG OR ONE TICKET TO DONNYBASH LIVE AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL APRIL 11th.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS.

IT THE CLOCK IT TICKING, YOU GUYS.

SO THAT IS AT THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL.

THEN AT THE 12-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU HAVE TWO TICKETS AND THE MUG, TWO TICKETS IS THE HAPPY BIRTHDAY 9 PBS MUG.

THEYOU CAN DRINK OUT OF THAT EVERY DAY WITH YOUR COFFEE AND KNOW YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE 9 PBS FAMILY AND YOU HELPED US GET TO 70 AND HOPEFULLY 7 70 MORE.

SO JOIN US ON APRIL 11th AT DONNYBASH LIVE, AND THAT IS THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL.

IT'S GOING TO BE AN AMAZING EVENT.

GIVE.. GO TO THE WEBSITE AT NINE PBS.ORG.

RIGHT NOW, L.. ANOTHER SEGMENT OF BROO DONNYBROOK.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE WILL SEE YOU IN A.. ALVIN REID, THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME -- ANOTHER FISCHER BETWEEN THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS AND BOARD OF ALDERMEN.

LAST WEEK THEY HAD DUELING PRESS CONFERENCES ON FRIDAY WHEN IT CAME TO RED LIGHT AND SPEED CAMERAS.

SI.. 2015, WE HAVEN'T HAD RED LIGHT CAMERAS IN MOST OF THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

WELL, ST. LOUIS UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS WANTS TO BRING THEM BACK.

BUT THE PRESIDENT OF.. OF ALDERMEN SAYS SHE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE ANY NEW SURVEILLANCE BY POLICE AND ANY ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO BE SUBJECT TO ALDERMANIC APPROVAL AND PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE MAYOR, AT HER PRESS CONFERENCE SAID, HEY, WE HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE DYING IN THE STREETS.

SH.. SHE SAID CALL YOUR ALDERMAN.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A DISPUTE BETWEEN THESE TWO.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?

>> WELL, I THINK THIS IS KIND OF THE LIKES OF POLITICAL THEATER BETWEEN THE TWO.

THEY SAID I'M NOT GOING TO EXPECT A RUBBER STAMP FROM THE MAYOR.

AND THEN THERE'S A WAR OR WHATEVER.

I TH..

SAME PAGE, WINK, WINK.

THESE ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

I DON'T LIKE THEM.

WE SHOULD NOT GO BACK TO THEM.

I WOULD CHALLENGE IT IF I GOT A TICKET BY ONE.

I DON'T CARE IF MY F..

THERE.

THEY..

SO LET'S NOT GO THERE.

LET'S NOT DO THAT.

IT WOULD BE CHALLENGED IN COURT.

MOST OF THE STATE WOULD SAY THAT THEY'RE ILLEGAL.

WHY EVEN GO DOWN THIS PATH?

JUST HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS.

(LAUGHTER).

>> I'D LIKE .. OFFICERS, BUT I THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC SITUATION HAS GOTTEN SO OUT OF CONTROL THAT THIS IS, LIKE, FENCES ON THE DOWNTOWN LOTS.

WE DO, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS AND REALLY GO AFTER ANYBODY WHO -- I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST MAKING IT YELLOW OR AN ILLEGAL RIGHT ON RED, BUT WHO ZOOMS THROUGH.

ON YOUR SHOW..

IT WAS, OR THE WEEK BEFORE, I THINK SARAH BROUGHT UP THAT A LOT OF THESE CARS ARE STOLEN.

I'D LIKE A PACKAGE WHERE WE GO AFTER STOLEN CARS MORE, LIKE THE KIDS WHO ARE CAUGHT IN STOLEN CARS.

THERE'.. DO, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROVE THEY STOLE THE CAR.

I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO CHANGE THOSE LAWS TOO AND MAKE IT TOUGHER ON KIDS WHO ARE IN STOLEN CARS.

IF I'M 16 YEARS OLD AND RAY COMES OVER TO MY HOUSE AND NEAT NEITHER OF US HAVE A CAR AND RAY HAS A SHINY NEW CAR, I KNOW WHEN I GET IN THAT CAR THAT IT'S STOLEN.

