
Friday, May 23, 2025
Season 1 Episode 3563 | 27m 30sVideo has Closed Captions
Federal investigators search for answers after a small jet crashes into a San Diego neighborhood.
Federal investigators search for answers after a small jet crashes into a San Diego neighborhood. Plus, ICE agents are using a controversial tactic — arresting people as they leave immigration court. In one case, they got the wrong man. And in North County, we visit a gourd farm where these unusual plants are turned into art, instruments and everyday objects in this edition of Hidden San Diego.
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Friday, May 23, 2025
Season 1 Episode 3563 | 27m 30sVideo has Closed Captions
Federal investigators search for answers after a small jet crashes into a San Diego neighborhood. Plus, ICE agents are using a controversial tactic — arresting people as they leave immigration court. In one case, they got the wrong man. And in North County, we visit a gourd farm where these unusual plants are turned into art, instruments and everyday objects in this edition of Hidden San Diego.
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TONIGHT, FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS ARE PIECING TOGETHER WHAT CAUSED A SMALL PLANE CRASH THAT ENDED LIFE IN A MILITARY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
I AM MAYA TRABULSI.
SIX PEOPLE ARE PRESUMED DEAD WITH DETAILS COMING TO LIGHT ON WHAT HAPPENED.
WE ARE LIVE WITH THE LATEST.
KATIE, WHAT HAVE INVESTIGATORS SHARE TODAY?
>> Reporter: WELCOME YOU CAN SEE BEHIND ME THAT THE SAN DIEGO POLICE HAVE BLOCKED OFF THIS PORTION OF SALMON STREET, SO WE CAN SEE WHAT IS GOING ON SAMPLE STREET AT THIS MOMENT, BUT WHAT I COULD SAY THAT EARLIER THROUGHOUT THIS MORNING, THEY WERE COMING THROUGH THE WRECKAGE STARTING TO COMB FOR DEBRIS AND THE NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD IS HERE CONDUCTING THEIR ON GROUND INVESTIGATION.
WE KNOW THE LIGHTING SYSTEM AT THE RUNWAY WHERE THE PLANE APPEARED TO BE APPROACHING WAS OUT OF SERVICE.
TRUCK DAN BAKER IS AN INVESTIGATOR WITH THE NTSB.
HERE IS WHAT ELSE HE SAID INVESTIGATORS KNOW SO FAR.
>> THE PILOT DIDN'T REPORT ANY PROBLEMS TO AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL, AND HE DIDN'T DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
WE HAVE DETERMINED THE AUTOMATED SURFACE OBSERVING SYSTEM, WHICH PROVIDES AIRPORT WEATHER CONDITIONS TO PILOTS, WAS AN OPERATIVE AT THE MONTGOMERY AIRPORT AT THE TIME OF THE ACCIDENT DUE TO AN UNRELATED POWER SURGE.
TRUCK THAT MEANT THE PILOT RELIED ON WEATHER REPORTS FROM THE MARINE CORPS WEATHER STATION AT MIRAMAR FOR MILES AWAY.
THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THE NTSB STILL NEEDS TO INVESTIGATE INCLUDING HUMAN FACTORS SUCH AS PILOT QUALIFICATIONS, TRAINING, AND FLIGHT HISTORY.
BAKER SAID THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT THE PLANES MAINTENANCE HISTORY AND IN-FLIGHT PERFORMANCE.
HERE IN THIS MILITARY HOUSING COMMUNITY, STUDENTS RETURN TO THEIR SCHOOL TODAY.
TOM SCHRADER SAID THE CRASH DESTROYED HIS CAR, BUT HE IS FEELING GRATEFUL.
>> THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT IN AND OF ITSELF IN A POSITIVE WAY IT MAKES YOU WANT TO BREAK DOWN IN TEARS JUST HOW MUCH EVERYBODY IS COMING TOGETHER AND JUST ALL THE HELP.
IT HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS.
YOU KNOW, IT IS ONE OF THOSE A LOT OF BAD AND A LOT OF GOOD IS GOING ON.
>> Reporter: TODAY'S UPDATE FROM THE NTSB IS THE LAST THEY WILL GIVE BEFORE THE PRELIMINARY REPORT THAT IS EXPECTED TO COME OUT IN 3 TO 4 WEEKS.
