>> Reilly: TONIGHT ON "GREATER BOSTON," I'M ADAM REILLY, IN FOR JIM BRAUDE.

WITH MAYOR MARTY WALSH IN D.C. TO ANSWER SENATORS' CONFIRMATION HEARING QUESTIONS, PLENTY MORE HAVE BEEN SWIRLING BACK HOME ABOUT HIS NEWLY INSTALLED POLICE COMMISSIONER, NOW SUSPENDED OVER PAST DOMESTIC ABUSE ACCUSATIONS.

THEN, LATER, THE G.O.P.

'S MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE PROBLEM.

MITT ROMNEY SAYS THE PARTY'S NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR THE TWO OF THEM.

SO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

WE'LL DISCUSS.

>>> MAYOR MARTY WALSH WAS IN WASHINGTON TODAY FOR PERHAPS THE BIGGEST MOMENT OF HIS CAREER TO DATE, THE CONFIRMATION HEARING FOR HIS NOMINATION AS U.S. LABOR SECRETARY.

>> THROUGHOUT MY CAREER, I'VE LED BY LISTENING, COLLABORATING, AND BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS.

THAT'S HOW, IF CONFIRMED, I WILL LEAD THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.

>> Reilly: BUT ON THE EVE OF HIS BIG D.C. INTERVIEW, WALSH WAS DEALING WITH A SCANDAL BACK HOME, SUSPENDING THE MAN HE'D TAPPED AND SWORN IN AS THE NEW BOSTON POLICE COMMISSIONER JUST TWO DAYS PRIOR AND LAUNCHING AN INVESTIGATION INTO A 1999 DOMESTIC ABUSE CLAIM.

ACCORDING TO "THE BOSTON GLOBE," WALSH TOOK ACTION AFTER A REPORTER SHARED DETAILS OF THE RESTRAINING ORDER COMMISSIONER DENNIS WHITE'S THEN-WIFE TOOK OUT AGAINST HER HUSBAND.

AT THE TIME, SHE ACCUSED HIM OF PUSHING HER AND HITTING HER.

AND A FRIEND TOLD POLICE THAT, AFTER A CONFRONTATION WITH HIS WIFE AND ANOTHER ACQUAINTANCE, WHITE SAID HE "WANTED TO SHOOT HER AND HIM."

WHITE DENIED THE CLAIMS IN COURT FILINGS, AND THE "GLOBE" COULD NOT FIND EVIDENCE HE WAS EVER CHARGED.

BUT, OF COURSE, NOW THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT JUST WHAT KIND OF VETTING WAS DONE BEFORE HIS APPOINTMENT AND HOW THE CASE WAS HANDLED MORE THAN 20 YEARS AGO.

I'M JOINED BY ANDREW RYAN, A "GLOBE" INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER WHO'S BEEN COVERING WHITE'S STORY AND WRITING A MULTIPART SERIES FOCUSED ON POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY; JAMARHL CRAWFORD, COMMUNITY ACTIVIST AND THE EDITOR OF "BLACKSTONIAN."

AND A MEMBER, ALONG WITH THE COMMISSIONER, OF THE MAYOR'S POLICE REFORM TASK FORCE.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

>> Reilly: ANDREW, LET ME START WITH YOU.

THIS DISTURBING ASPECT OF DENNIS WHITE'S PAST, HOW WIDELY KNOWN WERE THESE DETAILS INSIDE THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT?

>> IT'S A BIG DEPARTMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WIDELY KNOWN IT WAS.

I MEAN, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT AT THE GLOBE, WE HAVE AMASSED PUBLIC RECORDS TO BACKGROUND PEOPLE AND DOUBLE CHECK THINGS, THROUGH SOME OF THE HARD WORK OF SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES.

WE WERE CERTAINLY SURPRISED BY THIS ANNOUNCEMENT LAST THURSDAY WHEN SUDDENLY COMMISSIONER BROSS WAS RETIRING, AND WE HAD A BRAND NEW COMMISSIONER THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT, WHO WAS GOING TO BE SWORN IN IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.

