Beat the Press
February 5, 2021
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February 5, 2021
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> Rooney: I'M EMILY ROONEY.
WELCOME TO "BEAT THE PRESS."
OUR TOPICS: JAILED RUSSIAN OPPOSITION LEADER ALEXEI NAVALNY IS ALSO A JOURNALIST WITH REMARKABLE SKILLS; THE BIDEN WHITE HOUSE ASKS JOURNALISTS FOR QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE AND TAKES HEAT, BUT IS THE PRACTICE NOW; AND IT'S AN OBSESSION WITH PATRIOT FANS AND THE MEDIA ALIKE, THE DEBATE OVER ROOTING FOR OR AGAINST TOM BRADY.
PLUS, OUR PANEL'S RANTS AND RAVES OF THE WEEK.
JOINING ME ARE FORMER CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT DAN LOTHIAN; THE "BOSTON GLOBE'S" LYLAH ALPHONSE; ADAM REILLY OF GBH NEWS; AND JON KELLER OF WBZ NEWS.
FIRST UP, BY NOW EVERYONE IS AWARE OF RUSSIAN OPPOSITION LEADER ALEXEI NAVALNY'S PLIGHT.çó AFTER BEING POISONED BY RUSSIAN AGENTS, NAVALNY RECOVERED IN GERMANY, THEN RETURNED TO RUSSIA, ONLY TO BE ARRESTED ON FLIMSY CHARGES.
NOW HE'S FACING A LENGTHY PRISON SENTENCE, ALL OF IT FOLLOWING HIS LATEST YOUTUBE VIDEO, EXPOSING WIDESPREAD CORRUPTION BY VLADIMIR PUTIN.
LOOKING COMPOSED AND CLEAN-SHAVEN ALEXEI NAVALNY APPEARED IN A RUSSIAN COURT THIS WEEK WHERE HE WAS PROMPTLY SENTENCED TO MORE THAN TWO YEARS IN PRISON.
FOR WEEKS NAVALNY'S SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN PROTESTING HIS ARREST, A PROTEST INSPIRED IN PART BY NAVALNY'S INVESTIGATIVEÑi REPORTING INTO RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN'S ACCUMULATION OF EXTREME WEALTH.
THE VIDEO, NARRATED IN RUSSIAN BUT WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES, IS HIGHLY DETAILED AND DOCUMENTED.
OVER THE COURSE OF TWO HOURS, NAVALNY METICULOUSLY REVEALS THE DEPTH OF PUTIN'S CORRUPTION,Ald & HIS OWN DAUGHTERS.ÑiÑi AND I TAKES VIEWERS TO THE SITE OF PUTIN'S ENORMOUS SECRET PALACE OVERLOOKING THE BLACK SEA.
NAVALNY EXPLAINS THAT THE PALACE IS NOT OWNED BY A WEALTHY RUSSIAN BUSINESSMAN AS MANY BELIEVE, IT BELONGS TO ONE PERSON.
VLADIMIR PEUT INN.çó PUTIN.Ñi >> Rooney: OF COURSE, THAT KIND OF HONESTLY PROBABLY DIDN'T DO NAVALNY ANY FAVORS WHEN IT CAME TO HIS SENTENCING THIS WEEK, BUT HE HAS CREATED AN AWARENESS, AMONG HIS COUNTRYMEN, AND PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANTLY, AROUND THE WORLD.
SO LYLAH, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE NOW VIEWED THIS THING ON YOUTUBE.
IT IS ACTUALLY REMARKABLE.
TWO HOURS LONG, A BIT LENGTHY BUT THE DOCUMENTATION IS UNBELIEVABLE.
HE GOT BLUEPRINTS, A DRONE VIDEO OF THE ENTIRES PAM AS.
HE WAS ABLE TO RECREATE THE INTERIOR OF THE PALACE.
HE TRICKED THE ITALIAN FURNITURE MAKERS INTO DISCUSSING HOW MUCH THE FURNITURE COST.
>> THE LEVEL OF DETAIL IS ASTONISHING.
MY HAT IS OFF TO HIM FOR ALL THE PREP WORK.
HE, HIS CREW, ANYONE ELSE INVOLVED INTO THIS, I THINK SOME OF THE OUTRAGE OVER IT AND SOME OF THE JUSTIFICATION WE'RE HEARING NOW FROM THE OTHER SIDE HAS TO DO WITH SEMANTICS.