THE FINAL REPORT IS EXPECTED BETWEEN ONE AND TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
>> A DAY LATER WE ARE HEARING FROM SOME OF THOSE WHO KNEW THE VICTIMS AND ONE OF THOSE WITH THE SAN DIEGO BASED MUSIC AGENT DAVE SHAPIRO.
VICTOR FLINT HAS SAID SHAPIRO WORKED CLOSELY WITH HIS SON WHO WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE BAND PIERCE THE VEIL.
HE SAID HE HELPED GUIDE HIS SON FOR 18 YEARS AND SAW THE BAND PERFORM IN NEW YORK BEFORE FLYING BACK TO SAN DIEGO.
AFTER THE CRASH HE SAID HIS SON CALLED HIM TO BREAK THE NEWS.
>> DAVE SHAPIRO IS LIKE A BROTHER TO HIM.
HE JUST BROKE DOWN AND HE WAS CRYING MOST OF THE DAY YESTERDAY.
HE KNEW THAT DAVE WAS GOING TO STICK UP FOR YOUR BAND.
HE CARED ABOUT SERIOUS MUSICIANS THAT WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT.
>> HE SAID HE SAW SHAPIRO SEVERAL TIMES HE ARE OFTEN AT A STUDIO IN SAN DIEGO AND THE TALENT AGENCY SAID TWO ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES DIED IN THE CRASH.
>>> THOUGH RARE, SAN DIEGO HAS SEEN MANY PLANE CRASHES OVER THE YEARS.
COMING UP, A LOOK BACK AT THE PAST CRASHES IN OUR REGION, AND WHY, DESPITE THAT HISTORY, AIR TRAVEL REMAINS ONE OF THE SAFEST WAYS TO TRAVEL.
>>> THAT MARINE LAYER HAS BEEN PROMINENT THESE PAST FEW NIGHTS AND TONIGHT IS NOT THAT DIFFERENT.
AS WE GET THE CLOUDS INCREASING OVERNIGHT, WE FALL BACK INTO THE MID-60s AROUND THE CITY.
OF COURSE, THE DAYS TO COME AS WE GO INTO THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND, NOT MUCH CHANGES.
I WILL HAVE THE DETAILS COMING UP AS WE LOOK OUT TO THE HOLIDAY.
>>> I.C.E.
AGENTS ARRESTED SEVERAL PEOPLE AS THEY LEFT HEARINGS AT THE SAN DIEGO IMMIGRATION COURT.
IT IS A NEW AND CONTROVERSIAL TACTIC.
GUSTAVO SO LISA SPOKE TO WITNESSES WHO SAW THE AGENT ARREST THE WRONG MAN.
>> Reporter: CELL PHONE EO SHOWS I.C.E.
AGENTS SURROUNDING A MAN IN THE HALLWAY OF A FEDERAL BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO.
IN THE BACKGROUND, YOU CAN HEAR THE MEN'S LAWYER ASKING TO SEE A WARRANT.
TRUCK THEY ARREST THE MAN WITHOUT SHOWING A WARRANT OR VERIFYING HIS IDENTITY.
>> WE WILL.
WE WILL.
TAKE A BREAK.
>> YOU ARE TAKING HIM WITHOUT A WARRANT.
>> Reporter: THE I.C.E.
AGENTS PUT THE MAN IN HANDCUFFS AND HE FALLS TO THE FLOOR STARTING TO HYPERVENTILATE.
WHEN HIS LAWYER FINALLY SEES THE WARRANT, HE POINTS OUT THAT AGENTS HAVE THE WRONG GUY.
>> THAT IS NOT MY CLIENT.
NO.
THAT IS NOT PERMANENT -- PERSON.
TRUCK THE MAN WAS LATER RELEASED.
I.C.E.
AGENTS ARRESTED AT LEAST EIGHT PEOPLE THURSDAY ACCORDING TO LAWYERS AND ADVOCATES WHO WITNESSED THE ARREST.
I.C.E.
DIDN'T RESPOND TO QUESTIONS ASKING THE AGENCY TO VERIFY THE NUMBER.
THE INCIDENT WAS PART OF A CHAOTIC SCENE THAT PLAYED OUT IN THE NARROW HALLWAYS OF THE SCHWARTZ FEDERAL BUILDING.
