AND LEONA B. CARPENTER FOUNDATION AND THE CHARLES AFRUE AUFF FOUNDATION.

>> THIS FOLK ON TO TO THE CONTRARY, FIRST BREAKING GROUND IF NOT THE CEILING.

WOMEN CANDIDATES MAKE HISTORY AS THEY RUN FOR GOVERNOR.

THEN ONCE AGAIN WE ASK, IS THE ME TOO MOVEMENT FIZZLING?

BEHIND THE HEADLINES BE WHO'S FUELING THE FAR LEFT?

>> ELLIS-VAN CREVELD HELLO, WELCOME TO DO THE CONTRARY, A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES FIRST, SHATTERING THE GLASS CEILING?

A RECORD NUMBER OF WOMEN, 11, ARE RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR THIS YEAR AND THAT NUMBER COULD GO HIGHER BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.

THERE ARE 16 ADDITIONAL FEMALE CANDIDATES COMPETING IN GUBERNATORIAL RACES IN UPCOMING PRIMARIES.

THE PRIOR RECORD WAS TEN FEMALE CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR IN 1994.

IN THE PAST, A RECORD TEN WOMEN GOVERNORS SERVED AT THE SAME TIME.

TODAY THAT NUMBER IS A MERE SIX.

THE CENTER FOR AMERICAN WOMEN IN POLITICS REPORTS AFTER THIS WEEK 'S PRIMARY, A RECORD NUMBER OF WOMEN WILL RUN AS MAJOR PARTY CANDIDATES FOR A SEAT IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

AT LEAST 182 MAJOR PARTY NOMINEES RUNNING FOR THE HOUSE ARE WOMEN.

THAT BEATS THE 2016 RECORD OF 167.

WITH ALL THESE WOMEN RUNNING, WHAT DO WOMEN VOTERS WANT?

A NEW KAISER FAMILY FOUNDATION POLL FINDS TWICE AS MANY YOUNG WOMEN VOTERS SAYING THEY ARE DEMOCRATS AS OPPOSED TO REPUBLICANS.

AND THAT SAME GROUP IS MORE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT VOTING THIS YEAR THAN IN PREVIOUS MIDTERM ELECTIONS.

SO DONNA EDWARDS, DOES MORE WOMEN RUNNING MEAN MORE WOMEN WILL WIN?

>> WELL, I HOPE SO, BUT IF YOU DON'T RUN, YOU CAN'T WIN.

>> AH-HA.

>> MY PREDICTION IS THE PIPELINE FOR THE PRESIDENCY.

I PREDICT OUR FIRST, IF NOT OUR FIRST TWO OR THREE FEMALE RESIDENTS WILL BE OUT OF GOVERNORS.

>> I HOPE SO AS WELL.

AND I THINK THAT THIS PIPELINE WILL ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO RUN AND MORE WOMEN TO RUN AND WIN IN THE FUTURE.

>> IN THE LONG TERM, YES.

IN THE SHORT-TERM, NO.

>> WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?

>> IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY FOR WOMEN WINNING IN PRIMARIES.

ESPECIALLY IN A GENERAL ELECTION IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO GET INDEPENDENT VOTERS TO VOTE FOR YOU IN THE GENERAL.

THE BIG BLUE WAVE, THE QUESTION IS WILL IT SUSTAIN?

THE ELECTION OF PRESIDENT TRUMP AND WHAT HE'S DONE TO WOMEN'S RIGHTS.

PROGRAMS THAT HELP WOMEN, PROGRAMS THAT WOMEN RELY ON.

WILL IT SUSTAIN UNTIL NOVEMBER?

>> I THINK THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY HAS GALVANIZED THIS AMAZING GROUP OF WOMEN WHO ARE RUNNING AND MOST OF THEM ARE DEMOCRATS.

THE QUESTION IS WHERE ARE THE WOMEN ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE?

I DO SEE IT CARRYING UNTIL NOVEMBER.

THE ENERGY IS THERE.

THE MOMENTUM IS THERE.

THE MONEY IS THERE.

AND THESE WOMEN HAVE A MESSAGE ABOUT WHY THEY SERVE.

OF THESE WOMEN RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR, WHO IS GOING TO WIN?

>> I THINK THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE QUITE A FEW OF THEM WILL WIN.

THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE RUNNING IN RED STATES >> .

NOMINEES, I THINK THE THREE REPUBLICANS PROBABLY WILL WIN, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND NEBRASKA.

>> WHAT ABOUT NEW MEXICO?

>> I THINK SHE HAS A GOOD CHANCE >> LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THEM BY NAME.

GO AHEAD.

YOU TELL ME WHO YOU THINK.

>> CHRISTINE ERMAN IN SOUTH DAKOTA.

I THINK IN.

ABOUT BAM SHE'S ALREADY LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND ACTING GOVERNOR.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS IN RED STATES IN >> I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A TOUGHER TIME.

WE HAVE REPUBLICANS HAVE 31 GOVERNOR SHIPS FOR A REASON.

WE'VE BEEN FOUND BY THE PEOPLE IN THOSE STATES TO BE VERY COMPETENT AS EXECUTIVES AT THE STATE LEVEL AND IT REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP.

TRUMP HAS BEEN GOOD FOR WOMEN IN THAT WAY, GETTING THIS 'EM TO RUN FOR OFFICE, SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

RUNNING A STATE IN THAT EXECUTIVE CAPACITY IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUDGED VERY HARSHLY BY THE PEOPLE IN THAT STATE.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY TOUGH FOR WOMEN TO SHOW THEY HAVE THE COMPETENCY TO DO IT.

>> I'VE HEARD ABOUT WOMEN TAKING OVER THE HOUSE, MORE WOMEN HELPING IN THE PUSH TO PICK UP THE 24 SEATS NECESSARY BECAUSE IT'S THE HOUSE AND BECAUSE THEY'RE RUNNING IN SMALLER DISTRICTS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING THAN THE SENATE.

SOMEONE TOLD ME THE HOUSE DISTRICTING ARE GERRYMANDERING.

EVEN THOUGH THEY GOT THE NOMINATION, THEY'RE RUNNING IN DISTRICTS THAT ARE WRITTEN BY REPUBLICAN STATE LAWMAKERS TO ELECT REPUBLICANS.

WHICH IS IT?

>> CLEARLY AT LEAST 24 OF THESE DISTRICTS WERE ACTUALLY WON BY HILLARY CLINTON.

SO THERE ARE WOMEN WHO ARE RUNNING IN SOME OF THOSE DISTRICTS AND THEY'RE GOING TO WIN.

A LOT OF THESE DISTRICTS ARE TOUGH DISTRICTS TO WIN IN, BUT I DO THINK THAT THE MOMENTUM IS AT SOME OF THOSE GOVERNOR'S RACES.

DEVELOPMENT COUNT HER OUT.

IT'S A RED STATE, BUT IT'S GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE.

MICHELLE GRESHAM IN NEW MEXICO.

KATE BROWN IN OREGON.

THESE ARE WOMEN WHO ACTUALLY CAN RUN AND WIN THESE ELECTIONS, AND SO I THINK IT'S ALL GOING TO BE ABOUT WHO TURN OUT THEIR VOTERS.

>> I WAS SHOCKED TO READ A POLL THIS WEEK ABOUT STACY ABRAMS.

I THOUGHT SHE WAS A GONER BECAUSE OF THE MAKEUP OF THE PARTISANSHIP.

SHE'S 5050.

>> I THINK IT'S WIDING.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO SUPPORT HER.

THE QUESTION IS WILL THEY COME OUT IN NOVEMBER?

REPUBLICANS HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN ABLE TO GET THEIR VOTERS OUT TO TURN OUT AND VOTE.

CAN DEMOCRATS TAKE THAT SAME KIND OF ENERGY, THAT ANTI-TRUMP ENERGY AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING AT THE KNOWLES AND ESPECIALLY, EVEN JUST TAKING OUT THE ANTI-TRUMP MESSAGE, ON A LOCAL LEVEL, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T VOTE BASED ON JUST THE PRESIDENT ALONE.

THEY'RE VOTING ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR DISTRICTS AND THE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM.

BREAD AND BUTTER FAMILY CANNOT BE MY FAMILY.

WHAT ARE HEALTHCARE COSTS LOOKING LIKE?

WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY DISTRICT IS WHAT MATTERS AND WHAT ARE A LOT OF THESE CASES?

