
Florida Amendment 3, Adult Personal Use of Marijuana
Season 2024 Episode 18 | 57m 51sVideo has Closed Captions
Dr. Jessica Spencer & Steve Vancore participate in a candidate forum
Florida Amendment 3, Adult Personal Use of Marijuana. Dr. Jessica Spencer, Director for Advocacy no. 3 & Steve Vancore, Smart & Safe Florida participate in a candidate forum.
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Florida Amendment 3, Adult Personal Use of Marijuana
Season 2024 Episode 18 | 57m 51sVideo has Closed Captions
Florida Amendment 3, Adult Personal Use of Marijuana. Dr. Jessica Spencer, Director for Advocacy no. 3 & Steve Vancore, Smart & Safe Florida participate in a candidate forum.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipWHO YOU ARE, HOW YOU GOT TO BE ON THIS PANEL AND WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE OR EXPERTISE IS WITH THE QUESTION OF MARIJUANA THAT GOT YOU HERE TODAY.
DR. SPENCER I WILL GO AHEAD AND START WITH YOU.
>> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO TALK ABOUT THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE AND TOPIC HERE IN THE STATE.
I HAVE 24 YEARS IN THE SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION, INTERVENTION, AND TREATMENT FIELD.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME IT IS A PASSION PROJECT OF MINE.
IN GETTING PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS I FIND THEM FASCINATING.
AND IT IS SUPPORTED UNDERSTAND HOW SUBSTANCE USE AND AMENDMENTS AFFECT FLORIDIANS HERE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH NOW ON TO STEVE VANCORP.
>> HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH MEDICAL MARIJUANA SINCE ITS INCEPTION I'VE BEEN IN AND AROUND THE STATE SINCE THE 1980S DESPITE MY YOUTHFUL GOOD LOOKS.
AND WORKING ON CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN AS PASSIONATE ABOUT ONE AS I HAVE BEEN ABOUT THIS BUT NOT BECAUSE I AM A PERSON CONSUMES MARIJUANA, BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN THE DANGERS OF ILLEGAL WHAT IT IS DOING TO OUR KIDS, TO OUR CULTURE AND I THINK IT IS TIME TO TAKE IT OFF THE STREETS TO PUT IT INTO A SAFE REGULATED MARKET.
>> THANK YOU, STEVEN THAT TAKES CARE OF ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS.
ACTUALLY TO BEGIN THE QUESTION WE WILL BEGIN FIRST WITH TOM.
>> WE WILL DO SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED MR VANCORE.
LEGALIZED THE RECREATIONAL USE OF MARIJUANA?
>> TOM, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION PRINT WE CAN SEE GOOD EXAMPLES AND BAD EXAMPLES LET ME GIVE YOU TWO THAT STAND OUT.
CALIFORNIA OVER TAXED IT HANDED OUT LICENSES LIKE PEZ DISPENSERS WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE ILLICIT MARKET, A DECREASE IN LEGAL SALES.
ALSO, IT IS VERY UNREGULATED.
I THINK YOU NEED TO LEARN FOR THAT EXAMPLE.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A BAD EXAMPLE IS NEW YORK THAT LIKEWISE OVERTAXED IT, NO SURPRISE CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK OVER TAXI THINGS THAT MADE IT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE FOR THE ILLICIT MARKET TO CONTINUE TO EXIST FOR THE LESSONS WE CAN LEARN ARE PROPERLY REGULATED PRINT WE TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN MASSACHUSETTS WHERE LABS, THE INDEPENDENT LABS WERE NOT QUITE SO INDEPENDENT SO PEOPLE WERE DOING LAB SHOPPING.
WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN LABS MAKE SURE THEY ARE STATE CERTIFIED SO WHAT YOU ARE GETTING IS WHAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE GETTING PAID BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE SEEING MORE, THIS IS NOT SAYING IT.
FOR EXAMPLE AUGUST 21ST OF THIS YEAR THE ATTY.
GEN.
ISSUED A WARNING ABOUT MORE AND MORE MARIJUANA BEING LACED WITH DEADLY DRUGS LIKE FENTANYL.
TWO YEARS AGO, TOM, WE HAD THREE PEOPLE DIE IN GASTON COUNTY ON THE SAME DAY CONSUMING MARIJUANA.
NO MATTER WHERE PEOPLE STAND ON THIS I THINK THEY CAN'T AGREE, WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT SMOKING MARIJUANA SHOULD NOT BE A DEATH SENTENCE PRINT NOR, LIKE THE GOV.
SAID, HIS WORDS, NO ONE SHOULD GO TO JAIL FOR SMOKING A JOINT BUT I AGREE ON BOTH OF THOSE POINTS THAT IS WHAT AMENDMENT THREE DESPERATE.
>> DR. SPENCER TAKE ON THAT QUESTION?
>> CERTAINLY AND OTHER STATES THAT HAVE LEGALIZED RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA WE SEE AN INCREASE IN CAR CRASHES WE SEE INCREASES ON OUR SOCIAL SERVICES, EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS.
THERE IS NO WAY TO MAKE OUR MARIJUANA SAFER FOR THE IDEA AND THE CONCEPT OF SAFE AND REGULATED MARKET IS NOT WORKING IN OTHER STATES.
WE ARE SEEING TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS WITH THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY AND OTHER STATES THAT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY AFFECT FLORIDIANS HERE.
AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
ALTHOUGH MR VANCORE.
IS TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE REGULATIONS IN CASE WE DO NOT HAVE PROPER MECHANISMS, WHICH WE WILL GET INTO, THAT WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THIS AMENDMENT TO.
>> AS WE ARE WITH YOU DR. SPENCER, FOR A ONE MINUTE RESPONSE, WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ON SOCIETY AS A WHOLE WHEN IT COMES TO LEGALIZING RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA?
>> CHRISTINA NOT ONLY WITH MARIJUANA AND ALCOHOL WHEN WE SEE LEGAL SUBSTANCES THAT ARE INTOXICATING INCREASED IN OUR SOCIETY WE ARE SEEING INCREASED YOUTH USE DESPITE WHAT MR VANCORE.
WILL TALK ABOUT WE DON'T SEE THAT.
WE DO SEE IT WOULD SEND A MESSAGE TO OUR YOUTH IT IS OKAY.
WE SEE INCREASED ALCOHOL USE AND TOBACCO USE IN AREAS WHERE IT IS THERE.
AND IT IS THE WRONG MESSAGE.
WE DO NOT NEED TO LEGALIZED AND OTHER TOXIC AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR CHILDREN AND WHAT IS SAFE FOR THEM MARIJUANA IS NOT SAFE.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT YESTERDAY YET THAT IS LOW BUT IS HE NOT AT ALL WHAT IS ON THE TABLE HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HIGH POTENCY PRODUCTS THAT ARE DANGEROUS TO YOUNG PEOPLE'S BRAINS.
>> MR VANCORE.
AND INTOXICATING SUBSTANCES OF ALL SORTS WHETHER ALCOHOL OR MARIJUANA.
WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN TO KEEP IT AWAY FROM USE.
WHEN IT COMES TO ADULTS 21 AND OLDER.
KEEP IN MIND THE AMENDMENT ONLY TALKS ABOUT 21 AND OLDER.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM OTHER STATES THAT HAVE GONE TO RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA OR ILLEGAL MARIJUANA MARKET.
AND THIS IS NOT ME SAYING IT.
THIS IS THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL THIS IS THE SEPSIS ABUSE MENTAL HEALTH AGENCY.
THIS IS THE INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION.
THEY ALL CONCLUDE BY LOOKING AT THE DATA WE NEED LEGALIZED MARIJUANA.
YOU REDUCE, I WANT TO REPEAT, YOU REDUCE TEEN HE SAID.
WHEN YOU FIRST HEAR YOU SAY HOW CAN THAT BE?
VERY SIMPLY YOU TAKE IT OFF THE STREETS WERE EASILY ACCESSIBLE.
AND YOU PUT IT INTO A REGULATED MARKET WHERE SOMEBODY HAS TO WALK INTO A STORE AND SHOW THEIR ID.
I PROMISE YOU, THE STREETCORNER DRUG DEALER IS NOT ASKING FOR AN IT.
THAT IS WHY TODAY ONE OF THE BEFORE 2011100 PERCENT OF MARIJUANA CONSUMED WAS SOLD ILLEGALLY NOW 95 PERCENT IS IN A REGULATED MARKET.