JUST BECAUSE PUTIN DIDN'T BUY IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT PUTIN'S.
AND I THINK WE SEE A LOT OF THAT IN THE AMERICAN MEDIA.
FOR SOME HE REASON I KEPT THINKING OF JONATHAN SWANN FROM AXIOS AND HE WAS SO WELL PREPARED.
HE KNEW THE ANSWER TO EVERY QUESTION BEFORE HE ASKED IT KIND OF THING.
AND I THINK WE'RE SEEING NOW THAT DID YOU'RE GOING TO LEVEL ANY SORT OF ACCUSATION AT ANYONE WHO IS IN POWER YOU NEED TO BRING THE RECEIPTS AND THESE ARE THE RECEIPTS AD INFINITUM.
THERE IS SO MANY THERE.
I THINK THERE IS A LEVEL OF ADVOCACY VOWRM THAT JOURNALISM WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE.
AND THAT CAME UP TO ME WHEN I WATCHED THIS LONG ALMOST DOCUMENTARY OF SORTS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE U.S. PRESS WOULD DO IN A SITUATION OF THESE SORTS BUT IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THIS METHOD USED.
>> LOOK, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A WONDERFUL PROJECT EXPOSING EXCESS DURING THE TIME OF NEED ESPECIALLY WITH THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC.
WHAT I LIKED ABOUT IT IS THESE ARE THE TYPES OF STORIES THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO TELL.
WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO SOMETHING, YOU HAVE A LOT OF DATA, NUMBERS AND SO FORTH AND USING GRAPHICS AND OF COURSE USING THE DRONE FOOTAGE HE WAS ABLE TO REALLY PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT NOT ONLY WAS IT INFORMATIVE BUT IT WAS QUITE ENTERTAINING.
FOR EXAMPLE WHEN WE WERE HEADING OUTÑi TO THAT SECRET PALACE YOU FELT LIKE YOU WERE GOING ALONG.
THEY WERE INFLATING THAT BOAT AND SAYING -- LOOK HERE'S WHAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH TO GET HERE AND NOBODY EVEN KNOWS, THE COPS DON'T KNOW WE'RE HERE.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS AMAZING IN HOW IT WAS PUT TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT MADE YOU WANT TO WATCH.
AND FINALLY I THINK WHAT IT MADE ME DO IS QUESTION WHAT WAS MY COMMITMENT TO JOURNALISM, RIGHT?
HOW FAR YOU'RE ABLE TO GO, EXPOSING A STORY WHEN DOING SO SO MAY WIND YOU BEING DEAD.
RPM BEING.
>> Rooney: BEING DEAD YES.
>> I HAVE A HARD TIME DOING A TWO AND A HALF MINUTE PIECE MILDLY COMPLICATED FOR GREATER BOSTON, MILDLY COMPLICATED.
I WANT TO GO BACK AND GET NOTES WHAT SPECIFICALLY NAVALNY MADE TWO HOURS INCREDIBLY WATCHABLE.
THE FUNNY GRAPHICS Kr THING, MAKING HIM LOOK LIKE MARIA ANTOINETTE.
THERE IS A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR THERE.
I'M NOT SURE EVEN ON MY BEST DATE I CAN MATCH NAVALNY'S CHARISMA.
HE IS PUBLIC HEALTH SELF ASSURED, KNOWS EVERYTHING IN AND OUT.
I'D LIKE TO COULD SOMETHING AN EIGHTH OF THE LENGTH, HALF AS GOOD SOMETIME.
>> THE GUY IS A GLOBAL HERO, LET'S BE HONEST ABOUT IT.
AND HIS COURAGE IS BEYOND MEASURE.
HE'S PUTTING HIS LIFE ON THE LINE.
THEY'VE ALREADY TRIED TO KILL HIM ONCE.
I'M SURE THEY WILL AGAIN YET THERE HE IS.
HE CAME BACK TO RUSSIA, WHEN HE DIDN'T NEED TO AFTER BEING TREATED IN GERMANY KNOWING THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO WHAT CAN I SAY?
I'M IN AWE OF THE GUY.
AS FAR AS THE JOURNALISTIC ANGLE ON THIS, IT'S ALMOST AS IF HE'S FUSING FRONT LINE STYLE, HIGH GLOSS, IN DEPTH DOCUMENTARY MAKING.