WE CHECKED THROUGH OUR RECORDS, AND WE IMMEDIATELY, WITH WHAT WE FOUND, IMMEDIATELY WENT TO CBD THURSDAY AFTERNOON, SAYING WE WOULD LIKE DETAILS OF ALL OF THE GOOD THINGS HE'S DONE, ALL OF THE AWARDS, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT HIS INTERNAL AFFAIRS HISTORY, INCLUDING THESE THREE CASES.

AND WE LAID THEM OUT AND QUESTIONED THAT BACK THEN.

>> Reilly: THANK YOU FORGOING INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.

I FOUND MYSELF WONDERING IF IT WAS A DIME DROP BY SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WHITE HAD BEEN PROMOTED.

BUT YOU HAD THIS INFORMATION IN HAND WHEN THE SURPRISE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE, RIGHT?

>> YES AND NO.

WE HAD BARE BONES -6789D ONE OF THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS PEOPLE MADE US AWARE.

AND WE JUST STARTED COMBING THROUGH COURT RECORDS.

LAST MONDAY, AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT NOR'EASTER, I WENT TO PROBATE AND FAMILY COURT AND PULLED SOME RECORDS.

WE HAD BEEN IN ANOTHER COURT THE FRIDAY BEFORE.

SO WE DID NOT -- WE HAD TO GO AND DO OUR RESEARCH AND DIG THROUGH THINGS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THIS MIGHT STEM FROM.

>> Reilly: UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU.

JAMAL, YOU SERVED ON THE POLICE REFORM TASK FORCE WITH THE COMMISSIONER.

I WAS STRUCK WHEN HE WAS SWORN IN BY MAYOR WALSH, AT HOW DIFFERENT HIS TONE SEEMED TO BE COMPARED TO THE TONE HIS PREDECESSOR HAD ON THE WAY OUT, IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE GLOBE.

THE COMMISSIONER SEEMED TO BRISTLE AT THE IDEA OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF THE POLICE, SAYING I DON'T LIKE MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKING FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T WALKED IN MY SHOES.

THEY CAME OUT AND PRAISED YOU AND OTHER TASK FORCE MEMBERS FOR THE WORK YOU HAD ALL DONE TOGETHER AND SEEMED TO MIRE AND WELCOME THE IDEA OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT.

AM I RIGHT TO READ IT THAT WAY?

>> THAT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE.

AND I THINK IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE TONEK3 AND ATTITUDE OF EACH OF THE OTHER PREDECESSORS WHO, YOU KNOW, WHO SPENT THE MAJORITY OF THEIR ENERGY TRYING TO DISMISS IT, RUN AWAY FROM IT, SAY IT DOESN'T EXIST, AND PAINT SOME PEOPLE IN CASES, MYSELF INCLUDED, AS ALMOST CRAZY FOR SUGGESTING THESE THINGS HAPPENED.

A PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER, I THINK, JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WHILE RACE AND ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE BUBBLING UP ON D.P.D.

JUST SAID, I DON'T SEE RACISM ON THE D.P.D., I SEE BLUE.

YES, I DEFINITELY THINK THERE WAS A DEFINITE DIFFERENT TONE, AND DARE I SAY THAT COULD BE SOME OF THE REASONING WHY THIS LEVEL OF SCRUTINY COULD BE MAZEDPLACED ON HIM, AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, NOT ON OTHERS.

>> Reilly: LET ME ASK YOU TO ELABORATE.

BECAUSE FROM WHAT ANDREW SAID, THE GLOBE HAD SOME QUESTIONS, RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT DENNIS WHITE WHEN HE WAS APPOINTED, AND FLUSHED OUT THAT INFORMATION.

THEY FOLLOWED THE TRAIL AND CAME UP WITH THE QUESTIONS THAT LED TO WHITE EXITING.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HIM HAVING AN EXTRA LEVEL OF SCRUTINY, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY?

>> SPECIFICALLY, WHAT, DID HE JUST GET ON THE FORCE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO?

NO.

HE HAS BEEN ON THE FORCE FOR, WHAT IS IT, 27 YEARS -- >> Reilly: I HAVE IN MY HEAD, BALLPARK THREE DECADES.

