NARRATOR: Gettysburg is famous as the site of the three-day battle that was fought there.

There are 1,320 markers and memorials to the men who died at Gettysburg.

There's also a memorial to Sallie Ann Jarrett.

Do you know who Sallie Ann was?

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[music playing] Now, let's get the game started.

Here's the host of the Pennsylvania Game, Lynn Hinds.

[applause] LYNN HINDS: Thank you.

I thank you.

I appreciate it.

Good evening to you.

Hello, and we'd like to welcome you to another edition of the Pennsylvania Game.

I'd like to say thank you to the Golden Kiwanians from Lock Haven who are in our audience and ready to applaud.

Applaud yourself, it's all right.

Go ahead.

[applause] Let's give a warm enthusiastic greeting to back in the number one chair all rested up and ready to play again, Bernie Asbell.

[applause] A broadcast journalist from Harrisburg, our state capital.

Let's welcome Beverly Amsler.

[applause] And everybody's favorite psychologist, Dr. Stephen Ragusea.

Steve, it's nice to have you back.

[applause] Now listen up, because the first question is-- you probably have noticed as you've wandered through Gettysburg and all those memorials and monuments that are there, there is a monument there to one Sallie Ann Jarrett.

And we simply want to know, who was Sallie Ann?

NARRATOR: Among the many monuments at Gettysburg National Park is a memorial to Sallie Ann Jarrett, who was connected to the 11th Pennsylvania Volunteers' Infantry.

Was Sallie Ann, A, the commander's wife, B, the regimental laundress, C, the regiment's dog, or D, a camp follower?

LYNN HINDS: That's quite a menu when you think about it.

Lots there.

And by the way, while you're thinking that over, I'd like to say that on behalf of WPSX and Pennsylvania Magazine, we'll give a year subscription to Timothy Snook of Dover, Pennsylvania, for suggesting Sallie Ann Jarrett as a question.

Well, Bernie, what was Sallie Ann or who was Sallie Ann?

The commander's wife, the regimental laundress, the regiment's dog, or a camp follower?

BERNIE ASBELL: Well everybody knows it was the regiment's dog.

Now let me think what answer you want.

LYNN HINDS: I see.

BERNIE ASBELL: (WHISPERS) Commanders wife.

LYNN HINDS: Uh-huh, could have been.

BERNIE ASBELL: For obvious reasons, she was the regimental laundress.

LYNN HINDS: OK, would you want to put a B up there?

BERNIE ASBELL: That's right.

LYNN HINDS: Beverly, you've heard a rather circuitous logic.

BEVERLY AMSLER: Well, I like the answer the regiment's dog also.

But I think I'm going to have to be just a little different and go with A, the commander's wife.

LYNN HINDS: OK, we got-- that could have been the same person actually, the regimental laundress and the commander's wife.

Stephen?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: The commander's wife is too much honorary fame and the regiment's dog is too sexist.

And the camp follower suggests that the Grateful Dead was touring through town.

[laughs] And she was a deadhead, and I don't think they were doing rock groups back then.

So I'm going to go with regimental laundress.

LYNN HINDS: I see we have a couple of B's and an A.

Nobody picked the regiment's dog or a camp follower.

Sallie Ann Jarrett, we salute you.

NARRATOR: The answer is C, the regiment's dog.

She was given to the regiment as a puppy at the outbreak of the war and was cared for by the soldiers.

Sallie Ann served valiantly until shot through the head near Petersburg, Virginia.

She fell standing her post and was buried by her friends, braving enemy fire to do so.

Sallie Ann's monument at Gettysburg is a tribute to the important role mascots played in the Civil War.

LYNN HINDS: One of the things that's neat is there's so many books coming out now about based on diaries and letters from the Civil War, and mascots did play a rather large role.

LYNN HINDS: I knew there was a Sallie Ann in one of them.

But I thought Jarrett was her maiden name.

LYNN HINDS: You all knew that it was the dog.

You really did, but you were afraid to go with it.