WITHEXPERT USE OF GRAPHICS AND METICULOUS RESEARCH WITH SPY MAGAZINE-STYLEçó SNARK AND ALMOST WICKED HUMOR.
AND WHILE IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S SORT OF, WE'RE UNUSED TO SEEING AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT JARRING, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE.
I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF IT NOT LESS.
>> Rooney: I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT JON.
WE DON'T THINK OF RUSSIANS AS HAVING Açó SENSE OF HUMOR, I DON'T KNOW WHOSE FAULT THAT IS EXCEPT CREUSHçóC.O.O.
KRUSCHEV'S FOOT ON THE TABLE.
IF THIS HAS ANY SWAY POAFER WHETHER HE'LL BE RELEASED, TOO.
>>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, THERE'S AN INEVITABLE PUSH AND PULL BETWEEN REPORTERS AND SPOKESPEOPLE.
EACH SIDE HAS SOMETHING THE OTHER ONEú ULTIMATE GOALS ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
NOW, THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE BIDEN WHITE HOUSE AND THE PEOPLE WHO COVER IT IS GETTING A CLOSER LOOK AND SPARKING ALLEGATIONS OF IMPROPRIETY.
ADAM HAS MORE.
>> Reporter: DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WAREHOUSE PRESS CONFERENCES WERE MUST SEE TV FOR BETTER OR WORSE.
>> THIS WAS THE LARGEST AUDIENCE TO EVER WITNESS AN INAUGURATION, PERIOD!
>> YOU ARE A RUDE, TERRIBLE PERSON.
>> Reporter: BUT WITH NEW PRESS SECRETARY JENNIFER PSAKI AT TM BEEN KIND OF BORING.
>> OUR VIEW IS THAT WE MUST PREPARE TO DRAW ON AND ANALYZE INFORMATION COLLECTED BY OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.
>> Reporter: BUT MAYBE, THE DRAMA IS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES!
CITING "THREE SOURCES WITHñr KNOWLEDGE OF THE MATTER," THE "DAILY BEAST" REPORTS THAT BIDEN STAFF HAVE "ALREADY ON OCCASION QUESTIONS THEY PLAN ON ASKING WHEN CALLED UPON."
RIGHT-WING MEDIA SEIZED ON THE REPORT AS MORE PROOF OF A DASTARDLY DOUBLE STANDARD.
>> IMAGINE IF THE WHITE HOUSE ASKED REPORTERS TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS FOR SARAH SANDERS OR KAYLEIGH McENANY!
>> Reporter: BUT ACTUALLY, REPORTER-TURNED-SPOKESMAN DAVE GUARINO SAYS, "THE DAILY BEAST'S" SCOOP IS A NON-STORY.
>> THE WHITE HOUSE IS DOING THEIR JOB IN THIS INSTANCE.
IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR EONS BEFORE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, AND IT'LL BE THAT WAY LONG AFTER.
>> Reporter: BECAUSE HE SAYS, FLACKS AND JOURNALISTS BOTH HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO COMPARE NOTES BEFOREHAND.
>> WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE COM STAFF HERE WAS TRYING TO DO IS, GET THE INFORMATION SO WHETHER SHE WAS AT THE PODIUM ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS, SHE COULD ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
AND MOST REPORTERS I'VE WORKED WITH, AND WHEN I WAS A REPORTER, THAT'S FINE.
BECAUSE REALLY, ALL YOU WANT IS AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.
>> Reporter: OF COURSE, SOME REPORTERS MIGHT WANT TO STEER CLEAR OF QUESTIONS.
BUT THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT'S HAPPENING HERE, WHICH MAKES THE "DAILY BEAST'S" BREATHLESS "EXCLUSIVE" EVEN STRANGER.
>> Rooney: WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME REAL NEWS CAME OUT OF A WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING?
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.
A LOT OF THESE GAFFS MADE NEWS, CERTAINLY SEAN SPICER AND SOME OF THE RIDICULED THINGS PEOPLE WERE SAYING, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN PEOPLE MAKING NEWS, ENDING UP BEING A REALLY IMPORTANT STORY FOR THE DAY.
IT'S VERY RARE.