IT'S GOING TO BE HARD.

I'M NOT SURE STACY ABRAMS IS GOING TO CARRY IT OVER THE FINISH LINE.

>> STACY ABRAMS IS RUNNING A CAMPAIGN ABOUT GEORGIA.

SHE WAS A MINORITY LEADER IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA.

SHE'S RUNNING ON BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUES.

SHE'S A SMALL BUSINESS WOMAN.

SHE CAN WIN THIS RACE.

IT'S LIKE UP 16% IN THIS PRIMARY >> IT IS, BUT STILL, I DON'T KNOW THE RACIAL BREAK DOWN IN GEORGIA.

I WOULD IMAGINE, AS SAD A FACT AS THIS IS, THAT THE VOTING IS GOING TO SPLIT ALONG RACIAL LINES AS MUCH AS IT MIGHT SPLIT ALONG PARTY LINES.

AND I THINK AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE VASTLY OUTNUMBERED BY WHITES IN THAT STATE.

>> WELL, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT STACY APPEALS TO INDEPENDENT VOTERS.

I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF INDEPENDENT VOTERS AND, YOU KNOW , WHITE WOMEN WHO ARE MOVING AWAY FROM KEMP, BECAUSE HE IS FAR OVER TO THE RIGHT.

AND SO I DO THINK THAT SHE HAS THE POTENTIAL, IF ANYBODY DOES IN THE SOUTH, SHE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO TURN THIS THING AROUND.

IT'S NOT A SHOE IN BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION, BUT YOU LOOK AT THESE EARLY POLL NUMBERS.

DON'T COUNT HER OUT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> SHE ALSO APPEALS TO A LOT OF YOUNGER VOTERS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACE.

57% OF MILLENNIALS LEAN DEMOCRATIC, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ACTUALLY REGISTERED DEMOCRATIC, AND I THINK SHE'LL APPEAL TO THEM.

>> LOOK AT THE KAISER POLL.

MILLENNIALS AND YOUNG WOMEN ARE THE ONES WHO ARE ENERGIZED.

18 TO 44.

MID-RANGE.

MID AGE.

BUT YOUNG-ISH.

RIGHT.

BUT ARE THEY REALLY -- YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY THE 18 TO 25 GROUP.

I MEAN, WITH OBAMA IT WAS TALKED ABOUT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TURN OUT AND THEY DIDN'T TURN OUT.

THEY TEND TO TELL THE POLLSTERS THEY WILL, BUT NOT SHOW UP.

EXACTLY.

ABRAMS IS THE IT GIRL FOR THIS ELECTION CYCLE, BUT DON'T COUNT THE GEORGIA PARTY OUT, BECAUSE THE GOP DOWN THERE IS VERY STRONG.

IT'S GOING TO BE A MATTER OF TURNOUT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

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>>> FROM BREAKING RECORDS TO ME TOO FISSURES.

>> IT'S BEEN MEEKS SINCE LESS MONDAY STRESS WAS OUT FOR ALLEGED SEXUAL MISCONDUCT.

HE REMAINS IN HIS JOB MOONVES REMAINS IN HIS JOB WHILE AN INVESTIGATION IS UNDERTAKEN BY OUTSIDE LAWYERS HIRED BY CBS.

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS REPORTS SCORES OF POLITICIANS ACCUSED OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT ARE RUNNING AGAIN AND POISED TO WIN - PARTICULARLY IN STATE RACES.

THAT INCLUDES THE DEPOSED SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE IN KENTUCKY, WHO DESPITE AN ETHICS COMMISSION REPRIMAND IS RUNNING UNOPPOSED.

MANY WOMEN ARE TAKING THIS AS A SIGN THE #METOO MOVEMENT IS LOSING STEAM AND THAT SOME COMPANIES HAVE DEVISED SUCCESSFUL STRATEGIES TO KEEP CORPORATE LEADERS ON THE JOB, EVEN AFTER BEING WIDELY OUTED AS SEXUAL HARASSERS AND ABUSERS.

>> SO EVER SINCE THE ME TOO MOVEMENT STARTED ALMOST A YEAR AGO, WE'VE BEEN DOING STORIES ABOUT IT, HAS IT FIZZLED YET.

