>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE NINE NETWORK.

>>> HEY, WELCOME TO ANOTHER EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU ABOARD AND IT MAY BE GRAY AND DISMAL AND DARK OUTSIDE, BUT LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE.

THE RAMS LOST IN THE SUPER BOWL AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT AS WE ALSO THANK OUR FRIENDS AT THE GATESWORTH FOR MAKING THIS PROGRAM POSSIBLE AS YOU DO WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT.

LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS FOR THIS EPISODE.

STARTING WITH AMY MARXKORS FROM KMOX TOTAL INFORMATION AM OVERTIME AND THE BLUES BROADCAST, SITTING IN FOR WENDY SAYING THE DAY OFF.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> WE HAVE BILL McCLELLAN BACK FROM HIS TWO-WEEK VACATION IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE WORLTZ.

HE'S WITH THE ST.

LOUIS POST-DISPATCH AND ONE OF OUR FOUNDERS.

ANOTHER FOUNDER, RAY HARTMANN, NOW WITH THE RIVERFRONT TIMES, HESS INAUGURAL OR REBORN COLUMN IN THIS WEEK'S EDITION AND THE ONE AND ONLY ALVIN REID AND WE'LL START WITH YOU, BILL.

I HOPE YOU HAD A GOOD TIME OFF OVERALL.

>> I DID.

I SPONGED OFF FRIEND'S IN FLORIDA, LIVED IN OTHER PEOPLE'S HOMES.

>> THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT.

MAYBE SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE MEMBERS OF CIVIC PROGRESS OR RCGA -- >> NO.

>> NOT SURPRISING YOU WEREN'T INVITED AFTER SOME OF YOUR COLUMNS AFTER THE 30 YEARS, BUT CIVIC PROGRESS AND THE RCGA DID ENDORSE THE BETTER TOGETHER PLAN.

THAT'S THE PLAN, OF COURSE, TO MERGE THE CITY AND COUNTY AND CREATE ONE BIG 1.3-PERSON END SIT.

DO YOU THINK THAT -- ENTITY.

DO YOU THINK THE ENDORSEMENT OF THOSE TWO BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS HOLDS ANY SWAY?

>> MAYBE.

RCGA, NO, I'M AFRAID THEY'RE KIND OF USELESS, BUT CIVIC PROGRESS, MAYBE IT'S WISHFUL THINKING, BUT A REASON ALWAYS DOES BETTER IF ITS POLITICAL LEADERS AND CORPORATE LEADERS WORK TOGETHER, AND WHILE I DON'T LIKE THIS BETTER TOGETHER PLAN, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF OUT-STATE PEOPLE DICTATE TG WHAT PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY DO, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING THAT CIVIC PROGRESS IS GETTING INVOLVED AND I LIKE TO THINK THAT THEY WILL HAVE SOME POSITIVE INPUT.

>> WELL, I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING AS MUCH FORCE AS POSSIBLE TO GET PEOPLE TO JUST BACK AWAY AND CURTAIL.

I AGREE WITH YOU 100%, ESPECIALLY AFTER WORKING THRT LIMITED TIME I DID AFTER RCGA.

>> THOSE WERE THE GLORY YEARS.

>> WHEN WE HAD FORTUNE TELLERS AND ALL KIND OF PEOPLE RUNNING THROUGH THERE, BUT WITH CIVIC PROGRESS, WHEN ALL THEREFORE STARTED, EVERYBODY HAS TO BE ON BOARD AND EITHER GET IN LINE OR GET OUT OF THE WAY AND NOBODY WANTS TO GET OUT OF THE WAY, BUT I DO BELIEVE ULTIMATELY THERE WILL BE A PRICE TO BE PAID FOR THIS.

I THINK IT WILL LOSE STATEWIDE AND THEN ALL OF THESE COMPANIES AND EVERYBODY ELSE WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN THEMSELVES AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DAY IN 2020.

>> I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS TO BAND TOGETHER AND SAY WE WANT ONE GOVERNMENT.

I MEAN, I'M NOT FOR THE BETTER TOGETHER PLAN AS IT'S PROPOSED PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE STATEWIDE VOTE, WHICH YOU KNOW, SEEMS TO ME TO BE UNDEMOCRATIC, BUT FIRP A BUSINESS AND I WAS GSH IF I WERE A BUSINESS AND I WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEAL WITH ONE GOVERNMENT AS OPPOSED TO A LOT OF THEM, IT'S NOT LIKE THE BETTER TOGETHER PLAN HAS SAID THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY TAX INCENTIVES OR TAX INCREMENT FINANCING OR ABATEMENTS.

THE COMPANIES CAN STILL GET CERTAIN BREAKS AND I THINK IT WOULD BE -- IF I WAS RUNNING A LARGE CORPORATION, I WOULD SAY THIS PLAN MAKES SENSE FOR ME.

>> IT IS IF YOU'RE NOT IN RETAIL OR ANY OF THOSE BECAUSE BASICALLY I'M SAYING LIKE YOU ARE BASICALLY TELLING THE PLACE WHERE THE PEOPLE SPEND THE MOST MONEY WITH US, WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO OFFEND EVERYBODY -- NOT EVERYBODY, BUT 80%, I THINK, OF THE PEOPLE IN ST.

LOUIS COUNTY.

THERE WILL BE SOME REPERCUSSIONS TO THIS.

>> I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I JUST -- I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE REPERCUSSIONS TO CIVIC PROGRESS.

I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF A GIVEN.

I WOULD HAVE BEEN SHOCKED IF CIVIC PROGRESS -- IT'S NOT CALLED THE RCG ANYWHERE.

>> THEY JUST CHANGED THE WORD COMMERCE -- >> WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLING IT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT MY -- I WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY SURPRISED IF CIVIC PROGRESS HADN'T BEEN ON BOARD WITH THIS.

I THINK THAT -- I AGREE WITH ALVIN OR MAYBE WE DISAGREE ABOUT THE -- I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY TO PREDICT-OUT REST OF MISSOURI IS DID GO TO VOTE.

FOR EVERY PERSON LIVING IN ST.

LOUIS COUNTY, THERE ARE ALMOST FIVE WHO LIVE IN NEITHER THE CITY NOR THE COUNTY AND THIS WILL HAVE THAT NO EXACT ON THEM.

I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY WHETHER THE ALVIN REID MESSAGE IS GOING TO RESONATE AROUND MISSOURI AND PART OF THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE'S GOING TO BE MONEY SPENT IN OPPOSITION, DIRECT MONEY, BECAUSE IF THERE ISN'T -- MY POINT IS I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME.

>> HOW ABOUT THIS, ALVIN REID?

MAYOR LYDA KREWSON SAID SHE INSISTED THAT -- ACTUALLY, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT SHE SAID THIS WEEK.

NUMBER ONE, ALONG WITH STEVE STENGER, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, THE MAYOR OF ST.

LOUIS SAID THAT THERE WILL BE, AS A RESULT OF BETTER TOGETHER, NO JOBS LOST AMONG COUNTY EMPLOYEES OR CITY EMPLOYEES, AND SHE ALSO SAID APPARENTLY AT A PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY AT CITY HALL THAT SHE INSISTED THAT THE NEW GOVERNMENT BE BASED IN DOWNTOWN ST.

LOUIS AND THAT WAS ONE OF HER NON NONNEGOTIAB NONNEGOTIABLES.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?

>> THAT IS THE BIG BEST BUNCH OF FOLDEROL IN THE WORLD AND A BRILLIANT MAN WHO JUST STARTED WRITING A COLUMN AGAIN FOR THE RIVERFRONT TIMES POINTED OUT THE -- WHAT ARE WE, TENTH LARGEST CITY IN AMERICA?

>> THAT WON'T BE TRUE.

>> IF YOU GO FOR THE LIE, GO FOR THE BIG LIE.

LYDA KREWSON AND STEVE STENGER SAID NO ONE WILL LOSE THEIR JOB, THEN WHAT'S THE POINT OF MERGING?

THAT'S A LIE.

WHO BELIEVES THAT LYDA KREWSON WOULD SAY I WON'T BE FOR THIS AT ALL UNLESS IT'S DOWNTOWN.

GIVE ME A BREAK.

>> LET ME DEFEND HER ON THIS.

FIRST OF ALL, SHE MAY HAVE SAID THAT AND THE LEADERS MIGHT LOOK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY DOING THIS, THE BETTER TOGETHER PEOPLE, WE'RE REALLY DOING THIS TO SAVE THE CITY, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL KEEP THE CITY GOVERNMENT IN THE CITY AND AS FAR AS THE JOB LOSS, WHILE IT SEEMS SILLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ARGUING THAT THERE'S ENOUGH ATTRITION OVER THE YEARS THAT THEY CAN SAVE MONEY THAT WAY.