PREVIOUSLY, I.C.E.
WOULD NOT MAKE ARRESTS IN PLACES LIKE SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, AND COURTROOMS.
BUT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP ELIMINATED THOSE RESTRICTIONS IN JANUARY.
SIMILAR COURTROOM ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS HAVE HAPPENED RECENTLY IN NEW YORK CITY, MIAMI, AND SEATTLE.
HE IS THE PATEL WITH THE ADVOCACY GROUP DETENTION RESISTANCE.
HE SAID I.C.E.
AGENTS TRIED TO PREVENT HIM FROM RECORDING SOME OF THE ARREST.
>> WE WERE THERE TO ESCORT PEOPLE OUT, LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE.
AND AS WE TRIED TO DO THAT, I.C.E.
PRETTY AGGRESSIVELY STARTED TO ARREST EVERY PERSON THAT I WAS WALKING OUT WITH.
THEY PUSHED ME OUT OF THE WAY AND REFUSED TO REALLY SHOW ANY WARRANTS.
>> Reporter: PATEL SAID THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION WAS BOTH AGGRESSIVE AND UNNECESSARY.
>> THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE LAW.
THEY ARE APPLYING FOR ASYLUM.
THEY ARE SHOWING UP TO THEIR COURT DATES.
THEY ARE GETTING FUTURE COURT DATES BECAUSE THEY ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE THEREBY LAW IN THIS COUNTRY.
>> Reporter: IMMIGRATION LAWYERS SAY THIS TACTIC MAKES OTHER IMMIGRANTS AFRAID TO SHOW UP FOR COURT IN THIS TYPE OF THEM -- INTIMIDATION PREVENTS THIS.
>> THIS IS EGREGIOUS BECAUSE PEOPLE DESERVE DUE PROCESS.
THEY DO HAVE RIGHTS AND THEY DESERVE TO BE HEARD IN A COURTROOM.
THEY CAME HERE WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY WOULD BE HEARD BY A JUDGE.
SO TO BE HEARD BY A JUDGE AND THEN WALK OUT AND GET DETAINED, IT IS NOT RIGHT.
>> Reporter: DESPITE THE FEAR, HE SAID IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO STILL SHOW UP TO IMMIGRATION COURT BECAUSE NOT SHOWING UP COULD RESULT IN A DEPORTATION ORDER.
SHE SAID ALL IMMIGRANTS WITHOUT LEGAL STATUS SHOULD HAVE A SAFETY PLAN OF WHAT TO DO IF THEY ARE EVER ARRESTED.
>> IF YOU ARE DETAINED OR YOU HAVE CHILDREN, HAVE SOMEBODY YOU KNOW THAT COULD TAKE CARE OF YOUR CHILDREN.
IF YOU HAVE BILLS TO PAY, HAVE SOMEBODY HELP YOU PAY THOSE BILLS.
HAVE PHONE NUMBERS YOUR KIDS CAN CALL IF YOU ARE DETAINED AND YOU DON'T COME BACK.
>> Reporter: ADVOCATE SAY AGENTS RETURNED TO THE COURTHOUSE FRIDAY MORNING AND ARRESTED TWO PEOPLE.
KPBS NEWS.
>>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS ESCALATING ITS SHOWDOWN WITH HARVARD UNIVERSITY.
TODAY, A FEDERAL JUDGE TEMPORARILY HALTED A BAN ON HARVARD'S ABILITY TO ENROLL INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS AFTER THE UNIVERSITY FILED A LAWSUIT.
MICHAEL YOSHIDA HAS THE STORY.
>> Reporter: A FEDERAL JUDGE SIDING WITH HARVARD TEMPORARILY HALTING A BAN ON THE SCHOOL'S ABILITY TO ENROLL INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS.
>> THIS IS EXTORTION.
IT IS A VENDETTA USING ALL POWERS OF THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE OF A POLITICAL ARGUMENT WITH HARVARD.
>> Reporter: ON THURSDAY, HOMELAND SECURITY KRISTI NOEM REMOVED THE UNIVERSITY STUDENT AND EXCHANGE VISITOR SYNDICATION THING HARVARD WE USED TO TURN OVER CONDUCT RECORDS AS REQUESTED LAST MONTH.