AND IT KEEPS GOING.

IS IT FIZZLING IN YOUR EYES BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, MOONVES IS ABLE IS TO STAY ON THE JOB OR IS IT STILL GOING TO DRIVE WOMEN TO THE POLLS IN NOVEMBER AND KICK OUT WHO L. PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE TO PUNISH SEXUAL ABUSERS IN HIS >> IT IS GOING TO CONTINUES ON, PARTICULARLY FOR WOMEN WITHOUT A VOICE.

FOR HOLLYWOOD WOMEN, EVERYBODY IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET, AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN ANY OTHER WAY BUT TO SAY THEY SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCE.

FOR WOMEN WHO DON'T HAVE THE PLATFORM, THEY'RE CONTINUING TO GET THE SUPPORT THEY NEED, IF IT'S LEGAL HELP THEY NEED, LIKE TIMES UP, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEN YOU'RE SEEN IT EXPAND TO AN INTERNATIONAL SCOPE, WHICH I THINK IS ALSO INTERESTING.

WILL IT TRANSLATE TO THE POLLS?

I DON'T THINK SO, BECAUSE I THINK, AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WOMEN CARE ABOUT WHEN THEY GO TO POLLS, BATTLING ECONOMIC HEALTHCARE AND NATIONAL SECURITY -- >> IT'S NOT ECONOMIC.

HEALTHCARE IS AHEAD OF THE ECONOMY FOR WOMEN RIGHT NOW.

USUALLY IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID, BUT THIS TIME IT'S HEALTH CARE STUPID.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE MOVEMENT?

IS IT FIZZLING?

WILLING IT HOLD ON?

>> I DON'T, BUT DAY I THINK THAT THESE STORIES KEEP EVOLVING EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT WHETHER IT'S FIZZLED AND I THINK WHERE YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE REALLY IS WITH WOMEN WHO ARE IN ORDINARY JOBS AND ORDINARY WORKPLACES AND COMPANIES AND CORPORATIONS BEGINNING TO PAY ATTENTION TO THESE ISSUES IN HIRING AND IN THEIR HUMAN RESOURCES.

WHETHER OR NOT IT'S IN THE HEADLINES FROM THE NEWS MEDIA OR FROM HOLLYWOOD.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, STILL A LONG WAY TO GO, BUT I DON'T THINK THE MOVEMENT HAS FIDDLED.

>> WHAT ABOUT CBS?

I MEAN, IT IS A LIBERAL COMPANY, OR AT LEAST IT CERTAINLY IS SEEN THAT WAY.

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT FOX NEWS.

ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S ALREADY FIND CHARLIE ROSE, ITS TOP ANCHOR, AND JUST THIS WEEK JEFF FAGER, THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF 60 MINUTES, TWO VERY HIGH LEVEL JOBS.

CAN CBS SAY, LOOK, WE ALREADY GOT RID OF A LOT OF PEOPLE.

WE NEED THIS GUY TO KEEP MAKING MONEY FOR US.

>> WELL, AND I THINK ALSO HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO BRING SOME EVIDENCE THAT SOME OF IT WAS CONSENSUAL.

SO IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THIS PLAYS OUT.

IF HE CAN SAY, THEY CAN SAY THAT NOW, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CASE WAS THEN.

IT STILL DAMAGES HIM, AND I THINK ULTIMATELY HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO.

>> I DON'T THINK THE WOMEN ARE SAYING IT WAS CONSENSUAL.

>> HE'S ADMITTING THAT HE DID GET INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE OTHER SITUATIONS.

>> RIGHT.

>> BUT THE WOMEN ARE NOT SAKE IT WAS CONSENSUAL.

>> ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES HERE, I THINK, IS THAT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO REALIZE THAT THIS IS AN AN ENDEMIC PROBLEM IN SOCIETY IT'S NOT JUST HOLLYWOOD.

IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, MEDIA COMPANIES.

IT'S EVERYWHERE.

AND THAT GETS BACK TO THE ECONOMIC ISSUE, I THINK, THAT CORPORATIONS ARE GOING, YOU KNOW , THAT CAN'T GET RID OF ALL THEIR MAIL EXECUTIVES.

THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.