>.. BUSINESS PLAN.

I DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THIS.

FIRST OF ALL, IF THEY WANT TO PUT CAMERAS AT EVERY INTERSECTION AS A TOOL FOR OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE CRIMES OR WHERE THEY CAN SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE DRIVING, THAT'S ONE THING.

RED .. ENFORCEMENT THING, ALVIN IS CORRECT, NOT ONLY ARE THEY UNCONSTITUTIONAL BUT THEY DON'T WORK.

TAX.

PEOPLE, PEOPLE OF LIMITED MEANS.

AND FOR PEOPLE THAT COULD AFFORD THEM, THEY WERE AN IRRITANT, AND ALSO THERE -- PEOPLE OF MORE MEANS HAVE A BETTER ABILITY TO GET OUT FROM UNDER THEM.

THEY DON'T WORK.

THEY DON'T STOP -- AND THEY CAUSE.

>> TWO MORE -- >> BUT THEY DO NOT W.. THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

OH, YOU THINK PEOPLE DRIVING 80 MILES PER HOUR, THESE -- WHOEVER -- WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM, FOOLS, RUNNING AROUND THE CITY, AND WE KNOW THEY'RE THERE, YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SLOW DOWN FOR A CAMERA?

NO, THEY'RE NOT.

>> WELL, THEN WE'LL TAKE THEIR CARS AWAY, RAY.

>> THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONSEQUENCES FOR RUNNING THOSE RED LIGHTS.

>> I GET IT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO USE THE CAMERAS TO TRACK PEOPLE DOWN WHO ARE DOING THIS, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT THE IDEA OF GIVING THEM THESE AUTOMATED CAMERAS WHICH ARE JUST ABOUT RAISING MONEY AND NOTHING ELSE -- >.. ATTORNEY GENERAL DOES A REPORT EVERY YEAR, BLACK PEOPLE GET STOPPED MORE THAN WHITE PEOPLE ALL THROUGH THE STATE.

IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, THE FIRST 100 PEOPLE GETTING A TICKET FROM THESE CAMERAS, PROBABLY 90 ARE GOING TO BE BLACK.

THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN WHO ARE GOING TO SAY, OH, THIS IS WRONG.

WELL, NO, IT'S A RED LIGHT CAMERA AND DOESN'T SEE COLOR AND ALL OF THAT.

THAT WIL..

ARGUMENT.

>.. KNOWS THAT ALREADY?

>> I'M SAYING THIS WHOLE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, YOU HAVE TO REVIEW THE POLICE AND ALL THAT.

>> AND AI.

>> RAY, I WANT TO ASK YOU ONE MORE TOPIC, BECAUSE TIME IS LIMITED.

MAYOR -- GOVERNOR JA..

IN ILLINOIS WANTS TO RAISE SPORTS BETTING TAX TO 35%.

>> IT FEELS A LITTLE HIGH TO ME, HONESTLY.

BUT .. CONCEPT.

THE THIN..

LISTEN TO PRITZKER TALK, IF YOU LISTEN TO ILLINOIS POLITICS, THEY ACTUALLY RELATE SERVICES TO REVENUE.

THEY ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT IT.

THEY HAVE A MUCH BETTER SUPPORT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAN WE DO IN MISSOURI.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF T.. DO BETTER, PAY THEIR TROOPERS BETTER, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO DO, BECAUSE OF REVENUES, AND IT'S LIKE REFRESHING AT LEAST TO HEAR A GOVERNOR TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBLE.

I'M NOT IN THE POSITION -- IT SOUNDS A LITTLE HIGH TO ME.

BUT AS FAR AS THE BASIC PREMISE, I WISH MISSOURI POLITICIANS COULD AT LEAST HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AWARENESS AND CONSCIOUSNESS TO THE FACT THAT THE MONEY YOU RAISE FROM REVENUES HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR YOUR CITIZENS.

>> CAN I QUIBBLE WITH THAT?