Let's go back a little earlier in time, back to pre-revolutionary days and to a place in Western Pennsylvania called Fort Pitt.

NARRATOR: Pittsburgh played a key role in the founding of the nation.

In 1756, the French abandoned Fort Duquesne on the forks of the Ohio and the British built Fort Pitt, their most elaborate fortification on the American frontier.

Which of these facts is not true of Fort Pitt?

A, it was in the form of a pentagon.

B, it covered 20 acres.

C, it was surrounded by a moat.

And D, its walls were made of bricks.

LYNN HINDS: OK, and this is-- the picture you saw, of course, was a little later in Pittsburgh history.

The rivers are still there.

But back 20 years before the revolution, Fort Pitt-- and this is one of those questions where three of the facts, Beverly, are true, one is not.

We just want you to know which-- want you to say which one is not true.

BEVERLY AMSLER: Well, I think-- I should remember this from Pennsylvania history, but I think I will go with A again.

No.

LYNN HINDS: You think it was not in the shape of the-- OK. Stephen?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: I'm going to assume that if it was a 20 acre fort surrounded by a moat in the form of a pentagon, by the time of the Revolution, they wouldn't have had time to make that many bricks.

LYNN HINDS: I see.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: So I'm going to go with D. LYNN HINDS: OK, you're going to say that its walls were not made of bricks.

Bernie, are you-- are you still with us here?

BERNIE ASBELL: Yeah.

I'm going to say D for an entirely different set of reasons than Steve, and I don't have time to recite them.

[laughs] LYNN HINDS: Well, you spelled BAB, and now you spell DAD.

You're on a spelling roll at least.

What was true and not true of Fort Pitt?

NARRATOR: The answer is B.

It covered just two acres.

But Fort Pitt was in the shape of a pentagon.

Its walls contained more than a million bricks, and it was surrounded by a moat.

Fort Pitt played an important role in the War for Independence and the settlement of Western Pennsylvania.

By 1800, the fort had fallen into ruin, and its masses materials were sold for just 50 pounds.

Much of that history is preserved today in the Fort Pitt Museum.

LYNN HINDS: And if you're there in Pittsburgh at the point, underneath-- sort of underneath the bridge in the Fort Pitt Museum.

And the blockhouse you saw is still standing, and is-- the original one is still there.

And that is the-- what do you call it, a diorama?

Is that the correct-- the model on the table?

It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.

Bernie, what you been up to lately?

BERNIE ASBELL: Oh, just between Pennsylvania Games, just sitting at that word processor.

We used to say typewriter.

LYNN HINDS: Writing away.

Listening to it click away.

Beverly's been up to some things.

Beverly gave me a card.

Let me read this, because I-- "WKBO Radio."

And something interesting about WKBO.

You are the first AM radio station in the nation to be-- BEVERLY AMSLER: CNN headline news.

LYNN HINDS: Should have done that as a question on the Pennsylvania Game.

You're all news all day long.

BEVERLY AMSLER: Yes.

24 hours a day, seven days a week.

LYNN HINDS: Now you didn't start out in Harrisburg, did you?

BEVERLY AMSLER: No.

I am originally from Knox in Western Pennsylvania.

LYNN HINDS: And Knox is near--?

BEVERLY AMSLER: Clarion.

LYNN HINDS: And everybody knows where Clarion is.

Except Bernie, and I explained that to him before the show started.

Yeah.

Stephen, how are you doing these days?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: I'm doing great.

LYNN HINDS: You're not doing well on the score.

So far you are all-- STEPHEN RAGUSEA: You know, you know, it's important to remember that only in a state founded by William Penn, great Quaker and equalitarian, if you will, could three people make such great fools of themselves on television.

LYNN HINDS: That's right.

BERNIE ASBELL: And be loved for it.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Yeah.

LYNN HINDS: Let's go to Philadelphia, the other end of the state, and talk about a famous bridge.

NARRATOR: When it opened in 1926, the Delaware River Bridge was at 1.8 miles-- the longest suspension bridge in the United States.

Later renamed the Benjamin Franklin Bridge, the toll for cars was just a quarter.