>> AND HE HAS BEEN NUMBER THREE IN COMMAND AT LEAST UNDER THE TENURE OF FORMER COMMISSIONER WILLIAM BROSS, RIGHT.

>> Reilly: RIGHT.

HE WAS SUPERINTENDENT CHIEF-OF-STAFF.

>> SO IN MY EXPERIENCE, IN MY EXPERIENCE AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER AND ADVOCATE, WHO HAS BEGGED MEDIA OUTLETS LIKE THE GLOBE AND OTHERS FOR YEARS TO DO JUST THIS LEVEL OF STUDY, THIS LEVEL OF SCRUTINY, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS CERTAINLY A PROBLEM ON THE D.P.D.

I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.

TO THINK THAT DENNIS WHITE IS THE POSTER CHILD OR THE GREATEST SINNER, THAT STRIKES ME AS DISIN GENS WUS WHENDISINGENUOUS, WHEN WE HAVE A LEVEL OF SCRUTINY BROUGHT IN WHEN BROSS CAME IN, OR CERTAINLY WOULD BEG THE QUESTION, WHEN EVANS OR DAVIS -- OR LET'S DO THE 40OTHERS.

>> Reilly: PEOPLE ALWAYS EXPERIENCE EXTRA SCRUTINY WHEN THEY ARE IN THE LEADERSHIP POSITION.

SINCE IT IS THE GLOBE DOING THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF INVESTIGATIONS, ANDREW RYAN, DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND QUICKLY?

>> Reilly: SURE.

ONE THING FIRST, THE INFO WE HAD TO BEGIN WITH, AS WAS POINTED OUT, FOR SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN ON THE FORCE FOR THEE THREE DECADES, THAT'S A LONG TIME.

JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS COMPLAINTS, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY, IN AND OF ITSELF MEAN ANYTHING.

YOU NEED TO DIG DEEPER AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WAS BEHIND THOSE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE DOING.

ON THE SECOND POINT, CERTAINLY WHEN SOMEBODY GETS APPOINTED TO THE TOP POST, THEY GET MORE SCRUTINY.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.

YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WERE PARTICULARLY STRUCK BY WAS JUST THE PROCESS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT THERE -- WHEN WE LOOK AT PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS IN GENERAL, THERE WERE SEARCHES, THERE WERE FINALISTS, THERE WERE INTERVIEWS FOR, LIKE IN THE CASE OF THE PREVIOUS TWO, THERE WAS AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERIM PERIOD, THERE WAS SOME TIME AS ACTING COMMISSIONER, AND JUST THE SPEED OF THE SHIFT STRUCK US.

AND SO THAT OBVIOUSLY -- WE WANTED TO FIND OUT MORE, JUST TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD ABOUT THIS NEW PERSON WE DIDN'T KNOW A TON ABOUT, AND DIDN'T SEEM ALL THAT WELL-KNOWN BEYOND THE FORCE.

>> Reilly: CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE PACE OF THE REPLACEMENT OF WILLIAM BROSS, HE SEEMED TO STEP DOWN KIND OF OUT OF THE BLUE.

I'M WONDERING SINCE BOTH OF YOU, IN YOUR OWN DISTINCT WAYS, PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE B.T.D., WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE EVENT FOR MAYOR WALSH TO PUT DENNIS WHITE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S ROLE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, ON THE OUTSIDE, DIDN'T SEE COMING.

WHY DID MAYOR WALSH MOVE SO FAST?

>> I CAN'T AND WOULDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT TO ANSWER WHAT WAS IN HIS HEAD.

>> Reilly: ANDREW, ANY REASON?

ONE THING I THOUGHT OF IS THE MAYOR WILL BE GOING TO WASHINGTON, D.C.

SOON, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, AND MAYBE THIS IS A WAY TO GET A GUY WHO HE HAS LIKED WORKING IN, INTO A ROLE THAT MANFU ASIEDU SPIREDTHAT THATMANFU ASIEDU MAN HAS ASPIRED TO.

I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.