I MEAN -- >> HERE'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, THOUGH.

RIGHT NOW I ASSUME THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS A SECRETARY AND I ASSUME THE MAYOR HAS A SECRETARY.

THEY JUST SAID THIS WEEK IF THEY HAVE ONE GOVERNMENT, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TWO SECRETARIES EVEN THOUGH THERE'S ONE MAYOR AND NO MORE COUNTY EXECUTIVE.

NO ONE LOSES A JOB.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DON'T EXPERIENCE JOB LOSS WHILE ELIMINATING DUPLICATED SERVICES.

ISN'T THAT THE PURPOSE OF IT?

THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE AND BE MORE EFFICIENT AND MORE ECONOMIC, SO THAT PART SEEMS SKETCHY TO ME.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CITY-COUNTY MERGER, BUT I DON'T LIKE THAT THIS BETTER TOGETHER PLAN WREAKS OF AN ELITIST WE KNOW BETTER THAN YOU, SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE POWER OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE IT DIRECTLY EFFECTS, THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY, THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY, JUST TRUST US, AND THAT'S WHY IT GETS ZECHY WITH THE BUSINESS, ARE WE GOING TO TELL OUR CUSTOMER AND CLIENT BASE THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU.

>> AND GET UNDER AN UMBRELLA BECAUSE THERE'S A SQUADRON OF PIGS FLYING OVERHEAD IF ANY OF THIS IS TRUE.

>> THE CITY-COUNTY MERGER, THERE WOULD BE SAVINGS IF THE CITY RE-ENTER THE COUNTY AND THE CITY STOPPED BEING A COUNTY.

THE COUNTY OFFICE, YOU JUST HAVE ONE SET OF COUNTY OFFICES AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF OUR ARGUMENTS, THOEFRS US THAT FAVOR THE MERGER, FOR DECADES, SO YOU COULD ELIMINATE COUNTY OFFICES.

BUT I THINK ALVIN IS RIGHT THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE BIG SAVINGS.

>> I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO GET A FEW PHONE CALLS ON THAT ON YOUR TURN, RAY, YOU AND I LATER TODAY.

AMY, THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AND THERE'S, I GUESS A STORY IN TODAY OR YESTERDAY'S PAPER ABOUT A BILL IN THE LEGISLATURE, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN JEFF CITY, WHICH WOULD CHANGE THE CURRENT LAW REGARDING ABORTION NOTIFICATION.

NOW IF A GIRL OR A WOMAN 18 OR UNDER, MAYBE IT'S UNDER 18, IS SEEKING AN ABORTION, ONE PARENT HAS TO BE NOTIFIED, BUT NOW THIS LEGISLATION WOULD SAY THAT TWO HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED.

DO YOU THINK THAT THE LAW SHOULD BE CHANGED SO THAT, LET'S SAY, A 16-YEAR-OLD GIRL SEEKING A ABORTION SHOULD HAVE TO NOTIFY BOTH HER MOM AND HER BAD, -- BAD, OR 2019, BOTH PARENTS?

>> YES, I'M FOR IT.

I'M ALSO GOING TO BE TRANSPARENT THAT I'M PRO LIFE.

IT'S KEY STHAPES NOT THE CONSENT OF BOTH PARENTS IT'S IT A NOTIFICATION OF THAT SECOND PARENT AND ALSO THERE'S AN EXEMPTION IF THAT PARENT HAS A SEXUAL ABUSE RECORD OR HAS BEEN BUSSEY, IT IT'S NOT A GOOD SITUATION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THAT PARENT, BUT WHAT IT IS, IT'S BUYING TIME.

20 YEARS AGO, YOU HAD PEOPLE PETITIONING FOR A 24-HOUR WAIT PERIOD FOR ABORTION IN MISSOURI AND NOW THERE'S A 72-HOUR WAIT PERIOD BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE AN ABORTION IN MISSOURI AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE PUTTING FORTH LEGISLATION THAT YOU NEED TO TELL THE WOMAN OF THE RISKS, EITHER VERBALLY OR RISK, THAT SHE CAN FEEL PAIN IF THE ABORTION IS HAPPENING AFTER 22 WEEKS.

THAT IS IN MISSOURI LAW, I BELIEVE ONLY 13 STATES HAVE THAT.

IT'S THESE LITTLE INCREMENTAL STEPS AND THE PRO LIFE MOVEMENT, WHICH I'M PART OF IN THE SENSE OF I AM PRO LIFE, I AGREE WITH THAT AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO REALLY WITH THE PARENTS AND THE CONSENT.

IT'S BUYING TIME FOR PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT THINGS BEFORE THEY TAKE THE LIFE OF AN UNBORN CHILD.

>> AND I'M PRO CHOICE AND I ACTUALLY ADMIRE YOUR CANDOR SO IT BECAUSE USUALLY THAT ISN'T AS -- PEOPLE AREN'T AS CANDID ABOUT WHY WE'RE DOING IT, WHICH IN THIS CASE, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO DISAGREE WITH REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM.

I THINK IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A -- I WOULD ARGUE AN UNNECESSARY AND PROBABLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL HURDLE TO A YOUNG GIRL.

YOU CAN IMAGINE THE PAIN AND THE STRESS AND THE DIFFICULTY OF A YOUNG KID UNDER 18 WHO HAS MADE A DECISION NOT TO BEAR A CHILD AND I DON'T PERSONALLY BELIEVE IT'S THAT THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE OF MISSOURI OR ANY OTHER STATE TO DICTATE THAT CHOICE FOR A GIRL OR A WOMAN, AND SO I'M OPPOSED TO THAT, BUT -- >> AND NORMALLY I WOULD BE AGAINST LESS GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION, BUT THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THE CONSENT.

IT'S A BATTLE OF IDEOLOGIES.

I THINK IF I BELIEVE IT'S AN UNBORN CHILD AS BABY, I'M GOING TO DO WHAT TOPIC SAVE THAT CHILD, WHERE IT'S LESS ABOUT A CONSENT FORM AND MORE WHAT CAN WE DO TO SAVE LIVES.

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE AN UNBORN CHILD HAS THE RIGHT TO LIFE, THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING -- YOU'RE GOING TO BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONSENT AND THE GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT.

>> I THINK A YOUNG WOMAN DOESN'T NEED SOMEBODY TO TELL HER THAT 48 HOURS ISN'T ENOUGH OR 96 OR JUMP THROUGH MORE HOOPS.

I MEAN, AS LONG AS IT'S LEGAL AND I'M GLAD THAT IT IS, I THINK WOMEN SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET AN ABORTION WITHOUT NEW HURDLES BEING THROWN UP HITHER AND YON JUST TO SLOW THEM UP.

>> AND IF I DON'T WANT TO TELL ONE OF MY PARENTS BECAUSE ONE OF MY PARENTS HAS NEVER LEGALLY BEEN CHARGED WITH A CRIME OR TAKEN OUT OR WHATEVER, BUT MY PARENTS ARE SEPARATE AND THERE ARE REASONS THEY ARE SEPARATE, I'M GOING TO TELL THE ONE THAT WON'T LOSE THEIR MIND OVER THIS, I THINK THAT'S PERFECTLY RIGHT AND IT'S AN INVASION OF PRIVACY, QUITE FRANKLY, TO MAKE SOMEONE DO OTHERWISE.

>> PUT YOU LOOK AT AN ABORTION SIMPLY AS A SURGERY, THERE'S NO OTHER SURGERY I WOULD GO IN AND SAY I WOULD LIKE A NOSE JOB AND I WANT IT RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THE DOCTOR TELLING ME ABOUT THE PROCEDURE OR TELLING ME ABOUT RISKS.

>> BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL BOTH YOUR PARENTS.

>> BUT THIS IS GOING ON -- THIS IS MORE THAN JUST AN ELECTIVE SURGERY, SO EVEN IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT ABORTIONS COMPARED TO A COMPLETE COSMOLOGICAL SURGERY -- EXCUSE ME, A COSMETOLOGY SURGERY, THEN IT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU GO IN AND HAVE DONE RIGHT AWAY AND ABORTIONS ARE EASIER TO GET NOW THAN ELECTIVE SURGERY.

>> TO ME, IT'S THE ULTIMATE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ISSUE AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I THINK IN THIS CASE, DIFFERENT RELIGIONS HAVE A DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF THE BEGINNING OF LIFE.