>> WHAT DROVE ME CRAZY ABOUT THE DAILY BEAST STORY IS YOU START READING IT AND HALFWAY IN MAYBE TWO-THIRDS OF A WAY IN, THEY SAY, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER FOR MANY YEARS AND IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
THEY DON'T PROVIDE EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT CALLED UPON BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING JEN PSAKI REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO BE UPSET ABOUT IT BUT THE PRESS POINTED OUT THAT JEN PSAKI HAS CALLED ON EVERY SINGLE REPORTER IN THE BRIEFING ROOM.
SO WHAT'S THE STORY?
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
AS I THINK EVERY OTHER PANELIST WILL SAY.
A SPOKESPERSON WANTS TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM SO THEY'RE NOT BLIND SIDED.
MY PREFERENCE IS TO TELL THEM NOT EXACTLY WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK, YOU WANT SOMETHING OF A GOTCHA MOMENT, TO COME FROM AN ANGLE THEY HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT.
IT IS A POSITION FROM MUTUAL TRUST AND THE PRESS SIDE TO ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF NOTICE WITHIN REASON.
>> YEAH, THERE'S NO STORY HERE.
THIS IS LIKE REALLY LOOKING FOR OUTRAGE.
AND THE WHOLE -- COULD YOU IMAGINE IF SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE NOT THEIR EXACT QUESTIONS BUT THEIR GENERAL TOPICS, SO SHE COULD PREPARE AND BRING THAT MASSIVE BINDER OF INFORMATION TO THE BRIEFING ROOM AND BE ABLE TO ANSWER THINGS.
OF COURSE THERE ARE THINGSçó THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ANSWER FULLY.
THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO GIVE YOU EVERY SINGLE TINY TINY DETAIL BUT BASIC PREP WORK, SAYING WHAT TOPICS DO YOU WANT ME TO COVER, MAKE SURE I CAN ANSWER THAT, THAT IS TOTALLY NORMAL AS ADAM POINTED OUT SHE HAS SO-CALLED ON EVERY SINGLE REPORTER IN THE ROOM.
SHE HAS DECIDE STEPPED QUESTIONS THE WAY ALL P RFORT REPS SIDE STEP QUESTIONS BUT SHE HASN'T AVOIDED CALLING ON SOMEONE BECAUSE SHE DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE TO -- SHE DOESN'T LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAIS SAY.
NOW, WAIT, THIS WAS A NORMAL BORING PRESS CONFERENCE AND WE NEED TO BRIGHTEN IT UP.
>> YES, LIKE IF YOU ARE REALLY EXPECTING HARD CORE BREAKING NEWS TO COME OUT OF THESE BRIEFINGS THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN FOR A LONG WAIT.
THAT'S JUST NOT THE WAY IT WORKS.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE BEST POLITICAL REPORTERS IN THE BUSINESS,çó MAGGIEçó HABERMAN, JONATHAN SWANN THEY DON'T SHOW UP AT THESE THINGS.
ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE PEOPLE WHO DO, THEY ARE HARDWORKING JOURNALISTS, MOST OF THEM DO A GOOD JOB.
ALSO THE NOTION OF WHAT IF THE TRUMP PEOPLE TRIED TO PULL THIS?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
THEY ARE CALLING UPON SICK FAN TICKSYCOPHANTIC PARTISANS.
TWO WEEKS IN A ROLE WE TALKED ABOUT THESE FAKE STORIES INDICTING THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS.
CAN WE GET AND END TO THIS?
>> Rooney: THE BUCK STOPS HERE.
>> IF THEY WERE ASKING FOR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK WOULD BE WRONG.
THAT'S MY PERSONAL FEELING.
I DON'T THINK THAT ANY PRESS SECRETARY SHOULD BE TELLING ME TELL ME SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING OR ANYONE ELSE, BEFORE YOU ASK THAT QUESTION.
I DO THINK IT IS COMPLETELY NORMAL TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT IT IS YOU'RE INTERESTED IN FOR THAT DAY AND THAT HAPPENED ALL THE TIME DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
THEY WOULD YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WERE HUDDLING PRIOR TO THE BRIEFING, THEY WOULD SAY SO WHAT ARE YOU GUYS INTERESTED IN TODAY?
AND WOULD YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE WELL, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCE INDUSTRY, OR WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GENERAL SENSE SO THEY KNOW THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO PRESENT, AT THE BRIEFING.