IT IS PRETTY COMMON IN GOVERNMENT, WHEN THERE IS A CHANGE OF EXECUTIVES, THAT PEOPLE PUT PEOPLE IN PLACE SO THEY'RE INFLUENCE AND LEGACY OUTLASTS THEM.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AS WELL.

AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN, AS COMMISSIONER BROSS HAS SAID, HE HAS BEEN ON THE JOB FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, AND HE WANTED TO WORK UNDER MAYOR WALSH AND THEN WAS READY TO RETIRE.

WE'RE CERTAINLY TRYING TO FIND OUT MORE.

>> Reilly: JAMAL, AS SOMEONE WHO FOUND DENNIS WHITE TO BE A PARTNER WHEN IT COMES TO COMING UP WITH IDEAS FOR POLICE REFORM AND IMPLEMENTING THOSE IDEAS, ARE YOU WORRIED THAT THE LIMBO STATE HIS APPOINTMENT IS NOW IN COULD END UPSETTING BACK THE REFORM CAUSE IN BOSTON?

OR AT LEAST MAYBE KEEPING IT FROM GOING FORWARD THE WAY YOU WOULD LIKE IN THE FUTURE?

>> I BELIEVE THOSE THAT ARE HAPPY THAT DENNIS WHITE IS NO LONGER IN THAT SEAT, YOU KNOW, ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST MOVING TOWARDS ANY KIND OF REFORM OR SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE ON THE B.P.D.

THEY LIKE THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE, THEY WANT THE STATUS QUO, THE GOOD OLD BOYS' NETWORK.

SO, YES, I THINK THAT THIS SITUATION -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT REALLY JEOPARDIZES ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SET IN STONE OR IN MOTION, BUT IT CERTAINLY EMBOLDENS THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO SEE CHANGE.

THIS IS CERTAINLY A SMALL -- I THINK THEY PROBABLY SEE IT AS A SMALL VICVICTORY FOR THEMSELVES.

HA-HA, WE'VE GOT ONE.

BECAUSE THE OUST TERER OF DENNIS WHITE IS NOT A VICTORY FOR THE CITY, IT IS NOT A VICTORY FOR THE B.P.D.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING, THE GLOBE OR ANYBODY ELSE, IF THIS IS NOW A NEW CONCERN FOR THE GLOBE -- IF THIS IS NOW A NEW CONCERN FOR THE GLOBE, I'M ABSOLUTELY 100% BEHIND IT, AND I HOPE THEY DO IT, BUT THEY JUST HAVE TO BROADEN THE SCOPE.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT RIGHT NOW ONE GUY HAS GOTTEN HIT, AND WE KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT -- DENNIS WHITE IS NOT THE CRUX OF WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE B.P.D.

IN FACT, HE IS A GOOD PORTION OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY RIGHT ABOUT IT.

>> Reilly: GO AHEAD.

>> TO BE FAIR, OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, WE'VE WRITTEN ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT OFFICERS.

SO THIS HAS NOT JUST BEEN FOCUSED ON A SINGLE PERSON.

>> HE SAID SIX MONTHS.

>> I'M JUST SAYING FOR ME, PERSONALLY.

>> I READ IT ALL, BUT YOU SAID SIX MONTHS.

I'VE LIVED IN THIS CITY SINCE I'VE BEEN 17.

AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS OVER THE DECADES, THE GLOBE HAS BEEN VERY MUCH EAGER TO JUMP ON THE STORIES THAT INCREASE THEIR PROFILE, BUT THEY'VE ALSO SHIED AWAY FROM SOME OF THE STORIES THAT ARE A LITTLE TOUGHER THAT SHOW SOME OF THE UNDER-BELLY THERE.

I'M FOR FAIR JOURNALISM ACROSS THE BOARD.

>> Reilly: THE GOOD NEWS IS, AS A GLOBE READER, THERE HAS BEEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF SKEPTICISM, AND IT SO I ASSUME -- >> WE NEED NAMES AND CASES TO SHOW YOU IS DISPARAGING TREATMENT.

BECAUSE I HAVE A LIST.

>> Reilly: UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE TIME.

BUT I'LL LOOK FOR YOU ON TWITTER.