Drivers used the bridge, so ferries suffered a loss of customers.

Did the last ferry close in A, 1926, B, 1934, C, 1940, or D, 1952?

LYNN HINDS: I went-- first time I went across that Ben Franklin Bridge, I counted, I think, 142 lanes.

That is the biggest, widest bridge I've ever seen in my life.

Of course, I haven't been out of Pennsylvania ever.

But 1926, that bridge opened.

And Steve, we're down to you.

And I want to know, when did the last ferry close?

If they had a bridge, why'd they need a ferry?

'26, '34, '40, or '52?

The year.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: I'm going to go with '52, just with the notion that it might have been kept open as a sentimental favorite.

LYNN HINDS: OK.

So you think that there might have been a sentimental ferry that lasted till 1952.

Bernie?

BERNIE ASBELL: Well, I'm constrained to go with 1940.

LYNN HINDS: Because that's the year you were born, right?

BERNIE ASBELL: No, no, because that's the right answer, and we need one here desperately.

LYNN HINDS: (LAUGHS) I see.

Bernie's going with right answers.

That's a switch.

Beverly?

BEVERLY AMSLER: Well, all those years are before my time.

LYNN HINDS: Uh-huh.

I wish they were before mine, too, Beverly, but-- OK, go on.

BEVERLY AMSLER: We're just going to take a guess.

I'll say B. LYNN HINDS: 1934.

That is a great year to have been born in, he said, with some experience of that year.

What's the right answer?

NARRATOR: The answer is D, 1952.

Despite the magnificent Ben Franklin Bridge that cars could drive across while airplanes could fly under and dirigibles could float over, ferries did not vanish until 26 years after the bridge was opened.

LYNN HINDS: Yeah, there was still somebody's uncle who said, I don't believe that bridge is not going to fall down.

I'm going to take the ferry.

So it did.

And congratulations, the score is rather close.

Steve has one right.

Let's give a very mild applause.

[applause] There will be three clues to our mystery Pennsylvanian during the course of the show.

And if you know it, panel, write it on number one.

You'll probably get this one.

It's so easy.

Clue number one, born in Pittsburgh in 1902-- that narrows it down, doesn't it?

He followed his father's career as a movie producer.

Now how many movie producers were born in Pittsburgh in 1902?

That's the question.

So just write that down if you know the answer.

If you don't, cogitate a while.

There will be, I promise you, more clues, which will clear things up a little bit.

Sadie Tanner Alexander.

NARRATOR: Sadie Tanner Alexander was born in Philadelphia, where she lived and worked until well into her eighties.

She holds several distinctions.

Which of these honors does Sadie Alexander not hold?

Was she the first African American woman in Pennsylvania to, A, graduate from law school, B, admitted to the bar association, C, become a judge, or D, earn a PhD?

LYNN HINDS: And Mrs. Myrtle Renard or Renard of Kane, Pennsylvania, gets a subscription to Pennsylvania Magazine from WPSX and Pennsylvania Magazine for sending that in.

This is another one, Bernie, where three she did, one she did not.

You pick out which one she did not do.

Was she the first African American woman in Pennsylvania to A, B, C, or D?

You see those there.

BERNIE ASBELL: She did not earn a PhD, because she spent her time better than that, becoming a lawyer.

LYNN HINDS: A lawyer?

OK, I won't quarrel with that.

Beverly?

BEVERLY AMSLER: Oh, it's another guess.

I go off to differ from Bernie and say C. LYNN HINDS: Become a-- she did not become a judge, she was too busy getting a PhD to become a judge.

Stephen?

That is a rather impressive list, isn't it?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: I'm going to say that she was the first African American woman to become a judge.

That's what I think she was.

She was the-- right?

She was the first African American-- LYNN HINDS: No, which one does she not hold?

Which does she not hold?

BERNIE ASBELL: She was three of those.

LYNN HINDS: So if you think she was a judge-- STEPHEN RAGUSEA: That's not what it says.