NOW, AND, YOU KNOW, IT COULD GO WRONG FOR THEM IF YOU DIDN'T GIVEN THEM SOMETHING AND PERHAPS IT WAS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO LET'S SAY RUSSIA RIGHT AND THAT WASN'T ON THEIR RADAR FOR THE DAY AND YOU GO OUT THERE AND BLIND SIDEñr THEM.
WHAT WILL THEY SAY?
WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT, RIGHT?
SO IF YOU REALLY WANT INFORMATION ON A PARTICULAR STORY THAT MAY NOT EVEN BE DRIVING THE NEWS CYCLE THAT DAY YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM A BROAD SENSE OF WHAT IT IS YOU WANT TO ADDRESS BUT NOT THE QUESTION.
AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO MAKING NEWS, YES, THERE'S NO REAL NEWS THAT HAPPENS AT THESE THINGS BUT THE NEWS CAN HAPPEN DEPENDING ON HOW THEY ANSWER THE QUESTION.
THE BACK AND FORTH OR SOMETHING THAT GOES WRONG.
>> Rooney: NOW JON WE ARE MOVING ON TO IMPORTANT THINGS.
AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, THE SUPER BOWL IS THIS SUNDAY.
AND, FOR NEW ENGLAND'S NOTORIOUSLY INSULAR SPORTS FANS AND THE LOCAL MEDIA, IT'S NOT ABOUT WHICH TEAM YOU ARE ROOTING FOR.
IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHO YOU ARE ROOTING FOR, OR AGAINST.
THAT, OF COURSE, WOULD BE THE GOAT: TOM BRADY.
>> OUR EX-QB IS GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL.
A LOT OF MIXED REACTION ON TWITTER AND FACEBOOK.
>> THAT'S FOR SURE, BUT THE FLURRY OF COMMENTS IS REALLY ONLY FOCUSED ON ONE THING, HOW COULD YOU SUPPORT HIM, OR HOW COULD YOU NOT?
>> I WISH HE DIDN'T LEAVE.
>> I FEEL LIKE I'M SPYING ON THE EX BY FRIEND WATCHING THE GAME.
>> >> IT KIND OF RUNS THE GAMUT WITH FANS.
SOME OF THEM LOVE HIM, SOME OF THEM NOT SO HAPPY ABOUT IT >> Rooney: IT'S A THEME THAT HAS FIXATED AND POLARIZED THE MEDIA >> I DON'T LIKE THE PATRIOTS, I DON'T LIKE THE BUCS.
I'VE BEEN WON OVER BY THAT GUY.
>> HE BRINGS A UNIQUE SENSIBLE BELIEF TO THE LOCKER ROOM.
>> Rooney: IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE ALL BEHIND HIM.
NOT FARING WELL IN THE PLAIRPTD CONTEST, BRADY'S FORMER COACH, BILL BELICHICK.
>> IT CAN'T BE FUN FOR BILL TO PICK UP THE "HERALD," AND TOM BRADY SENIOR TELLING KAREN GUREGIAN THAT BILL MUST BE ON THE HOT SEAT.
>> Rooney: THAT'S THE "BOSTON GLOBE'S" DAN SHAUGHNESSY TALKING ABOUT THIS "HERALD" ARTICLE WHERE TOM BRADY SENIOR SPEAKS GLOWINGLY OF BOB KRAFT AND BRUSHES OFF BELICHICK AS ON THE HOT SEAT, WHICH, DAN BELIEVES HE IS.
MEANWHILE IN THE SCOREKEEPER DEPARTMENT SHAUGHNESSY HAS IT ATÑi BRADY 1, PATRIOTS ZERO, THE REST OF US A BUNCH OF LOSERS.
KIND OF FEELS THAT WAY.
ALL RIGHT, JON.
ALL THE MAJOR SPORTS GUYS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TOM BRADY.
YOU HARDLY HEAR THE TERM KANSAS.
IT'S NOT ABOUT ONE TEAM OR THE OTHER, THAT ONE GUY, WHO ARE YOU ROOTING FOR, IT BECOMES LIKE A PARLOR GAME ALL WEEK.
I WAS KIND OF RESISTING IT BUT NOW I'M ON BOARD.
>> IT'S NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
IT'S AN AMAZING COMPELLING STORY, TOM BRADY IS AN AMAZING ATHLETE, HE HAD ALL REASONS TO SEEK GREENER PASTURES ELSEWHERE.
HAVING SAID THAT I'M NOT ROOTING FOR TOM BRADY.