I DON'T REALLY WANT TO DEBATE THAT OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT I THINK THE LAST PARTY THAT OUGHT TO BE DETERMINING THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT, THAT IN FACT IT'S A RELIGIOUS DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AS TO WHEN -- >> RAY, LET ME ASK YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A RELIGIOUS ISSUE, IT MIGHT BE, BUT CERTAINLY A PUBLIC SAFETY ONE.

SENATOR JAMILAH NASHEED WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A RED FLAG STATUTE AND THAT MEANS IF YOU ARE RELATED TO SOMEBODY OR KNOW SOMEBODY THAT HAS A MENTAL ILLNESS OR SEEMS TO HAVE SOME PROBLEM, AND IT SURE SEEMS WITH HIS MOTHER ON THE STAND TODAY, THORNTON FORCESTON, THE MAN WHO KILLED OFFICER BLAKE SHELTON, HE WAS STILL FIRING AMMUNITION AND FIREARMS AND NO ONE STOPPED HIM, THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME LAW THAT YOU NOTIFY THE SHERIFF OR POLICE OFFICER AND YOU TELL HIM THIS GUY IS A LITTLE OFF AND WE HAVE TO TAKE AWAY HIS FIREARM PERMIT.

ACTUALLY, NO PERMIT IN THE STATE, JUST TAKE AWAY OF HIS FIREARM.

WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR OF THAT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

GOOD FOR HER.

THERE'S SO MUCH LIP SERVICE GIVEN, WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT GUNS AFTER EVERY MASS SHOOTING.

IF YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THE CASE OF THIS PERSON, IF PEOPLE KNOW AND THERE'S A PROCESS, IT'S JUDICIAL.

NOT THAT YOU JUST CAN TAKE AWAY SOMEBODY'S GUNS WILLY-NILLY, BUT IF YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS YOU DO NOW TO GET A RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST SOMEBODY, BY ALL MEANS, FAMILY MEMBERS CONCERNED ABOUT SOMEBODY HAVING THE MENTAL FITNESS TO HAVE A FIREARM, ABSOLUTELY.

AND YEAH, THE SECOND AMENDMENT PEOPLE CAN SAY YOU'RE WATERING IT DOWN, BUT THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SAY THAT'S WATERING IT DOWN, I CHALLENGE THEM TO TELL ME WHAT AMENDMENT DOESN'T HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRST AMENDMENT, YOU CAN'T THREATEN TO KILL SOMEBODY, SO YES, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

>> I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA BECAUSE I DON'T -- I DON'T LIKE THIS PEOPLE GET TO DECIDE WHO'S THIS OR WHO'S THAT.

THE GUY, YOU KNOW, WHO SHOT THE POLICE OFFICER, PERSONALLY I THINK HE SHOULD GET FIRST DEGREE MURDER, THE DEATH PENALTY IF IT WAS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

SOMEBODY COULD DECIDE, WELL, HE WAS THIS OR HE WAS THAT, SO LET'S GO TAKE HIS GUN, BUT THE NEXT GUY OR GAL IS EVEN CRAZIER, AND THEY GOT A LAWYER AND THEY'RE NOT POOR OR WHATEVER.

SO THEY GET TO KEEP THEIR GUN, SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHOSE GUN GETS TAKEN AND WHOSE DOESN'T AND WHAT YOU FIND OUT IS NOBODY GOT THE GUNS TAKEN IN THIS PART OF TOWN AND EVERYBODY GOT THEM IN -- >> WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHO GETS A RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST SOMEBODY?

WE HAVE A PROCESS -- >> A JUDGE DOES.

>> THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A RESTRAINING ORDER.

>> IF YOU GO THROUGH RESTRAINING ORDERS, I GUARANTEE YOU MOST RESTRAINING ORDERS ARE IN PLACES THAT HAVE LOWER ECONOMIC STANDARDS THAN ANOTHER ONE.

>> THAT MIGHT BE TRUE, BUT ALVIN, IT IS TRUE PRIOR TO SWEFR IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI, YOU HAD TO GO TO THE POLICE CHIEF TO GET PERMISSION TO BUY CERTAIN FIREARMS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANYMORE AND JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY TOOK A LOOK AT THE STATE AND SAID OUR VIOLENCE WENT UP IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT.

I THINK IT'S GOOD IF THERE'S SOMEONE YOU TRUST, HOPEFULLY WE TRUST OUR POLICE CHIEF OR POLICE OFFICERS, SOMEBODY TO SAY THIS GUY SHOULD NOT BE BUYING AM MONTH, HE SHOULD NOT BE BUYING FIREARMS WITH ALL DUE RESPECTS.

>> I TRUST THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM.

WHAT I DON'T TRUST IS THIS KIND OF LIKE OVERREACH THAT CAN DECIDE WHO DOES AND WHO DOESN'T GET TO HAVE A GUN.

AND I HATE GUNS.

I WISH NOBODY HAD A GUN, BUT IT IS A REALITY THAT, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, AND IT'S NOT A CONSERVATIVE OR A LIBERAL ISSUE.

>> YEAH, IT IS.

>> IT'S NOT.

>> IT'S TOTALLY.

>> I DON'T THINK IT EITHER, BUT I THINK RAY HAS THE POINT THAT IF A JUDGE HEARS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO ISSUE A RESTRAINING ORDER, THAT OUGHT TO BE OF CONCERN THAT THAT PERSON WHO THEY'RE SEEKING A RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST HAS A WEAPON.

IF I WAS SEEKING A RESTRAINING ORDER, I'D LIKE THE JUDGE TO SAY AS LONG AS THERE GUY IS AUNZ RESTRAINING ORDER, I DON'T WANT HIM CARRYING.

>> YOU GO TO HIS HOUSE AND YOU TAKE THE GUNS OUT OF HIS HOUSE?

>> ADMITTEDLY, ALVIN, IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO DO.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT.

>> ALVIN, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE RAMS.

THEY DID LOSE AND I FOR ONE HAPPENED TO BE HAPPY THAT THE RAMS LOST.

I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE RAMS, BUT IT WOULD HAVE PAINED ME TO SEE STAN KROENKE ACCEPTING THE SUPER BOWL TROPHY, THE LOMBARDI TROPHY, SO THERE YOU HAVE IT.

OVERALL, THOUGH, HOW DO YOU THINK ST.

LOUIS HAS REACTED AND DISPLAYED ITSELF IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH OUR FORMER NFL FRANCHISE NOW IN THE SUPER BOWL?

>> WELL, I TELL YOU WHAT, I RAISE MY GLASS TO THOSE OF WHO HAD THE SUPER BOWL SQUARE 3-3 BECAUSE AT 9:30, WOE WE WON A LOT OF MONEY.

IT WAS EMBARRASSING.

IT WAS HORRIBLE.

>> WHAT WAS HORRIBLE?

>> HOW ST.

LOUIS REACTED THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

THIS PETTY, WE WANT YOU TO LOSE AND WE HATE YOU AND THERE'S GUYS AND KOERCHES ON THE TEAM THAT -- COACHES ON THE TEAM THAT NEVER PLAYED IN ST.

LOUIS, NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO DO IN ST.

LOUIS AND THEY WERE OUT THERE HATING ON THEM AND WE SOUNDED CHILDISH AND LIKE LOSERS.

FROM THE MEDIA TO THE GENERAL -- NOT GENERAL SPORTS FAN, BUT I JUST GOT SICK OF IT AND IT WAS EMBARRASSING.

THEY WENT TO THE GOAL, THEY LOST.

STAN KROENKE MADE A LOT OF MONEY.

HE BAD MOUTHED US HIS WAY OUT OF TOWN AND MEANWHILE, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THE COUNTY AND CITY TOGETHER BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BADMOUTHING US AS THEY GOT OUT OF TOWN.

GET OVER IT, ST.

LOUIS, QUICKLY, PLEASE.

>> I WAS OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE WHOLE POINT OF SPORTS IS TO OVERREACT ABOUT THINGS THAT DON'T MATTER.

IT'S CATHARSIS, THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.

YOU TWEET, YOU GET WORKED UP.

NOBODY DIES.

IT'S NOT A BIG BIPARTISAN ISSUE.

WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND HATE THE SAME PEOPLE OR LOVE THE SAME PEOPLE AND IT IS OVER THE TOP, BUT THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF A SPORTS FAN.

FAN IS SHORT FOR FANATIC T RIGHT, SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CRAZY PEOPLE.

>> THAT'S VERY RATIONAL.

YOU MUST NOT FOLLOW SPORTS.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

I WAS PERSONALLY ROOTING FOR THE PATRIOTS, BUT I MEAN, I -- >> WHY?