>> SEGMENT, SIR.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: WAS THE THAT IT LEVELS OFF DOES NOT BRING IT TO 0.
THIS CONCEPT IN THIS IDEA WE WILL HAVE USED USE REDUCED, IT DOES NOT HAPPEN.
IT SIMPLY DOES NOT HAPPEN AND WE WOULD BE COMBATING THAT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
BECAUSE THE OTHERS HAVE INDICATED WILL TRIPLE THE MARIJUANA MARKET HERE.
WHICH AGAIN, TRIPLES THE ABILITY FOR YOUTH GO YOUTH ARE DRINKING ALCOHOL.
>> BEFORE WE MOVE ON MR VANCORE.
CAN YOU CITE ANY SPECIFIC DATA POINTS HERE SHOWING A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN USEFUL USE OF MARIJUANA IN STATES THAT HAVE LEGALIZED RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA?
>> Christopher Shorter: 11 PERCENT REDUCTION IN COLORADO AND YOU ARE RIGHT.
YOU WILL NEVER GET AWAY FROM YOUTH DOING IT.
AND WE SHOULD ALL AGREE, AND SHE AGREES, TOO.
IN THE STATE TO MOVE TO OF RECREATIONAL MARKET, YOUTH USAGE HAS GONE DOWN.
I CITED THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL THAT CONCLUDED THAT.
SAMAAND THE JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN SAID THAT STATES I WANT TO RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA DID SOMETHING LIKE AMENDMENT THREE, USAGE WENT DOWN.
IT IS A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WHAT ALSO HAPPENS, THOSE USING IT IF USING AND REGULATED MARKET IT IS SAFER.
IT DOES NOT CONTAIN THINGS LIKE FENTANYL, KETAMINE, METH, , YOU DO NOT SEE THAT IN A SAFE AND REGULATED MARKET.
>> WERE MOVING ON TO THAT.
>> I WILL TAKE THE NEXT QUESTION AND STEVE VANCORE YOU SPOKE LAST I WILL ASK YOU TO ADDRESS THIS FIRST.
MY QUESTION IS ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL HEALTH IMPACTS OF RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA, IF NOT, WHY NOT?
WHAT MY FOCUS FIRST IS ON KIDS I CONCERNED ABOUT THE CURRENT MARKET.
I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT DR. ROLF MASSULA, SAID THAT 90 PERCENT HAVE DANGEROUS ADDITIVES DANGEROUS LIKE CADMIUM, LEAD, IT ALSO CONTAINS ENHANCERS KETAMINE, MATH, FENTANYL.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE BUYING IT ON THE STREETS.
RIGHT NOW IN AMERICA 16 ADULTS IF THEY REGULARLY USE MARIJUANA.
IT IS PROBABLY HIGHER BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO EMBED IT.
INSTEAD OF BREAKING THE LAW TO GET MARIJUANA IS HAVE THEM GO TO A SAFER REGULATED MARKET FOR THE MARIJUANA IS LAB TESTED BY AN INDEPENDENT LAB.
RIGHT NOW TODAY IN FLORIDA THE MMTC OPERATING HAVE TO SEND STAFF TO INDEPENDENT LABS FOR TESTING AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH DOES RANDOM CHECKS TO MAKE SURE IT IS SAFE.
MY CONCERNED ABOUT SOMEONE SMOKING MARIJUANA?
IT IS SAFER THEN OPIOIDS.
200,000 PEOPLE DIED LAST YEAR FROM ALCOHOL POISONING.
ZE0 DIED FROM THE EFFECTS OF CANNABIS.
I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT STATISTIC, JIM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING AMENDMENT THREE WILL HELP MAKE SAFER FOR PEOPLE TO DO SO.
>> SO CONVERSELY, WHAT IS NOT BEING TALKED ABOUT ARE THOSE INDIVIDUALS SUFFERING FROM CANNABIS USE DISORDERS THAT HAVE TAKEN THEIR LIVES WHILE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MARIJUANA.
THE INCREASED MENTAL HEALTH OF EXPRESSING IN OTHER STATES FROM THIS SAFE AND REGULATED MARKET.
THERE ARE MAJOR ISSUES WERE NOT HAVING I CONVERSATION ABOUT LOW POTENCY MIRRORS WANTED.
STEVEN I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING THAT.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HIGH POTENCY PRODUCTS 35 PERCENT THC.
35 PERCENT THC IN THE RAW WHEN LOOKING AT PAVING AND OIL PROJECT ABOUT 75-95 PERCENT THC.
THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE WHEN LOOKING AT THE HEALTH EFFECTS.
IN THE CONCEPT, AGAIN, AT THE SELF SAFE AND SELF REGULATED, THE SAME TYPES OF CHEMICALS ARE BEING USED IN THE PROCESSING THAT IS MANUFACTURERS.
LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD IF WE FIND OUT ONE OF THOSE ARE BAD FOR US WE HAVE NO RECOURSE BECAUSE THE AUTHOR SPECIFICALLY WROTE IN CRIMINAL AND CIVIL IMMUNITY FOR THEMSELVES AS AN INDUSTRY.
WHICH WOULD COVER ANYTHING WE WOULD FIND POTENTIALLY HARMFUL IN THEIR PRODUCTS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TOM, I WILL THROW IT BACK TO YOU.
>> Andrea Bailey: TEAM THIS IS A ONE MINUTE RESPONSE AND DR. SPENCER WILL START WITH YOU.
DO YOU AGREE WITH CONCERNS ABOUT MARIJUANA BEING A GATEWAY DRUG.
IF SO WHY AND WHY NOT?
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: IN THE FIELD I SEE THAT, OF COURSE IT NEEDS TO BE STATED NOT EVERYONE THAT USES MARIJUANA USES OTHER SUBSTANCES.
I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.
I TELL YOU 100 PERCENT OF THE INDIVIDUALS I SAW IN TREATMENT DID NOT START WITH HARDENED DRESSER STARTED WITH ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, YOUR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND MARIJUANA.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT IS THREE OF THOSE I MENTIONED WERE LEGAL SUBSTANCES.
SO WE KNOW THAT INDIVIDUALS START WITH THESE ITEMS, THE SUBSTANCES AND MOVE ON TO OTHER THINGS.
IT MAY NOT BE EVERYONE BUT FOR THE ONE IT IS THAT IS A PROBLEM.
>> MR VANCORE.?
>> I AGREE WITH DR. SPENCER SHE IS A CLINICIAN SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.
BUT I ALSO AGREE IF WE GET IT OFF THE STREETS IT WILL NOT CONTAIN THE REGULATED MARKET.
IT IS LAB TESTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE ONLY BUYING MARIJUANA NOT LACED WITH KETAMINE, WITH PHP AND FENTANYL.
WHAT YOU LOOK AT HERE IS WHERE IS IT A GATEWAY DRUG?
IT IS A GATEWAY DRUG AMONG TEENS.
AND SHE IS RIGHT.
SOME START TOBACCO, SOME START ALCOHOL, SOME START MARIJUANA SOME START OTHER THINGS.
BUT LET'S WORK TO MAKE IT LESS ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE TEENS WHAT DOES NOT BECOME A GATEWAY DRUG.
YOU TAKE OUT THE STREETS, TAKE IT OUT OF THEIR HANDS YOU DON'T MAKE IT SO ACCESSIBLE.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT IS ALSO A GATEWAY PROBLEM.
IN ORDER TO NOT CONSUME MARIJUANA AS A YOUNG ADULT AND OLD ADULT YOU FIRST HAVE TO BREAK THE LAW.
THAT IS A GATEWAY TO LAWBREAKING AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO START.
STATELESS REGULATED.
TOM IF YOU CHOOSE TO SMOKE YOU KNOW HOW TO BREAK THE LAW TO DO SO.
AND NOW HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE RESULT.
>> IN TALKING ABOUT TEENAGERS, TEENAGERS ARE NOT ABLE TO PURCHASE THE PRODUCT THEY WILL BE BREAKING THE LAW BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE 21 AND UP TO DO SO.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT QUESTION WILL BE RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES QUESTION.
LITTLE FLORIDA.
TODAY IS REPORTING THAT THE STATE SURGEON GENERAL IS TELLING DOCTORS TO PLACE PEDIATRIC PATIENTS ON ROUTINE DRUG SCREENING PROGRAMS.
BECAUSE HE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE RISE IN USE, BY KIDS, OF MARIJUANA.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS COMES TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION.
DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE BY THE DOCTOR, DR. SPENCER LSK TO GO FIRST.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: JESSICA IS TOTALLY FINE.
I THINK IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE.
THAT WILL SEND ME DOWN AN AVENUE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH IS THAT COST INDIVIDUALS BUT I DO NOT THINK IS NECESSARILY A BAD IDEA YOU'RE LOOKING AT ATHLETES AND YOU DON'T WANT THEM USING SUBSTANCES AND THEN BEING SICK ON THE FIELD.
>> Jim Rosica: STEVE VANCORE?
>> Steven Vancore: I DRUG TESTED MY CHILDREN WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG TO BE SURE.
I THINK IT PARENTS FEEL THAT IS NECESSARY IF THEY SUSPECTED CHILD.
THEIR TEENAGER OF ENGAGING IN EITHER ALCOHOL, TOBACCO OR THC PRODUCTS SHOULD TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
SO I AGREE.
ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO PROTECT KIDS AND TAKE THEM OFF OF ANY INTOXICATING SUBSTANCE IS A GOOD THING.
>> Jim Rosica: AS A QUICK FOLLOW-UP, SHOULD WE ALSO BE MAKING OUR KIDS PERFORM BREATHALYZER TESTS?
>> Christopher Shorter: THAT IS UP TO THE PARENT IF A PARENT SUSPECTS A TEENAGER IS DRINKING ABSOLUTELY.
THAT IS A TOOL THEY CAN USE TO GIVE THEM ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW PATH.
>> Jim Rosica: MS. SPENCER DO YOU AGREE?
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: I AGREE IS WERE TRYING TO INSTITUTE AN ACROSS-THE-BOARD.
PERHAPS I HEARD YOU AND GREATLY.
I AGREE WITH RANDOM DRUG TESTING IF IT IS YOUR CHILD.
AND SHE SAID IT IS RESPONSIBLE PARENTING.
I DO NOT KNOW IF IT AS A PLACE IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.
PERHAPS IT DOES.
BUT THEN WHAT?
ARE THEY THEN FUNDING TREATMENTS?
WHAT ARE THEY DOING?
>> Jim Rosica: I AM STAYING WITH THE ARTICLE BUT THE QUICK READ IS HE IS ASKING DOCTORS TO TEST UNDERAGE PATIENTS FOR MARIJUANA USE.
SPECIFICALLY AS A PART OF TREATMENT, AS A PART OF A VISIT.
WE WILL READ THAT WHOLE STORY.
>> Steven Vancore: YOU KNOW YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TEST?
A KID WHO OVERDOSED ON FENTANYL.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: DO THEY WANT TO SEE IF POLLY'S YOU SUBSTANCE.
>> Andrea Bailey: TEAM NOW THAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP IS FENTANYL LACED A PROBLEM BECAUSE SOME OFFICIALS ON THE FRONT LINES OF THE EPIDEMIC HAVE NOT SEEN DEATHS, ACCORDING TO THE RECENT SENTINEL AND SOME ARE CALLING IT A MYTH.
YOU HAVE A MINUTE.
>> Steven Vancore: I READ THE STORY AND HE GOT IT WRONG.
THERE WAS AN ARREST A MONTH AND A HALF AGO IN PUTNAM COUNTY.
A GUY HAD A TRUCKLOAD - TRUCKLOAD OF MARIJUANA LACED WITH UNOPENED TALKING WITH SHERIFF YOUNG WHO DIED WHILE SMOKING MARIJUANA.
TELL THOSE THREE FAMILIES ONE OF WAS A BROTHER OF A FRIEND OF MINE.
TELL ME.
ON AUGUST 21ST IMAGE OF THIS EARLIER.
OUR OWN ATTY.
GEN. AGAINST AMENDMENT THREE ISSUED A WARNING.
THAT SHE AND HER OFFICE, AS THE TOP LAW ENFORCEMENT.
ISSUED A WARNING THAT MORE AND MORE MARIJUANA IS LACED WITH DIGITAL.
IT IS VERY REAL, TIME.
AGAIN WE HAVE THREE DEATHS OF THE BLOCK FROM THE STUDIO AS A DIRECT RESULT OF MARIJUANA, IT WAS WHAT IS CALLED A HOT BATCH AND THEY HAVE BEEN JILL IN THE OVERDOSED.
>> JESSICA SPENCER?
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: I BELIEVE IT IS A POLICY IT IS VERY MONGERING.
THE DATA I HAVE SEEN DOES NOT SUPPORT IT.
SO FAR AS TO SAY SEVERAL WEEKS AGO MR VANCORE.
THAT SAYS THERE IS MARIJUANA OR FEDERAL LACED MARIJUANA.
I WOULD TELL EVERYBODY TO READ THE LATEST LANCET ARTICLE THAT SAYS THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE.
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING IS POLYSUBSTANCE USE.
IT IS VERY MONGERING ONCE AGAIN TO PUT THIS FALSE NARRATIVE OUT THERE IS IT WILL BE SAFE IF IT IS IN THE INDUSTRY.
LEGALIZATION DOES NOT DO OVER THE BLACK MARKET WE SEE IT IN EVERY STATE THAT HAS LEGALIZE RECREATIONAL OR ONE AND A HIGH USE OF POLYSUBSTANCE USE.
>> Steven Vancore: MAY I RESPOND TO THAT?
>> 30 SECONDS.
>> Woman: TEAM COLORADO IS AN EXAMPLE IN 2011100 PERCENT OF THE MARIJUANA SOLD ON THE STREETS WAS SOLD ILLEGALLY ANYONE CONSUMING IT IN COLORADO WAS BUYING IT ILLEGALLY PRINTED A 95 PERCENT IS SOLD THROUGH A SAFE REGULATED MARKET.
IT WAS NOT ME ISSUING THE MORNING WITH THE ATTY.
GEN.
ISSUING THE ONE IT WAS NOT ME SAYING 90 PERCENT OF WE CONFISCATED IN THE STREET HAD DANGEROUS, IT WAS DR. ROLF MASSOLI.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: SELLING SUBSTANCES IS NOT INHERENTLY 100 PRESENT AT THE TIME IT IS BEING SOLD ILLEGALLY.
SO DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL.
QUICK THANK YOU WE ARE RUNNING BEHIND SCHEDULE SO WE WILL MOVE ON I WILL SKIP AHEAD TO QUESTIONS ABOUT MARIJUANA AND CRIME.
VERY DIRECTLY, WILL MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION DECREASE OR INCREASE CRIME IN YOUR VIEW?
JESSICA SPENCER YOU CAN GO FI FIRST.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: I THINK IT DOES NOT GO AWAY WITH THE BLACK MARKET THIS IS NOT HOW YOU EFFECTIVELY GET AWAY WITH THE BLACK MARKET OF SELLING SUBSTANCES.
THERE IS THIS NARRATIVE ABOUT DECRIMINALIZATION THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DECRIMINALIZE PURDUE AFTER DARK ADJUSTERS REPORT?
STEVE AND I ABSOLUTELY GET ON BOARD WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT JUSTICE REFORM.
THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT DO THAT.
THIS IS NOT DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA AND MARIJUANA CHARGES.
IN THE CASE I BELIEVE FLORIDIANS ARE LOOKING AT AND ARE CONFUSED AT THIS POINT.
I WANT TO MENTION THERE IS NOT NEARLY THIS NUMBER, THIS HUGE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS BEING ARRESTED FOR CIVIL MARIJUANA POSSESSION.
IT DOES NOT HAPPEN.
THEY HAVE MULTIPLE OTHER CHARGES OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT IS NOT ROLLING AROUND TOWN TRYING TO WRITE SOMEONE UP OR PUT SOMEONE OVER SIMPLE MARIJUANA POSSESSION IT DOES NOT HAPPEN.
IT IS COUPLE THEY CAN BE A BPO OR A VOP.
IT CAN BE A MULTITUDE OF THINGS.
>> STEVE VANCORE 24 PERCENT ON THE STREET ARRESTOR FROM POSSESSION.
IT WILL ABSOLUTELY REDUCE CRIME.
FOR STARTERS IT WOULD REDUCE THE 22 PERCENT OF ARREST OUT OF THE BOX.
BUT SECONDLY, THE DATA CLEARLY SHOWS UNEQUIVOCALLY LENS GOES DOWN AND GANG VIOLENCE RELATED TO DRUG SELLING GOES DOWN.
I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE STATE EXCEPT CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK WERE CRIME WENT UP.