BY I THINK IT IS REALLY AN ISSUE THAT CORPORATION ARE HIS STARTING TO SAY, WOW, THIS IS A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN WE THOUGHT.

>> THE LONGER HE STAYS, AREN'T THERE GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE STORIES ABOUT HOW THE MOVEMENT IS FIZZLING?

THAT HR DEPARTMENTS HAVE LEARNED HOW TO HANDLE IT?

THAT THEY HIRE THIS LAW FIRM THAT'S HEADED BY A HUSBAND/WIFE TEAM AND THEY STOP MORE NEGATIVE STORIES FROM COMING OUT AND THEY PLANT POSITIVE STORIES OR PLANT STORIES THAT MAKE THE ACCUSERS LOOK BAD?

THAT THIS WHOLE KIND OF PLAY BOOK IS GOING ON OF HOW TO REACT AND HOW TO KEEP YOUR PERSONNEL AND NOT FIRE THEM?

>> YES.

I CERTAINLY SEE THAT'S AN ISSUE, BUT I THINK THIS HAS REACHED A BIG ENOUGH, HIGH ENOUGH LEVEL THAT IT WILL KEEP GOING ON.

I DON'T SEE IT FIZZLING.

>> WHY, IF THE ACCIDENT, IS THE GUY IN KENTUCKY RUNNING FOR OFFICE AGAIN?

WHY DIDN'T THE WOMEN OF KENTUCKY SAY, YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN REPRIMANDED BY AN ETHICS COMMITTEE.

WHY IS HE STILL IN POLITICS?

>> GOOD QUESTION.

>> AND AGAIN, YOU CAN'T WIN 'EM ALL, BUT BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE GOING TO BE OTHER HIGH PROFILE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTED.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE ENDS OF IT, WHICH IS JUST ASTOUNDING.

>> AND SOME OF THEM WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN OUTED AND FIRED ARE STARTING TO TRY TO COME BACK.

IS THAT GOING TO WORK?

AND WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THE ME TOO MOVEMENT IF THEY DO THAT SUCCESSFULLY?

>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THE MOVEMENT , BECAUSE THE ULTIMATE CHECK ON THAT IS GOING TO BE WHETHER, YOU KNOW, VIEWERS AND ADVERTISERS AND TELEVISION FILM COME BACK WITH THEM.

IT'S GOING TO BE WHETHER VOTERS ARE GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YES TO THAT GUY WHO HAD TO STEP AWAY AND, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE CONTROVERSY.

SO I THINK THE JURY IS STILL OUT ON WHETHER THESE FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO COME BACK, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME KIND OF CHECK ON THE PUBLIC.

>> NOT ALL THESE CREEPS ARE CREATED EQUAL, BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY HAD THE BACKGROUND OF BEING, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY I WON'T SAY MISOGYNIES TICK, BUT AT LEAST HAD THE AURA OF THIS WAS NOT AS UNEXPECTED, VERSUS THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS PUT THEMSELVES OUT AS A PARAGON OF VERB TWO WHEN IT CAME TO WOMEN.

>> FEMINISTS.

>> TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO THOSE WHO HAVE HAD SKETCHY BACKGROUNDS, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME BACK IN AND SAY, LISTEN, YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE BUYING, KIND OF THING, AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH IT.

THE OTHERS -- >> BUT THE TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

WHAT WAS ACCEPTABLE TWO YEARS AGO IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE.

>> AND THEY CAN COME BACK AND SAY, I'VE CHANGED.

YOU'LL SEE IT.

BUT UNDERSTAND WHERE I WAS, THAT WAS THE CULTURE.

THAT'S WHO I WAS.

AND I DIDN'T TRY TO FOOL YOU BACK THEN, BUT THIS IS WHO I AM NOW.

>> WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE A SHORT LEASH.

>> OH, YEAH.

VERY SHORT LEASH.

>> PATRICE, YOUR THOUGHTS.

MAKING COME BADGES?

>> YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO LIKE WHAT THEY'VE ALWAYS SAID AND DID BEFORE MOVING BEHIND THEM ONE # 100%, NO MATTER WHAT.