>> HARVARD BROUGHT THESE CONSEQUENCES UPON THEMSELVES.
TOOK MORE THAN ONE QUARTER STUDENTS ARE BEING AFFECTED.
>> WE ARE BEING USED IN A BATTLE BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND HARBORED.
IT FEELS, HONESTLY, VERY DEHUMANIZING.
>> Reporter: TRUMP AND UNIVERSITY OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN LOCKED IN CONFLICT FOR MONTHS BATTLING OVER FEDERAL RESEARCH FUNDING AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL TEXT EXEMPT STATUS AND THEY ARE DEMANDING CHANGES IN ADMISSIONS AND PROGRAMMING TO ROOT OUT ANTI-SEMITISM AND ELIMINATING WHAT IT CALLS RACIST DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION PRACTICES.
>> HARVARD WILL HAVE TO CHANGE ITS WAYS.
>> Reporter: HARVARD HAS REPLIED AND WENT ALONG WITH SOME REQUESTS BUT IT IS STILL FIERCELY DEFENDING ITS ACADEMIC INDEPENDENCE CALLING THIS LATEST ACT BY THE ADMINISTRATION A CLEAR RETALIATION FOR HARVARD'S EXERCISING ITS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO REJECT THE GOVERNMENT'S DEMAND TO CONTROL HARVARD'S GOVERNANCE, CURRICULUM, AND THE IDEOLOGY OF ITS FACULTY AND STUDENTS.
KPBS NEWS.
>>> ON MEMORIAL DAY, AMERICANS AND THE SACRIFICE OF SERVICE MEMBERS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
BUT FOR THOSE WHOSE HEROISM AND THE DECADES AGO AND OVERSEAS, THERE IS A PUSH TO BRING THEIR STORIES CLOSER TO HOME.
WE HAVE THAT STORY.
>> I AM WALKING TOWARDS THE GRAVE OF ELLEN AINSWORTH BURIED HERE IN PLOT C. >> Reporter: THE FINAL RESTING PLACE OF A U.S. ARMY SECOND LIEUTENANT ELLEN AINSWORTH IS FAR FROM HER HOME OF WISCONSIN BUT THE WORLD WAR II ARMY NURSE BRINGS VISITORS TO THE CEMETERY.
>> AS WE TAKE THIS SAND AND RUB THIS ACROSS HER NAME, HER FAMILY MEMBER FOR THEM, IT CREATES HIS PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL CONNECTION.
>> Reporter: SICILY ROME AMERICAN CEMETERY IS ONE OF THOSE ADMINISTERED BY THE AMERICAN BATTLE MONUMENTS COMMISSION WHICH MAINTAINS MONUMENTS TO MORE THAN 200,000 OF THE FALLEN HEROES OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES INCLUDING SITES LIKE PARIS AND NORMANDY.
>> THEY ARE POWERFUL SITES TO VISIT AND HONOR THE DEAD OF WORLD WAR I AND WORLD WAR II.
HOWEVER, THE AUDIENCE IS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
MANY AMERICANS WILL NEVER GET THE CHANCE TO PHYSICALLY JOURNEY TO ONE OF OUR CEMETERIES.
>> THE MONUMENTS COMMISSION HAS PARTNERED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS TO BRING STORIES OF THE SERVICE MEMBERS CLOSER TO HOME USING THE VA'S DIGITAL VETERANS LEGACY MEMORIAL.
>> THESE AMERICAN HEROES DESERVE TO BE REMEMBERED AND THEIR STORY TO BE TOLD JUST AS ANY OTHER VETERAN OR SERVICEMEMBER.
>> Reporter: LAUNCHED IN 2019, THE VA PROGRAM OFFICER SAID THE DIGITAL DATABASE IS INTENDED TO MAKE THE STORIES OF EVERY U.S.
BETTER AND MORE INTERACTIVE, VIVID AND MORE ACCESSIBLE.
>> WE WANTED TO TAKE THE CEMETERY EXPERIENCE BEYOND THE CONFINES OF A GATE OR CEMETERY WALL.
>> Reporter: WITH THE DATA THEY HAVE CREATED ONLINE MEMORIAL PAGES FOR MORE THAN 10 MILLION U.S. SERVICE MEMBERS AND VA AND VA GRANT FUNDED CEMETERIES.
THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE CEMETERIES LIKE ARLINGTON AND OTHER SITES LIKE THOSE ABROAD.
FAMILY MEMBERS, FRIENDS AND THE PUBLIC CAN SUBMIT PHOTOS AND MEMENTOS TO POPULATE THE PAGE AND SHARE A VETERAN'S STORY LIKE AINSWORTH THAT ENDED IN ITALY IN 1944 AND WHILE HER HOSPITAL WAS UNDER ATTACK, SHE MOVED HER PATIENTS FROM SAFETY AND DIED DAYS LATER.
>> Reporter: HERE THEY SAY STILL IT IS INSPIRING.
>> THE IDEA OF FIGHTING UNTIL THE VERY END, BE UP.
>> Reporter: HONORED BY GENERATIONS TO COME.
>>> AS WE CONTINUE OUR COVERAGE OF THE PLANE CRASH, A FAMILY WHOSE HOME WAS DAMAGED RETURN FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY.
THEY AND THEIR KIDS AND PETS ALL NARROWLY ESCAPED.
THEY TOLD KG TV THE CREDIT GOES TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO SPRING INTO ACTION AFTER THE PLANE SMASHED INTO THEIR LIVING ROOM.
NOW, THEY START OVER.
>> WE CALLED THE INSURANCE ADJUSTER AND WE SET A PLANE CRASHED INTO BOTH OUR CARS AND THEY ARE LIKE IT ISN'T SOMETHING YOU HERE EVERY DAY.
IT IS HARD TO WORK THROUGH IT.
IT REALIZES THAT YOU ARE STARTING FROM GROUND ZERO AND KEEP TRACK EVERYTHING HAVE TO DO AND REALIZE THIS IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT PROCESS.
>> THE FAMILY AT THE MILITARY HAS BEEN HELPING TO SUPPORT THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
>> PLANE CRASHES ARE EXCEEDINGLY RARE, BUT SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE SAN DIEGO SEES MORE THAN ITS FAIR SHARE.
OUR TRAM MAI MILITARY REPORTER SAID DESPITE APPEARANCES, FLYING REMAINS AMONG ONE OF THE SAFEST WAYS TO TRAVEL.
TOOK THE IS A CLICHE IN THE NEWS INDUSTRY, THEY DON'T WRITE ABOUT THE PLANES THAT LAND.
THEY SAY THEY ARE NEWS IN PART BECAUSE THEY ARE RARE EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T FEEL THAT WAY.
IN MANY WAYS THE HISTORY OF SAN DIEGO IS TIGHT IN TO THE HISTORY OF AVIATION.
>> OUR HISTORY OF COURSE IN AVIATION IS PHENOMENALLY LONG.
>> Reporter: HE IS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE SAN DIEGO AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM AND SAID MANNED FLIGHT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN SAN DIEGO SINCE 1911 AND THOUGH SAN DIEGO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS ONLY ONE RUNWAY, AVIATION THRIVES HERE.
>> WE HAVE A NUMBER OF AIRPORT AND WE HAVE KELLY-MOORE, BROWNFIELD DOWN SOUTH, AND WE HAVE MONTGOMERY FIELD.
WE HAVE GILLESPIE.
WE EVEN HAVE AN AIRFIELD IN RAMONA.
>> Reporter: ADD TO THE MIX NEEDED AIRFIELDS IN IMPERIAL BEACH AND CORONADO AS LONG AS THOSE AT CAMP PENDLETON IN MIRAMAR, IT MAKES FOR SOME PRETTY BUSY SKIES.
>> IT IS BUSY, BUT IT IS NOT INTOLERABLE.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL.
THE AIRSPACE IS WELL CONTROLLED.
THE SKIES ARE BUSY, BUT THE SKIES ARE ALSO VERY VERY SAFE.
>> Reporter: OF COURSE, ACCIDENTS DO HAPPEN.
SEVERAL AMONG THEM IS THE PSA AIR DISASTER OF 1978 AND A BOEING 77 COLLIDED IN MIDAIR AND CRASHED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DESTROYING OR DAMAGING 22 HOMES.
135 PEOPLE ON BOARD THE BOEING WERE KILLED AS WERE BOTH CESSNA PILOTS AND SEVEN PEOPLE ON THE GROUND.
IN 2008, AND F-18 HORNET TAKING AN EMERGENCY LANDING AT MIRAMAR CRASHED INTO HOMES THAT UNIVERSITY CITY KILLING FOUR.