BECAUSE I DRIVE ON THOSE ILLINOIS ROADS IN THE METRO EAST, LIKE 55, 64, AND THEY ARE HORRENDOUS, AND THE GASOLINE TAX IN ILLINOIS IS MUCH HIGHER THAN MISSOURI.

I DISAGREE THA.. ILLINOIS PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYERS ARE BETTER.

>> MOST OF THEM.

>> I WONDER WHAT IT'S LIKE UP IN CHICAGO?

I WONDER IF TH..

BETTER IN CHICAGO.

>> WHEN YOU DRIVE, WE'RE U UP THERE ALL THE TIME, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME EVERYWHERE.

I THINK THAT TAX IS TOO HI..

BUT YOU CAN CALL THEM A VICE TAX IF YOU WANT, BUT IT SHOULD BE A REVENUE GENERATOR BIG TIME, BE IT LEGALIZED MARIJUANA, BE IT BE GAMBLING.

>.. PROFITS?

>..

THIS.

>> EDUCATION COMPLETELY OUT OF THE PICTURE.

>> YOU DON'T WANT TO.. WAY INTO PEOPLE NOT GAMBLING, AND I THINK MAYBE AT 35% -- NOT EVERYBODY -- >>.. THAT.

.. >> GAMBLING IS A FOOL'S ERRAND.

IT'S PREYING UPON PEOPLE WITHOUT MONEY, LIKE PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY WHO SHALL REMAIN NAMELESS.

>> THAT HORSE LEFT THE BARN WHEN PAUL REVERE WAS RIDING.

>> THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS IN GAMBLING.

>> EXCEPT .. >> YOU'RE GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO, RIGHT?

>> ALCOHOL CAN HAVE BENEFITS.

>> THE ONLY THING I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH, IT WON'T KEEP PEOPLE FROM GAMBLING, BUT IT MIGHT PUSH THEM TO THE OFF SHORE.

THE PROB.. HIGH IS AT SOME POINT THE FOLKS IN CAYMAN ISLANDS OR WHATEVER, THAT ARE OFF SHORE, CAN MOVE IN.

ABSOLUTELY, THEY -- YOU'RE NOT CREATING MORE GAMBLERS WITH THIS.

.. INDEPENDENINSTEAD SEND YOUR MONEY TO 9 PBS, AND WE'LL TELL YOU HOW YOU CAN JOIN US AROUND THE CORNER, BUT FIRST LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT LAST WEEK'S PROGRAM.

MA..

BELIEVE -- WE SHOULD PROTEST WHEN THE UNIVERSITY BUYS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WHICH TAKES THEM OFF THE TAX ROL.. THAT'S FROM ED POST FROM UNIVERSITY CITY.

DID CHIEF .. 175,000-DOLLAR CITY SALARY?

DID HE KNOW ABOUT THE EXTRA HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM CONCERNED CITIZENS?

IT NEVER CEASE.. YOU THINK IS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR BY PUBLIC PHYSICIA OFFICIALS.

DID ALL OF YOU SHARE A DOOBIE BEFORE THE SHOW AGAIN?

THAT'S FROM ANDREW FROM FLUORESCENT.

WE A..

THE NINE LINE.

>> HI.

I'M PRESIDENT OF THE -- IN TERMS OF RELAXING THE LIQUOR LAWS OR OR APPLYING FOR LIQUOR LICENSE, I'M ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO.

THAT I'VE BEEN.. THAN ONE CLOSING DOWN ONE BAR.

IT'S MUCH EASIER TO OPEN ONE AND THE OWNER TO GET THE SIGNATURES REQUIRED AND GO THROUGH THE HEARING THAN IT IS FOR THE RESIDENTS TO CLOSE A BAD ONE, SO ANY RELAXATION OF THOSE LAWS IS JUST COMPLETELY WRONG.

THANK YOU.

>> MY ..

I'M CALLING FROM SOUTH ST. LOUIS.

CONCERNING THE HOMEL..

LIVING AT SPRING AND CHIPPEWA, I JUST WONDER HOW LONG THAT WOULD LAST IN THE CITY OF LADUE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, J.R. AND THANK YOU, DAVE.