BECAUSE I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED OF SURFACING REALLY TROUBLING BEHAVIOR.

WE'VE GOT TO LEAVE IT THERE, ANDREW AND JAMAL, THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I LOOK TO POLICYHOLDER PARTNER WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE.

>>> NEXT UP, ANOTHER DAY OF RECKONING FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WITH A MAJOR VOTE ON WHETHER TO STRIP CONGRESSWOMAN MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE OF HER COMMITTEE POSITIONS FOR PROMOTING OUTLANDISH AND DANGEROUS Q-ANON CONSPIRACY THEORIES, AND INDICATING SUPPORT FOR PEOPLE CALLING TO EXECUTE PROMINENT DEMOCRATS.

THE VOTE COMES A DAY AFTER SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE G.O.P.

LEADERSHIP REPORTEDLY GAVE GREENE A STANDING OVATION IN A CLOSED-DOOR MEETING.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, THEY KINDLY OPTED NOT TO STRIP THE THIRD-RANKING HOUSE REPUBLICAN, LIZ CHENEY, OF HER LEADERSHIP ROLE OVER HER VOTE TO IMPEACH DONALD TRUMP LAST MONTH, REPORTEDLY BY A VOTE OF 154-61.

BUT IT WAS MINORITY LEADER KEVIN McCARTHY'S CALL NOT TO TAKE ACTION ON GREENE, EFFECTIVELY FORCING HIS MEMBERS TO GO ON THE RECORD AND PICK A SIDE.

AND AHEAD OF THE VOTE, GREENE TOOK TO THE FLOOR TODAY TO ADDRESS THE CONTROVERSY.

>> SCHOOL SHOOTINGS ARE ABSOLUTELY REAL.

9/11 ABSOLUTELY HAPPENED.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IT WAS FAKED.

I WAS ALLOWED TO BELIEVE THINGS THAT WEREN'T TRUE, AND I WOULD ASK QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM, AND TALK ABOUT THEM.

AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT I REGRET.

I NEVER ONCE SAID ANY OF THE THINGS I'M BEING ACCUSED OF TODAY DURING MY CAMPAIGN.

I'VE NEVER SAID ANY OF THESE THINGS SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED TO CONGRESS.

THESE WERE WORDS -- ARE FROM THE PAST.

>> Reilly: OF COURSE, THIS COMES JUST FIVE DAYS AFTER GREENE TWEETED ABOUT HER ELECTION CONSPIRACY THEORIES: "I WON'T BACK DOWN.

I'LL NEVER APOLOGIZE."

AND FOR THE RECORD, THOSE OTHER COMMENTS SHE'S REFERRING TO FROM WHAT SHE CALLS "THE PAST" ARE FROM 2017, 2018, AND 2019.

AS OF THIS TAPING, THE OFFICIAL VOTE HAS NOT YET HAPPENED, BUT THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE MANY.

I'M JOINED BY FORMER REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR SECRETARY OF STATE, ANTHONY AMORE, AND REPUBLICAN ACTIVIST AND COMMENTATOR, ED LYONS.

ANTHONY AND ED, THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Reilly: LET ME ASK YOU BOTH ABOUT THIS IDEA OF MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE BECAUSE THE COMMENTS SHE MADE DIDN'T HAPPEN WHEN SHE WAS RUNNING OR AFTER SHE WAS ELECTED, THEY ARE PERHAPS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN OTHERWISE.

WE OUTLINED SOME OF THE STUFF SHE SAID IN THE INTRODUCTION.

SHE SAID NANCY PELOSI SHOULD GET A BULLET TO THE HEAD.

AND SHE SAID OF Q-ANON, DEMOCRATIC IS SATANISTS ARE RUNNING THE COUNTRY.

SHE SAID IT IS A ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME TO TAKE THESE PEOPLE OUT, AND I THINK WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT TO DO IT.

SO, WHEN YOU SAY THINGS LIKE THAT, IS THERE ANY KIND OF STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS, OR SHOULD THERE BE?