THE NOTION YOU HELP A CHARITY, IN THIS CASE THE BEST BUDDIES PROGRAM AND YOU GET THE USE OF A LUXURY CAR YEAR AFTER YEAR OUT OF IT, HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A CUE FROM THE KRAFT FAMILY WHICH MANAGE TO DO A LOT OF PHILANTHROPY WITHOUT WORKING FOR PERKS IN EXCHANGE.
THE TV 12, THE HEALTH, NUTRITION HE HAS BEEN HAWKING, THIS IS A BIT GAG-INDUCING.
GO CHIEFS!
RPM I KNOW WHERE JON STANDS ON THIS.
NEXT.
>> MY OPINION IS NOT LIKE JON'S BECAUSE I'M NOT A REAL BOSTON SPORTS FAN.
>> Rooney: WE KNOW MINNESOTA.
>> NO MINNESOTA TEAM IS EVER WORTH MENTIONING BUT IF YOU AREI3 A PATRIOTS FAN I CAN SEE THIS BEING A DILEMMA IF IT WAS THE PATRIOTS PLAYING GUESS BRADY IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP BUT IT ISN'T.
AND I DON'T SEE HOW ANYONE WHO HAS ENJOYED WATCHING HIM BRING MULTIPLE SUPER BOWLS TO NEW ENGLAND COULDN'T WATCH THIS GAME.
THROW IN THE FACT THAT HE'S A CASE STUDY, MEN IN THEIR 40s COULD BE VIGOROUS AND DYNAMIC AND EFFECTIVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS NOT TO LIKE.
THAT WAS A REFERENCE TO MYSELF BY THE WAY.
IT CAME THROUGH.
>> I WAS DRIVING DOWN THE STREET THE OTHER DAY AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT BRADY AND TALKING ABOUT GRONK AND FOR A SPLIT SECOND I THOUGHT THE PATRIOTS WERE IN THE SUPER BOWL AND PERHAPS THEIR COACH WERE NOT PART OF THE TEAM FOR THIS YEAR FOR SOME REASON.
IT'S AMAZING IT FEELS LIKE AN EXTENSION OF THE PATRIOTS IN THE SUPER BOWL.
I'M NOT ONE OF THE HERO WORSHIP PEOPLE FOR TACOMA BRADY.
MY WIFE AND I WENT BACK AND FORTH ON THIS WE HOPE HE LOSES.
I FELT IT WAS THE STORY LINE, THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS SO INTERESTING.
HERE IS THIS GUY WHO AT LEAST SOME PATRIOTS FANS THOUGHT HE HAD FLAMED OUT LAST YEAR, TOO OLD.
NOW HE HAS NEW LIFE.
IS HE GOING TO QUIT AFTER THIS ONE, KEEP GOING?
THERE IS SO MUCH THAT MAKES IT AN INTERESTING STORY.
PATRICK MAHOMES HAS A LIFETIME TO GET KNOWN BUT NOW, IT IS HERO WORSHIP.
>> I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU GUYS.
I'M DEEPLY DEEPLY AMBIVALENT ABOUT SPORTS.
I'M PLAYING.
I'M NOT SURE I'M GOING TO NAME WHICH TEAMS ARE PLAYING, I'M IN IT FOR THE COMMERCIALS.
THE HYPE ABOUT DO YOU LIKE TOM BRADY OR NOT, I DON'T GET IT, YOU WATCH SOMEONE WHO IS GOOD AT THE SPORT PLAY THE SPORT.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M WATCHING AN EX BOYFRIEND OR GIRLFRIEND OR I FEEL BETRAYED ABOUT HIM LEAVING, IT'S A SPORT.
JUST ENJOY THE GAME.
>> Rooney: I THINK YOU'RE A MINORITY ON THIS ONE.
>> PROBABLY.
>> Rooney: EVEN IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW SPORTS, THIS ONE HAS CAPTURED, IT IS A STORY LINE, WHAT I'M SAYING, IT'S SEEPED INTO NEWS COVERAGE, SEEPED INTO ALL OF SPORTS COVERAGE, SPORTS RADIO.
EVERYBODY IS JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE STORY LINE.
IT'S AILÑ AND JON -- >> I DON'T GET IT.
IT'S EVERYWHERE.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY EVERYWHERE.
I JUST DON'T GET IT.