YOU CAN WR.. YOU CAN ALSO SEND YOUR E-MAILS AT DONNYBROOK AT NBC PBS DOT ORG.

CALL (314)592-9094 AND LISTEN TO US ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCAST SOURCE, APPLE, SPOTIFY, GOOGLE PLAY AND TUNE IN.

GREAT TO HAVE BILL BACK FOR THIS BROADCAST.

WE'L..

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO IN JUST A MOMENT ASK YOU ONCE AGAIN TO JOIN US ON APRIL THE 11th.

DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETSY AND THOMAS PETTER SON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.

>> HEY, EVERYONE.

WELCOME BACK, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR JOINING US FOR YET ANOTHER AMAZING EPISODE OF DONNYBROOK.

I KN.. AND YOU'RE PROBABLY LIKE, YEAH, I WISH I COULD JUST BE THERE AND BE AT THE TABLE WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, HEAR THEM, RUB ELBOWS WITH THEM, MAYBE DRINK A COUPLE COCKTAILS.

GUES.. YOU HAVE THE OPPORTU.. JUST THAT WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER OF NINE PBS.

NOT ONLY HAVE YOU HELPED US CELEBRATE WE'RE COMING UP ON 70 YEARS, 70 YEARS, YOU HAVE HELPED US DO THAT, BUT YOU GET TO COME AND JOIN US FOR DONNYBASH, AND THAT'S ON APRIL 11th AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL.

SO IT IS 75-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF GETTING A 70th BIRTHDAY MUG, NINE PBS 70th BIRTHDAY, OR YOU GET A TICKET TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE ON STAGE AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL.

AT THE 12-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE TWO TICKETS AND THAT 70th BIRTHDAY MUG.

THAT'S RIGHT, TWO TICKETS.

THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO SAY THANK YOU.

THINK OF..

US TO YOU.

THAT 70th BIRTHDAY MUG RIGHT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HELPING US FOR 70 YEARS AND MANY, MANY MORE.

SO GIVE US A CALL AT (800)568-9099 OR GO TO NINEPBS.ORG.

CALL OR TEXT GIVE TO THAT NUMBER OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER TO THE TABLE OF DONNYBROOKERS AND GALE.

>> FUN FACT.

THE WE.. ST. LOUIS' LOCAL CONTACT SPORTS ARE GOING TO BE IN ACTION.

YOU'LL HAVE THE CARDINALS, THE BLUES WILL STILL BE PLAYING, ST. LOUIS CITY SC WILL BE PLAYING, AND THE BATTLE HAWKS WILL BE PLAYING, AND THE FIFTH CONTACT SPORT, DONNYBROOK, WILL ALSO BE LIVE ON STAGE HERE IN ST. LOUIS ON APRIL 11th AT THE WONDERFUL SHELDON.

IT'S GOING.. NIGHT.

IT'S GOING TO BE -- IT'S 6 WEEKS, 6 WEEKS FROM TONIGHT, WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE AT THE SHELDON AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL ALSO BE AT THE SHELDON.

I HAVE TO ASK THE PANEL, FIRST OF ALL, IN LIGHT OF RECENT EVENTS, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TEMPERATURE IS GOING TO BE?

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, IT WILL PROBABLY BE COOLER THAN IT WAS TUESDAY.

>> IT WILL EITHER BE 20 DE.. OR 100 DEGREES IF IT'S ST. LOUIS IN APRIL.

>> EXACTLY.

>> IF WE'VE LEARNED..

THIS WEEK, IT'S THAT WE HAVE RANGE IN A LOT OF THINGS, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO MATTERS MEET O MEET MEET OR -- WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BIG STORIES ARE GOING TO BE IN SIX SHORT WEEKS?

>> THE CARDINALS WILL GET SWEPT BY THE DODGERS, AND EVERYBODY WILL BE READY TO FIRE THE MANAGER.

&g.. >> IS THERE A PRIMARY IN APRIL?

>> THE PRESIDENTIAL.

>> I MEAN, YEAH.