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> WELL, I THINK THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO EVALUATE A PERSON WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE INTERNET THAT NEVER FORGETS, I THINK WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE THESE QUESTIONABLE COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE'S YOUTH COME UP, AND I THINK THOSE SHOULD BE DEBATED.

WHEN YOU RUN FOR OFFICE, YOU RUN ON YOUR RECORD.

WHEN SHE WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE, BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T SAY OBJECTIONABLE THINGS FOR, WHAT, A YEAR, DOESN'T MEAN SHE SHOULDN'T BE HELD ACCOUNT FOR THE OUTRAGEOUS AND NUTTY THINGS YOU JUST OUTLINED.

I THINK SHE IS FULLY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THESE ABSURD STATEMENTS.

>> Reilly: I'M GUESSING YOU'RE ON THE SAME PAGE AS ANTHONY THERE, AM I RIGHT?

>> YES, OF COURSE.

THIS WAS SAID WHEN SHE WAS A GROWNUP, AND INVOLVED IN THINGS.

SHE SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE.

IT IS BAD FOR THE COUNTRY THAT SOMEONE LIKE THAT SAID THOSE THINGS.

>> Reilly: ANTHONY, HOUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN PUSHING KEVIN McCARTHY TO REMOVE HER FROM HER COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS, AND NOW THE ENTIRE HOUSE IS GOING TO VOTE.

IF YOU'RE KEVIN McCARTHY, WHY NOT JUST GO AHEAD AND STRIP THOSE ASSIGNMENTS FROM HER IF, FOR NO OTHER REASON, BECAUSE IT IS PROBABLY SMART POLITICS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE TAGGED WITH SOMEONE WHO IS A LIABILITY IN THE WAY THAT MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE ALREADY IS?

WHY NOT MAKE THAT MOVE?

>> I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THE DEMOCRATS HAVE APPROACHED IT, YOU CAN SEE WHY MAYBE McCARTHY MIGHT FIGHT BACK.

I DON'T WANT TO DEFEND MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE IN ANY WAY.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PELOSI'S STATEMENTS YESTERDAY, CALLING HIM -- CALLING KEVIN McCARTHY USING "Q"s INSTEAD OF -- >> Reilly: AS OPPOSED TO Q-ANON.

>> YES.

IT'S DISGUSTING.

AND YOU THINK THE SAME THING FROM KATHRYN CLARK, SPELLING REPUBLICAN WITH A "Q" IN IT.

WHY WOULDN'T THE REPUBLICAN SIDE SAY LET'S EXTEND AN OLIVE BRANCH WHEN THOSE TWO ARE CLEARLY LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO SUBSTITUTE FOR TRUMP, SOMEONE TO POINT AT AS THE BAD GUY.

AND LET ME CLEAR, MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE BRINGS IT UPON HERSELF, SHE IS THE PERFECT SITTING DUCK FOR THIS, BUT DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE IT IN A DISINGENUOUS FASHION.

THEY FAILED TO VOTE FOR A RESOLUTION AGAINST THE VIAL ANTI-SEMITIC REMARKS BY ILHAN OMAR IN THE PAST.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO BE PROUD OF.

MAXINE WATERS CALLED FOR VIOLENCE AGAINST MEMBERS OF A PREJUDICIAL ADMINISTRATION.

I MEAN, IT IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE, WHEN THE POLITICIANS ARE USING SOCIAL MEDIA TO SAY THINGS YOU WOULD ADMONISH YOUR TEENAGED CHILD FOR.

>> Reilly: ED, ANTHONY HAD A PARALLEL BETWEEN THE THINGS THAT DEMOCRATS ILHAN OMAR HAVE SAID ON ONE SIDE AND MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE SAID ON THE OTHER?

>> I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BASE IT ON WHAT PREVIOUS CONGRESSMEN HAVE DONE.

I THINK THAT STEVE KING, THE FORMER CONGRESSMAN FROM OHIO, LOST ASSIGNMENTS BECAUSE HE SAID RACIST THINGS, AND THERE CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN RACIST DEMOCRATS IN THE PAST.

I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT CASES AS THEY COME UP.

SHE SHOULD SUFFER CONSEQUENCES NO MATTER WHAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.