>> IT'S THE BRADY STORY LINE.
>> ALSO HAVING BRADY AND MAHOMES PLAYING AGAINST EACH OTHER BECAUSE MAHOMES I'M NOT THE BIGGEST FOOTBALL FAN PERIOD, BUT MAHOMES IS A PLEASURE TO WATCH, BRADY, ONE GENERATION, ANOTHER GENERATION SQUARING OFF, I HEARD A TWEET FROM SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T WANT TO ROOT FOR BRADY, THE RATS ARE THE FIRST ONES TO DESERT THE SHIP.
>> Rooney: IT'S THE STORY LINE THAT'S GOOD.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S A GREAT STORY LINE.
I WOULD SAY WE'RE BOSTONIANS, WE'RE NEW ENGLANDERS, WE DON'T JUST ENJOY THE GAME.
>> AND LYLAH, BECAUSE LYLAH DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS IN THE SUPER BOWL, ONE WAS THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
AND -- AND KANSAS CITY CHIEFS.
>> Rooney: MOVING ON TO OUR RANTS AND RAVES AND WE'LL START WITH YOU DAN.
>> I HAVE A RAVE FOR BOB SELLERS, HE'S AN ANCHOR AT NEWS MAX, YES THAT NEWS MAX.
HE HAD THE CEO OF MY PILLOW, MIKE PLINDELL TO TALK ABOUT HIS BAN FROM TWITTER.
THEN THE INTERVIEW WENT SOUTH WHEN HE BROUGHT UP ALL THE ELECTION CONSPIRACIES, TAKE A LISTEN.
>> I'M REVIEWING ALL THE EVIDENCE ON FRIDAY OF ALL THE ELECTION FRAUD WITH THESE MACHINES.
>> CAN I ASK OUR PRODUCERS, CAN WE GET OUT OF HERE, PLEASE?
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO KEEP GOING OVER THIS.
WE AT NEWS MAX HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO VERIFY ANY OF THOSE ALLEGATIONS.
>> MAJOR, YOU'RE MY-- HOLD ON, EVERYBODY.
HOLD ON A SECOND.
MIKE.
MIKE-- HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
>> THIS WENT ON NOR A LODGER PERIOD THAN JUST THAT ONE CLIP.
BUT KUDOS TO SELLERS, WHETHER IT WAS THE FACT OF THESE LAWSUITS, THIS SENSE THAT THEY WOULD BE SUED OR WHETHER IT WAS DRIVEN BY JUST GENERAL PUSH BACK BY AN ANCHOR WHO WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AUDIENCE DIDN'T GET SOMETHING WRONG FROM THEIR GUEST.
I THINK IT WAS A GOOD JOB OF HIM NOT ALLOWING LINDELL TO SPOUT ALL OF THESE CONSPIRACY THEORIES, SHUTTING HIM DOWN.
>> Rooney: WITH AN EMPTY SEETHE IN THE MIDDLE, BETWEEN THE TWO, IT WAS GREAT.
JON.
>> RUDY GIULIANI HAS A REGULAR ARE SHOW ON MSNBC I THINK.
BEFORE THEY WENT ON THE AIR, BEFORE THEY OPENED HIS MIC, MANAGEMENTS PROVIDED A DISCLAIMER.
GIVE YOU A SENSE OF ABOUT FPS >> GIVES YOU A SENSE OF HOW FAR THIS OF FREE SPEECH THING HAS GONE AND HOW THEY FRIGHTEN EVERYBODY.
I MEAN, WE'RE IN AMERICA.
WE'RE NOT IN EAST GERMANY.
WE GOT TO WARN YOU ABOUT ME.
>> HEY, I FLUBBED THE SETUP.
THE DISHAIMER WAS THE CLASSIC ONE YOU'VE ALL HEARD FOR A MILLION YEARS.
THE COMMENTS EXPRESSED ON THIS NIGHT'S PROGRAM ARE NOT OF THE MANAGEMENT, BLAH BLAH BLAH.
THAT WAS GIULIANI'S REACTION.
HE COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
THEY'RE CENSORING ME, CANCELLING ME.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
THIS GUY'S BEEN RAVING HIMSELF INTO THE MIDDLE OF MAJOR LAWSUITS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND HE'S UPSET BECAUSE MANAGEMENT RUNS THE CLASSIC DISCLAIMER?
WHAT A SNOW FLAKE.