LYNN HINDS: Well, that's what I said.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: OK. LYNN HINDS: You got to go by me.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Well then I'm going to go with PhD.

LYNN HINDS: She did not have a PhD.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Yeah.

LYNN HINDS: You're just trying to make sure Bernie doesn't get ahead.

I know.

Quite an impressive list.

What's the right answer?

NARRATOR: The answer is C. Sadie Alexander never became a judge.

Although her husband was a judge, Dr. Alexander never aspired to the bench, preferring to work as an advocate.

She earned a PhD in economics from the Wharton School in 1921 and a law degree from the University of Pennsylvania.

In 1980, she chaired the White House conference on aging.

Dr. Sadie Tanner Alexander said, "Make yourself the best that you can be out of what you are, the very best.

Don't let anything stop you."

LYNN HINDS: She's quite a woman, and one that we can be proud of here in Pennsylvania.

Next question is for Stephen Ragusea.

See if you can figure out why.

NARRATOR: "Amadeo Obici was an Italian immigrant who journeyed alone to America as a 12-year-old boy, settling in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.

In 1906, he founded a company that is still in business today."

Did he start A, San Giorgio Spaghetti, B, Pennsylvania House Furniture, C, Thrift Drug, or D, Planters Peanuts?

LYNN HINDS: OK, Beverly, you get to start this one.

But we'll let Steve pronounce his name.

What-- Amedeo Obici?

Am I saying that right?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Sure.

LYNN HINDS: OK.

He came here as 12 years old from Italy, and he started a business.

And I just wanted to know, what business did he start?

Kind of simple.

Bev?

BEVERLY AMSLER: Well, San Giorgio Spaghetti is the most obvious choice.

I'm not sure about Pennsylvania House Furniture or Thrift Drug.

But I like Planters Peanuts.

LYNN HINDS: You like Planters Peanuts.

Steven, what's the answer here?

Listen to this, Bernie.

This ought to be good.

Yes, go ahead.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Well, Italians have contributed many important elements to Pennsylvania culture.

LYNN HINDS: It's true.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: I have no idea what this particular man contributed.

But the most important thing is to remember that spaghetti is where it's at.

LYNN HINDS: Spaghetti's where it's at.

Bernie?

BERNIE ASBELL: Well, spaghetti is obvious.

And for that reason, it's A.

We have two obvious and a peanuts.

Let's see what Amedeo Obici started.

NARRATOR: The answer is D, Planters Peanuts.

Starting as a peanut vendor in Wilkes-Barre, Obici built Planters Peanuts into a multi-million dollar business that is today the world's largest dealer in peanut products.

Mr. Peanut, the company's trademark, began his association with Planters in 1916.

When the firm offered a prize for the best trademark suggestion, a 14-year-old Virginia boy submitted a drawing for an animated peanut.

While an artist added the now familiar cane, hat, and monocle.

LYNN HINDS: I do believe that the young woman in the middle named Beverly is ahead of the two gentlemen on either side of her.

Let's hear it for Beverly Amsler.

[applause] Clue number two.

The plot thickens.

Clue number two to our mystery Pennsylvanian.

He brought Dietrich and Bergman to Hollywood.

He signed Hepburn and Astaire, and he signed Jennifer Jones, the woman he would later marry.

And clue number one, you remember, was born in Pittsburgh 1902.

Followed his father's career as a movie producer.

Who brought Dietrich and Bergman to Hollywood?

Marlene Dietrich and Ingrid Bergman.

While they're cogitating and musing and thinking and all that good stuff, let me remind you, if you want to drop us a line, we'd love to hear from you.

Suggestion, just a howdy.

The Pennsylvania Game, Wagner Annex, University Park, Pennsylvania, 16802.

And I hear scribbling going on.

Somebody has an idea.

Let's go to Philadelphia again.

And remember, Grace Kelly was a mystery Pennsylvanian.

Quite a family, that Kelly family.

NARRATOR: Philadelphia's Grace Kelly was famous as an Academy Award winning actress and as Princess Grace of Monaco.