>> BECAUSE I ACTUALLY BELIEVE -- >> TOM BRADY IS PHENOMENAL.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, AS MUCH AS PEOPLE HATE ON THE PATRIOTS, AND I GOT SOME FRIENDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MAD AT ME FOR SAYING, THIS I ACTUALLY LOVE THE FACT THAT I WAS 17 YEARS AGO IN NEW ORLEANS WATCHING WITH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF INDIGNANTLY THAT THERE'S NO WAY THIS ROOKIE QUARTERBACK THAT DIDN'T HAVE VERY GOOD NUMBERS IS GOING TO BEAT OUR GREATEST SHOW ON TURF, AND WE LOST BY A FIELD GOAL TO THE PATRIOTS 17 YEARS AGO ALMOST TO THE DAY, AND -- I THINK I WAS 17 YEARS AGO, WASN'T IT?

>> JUST ABOUT.

>> AND WE HAD OUR RUN WITH THE RAMS.

I'M WITH ALVIN AS FAR AS FOLKS, WE HAD 20 YEARS.

I LIKE TO THINK WE BORROWED THEM FROM L.A.

AND RETURNED THEM AS OPPOSED TO -- BECAUSE WE DID ACTUALLY PAY MONEY TO GET THEM TO LEAVE AND THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.

>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE THE KANSAS CITY TIMES -- THE KANSAS CITY STAR?

>> STAR.

>> STAR HAD AN EDITORIAL, BILL THAT, SAID THE CHIEFS THERE SHOULD NOT BECOME MISSOURI'S TEAM, BUT THERE'S A LOCAL MEMBER OF THE KANSAS CITY CITY COUNCIL, THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN, WHO SAID THE CHIEFS SHOULD BE MISSOURI'S TEAM AND MAYBE SOME HAVE EVEN SUGGESTED THEY PLAY A GAME ONCE A YEAR OR SO AS OPPOSED TO PLAYING IN MEXICO CITY OR LONDON, WHY NOT PLAY IN ST.

LOUIS?

SO THE BOSTON PATRIOTS BECAME THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS.

HOW ABOUT THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS BECOMING THE MISSOURI CHIEFS?

>> I THINK WHEN AMY SAID THAT SPORTS IS ABOUT A LOT OF SILLINESS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS.

ST.

LOUIS, WHETHER WE'RE THE TENTH LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY OR WHETHER WE'RE THE 31st, WE DON'T HAVE A FOOTBALL TEAM, AND TO PRETEND THAT, WELL, ACTUALLY WE DO BUT IT'S BASED IN KANSAS CITY MAKES NO SENSE.

CALLING IT THE MISSOURI CHIEFS, I THINK IT'S CRAZY.

>> BUT STILL, IF THEY DO THAT, AMY COULD BE WORKING FOR THE MISSOURI BLUES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE AN NHL TEAM.

IT'S NONSENSE.

>> WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT.

>> IT'S NONSENSE.

>> YOU HAVE A STATE WITH TWO LARGE METROPOLITAN AREAS, ONE DOESN'T HAVE AN NFL TEAM AND THE OR DOES, WHY NOT JUST SPREAD THE LOVE AND HAVE LARGE -- >> LIKE YOU SAID, ONE HAS IT AND ONE DOESN'T.

>> AND WE HAD A TEAM.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE WERE -- >> BUT WE DON'T HAVE ONE NOW.

WE'RE NFL-LESS.

I'M NOT A BIG NFL FAN, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN THAT WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE CHIEFS PLAY AT THE DOME.

>> I WROTE THIS -- >> IN THE ST.

LOUIS AMERICAN?

>> NO, ACTUALLY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, THE ONE THICK YOU CAN DO, AND NOT EVERY YEAR, BUT HAVE THE CHIEFS PLAY THE RAMS IN AN EXHIBITION GAME IN ST.

LOUIS AND THAT WAY ALL THE ST.

LOUIS PEOPLE WHO NT WHATTED TO BUY A TICKET CAN GO DOWN THERE AND BOO AND ALL THE CHIEFS FANS THAT WANTED TO SEE -- AND THIS IS LIKE THE FIRST GAME WHEN NOBODY -- ANY KIND OF QUALITY WOULD PLAY, JUST THROW SOME RANDOM GAME OUT THERE, THE FIRST EXHIBITION GAME AND THROW ST.

LOUIS A BONE.

THE CHIEFS WOULDN'T CARE.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> BUT AS FAR AS PLAYING A REGULAR SEASON GAME HERE -- >> WHY NOT?

>> IF I OWNED THE CHIEFS, I'D SAY GET REAL.

>> THEY WORK FOR THE CHIEFS.

THE PATRIOTS ARE CERTAINLY SELLING MEMORABILIA AND JERSEYS IN VERMONT AND CONNECTICUT AND NEW HAMPSHIRE AND MAINE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS AND IF YOU OWN THE CHIEFS, THIS WOULD BE TO NO-BRAINER FOR YOU.

>> NO, NO, IT WOULD BE A BRAINER.

>> NO!

>> THE PEOPLE IN KANSAS CITY WOULD BE UPSET.

>> HAVING THE CARDINALS PLAY IN KK -- >> WELL, THEY HAVE A TEAM.

>> I THINK SO IT'S BEYOND ABSURD THAT -- >> REALLY?

>> BUT I ALSO THINK THAT -- AND BY THE WAY, THE ODDS OF MR.

KROENKE'S TEAM COMING HERE ONCE A YEAR NOSTALGICALLY -- >> THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> LIKE HALLEY'S COMMENT COMET, BUT IF I WAS A KANSAS CITY CHIEFS SEASON TICKET HOLDER, IF I COULD BE RELIEVED OF HAVING TO PAY FULL PRICE FOR THAT EXHIBITION GAME, WHICH WE HAD TO PAY AT SEASON TICKET HOLDERS, I WOULD THINK THAT WAS FINE JUST BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS SUCH A WASTE OF MONEY AS IT IS FOR THE BLUES.

>> LET'S GO TO OUR LAST TOPIC AND I WANT TO GO TO YOU ON THIS, AMY, BECAUSE BEN FREDERICKSON WENT WROTE A COLUMN ABOUT VISITING THE MLS AND WE HAVE PEOPLE BEHIND THE EFFORT, BUT BEN FREDERICKSON SAID IT'S TIME FOR OTHER BUSINESSES TO PONY UP AND GET INVOLVED AND SUPPORT THE MLS FRANCHISE.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?

>> I 100% AGREE WITH HIM.

YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY STEP UP.

ENTERPRISE HAS DONE IT, WORLDWIDE TECHNOLOGIES HAS DONE IT, ALL THESE OTHER COMPANIES STEP UP AND TAKE A STAND FOR YOUR CITY.

THEY HAVE THIS PASSIVE MOTION THAT ONCE WE SEE IT WORKS, THEN WE'LL GET INVOLVED.

SOMEBODY HAS TO STEP UP AND SHOW THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT THIS TEAM, THEY WILL SUPPORT THIS TEAM.

>> ONE WORD.

SHAKE DOWN.

THEY WENT TO NEW YORK AND GOT SHOOK DOWN.

YOU HAVE TWO COMPANIES?

THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH?

NO, WE WANT MORE MONEY.

MLS IS NOT A LEAGUE THAT MAKES A LOT OF PROFITS.

THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY BY GETTING NEW TEAMS AND DIVVYING UP THE EXPANSION FEE.

SHAKE DOWN.

IF AIN'T ENOUGH, GO TO SACRAMENT TO OR -- >> THEY ARE AND SOME OTHER PLACES.

>> BUT ONCE WE MERGE, WE'LL BE THE TENTH LARGEST -- >> I AGREE WITH AMY.

I DON'T SEE ANY REASON NOT TO ENCOURAGE -- FOR A SPORTS WRITER WHO LIVES AND DIES WITH THIS -- HE'S NOT CALLING FOR A TAX INCREASE.

IT'S FOR HIM TO ENCOURAGE LOCAL COMPANIES TO BE PART OF THIS.

I DO WORRY -- I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD FOR ST.

LOUIS TO GET THIS, BUT I THINK WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT COMPETITION WITH SACRAMENT TO.

>> I DO TOO.

I HAD AN URBANIST ON TODAY, AND HE SAID IT'S TURNING OUT IN A LOT OF CITIES WE HAVE THE VERY POOR AND VERY RICH AND SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON SPORTS TEAM, BUT NOT SO MUCH ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

HE LOOKS AT THESE VARIOUS CITIES AND SAYS MAYBE THESE COMPANIES SHOULD BE THINKING OF OTHER THINGS BESIDES WHAT'S ON THE COURT OR ON THE FIELD.

JUST A THOUGHT.

LET'S FIND OUT WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK'S PROGRAM.