>> Rooney: YOU KNOW WHAT?
THEY WOULDN'T DO IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
WHY DON'T THEY DO IT TO RUSH LIMBAUGH OR SOMETHING?
>> MAYBE SOMEWHERE THEY WILL.
IT'S THE FEAR OF LITIGATION.
SAME AS WITH MIKE LINDELL.
THE PAY TO SHOW, THREE HOUR DOCUMENTARY, SHOWING THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN AND ONE AMERICAN NEWS HAS THIS ENORMOUS IS DISCLAIMER BEFORE IT.
>> Rooney: IT'S OUT TODAY.
ADAM WHAT HAVE YOU GOT?
>> I HAVE A RAVE FOR A PHOTO ESSAY THAT RAN IN THE NEW YORK TIMES LAST WEEK WITH LINDSAY ADARIO WHO SPENT SOME TIME IN LONDON LOOKING AT THE TOLL THAT COVID WAS TAKING IN THAT CITY.
LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO STAY HEALTHY AND HAVE THEIR LOVED ONES STAY HEALTHY, I HAVE BECOME INURED TO THE STEADY DRUM BEAT, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CULTS WE TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
I.T.
DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF CUTTING THROUGH MY OWN INCREASING DISINTEREST, ONCE AGAIN IF THERE IS A STORY THAT IS REALLY, REALLY POWERFUL A STILL PHOTO COULD GRAB YOUR ATTENTION IN A WAY THE BEST TV RADIO REPORTING CAN'T.
>> Rooney: IT WAS VERY GOOD, I SAW THAT TOO.
LYLAH.
>> I HAVE A COMBO RANT AND RAVE TODAY AND THE RANT IS FOR ALL OF THE BREATHLESS COVERAGE AND FAUX OUTRAGE OVER TRUMP'S RESIGNATION FROM THE SCREEN ACTOR'S GUILD.
HE SUBMITTED A LETTER THAT WAS EXTREMELY, CLASSIC TRUMP.
MAYBE WE'VE MISSEDÑi HIM ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THERE HAVEN'T BEEN MANY GAFFS OR OUTRAGEOUS COMMENTS, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH COVERAGE OVER IT.
AND IT WAS SO CRAZY AND PEOPLE WERE UPSET THAT HE SIGNED IT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND THEY WERE UPSET BY THE PRESIDENTIAL LOOKING SEAL ON IT AND ON AND ON AND ON.
MY RAVE IS FOR THE SCREEN ACTORS GUILD WHO RESPONDED WITH A VERY SIMPLE STATEMENT.
THANK YOU.
THAT WAS IT.Ñi >> Rooney: THAT IS GOOD.
ALL RIGHT.
WELL FINALLY TONIGHT WE'VE TOUCHED ON THIS IN OUR DISCUSSION TODAY BUT I HAVE A RAVE FOR THE COMPANY SMART MADDOX.
THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE VOTING MACHINES THAT CAME UNDER FIRE RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION LARGELY BY PEOPLE ON FOX NEWS, RUDY GIULIANI, LOU DOBBS AND PARTICULARLY MARIA BARDARONO, SEEN HER WITH HER TIN FOIL HAT, HOW SMART MATTICS, HAD SWITCHED REPUBLICAN VOTES TO DEMOCRATIC AND THEY HAD ALL THESE CONSPIRACY THEORIES HOW IT WORKED.
THE LAWSUIT WAS FOR 2.7 BILLION, CLASSIC DEFAMATION, THE LAWSUIT HAS TEETH, NOT ONE OF THESE NUISANCE LAWSUITS, THAT FOX NEWS IS IN BIG BIG TROUBLE.
TWO OF THEIR SHOWS, LOU DOBBS AND MARIA BARDAROMO DID ISSUE SOME SORT OF FAUX BACKTRACKING SORT OF TRYING TO SAY WE DIDN'T MEAN IT BUT THEY SAY IT'S GOOD ENOUGH AND THEY WENT AHEAD AND FILED THIS 270 PAGE LAWSUIT THIS WEEK WHICH AS I SAID HAS BEEN LOOKED AT AND CEMENTS TO HAVE SOME LEGS TO IT.
GOOD FOR SMARTMATICS.
ALL RIGHT, THAT IS IT FOR OUR SHOW.
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I'M EMILY ROONEY.
THANKS FOR WATCHING.
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