THERE ARE 24 STATES PLUS WASHINGTON DC THAT HAVE LEGALIZED IT.
AND IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES TWO, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE IF YOU WANT.
THE CRIME RATE HAS GONE DOWN RELATED TO MARIJUANA.
OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT IS NOW NO LONGER ILLEGAL.
BUT WHEN YOU SEE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE GO DOWN, GANG VIOLENCE GO DOWN.
WHAT IS GANG VIOLENCE GO DOWN YOUR TAKEN OFF THE STREET WITH THE GANGS ARE FIGHTING OVER BREAKING SURE YOU'RE TAKING IT OUT.
PUTTING IT IN A SAFE REGULATED MARKET WHERE PRODUCTS ARE TESTED AND ADULT CAN GO IN AND PURCHASE FOR THEIR OWN LIMITS, A LIMITED AMOUNT ONLY THREE OUNCES.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: I AM HEARING NOW 22 PERCENT, IN A LOT OF THESE DEBATES I HEAR DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES AND NUMBERS ARE NOT ABOUT PEOPLE BEING ARRESTED FOR CIVIL POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA.
IN AND OF THOSE I HEARING ANY DELINEATION BETWEEN HOW OLD SOMEONE WAS, IF OVER 21 OR OTHERS, IF THERE WERE OTHER CHARGES THAT THERE WOULD BE NOT JUST AND WILL MARIJUANA POSSESSION.
SO WE ARE THROWING WITH NO BACKUP.
NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN BROKEN DOWN AND NOT SEEN ONE SINGLE CRA CRIMINAL REPORT AFFIDAVIT THAT WOULD TELL ME WHAT THE ACTUAL CHARGES ARE.
OR IF IT WAS A SIMPLE POSSESSION CHARGE.
I HAVE SEEN NO INFORMATION FROM THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND NO CASE NUMBERS TO VERIFY AND BACK AT THIS 22 PERCENT.
OR 16,000 WHICH IS ACTUALLY.0072 OF THE POPULACE OF FLORIDA.
>> I GOT TO PUT A PIN IN IT RIGHT THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO TOWN.
>> WE HAVE A FOLLOW-UP TO SOMETHING YOU JUST SAID, JESSICA WHAT ARE THE SOCIAL JUSTICE IMPLICATIONS OF LEGALIZING RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO PAST CRIMINAL CONVICTION FOR MARIJUANA RELATED OFFENSES, HOW DOES THAT ALL PLAY IN TOGETHER?
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: I DO NOT SEE ANY ANGUISH IN THE MEMO THAT WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE TO EXPUNGE.
IN TALKING ABOUT CIVIL MARIJUANA POSSESSION THAT IS A MISDEMEANOR YOU COULD ALREADY AND HAVE EITHER EXPUNGE OR REMOVE FROM YOUR RECORD.
>> STEVE VANCORE.
>> ONE PASSING AND YOU HAVE ONLY ONE SUBJECT AT A TIME DO WE WISH WE COULD PUT A EXPUNGEMENT SOME SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES ABSOLUTELY.
YOU GOT TO TAKE THESE THINGS ONE STEP AT A TIME, ONCE YOU LEGALIZE IT FOUR ADULTS AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOU ARE SAYING ADULT CAN POSSESS LIMITED QUANTITIES SAFELY PURCHASE FROM A REGULATED MARKET.
AS A RESULT OF THAT YOU WILL SEE THE GOOD THINGS THAT FOLLOW FROM THAT, RIGHT?
SO YOU ARE DEALING WITH AN ISSUE WHETHER IT IS REDUCTION IN CRIME, SAFER MARIJUANA ON THE STREETS, REDUCTION OF TEEN YEARS.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS, KIND OF TRAVEL TOGETHER.
>> ATE, I GUESS IT IS BACK TO ME.
WHAT REGULATIONS SHOULD BE PUT IN PLACE IF RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA IS LEGALIZED FOR ADULTS.
STEVE GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS ONE FIRST YEAR ONE MINUTE 30.
>> FOR STARTERS WE SHOULD REGULATE WHAT IS KNOWN AS TIME, PLACE AND MANNER RESTRICTIONS.
THERE HAS BEEN A BILL OF FORMER REPUBLICAN CHAIR AND STATE SEN. JOE ROUTERS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T SMELL IT EVERYWHERE.
THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT IS CLEARLY ARTICULATE IT IN THE AMENDMENT TO GET THE LEGISLATURE THE FULL AUTHORITY.
AND WAS NOT EVEN NECESSARY, IN MY OPINION, TO PUT IT IN THERE BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE IS WHAT IS KNOWN AS PLANETARY 30 TO ADOPT.
AND MAKE SURE ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO IS WE CAN PLACE REGULATIONS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE NOT SMOKING IT NEAR SCHOOLS.
THAN NOT SMOKING IT THE STADIUMS, BEACHES, OR PUBLIC PLACES WHERE YOU SMELL IT.
JUST LIKE WE DO WITH TOBACCO.
THE OTHER I THINK WILL BE CRITICAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE DO IN THE RECREATIONAL MARKET.
JUST LIKE WE ARE DOING IN THE MEDICAL MARKET.
TO HAVE STATE CERTIFIED LABS OVERSEEN BY THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CONSUMER SERVICES.
TO MAKE SURE EVERY PRODUCT BEING SOLD IS INDEPENDENTLY LAB TESTED.
TO MAKE SURE IT ONLY CONTAINS A PRODUCT ASSESSES IN THEIR.
AND SEE THE DOSAGE LIMITS.
BECAUSE JESSICA IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, MARIJUANA IS DARKER THAN IT WAS IN THE 60s AND 70s, OF COURSE.
THAT IS WHY LABELING IS SO IMPORTANT SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE CONSUMING.
>> JESSICA SPENCER I WILL ASK YOU.
I WOULD ASK YOU TO ANSWER BUT I WOULD BE CONCERNED YOU THINK THE ANSWER IS MOVED.
BECAUSE THE FOLKS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THIS AMENDMENT THINK THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT ALLOW ROOM TO REGULATE CAN YOU EXPAND?
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: IT IS NOT WE THINK IT IS A FACT.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PLENARY AUTHORITY OF THE LEGISLATURE THEY CAN ONLY WRITE LAWS.
WHETHER IMPLEMENTING BILL OR SUBSEQUENT BILLS CONSISTENT WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE AMENDMENT.
IN FACT IT SAYS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE AMENDMENT.
THE ISSUE WITH PUBLIC SMOKING AS ALL THE OTHER NEEDED TO DO IS WHO IS A LAWYER AND UNDERSTAND HOW CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS WORK.
HE SAID YOU CANNOT DO THAT.
AND THEN THE GOV.
WAS A LAWYER SAID YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
THE IDEA OF PLENARY AUTHORITY SOUNDS GOOD BUT YOU CAN ONLY ENACT A LAW CONSISTENT WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE AMENDMENT.
IS A FACT AND IT IS MOOT IN THAT BACK BECAUSE WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESTRICT AND REGULATE.
THE FACT WE ARE SAYING WHAT WE DO WITH OUR PRODUCTS AND PACKAGING YOU CAN'T.
IN THE AMENDMENT IT IS NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT REGULATING THE PACKAGING OF RECREATIONAL PRODUCTS.
DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE THC PRODUCTS OF MARIJUANA IT ONLY REFERENCES THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA INDUSTRY.
>> LET'S LEAVE THE QUESTION OF REGULATION THE SITE AND ASSESS AS A FOLLOW-UP.
DO YOU THINK THERE SHOULD BE ANY SORT OF PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN PUT IN PLACE IF THIS AMENDMENT PASSES?
I GUESS, STEVE, I WILL START WITH YOU.
ONE MINUTE.
>> Steven Vancore: YES.
>> WHAT WOULD THAT CAMPAIGN LOOK LIKE?
>> Steven Vancore: EDUCATING CONSUMERS TO THE DANGERS OF OVER CONSUMER WHETHER MARIJUANA, ALCOHOL OR TOBACCO IS A GOOD THING.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE FREEDOM STATES.
TO ALLOW ADULTS THAT OVER HALF OF AMERICANS ARE ALLOWED TO CONSUME FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL CONSUMPTION.
BUT AGAIN I THINK DR. SPENCER WOULD AGREE.