WE HEARD FROM CAROL OF FENTON WHO WROTE FENTON DISBANDED ITS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IS POLICED BY ST.

LOUIS COUNTY.

IT WOULD BE EASY TO ELIMINATE MANY SMALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

WE LOOK FOR YOUR LETTER.

WRITE TO KETC, 3655 OLIVE STREET, ST.

LOUIS, MISSOURI 63108.

WE LOVE THOSE EMAILS, LETTERS@KETC.ORG AND TWEETS, #DONNYBROOKSTL.

THANKS TO AMY MARXKORS FOR SITTING IN FOR WENDY WIESE.

WE SURE APPRECIATE THAT AND DON'T FORGET, YOU CAN SEE THIS PODCAST ON APPLE, SPOTIFY, GOOGLE PLAY AND TUNE-IN.

REALLY PRAISAPPRECIATE IT, AMY, AND BEST OF LUCK.

HOPE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> AND WE'LL BE READING THOSE TWEETS AND TAKING YOUR PHONE CALLS IN JUST A MOMENT ON YOUR TURN.

RAY HARTMANN AND I WILL BE DOING THAT.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THANKS A LOT, BUT DON'T GO AWAY.

>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE NINE NETWORK.

>> WOW, IT'S A COLD NIGHT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR PHONE CALLS, SO WE GOT SOME HOT TOPICS OUT THERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

THE FOUNDER IS WITH US, OF COURSE, THE ONE AND ONLY RAY HARTMANN, AND IF YOU PICK UP A RIVERFRONT TIMES, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HIM ON THE COVER.

>> OH STOP.

>> THAT'S THE COVER OF THE RIVERFRONT TIMES.

ISN'T THAT SOMETHING?

>> THAT'S JUST LIKE PEOPLE STILL DO HAVE BIRD CAGES, DON'T THEY?

>> NO, CONGRATULATIONS.

IT'S A GREAT COLUMN.

I HOPE EVERYONE CHECKS IT OUT.

>> VERY KIND OF YOU TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU.

LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINES TO CLIFFORD FROM SUNSET HILLS.

WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TONIGHT, CLIFFORD?

>> Caller: GENTLEMEN, FIRST OF ALL, ANOTHER GREAT DISCUSSION TONIGHT AND RAY, WELCOME BACK TO THE RIVERFRONT TIMES.

ON PAGE 7, I LIKED YOUR TITLE, MAGIC NUMBERS, AND THE FACT THAT HOW STUPID DOES BETTER TOGETHER THINK WE ARE.

VERY GOOD BYLINE AS WELL.

I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION AND ABOUT THIS PROPOSED MERGER, IT'S A CATASTROPHE IN THE MAKING.

AS I SEE WHAT THE PROS, SUPER MAYOR MR.

STENGER, THE FIRST LAWSUIT WOULD BE HE WILL BE SERVING TWO YEARS WITHOUT HAVING BEEN ELECTED.

THAT IS ONE OF THE FIRST ISSUES.

THAT BOTHERS ME.

PLUS ALL OF THE PREVIOUS BAGGAGE THAT HE HAS BRINGING WITH HIM, THE ACCUSATIONS OF YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY DOESN'T SPEAK WELL FOR THAT KIND OF A MERGER FROM MY POINT OF VIEW.

PLUS ON TOP OF THAT, I THINK THE PROPERTY, IF THIS PASSES, PROPERTY IN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND FRANKLIN COUNTY, ST.

CHARLES COUNTY, IS GOING TO BECOME VERY POPULAR.

THANK YOU.

>> WELL, INTERESTING POINT.

>> THANKS.

>> YOU KNOW, I -- I'VE BEEN PROBABLY IN MORE ONE-ON DEFENSES OF STEVE STENGER IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

I LIKE STEVE AND THINK HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB, WHICH I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH, BUT I WILL SAY THIS.

THE PART OF THIS THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ME IS THE IDEA THAT WE'RE NOT -- WE WOULD NOT, IF THIS PASSED, BE ELECTING THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE SAME TIME AT THE END -- IF IT WAS GOING TO BE 2022, THAT WOULD BE THE END OF HIS FOUR-YEAR TERM, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL THAT WE, THE PEOPLE, WOULD BE PICKING A CITY COUNCIL BUT NOT A MAYOR.

IT'S JUST -- >> FAIR POINT.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AND IT'S NOT A SHOT AT STENGER WHEN I SAY THAT.

>> THANKS A LOT.

APPRECIATE THE CALL, THANK YOU, AND ON TO BRUCE IN BYRNES MILL.

HI, BRUCE.

>> Caller: HI, GENTLEMEN.

THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL THIS EVENING.

I'M ALSO CALLING ABOUT THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

THIS REALLY SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT'S ONE MAN'S CONTINUED EFFORT TO ELIMINATE THE EARNINGS TAX IN THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CITY IS -- CAN SURVIVE OR WILL SURVIVE IF YOU TAKE 35% OF THEIR BUDGET AWAY AND THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE ELIMINATION OF THE EARNINGS TAX, AND THAT PROVISION IS INCLUDED IN THIS BALLOT LANGUAGE.

>> YES, IT IS.

WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS -- AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT INSIDE BASEBALL, BUT RIGHT NOW, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S LEGISLATION THAT MR.

REX SINQUEFIELD BASICALLY INSTITUTED THAT REQUIRES, IT REQUIRES A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE OF ST.

LOUIS EVERY -- AND KANSAS CITY EVERY FIVE YEARS TO CONTINUE THE EARNINGS TAX.

OKAY?

AND LAST TIME, THE VOTERS APPROVED IT, I THINK 75%, THREE OUT OF FOUR IN THE CITY WERE FOR IT, BUT IF THE CHARTER OF THE CITY CHANGES, THERE'S NO MORE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS TO VOTE FOR THE EARNINGS TAX.

SO IT'S GOING TO GO OUT.

10% FOR TEN STRAIGHT YEARS.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE UP THE SAVINGS BECAUSE THAT'S $150 MILLION A YEAR, ISN'T IT?

>> IT'S SOMETHING -- WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE LARGER ISSUES IS HOW IT AFFECTS THE 89 MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE SOME OF THEM HAVE SALES TAXES, SOME OF THEM DON'T.

SOME OF THEM USE THEM FOR PENSIONS, SOME DON'T, AND WHAT HAPPENS TO MANY OF THEM IS THEY WILL HAVE TO TURN TO PROPERTY TAXES AND THERE'S HANCOCK LIMITATIONS INVOLVED IN THAT, BUT IN ORDER -- IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO RAISE SALES TAXES IN THE NEW CITY, IF THEY GO TO PROPERTY TAXES, PLEASE DON'T TELL ME THAT THIS MONTH -- THIS NO LONGER AFFECTS PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

IF THEY CAN RAISE MONEY FOR THE PROPERTY TAXES, THAT'S MONEY THAT THE SCHOOLS WHICH RELY ON PROPERTY TAXES WON'T GET IF THEY NEED TO GRO.

AGAIN, I'M SOMEBODY THAT IS FOR CONSOLIDATION, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITHOUT DEMOCRACY AND LET'S SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS.

IS IT MADELEINE NEXT IN JENNINGS?

MADELEINE, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

>> Caller: YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M CALLING REGARDING THE MERGER AND I'M AGAINST THE MERGER IDEA.

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE FEMALE GUEST THAT WAS ON WITH YOU, MS.

MARXKORS.

IT IS AN ELITIST IDEA AND QUITE FRANKLYING I'M GETTING TIRED OF BILLIONAIRE REX SINQUEFIELD TRYING TO RUN THINGS.

IT'S LIKE THE OLD SAYING OF MONEY TALKS, MONEY WALKS.

THOSE WHO HAVE THE MONEY DECIDE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WITH THIS MERGER PLAN, WHY THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE AFFECTED BUT NOT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, AND WHY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WOULD BE -- WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY THIS WHEN WE HAVE ALL THIS BUSING THAT GOES FROM CITY STUDENTS GOING OUT TO THE COUNTY.

BUT NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS COULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY THE MERGER?

DOES ANYBODY KNOW -- >> I HAVE A SUSPICION, COULD BE THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE THE THIRD RAIL AND YOU TOUCH THEM AND YOU DIE.

NOW, THAT'S THE VOLUNTARY DESEG PROGRAM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE TRANSFER PROGRAM, INTERDISTRICT, THAT IS ACTUALLY PHASING OUT AS WE SPEAK.

IN THE NEXT 15 OR SO YEARS, THAT'S ACTUALLY WINDING DOWN.