HE SAID AIR TRAVEL IN THE UNITED STATES AND OVER SAN DIEGO IS SAFE.
>> YOU ARE MORE LIABLE TO BE IN AN ACCIDENT IN A CAR AND GET HURT OR KILLED THEN YOU ARE IN AN AIRPLANE CUT ANY AIRPLANE.
EVERY AIR ACCIDENT GETS A TON OF MEDIA AND IT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS.
>> Reporter: IT IS SAFE BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEMS IN PLACE FROM AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL THE MAINTENANCE TO TRAINING.
>> CERTAINLY, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF TRAINING FOR THOSE WHO FLY THE AIRPLANES AND THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS.
AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN THE STANDARDS VERY VERY HIGH.
>>> WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU.
LATE THIS AFTERNOON WE DID GET NEW DETAILS ON THE VICTIMS AND THURSDAY MORNINGS PLANE CRASH COMING FROM A SPOKESPERSON FROM THE SOUND GROUP COFOUNDED BY DAVE SCHAPIRO.
THE SPOKESPERSON NAMES TWO OTHER EMPLOYEES ON THE PLANE WITH SCHAPIRO, EMMA HOOK, 25 AND KENDALL FORTNER, 24.
FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS TELL US THAT BOTH ALONG WITH SCHAPIRO ARE AMONG THE SIX TOTAL VICTIMS.
AS WE HEARD EARLIER, THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING, AND WE ARE WAITING FOR MORE IDENTIFICATIONS TO BE ANNOUNCED.
>> WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THOSE STORIES ON THE PLANE CRASH.
YOU CAN FIND THOSE ON KPBS.ORG.
THAT IS ALSO WHERE WE WILL POST UPDATES AS THEY ARE ANNOUNCED BY INVESTIGATORS.
>>> WE CERTAINLY HAD A GOOD MARINE LAYER EACH NIGHT THE PAST FEW NIGHTS OF COURSE.
NOW, AS WE HEAD INTO THE WEEKEND, WE WON'T SEE MUCH CHANGE IN THAT.
BUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO STILL BREAK OUT WITH SOME SUNSHINE DURING THE DAY.
AND ONE DAY MAY BE A LITTLE BIT WARMER THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS.
A COOL SATURDAY FOR US AS WE START OUT THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND.
THE MARINE LAYER IS STAYING STRONG.
I THOUGHT IT COULD GET WEAKER A LITTLE BIT GOING SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY BUT NOT REALLY THE CASE.
WE DO EXPECT THAT TO STAY CONTINUOUS THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND AND WARMER TOWARD THE END OF NEXT WEEK, AT LEAST THAT IS THE REAL NOTABLE CHANGE IN TEMPERATURES.
AS WE GO THROUGH THE AREA TONIGHT, 63 IS THE LOW AND 57 IN MOUNT LAGUNA COMING IN AT 51 AND CHULA VISTA 61 FOR YOUR LOW THERE.
AS WE HEAD THROUGH SATURDAY, REALLY NO CHANGE.
ALL THE STORMY WEATHER HAS BEEN FOCUSED TOWARD THE HIGH PLAINS IN THE UNITED STATES.
SO IT IS KEPT THE SOUTHWEST LARGELY DRY.
WE HAD SOME INFLUXES OF CLOUDS CERTAINLY BUT NO CHANGE IN THE PRECIPITATION PATTERN AND NOT LIKELY TO SEE THAT THROUGH THE REST OF THE HOLIDAY.
SO AS YOU DO LOOK OUT FOR TOMORROW, STILL BRIGHT AND STILL DRY FOR US THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO SHAKE SOME OF THE MORNING CLOUDS WHICH WILL BE PROMINENT ESPECIALLY TOWARD THE COAST.
THEY WILL LINGER A LITTLE LONGER THERE.
THE CITY GOES TO 68 TOMORROW AND WE HAD TO 75 IN RAMONA AND WITH MORE SUNSHINE WE COULD GO BACK INTO THE LOWER 90s.