IF THIS WERE TO PASS, AND I THINK IT WILL, THAT WE EDUCATE CHILDREN TO THE DANGERS OF USING ANY TYPE OF INTOXICATING SUBSTANCE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT USE OF THE MONEY THOUGH DEGENERATING WHEN WE GO TO LEGAL SALES.
>> JESSICA SPENCER?
>> Christopher Shorter: 30 TO BE AN EDUCATION PLATFORM.
WE LOOKING AT A STRANGE SYSTEM IS TURNED ECONOMIC SYSTEM.
WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT TAXES GENERATED WE COULD LOOK AT COLORADO.
WE LOOK AT $1 IN TAX REVENUE GOES OUT THE WINDOW BECAUSE THERE IS $4.50 IN SOCIAL COST.
WE ARE OPERATING AT A DEFICIT.
TO BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE PUBLIC EDUCATION?
THERE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD.
BUT I ALSO DON'T THINK WE NEED TO LEGALIZE ANOTHER INTOXICATING SUBSTANCE AND SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE STRAIGHT OUT THE GATE TO OUR YOU THAT THIS IS OKAY.
WITHOUT HAVING SOMETHING IN PLACE.
ALTHOUGH WE MAY WANT THE TAX REVENUE TO GO TO PUBLIC EDUCATION WE DO NOT KNOW IT WILL.
BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING LINE, AS IT HAS IN OTHER STATES, WHERE THE MONEY WILL GO.
>> DOWN?
>> Steven Vancore: CAN I RESPOND TO THAT?
>> DID TAKE 30 SECONDS 50 SAID 30 MILLION IT WAS THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT SAYS WILL GENERATE OVER 400 MILLION FOR THE STATE.
THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER WHAT DR. SPENCER IS TALKING ABOUT AND THEY SAID AT LEAST 400 MILLION FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THAT WAS THERE CALL NOT MINE.
>> TOM?
>> Tom Flanagan: THAT PIGGYBACKS TO THE ENTIRE ECONOMICS THAT THE SITUATION.
STATE,'S SPEAKING WITH YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE OF THE AMENDMENT ITSELF THERE ACTUALLY IS AT THE VERY TAIL END AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT MAY BE.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: RIGHT.
>> Tom Flanagan: WHEN YOU GO BACK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT DR. SPENCER WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SOCIAL COST.
WHAT IS THAT TRADE-OFF BETWEEN POTENTIAL TRADE-OFFS GOING IN AND THE SOCIAL COST OF THE AMENDMENT GOING OUT?
>> Christopher Shorter: FIRST OF ALL I THINK THE SOCIAL COST ARE POSITIVE BUT NEITHER DR. SPENCER OR I ARE ECONOMIST.
THE CHIEF ECONOMIST WHO DOES WORK FOR AND REPORT TO THE GOVERNOR, SHE IS THE ONE WHO LED THE TEAM TO EVALUATE THIS INCLUDING PLACES LIKE COLORADO, CALIFORNIA AND OTHER FOLKS WHO MADE MISTAKES IN ENACTING THIS.
IT WAS THEIR THEY PUT ON THE SAID AT LEAST $400 MILLION A YEAR, 200 MILLION THE FIRST YEAR OF TO 400 MILLION THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN AS THEY WANT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT THAT MANY BUT THE COURT SAID YOU CANNOT DO THAT.
IF YOU WANT TO PASS SINGLE SUBJECT.
I THINK A THE REDUCTION AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE REDUCTION IN AUTO INSURANCE RATES, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE POSITIVE THINGS IT WAS THEIR AGENCY NOT ME WHO SAID IT WOULD BE A NET POSITIVE OF 400 MILLION A YEAR IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
IT WAS NOT A NUMBER OF THE CHIEF ECONOMIST FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE GOVERNOR.
>> ALL THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO IS GET THE ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT MEANS THEY DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SOCIAL COST.
AREAS.
SO YES THERE MAY BE THIS IMPACT PANEL THAT HAS A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
THEY DON'T LOOK AT WHAT THE SOCIAL COSTS ARE.
THEY JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THAT THE REVENUE CAN BE GENERATED.
BUT AS I SAID, COLORADO THEY SEEK FOR EVERY DOLLAR GENERATED $4.50 GOES OUT.
THAT IS THE PIECES MISSING IN THE PIECE WE DON'T TALK ABOUT.
>> Jim Rosica: I SAT IN THOSE MEETINGS THEY ABSOLUTELY CONSIDER THE SOCIAL COST.
>> Steven Vancore: THEY CONSIDERED ALL OF THAT IN THEIR EVALUATION I WATCHED IT.
I SAT IN A ROOM OR WATCHED IT.
THEY ABSOLUTELY 100 PERCENT CONSIDER ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: WHAT WAS THE BREAKDOWN?
>> Christopher Shorter: THEY SAID 400 MILLION IN NET REVENUE TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THERE DYMBURT NOT MINE.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: WE RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
>> Jim Rosica: WE TOUCH ON THIS I WILL ASK DIRECTLY.
DO YOU THINK MARIJUANA WILL OR SHOULD BE TAXED?
AND HOW WILL THE TAX REVENUE BE USED SPECIFICALLY IF THE AMENDMENT IS APPROVED?
ACTUALLY, JESSICA SPENCER, I WILL START WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: THIS WOULD BE MORE A JESSICA ANSWER THAN A CAMPAIGN ANSWER STEVE TOUCH ON IT.
MY BACKGROUND IS ON SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT AND PREVENTION SO I WOULD IMAGINE.
AND I WOULD HOPE IS IN OTHER STATES THAT TAX REVENUE WENT TO TREATMENTS.
AS HE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT EDUCATION AS WELL.
THAT IS WHAT I HOPE IT WOULD GO BUT IT IS A GUESSING GAME.
STEVE AND I BOTH CAN'T SAY WHERE IT WILL GO.
WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT TO THE LEGISLATURE AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS A GOOD PLAN FOR FLORIDA.
>> Steven Vancore: NOT A GOOD DEBATE IF WE ARE AGREEING ON SOMETHING.
THE TAX REVENUE WOULD BE UP TO THE LEGISLATURE, WHERE IT WILL GO.
SO WE WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD PUT IT INTO THESE KINDS OF PROGRAMS.
THAT WOULD BENEFIT FLORIDIANS.
WE DON'T PLAY THE GAME WITH A LOTTERY.
BUT REMEMBER, IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TAXES HERE'S WHAT IS CRITICAL.
THE KEY MISTAKE THAT WAS MADE IN CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK, SHOCK, THEY OVERTAXED IT.
AND WHAT HAPPENS YOU CHOOSE THE ECONOMIC FORMULA WERE EASIER TO SAY I DON'T WANT TO PAY SO MUCH I WILL BUY IT ON THE STREET.
YOU WANT TO TAX IT IN GENERATE REVENUES BUT NOT OVER TAX IT IN SEND PEOPLE BACK TO THE ELUSIVE MARKET.
AND JESSICA IS CORRECT, THE ILLICIT MARKET GROUP IN CALIFORNIA A GROUP IN NEW YORK.
FOR THE REASON, IS MORE TO REDUCE NOT INCREASE THE ILLEGAL MARKET.
>> Jim Rosica: THANK YOU.
TOM?
>> Tom Flanagan: THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL TALK ABOUT NEXT THAT ITSELF LEGALIZATION AFFECT YOUNG PEOPLE.
THAT IS THOSE IN THE TEENAGE YEARS WITH LEGALIZATION MAKE MARIJUANA MORE ACCESSIBLE OR HARDER TO GET FOR THEM?
A MINUTE AND A HALF, STEVE?
>> Steven Vancore: CLEARLY THE DATA SHOWS WE TAKE IT OFF THE STREET.
KEEP USING COLORADO AS EXAMPLES.
BEFORE IT WAS LEGAL 100 PERCENT SOLD ON THE STREET PEOPLE SELLING IT NEAR SCHOOLS, NEAR CHURCHES, SELLING IT IN BACK ALLEYS.
NOW 95 PERCENT OF THE SALES ARE THROUGH LEGAL REGULATED MARKETS.
THE DATA IS CRYSTAL CLEAR THIS IS THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL THIS IS SAMSON THAT MONITOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND THE INDEPENDENT JOURNAL FOR THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION.
BECAUSE OF THE BIG THREE.
HAVE ALL SAID WHEN YOU TAKE IT OFF THE STREET YOU MAKE IT LESS ACCESSIBLE IT IS NOT AS BUY AND THEREFORE TEEN USAGE GOES DOWN NOT UP.