>> Reilly: MY OWN TAKE ON THIS, BECAUSE I'M SO WORRIED ABOUT WHAT SEEMS TO BE AN INCREASING ACCEPTANCE OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE IN THE COUNTRY, AND I'M SPOOKED BY ANYONE WHO ENDORSES THAT BEING IN A LEADERSHIP ROLE.

SO BY WAY OF PERSONAL DISCLOSURE, AS A CITIZEN WHO HAS KIDS WHO WILL BE GROWING UP HERE, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GIVES ME GREAT PAUSE WITH THIS.

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE DIEDIVIRGENT RESPONSES.

HE SAID, "OUR BIG TENT IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO BOTH ACCOMMODATE CONSERVATIVES AND KOOKS."

ROMNEY IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE G.O.P., BUT MITCH McCONNELL CALLED HER A CANCER ON THE PARTY.

YOUON THE OTHER HAND, YOU HAVE A BIG CHUNK OF THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS NOT JUST SAYING WE DON'T LIKE WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE PUSHING US TO DO, BUT ACTUALLY GIVING HER A STANDING OVATION.

BETWEEN REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE AND REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE, WHO DOES THE MOMENTUM LIE WITH RIGHT NOW, AMONG THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS A WHOLE?

>> THAT'S TOUGH TO SAY.

ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THE STANDING OVATION STORY, WHEN I FIRST READ IT, IT SAID ABOUT HALF OF THEM STOOD AND THEN PEOPLE STARTED DRAWING BACK ON THAT.

AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE SAID THAT PRECIPITATED THE PEOPLE WHO DID TO STAND UP.

SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY CONCILIATORY.

AND I WANT TO SAY I'M NOT MAKING THE ARGUMENT SHE SHOULDN'T BE REMOVED FROM COMMITTEES, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE ATTITUDE IN GENERAL.

IT IS HARD TO TELL.

WHEN YOU GO ON TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA AT ANY MINUTE AND YOU'LL HAVE A DIFFERENT SENSE OF WHERE THE PARTY IS.

I DON'T BELIEVE -- I DON'T KNOW REPUBLICANS WHO ARE ADMIRERS OF THAT BRAND OF POLITICS.

I SIDE WITH MITT ROMNEY IN THIS.

I THINK HE SAID IT REALLY WELL.

THERE IS NO TENT FOR ANY PARTY BIG ENOUGH FOR THIS SORT OF VIOLENT TALK AND OUTLANDISH, ABSURD CONSPIRACY ACCUSATIONS.

I THINK MITCH IS RIGHT.

I HOPE THAT OUR PARTY LEANS CENTER RIGHT.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE OF A MITT ROMNEY THAN A MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE.

MY SENSE IS, FROM THE PEOPLE I KNOW, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT.

I JUST HOPE I'M RIGHT.

>> Reilly: THERE IS ACTUALLY EVIDENCE THAT IT MIGHT BE TRENDING IN THE DIRECTION YOU WANT.

THERE WAS A POLL RECENTLY THAT SHOWED SUPPORT FOR Q-ANON BY REPUBLICANS DROPPING 24%, I THINK IT WAS AT 38 PARTICULARS 38% IN OCTOBER.

ED, YOU HAVE THE FINAL WORD.

>> THE CONSTITUTION IS FOR THE HOUSE TO (indiscernable).

THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE ARE REFLECTING THEY'RE MUCH CLOSER TO THE VOTERS.

AND THE SENATE IS FURTHER AWAY, MORE INSULATED, THEY CAN BE MORE CIRCUMSPECT ABOUT Q-ANON, MORE THAN THE HOUSE COULD BE.

THE PASSION OF THE BASE IS MUCH MORE TOWARDS Q-ANON THUNDER I WOULDTHAN I WOULD LIKE.

24% IS AN OUTRAGEOUS AMOUNT.

PEOPLE LIKE ANTHONY DON'T WANT IT, I DON'T WANT IT.

I THINK IN THIS STATE, HOPEFULLY WE WILL REJECT IT.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN SOME OF THIS, UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS REAL AND WE HAVE TO OPPOSE IT.

>> Reilly: THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU.

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