AGAIN, SATURDAY TOMORROW THE COOLER DAY SET UP FOR US IN MOST LOCATIONS, BUT FOR THE COAST REALLY NOT MUCH CHANGE THERE MOST OF THE WEEKEND AS WE HOLD ONTO THE UPPER 60s AND LOWER 70s EVEN EARLY IN THE NEXT WEEK.
WE WILL SEE TOO MUCH OF A CHANGE BE ON THE HOLIDAY ITSELF.
IF YOU WORK YOUR WAY INLAND, YOU CAN SEE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY HOLDING STUDY IN THE 70s.
WE DON'T CHANGE TOO MUCH FOR THE HOLIDAY.
LOOKS LIKE MAYBE THE CEREMONY AND SERVICES YOU WILL BE ATTENDING, WE WILL BE DRY FOR THAT AND FOR MOUNTAIN LOCATIONS.
A COOLER DAY NOTED SATURDAY.
WE GO BACK INTO THE 60s GOING INTO MEMORIAL DAY ITSELF.
WE WILL GO BACK INTO THE MID- 90s FOR MEMORIAL DAY WITH DESERT COMMUNITIES IN THE LOWER 90s SATURDAY.
FOR KPBS NEWS, REPORTING.
>>> WHEN YOU THINK OF A GOURD , DO YOU THINK OF WASHER PUMPKIN?
HOW ABOUT A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT COST STORAGE VESSEL OR EVEN HANDMADE ART?
WE TOOK A TRIP TO THE WELBORN GOURD FARM AND LEARN HOW THE NEW OWNERS HONOR THE CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT FRUIT, THAT IS, HARD SHELLED GOURD.
♪ >> Reporter: YOU CAN HEAR THERE IS A GOURD FARM BUT ANOTHER THING TO VISIT IT.
IT JUST BLOWS YOUR MIND.
IT REALLY JUST HAS AN ENERGY AND OF ITSELF.
MY NAME IS JESSICA JOHNSON AND THIS COVERS ALL UNIQUE PLACES THROUGHOUT ALL OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND THE GOURD FARM IS LOCATED IN AN AREA THAT IS PART OF FALLBROOK BUT IT'S LIKE ANYWHERE ELSE THAT I HAVE EVER BEEN TO IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
>> WE JUMPED INTO THE DEEP END.
>> WE BECAME GOURD FARMERS.
>> WE BECAME GOURD FARMERS.
>> MY NAME IS JAMIE WEBER.
>> I AM DANIEL MOLE AND WE OWN WELBORN GOURD FARM.
>> WE ARE THE LARGEST GOURD FARM IN THE WORLD WITH OVER 300,000 EACH YEAR.
A BIG PART OF THAT IS DUE TO THE BEAUTIFUL CLIMATE AND OUR SOIL CONDITIONS.
>> CORDS ARE QUITE ANCIENT AND PEOPLE USE THEM ACROSS MANY CULTURES AROUND THE WORLD AND SOME ARE USED FOR MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS AND SOME ARE USED FOR STORING GRAINS OR LIQUIDS AND SOME ARE USED FOR DECORATING.
AND CEREMONIAL PURPOSES.
A LOT OF OUR GOURDS WIND UP IN HAWAII.
SO THERE WAS A STRONG CONNECTION WITH THIS FARM AND THE HULA COMMUNITY IN HAWAII.
SO THEY COME AND MAKE THINGS OUT OF THEM.
>> THE ART COMMUNITY IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.
YOU CAN DO ANY ART MEDIUM ON A GOURD.
YOU CAN BURN, CUT, WE'VE AND IT IS ALMOST AN UNLIMITED CANVAS FOR ART.
>> YOU SEE ALL DIFFERENT SIZES AND THESE LOOK LIKE THE SMALLEST ONES.
THEY LOOK LIKE MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS OR BABY RATTLES.
>> NATURE ALWAYS PROVIDES.
>> I KNOW THE NATIVE AMERICANS USED THEM FOR RATTLES OR INSTRUMENTS AND JEWELRY.
IN HAWAII, USE THEM FOR DRUMS AND IN PERU, WHICH I KNOW WE EVEN DO THAT HERE BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS THAT DO IT, BUT THEY DRINK OUT OF IT.