>> JESSICA SPENCER?
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: I THINK WE WILL DISAGREE SO WE ARE IN A GOOD PLACE THERE.
I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT HE IS SAYING AT ALL WE SEE INCREASED TEEN USE WE SEE INCREASED USE.
IT IS A SIMPLE FORMULA THAT CAN APPLY TO ANYTHING IN OUR LIVES.
YOU INCREASE ACCESS TO INCREASE AVAILABILITY YOU INCREASE USE.
BY INCREASING ACCESS IS A FACT THESE WILL BE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
YOU READ THE FLORIDA TREND ARTICLE THAT TALKS ABOUT THIS WE A 6 BILLION THEY WILL TRIPLE THE MARKET.
YOU INCREASE ACCESS BECAUSE THAT IS HOW MUCH MORE IS IN OUR STATE.
INCREASING AVAILABILITY WE SEE MORE SHOPS THEY SAY THEY WILL BE THE NEXT WALMART AND CVS, WE ARE SENDING A MESSAGE TO OUR YOUTH THAT IT IS OKAY.
IT IS THE SAME REASON WE ARE CONCERNED WHEN WE SEE THE ALCOHOL OUTLETS AND TOBACCO OUTLETS.
WE WILL SEE A HUGE MARKET HERE IN OUR STATE AND A SENSE OF MED YOUTH WE HAVE LEGAL INTOXICATING SUBSTANCES AND THEM BEING LEGAL DOES NOT STOP THEM FROM USING IT.
>> Steven Vancore: MAY I RESPOND TO THAT?
>> QUICKLY 20 SECONDS.
>> THAT IS CORRECT THAT 6 BILLION MARKET ALREADY EXISTS IN ILLEGAL TRADES.
>> Steven Vancore: ALL YOU ARE DOING IS TAKE IT OFF THE STREET IS THAT 6 BILLION MARKET AND MOVING IT TO A SAFE REGULATED ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU CAN TAX IT.
YOU CAN PROTECT AGAINST CHILDREN GETTING ACCESS TO IT.
THE $6 BILLION MARKET IS ALREADY THERE LET'S MOVE IT INSIDE.
>> Jim Rosica: I WANT TO PICK UP ON SOMETHING JESSICA SPENCER JUST SAID.
IN A SENSE, IS THIS BALLOT QUESTION PASSES, THE INDUSTRY THAT YOU REPRESENT, STEVE NEABSCO, I THINK WOULD ARGUE,C, I THINK SOO, I T, I THN ARGUE,C, I THINK SOO, I T, I TH COMPETE WITH THE ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO INDUSTRY.
I AM HUNDRED IF YOU SPOKE TO THOSE CONCERNED, ARE THEY CONCERNED ABOUT IF THIS AMENDMENT PASSES THAT IT WILL BE AN ENTRANCE INTO THAT INDUSTRY IN ANOTHER COMPETITOR?
HAS ANYBODY COME TO YOU WITH ANY CONCERNS?
>> Christopher Shorter: I HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS BUT NOBODY BROUGHT CONSENT BECAUSE WHAT YOU SEE IN REGULATED MARKETS IS A SLIGHT DECLINE IN ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION.
WHICH CORRELATES TO THE SAME DECLINE IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL KNOWN SOMEBODY WHEN THEY DRINK THEY GET A LITTLE VIOLENT, THEY GET AGGRESSIVE, THEY GET ANGRY.
NOBODY KNOWS ANYBODY WHO GETS HIGH AND IS THAT.
YOU SEE A REDUCTION IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
BUT YOU ARE ALREADY SEEING SOME OF THAT IN THE CRAFT MARKET.
THE CRAFT.
MARKET IS STARTING TO WANE.
PART OF THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE SWITCHING TO CBD MARKETS.
FRIENDLY, I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.
OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HAVE CLEARLY STATED ALCOHOL IS A DANGEROUS SUBSTANCE.
PEOPLE TO DIE, 200,000 PEOPLE DIE FROM ALCOHOL-RELATED DEATHS.
0 FROM MARIJUANA RELATED DEATHS.
IS IT A BAD THING IF THEY WILL BE SMOKING A JOINT IN THEIR HOME VERSUS DRINKING A FEW BEERS?
I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
THE REALLY THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT IS GIVING PEOPLE THE CHOICE.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BREAK THE LAW TO HAVE ONE CHOICE WHICH THEY ARE ALREADY DOING, VERSUS ANOTHER CHOICE.
>> Jim Rosica: JESSICA SPENCER I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD DO YOU AGREE WITH THE PREMISE OF THE QUESTION?
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: I DON'T AGREE WITH THE ANSWER.
AND I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT HE IS INCORRECT WHEN HE SAYS 0 DOES THAT ARE MARIJUANA.
THERE ARE PLENTY.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF FAMILIES WHO HAVE SUFFERED THE LOSS OF A FAMILY MEMBER.
FROM CANNABIS INDUCED PSYCHOSIS THEY GET INTO SOME KIND OF TROUBLE OR COMMITTED SUICIDE OR GOT IN TROUBLE.
I REMEMBER YEARS AGO CAITLYN CLARK DIED FROM THE HANDS OF HER HUSBAND.
IT IS A FALLACY.
I DO NOT WANT TO GO TOO MUCH UPSTREAM AND GET TOO FAR AWAY FROM THE ISSUE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
OR TALK ABOUT LEGALIZING A SUBSTANCE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FORMAT IN WHICH IT IS BEING PRESENTED TO US AND MAKE AN INFORMED, EDUCATED DECISION FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND NOT GET TOO FAR UPSTREAM.
STAEVE AND I WILL DISAGREE WE AE SORRY ABOUT A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IT IS WRITTEN POORLY AND HAS TOO MANY THINGS THAT ARE BAD FOR OUR STATE.
>> Jim Rosica: THANK YOU.
TOM?
>> Tom Flanigan: ONE MORE YOUTH AND MARIJUANA QUESTION STARTING WITH YOU, JESSICA, PLEASE.
SINCE YOU INDICATED THERE SEEMS TO BE, IN YOUR ESTIMATION, A HIGHER INCIDENT OF YOUNG PEOPLE PARTAKING OF MARIJUANA.
AND STATES THAT LEGALIZED RECREATION.
WHAT ADDITIONAL GUARDRAILS OR RESTRICTIONS DO YOU THINK YOU COULD PUT IN PLACE TO MITIGATE THAT IMPACT.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: IT WOULD NOT MATTER WHAT I THINK WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO SO BASED ON THE LINE WHICH OF THE AMENDMENT.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE AGE.
WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE OUTLETS AND WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED.
WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF TOOLS THEY ARE USING FOR MARKETING.
WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT REFERENCES RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA WHEN IT RELATES TO PACKAGING.
WHEN IT RELATES TO THE TYPE OF PRODUCTS THAT ARE THERE.
WHETHER IT RELATES TO CARTOON CHARACTERS, ETCETERA THERE IS NOTHING IN HERE.
WE TALKED ABOUT PLENARY AUTHORITY, OUR LEGISLATURE CAN ONLY BUT OF GUARDRAILS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE MEMBER.
BECAUSE IT IS NOT WRITTEN TO ALLOW THE LEGISLATURE TO PUT IN GUARDRAILS IS IN AND OF ITSELF A PROBLEM.
WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO LEGISLATE OUR WAYS INTO THOSE RELATIONS.
>> Tom Flanigan: VANC STEVEORE.
>> Steven Vancore: I PROBABLY LISTENED TO TOO MANY LAWYERS THIS IS UNDER THE MARIJUANA PART OF THE CONSTITUTION.
WHEN YOU ASK WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO PROTECT YOUTH WE SHOULD DO WE ARE DOING IN THE MEDICAL FIELD.
WHICH IS OPAQUE WINDOW SO YOU CAN'T SEE INSIDE A BIG PACKAGING, CHILDPROOF CONTAINER.
REMEMBER THE OUTSIDE OF THE BOX HAS TO BE CLEARLY STATED WITH THC.
THE INSIGHT HAS TO BE CLEARLY LABELED THC.
WE HAVE LIMITS ON MILLIGRAMS.
AND EACH PRODUCT IS ALSO LABELED THC.
THERE IS NO MISTAKING WHAT IT IS.
AND THE FEAR THAT DR. SPENCER ARTICULATED WHEN SHE WAS OPPOSING THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA AMENDMENT NEVER CAME THROUGH.