Her brother, John B. Kelly, Jr., won the Diamond Sculls at the Henley Regatta in England in 1947.

Their father had been barred from that same race 27 years earlier.

Why was he barred?

A, he had been born in Ireland, B, he had a criminal record, C, he had worked with his hands, or D, he had played pro football.

LYNN HINDS: Well, now, that's quite a choice, too, here.

Grace Kelly's brother John won the Diamond Sculls in the regatta, the Henley Regatta in England 1947.

But 27 years earlier in 1920, her father was not allowed to row in that famous regatta for one of those reasons.

And Steven, you are permitted to pick first this time.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Well, my answer-- LYNN HINDS: Yes.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: --is based upon the notion that in the past, professional athletes have been stopped-- LYNN HINDS: That's right.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: --from engaging in activities that were devoted entirely to amateurs.

LYNN HINDS: That's true.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: So I'm going to pick D. But instead of any of those reasons, it probably stands for duh.

LYNN HINDS: Duh.

You think he played pro football, which would be a reason enough.

Bernie, what's the-- what's your choice here?

BERNIE ASBELL: Steve talked me out of it.

I was going to pick D. LYNN HINDS: Yeah.

Talked a little too long, did he?

Well.

BERNIE ASBELL: Well, he-- LYNN HINDS: What do you say?

BERNIE ASBELL: He-- LYNN HINDS: Because 1920 in England was, you know, a different time.

Go ahead, I'm sorry.

BERNIE ASBELL: I think it's because he was born in Ireland, is what I think.

Whoops.

LYNN HINDS: Well, that's A. BERNIE ASBELL: Yeah.

LYNN HINDS: That could be in 1920.

Beverly?

BERNIE ASBELL: It's one of those races where no Irish need apply.

LYNN HINDS: OK, Beverly, what do you say?

BEVERLY AMSLER: I'm going to have to agree with Bernie.

LYNN HINDS: Do you?

BEVERLY AMSLER: I think it was because he was born in Ireland.

LYNN HINDS: You think?

I'm sorry to hear that, Beverly.

But what was the reason that he was-- Grace Kelly's father was not allowed in the contest because-- NARRATOR: The answer is C, he had worked with his hands.

John B. Kelly Senior was a millionaire by 1940.

But in 1920, he was a bricklayer.

The Henley Regatta had a rule that barred anyone who had worked with his hands.

The father of Grace and John Kelly Junior won two Olympic gold medals that same year.

His son's victory in the Diamond Sculls wrote a memorable postscript to an unfortunate chapter in the world of sports.

LYNN HINDS: They were just a bit, shall we say, lordly over there then.

If you worked with your hands, you weren't allowed to participate with, you know, the aristocrats.

And he had actually worked with his hands.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: I noticed from the shape of the boats that they were rather narrow minded.

LYNN HINDS: That's true.

[laughs] Does the name Charles Taze Russell mean anything to any of you?

That's the question.

NARRATOR: "Pittsburgh native Charles Taze Russell died suddenly of heart failure on a train in Texas.

His last words being, please wrap me in a Roman toga."

Is Russell famous for A, founding the Jehovah's Witnesses, B, founding the Know Nothing Party, C, leading the archaeological expedition at Pompeii, or D, designing the Capitol Building in Harrisburg?

LYNN HINDS: John-- Charles Taze Russell.

Born on the north side of Pittsburgh, as a matter of fact.

And he died on a train in Texas.

And his last words were, for some reason-- maybe there's a clue here-- "Please wrap me in a Roman toga."

But what's-- which of those is he famous for?

We're down to-- up to whom?

Beverly, is it your turn to start on this one?

No, I think it's your turn, Bernie.

BERNIE ASBELL: Yeah, I think it-- well, that sounds like the last words of a Jehovah's Witness.

LYNN HINDS: Why would a Jehovah's Witness say, please wrap me in a Roman toga?

Well, I don't know.

Beverly, go ahead.

BERNIE ASBELL: Because he was about to knock on some doors.

LYNN HINDS: I see.

I see.