>> WHEN IS SUPER TUESDAY?

MARCH 5th, YEAH.

WE'LL HAVE PLENTY TO TALK ABOUT, POSTMORTEM.

WE U.. >> IT'S REALLY KIND OF HARD TO PREDICT.

UNFORTUNATELY,..

THINGS COME UP OVER AND OVER, CRIME AND THE VARIOUS THINGS.

WE WOULD LOVE A SHOW WHERE WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT ANY OF THAT.

A LOT OF STUFF REPEATS ITSELF.

I DON'T KNOW.

IT IS .. ALL OF THE SPORTS TEAMS ARE PLAYING AT THE SAME TIME.

HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE KAW KAW.

>> I WHATEVER IWHATEVER IT IS, WE NEED SOMETHING.

>> WE'RE THE CHEAPEST GAME IN TOWN, PLUS YOU GET A MUG.

>> THAT'S TRUE: YOU DON'T GET UNLIMITED HOT DOGS AND NACHOS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, LIKE YOU DO IN THE GREEN SEATS AT BUSH, BUT YOU DO GET HORS D'OEUVRES AND DESSERTS.

>&g.. STATION ALL YEAR-ROUND.

IT'S NOT JUST THAT NIGHT.

>> HOW MANY PEOPLE GO FOR THE MUG AND NOT THE TICKET?

I WANT TO MEET THAT GUY.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY MY WIFE.

>> SHE'S MET US.

THE THRILL IS GONE FOR DR. MARY MCCLELLAN.

>> MARY HAS BEEN TO .. DONNYBASH WE'VE HAD.

>> AND YOU BRING THE.. >> I BRING MY GRANDKIDS.

I BRING MY GRANDDAUGHTER.

>> AND SHE CLOSES OUT THE SHOW.

>> I HOPE SHE'LL COME AGAIN THIS YEAR.

SHE'S 13 NOW.

>> I DON'T THINK SHE'S..

ANYBODY.

>..

EVOLVING.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> CAN I HAVE THE KEY?

>> CAN WE TALK ABOUT MY ALLOWANCE.

>> AND S..

THE SHOW, IT IS OUR TIME TO CLOSE OUT THE SHOW, SO WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT BACK TO THE OTHER STUDIO TO MARTIA.

>> I ALSO LOVE WHEN YOU ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST STORY IN SIX WEEKS.

HOPEFULLY THE .. THAT YOU ARE A MEMBER BEING AT DONNYBASH.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THEN Y.. ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS ALL ABOUT HOBNOBBING WITH ALL THE DONNYBROOKERS AND NINE PBS STAFF HERE, AND HAVING A REALLY GREAT TIME.

IT I..

ENTIRE SEASON.

I LOVE..

IT IS OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AS A MEMBER AND SUPPORTING US, AND SO AT THAT 75-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE THE OPTION OF THAT NINE PBS BIRTHDAY, 70th BIRTHDAY MUG, OR A TICKET TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE ON STAGE AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL ON APRIL 11th AT 5:30.

AND WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THIS EVENT IS THAT THE PRE-RECEPTION STARTS AT 5:30.

YOU GET TO SEE THE TAPING, AND THEN AFTER THE TAPING, YOU GET TO JOIN US FOR A POST-RECEPTION.

SO THE ENTIRE EVENING IS AMAZING.

SO AT THE 12-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU'LL RECEIVE 2 TICKETS AND THAT NINE PBS 70th BIRTHDAY MUG.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU CA.. AND KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SUPPORTED US AND HELPED US TO GET TO 70 AND HELPING TO LAUNCH US TO 70 MORE.

AT (800)568-9099.

CALL OR TEXT GIVE TO THAT NUMBER OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE NINEPBS.ORG.

THAT'S J..

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HELPING TO SUSTAIN US AND DO THE WORK THAT WE DO.

IF YOU LOVE DONNYBROOK, WE CAN ONLY CONTINUE TO PRODUCE PROGRAMS JUST LIKE THIS ONE BY YOU.

TO.. WEBSITE NINE PB NINEPBS.ORG.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.