AND I THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY ISSUES COMING AT US AT ONE TIME, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO PUT ALL OF YOUR ENERGY TOWARDS STOPPING THIS ONE GUY AND STOPPING ANOTHER GUY AND STOPPING ANOTHER GUY AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE MAYBE IN SOME OF THESE INSTANCES THE ALLEGATIONS WERE JUST ALLEGATIONS.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER THINKAL OF THIS.

>> BEHIND THE HEADLINES.

PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS ARE URGING URGING THE PARTY TO SHIFT FOCUS FROM WHITE MODERATES TOWARD PEOPLE OF COLOR.

CAN THE DEMOCRATS WIN IN THIS YEAR'S MIDTERM ELECTIONS USING A POPULIST ECONOMIC MESSAGE MIXED WITH A SOCIAL JUSTICE AGENDA?

EVEN THOUGH BERNIE SANDERS BACKED CANDIDATES ARE ARE ON A LOSING STREAK, SOME PROGRESSIVES STILL SAY THIS IS THE WAY TO GO.

A DIVERSE ARRAY OF POLITICAL LEADERS INCLUDING HIGH PROFILE WOMEN SENATORS LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN AND KAMALA HARRIS.

COULD THIS YEAR'S NETROOTS NATION CONFERENCE BE A FORESHADOWING OF THINGS TO COME FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

MANY OF THE SPEAKERS SAID THE PARTY MUST SHIFT FROM TRYING TO PICK UP WHITE SWING VOTERS AND FOCUS ON INCREASING TURNOUT AMONG DEMOGRAPHICS MORE LIKELY TO VOTE DEMOCRAT.

THESE INCLUDE PEOPLE OF COLOR, YOUNG VOTERS, AND WOMEN.

THE ELECTION OF DONALD TRUMP REALLY REPRESENTED SOMETHING OF A CULTURAL DISRUPTION, AND CHANGED THE EQUATION.

SO EVEN FOR WOMEN WHO MAYBE DID NOT DEFINE THEMSELVES AS TREMENDOUSLY POLITICALLY ENGAGED, OR THINK OF THEMSELVES AS POLITICALLY ENGAGED, THAT ELECTION WAS GAME CHANGING.

AND THAT MEANS ONE, THAT THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT HOW THEY ARE VOTING DIFFERENTLY.

BUT THAT ALSO HAS EQUATED TO A WHOLE LEVEL OF ACTIVISM IN OTHER AREAS OF THEIR LIVES.

PARTICIPATING IN MARCHES, GETTING INVOLVED ON LOCAL ISSUES AND CAMPAIGNS, UM AND BEING AN ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY CARE ABOUT AS WELL.

JULIE KOHLER HELPS RUN A PROGRESSIVE DONOR NETWORK AND RECENTLY WROTE AN ARTICLE FOR THE NATION TITLED "CAN WHITE WOMEN HELP BUILD A PROGRESSIVE FUTURE?"

SHE ARGUES THAT WOMEN OF COLOR SHOULD BE THE MOVEMENT'S PRIMARY FOCUS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IS THAT WOMEN OF COLOR FORM THE BASE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

IT IS WOMEN OF COLOR, AND PARTICULARLY BLACK WOMEN THAT ARE REALLY FUELING PROGRESSIVE SOCIAL CHANGE IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND I THINK THAT INVESTMENTS IN WHITE WOMEN REALLY NEED TO BE THE FROSTING ON TOP OF THE CAKE.

AMONG, OVER REALLY DEEPER INVESTMENTS IN YEAR ROUND ENGAGEMENT IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

HE FALSE LINES BETWEEN MODERATE AND PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS AND RACIAL UNDER TONES AROSE WHEN MINORITY HOUSE LEADER NANCY PELOSI REVIEWED CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE MAXINE WATERS FOR DISPARAGING COMMENTS SHE MADE TOWARD DONALD TRUMP.

I THINK IT WAS UNFORTUNATE.

I THINK THAT MAXINE WATERS WAS STEPPING UP INTO A POSITION OF RIGHTFUL AND APPROPRIATE CRITIQUE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.

AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY STAND BEHIND OUR LEADERS THAT STAND UP FOR THE VALUES THAT ARE SUPPOSEDLY ESPOUSED BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND BY THE LARGER PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT.