BUT AS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I'M NOT CONVINCED IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE -- GOING TO RESULT IN BETTER PUBLIC SAFETY IF YOU HAVE ONE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WILL RESPONSE TIMES BE FASTER IN KIRKWOOD?

I'M NOT CONVINCED OF IT.

>> I HAPPEN TO BE A BIG FAN OF VOLUNTARY DESEG, AND SO -- ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT -- >> THAT'S SEPARATE.

>> I UNDERSTAND, AND I JUST SAID WHY I THINK SCHOOLS WILL EVENTUALLY BE AFFECTED BY SOME COMMUNITIES HAVING TO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES TO COMPENSATE FOR NOT HAVING SALES TAXES, BUT I THINK THERE ARE EXAMPLES WHERE THE CITY AND COUNTY HAVE WORKED TOGETHER WELL.

I MEAN, THE CVC IS A GOOD EXAMPLE ON TOURISM.

THE ZMD, THE ZOO MUSEUM DISTRICT, WHICH SHOULD INCLUDE THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES IN MY VIEW, AN EXAMPLE OF THE CITY AND COUNTY WORKING TOGETHER TO SUPPORT OUR CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS, SO THERE'S A TEMPLATE FOR THIS COOPERATION.

AS I SAID, I THINK THEY OUGHT TO MERGE, BUT LET'S SEE -- I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE DO IT -- >> BUT WE HAVE BYSTATE, MSC AND THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES, THEY ARE ALL WORKING BETTER TOGETHER, ARE THEY NOT?

>> RIGHT, AND I GUESS MY ULTIMATE THING IS, AS I WROTE IN THE RFT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SELL, THIS REASONABLE PEOPLE WILL DISAGREE.

I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY ON THE BETTER TOGETHER SIDE HAS BAD INTENTIONS.

>> I DON'T EITHER.

>> I THINK THEY MEAN WELL, BUT SELL ON IT REAL FACTS.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

LET'S GO TO JIM FROM ST.

LOUIS.

HI, JIM.

>> HI, JIM.

>> Caller: HOW IS IT GOING, GUYS?

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ST.

LOUIS'S REACTION TO THE WAY THE RAMS DID IN THE SUPER BOWL AND I THINK TO A DEGREE, IT'S GETTING KIND OF PETTY.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT COMMERCIAL A TERRY DID, OKAY, IT'S BEEN WHAT, HOW MANY YEARS?

>> THEY.

>> Caller: ENOUGH'S ENOUGH.

>> I AGREE.

I AGREE.

MOVE ON.

LET'S BRAG ABOUT THE GREAT THINGS WE DO HAVE.

YOU GOT IT, FLAUNT IT, YOU HAVE A LOT OF WONDERFUL ASPECTS TO LIVING IN ST.

LOUIS, SO WHY DWELL ON THE NEGATIVE.

>> AND I ALSO THINK THAT ST.

LOUIS, WITH THE LOSS OF CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS, PROBABLY WAS GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME SUPPORTING THREE TOP-TIER PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAMS.

THE BLUES AND CARDINALS, THEY WOULD NEVER SAY SO, BUT DEFINITELY BENEFITED FROM SOME OF THAT CORPORATE SPORTS PIE NO LONGER BEING EATEN UP BY THE RAMS.

>> DON'T FORGET MY CLEVELAND BROWNS, INDIANS AND CAVALIERS.

SMALL TOWN.

>> RIGHT, IT CAN HAPPEN, BUT I'M SAYING WE GOT TO MOVE ON.

IT IS WHAT IT IS.

>> OKAY, WHO'S NEXT?

>> JOHN FROM FRANKLIN COUNTY.

HEY, JOHN.

>> Caller: YES.

I WORKED IN MARYLAND HEIGHTS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FORGETTING THAT MARYLAND HEIGHTS AND CHESTERFIELD ARE JUST BARELY 30 YEARS OLD, AND BOTH OF THEM WERE STARTED OR GOT THEIR MAIN EMPHASIS BECAUSE OF POOR SERVICE FROM ST.

LOUIS COUNTY.

THERE WAS, IN THE LATE '80s WHEN WE HAD ALL THE SNOW, THE COUNTY ONLY PLOWED THE ARTERIAL STREETS.

NONE OF THE STREETS IN THE CITY WERE PLOWED.

POLICE SERVICE TO GET CALLS WERE AN HOUR AND A HALF TO TWO HOURS TO GET ANSWERS AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT MARYLAND HEIGHTS GOT STARTED AND THEN THE ZONING ISSUES, THE COUNTY ALWAYS -- MARYLAND HEIGHTS HAS MORE APARTMENT UNITS THAN ANY OTHER AREA AND THEY WERE ALL DUMPED THERE BY THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND CHESTERFIELD WAS STARTED BECAUSE THEY WERE ALLOWING HUGE SUBDIVISIONS TO BE BUILT OUT IN CHESTERFIELD, SO IT'S A FUNCTION OF SERVICE AND NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT SERVICE IN ALL THIS MERGER STUFF.

>> OH, I'M TALKING ABOUT IT.

THAT'S A BIG ISSUE AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE LIVING IN KIRKWOOD AND WEBSTER BECAUSE THE SERVICE IS GOOD AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY REALLY EXCELLENT PLACES TO LIVE.

YOU HAVE TO CONVINCE ME, BEFORE YOU SELL THE BETTER TOGETHER, THAT THAT WILL MAINTAIN.

>> IT WAS ALSO SOME REALLY EXCELLENT HISTORY FROM OUR CALLER.

>> YES, IT WAS.

A GUY NAMED JERRY JONES WROTE A BOOK CALLED FRAGMENTED BY DESIGN THAT INCLUDES SOME OF THIS THAT A LOT OF OUR LISTENERS, VIEWERS WOULD LIKE TO READ.

THANKS.

ROBERT FROM SOUTH CITY.

HI, ROBERT.

>> Caller: GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN.

I'M CALLING TO COMMENT ABOUT THE DISCUSSION ON THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS AND THEIR IDENTITY FOR THE STATE.

I LIVED IN MILWAUKEE FOR THREE YEARS AND I KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR, THE GREEN BAY PACKERS WOULD COME DOWN TO MILWAUKEE AND PLAY A GAME TO A WILDLY ENTHUSIASTIC CROWD.

I THINK THE GREEN BAY PACKERS REALLY ARE WISCONSIN'S TEAM, AND I THINK THE SAME SORT OF THING COULD EXIST HERE IN MISSOURI.

THANKS FOR RAISING THE ISSUE.

>> I AGREE.

>> I REALLY, FIRST OF ALL, I'M A RELATIVELY RECENT CHEESEHEAD AND THE IMAGE -- MY JUDGE FRIEND JOE HOLLEMAN IS A SERIOUS CHEESEHEAD AND I'M LEARNING TO BE ONE AS A PACKER FAN, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC BETWEEN LITTLE GREEN BAY AND MILWAUKEE AND -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADOPT KANSAS CITY'S TEAM.

WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT.

COME ON, LET'S -- >> WE HAVE SOME TWEETS.

>> LET'S GO TO THE TWITTERVERSE AND TO DAN SMITH, PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE STATEWIDE VOTE.

IT HAS TO BE STATEWIDE.

WE'RE STARTING A BRAND-NEW GOVERNMENT.

IT COULD BE STATEWIDE AND ENABLING LEGISLATION.

>> HEY, MD2097, AT LEAST BETTER TOGETHER AS SMART.

WE CAN ALWAYS IMPROVE THE PROPOSAL.

>> OKAY.

THANKS FOR THAT.

COOLGIRLFUSION TWEETS, IT'S NOT PRO LIFE.

IT'S CALLED ANTI-CHOICE.

I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T GET AN ABORTION, BUT SUPPORT FEMALES WHO CHOOSE TO DO SO.

THE NOTIFICATION LAW OR WAITING LAWS SEEM REASONABLE TO ME.

>> AND WE HEARD FROM DIG LIBERTARIAN.

WHEN DO YOU TAKE SOMEONE'S FIREARMS AWAY?

WHEN A CONVICTION IN A COURT OF LAW TAKES PLACE, THUS DUE PROCESS PLAYING OUT.

ANY OTHER CONCLUSION IS NOT ONLY A VIOLATION OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT, BUT ALSO THE 14th AMENDMENT AND IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

BY THE WAY, THERE ARE DOZENS OF GUN REGULATION NONTHE UNITED STATES.

THANKS FOR THE TWEETS.

#DONNYBROOKSTL.

LET'S GO TO KRYSTAL IN SWANSEA.

HI, CRYSTAL, WHAT DO YOU SAY?

>> Caller: THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL.