WE DON'T SEE INCREASE IN YOUTH USAGE.
YOU WILL NOT SEE THAT.
WHEN YOU SAY I DISAGREE ABOUT TEEN USAGE GOING DOWN THAT IS NOT ME SAYING IT.
THOSE ARE INDEPENDENT PEER-REVIEWED JOURNALS THAT AFFLICTED THE STATE A.
AND THEY HAVE CONCLUDED NOT ME.
THAT TEEN USAGE GOES DOWN BECAUSE THEY PUT IN PLACE THE SAME REGULATIONS WE HAVE UNDER THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA STAGES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA ALREADY.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO READ THEM ANGUISH BECAUSE IT REGULARS THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA MARKET.
DOES NOT SAY ONE WORD ABOUT RECREATIONAL.
IT CAN BE CHECKED WHEREVER YOU WANT IT TALKED IT DOES NOT REFERENCE RECREATIONAL.
IT WOULD BE IN DIRECT OPPOSITION.
IT WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE AMENDMENT PERIOD.
THAT IS HOW PLENARY AUTHORITY WORK THAT IS OUT AND LAMENTING BILLS AND SUBSEQUENT BILLS ARE WRITTEN.
>> Jim Rosica: WE WILL CHANGE THE FORMAT A BIT.
I WILL READ A QUOTE TO YOU EACH.
DIFFERENT QUOTE AND ASK YOU TO RESPOND.
THE OTHER PERSON WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO REBUT THE RESPONSE, AS IT IS, AS IT WERE.
VANCORE THIS IS FIRST THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM GOV.
DESANTIS FROM LAST NIGHT'S IBRAHAM ON FOX NEWS.
HE SAID -.
>> AMENDMENT THREE IS BEING BANKROLLED BY ONE BIG WEED COMPANY.
>> HE DID NOT NAME THAT COMPANY.
THEY ARE NOT DOING IT BECAUSE THEY CARE ABOUT THE BEST INTEREST OF FLORIDA, THEY ARE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE PROFITS.
THEY ARE SAYING YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO POSSESS AS WELL A IF YOU BUY IT FROM THEM.
BECAUSE THEY ARE SETTING UP A CARTEL IN THE CONSTITUTION OF FLORIDA.
SO, IF YOU WANT TO GROW YOUR OWN MARIJUANA, THAT IS NOT IN THE AMENDMENT TO END WELL.
MR. VANCORE?
>> Christopher Shorter: THAT STATEMENT IS FALSE RIGHT NOW LARA HAS 25 MEDICAL MARIJUANA LICENSES, THAT IS MORE THAN WE HAVE GROCERY STORE CHAINS.
AND THE GOVERNOR HIMSELF IS SITTING ON ANOTHER 22, AND AS APRIL 2023 THEY WOULD ISSUE ANOTHER 22 LICENSES.
THAT WOULD BE $47.
BUT JIM LET ME REVIEW THE BALLOT LANGUAGE ITSELF SO YOU CAN HEAR IT YOURSELF WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO PROVIDE FOR THE LICENSURE ENTITIES THAT ARE NOT MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTERS.
SO, YOU WANT TO MAKE THE CASE THEY ARE DOING IT FOR THEIR OWN GOOD BUT THEY ARE CREATING A MORE COMPETITIVE MARKET GIVEN THE LEGISLATURE THE CLEAR AUTHORITY TO GIVE MORE LICENSES FOR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE, TO QUOTE, TO CULTIVATE, ACQUIRE, PROCESS, TRANSFER, SELL.
THAT INCLUDES INDIVIDUALS IF THEY WANT TO GROW.
AN INDIVIDUAL CAN BE A LICENSEE, COULD BE AN ENTITY THAT CAN CULTIVATE THEIR OWN.
IT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE THAT THIS PROTECTS AND PRESERVES A CARTEL.
WHICH, BY THE WAY, A CARTEL IS ILLEGAL.
THEY ARE NOT ILLEGAL THEY WERE SIGNED INTO LAW BY A PERSON NAMED RON DESANTIS.
>> Jim Rosica: JESSICA SPENCER TOTALLY OPTIONAL, DO YOU WANT TO REBUT?
>> Christopher Shorter: YES.
>> Jim Rosica: OKAY.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: HIS CLIENT HAS BRAGGADOCIO THEY SAID IN A FLORIDA TREND ARTICLE THIS WOULD BE HISTORIC FOR THIS INDUSTRY.
THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS WILL BE WALMART AND CVS ON EVERY CORNER.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ABOUT THIS INDUSTRY.
YOU DO NOT SPEND OVER 100 MILLION BUILDING A BACKYARD COMPETITOR YOU DO IT TO CREATE A CONSUMER.
AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE WORDS MATTER FOR THEY TALK ABOUT CULTIVATOR ON THE TALK ABOUT THEMSELVES AND BEEN ABLE TO GROW.
THEY DID NOT TAKE IT WHEN I TALKED ABOUT INDIVIDUALS.
TO SAY WE WILL TALK IT IN AND HAVE IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL ENTITY.
BECAUSE WE ARE SITTING ON ALL THESE LICENSES THAT IS A FALLACY.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY DID THIS FOR THEMSELVES.
THIS IS ABOUT CORPORATE GREED AND FOLLOW THE MONEY TO FIGURE IT OUT.
AND LISTEN TO THEIR QUOTES IN THE FLORIDA TREND ARTICLE.
>> Jim Rosica: THANK YOU, JESSICA SPENCER THAT I WILL ASK YOU TO RESPOND TO A QUOTE.
THIS IS FROM FLORIDA ATTORNEY AND MARIJUANA ADVOCATE JON MORGAN.
THIS WAS TAKEN FROM AN APPEARANCE ON WKMG ALSO KNOWN AS QUICK ORLANDO.
THIS WAS YESTERDAY.
HE SAID TALLAHASSEE IS BROKEN FOR US THEY DON'T WANT US TO HAVE ANY SAY IN WHAT WE WANT.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT MARIJUANA AND LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF EVERYONE'S LIVES.
IT, REFERRING TO CRIMINALIZATION, DISPROPORTIONATELY DISCRIMINATES AGAINST PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THE POOR.
IT WAS A PLAN PUT INTO NATURE BY GOD AND IT WORKS.
THERE IS NO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MARIJUANA, THERE'S A LOT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH WILD TURKEY TEQUILA.
WHAT I SAY TO PEOPLE LIKE RON DESANTIS IS STAY OUT OF OUR LIVES.
GO AHEAD AND RESPOND TO THAT.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: IT IS PRETTY TYPICAL MR. MORGAN.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES THAT ARE NOT RELEVANT TO THE ISSUE AT HAND.
TALKING ABOUT JUSTICE REFORM, ABSOLUTELY, WE NEED TO DO THAT.
WE NEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT FIX THAT.
WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT RUINING LESS WHAT HE IS OFTEN REFERENCING.
EVERY TIME HAVE BEEN WITH HIM HIS REFERENCING PEOPLE'S CRIMINAL HISTORY AND HOW THEY CAN'T GET INTO COLLEGE AND CANNOT GET INTO COLLEGE, ETCETERA THIS WOULD NOT FIX TH FEAR MONGERING ON THAT SIDE ABOUT WHAT THE TRUTH IS ABOUT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE DEALING WITH REAL PROBLEMS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
LET'S LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOODS BEING TARGETED WITH THIS INDUSTRY AND WHAT THEY ARE LOCATED IN OTHER STATES.
THEY ARE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS FAIR AND EQUITABLE TREATMENT OF EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
>> Jim Rosica: STEVE VANCORE THEY WANT A REBUTTAL?
>> Christopher Shorter: IN FLORIDA A MINORITY IS A CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER.
I ASKED HIM WHAT PERCENTAGE OF HIS CASES WERE SIMPLE POSSESSION AND HE SAID BETWEEN 30 AND 40 PERCENT.
THE QUESTION WAS ASKED IN THE REFORM OF SHERIFF SMITH, OF BRADFORD COUNTY.
DOES HE HAVE ANYBODY IN HIS JILL, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JAIL AND PRISON.
I AGREE WITH GOV.
NO ONE IS IN PRISON A LONG-TERM STAY FOR SIMPLE POSSESSION.
HE SAID HE ABSOLUTELY 100 PERCENT HAS PEOPLE SITTING IN HIS JAIL TODAY FOR SIMPLE POSSESSION.