AND SO I, I'M NOT SURE IF I THINK IT'S REFLECTIVE OF A LARGER RIFT, BUT I THINK THAT IN THE FUTURE WE REALLY NEED TO STAND BEHIND THOSE THOSE LEADERS THAT DO SPEAK UP FOR OUR VALUES.

THE PROGRESSIVE WING'S PLEA FOR A LEFTWARD SHIFT IN THE PARTY HAS BEEN MET WITH RESISTANCE AMONG MORE MODERATE DEMOCRATS.

WOULD SUCH A PUSH DRIVE DEMOCRATIC VICTORIES?

WE'RE IN A MOMENT WHERE PEOPLE REALLY WANT BOLD ACTION.

AND SO I THINK THE THE UM ASSESSMENT OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY MOVING LEFTWARD IS IN SOME WAYS INSUFFICIENT FOR THE MOMENT.

I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THIS IS A TIME WHERE PEOPLE ARE WANTING BOLD PROPOSALS, RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT THEY FEEL IS STATUS QUO OR KIND OF THE OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS.

AND SO I THINK IT'S LESS ABOUT KIND OF THE THE LABELS OF PROGRESSIVE, CONSERVATIVE, LEFT, RIGHT, AND REALLY ABOUT WHO'S GONNA MAKE DRAMATIC CHANGE IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN REALLY FEEL THAT IN THEIR OWN LIVES.

SO JOE, YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS.

DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY CAN WIN IF IT DUMPS WHATEVER IT THINKS WHITE WOMEN VOTE FOR THE PARTY FOR AND INDICATORS MORE TO?

WHAT WOMEN OF COLOR WANT?

WHICH I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S MORE ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE, LET'S SAY ABORTION RIGHTS.

>> WHAT I SEE HAPPENING IS ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND, IS THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE WORKING TOGETHER OF WHITE WOMEN AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND WOMEN OF COLOR.

I SEE THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENING DISTRICT TO DISTRICT OF RACES THAT I KNOW ABOUT.

SO I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT HAPPENING ON A PRACTICAL LEVEL.

IT MIGHT BE MORE OF A THEORETICAL ARGUMENT.

I AGREE WITH THE VOICE THAT WAS JUST THERE SAYING PEOPLE WANT TO SEE A BOLD MOVEMENT AND A BOLD CHANGE IS AND I THINK WHOEVER BRINGS THAT IN THAT DISTRICT WILL BE THE WINNER.

>> BUT IS THAT CODE FOR WHAT JULIE KOEHLER WAS SAYING WAS REALLY LET'S GO MORE BERNIE AND LESS MAINSTREAM DEMOCRAT?

>> I THINK THAT DEPENDS ON THE AREA, BUT I DO THINK THAT IN GENERAL, WE'RE ALWAYS MOVING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER LEST.

IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT JUST WON IN IN-ISH MALICIOUS, SAY GRETCHEN WHITMER, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE IS ADVOCATING FOR NOW WHEN SHE WAS SORT OF MORE THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE ARE MUCH TO THE LEFT OF WHERE WE WOULD HAVE BEEN, SAY , FIVE YEARS AGO.

>> AND YOU DO A LOT OF REPUBLICAN STRATEGIZING.

DO YOU THINK THAT MOVING, CATER ING MORE TO PEOPLE OF COLOR AND LESS TO WHITE VOTERS IS A GOOD IDEA FOR THE DEMOCRATS?

>> IF MAXINE WATERS IS GOING TO BE THE FACE OF THAT MOVEMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE.

IF DAWN EDWARDS WERE THE FACE OF THAT MOVEMENT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE.

WATERS EXTRAVAGANT TREATMENT THAT SHE'S GOING TO TAKE THE PARTY DOWN THE TUBES.

>> DO YOU AGREE?

>> I DON'T AGREE.

>> YOU WERE IN THE HOUSE WITH HER.

>> I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT AT ALL.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT MAXINE SPEAKS TO A PARTICULAR ENERGY AROUND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT NANCY PELOSI HAS TO DO, HER JOB IS TO RUN AND WIN IN ALL OF THESE DISTRICTS.

AND I THINK IT'S HE A DIFFERENT KIND OF CHALLENGE.

I MEAN, WHAT I LOOK AT IS WHAT JULIE WAS DISCUSSING.

WHAT DO PEOPLE CARE ABOUT?