I see.

Beverly?

BEVERLY AMSLER: As many times as I've been in the Capitol Building, I really don't know who built it.

Or who designed it.

But the Know Nothing Party sounds quite interesting.

LYNN HINDS: That was very active in Pennsylvania, all right.

Stephen, what do you say?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: I certainly feel like registering with the Know Nothing Party.

[laughs] LYNN HINDS: I Don't Know Nothing Party.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Given that the show has something to do with Pennsylvania, I'm tempted to choose D. However, given the obvious clue for Roman togas, I'm going with the expedition at Pompeii.

LYNN HINDS: Pompeii.

Wasn't it Music Man where they pronounced that Pompeii-- STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Pompeii.

LYNN HINDS: Pompeii, yes.

That was great.

Charles Taze Russell.

What's he famous for?

NARRATOR: The answer is A, founding the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Born in 1852, Charles Taze Russell left his native congregational church because he could not accept the doctrine of eternal damnation.

Through his study of scripture Russell determined that the second coming of Christ would be in an invisible form in the autumn of 1874.

He began to publish his revelations in a magazine called The Watchtower, still published today, and founded an independent church which became known as the Jehovah's Witnesses.

With branches throughout the United States, Europe, and Canada, Russell's dying wish, to be wrapped in a Roman toga, was fulfilled as far as possible by means of an improvised toga made out of Pullman sheets.

LYNN HINDS: I still don't understand why the founder of the Jehovah's Witness would want to be wrapped in a Roman toga when he died.

But he did and he was, so there you are.

BERNIE ASBELL: I needed that answer, and I've just experienced a conversion.

LYNN HINDS: Have you?

Who was king during the revolution?

King George the-- BERNIE ASBELL: (QUIETLY) Three.

LYNN HINDS: Three.

NARRATOR: We all know about King George III, who was king during the American Revolution.

In Bristol, there is an inn that claims to be the oldest continuously operated inn in America.

It's so old that it was named for the British monarch who was on the throne of England before George III.

Is it called A, King George II Inn, B, Queen Anne Inn, C, King James Inn, or D, William and Mary Inn?

LYNN HINDS: And Mary Thorne Shelley of Port Allegany is going to get a year subscription to Pennsylvania Magazine from WPSX and Pennsylvania Magazine for sending in this idea.

Everybody knows about King George III, but who was king before for George III?

While all the good stuff was going on.

Beverly, it is your turn this time to start.

BEVERLY AMSLER: Well I think because of the last question and the Jehovah Witnesses, we'll go with the King James Bible and say-- LYNN HINDS: King James, OK. BEVERLY AMSLER: King James Inn.

LYNN HINDS: All righty.

Stephen?

Before King George III, there was-- STEPHEN RAGUSEA: There-- LYNN HINDS: Go ahead.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: There were lots of things.

LYNN HINDS: Yeah, but who was on the throne of England before then?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: I don't know.

I haven't got the slightest idea.

I like the sound of William and Mary Inn.

LYNN HINDS: Yeah, it's nice.

They ought to have a college named after them.

Bernie, what do you say?

BERNIE ASBELL: Well, I heard somebody get a wrong answer just the other night on Jeopardy.

LYNN HINDS: Uh-huh.

BERNIE ASBELL: No, a right answer.

LYNN HINDS: Yeah.

BERNIE ASBELL: William and Mary College was here before Harvard.

So that the inn must have been here before.

LYNN HINDS: Sometimes the simple, most direct answer is the right one.

NARRATOR: The answer is A, King George II Inn.

The inn overlooks the Delaware River in Bristol.

Founded in 1681, the King George II Inn has changed names and owners since its start but has always been an inn.

According to local legend, the inn has entertained such notables as George Washington, John Adams, James Madison, John Tyler, and even Millard Fillmore.

LYNN HINDS: OK. King George the 2th was before King George III, don't you see?

The score, well, Beverly is still ahead with two, and the gentlemen are close behind with only one.

Let's have a mild applause.

It's not a lot.