AND YOU ARE RIGHT, JON WAS RIGHT AS WELL.
IT IS DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGETED TOWARD PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THAT NEEDS TO STOP.
AND LISTEN, THIS WILL NOT FIX ALL OF THAT.
AND IF ANYBODY SAYS WE ARE SAYING THAT, WE ARE NOT.
THEY WILL NOT GET COMPLETELY OUT OF THE ILLICIT MARKET IT WILL NOT BRING TEEN USAGE TO 0.
IT WILL NOT RECTIFY THE WAR ON DRUGS BUT IT IS A GREAT STEP IN SAYING.
WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE SOME OF THAT DISPARITY WHEN IT COMES TO SIMPLE POSSESSION.
IT IS THAT SIMPLE.
I WISH WE COULD DO MORE BUT WE WERE LIMITED TO ONE VERY NARROW SUBJECT.
>> Jim Rosica: OKAY.
BEFORE TOM GOES INTO THE LIGHTNING ROUND I WOULD SUGGEST WE POSTPONE THE LIGHTNING FROM BECAUSE I AM CATCHING A TYPO IN THERE I NEED TO FIX.
I WILL ASK TOM TO GO INTO THE SECTION CALLED QUESTION FOR THE OTHER SIDE.
>> Tom Flanigan: LET'S KEEP THESE AS HAPPY AS WE CAN ONLY TEN MINUTES REMAINING IN OUR FORM TODAY.
SO, WHAT IS ONE QUESTION, STEVE, YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK JESSICA.
YOU GET ONE MINUTE 30 SECONDS FOR THAT.
>> Steven Vancore: WILL BE PASSES WHEN YOU WORK WITH US TO MAKE THE SAFEGUARD RULES IN PLACE?
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: I MEAN I GENUINELY LIKE YOU.
AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE MATCHING TODAY.
I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU BUT, AND VIRTUALLY, THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT GOING TO PASS BECAUSE IT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE STATE IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT AND WE NEED A FIXED PRIOR TO THAT.
>> Tom Flanigan: WE TOSS THE BALL TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COURT.
WHAT IS ONE QUESTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK STEVE, JESSICA?
>> [!EZ SPEAKER 30]: I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR STEVE I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS TO BE RELATED TO THE ISSUE OR NOT.
NO, I WILL PASS, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR HIM.
>> Jim Rosica: VERY GOOD.
I WILL CHECK THE TIME AND I SEE WE HAVE TIME FOR MAYBE ONE OR TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
SO, I WILL ASK THIS.
DO YOU HAVE A PERSONAL ANECDOTE ABOUT MARIJUANA THAT HELPS SHAPE YOUR OPINION ON THIS ISSUE?
DO YOU HAVE A PERSONAL ANECDOTE ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA THAT SHAPES YOUR ISSUE.
JESSICA YOU SPOKE LAST YOU WILL SPEAK FIRST ON THIS YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: I THINK I DO, I KNOW I DO I HAVE SEVERAL BECAUSE I HAVE A 24 YEAR CAREER.
>> Jim Rosica: PICK ONE.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: WHAT IS MORE CONCERNING IS IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT I LOOK AT MY DAYS IN HOUSTON AND ADULT DETOX.
I DID NOT THINK THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE PUNGENCY OF MARIJUANA AT THE TIME.
OR RATHER, I DID IN THE SENSE I HAD PEOPLE STILL COME IN AND STAY IN DETOX.
AT THE TIME WE SENT THEM TO THE STREET.
NOW THAT I AM SEEING HIGHLY POTENT MARIJUANA PRODUCTS, WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED TO BE DETOX AND SOMETIMES SEVERAL DAYS.
FOR ME, I VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
AGAIN, TO ANSWER MR. MORGAN'S STATEMENT AS WELL.
IT WAS FROM HOWEVER MANY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.
NOW WE ARE GENETICALLY ENGINEERING AND MESSING WITH THIS PLAN AND IT IS HIGHLY POTENT.
FOR ME ANECDOTALLY I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PUNGENCY OF THESE PRODUCTS IN THE MESSAGE THAT IS SENDING TO EVERYBODY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
>> Jim Rosica: STEVE VANCORE YOUR NEXT.
>> [!EZ SPEAKER 30]: A LITTLE OVER TEN YEARS AGO IS WORKING WITH MR. MORRISON TO WARN PEOPLE ABOUT THE DANGERS OF MARIJUANA LACED WITH FENTANYL.
THAT WAS HARD TO HEAR HIM AND TALK ABOUT THE FAMILIES.
BUT WHAT REALLY HIT HOME FOR ME, JIM, IS WHEN A CLOSE FRIEND OF MINE TOLD ME ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO DIED THAT DAY FROM SMOKING MARIJUANA WAS HIS BROTHER.
AND IT WAS THREE, NINE TOTAL THAT DIED THE STATE THREE FROM SMOKING MARIJUANA.
YES, THAT COMMITTED ME TO SAY WE NEED TO GET THIS STUFF OFF THE STREETS WHERE IT IS BEING PLACED WITH DANGEROUS CHEMICALS AND PUT IT TO A SAFE MARKET WHERE IT CAN BE INDEPENDENTLY LAB TESTED.
SO YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU THINK YOU ARE GETTING.
WHEN WE DID THIS 100 YEARS AGO FOR LIQUOR AND BEER AND WINE SPIRITS.
WE DID IT BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE RUNNING WHEN SHINE, PEOPLE WERE DYING AS A DIRECT RESULT OF ALCOHOL THEY WERE GOING BLIND FROM IMPROPER ATTITUDES.
WITH TAKING IT OFF THE STREETS.
I DO NOT DRINK, BUT I RESPECT IF YOU WANT TO.
AT LEAST YOU ARE BUYING IT, YOU ARE OF AGE YOU HAVE A CHOICE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE.
AND YOU KNOW THERE ARE NO DANGEROUS CHEMICALS ADDED TO IT OTHER THAN WHAT YOU ARE BEING TOLD.
>> Jim Rosica: FOLKS, CLOSING ARGUMENTS.
CASE.
>> Dr. Jessica Spencer: I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE ON TWO THINGS BRO THE FIRST THING IS THAT SMOKING MARIJUANA.
SOMETHING ONE IN SIX AMERICANS ALREADY DO.
THEY HAVE TO ENGAGE IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY TO DO THAT.
WE SHOULD AGREE THAT DOES NOT NEED TO BE A DEATH SENTENCE OR RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH YOUR LIFE.
THE SECOND THING, ACCORDING TO THE GOVERNOR AGAIN.
NOBODY SHOULD GO TO JAIL FOR SMOKING A JOINT.
I ALSO THINK NOBODY SHOULD GO TO JAIL FOR SIMPLY POSSESSING A LIMITED AMOUNT OF MARIJUANA BUT THROUGH A LEGAL CHANNEL.
YOU TAKE THOSE TWO THINGS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY WIPE AWAY EVERYTHING ELSE YOU ARE HEARING FROM BOTH S ISSUES THE OTHER SIDE HAS ADMITTED IS SAYING OUT THERE.
WE ARE NOT THERE TO FIX THEIR PROBLEMS.
WE ARE HERE TO VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT WILL FOREVER BE ENSHRINED IN OUR STATE CONSTITUTION AS WRITTEN IN THE LANGUAGE WE ARE LOOKING AT.
I URGE EVERYONE TO PLEASE READ AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS FOR OUR STATE AND PLEASE VOTE NO.
>> Jim Rosica: THANK YOU TO OUR GUEST TODAY JESSICA SPENCER, DIR.
OF ADVOCACY FOR NO ON THREE.
AND STEVE VANCORE REPRESENTING SMART AND SAFE FLORIDA.
WE ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU OUR AUDIENCE FOR JOINING US FOR THIS FORUM.
AND OF COURSE THANK YOU WFSU TO AND THE TALLAHASSEE DEMOCRAT FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
>> Tom Flanigan: YOU CAN FIND A REPLAY ON THE FORUM ON OUR YOUTUBE PAGES, TALLAHASSEE.COM AS WELL AS OMNIRIDE, THE RECORDED BROADCAST WILL AIR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 29TH AT 11 AM ON WFSU, ON SO PLEASE TELL YOUR FRIENDS.
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WITH INTERVIEWS WITH ALL THE CANDIDATES ON THE PALACE, THE LOCAL PALACE.
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FOR NOW WFSU AND THE TALLAHASSE DEMOCRAT, THANK YOU.
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