I WONDER WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THE PARENTAL CONSENT FOR ABORTIONS FOR YOUNG LADIES UNDER THE AGE OF 18?

I'M PRO CHOICE AND I JUST -- THINK IT JUST TEETERS ON A LINE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE -- IF A YOUNG MAN OR YOUNG LADY IS AT LEAST 13 YEARS OLD, THEY CAN GO TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND BE CHECKED FOR STDs, THEY CAN HAVE TREATMENT -- BE TESTED AND HAVE TREATMENT WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT, SO HOW DO WE CROSS THAT LINE THERE IF WE'RE SAYING YOU NEED CONSENT OF BOTH PARENTS FOR ABORTION?

DO WE CROSS THAT LINE TO SAY, OKAY, NOW YOU'RE 13, SO YOU STILL NEED TO HAVE BOTH PARENTS ON COME IN AND BE TESTED AND STREETED FOR AN ST -- TREATED FOR AN STDs?

I KNOW THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT I THINK TO HAVE BOTH PARENTS SIGNATURES FOR CONSENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR YOUNG LADIES TO -- BECAUSE, AGAIN, I'M PRO CHOICE SO I THINK THAT DISH JUST WANT TO KNOW YOUR -- I THINK THAT -- I JUST WANT TO KNOW YOUR OPINION ABOUT THAT.

>> I THINK IT'S A NOTIFICATION, NOT A CONSENT LAW.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, I WOULD JUST SAY THOSE ON THE PRO LIFE SIDE PROBABLY THINK THAT AN ABORTION AS MUCH MORE SERIOUS PROCEDURE THAN GETTING TESTED FOR STDs.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.

>> ON THE PRO CHOICE SIDE, I KIND OF WOULD RATHER LOOK AT THIS ISSUE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF A 15 OR 16 OR 17-YEAR-OLD GIRL WHO MAY HAVE A RELIGIOUS FAITH THAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH OTHERS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS AS A PERSON AND THAT'S A RELIGIOUS POINT OF DISAGREEMENT AND TO THAT 15 -- FOR THE STATE TO DICTATE TO THAT 15, 16, OR 17-YEAR-OLD THAT SHE'S GOING TO BECOME A MOTHER, PARTICULARLY A STATE THAT DOES ALMOST NOTHING TO SUPPORT THE ALREADY-BORN, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT AND I DO.

I RESPECT AMY FOR THE FACT OF NOT ONLY THE CIVILITY, BUT BEING CANDID ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS IS, IN FACT A WAY TO DELAY ABORTION FROM THE PRO LIFE SIDE, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT UP IN THE TERMS, BUT I -- I'M PRO CHOICE, SO I BELIEVE THAT IT'S A WOMAN'S DECISION AND AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, NOTIFYING ONE PARENT IS QUITE ADEQUATE.

LET'S GO TO ERIC FROM SOUTH CITY.

HEY, ERIC, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND?

>> Caller: HEY, TWO THINGS.

FIRST, I THINK THE MERGER IS AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY, BUT THEY NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THE STRUCTURE.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS FAR AS THE GUN SITUATION GOES, I THINK THEY NEED TO FIND A NUMBER OF HIGH-LEVEL LAW ENFORCEMENT FIRMS WHO ARE ALREADY PROVEN TO BE PRO GUN, ALLOW THEM TO ESTABLISH A LITMUS TEST AND IF YOU DON'T CHECK OFF THOSE BOXES VERIFIED, TAKE NO ACTION, BUT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE NEED TO HAVE MANDATES.

ANYBODY WHO IMPLIES THAT THEY HAVE OR USE A FIREARM IN THE COMMISSION OF A CRIME, THEY NEED TO HAMMER THEM.

>> I THINK SO.

YOU KNOW, IN THE REPORTING ABOUT TRENTON FORESTER WHO SHOT AND KILLED BLAKE SCHNEIDER AND THE ONLY WAS WAS HE COMPETENCE TO STAND TRIAL AND WHAT KIND OF SENTENCE SHOULD HE GET.

HE WENT INTO THE BIG BOX RETAILER AND THE GREETER KNEW HE WAS OUT OF HIS MIND, THE PERSON WHO SOLD HIM AMMUNITION KNEW HE WAS OUT OF HIS MIND AND THEY SOLEZ IT TO HIM ANYWAY.

THAT'S JUST UNTENABLE.

THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S HAPPENING TOO OFTEN IN THIS STATE.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO REGULATE IT.

I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE.

WHO'S NEXT?

I THINK IT'S -- THANKS, ERIC.

ON TO DEE IN DE PER.

THANKS FOR THE ALLITERATION.

>> Caller: YEAH, I'M REALLY CONCERNED -- >> CAN YOU TALK INTO YOUR PHONE?

>> Caller: YEAH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE COUNTY BOND RATING WITH THIS MERGER.

ALSO, I HEAR FROM MANY PEOPLE THAT THE CITY POLICE PENSION FUND IS WAY UNDERFUNDED AND THIS IS A WAY TO MAKE THE COUNTY BRING THAT UP TO PAR.

>> I THINK THEY CAN PAY THAT OFF WITH THE SALE OF THE AIRPORT.

>> WELL, THAT'S -- AND THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PLAN OFFICIALLY, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS THE CITY'S -- A VARIETY OF THE CITY'S PENSION DEBT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES AND THERE'S A LOT OF IT -- HAVING READ THE REPORT, YOU GET THROUGH, SOME OF IT IS ALL THIS NICE FEEL-GOOD STUFF ABOUT HOW HARD THEY WORKED TO GET INPUT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT SHIFTS TO SOME PRETTY COMPLEX LEGALESE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THIS PLAN MEANS.

I DON'T HAVE ANSWERS FOR YOU, MYSELF, ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH BOND RATINGS AND PENSION PLANS.

AS I SAY, THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.

IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION FOR THE NEXT 22 MONTHS.

>> OH YEAH.

>> OR 20 MONTHS, WHATEVER IT IS.

LET'S GO TO JEAN IN OAKVILLE.

WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND, JEAN?

>> Caller: GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M AGAINST THE CITY-COUNTY MERGER FOR VARIOUS REASONS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ONE THING.

YOU SAID THAT CIVIC PROGRESS IS ENDORSING THIS.

WELL, I CAN REMEMBER IN THE '80s WHEN ALL THE BUSINESSES ENDORSED THE MALL BETWEEN FAMOUS-BARR AND DROVE ALL THE LITTLE BUSINESSES OUT OF DOWNTOWN ST.

LOUIS AND NOW YOU CAN'T PURCHASE ANYTHING BESIDE FOOD BETWEEN THE RIVERFRONT AND TUCKER BOULEVARD.

THERE'S NOT A STORE LEFT.

>> YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GATEAWAY MALL?

>> NO, SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE -- YOU KNOW, THE MALL THAT WAS BETWEEN FAMOUS-BARR AND DILLARDS.

ST.

LOUIS CENTER.

>> OH ST.

CENTER, RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> Caller: EVERYTHING'S EMPTY.

THERE'S NOT A STORE DOWN THERE.

>> YEAH, ST.

LOUIS CENTER WAS NOT A SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT BY ANY STRETCH.

THAT'S GREAT.

AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT OF VIEWERS WITH SOME GOOD HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE.

>> DON'T TRUST THE EXPERTS, I THINK IS WHAT SHE'S SAYING.

>> GOOD POINT.

APPRECIATE IT.

>> WE MOVE TO -- IS IT EVAN'S TURN?

EVAN IN SOUTH COUNTY.

HI, EVAN.

>> Caller: HI, GUYS, HOW YOU DOING?

THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL.

I WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON THE MERGER ONE MORE TIME.

I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY GETTING BORING, BUT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CONCERNS ME AND YOU RAISED IT EARLIER, THE CITY LOSES ITS EARNINGS TAX, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT METRO IS GOING TOSH CHECKING ALL THE SALES TAXES FROM THE CITY AND COUNTY.

I JUST WONDER WHAT DIRECTION THOSE SALES TAXES ARE GOING TO FLOW.

>> WELL, THERE'S GOING TO BE 33 MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL WHO ARE GOING TO DECIDE.

>> AND GIPS GOING TO FLOW TO THE CITY AND THAT'S WHEN THE COUNTY IS GOING TO GO WHAT DID WE DO AND MAYBE WE SHOULD SECEDE AND GO TO ST.

CHARLES.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FLIGHT TO JEFFCO AND ST.

CHARLES IF ALL THE SALES TAXES FLOW EAST.

>> IT SHOULDN'T FLOW EAST.

CERTAINLY THE MAJORITY, TWO OUT OF THREE, MAYBE THREE OUT OF FOUR, COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD BE IN THE COUNTY, RIGHT?