I WAS TOLD AT RENAISSANCE FESTIVALS THEY SOMETIMES USE THEM AS WATER BOTTLES, WHICH YOU COULD SEE HOW IT COULD TOTALLY BE USED AS ONE AND I WANT ONE FOR A WATER BOTTLE NOW.
>> ACTUALLY IN THE STORE I SAW ONE BEING USED AS A SOAP DISPENSER.
>> I GOT ONE.
I GOT ONE ALREADY.
SO ALL THEY DID WAS CUT A LITTLE HOLE OUT RIGHT IN THE CENTER AND ITS HOUSE FOR A BIRD.
>> IT IS 120 ACRES.
WE HAVE OUR MINIATURE ANIMAL BARN IN BACK THAT PEOPLE LOVE TO ENGAGE WITH.
WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL NEW ORGANIC VEGETABLE GARDEN.
AND WE HAVE FOUR SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON THE PROPERTY THAT IF YOU WANT TO STAY ON THE FARM AND SEE WHAT IT IS LIKE.
>> BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS THRIVING GARDEN WAS A PARKING LOT A YEAR AGO.
TODAY, THEY HAVE THE MAN BEHIND ALL OF THIS, ANDREW BEATTY, A WORLD RENOWNED FARMER.
>> IT IS ALL ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY.
THIS IS MY FIRST GOURD FARM .
>> DO YOU ENJOY THE CHALLENGE OF WORKING WITH THEM?
>> FOR SURE.
YOU HAVE TO BE CHALLENGED.
THAT WAS THE MAIN DESIGN POINT WAS OH, HOW DO WE RESPECT THE HISTORY OF THIS GOURD FARM AND BRING THAT INTO THIS NEW LIGHT.
>> SO YOU ARE MODERNIZING AN ANCIENT WAY OF FARMING A GOURD?
>> EXACTLY THROUGH THE USE OF DYNAMIC FARMING PRACTICES.
>> WE ARE GOING TO SEE THE ANIMALS NOW.
THIS IS THE PART I WAS MOST EXCITED ABOUT.
>> THIS IS A DONKEY.
AND TWO DONKEYS.
AND PONIES, A PIG.
GOATS.
AND THERE ARE EVEN SOME KITTENS HIDING INSIDE.
>> THIS CHICKEN LOVES LOVE.
>> YOU HAVE THE FRIENDLIEST CHICKEN ON EARTH, JESSICA.
>> I THINK ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING THINGS IT WAS HOMESTEADED IN 1880.
AND IT WAS RUN BY REALLY ONE FAMILY.
SO UNTIL 2024.
AND THE GUERNSEY FAMILY WAS NEXT TO THE DAY FAMILY AND THEY HAVE A CEMETERY HERE AND EVERYBODY WAS OPERATED THIS FARM IS BURIED HERE AND IT'S A UNIQUE PIECE OF HISTORY.
>> THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD USUALLY FIND AT A FARM BUT SOMETHING YOU WOULD FIND.
TELL US ABOUT THIS.
>> THIS IS THE GRAVEYARD FOR THE FAMILY WHO WERE THE ORIGINAL FARM OWNERS OF THIS LAND AND WE DO HAVE A TON OF FAMILY MEMBERS BURIED HERE.
YOU CAN JUST IMAGINE HOW THEY MUST HAVE LOVINGLY TENDED TO THIS LAND AND FALLEN IN LOVE WITH IT TO WANT TO BE BURIED THERE.
>> WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE DATES?
>> I SEE 1888 OR 1889.
SO THIS EXPANSIVE FIELD IS ACTUALLY WHERE THE GOURDS GROW AND THEY ARE PULLED BEFORE THE FIRST FROST AND THEY LET HIM SLOWLY DRY WHICH IS CRAZY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAND TURNED THEM THROUGHOUT EACH WEEK OR HOWEVER LONG SO THE DON'T GROW MOLD.
>> SO THE ACTUALLY TURN ALL OF THESE BY HAND?
MANUAL LABOR TO MAKE SURE THIS IS HAPPENING?
>> YES.
>> JESSICA, WE WILL HELP THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
LET'S TURN A FEW OF THESE.
THEY ARE STILL HEAVY.
THEY ARE NOT REALLY DRY.
YOU CAN TELL.
A BIG DIFFERENCE.
ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE DONE OUR WORK.
MAYBE ONE MORE.
THIS ONE MAY BE READY.
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