AND WHAT USED TO BE LEFT A LONG TIME AGO REALLY IS NOT.

IT'S MAINSTREAM.

IT'S WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT HEALTHCARE AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO RAISE WAGES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR CHILDREN.

WHAT ARE REDOING ABOUT WAGE STAGNATION AND CREATING JOBS?

THESE THINGS ARE NOT LEFT ANYMORE.

THEY'RE MAINSTREAM.

AND I THINK THE MORE THAT CANDIDATES ON THE GROUND RUN TO THOSE ISSUES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT LABEL THEY'RE UNDER.

>> SO THOSE ISSUES MAY BE RIGHT, BUT THE SOLUTIONS THAT THE LEFT IS BRIDGING ARE VERY WRONG, PARTICULARLY SOCIALIST.

THERE'S A REASON WHY SUPPORT AMONG BLACK WOMEN AND BLACKS OVERALL FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DOUBLED.

SINCE HE'S BEEN IN OFFICE, THERE'S A REASON.

WHY?

BECAUSE UNEMPLOYMENT IS DROPPING YOU'RE SEEING TAX CUTS ACTUALLY START TO HIT -- >> PATRICE MAINLY.

>> WOMEN ARE SUPPORTING DEMOCRATS.

THIS IS JUST LIKE NOT EVEN TRUE.

>> WAIT.

LET HER FINISH.

>> LET ME REFER YOU TO A POLL IN I THINK 2016, THE SISTER VOTE POLL, WHICH LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF BLACK WOMEN WHO ARE DID HE IF HE CANNING FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE THEY HAD BEEN IGNORED.

AND THEY WERE NOT NECESSARILY MOVING REPUBLICAN.

THEY WERE MOVING INDEPENDENT.

SO I THINK THE ISSUES, YOUR ISSUES ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

WE WANTED TO SEA WAGES RISE.

YOU WANT TO SEE GREATER OPPORTUNITY.

BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF BLACK WOMEN WHO ARE JUST BROUGHT INTO THE FREE COLLEGE, FREE HEALTHCARE, FREE EVERYTHING WHEN REALLY, OPPORTUNITY IS WHAT ALLOWS US TO LIFT OUR VOTES HIGHER THAN JUST THE GOVERNMENT KEEPING ME AT THE BOTTOM, BUT MOVING THE BOTTOM UP JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.

>> WELL, I THINK WE'LL WAIT FOR THE ELECTION RESULTS TO SPEAK TO WHERE IT IS THAT BLACK WOMEN ARE BLACK WOMEN, BLACK PEOPLE ARE REALLY LEADING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

>> 90% FOR HILLARY.

>> EXACTLY.

AND THAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE, ESPECIALLY UNDER AN ADMIN ADMINISTRATION THAT IS CONSTANTS LY ATTACKING PEOPLE OF COLOR AT EVERY SINGLE LEVEL.

>> IT IS NOT CONSTANTSLY ATTACKING PEOPLE OF COLOR AT EVERY SINGLE LEVEL.

GIVE ME A BREAK.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

BLACK SUPPORT FOR TRUMP IS RISING.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, ALSO, TO SAY WE'LL FIND OUT -- >> YEAH, BUT WHEN YOU SAY IT'S RISING, IT'S COMING FROM THE FLOOR.

>> IT WAS LOWER WITH ROMNEY.

TO SEE THE INCREASE, YOU HAVE CELEBRITIES LIKE CAN I CAN'T WEST WHO NOT EVERYBODY AGREES WITH, BUT HE'S MAKING IT OKAY TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET AS BLACK CONSERVATIVES.

I THINK THERE'S SOME HEADWAY BEING MADE.

>> AND ONE FINAL WORD FROM ME.

WHEN YOU STAND ON THE FLOOR OF THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION, AS I HAVE DONE MANY TIMES, YOU FEEL LIKE A MINORITY THERE.

SO MANY PEOPLE OF COLOR THERE.

AND WHEN YOU STAND ON THE FLOOR OF THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION, THERE ARE HARDLY ANY PEOPLE OF COLOR.

AND IT'S THE VAST MAJORITY ARE WHITE PEOPLE.

SO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY REALLY HAS IT OVER THE REPUBLICANS IN THAT REGARD.

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