[applause] They've not distinguished themselves.

They haven't.

This is clue number three to our mystery Pennsylvanian.

His brother Myron introduced him to the British actress who would star in his biggest and most important movie.

And if you can't get it on that, I just give up hope for you.

His brother Myron introduced him to the British actress who would star in his biggest and most important movie.

Clue number one, you'll recall, he was born in Pittsburgh in 1902 and followed his father's career as a movie producer.

And clue number two was he brought Marlene Dietrich and Ingrid Bergman to Hollywood.

He signed Katharine Hepburn and Fred Astaire.

And he also signed Jennifer Jones, who was the woman he would later marry.

But the biggest clue is his brother Myron introduced him to the British actress who would star in his biggest and most important movie.

Stephen, it's your turn to start.

Who do you say?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Oh, sure.

Thanks a lot.

LYNN HINDS: It's your turn.

What can I tell you?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Can't go to Bernie this time first?

You know?

LYNN HINDS: Who is our mystery Pennsylvanian?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: I haven't got the-- the only Cohen I can think of is Myron Cohen.

And he wouldn't have directed anything like that.

LYNN HINDS: That's correct.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: He wouldn't even talk to Marlene Dietrich.

I had guessed John Huston earlier, because he was born around that time.

LYNN HINDS: John Huston was born around that time.

Some place and in that century or the one before.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: That's right.

LYNN HINDS: Yes.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: He was born.

LYNN HINDS: Bernie, what do you got?

BERNIE ASBELL: I got-- there were a bunch of-- there were some generational Selznicks.

LYNN HINDS: Selznick.

So you think it's somebody named Selznick.

Beverly?

BEVERLY AMSLER: I couldn't think of anything.

LYNN HINDS: OK. Who was born in Pittsburgh in 1902 and went to Hollywood and produced the greatest movie in the world?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Cecil B. NARRATOR: David O. Selznick was born in 1902 on a street in downtown Pittsburgh.

His father owned a jewelry store near the nation's first Nickelodeon.

And the magic of movies led his father to become a New York movie producer.

Young David moved to Hollywood to follow his father's career.

Selznick worked for MGM, Paramount, and RKO, and became famous for his movie versions of literary classics, such as David Copperfield.

He brought Marlene Dietrich and Ingrid Bergman to Hollywood and signed such stars as Katharine Hepburn and Fred Astaire.

And the woman who was to become his second wife, Jennifer Jones.

His brother Myron Selznick was an agent who introduced him to Vivian Leigh for the role of Scarlett O'Hara.

David O. Selznick correctly predicted that his obituary would lead with "Gone With the Wind producer dies."

David O. Selznick, a famous Pennsylvanian.

LYNN HINDS: That's probably, I guess, everybody's favorite movie, isn't it?

"Gone With the Wind."

I mean, everybody seems to like that.

You know what scene was-- there's more trivia about "Gone With the Wind."

You know what scene was filmed first in "Gone With the Wind?"

BERNIE ASBELL: The last one.

LYNN HINDS: No, not the last one, but do you know which one it was?

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: No.

LYNN HINDS: It's the burning of Atlanta.

They had an old movie set they needed to get rid of.

So they burned it and filmed it and filmed it as the burning of Atlanta to get rid of the set.

And while they were filming the burning of Atlanta, David O. Selznick, native Pittsburgher, was-- his father had a jewelry store down in Pittsburgh.

Was standing there watching the burning of Atlanta, and his brother Myron tugged at his sleeve and said, "I'd like you to meet Scarlett O'Hara.

Her name is Vivian Leigh."

And there stood the British actress who indeed would star as-- BERNIE ASBELL: So his father the jeweler was a movie producer?

LYNN HINDS: His father got tired of selling watches, went to New York, and said, I'm going to produce movies.

And his son followed him.

And Myron went and became an agent.

But the David O-- the Selznick family-- Western Pennsylvania has a lot to do with movies, which you shall find out in subsequent shows.

Thank you all for joining us.

Thank you for joining us, and come back next time.

We'll see you next time.

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