IF IT'S 1.3 POPULATION -- >> THE WHOLE POINT IS THERE WON'T BE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THEM.

IT WILL DO AWAY WITH THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY BASICALLY.

AGAIN, THERE'S PARTS -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE WINNERS AND LOSERS, AND I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THE COUNTY IS ALL LOSERS AND THE CITY IS ALL WINNERS.

I THINK THERE'S -- THAT, I DON'T THINK IS -- AT LEAST THAT'S NOT MY ARGUMENT.

IT'S MORE MY PROBLEMS AT THE MOMENT ARE WITH THE UNDEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND THE DISINGENUOUS STATEMENTS ABOUT CITY SIZE.

>> BUT THE FAIR POINT, LOOKING AT THE EARNINGS TAX, IF THREE OUT OF FOUR ST.

LOUIS CITY VOTERS VOTED FOR RETAIN IT, THEN WHO IN GOD'S NAME DECIDES THAT WE'RE GETTING RID OF IT?

>> WELL, THAT'S -- WE'RE GETTING RID OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING RID OF THE CITY, BASICALLY, BUT NO, THAT'S WHO -- REX SINQUEFIELD, ACTUALLY.

>> SO ONE GUY DOESN'T LIKE IT, AND SO IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD ANY POLITICIAN RUNNING AGAINST THE EARNINGS TAX, WHETHER IT WAS LYDA KREWSON OR ARE STEVE STENGER.

>> AND AGAIN, I SAID IT LAST WEEK.

REX SINQUEFIELD IS A, YOU KNOW, GOT THE RIGHT TO DO WITH HIS MONEY AS HE WISHES.

YOU KNOW, IT WOULD -- TO ME, IF HIS VIEWS ARE VALID AND WORTHY ACTIVE PUBLIC DEBATE, WHY ISN'T HE EVER OUT -- WHY IS HE ON THE CHARLIE BRENNAN SHOW?

>> WELL, HE WILL BE.

>> LET'S SEE WHAT MAYBE HE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO LET'S GO TO BILL FROM ROCK HILL.

HEY, BILL, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND?

>> Caller: GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN.

YOU MENTIONED THE POSSIBILITY OF THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS PLAYING THE RAMS HERE IN LIKE AN EXHIBITION GAME.

>> RIGHT.

>> Caller: RIGHT IDEA, BUT WRONG TEAMS.

DON'T HAVE THE RAMS PLAY THE CHIEFS.

HAVE THE RAMS PLAY THE FOOTBALL CARDINALS.

EVERYBODY CAN COME OUT AND BOO THEIR HEARTS OUT.

THEY CAN CALL IT THE BOO BOWL OR HOW ABOUT THE MFFC, MIDDLE FINGER FALL CLASSIC.

>> INTERESTING IDEA.

I'M NOT THINKING, IF THERE'S ANYBODY LESS LIKELY AMONG THE NFL OWNERS TO DO ST.

LOUIS ANY FAVORS BY SHOWING UP THAN KROENKE, IT'S STILL BIDWELL OR HIS FAMILY.

>> DON'T FORGET THE OWNER OF THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS DID VOTE TO SEND THE RAMS TO LOS ANGELES.

>> AND DON'T FORGET THAT THE BIDWELLS VOTED TWICE, NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE AGAINST ALLOWING THE LOS ANGELES RAMS TO MOVE TO ST.

LOUIS.

>> OH REALLY?

OKAY, GOOD.

>> BACK IN THE '90s, TWICE.

THERE WERE TWO VOTES AND THE SECOND ONE, WHICH I THINK WAS 24-8 OR SOMETHING, BIDWELL VOTED AGAINST THE L.A.

RAMS MOVING HERE THE SECOND TIME.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT GOOD THOUGHT AND LET'S GO TO THE TWITTERVERSE.

MARYBWILKS, FOR EVERY DELAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE PUTS IN PLACE FOR A WOMAN'S ABORTION, THAT SAME TIME PERIOD COULD BE USED AS A DELAY TO BUY A GUN.

>> INTERESTING.

ALSO HEARD FROM HOLYSTAR77, THE RED LAW FLAG IS A GOOD IDEA -- THE RED FLAG LAW, RATHER, BUT LET'S NOT KID OURSELVES.

IF WE'RE GOING TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT REDUCING GUN VIOLENCE, WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN BACKGROUND CHECKS WHICH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC SUPPORTS.

>> AND FROM LIZWILL, BEST THOUGHT OF THE NIGHT AS CHARLIE'S.

MAYBE LOCAL BUSINESSES SHOULD FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING RATHER THAN SPORTS TEAMS.

YOU GOT A NICE SHOUTOUT FROM LIZ WILL.

THANKS, KEEN THE TWEETS COMING -- KEEP THE TWEETS COMING TO #DONNYBROOKSTL.

>> IT'S NOT A UNIQUE IDEA IN SAN FRANCISCO.

FACEBOOK, TWITTER, A FEW OTHERS ARE POOLING ALMOST A BILLION DOLLARS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

>> I THINK IT'S COMMENDABLE THAT YOU SUGGEST THAT.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

LET'S GO TO JACK FROM ST.

CHARLES.

WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND, JACK?

>> Caller: HEY, GUYS.

WHAT'S UP?

EVERYBODY IS WONDERING WHO WE SHOULD ADOPT AS A FOOTBALL TEAM.

HOW ABOUT THE ONE LONE VOTER THAT VOTED THAT WE STAY IN ST.

LOUIS, WHOEVER THAT MIGHT BE?

>> WHO WAS IT?

DO YOU KNOW?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

>> IT WASN'T KROENKE.

>> WAS IT DALLAS, JERRY JONES?

>> I DON'T KNOW WHO.

IT WASN'T JERRY JONES -- >> NO, HE WAS HELPING KROENKE.

>> OH YOU'RE RIGHT.

NEVER MIND, WHAT WAS I THINKING.

>>S WOFRT REASONS I DECIDED TO BECOME -- I'VE ALWAYS JUST LIKED THE PACK, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS, IT'S THE ONLY MUNICIPALLY OWNED TEAM.

>> YEAH, BY THE PEOPLE.

>> IT WOULD BE NICE IF ALL 32 OF THEM WERE.

LET'S GO TO DONNA FROM AFTERTON.

>> HEY, DONNA.

>> Caller: HI THERE.

A COUPLE COMMENT AND A QUESTION.

FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY OUTSIDE ST.

COUNTY OR CITY SHOULD GET TO VOTE ON THIS MER DER, SECTION MY REAL ESTATE TAX GOES UP JUST ABOUT EVERY YEAR.

TO ME, IT'S JUST THE WAY TO HAVE THE COUNTY PAY FOR THE CITY'S PROBLEMS AND LAST, WHO THE NECK IS THIS BILLIONAIRE REX LAST PUSHING THIS DIMWITTED IDEA ANYWAY.

>> HE'S A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN WHO STARTED A -- HE ACTUALLY STARTED THE INDEX FUND IN 1973.

>> GIVE HIM CREDIT.

HE'S A SELF-MADE MAN.

HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS WITH HIS MONEY, BUT I THINK -- >> BUT HE'S THE ONLY GUY SAYING GET RID OF EARNINGS TAX.

AND HIS PHILOSOPHY IS YOU DON'T TAX THINGS YOU WANT TO GROW.

AND HE FEELS LIKE JOBS CAN'T LEAVE.

>> IN KANSAS CITY AND ST.

LOUIS, I THINK IT WAS CLOSER TO 80%, THAT'S AN OVERWHELMING PUBLIC PLAN DATE THAT BASICALLY SAID IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE WORKING IN OUR CITY BY DAY AND RELYING ON OUR POLICE PROTECTION AND OUR STREETS BEING IN GOOD SHAPE AND OUR FIRE PROTECTION, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY A LITTLE PERCENTAGE OF YOUR EARNINGS.

I DON'T THINK IT'S SUCH AN UNREASONABLE TAX AS A LOT OF PEOPLE DO.

>> WELL, I'VE BEEN PAYING IT FOR 31 YEARS.

I'VE NEVER REALLY RUN INTO COLLEAGUES WHO WALK AROUND MOANING ABOUT THE EARNINGS TAX.

IT MIGHT EXIST, BUT -- >> AND PEOPLE MAKE A LOT INFERENCES.

WHEN I DID OWN THE RIVERFRONT, WHICH I DON'T ANYMORE, WE DID MOVE FROM THE COUNTY TO THE CITY.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.

WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

THANK YOU ALL.

TRY TO STAY WARM OUT THERE AND WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT THURSDAY NIGHT.

>> GOOD NIGHT.